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I keep seeing people claiming 4.1 had a better story but I really don't see how.

5 has a much better portrayal of the gradual collapse of society and the Grim Reaper and Spriggan banter was all gold, and getting to punch god in the face was a lot more interesting than "lol you broke the big ship, guess we give up now". I definitely miss Ohara though.

I knocked off an ayy helmet and there is something terrifying about them making a beeline to you with those beady little eyes. I kinda miss hectors slow lumber and sometimes fast toward you being an unthinking killing machine. But the frogs and cosmonauts have way more personality.

>join room with no passcode

>get booted because "the slot is saved for a friend"

Why are people so retarded?

>>16713624

Because they are retarded.

>>16713600

>"lol you broke the big ship, guess we give up now"

I thought you broke the big ship and everything kept going, you got a victory screen but it's implied that that's the last victory humanity ever achieves. Although EDF 5 implies the same thing it's not quite as gut wrenching since I doubt the aliens can pump out another god.

>>16713600

The progression in 5 really felt all over the place story wise, 4.1 had a great buildup to the end with things constantly getting more desperate, and in 5 I couldn't help but feel some of the missions were out of order, hell there were even civilians running around in the 90's missions, at that point there should not be civvies around because that implies people are not already hiding or fighting. The section in 5 where they mentioned the submarines getting taken out was nowhere near as good at the time in 4.1 where Whale was in danger, because I actually cared about whale, the subs never really got mentioned after their introduction. I also hated the reapers and spriggans, but I think it's just because of their plot armor, it they were willing to actually kill off those squads it would have helped the tone tremendously.

>>16713691

5 goes in more in depth with how people would react and what would happen to the world. But 4.1 in my opinion really pulls off the slow boil that extinguishes humanity better.

>>16713691

Subtlety in story telling is a art, I preferred EDF 4.1s storytelling where you subtly realize there are no civilians left and that you're running out of men and resources. As opposed to EDF 5 where they're constantly telling you and updating you on the status of things, and worse, contradicting themselves.

>>16713764

>that one bitter retard that can't discuss B-movies

>>16713764

Fuck off the "story" and campy writing is one of the best parts.

If you only enjoy EDF ONLY for the shooty shooty bang bang and nothing else about it I feel bad for you.

>>16713691

the story feels like its all over the place, hell it even has a time skip.

>>16713799

I'll make one after this mission

>>16713614

>>16713620

Ayys of both types are tanky for when they're introduced and teach you how to maximize firepower to kill them, that and the fact that they have noises when their armor pops off and scream when they die make them very satisfying to kill.

>>16714016

>golden ant

That reminds me, when are the mission packs out?

>missions with only flying enemies as AR

>missions with the nigger mothership blocking air strikes

>teleport ships flying too high

God this is such misery, I fucking hate limpet guns

>>16713600

5 definitely does neat things with the recurring squads, especially when you keep seeming to run into sarge and his rangers in the worst possible situations. Also, the aliens seemingly having more purpose to their invasion besides "lol, let's invade Earth" was cool. However, 4/4.1 definitely did the ramp up of scale and desperation better. What was particularly significant was the fact that it was an EDF that had fought off the aliens before, and thus developed tech specifically for fighting them off again. You kill a mothership, think things are going to go well, then surprise, fuckers, the Earth Eaters start coming down. And, unlike "God", they feel like this unfathomly large, unstoppable threat. How the fuck do you stop something like that? You understand Ohara's desperation to find a "brain", because, if it doesn't exist, there is no possibility of winning. Earth will inevitably be starved of all its sunlight and everything will die. In 5, things don't really feel impossibly desperate, because it feels like humanity could definitely win the war if the higher-ups for fucking once realized they should just point you at whatever needs killing, because you're the best goddamn weapon they have. Why worry about some hypothetical egg when they should just be aiming you at every mothership, one by one?

>>16713799

Not exactly spam but I always love using

>Let's talk about this tomorrow

every time after reviving someone

Any pirates down to start a hard lobby from mission 33-40

>>16714211

You have to play like 20 missions to get that line, do you really think a journo would play that much EDF?

>>16714211

They have to play games to know these things. EDF isn't mainstream enough for the usual suspects to give attention to it.

The further I make it into the story the more sure I am the dev team either does not themselves play or actively hates Wing Divers.

>literally can't hop shin-high curbs without jetpack

>Sniper Rifles are universally unusable because their damage has been nerfed but they still eat just as much of your dodge-juice

>Lock-On weapons nerfed to the point you have to max them out to even consider using them, and only then to change things up when bored

>Special grenades are so situational and often useless they don't even deserve a weapon slot, would be better off as a third type of equipment

>Half of your short range weapons will kill you if you try to use them at point blank range

>Including to free yourself from a bite, which are themselves random if they're instant-kills or not. Ants can just decide to never let go.

>Your only defense is mobility and dodging but almost no enemies have audio cues for their attacks so you will be snuck up on constantly by things several times your size

>The official answer to this seems to be "lol grind Armor for 48 hours" like that's not an admission of cause to be fired for incompetence

>Most enemies are just as fast as you are, and some (drones) are fucking rubber-banded to your position

>Radar is useless for the ranges at which you need to be engaging things, and actively misleading when altitude is a concern

>Drone enemies become suddenly solid when killed and will clip into you, anchoring you to the ground so you can't dodge

>The "sniper" armored aliens, DeRoy leg cannons, and Shotgun Pepes earlier on arrest your momentum on hit, essentially guaranteeing death, even mid-dodge

>Motherfucking green ants; it doesn't matter how good your weapons are, they will burn through your energy meter and you're dead

>Your weapons are ALL situational and mission briefings are barren of information if not outright lying; enjoy making scouting runs of every mission to see what it is you actually need to bring

I have been having less and less of a good time the entire way through this story because of this bullshit. The loading screen says my damage is the highest, and it's a crock of shit because I can pull out my big gun once, maybe twice, per energy bar, which I also need for basic level traversal and survival, whereas the Fencers just hit reload and fire again after darting through fire with thruster dashes interim. Every new weapon I pick up is essentially discarded instantly because they're always inferior to stuff 10 levels lower due to the "all your weapons are trash until you find it repeatedly" gimmick, like I'm playing fucking Gun Gatcha, making the one carrot-over-the-head contemptuous at best because they're useless when you first get them. There are maybe 4 weapon types I've used through the game, only peeking outside of it for extremely specific use-cases and even then usually going back to tried-and-trues like the Stardust Cannon, Dragoon Lances, and Heavy Cannon Plasma.

I am no longer having a good time.

>>16714258

Sums up my experience as well.

>>16714258

Have you tried not playing WD?

>>16714258

>Short range weapons kill you

Really? The only weapon type that can kill you at point blank is thunder weapons like the spark whip.

I've been using the thunder bow more considering they changed it from a shotgun to a focused shot

Was there any reason they didn't keep ==THE EDF DEPLOYS==?

There's nothing redeeming about the new one, and I don't see the need for it in the first place. They could have at least picked another good military song as a base.

>>16713799

In 4.1 it was "That's epic." but it's not voiced in 5 (fucking faggots).

>>16713691

EDF 4.1 does do all of that, but it's implied or shown instead of outright stated as >>16713730 points out.

>>16714258

Glad I never touched them, but that's just fucked up. There's not really any reason to go wing diver once you have 3 dashes and 3 jumps as fencer anyway, you can get on top of everything and move fast as fuck.

>>16714262

I have mixed feelings on it not being just me being salty.

>>16714266

All of the particle weapons that have a little electrical burst effect on hit actually have tiny AoEs that are completely useless against enemies but just big enough to hit you too. Give it a shot, just pick up a Stardust Cannon and aim down. Instant death. At least half of my deaths so far have been from a drone or tadpole clipping through me from behind to poke its hitbox into my gun at the exact moment I fire, auto-killing me.

>>16714265

Except it's the gameplay style I specifically got the game to play.

>>16714271

I just want to be fast, airborne, and shooting homing lasers and plasma mortars, Anon. That's all I wanted.

>>16714267

The old song makes specific reference to this being a return of the aliens. Being a reboot, it no longer made sense. But I infinitely prefer the old song as well.

>>16714211

>Did 4.1 have illegal alien/immigration jokes in the voice lines?

I don't recall there being one seeing the EDF actually calls them giant insects instead of aliens while the aliens are called ravagers.

>I'm surprised some retarded journo hasn't noticed and started screeching about the game supporting Trump.

I'm not sure they have the attention span to learn that you have to shoot the top of the pylons or the red underside of the transports ships to get past most of the mission to reach the lines

>>16714282

>Particle Weapons

My bad,forgot about those.

I somewhat enjoy WD in 5 more just because you have enough energy to attack and still maintain flight unlike in 4.1 where taking off takes 25% of your energy and leaves the rest for dodging

>>16714284

>"These problematic insectoids fire undodgeball homo-phobic orange globular projectiles while a triggering CIS male patriarchy figure shouts in the background, do not play till it addresses the current socioeconomic condition of the Turks in a more understanding fashion heres a link to my Instagram

>>16714271

It's kind of bad in a class imbalance kind of way how much better of a wing diver fencer can be when you get those jump and dash upgrades

Great CQC, great mid range, great long range, and great co-op symmetry with air raider and Wing Diver tier speed/agility with none of the downsides of needing an energy reserve.

Only weapons I've been using with WD when I'm not playing fencer or ranger is stardust cannon and thunder gun, or lightning gun and rapier.

>>16713799

"I'm disappointed" is pretty good.

>>16713691

To be fair I think 4.1 doesn't go into as much detail because in that universe there already was an alien invasion so there's less to comment on. In 5 they're dealing with it for the first time.

>>16713799

>Waaagh!

>Teehee!

>Phooey.

>What!?

>Don't be stupid!

You are using the Japanese voices, right?

>>16714258

Wing diver is a specialist class. She isn't supposed to be good at everything. You're supposed to be playing with others and your job is to nuke drop ships and collect pickups, not singlehandedly destroy hordes of enemies. Most of her damage comes in bursts for a reason. Wing Diver's snipers are not meant to be used when you don't have teammates to draw aggro. Sit on top of a building away from the fight and point a laser at drones until it's safe for you to go in. If close range weapons are killing you then put more distance between you and the enemy, you have the mobility for it.

>>16714322

I am perfectly happy with that role, but for some brilliant reason your story progress is not retained between single and multiplayer. I'm on mission 20 online, and mission 102 offline. I don't want to play through the game again at this point just to do it with other people.

And have you ever played a drone-heavy mission with Wing Diver? They surround you and then pass through your model, making it impossible to shoot without killing yourself. It's not a matter of just not keeping enough distance. And no, you don't have the energy to also try to maintain that distance while also shooting and dodging.

>Oh man I'm going to have fun and use this high altitude missile launcher

>Lock on to 10+ targets Jump up and shoot

<0 HP

W H Y

>>16714456

Oh you must have jiggled a millimeter to the left while moving your camera view from a 42 degree slant to a 47. Common mistake really, happens to the best

Those fucking missiles are janky as fuck, I hardly ever use them outside of offline because of how much a liability they make me

>>16714456

>jump and shoot

That's where you fucked up.

You have to be sure you've been standing perfectly still for at least 4 seconds on a completely flat, open area free of debris and at least 40m away from anything that could potentially get in your way whenever you fire that thing. Then you'll only blow up 1 in 8 times instead of 1 in 3.

>>16714615

Did they actually manage to make it worse that in 4.1?

I remember it being fairly reliable to use in 4.1 as long as there wasn't anything near you

>>16714619

Its actually better than 4.1.

Its just the missile launches a little bit lower which sometimes land on you.

t. High altitude missile launcher apologist.

>>16714619

No it's better than 4.1, but it's still janky enough that if you're not extremely careful with it you're going to blow yourself up often.

>>16713691

I don't know about the story but fuck me I wish they had 4.1 EDF song instead of the new garbage. I need to protect mother earth from any alien attack.

>>16713624

It was the same on previous game and on console. This shit makes me furious, it's like they enjoy wasting our time.

>>16714258

Plasma cannons.

Early game WD is the worst because every weapons eats all your energy if it seems to do enough damage to kill things.

You have to rely on mid range lasers and the fact they use a magazine to not get out of energy.

Then later in the game you start getting multishot plasma canons and canons that use less than 15% of your energy while dealing a shitton of damage. Then the WD becomes reliable without having to cheese.

>>16714668

The guy I'm responding to was complaining about short range weapons, moron.

Also they fucking SUCK, they actually have lower DPS than mid, and they better ones either require to hug your enemy to hit it AND can't pierce, or eat up over 100% of your energy when they reload.

Mid range lasers are superior in every way possible. Do you have multi-way lasers that bounce in the short range section? No you don't.

>>16714681

Maybe that's the case later on. I'm on mission 33 and using the spark gun is just amazing. I barely even need a second weapon. I just use a long range one as secondary to dismember frogs from afar.

>>16714681

Phalanx has the most dps of any of the wing diver weapons and has enough range to keep you of trouble. Rapier does more dps than anything else as well and with a ridiculously fast reload which makes them excellent at destroying pylons and transports. The damage per shot of lances is outstanding, especially dragoon lances and those pierce. A single shot from a dragoon lance will do more damage than most other weapons in their whole clip. I found most kinetic weapons didn't have enough damage for my taste besides mag blasters and those need to be reloaded constantly to keep up the damage. Electric weapons at least have aoe to make up for their damage. Pulse weapons are completely retarded with their huge clips and explosive aoe and are liable to get you killed when an npc or random debris goes in front of you. Stardust is good though.

What's the best ranger loadout? Are rangers able to compete with wing diver or fencer this time around?

>>16714767

Ranger is a 7/10 class compared to everyone else's 9.5/10s.

>>16713614

Hectors were a great enemy..the wobbly physics made fighting them fun

>>16714757

You're talking about burst damage. In a game where you're constantly moving, range matter a great deal in the calculation of constant damage output.

Especially if you have to be on the run to not get killed, then shooting while moving is necessary, but rapiers require you to not move too far away to keep in range with your chasers. Anyhow I've never seen someone tackle late game ambush missions (where enemies spawn all around the map and you're in the middle) with a short range weapon as their main. If these weapons were that good, wouldn't they be useful in these extreme situations?

Face it, it's a toy you enjoy, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not objectively good and definitely won't carry you through the game. Especially if you're bad at video games, like that guy who complained about WDs "needing" 48h of armor farming.

>>16714767

You'll have to use different loadouts depending on what you're facing.

Personally, if I knew I was up against any kind of cosmonaut or giant insect I'd use a shotgun, except in some of the larger pitched battles where I used a sniper rifle or long-range assault rifle against them. Against pylons and teleport ships I either used one of the extremely powerful semi-automatic assault rifles or I sniped them from across the map with rocket launchers. If I knew there were mostly just big bunches of bugs, I'd bring an auto-assault rifle (I was partial to the Minion Burst) and a wide AoE grenade/rocket launcher, like the Spread, or a fast-firing one like the Cascade or the UMRA.

That works decently well, usually. It got me through all of Hard mode, at the very least.

>>16714790

>Also they fucking SUCK, they actually have lower DPS than mid, and they better ones either require to hug your enemy to hit it AND can't pierce, or eat up over 100% of your energy when they reload

You made these claims which are all untrue. I never said short ranged weapons were the catch all for every situation. Obviously, I'm not going to use a short ranged weapon in a plain against aliens or against flying enemies. Maybe my view is skewed towards burst damage since I mostly played online with 3-4 people so anything that didn't rapidly/instantly kill enemies was basically useless.

>>16714835

>You made these claims which are all untrue.

Are they really? With mid range lasers you can easily handle multiple enemies from a longer distance, since you can attack more enemies at once it multiplies the total damage you deal and they work just as good for short range when you're dealing with one single big one. How many of them lasers (short and mid both) can pierce through multiple enemies? Maybe the demon lance, I'm not even sure; even if it did this one is only good to deal with one big guy because it has the tiniest range and consumes large amounts of energy.

>since I mostly played online with 3-4 people anything that didn't rapidly/instantly kill enemies was basically useless.

More like your piggybacking on others don't put you in situations that show the shortcomings of your loadout of choice.

I've never been using short range lasers seriously, only for fun or testing, because they just don't cut it.

>>16714035

>when are the mission packs out?

There's two out already iirc.

>>16714947

Did they censor the rape out of it?

Give the ranger a third weapon slot, buff his snipeRs and rockets a bit, have two support slots with one for suit buffs the other for vehicles and let him call in his own paratrooper infantry.

Balance the Air Raiders vehicles with his arty and make limpets good, bring back plasma vendors.

Wing divers should have their homing weapons buffed and nerf their overall energy usage so only a few loadoats allow infinite air time.

Fencer is too good at everything due to his mobility, he should be slowed down a bit and his missiles be buffed. Also more fist weapons.

>>16714855

>I dunno

>Nope, but heres hoping

>>16714951

You shouldnt be allowed to touch anything related to EDF

>>16714893

>short range has less dps than mid

untrue, phalanx and rapier. Mag blaster only comes close when it has near full ammo and spine blaster requires several enemies lined up.

>require to hug and can't pierce

untrue, dragoon range almost matches mid range kinetics and it pieces.

>require tons of energy to reload

Dragoon lances cost like 30-40 energy per shot if you fully charge and they pierce. If you use them correctly, like against single big targets or crowds you've gathered in one direction, it's incredibly energy efficient. Even a mid charge dragoon can one shot a frog if you headshot it. Everything else short range has a magazine or doesn't take much energy to charge

>With mid range lasers you can easily handle multiple enemies from a longer distance, since you can attack more enemies at once it multiplies the total damage you deal and they work just as good for short range when you're dealing with one single big one.

What mid range lasers are you using that can hit so many enemies and still be effective against a single target. All my lasers either don't pierce or rely on piercing to do effective damage like spine blaster which has horrible single target damage.

>How many of them lasers (short and mid both) can pierce through multiple enemies?

Why are you asking me which mid range ones pierce, that's your job here to know. Dragoon does pierce and it'll kill anything it hits. Spark whips kind of pierce in that the bolts will move around enemies they hit but that's a characteristic of all electric weapons. The only mid range laser that pierces is spine busters which do shit dps.

>More like your piggybacking on others don't put you in situations that show the shortcomings of your loadout of choice.

No shit, having teammates lets us specialize which is what the wing diver is good at. You need high dps to blow something up? phalanx or rapier. Burst to take out high priority target asap? dragoon. Long range burst? monster or raijin with big core. Need a distraction? sky high core with blink grenades. How about drones? Stardust. I'm doing my job as a wing diver in using my mobility and burst to take out pylons, transports and aliens asap. I support the team in destroying crowd by making sure there is no more enemies coming as well as distracting enemy by flying above them or suppressing them with mirage or special weapons. In cases where enemy is too far away like those giant pylons near the end of the game, I focus on clearing. In that case mid range energy weapons and ranged weapons are the winner with their superior aoe. Stardust is king vs drones and big enemies. There's no room for kinetic weapons unless you're completely blind in what you have to deal with. They don't have anything they specialize in that other weapons can't do better. They also have the downside of their power falling off as their ammo decreases which is a big problem since reloading costs you energy and they cost more energy to reload than short range weapons.

>>16714965

Spotted the Fencer.

>>16714977

GOTTA GO FAST

>>16714855

It's worse in every possible way and is not worth a PC port

>>16714965

Instead of those changes, Fencer should gain the ability to use vehicles. Wait no, scratch that, Fencer should be able to TRANSFORM into vehicles, and the vehicles should be customizable with different parts and weapons. Also Fencer should be a cute girl.

>>16715013

Why aren't they all cute girls?

>>16715018

>>16715013

Why aren't the aliums cute girls?

>>16715027

Because then you would have to spend the game shooting and killing cute girls.

>>16715013

The fencer can use mechas at least.

In fact, if fencer gets enough kills he should earn his damn right to turn into not just a mecha, but a fucking gundam right there and then.

>>16714456

>>16714462

.>>16714615

HAIL missiles would be a really good weapon if they weren't so dangerously finicky to use.

That said, after completing hard I concluded the dispersal mortar is truly one of the Fencer's greatest weapons, if not THE greatest so far

>mobility of a light mortar, including the boost jump

>total damage is at very least 3x of the equivalent level's heavy mortar

>scattered explosions makes accidental friendly fire far less lethal

>also allows you to use it near point blank, instagibbing pepes and ayys

>lets you outrun green faggot ants as you blow them away

<can't reliably shoot it across the map like heavy mortar

<slow to reload, 10 seconds minimum

Can't find a ranged weapon more fun to use than this.

>>16715187

If it is anything like in the 4.1 then it is blow your load all at once and no reload. I haven't tested it in 5. In 4.1 you can stop it shooting if you change weapons. If I remember correctly in 4.1 air raider got plasma assist gun to help out wing diver but don't know if it will work on fencer with "Disruptors".

Wait, do rangers just straight up not have the laser blasters in edf 5?

>>16715216

>>16715187

Sadly it's just flavor. Pretty sure that plasma chargers don't recharge them in 4.1 and I've yet to see any equipment for fencer that does it.

>>16715236

There's a weapon called the blazer that's similar.

>>16715237

On the mobility hand I usually have either a jackhammer or blasthole and a dexter, combat hand is pretty open but commonly it's the tower shield and the ut gatling, but dual blood storms or mortars are also nice. For equipment I use multicharger and the exoskeleton.

>>16714951

>bring back plasma vendors

Why, are Wing Divers who bring the Big Core not satisfied with the capacity to destroy any and every enormous creature with their high energy requirement weapons? Or are the rest of them not happy with being able to aggressively fly up and one-shot virtually any enemy with their phalanx? You think those people need to be placated by forcing the Air Raider to replace a Spritefall with a plasma vendor? Pro tip: People who use the Big Core don't need additional weapon power and would just prefer a power post/assist gun. People who don't use the Big Core aren't going to sit at a plasma vendor.

>Wing divers should have their homing weapons buffed

Yeah, fuck anyone who uses anything other than the Big Core and Geist. And fuck every other player and NPC on the map with those people. Pink apocalypse or bust.

>should be slowed down

You have some really shit ideas. High speed low agility is a snug fit for Fencer. A Fencer with two dedicated booster items can't keep up with Wing Divers with normal cores in some environments, let alone those who bring double speed cores. Ranger sprint needs a better camera and about a 20% speed increase. Air Raider's lower level vehicles need a speed buff, because abandoning your vehicle to keep up with the rest of the team shouldn't be a common practice, and neither should using only the APC.

Don't ever slow down characters in a 4 player game you mongoloid.

>>16715013

>vehicles should be customizable with different parts and weapons

This would be a good evolution for Air Raiders, who are forced to upgrade vehicles to variants they find less fun only due to the fact that the fun vehicles they use get old. Why bother having 50 Nix variants when you could collect Nix base items that have different modifiers and slot types to bring specific types of weapons? The only Nix that I picked up at a convenient time was the battle cannon variant. And if EDF can afford to bring me 6 powered exoskeletons to a single battlefield simply because I've run out of ammo, they probably can afford to give me a waifu assistant mechanic to help customize my suits.

>>16715079

>The fencer can use mechas at least.

If you're referring to the vehicles placed in the maps later in the game, those are there to help everybody, and therefore can be piloted by any class. That includes the Railgun they've hidden in the mission where you kill multiple kings, queens, and an Erginus.

>>16714790

>core gameplay mechanic is ass-backwards Nip idea of fun, running around collecting boxes for HP upgrades at the most tedious pace possible

>this is necessary to the point that communities develop standards on what's an acceptable amount to have before joining multiplayer games at higher than default difficulties

>the speed/evasion class is the only one that can meaningfully run out of speed/evasion, and physics glitches will regularly take it away anyways

>so will actually attacking on pace with everyone else

>their armor gain is intentionally gimped, so they're five times more dependant on grinding

>"ur just bad"

Shit design is shit design. They have a good idea with WD, but they left so many burrs on the experience that it's not fun unless you've got a team to be the front line for you.

>>16715107

Hey, The Maid Uniform and Machine Gun had its chance right alongside EDF.

>>16715237

I almost always keep a Twin Blast Spears in my loadout because it just increases your mobility by a metric shit ton when you learn how to use it. Close range mobility, and then whatever suits the mission for the others

>>16715237

Set1: L Jackhammer, R Shotgun

Set2: L Arm Hound, R Dispersion Mortar or NCSS Cannon Shot

Equipment is whatever gives me more boosts and dashes.

The Jackhammer/Shotgun combo is for going fast while wrecking everything short range, while the second set is for specialized stuff like Arm Hound for flying enemies and Dispersion Mortar or Cannon Shot for big guys or AoE.

I like playing sanic cuhrayzee Fencer.

I hate the gatling guns and I think they are for queers.

>>16715378

>he needs more than 500hp as Wing Diver

Maybe you just suck at EDF.

>>16715451

>I hate the gatling guns and I think they are for queers.

If they had a little bit of penetration they're bullets from a very big gun flying at high speeds why would they not and didn't require multiple seconds to spin up Which I can never get the upgrades for it'd be a more viable weapon.

>arm hound

how and why do you even use that shit? It never does any damage for me.

>>16715363

There is nothing wrong with including plasma vendors as an addition to air raider, wing diver has the weapons to drain their entire power supply and if the air raider wants to help them it's a benefit to the team.

>Fuck anyone who uses anything but the big core and geist

Homing weapons are shit nigger they're drastically worse than the other weapons and get shittier as they upgrade.

Everything you said about the fencer is also false, he has the highest speed in the game, even more than wing diver. No agility is also bullshit if you know how to properly jump cancel. Buffing the speed of everyone else leads you with a ridiculously easy game where you can outrun pretty much every enemy, although you can already do that with fencer and without an energy limit. Denver is just the best class and if the solution to his speed problem is speeding everyone else up then the game would be so boring.

>>16715413

Don't worry he'll be even faster once the dlc missions arrive.

>>16715461

>how and why do you even use that shit? It never does any damage for me.

Arm Hound is enough for drones and hornets and it reloads fast, that's all it needs. For bigger flying nasties I can use the shotgun or even the Cannon Shot. The Arm Hound has the dash so by picking it I maintain control consistency with set 1, but if you don't care about that you can pick the High Altitude Missiles for the sme functionality but more damage.

>25 hours in

>only on mission 36 bees

>wing diver only has 216 max energy and I run out super fast

Am I doing fine or am I missing something? When do I get this big core nigger?

Whoever said the max dashes you can get in the base game is 4 is a dirty fucking liar and I'm so happy about it.

>>16715512

>>16715461

Oh, I forgot to mention, if you pick the High Altitude Missiles, prepare to commit accidental sudoku a lot. If you release the missiles while coming down from a jump, they all crash into the ground under your feet because they come out with the same momentum as you and take a second before they start flying.

>>16715475

I dunno. I think Homing weapons at least have niche use cases. Swarms of tadpoles can be thrown around like handfuls of confetti with the Ghost Chaser. Even though it does shit damage, it fucks with their AI and keeps them from moving into any of their attack sequences long enough for even NPC allies to stand a chance against them. It's more like an area denial weapon than a lethal weapon. Tall Ayylmaos like the final boss summons can be stunlocked with Geist spam from long range. Even the Mirage 15, when combined with Big Core, comes in handy against green ants (as long as you have no other need for your energy).

Snipers are where the real abominations are. I cannot imagine seriously taking a WD sniper. Raijin will drain a full and a half power core to get a single shot off, and everything else is trash damage. Anything I can do with a sniper rifle, I'm way better off just learning to aim well with Plasma Heavy Canon. It costs like a third as much for more damage, plus huge AoE, plus arcing for indirect fire, plus a huge recoil that can actually be used as emergency evasion mid-air if you see something oh-shit inducing coming at you.

>>16715538

>>16715512

I didn't use Fencer too much but I found it couldn't deal damage at all, maybe I just need a better one or to upgrade it.

>>16715548

I probably left it on some when, doesn't feel like I've played for 25 hours.

>>16715461

>needing penetration and upgrades for the gattling guns

Anon just time rev appropriately to when the enemy is coming for you and you can also charge it in the air whenever you do a boost jump. The gattling guns are an amazing weapon and are even better when dual weilded, you are nearly untouchable at that point. You just need to git gud with them thats all.

>>16715553

Shut down your game whenever your not playing it then jackass. I don't understand why you would have the need to leave it open for some reason.

>>16715542

I forgot they even had snipers honestly.

>>16715586

>Shut down your game whenever your not playing it then jackass

>go piss or shit

>remember dinner

>oh look a movie

>watches movie

>Fuck I left my game on

Happens to me way too often.

>Anon just time rev appropriately to when the enemy is coming for you

I just don't like the spin up, I like the nc101 cannon though, using those with blastspears was pretty fun.

>>16715632

it was a shitty nicholas cage movie, how could I not watch it?

>>16715641

just close your eyes, nigga

Any word on mods for 5 yet? All I want is a mod that makes hardest and inferno give you completion for lower difficulties too, since I find hard to be too easy now and doing over 300 more missions of that is such a slog

>>16715683

Can’t you just use cheat engine?

>>16715683

Does it not already? I've been playing through on Hard and it's given me completion for Easy and Normal. Do you have to complete Hardest and Inferno entirely separately?

>>16715738

For some inane reason yes. Hard gives completion for normal and easy, but inferno does not give hardest and hardest does not give hard, normal, and easy.

Anyone know how to pirate just the DLC?

holy shit why are low level fencer weapons such trash? this fucking UT1 gatling can't hit a single fucking thing

>>16715793

Fencer kinda has to stick to cqc for the early levels.

>>16715793

Use a blasthole spear + nc101 think thats the name cannon. Dart around with that shit shooting and spearing when you have the chance. It's not amazing but it's definitely fun and is able to get the first few missions done on hard easy as long as you're careful.

>>16715846

>>buy a game

>buy a game

>buy

>game

>

nigger I'm poor as fuck I can't afford this shit, if I could I would've been playing with you lot.

>I even have ADD and even I don't even do that shit.

so many of my games have longer playtimes than they should because I accidentally leave them open when I go to do something else after doing something

>>16715475

People keep on talking about jump canceling but I never figured out what that is, can you tell me what it is and how to do it?

Some anon told me about the dash-boost jump and that added maneuverability single handedly justified playing as fencer for me, is jump canceling that important to fencer too?

Maybe i have already been doing it though i have no clue really

>>16715993

There's animation cancelling, where you attack after your last dash to keep momentum and spare you the lag of the end of the dash animation. You can cancel dashes with jumps, but you need to cancel with attacks if you canceled a jump animation with your dash. It's pretty much necessary once you get athird off the way through the game, stopping is death when shit gets hectic

>>16715793

>blasthole - bread n butter

>twin spear - better bread n butter + go fast

>jackhammer - punch the living crap out of anyone

>spine driver - slow but more damage

>hammer - maximum AOE damage

>flamethrower - pure fucking DPS

>gatling gun - can actually hit shit more than 20m

>shotgun - high burst damage with penetration on top

>light mortars - big fucking AOE

>lightweight cannons - can hit very far

Weapons tend to shine when upgraded as some utility upgrades like accuracy, delay, reload times are really shit when not upgraded.

High DPS can actually stunlock large enemies and obliterate them as long as you have ammo.

>>16716086

You forgot to mention early flamethrowers take 50 fucking years to fully rev up before burning pepes and ayys to a crisp.

>>16715363

>low agility

>>16715962

>>16715856

>if I could I would've been playing with you lot

You know you can play online on a pirate version right? You just need smart steam emu, but you can't join legitfags' rooms

>>16716034

>try it myself

I can now move at a decent pace, interesting.

>>16716125

Vulcan Hammer is a bit less godlike since the ayys move quicker than the Hectors did, but its still the best melee weapon I agree. The flame revolver is by far one of the least practical weapon besides the joke weapons I've found since its recoil forces you to look straight up. For AOE, piercing is king.

>>16715363

Yeah not gonna lie I've found the fencer agility to be off the fucking hook once you learn all the tricks. Short hops, blast twin spear, killing your momentum, etc. High skill cap but you can thread the needle once you start getting good at it

>>16716176

I mean my personal issue is that fencer is just hands down best at everything late game. Most mobile, incredibly high consistent damage without pause basically. Meanwhile the rest of the cast sort of just becomes redundant. "oh you can call in an air strike? I can swing a sword once, do it faster, and do more damage" "How cute a rocket? I have 90 of them that do the same damage" "You think you can fly watch this *teleports behind a pylon*"

>>16716271

I wouldn't say he's the best. He can do good damage and move ludicrously fast, but air raider really just has stupid amounts of utility and his nukes really do beat out the best fencer can do. Also ranger I'd say has damage that's on par because he can sustain it without either locking himself down with a shield or needing to go stupid fast, or at least that was how he was in 4.1. I will say that as it stands he just spanks wing diver's ass because he basically does what she does and more, and has double the armor growth.

>>16716344

I disagree there, Air Raider's mobility is such an ever present issue with him especially mid game where Fencer starts flying around the map at mach 2.

Also you don't need a shield anymore with fencer, see >>16715962

>>16715475

Imagine paying for DLC.

Imagine waiting, with the content from a DLC sitting on your hard drive, while you sit impotently and unable to access it.

Imagine the utter shame and stupidity that comes with being a buyfag.

>>16716396

I think you need to attack during the jump animation to reset it.

fucking fencer is amazing when you figure out the cancels and shit

>need to get a roof

>jump upwards

>switch weapons

>dash twice

>unleash gatling cum on the niggers below

If only the game wasn't jewish and would give me a fucking upgrade for the weapons I want.

I've cleared the mission pack 1 dlc and now I can set the difficulty to inferno but I'm unable to toggle the weapon and armor lmits, I assume I have to clear the story first to get those to work?

>>16716428

Get 70% story clear or 80% somewhere around there. Luckily you can clear hard with 4 classes for 60%.

>>16716396

Basically its the same as the old shield cancel from 4.1.

>>16717061

If someones first instinct wasn't to punch god in the dick I pity them. Soon as I saw him in the second to last mission I went and equipped duel jackhammers for the last fight

>>16714211

>play EDF5

>soldier says something about illegal aliens immigration

heh

Room name: Bug War

Mission: 48 (hard)

No pass

Time to fumigate!

>>16717191

>primary combat in game is about bugs

>plot point that the aliens can't handle pollution

>over the top and ridiculous weaponry

>absolutely no weapons that make use of toxins, poisons, etc

I just want a tank that projects a firehose stream of Raid and lays roach motel mines.

>>16717312

>still posting

>not fucking killing yourself

What are you, gay?

>>16717335

>still replying

I'm not the same guy, anon.

>>16715107

>Ara Fencers

>>16717468

I don't want to hurt them, I want to fight alongside them against the invading Chinese/Australian/French Space Coalition.

>>16717506

Be careful what you wish for, mate.

>>16713600

5 has it's merits where it does better but 4.1 seemed to ramp up the despair and desperation better. The intro missions in 5 just didn't seem as good to me storywise. Maybe it's because in 4.1 they already knew about the ravagers and their eventual return but it just seemed to flow better, especially the initial missions just involving insects followed by the motherships arriving and then the gradual deployal of ravager war machines. Likewise going from motherships to earth eaters followed by the eventual collapse of the EDF and humanities resistance was great, I haven't finished 5 yet but i'm on mission 92 and it doesn't feel like it's done as well.

I also disliked the giant monsters in 5. In 4.1 Erginus was built up as a genuinely big threat from how it came out of nowhere into a routine mission where your feeling great about the air force now being able to shoot down transport ships to suddenly Godzilla broke through all defense lines and is here to fuck shit up. It felt like they just half heartedly threw Erginus into a mission already named so that they could kill him off right after to then introduce Archelus who is our new super op OC guys! They then dragged out Archelus for half the game with him appearing in a few missions with the exact same result before a pretty good finale with a couple missions build up. It would have been better if they kept Erginus as the big monster early on while maybe teasing Archelus over the radio before then introducing him later on after you are finally able to take down Erginus after much struggle, that way he feels like the natural upgrade rather than being forced down your throat.

There were a lot of nice touches though like the recurring squads such as the Seargent, Reapers and Spriggans along with some of the other radio details. The peace talks made me laugh and the EDF paying peoples loadamoney to sign up was a nice addition though they should probably have moved to full conscription sooner. The 5 month time skip infuriated me though, it takes 5 monthes and 20% of the human population for someone to realize the teleporter ships weakness? I have no idea why the primers also did nothing but drop bugs for 5 whole monthes either but maybe that will be explained by the end of the game i'm about to reach.

>>16717509

Isn't that what we're against in EDF 5 though?

>want to upgrade the FG8 hand gatling

>go check the levels for it

>play it over and over

>still no upgrade

guess I'll die

>>16717292

Get yourself the melt buster anon.

>>16715962

>that loading screen

You can't equip twice the same weapon in EDF5?

>>16718025

Yeah, only the fencer can. Not as big a deal for the ranger and wing diver as it is for the air raider.

>>16718066

The whole passive reload thing for AR makes it not matter a whole lot.

>>16716271

>my personal issue is that fencer is just hands down best at everything late game.

What's the problem with that? Does it kill the joy of playing other classes for you? Fencer can't summon neat vehicles, he doesn't have light-show alium armament like the wing diver, the only class I can see him make obsolete is the ranger, and even then ranger still has his unique arsenal that is fun to use.

>>16716386

Stupid people don't have shame

>>16717292

They got rid of the puke gun? Forgot its name, short ranged ranger weapon that shits ant cum, it came in both shotgun and "flame"thrower versions in the previous game (no high level version, gets obsolete in inferno).

>>16716386

The DLC mission content is already packed with the game on launch? I mean I believe it but did they really mess up that bad?

>>16718083

The acid gun/shot you mean? Haven't seen it yet.

>>16716386

>>16718083

>being this upset about people spending money

as long as it's not going in extremes where you buy hundreds (or thousands even) of shit that you dont touch, I dont see the problem

>>16718113

>The DLC mission content is already packed with the game on launch?

Pirates certainly have access to it using only the currently-released files. They didn't "mess up" at all, what the fuck do you think DLC is? This is your reward for "buying" a game on Steam with higher priced DLC than the game itself.

>>16718158

Nothing stops you from pirating if you wish so (that's how i tested EDF4.1 on PC before buying it), but there is literally no point to pretend to be the better man in this thread through shitposting.

friends played 6 hours a day, then 6 hours, then vacations hit and they went all out with 12 hour sessions.

At some point I burned out and left. Now don't really feel like repeating the campaign a second time in SP.

>Fencerfags fuming at the idea that they shouldn't be the ones who keep getting all the best toys and that other classes should have a chance at the toy-box.

>>16718158

>>16718214

Was asking more on the developer incompetence side, if they are just mission files there is no need to have them there.

Yes, devs cut base game content all the time to sell as DLC, I know.

Can you pirate the DLC with a legit copy of the main game?

>>16718543

yep

>>16718547

Wait shit really? Even right now before it's officially out? I assume you just need to crack some file since the content is all there in the game already apparently.

>>16718557

I don't know about the mission packs, I just used this >>16715829 and got all the idol balloons and stuff, but not the missions packs. I assume when they're out there will be a crack.

>>16717972

Have you tried going fast?

>>16718563

How do I unlock the dlc with 7zip?

>>16719148

>>16719118

Nevermind I just pulled the creamapi files from the pirated version and put it in the legit copy.

>>16719148

>change the extension

Its 7zip, you don't even have to do that. You can just right click on any fucking file and select 7zip and open archive.

And pirating dlc doesn't prevent me from going online?

>>16719189

There’s no anti cheat or piracy detection whatsoever as far as I know, except the obvious steam DRM.

>steam servers shit themselves

>all rooms break

This is such bullshit

>>16719148

What file are we talking about?

>>16719228

The image dummy. The one named “use7zip”.

>>16719234

>cannot open as archive

>>16719221

Host can kick so cheaters aren't a problem.

>>16719430

Have you tried making it into .7z?

>>16719500

Never mind I got it to work by saving the image differently.

>>16719667

pirate room?

>>16719695

nope

Sweet. Looks like people figured out how to change fov. I'm going to have to try to get 2 player split screen on separate monitors working tomorrow.

>>16718229

I was fairly impressed with the english voice acting for that scene. Glad they nailed it pretty well.

Why does playing ranger feel either rewarding and super fun or utterly useless. There is no inbetween.

>>16719788

because things go from manageable to acid bukkake real quick.

>>16719788

Because he's either landing his shots or having to spend twenty minutes dodge rolling.

>>16719951

I don't know. I didn't really like the last boss, his hardest skill set is summoning armored ayys. The best part of that mission was the angry commander.

>dlc / hardest+ enemies

Damn I might as well die

I'll host a game in a bit, i'm poor and still on 4.1

>>16720235

>Trying to do it in 4 player co-op with two friends who are new to the game as air raider

>Say fuck it and go full support

>Make a wall with anti-aircraft shields, power post and bring a guide beacon gun

>Tell the Fencer to equip that new Haytal gun he got a while ago

>Hundreds of missles chase down the drones while I watch from the safety of my ambulance

Air raider gets pretty comfy sometimes

>>16713600

>EDF

>story

Fag.

It'd be nice if the Wing Dinguses (and everyone else in the EDF for that matter) could stop going into my line of fire. It's like they love to get rocket beacons up their asses.

>>16720739

>charging up a big 6000+ damage weapon

>go to fire

>as soon as I fire a ranger decides to walk in front of me

>mission failed

>>16720220

I always found it just flips over when I turn and I have no idea why.

>>16720751

I don't even think that the EDF AI was this suicidal back in 4.1. They are so stupid both in story than ingame it's not funny.

>>16720774

I tend to fly upwards ever since but as a ranger it's beyond annoying to use a grenade nuke and then have some ant or even one of your own guys just walk into your line of devastation like you're throwing a picnic.

MODS WHERE

I WANT NEW WEAPONS AND MISSIONS AND HECTORS BACK PUT IN THE SAME STAGE AS COSMONAUTS

>>16721119

A mod for a better AI would be nice, but that's not happening anytime soon, I guess.

>can't find upgrades for shit I actually need

>making progress with a fencer mildly fucking difficult because the weapons I need to do the hard shit are too hard

ok fuck you dickhead. Spend hours on this shit and get dicked on in return

>>16721461

Play AR like a real man.

>>16721477

I'm playing Fencer, I keep getting upgrades for EVERYTHING apart from one weapon. It's getting insane with how much time I'm putting into it. Especially with the fact that I am following the level guide shit.

>solo air raider

I have little sanity left anon

Mission 74 makes me wanna kill myself playing as fencer, any tips?

>>16721828

High altitude launchers, shield and a big ol spear

>>16721828

Is that when 40,000 frogs divebomb you to hell?

At the beginning of the fight, you can use long range weapons to draw frogs in from the cloud and they'll mostly aggro the soldiers in front of you. After the swarm comes in, start ducking in between alleys, constantly dash cancelling and shooring the frogs down as they come down over your head. I liked dexter for its spread and its not destroying my cover. One bullet will knock the frogs out of flight and leave them open for more shootan and spearan.

Change directions often, never stop moving

Oh my fuck are spiders the strongest enemy in the game? I never noticed it much on hard but I was playing inferno, dropped down a barga, and they evaporated that shit. 225000 HP gone in a matter of seconds. Not even pepes and ayys shit out that much damage.

>>16722024

Their threads are balanced around the player getting hit once or twice, vehicles take the whole 10+ hit.

Started a pirate lobby

Name: yes

Mission 109, hard

>>16719951

why does your colour scheme remind me of a GM powered?

are flame revolvers a joke weapon or what? these things are unusable unless somehow you have enemies standing on your head

>>16722177

Use muzzle stabilizers. High level ones can completely nullify recoil.

>>16722207

I wonder if someone made another “European migrant crisis simulator” review for EDF5, it would get censored like vermintide.

How do you deal with massive spider hordes as fencer? Dashing all over doesn't mean much when these things jump over whole blocks at a time

>>16722292

Canister shot, the one that pierces AND rebounds, is your friend.

>>16722307

Gatling is boring but can suit almost any situation. Its also your best weapon imo for flying swarms of pepes.

>>16722313

I agree with both but theres something thats jsut so satisfying about rolling with dual gatlings

>>16722292

Dash and jump away as fast as you can to build a little distance and then try to pick them off as they jump at you

>>16722313

>>16722307

Is there any advantage of the FG10 over UT2? The former seems to be a complete downgrade on all stats despite being like 10 levels higher what the fuck

>>16722320

is it fully upgraded? A lot of time higher ranked/leveled weapons are straight garbage compared to lower level ones that are upgraded well.

>>16722315

I really enjoy the jiggle of the ammo belts when you fire them.

>>16722320

UT series tend to have a huge hugest magazine size over the FG series

>>16722147

Are you that fencer with the wing diver that did missions 85-100+ yesterday?

Anyone tried the grinding spots? There are two missions where you can farm pillbugs and they can't even physically get to you. It makes the Hard->Inferno leap managable. Fuck playing through Hardest too.

>>16722602

gotta play Hardest to get the % completion tho. But for farming, Armor farm is super easy solo on mission 40.

>>16722636

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's literally no incentive to get completion %. The game is essentially the same on each playthrough with only minor alterations and bigger numbers being thrown around, too. Even if I do eventually play through on Hardest, I'm going to do it with weapons I got on Inferno.

As soon as my Steam client stops being a nigger, I'll boot it up and find out which missions the grinding spots are at for Anons that likewise don't want to slog through Hardest. They can be done on Inferno the instant you beat the story.

>>16722646

Any of the missions with pillbugs only are easy grinding

>>16722646

Alright, here we are.

Mission 62, Sweeping Monster Balls, takes place in an urban environment and features nothing but pillbugs as enemies. They can't squeeze into small spaces, so if you find a parking garage, you are literally invincible for the entire level as they have no ranged attacks. There's one to your 4 o clock when you spawn in, and another about 100 meters away to your 11. This one is extremely safe to the point of being nearly impossible to fail, even if you go in on Inferno and only have weapons from Normal difficulty.

Mission 87, Approaching Monster Balls, is much more dangerous but gets you a higher tier of items. As soon as the map starts, turn 90 degrees to the right and run/dash/fly upstream along the river as fast as possible. Towards the edge of the level, there will be a small waterfall with some rocks at the base. The rocks on the right have a tiny nook that you can wedge yourself into, leaving you out of reach of the bugs. The danger comes from the sheer proximity of the bugs and tightness of the geometry; bugs or their discorporated bits as you kill them will sometimes clip through and nudge you out of the corner, leaving you vulnerable and possibly dead instantly depending on how low your HP is. Bring weapons that either produce a wall of ongoing damage or have massive knockback to blast their remains clear of your hidey hole. Ranger and Air Raider have the easiest time, Wing Diver's large wings make it a bit more difficult for her, and I haven't tried as Fencer yet.

The best setup I've had so far though is actually WD carrying Psi Cluster a, Gleipnir EX, and Big Core. Psi Cluster a's horizontal attack pattern, solid knockback, and manic firing rate actually pushes the bugs away fast enough to produce a wall they can't even approach. Tossing a Gleipnir straight up will do the same for the hole in the roof, leaving you untouchable. Big Core's recharge bonus applies to both, meaning you can have two of each on the field at some times, and never go without one. At that point it's a waiting game until you rake up dozens of drops while the map expends itself against you.

>>16722658

Generally, but this is a way to make a massive leap from Normal to Inferno without always dying in one hit.

>>16720751

>I always found it just flips over when I turn and I have no idea why.

you need to be careful with the turning, once you get used to it, you could go fast and kill bugs left and right.

>that mission with the bunch of queen ants, a golden queen and some ayys on inferno solo

How the fuck? The only time I came remotely close to beating it was with a full party of AR and Fencer spamming Spritefalls and Leviathans

>>16722983

>>16723003

I at least like how he doesn't look as top heavy now.

>>16723010

That's something, yeah.

These for EDF when?

>Open Hardest/Inferno room to pub for shits and gigs

>Instantly swarmed shitters with sub-500 HP, weak weapons and low completion percentage

As useless as they are, it is fun to use them as suicide bombers with C4 or limpets

>>16722678

Fencer has actually been the easiest and fastest way to farm 87- 86 with just flame revolvers since they pierce and deal lodsadamage. If you aim it up slightly, you can bounce the flames off the part jutting out to hit above you as well

>>16723283

did you finish all the classes in hard mode? im going for 50 missions first for each class.

>>16723319

actually I did not. Guess I'll do that.

>>16723262

>it is fun to use them as suicide bombers with C4 or limpets

Don't they get mad when they blow up?

>>16722858

I'm using a mouse and keyboard so that's probably something to do with it.

>>16723782

Moving your mouse forward/backward will tilt the bike nose up/nose down. You can use this to do wheelies, flips off of jumps, right yourself whilst falling, or fuck yourself over while driving normally.

>>16723750

Only when I don't bother picking them up, but they need rescuing every 20 seconds so who cares

>>16723808

I thought you needed an invite to join a hardest/ inferno room if you haven't beaten the game. Good use of useless assets though.

>>16723863

A room of 2-3 people lowers the enemy health and damage multiplier to 2.0x from the 2.64x solo/4man multiplier, so having one or two shitters hop in can be useful. It's why solo online can is more difficult than solo offline.

First mission pack is out, anyone got the crack?

Where is wingdiver porn?

>>16724528

>reply>thanks>i love you

>>16724404

Bump for this

Is this game fucking me in the ass right now or am I missing something?

>look at guides

>in order to get these weapons you should do these levels

>ok I want to upgrade my nc101 cannon

>apparently this means mission 3-4 are the best as they both have only 0-1 level weapons

>get a nc101 cannon

>great

>no upgrade

>this happens fucking ten times

I'm doing something wrong right? I'm actually starting to get fucking pissed that I don't seem to be able to get weapon upgrade that I actually want. but no literally every ranger weapon is an upgrade very FUCK YOU

>>16724404

They're both out for me, I don't know what you guys are doing but just pirating a repack did it for me.

>>16724570

Can you do that for the legit steam version too?

>>16724639

I dont really get it from a single image

I see that >>16719371 has more files than I do though.

Did he get the files from here https://www.skidrowcodex.net/earth-defense-force-5-dlc-unlocker-codex/?

>>16724668

that's his whole EDF directory anon, that's why he has more. The pic is all you need.

>>16715962

What exactly do you need to do that "glitch"

>>16724668

Make sure you are saving the image correctly (should be around 1.4mb) then rename the file to .7z and extract it

>>16724639

And this also works with legit steamfag copies?

>>16724695

It worked for me with the idol decoys and stuff, so it should for the mission packs.

>>16724693

you just need to save the image as .7z

like something something.7z and then it opens up normally

>>16724710

I must be retarded then because the pic will only save as some 56kb thing with nothing inside

>>16724733

click the filename on the post. that should show give you the direct link to download it then add .7z at the end

wow these extra missions dont fuck around

>Mission pack is cheaper than in 4.1 despite everything else being more expensive

This makes no sense, I guess people didn't buy the packs so they increased the base game price instead in 5.

Extra mission 5 is completely absurd with AR

>underground mission with green ants and spawners

>infinite turbo ants in tight enclosed spaces

>no real vehicles no air strikes

>the free exoskellos get dissolved in seconds

>>16725388

You tried flamethrower turrets and buster bombs?

>>16725397

That barely worked and then I got raped by FUCKING ARMORED FROGS WHAT THE FUCK

>>16725468

If you’re still on in around 2 hours I can come help. Also maybe bring some bunkers for the frogs.

>>16725388

Youre playing AR in a cave mission solo, what did you expect?

>>16725801

I expected a grueling but doable mission like the other caves, not impossible bullshit

>>16726001

I can come help if you'd like. Ignore the ID change

>>16727179

ROOMS OPEN

NAME IS BUGFUCKERS ANONYMOUS

EDF 4.1

>>16727179

>kill huge swarm of bugs

>next wave doesn't come

>some spider is off at the edge of the map

How's the mission pack?

What sort of early game Air Raider loadout should I have? IT's a pretty cool class but I end up waiting for a minute once I'm out of ammo

>>16728921

Get short cooldown weapons. there are plenty. Otherwise play a different class until later. There's no shame in that.

Got a room up

Mission 62, Hard

Name: Bug War

>>16728921

Can never go wrong with gunships.

Limpets are shit

ZE guns are pretty good for tying up enemies while you reload/reposition your vehicle

Just make sure you try everything out, even if it doesn't appeal at first.

>>16728946

>>16728938

Found a couple 8 second/credit reload sort of shit.

>150mm cannon

>120mm neutralize cannon

>ze guns 2a

I have some pretty high level stuff, nothing special but they're kinda useless until I get the upgrades I guess. Cool class though, thought it was gonna be pretty shit alone.

So far I've played about 50 missions on wingdiver, up to mission 20 on fencer but I can go up to around 30 I think. So I have some nice weapons but without the upgrades and armor. Mild amount of death.

first time testing out air raider, any tips on what equipment is actually useful?

>depth crawlers are spider tanks

Why the fuck was I not made aware of this? These are fucking cool

>>16729005

Just find something with a quick reload, the autocannon doesn't seem too good though. Does good damage but as it tracks the enemies it'll follow the corpse too. So good in groups but alone it's kinda shit.

>>16727598

Dang if this room was up I would join, pirate version, cause thats where I am at.

anyone gonna reopen?

>>16728946

Room is now closed

But I know at least one person there still wanted to play so maybe he made a new one

>>16729160

yes thats me, guess Im gonna reopen. Name is still Bug War. Gonna have to do the same mission again though so I unlock the following one, havent played any online yet.

How do you win mission 100 with wind ranger? Fucking snipers get me from 700hp to 0 in 3 seconds. Impossible fucking shit.

>>16730133

wind diver*

>>16730136

windjammer*

>>16730169

wang driver*

>>16730220

wingardium leviosa

I feel like im stuck on what class to pick, AIR raider i have a problem with shitty vehicles and no really good firearm.

Fencer doesnt have big tiddys like they should and gets a bit bulky even though tey do get fast.

Wing diver doesnt have any machien guns and only weird laser and plama guns, and ranger is ranger.

>>16730298

WD has plasma machine guns

>>16730298

Clearly you never levelled up the spark vine and charged into a big group of enemies and wiped them all out with just two shots. Fencer and Wing diver have been my go to for most of the game for me. Air raider is cool but I feel like it lacks quite a bit in solo. Though that's probably intentional.

For the life of me I can't farm on any of the DLC missions, even 4.1 wasnt as ridiculous as this when it came to the DLC

>>16730463

Just wait until you see Mission Pack 2

>>16730463

find a good group and do mission 11

then find a better group and do mission 14

>>16728921

For the first slot I always have some sort of Autocannon. (later on you get the Minigun and Vulcan which are even better)

Quick reload, lots of shots, and can turn most bugs into minced meat. Good for taking out single targets that are bullying you or shooting the ground to chew up anything that gets in its red circle of death.

Then I bring some sort of bomber that can nuke a large area. (I really like Phobos)

After that I have either some sort of satellite or guided missiles depending on the map.

Artillery a shit. I really want to like them but the fact they still use grenade tossing to deploy them and it's really hard to tell where they are going to land past anything that isn't right in front of you I never use them (other then to screw around with or to allahu akbar if I get swarmed)

For a vehicle I usually bring my Grape since they are fast, can hold other players, and have lots of dakka.

Tanks are fun at times but I find they just don't have the armor to make up for the fact they are slow as shit and will get chewed up really fast.

I haven't really got a good Naegling yet so it's probably why I don't like them as much as in 4.1. Also find they tip over way easier then in 4.1.

I've been told Powered Exoskeletons are good but I've never really liked them. They feel like a bad mix of a tank and Depth Crawler, way too slow and not enough armor or ammo.

Helicopters a shit, trash, waste of a slot, not worth bringing ever other then to screw around in, and even then you probably won't have much fun because of how shit they are. Why the fuck the controls STILL this bad I'll never know.

For underground maps I usually just bring turrets and a Depth Crawler, maybe some health depending on the map. Limpets are pretty trash in 5 so I never bother to bring them.

>>16730750

Exoskeletons are actually really good. They have good gund, good armor, and while some are pretty slow, others can be quite fast but make sure you're jumping around. Trying to get anywhere just by walking will definitely make you feel like a turtle. Also some helicopters are pretty good, especially if you learn to be fast enough to exit, call in an airstrike, and board again before you've fallen too far.

I feel you with artillery though. They can do some crazy fucking damage but you can't hit shit with them.

>>16730823

Since I used mouse and keyboard (and you can't switch to a controller mid game) helicopters are impossible to fly and aim, and since they use fuel now you can't be up in the air fighting with the controls trying to maybe hit something.

Even the good exoskeletons I just find way too slow, and I don't even mean just walking but turning also. With a Grape I can blast into a crowd and fuck off to the other side of the map (which then gives me some breathing room to unleash hell on some bugs) faster then an exoskeleton can jump.

>>16730915

>Even the good exoskeletons I just find way too slow, and I don't even mean just walking but turning also

Which are you using? The C series and the red series tend to be pretty quick.

>>16730964

I've used the As, B, Cs and the Grenadier. Just tried a Red Shadow and I will admit that's way better so I guess I'll eat my hat.

Still more a Grape guy because FAST but I do see used for the higher level exoskeletons.

>>16731954

I have no idea why those images are in there.

>>16732010

I can open up a room for us.

What do you want to do?

You got the DLC downloaded?

>>16732010

>>16732019

I'll play for a mission or two.

DLC sounds good.

>mission pack blurb says to "play on hard to get a new weapon"

>beat all 15 missions on hard, didn't get shit

???

>>16732019

>don't have the DLC

fuck

I was just going to tag along with whatever, really.

>>16732030

use the unlocker

>>16732035

I am somewhat reluctant to cheat because I value using Steam for networking over my fucked up router situation, but there doesn't seem to be a history of these devs pursuing anything. Give me a few minutes to figure it out.

>>16732044

>REMEMBER EDF PRIDE!

>>16732048

Seriously dude there's no risk at all.

>>16732027

Made the room

You'll have to search by name, its called…

DEAD BUGGO STORAGE

>>16732057

spoil that shit nigger.

so does the DLC unlocker work on the legit games?

Alright. I've got the DLC working.

>>16732066

Yeah im playing legit with the DLC unlocked right now.

>>16732071

Join up mother fucker

DEAD BUGGO STORAGE

>>16732073

Not coming up in search.

>>16732029

It's a lie, you gotta play on inferno

Any pirates have a lobby up?

>>16732073

You there fam?

I'm retarded, how do I save the unlocker right?

>>16732076

Okay changed it so that its in the normal online mission mode.

Name is still the same.

>>16732102

Follow >>16724639 that guys instructions.

You have to space out the lines a little to match up with the other ones though.

We got 3 boys. Were doing the DLC if anyone else wants to join.

>>16732112

Is there a passcode?

Can't see any rooms named dead buggo storage.

>>16732111

No i mean actually saving the file, it's being downloaded as a 20/55 kb jpg when I try to download it.

>>16732116

Nevermind I found it.

>>16732073

so download the unlocker?

Did host die?

>>16732148

Looks like it.

Want to put up a new one?

>>16732151

It's up. Same name as before.

how do uncensor the chat?

>>16732167

That gif is how I feel about mission 40. What weapons did you anons use?

>>16732341

>mission 40

you mean mission 39? where you get swarmed by everything?

Some of the DLC missions feel more like puzzles than combat situations. Mission 5 requires a lot of coordination to keep enough fire in multiple directions to not get swarmed while moving towards the spawners.

>>16732361

No, I'm pretty sure it was 40. It was called Brutal Battlefield.

>>16732396

>It was called Brutal Battlefield.

yep, thats mission 39. the one with the swarm of drones/ants backed up with artillery frogs, later a swarm of spiders and to top things off, you have to fight never ending ants along with 2 queens and fucking red drones

fun mission.

>>16732551

>>16732341

For Brutal Battlefield you need to keep the NPC fencers alive. Also,at the start head towards their spawn on the left On inferno its in the right

If they die, you may aswell just restart because the red drones will just shit on you

>>16732148

I didnt die but my shitty fucking internet did.

Is the an air raid that works on flying units? Phobes spam didn't seem to help.

>>16733679

Miniguns and big aoe autocannons work if you dont shoot them while they are at full speed. I personally use the bulge laser S since you can aim it in real time and it lasts a fucking eternity

>>16733679

Try spritefall, strafing runs, missiles, or gunships.

>>16734221

click the (u) at the right of the filename

>>16734256

>File (hide): d91b15929631a76⋯.jpg (1.4 MB, 225x262, 225:262, use7zip.jpg) (h) (u)

click the "use7zip.jpg"

worked for me