/v/ - Video Games

>implying there is any reason at all to have VR other than porn and 2D girlfriend simulators

Crescendo and One Room fulfills the latter - at least enough to justify a cheap 20$ headset - so now we can keep the technology in the cellar until we get deep AI learning.

VR headsets are for queers. Call me when we have actual holodecks.

>>16727033

>VR

>2D

The most popular VR games are all about open ended motion though?

The fuck are you on about?

>>16727168

Fine. 3D 2D girlfriends.

>>16726871

Teleportation solved motion sickness years ago. Next problem.

>>16726871

Casuals are the ones that buy the games you dumbass fuck. Deal with it.

In addition to that, not everyone who uses VR has a Vive to track motion of your fat ass across the room, so it makes games more accessible for users without one to have a game where you're stationary. How stupid can someone be?

>>16727672

>Teleportation solved motion sickness years ago.

Teleportation IS the problem.

>>16727801

>Necessity

Lol, retard. Thumb sticks exist.

Only casuals care about VR in the first place.

>>16726871

You made this thread a few days ago. Why did you repeat it?

>>16727033

There will never be AI deep learning.

==WHERE THE FUCK IS RESIDENT EVIL 7 VR ON PC CAPCOM? WHAT YHE FUCK?

People are acclimating

>>16730286

It was announced even before it was released that it would be PSVR exclusive for a year, then Sony renewed that license. I don't know for how long though. Great redpost though anon

>>16730267

Lol, no. Play Doom 1 in be and tell me it isn’t fun as fuck.

>>16732978

Or just don’t be a faggot. Motion sickness is only experienced by casuals who aren’t used to video games. I just ran around in hl1 without any issues.

>>16727801

>being a retarded poorfag

Regular locomotion doesn't require a full room to move around in. Quite the contrary. You only need enough room to move your arms because you use your controller to do the rest. Teleportation is what requires a full room because you'll need to move your body for finer movements and turning around.

>>16732981

Motion sickness wasn't invented by video games, nigger. It's a natural physiological response. You're welcome to disagree, though, as, being retarded isn't illegal.

>>16732978

It's not really an inherent problem of VR if most people don't experience it. I can do anything in VR and never get motion sickness, and my HMD doesn't even run at 60Hz.

>>16733029

>Motion sickness wasn't invented by video games,

You're a real genius. He's saying video games are a source of motion sickness. Anyone who's used to motion sickness have fewer/no motion sickness symptoms.

>>16733033

This is similar to the 3D glasses issue. 3D movies of the 80s and 90s were objectively better than they are today. The reason is because some people got headaches from wearing 3D glasses. So the solution was to tone down 3D to the point of there being no reason what so ever to even watching 3D movies. This is exactly what happened today with VR. A few faggots got motion sickness so now VR can't be any fun,.

>>16733081

>3D movies of the 80s and 90s were objectively better than they are today

I don't believe you.

Weak men make hard times

>>16733287

I'm sure a bunch of faggots complaining about video game peripherals and software are the hard men we need to fix the world.

<BOO HOO MY HEAD HURTSY HURT BECAUSE I COULDNT BE FUCKING BOTHERED TO CARE FOR MY BODY AND READ THE PACKAGING, I FEEL MISERABLE SO EVERYONE ELSE MUST FEEL MISERABLE TOO

<HAHA THERE GOES ALL YOUR FUN

this makes me SO fucking angry EVERY SINGLE TIME IT HAPPENS, AND IT HAPPENED TOO MANY FUCKING TIMES

>>16733110

It's definitely true that earlier movies that used polarized 3D, like Micheal Jackson's Captain EO, did a LOT more with the 3D technology than the majority of movies released today. Stuff like the evil queen constantly reaching out of the screen with her giant fingernails, or the cute little mascot flying out of the screen and hovering right in front of the viewer. You never see things like that in movies today.

Though I think that's less to do with people getting headaches, and more to do with studios realizing they can just shoot a 2D movie, get it cheaply converted to 3D, and charge everyone an extra $5 per ticket.

>>16733606

superhot is alot of fun

>>16726871

>Why do devs making content for a tiny niche audience designing the game to maximize the number of people that can play it

It is a mystery

>>>/v/16732975

You're seriously trying to argue that you aren't a newfaggot while spamming cuckchan threads with iPhone filenames, really?

>>16727063

this

>op wants to use overpriced shit vr tech

>calls others casuals

There are many other ways to prevent VR motion sickness. If I recall, it's darkening the edges and corners of the screen (a sort of flashlight effect) since stuff entering the peripheral vision is what does it for some people. Other methods are keeping the line of horizon as stable as possible and making movement analogue instead of a binary speed. It's why Resident Evil 7 rarely made anyone motion sick but Minecraft does.

You can blame Gabe Newell instead, it's his insistence on teleportation that's responsible, most likely and it especially will be if HLVR has Teleportation (assuming it comes out at all).

>>16733025

Most people don't have an empty square room with 10 feet of space unless it's a bedroom. It's not about being poor, it's about the ridiculous limitations of the technology and how they don't translate to the average modern home, unless you live in a rich city, which most don't because there's loads of homeless, shit on the streets, and degenerating society in general. If you actually want to WALK in VR, you need a big room. Teleportation requires a swivel chair, you fucking dumbass.

>>16733575

If a chunk of the people out there can't even play on your technology, that's a chunk you're not going to make bucks off of, and VR is already a fucking money sink. Get real.

This whole thing reminds me of when Japan got Spyro and they complained about motion sickness so they fucked up the camera so bad that the third game never even got released over there.

>OP fell for the VR meme

Look at him and laugh

>>16726871

>teleport around like a faggot

Is teleporting something that faggots regularly do these days?

>>16734000 (checked)

>teleports behind you

>unzips dick

Nothing personnel, kid.

>>16733856

VR isn't casual. Playing shitty waggle games is, but playing Metroid Prime or Doom in VR is far from casual.

>>16733892

There was also evidence that having a fake nose also helps prevent sickness. The thing is, developers are too lazy to try these tricks and instead insist on just making shitty waggle games.

>>16733923

He's talking about using the analog stick to move.

>>16733923

> It's not about being poor,

Unless you like put clutter in every square inch of your property, either you're too poor or too stupid to get a reasonably priced house. You can get a decent 3 bedroom in Ohio for $40k, you fucking nigger. Again, unless you like to live cluttering up every square inch of free space, you're full of shit. 10 sqft is the size of 2 manlets.

>If you actually want to WALK in VR, you need a big room. Teleportation requires a swivel chair, you fucking dumbass.

Teleportation typical requires walking (e.g. The Lab) because of limitations placed on teleportation. Where as full locomotion can be done in a swivel chair because if you aren't close enough to something, you can just move your analog stick forward a bit. Have you ever even played VR, or is your crackhouse too small?

>>16734176

>just like move somewhere else

Don't call people a dumb nigger while you suggest that they just sell everything they have, quit their job, and move to a completely different state just because property is a little cheaper. You can buy an entire city block in detroit for a few hundred dollars, but that doesn't magically make it a great place to live.

>>16726871

Cool post from 2017, even poorfags on playstation demand free locomotion and smooth turning in every game

>>16733926

Shut the fuck up kike, start thinking terms outside of "shekels" and "consumers" schlomo

go get gassed you massive jew

>>16734210

I didn't tell anyone to do anything, you projecting mongoloid. I made the point that if you don't have 10sqft of free it's because you're poor, retarded, or are a hoarder. For anyone else, having 10sqft of free space is far from outrageous. Developers shouldn't have to account for you being broke.

>You can buy an entire city block in detroit for a few hundred dollars,

Then you shouldn't have issues with having 10sqft of free space.

>>16734214

>Demand

Yet very few games support it.

Still no VR attack helicopter game?

I dont know why they haven't revived mecha games in VR. Its perfect, you just sit in a mecha.

>>16735294

>>16735294

Hw did I fuck that up.

I just want my porn.

>>16735316

It's a critical stage in the development of a better state of digital reality simulation. This life sucks, so I'm gung ho for the hyperweb. Just stuck waiting here for the next 15-20 years until it shows up, listening to curmudgeons whine about how it's "never gonna be good so just give up"

>>16735882

Didn't say it was good now, said it was a required step. Heard of anyone test flying biplanes recently? No, but it sure helped at the time.

>>16735895

> it was a required step

there's no need for 'shitty VR step'

>>16735923

there's a need for every step moron. How do get to burger king? a bunch of steps. Can't skip those. Can't skip "shit tier" before hitting "god tier".

>>16732981

>Motion sickness is only experienced by casuals who aren’t used to video games.

"Casuals" play massive hours (check peoples stats in fotnite or lol)

"standart" video-games have visual movement compleatly disconnected from inner input (zero inner ear perception).

VR jumps between 2 modes.

1. When head movement (looking around leaning etc) and its inner ear perception are connected and properly accompanied by video

2. When player moves around by controller and this movement doesn't produce any inner ear stimulus (standard gaming mode).

Problem is VR jumps between these modes there is no consistency and player can't become accustomed to stimulus.

Or You can kill mode 2 completely what developers do with full room movement and teleports.

The ones that don't get sick from taping screens on their eyes have atrophied motor skills from being shut-ins that rarely move their bodies. Have fun feeling like a hurdcore gaymer from your highly toned ability of being a spastic klutz.

>>16734682

Shit dude, why has no one made a new Steel Battalion-esque game in VR that would be pretty sweet.

>>16726871

>He fell for the VR meme

>>16733323

The fact that even they are complaining about weaker men shows just how fucked we really are.

>>16733926

>we can't make money off this tiny proportion who likely aren't as interested anyway

>let's make the whole product worse so now NOBODY wants it!

>>16734039

>There was also evidence that having a fake nose also helps prevent sickness.

It's because the people who complain about motion sickness are sickly inbred jews who have such giant noses that they are constantly looking at them in front of their face.

>>16735316

This. Until you can simulate a sense of touch (beyond having a fucking controller vibrate) then it's nothing but a tv taped to your face. If I can't touch my waifu, then what's the point?

>>16736414

Nowhere did I say it was a lie. I said that if you have it you're a sickly untermenschen, just like jews.

>He fell for the VR gimmick

>>16735882

No wish fulfilment is worth letting somebody fuck with your brain.

>casuals ruined VR

Do you honestly thing if AAA devs could make AAA game that worked well on VR they wouldn't do it? Every corporate wanted VR to succeed and yet in it's current state it failed.

It's not because of casuals. It's because of hardware limitations and poor prototype designs. You're damn sure it's not the last we heard of VR - but it has to evolve and catch up with the demands of customers. Right now VR is no more than shitty novelty gimmick.

>>16736528

casuals are pushing for whatever is fed to them, just plaster some capeshit or star wars and you get army of soy faggots behind your shit

>>16736741

sad

>>16736744

mad

>>16736753

bad

>>16726871

>>16732978

I watched a serious sam VR vid ages ago and was wondering why the players teleported all over the map. So this is why they do this. Fucking normal fags ruining everything.

>>16736893

serious sam VR has locomotion

>>16736913

if a vr game has locomotion it means you are able to move around using your thumbstick / touchpad

>>16736519

>Do you honestly thing if AAA devs could make AAA game that worked well on VR they wouldn't do it

>MUH AAA

they can easily, but there's no money in it yet. ffs AAA flop more often than not even on pancake screens, what do you think will happen on a niche fragmented market?

<t's because of hardware limitations and poor prototype designs.

>what is psvr

>>16735294

My question for this is can you hold her head under the water and drown her?

>>16736925

As far as I know you have both, you can move around using your controller or teleport around.

>>16736936

You posted this before

>>16735316

>Every VR game pales in comparison to a standard game played with a controller or keyboard.

Play standard games in VR

>>16735294

>Putting her hair with a bar of soap

What the fuck?