0ec800 No.16711291
What kind of controllers are your preference?
If you game on PC, which controllers do you use?
f35c6f No.16711324
>stick for everything but 3d
>controller + keyboard for cuhrayzee
>stick + mouse for 2d twin stick shooters
better off mixing and matching
0ec800 No.16711334
>>16711324
Yeah, that's a good point. There's no one-size fits all for every game.
bf6165 No.16711344
I like good digital control and helpers (octagonal gates) to simulate digital control when analog is needed. Also a believer in limited face buttons. More buttons should be moved to the back of a controller where the rest of your fingers have access to them. Unfortunately not enough controller designers have understood this yet.
8f9063 No.16711347
>>16711291
I don't like the switch joycons so definitely avoid that.
c0e19b No.16711359
>>16711324
>mouse for twinstick shooters
hotline miami shitters are so embarrassing
7da83d No.16711398
>>16711291
Dualshock 4. It has solid build quality compared to its predecessor and has a gyroscope, which is something I have come to appreciate. I'd like it a lot more if it had a better trackpad because then emulating DS games would be that much better. It's unfortunate that it'll probably be dropped in the next version, but at least some of its DNA got into the Steam gamepad. I also wish it had face buttons so I could emulate PS2 games like Metal Gear and Ace Combat rather than switch over to my Dualshock 3.
1d53c2 No.16711403
>>16711398
This one.
The trackpad is super handy for navigating your OS before opening the games and also mess with unsupported UIs.
Of course, if the game has camera aiming for shooting or something that require similar precision, a mouse+keyboard is much better.
287a7f No.16711409
>>16711359
While twinstick is generally more fun, mouse is superior in that you don't need to shoot vaguely in the direction you want and then adjust for the next shot.
2678ee No.16711413
>>16711398
>>16711403
>Shilling for one of the worst gamepads in the market
Kill yourself
c0e19b No.16711415
>>16711409
>mouse is superior
wrong, mouse has no center pivot point making it inferior and even less responsive depending on distance from the turn around point. Stop using shitty input methods because it's all you have.
4b7536 No.16711417
>>16711415
>Stop using shitty input methods because it's all you have
>he can't adapt to what he has on hand
c6864b No.16711421
Go customize an Xbox controller design in designlabs and post what you did.
287a7f No.16711422
>>16711415
>center pivot point
Wat? I'm talking for replacing the right stick for shooting, not movement, you can't beat immediate pinpoint accuracy in any direction with a stick.
c0e19b No.16711424
>>16711417
I can, but that doesn't mean I'm going to waste my time using a weed whacker to pick up dog shit instead of using a pooper scooper.
You're using the weed whacker, and it's getting everywhere. Fix yourself.
>>16711422
>you can't beat immediate pinpoint accuracy in any direction with a stick.
You can, twin stick shooters are built around center pivot points. Few games are even built for free mouse aim and even those that are control far better when you have that point. A mouse does not have that. If you're playing hotline miami (play a better game please god) and your cursor is in the bottom left corner, but the next guy is in the top right corner, you need to completely re-orient your mouse position which depending on your sensitivity balance and your current physical location of your mouse on the pad, may require resetting.
You know what doesn't require resetting to that degree? Anything with pivoting. A d-pad, a stick, an analog stick even. What twin stick shooters have you played? Autism cactus and hotline?
287a7f No.16711429
>>16711424
>cursor in corner
Why the fuck would you do this when you only need to orient it around your character and extrapolate from there? This is why there is no travel time
7da83d No.16711431
>>16711403
>Of course, if the game has camera aiming for shooting or something that require similar precision, a mouse+keyboard is much better.
This is why I love gyroscopic aiming and hope to see more of it in things that aren't BotW. I saw a video about it being functional in certain single-player games thanks to the Steam API, so now I'm curious because that might be a pretty good alternative as it's far more ergonomic.
>>16711413
Everything with the exception of its gimmicks is perfectly fine. I don't know why you faggots constantly bitch about it.
c0e19b No.16711432
>>16711429
>Why the fuck would you do this when you only need to orient it around your character and extrapolate from there
aiming at anything not next to you? Taking advantage of the fact you have a fucking cursor you fucking retard. You don't have a pivot point, you're gonna be flicking around like a retard from there and lose your orientation if you are right on top of yourself for faster rotation.
4b7536 No.16711433
>>16711424
>he doesn't pick up dog shit with a weed whacker
>implying it's even all that difficult
>he has a meme weed whacker without a shield
f35c6f No.16711434
>>16711415
>>16711424
that's a tradeoff standpoint, the typical mouse is accurate has infinite max distance until the game zuccs you, centering is countered by moving the other way even harder. It's like saying the dpad is the best because it requires the smallest amount of movements, when the stick is actually the best because you have more control and four buttons is beyond the best.
287a7f No.16711438
>>16711432
>he can't draw a line from cursor/swiveling gun to the target
>he needs to drag the cursor to the target
Okay you know what, argument over, you win, just don't forget to replace your drool cup.
7da83d No.16711440
>>16711398
>I also wish it had analog face buttons
Forgot that part.
ed1190 No.16711444
>>16711431
>Everything with the exception of its gimmicks is perfectly fine. I don't know why you faggots constantly bitch about it.
It's because the gimmicks ruin a perfectly good controller. Who the fuck needs a touch-pad that takes up almost a third of the fucking controller?
c0e19b No.16711445
>>16711438
Glad you agree that you're using the retards input method. Time to upgrade to a real one.
>>16711434
>centering is countered by moving the other way even harder
You may not like it, but the reality is you can only focus on so many things at one time. Usually two. Beyond that your brain just sort of puts everything else in the background. In the few games that support a mouse in the twin stick shooter genre, they would all play better with a two stick setup because you aren't juggling the angle of your cursor, the position of your character, the position of the enemies, the environment around you, any other hazards, and whether or not your cursor is in a position that will hinder you, on a position on your mousepad that will require a reset, or if your sensitivity requires a reset to reach the point on the screen you want to be in.
Still waiting for the twin stick shooters you mousecucks have played.
7da83d No.16711449
>>16711344
>More buttons should be moved to the back of a controller where the rest of your fingers have access to them
I love that idea. I hope that becomes standardized next generation since there's not much else they can do to improve things.
c0e19b No.16711450
>>16711449
embracing gyro would be the best next step.
fce724 No.16711453
>>16711421
I actually ended up getting my own about 6 months ago, since my last Xbone Controller's right bumper wore out (probably from all the Devil May Cry) I had it since the Xbone launched so that one lasted me a good 5 years.
7da83d No.16711465
>>16711444
>Who the fuck needs a touch-pad that takes up almost a third of the fucking controller?
A decent trackpad would be fucking awesome for Vita and DS emulation and would allow for better interfacing with games designed with PC in mind like ARPGs.
>>16711450
That's something developers have to do. I was surprised to learn that Xbox and Playstationfags are not just resistant, but abhor the idea of any sort of motion. It's something I've really wanted for years and thankfully Nintendo has been wising up.
c0e19b No.16711470
>>16711465
Like most things in life, people don't know what they really want. They really really want gyro control and the only way to get it in there, much like right stick aiming on consoles, is to just make it happen.
f35c6f No.16711474
>>16711445
>post smash tv
>doesn't realize the screen is limited for his limited controls
>numerous of other modern twin stick shooters like area 4693, hong kong massacre, my friend pedro; the camera follows the cursor.
With Smash TV for example, your focus is limited by into one screen, meaning you never had to exercise the ability to focus on multiple things as hard as a game that has a bigger playing field and properly focusing on things that matter, ie. directly looking at enemy fire and yourself for long periods of time is a waste of effort
f35c6f No.16711485
>>16711476
>purikura daisakusen
>diagonal/isometric perspective
>not even an actual twin stick
Yeah I'm not falling for that you son of a bitch
1d53c2 No.16711486
>>16711431
>gyroscopic aiming
Nice for consoles, or for some rare games that have some aiming but the focus is much greater on the movement. But in most cases, on PC, it would still be better to use a good mouse.
>>16711409
>mouse is superior in that you don't need to shoot vaguely in the direction you want and then adjust for the next shot.
>>16711438
<implies that you shouldn't use a mouse to pinpoint the targets, but only to shoot vaguely in their direction
You're contradicting yourself, bro, that's cringe.
527edf No.16711490
>>16711449
The second series of xbone elite controllers have pedals in the back. But considering the disaster that was the first run, I don't have much confidence in them.
7da83d No.16711498
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16711470
I don't think I could ever go back to playing any sort of first or third person game if it didn't have gryoscopic support. I've been spoiled.
>>16711486
>Nice for consoles, or for some rare games that have some aiming but the focus is much greater on the movement. But in most cases, on PC, it would still be better to use a good mouse.
I would never play any multiplayer game with a gamepad, but I can totally see the appeal of playing a less intensive game that doesn't demand a fast reaction time.
f5938b No.16711503
why has nobody posted the Duke yet?
7da83d No.16711517
>>16711490
I mean, I like how it looks and that the paddle size can be adjusted to fit your hand, but I'm concerned that it's a little flimsy. It'd be better if they were fixed and had adjustable force.
527edf No.16711527
>>16711517
That's why I fear/expect. The idea is nice, but I don't expect any decent execution and build quality from them. The steam controller has pedals, right? How were those?
c7d840 No.16711553
>>16711291
I use a power A controller with custom thumbstick attachments that make them look like gamecube control sticks.
My only complaints are how the thumbstick attachments had a tendency of falling off when I had to spin and abuse my thumb sticks on Metal Gear Rising and it's a little hard to press up and left on the same time on the d-pad for fighting games.
But I'm more used to PS d-pads instead of this d-pad. I wish there a controller for PC that has the structure of a dual shock 2, but isn't cheap chink shit.
Second pic related is what I used before the power A. it wasn't too bad, I still have it as a back up, but after less than a few months of use the paint on the face buttons wore off so now its face buttons are blank normally the letters/symbols on face buttons are a part of the plastic instead of being paint, so they really cut corners on this and it had a problem with the RB getting stuck at random times which would often get me killed in a few games.
d6aeeb No.16711555
Wired 360 controller, i know it has a shit d-pad but i love it.
7da83d No.16711567
>>16711527
I wish I knew, I have the DS4. It looks like there are only two rather than four unfortunately.
9c3fb3 No.16711578
Only downside they have is that the D-Pad kind of sucks, had this for nearly a decade.
3c2bf4 No.16711678
>>16711578
The one controller has a better d-pad but they fuck up R2-L2. We'll never get a perfect controller.
7da83d No.16711713
>>16711678
So what are some thing the perfect controller needs?
>rechargeable battery
>wireless
>gyroscopic support I also think compass support might be useful
>traditional D-pad
>analog face and shoulder buttons
>four paddles
>trackpad yes, a good gamepad should have this
The biggest thing now is the ergonomics, since no one can seem to agree on which kind of placement is best, though you seem to be set on it being a hybrid of the 360 and One. A controller needs to either be specialized or have an adjustable casing or custom shell that can best suit the hand. I haven't taken a look at this yet, but it might be an interesting place to start.
aac84c No.16711717
>>16711578
I've burnt through two with heavy use. On my third now and my god is the 360 controller fucking perfect. I bought four on a sale to have a supply for when they inevitably stop making the things. Shame about the d pad, but everything else is worth it.
7da83d No.16711724
Is this design too much of a radical departure from the standard?
aac84c No.16711727
>>16711724
I wouldn't use it.
54b542 No.16711752
>>16711724
Most controllers already feel comically small in my hands. I can only imagine what that feels like if just a bit too small.
7da83d No.16711759
>>16711752
Yeah, I’ve never found a gamepad that is suitable for my hands. Joy-cons literally fit within the palm in my hand no matter how I turn them.
54b542 No.16711774
>>16711759
I've got long fingers and large palms, I wear XL gloves and have to shop around for ones that are not made for fat people hands. My Xbone controller starts to hurt my hands after 4-5 hours. As did my 360 controllers once I stopped growing.
I just want something that doesn't contort my fingers or forces me to not grip with my palms.
e6aae9 No.16711888
>>16711291
>If you game on PC, which controllers do you use?
Dualshock 3.
5d0c67 No.16711956
>>16711774
Have you tried using a duke?
e104aa No.16712061
>>16711888 checked
Best controller. The analog sticks are so much better than the DS4, the DS4 stick movement is very short and the actual stick is tiny as hell. Overall the DS3 is better, I cannot stand the Xbone and DS4 controllers I should have bought 3 DS3 controllers when they were still in production.
b52fd9 No.16712102
It usually depends on the game.
c89a2d No.16712119
>>16712061
You can still find them in production by a lot of third parties (mostly Chinese).
Only difference is, they remove all labeling to avoid any liability.
e104aa No.16712157
>>16712119
My autism doesn't like that. Are they actual genuine DS3's? or shitty cheap parts?
e104aa No.16712164
>>16712119
Watched a few jewtube vids, they feel cheaper and the analogs are a dead give away. I'd notice it right away and throw it in the garbage. polite sage
c89a2d No.16712176
>>16712157
>>16712164
If that's the case, the only other real alternative I can think of is one of the meta GameSir controllers.
https://gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads
Basically, they advertise them as capable of being used on almost anything. And it's made in Hong Kong (chinks I can at least trust).
12e550 No.16712206
>>16712176
The about page says hq and r&d are in china, they just say they have a location in HK, nothing about being manufactured there.
d51782 No.16712837
>>16712157
>Are they actual genuine DS3's? or shitty cheap parts?
>or
b2063c No.16712838
>he doesn't exclusively use a sega saturn controller for gaming
2678ee No.16712854
>>16711888 (checked)
Finally a good rec
DS4 faggots need to neck themselves, even Microshaft with all it's spic/nigger pandering managed to make a better gamepad than Soyny.
c7d840 No.16712860
>>16712176
>Turbo and clear buttons are where start and select would normally be
>Start and select off in the middle of nowhere
773186 No.16713038
Just want to say that the Wii U Pro Controller is better that the Switch Pro Controller.
a5fdc6 No.16713215
Don't know if anyone will much care, but 8bitdo's finally releasing that sn30 pro+ controller next month. It might be for those who like the PS4 layout but hate how cheap some of the components feel.
cf07e2 No.16713266
If my controller doesn't look like a phone I sell it
bd8a06 No.16713277
>>16713215
>really want to get an sn30 Pro controller
>see your post
>check online if there are any review models out there to see if there is some change in functionality
>see literally sameface soyfags with gamer paraphernalia walls promoting it
I mean I legit couldn't tell it was two different guys until I looked at the channel names
974dcb No.16713279
>>16713215
It's like a Classic Controller Pro, so it's probably comfy as fuck to use but way too pricey for now. I recently ordered a SN30 (the wired older version without handles) as they're cheaper now. I hope I'm not burning my money.
60e732 No.16713323
>>16713302
Whats wrong with this? Its actually good and cheap
8e0bba No.16713325
>>16713215
I'd care if it were corded. I have the wired SN30 Pro, and it's pretty decent. I hate fucking with Bluetooth and having to constantly recharge batteries for every fucking thing in my life.
9cec12 No.16713326
>>16713277
What a punch-able face that homo has. Holy shit.
4b2d38 No.16713328
Can we bring back controllers with 6 face buttons.
XYZ
ABC
0df79d No.16713331
>>16713277
>bought a Crissaegrim a couple years ago
>it's okay and looks really nice but the sticks aren't perfect and the shoulder buttons fucking suck
>see this
I am a retard goy who likes to throw my money at stupid shit I don't need, and you aren't helping me here
549c26 No.16713332
>>16713277
>Saw picture before post
Fuck, I had to go back and check just to make sure.
a5fdc6 No.16713341
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16713277
No review models yet, but they did release this little teaser for the PC software that allows you to customize the thing however you like.
8e0bba No.16713343
>>16713331
>the sticks aren't perfect
That's an understatement. The sticks are fucking awful, the d-pad has sharp corners, and the Bluetooth range is also abysmal. I got one and gave it away to a friend because I couldn't stand to use it.
At least it looks sexy and is really portable, but it's horrible to use.
dc9705 No.16713347
This is still the best pad ever made.
ffc5d9 No.16713378
>>16713323
>Its actually shit and cheap
Fixed.
4fa99b No.16713394
The 360 controller is still the best.
>>16711421
>>16711453
I think there's a default in the conception of the Xbox One controller, the LB and RB seem to break easilly.
b6dc14 No.16713453
>>16713341
It looks good but my SF30 Pro (similar model but without the handles) started playing up after a few months. The (properly red) A button began sticking and the analogue sticks starting feeling too soft and rubbery, almost as if they had melted slightly.
>>16713394
>The 360 controller is still the best.
I swear you trolls can't thicker every thread.
a5fdc6 No.16713488
>>16713453
You might have the initial pro model, they refreshed most of their controllers when they introduced the Gameboy color variant and from what I've heard, these refreshed models are of higher quality. No issues from anybody I know of who got the refreshed model.
49c66b No.16714557
My autism is kicking in again, recommend me a pad I haven't tested yet wired and under 60 bucks is the only requirement.
>>16712206
That's because they're just branded OEM parts
See Genesis P65 / Konix Warblade
01502f No.16714563
What's a good relatively cheap controller with symmetric sticks? I like the Xbone controller as far as asym goes but it's shit for old games
133f14 No.16714569
>>16711413
Its decent. Not best nor worst. Xbox 360 controller was best for a while, and got replaced with DS4 as the most "normal" controller to own.
There's one problem however, poor connection that makes it constantly fall off. I owned two and they both have occasional disconnections near micro-usb port. Because they use same port fucking mobile phones do, and its unreliable.
49c66b No.16714572
>>16714563
Nacon Compact Wired / Hori EDGE 301 / HORI Mini PS4
8e2c93 No.16714577
>>16713302
Gonna have to go with this old reliable. For the $10 I spent it's done a great job in the 3 years I've owned it.
Xbone Gen 2 controllers are great too, but expensive.
dd467f No.16714579
>>16713302
I have this and a 8bitdo SNES controller. While the 8bitdo is good, I just don't feel comfy playing SM64 with it. I prefer pic related for that kind of a game.
bd8a06 No.16714604
>>16714579
So I take it you don't play n64 games.
7b7fba No.16714620
>>16714569
Mini usb isn't much better both are shit. Both the ps4 and xbone controllers suffer from the micro usb. The next ones better have usb C. It doesn't have the durability issue and is easier to use.
Xbone controller is my go to for pc it just works no driver nonsense or compatibility issues. Its the most comfortable and has an aux port. They can also be gotten dirt cheap around $20-30 bucks which is what most of all these terrible budget pc controllers go for.
521d07 No.16714672
>>16711291
I use a Nintendo switch controller with a $20 adapter that allows me to use it wirelessly with PC or PS4 (if i had one). The controller is absolutely made of Nintendium, is comfortable in my adult hands, has a reasonable D- Pad, and enough buttons for PS2 emulation, I don't find the analog inputs other than sticks necessary. Works great, and has amazing battery life.
b52fd9 No.16714682
That being said, (It depends) I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Absolute best controller for me theoretically would be the steam controller with a Genesis dpad, and not being haphazardly glued to steam.
Maybe throw in a different thumbstick too, but I'm kinda okay with the stock one
552129 No.16714946
How do I fix my xbone controller's right bumper and dpad? The bumper requires slightly extra pressure to make contact so when I'm holding it it will sometimes release randomly, same with left on my dpad. Really annoying in sidescrollers since I prefer dpad for movement and always bind chargeable attacks to right bumper.
5a454b No.16715202
>not just using the keyboard like a real man
f22ade No.16717021
>>16713194
Did someone say daily dose?
6df425 No.16717032
>>16717021
Appreciation physician.
05f703 No.16717088
>>16713347
Am I the only only who liked the pad and buttons on the original big Saturn controller instead? It felt more responsive, accurate, and no spongey feeling. It was easier to do Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu in Street Fighter Alpha 1 and 2 with the original.
29edd0 No.16717137
>>16712061
Thumbsticks break down easily an DS3.
29edd0 No.16717153
Wolverine Tournament seems like the best controller. Normal console controllers are decent but recent gen has terrible connectors. I also hate the wireless meme.
9d6ebd No.16717423
I have a particular issue with Windows 10 and the XBOX One S controller, but it's so specifically niche that I have no idea if any autists would happen to know how to fix it. I have a Linux setup with Windows as a VM with passthrough. Windows has the driver installed, and when I plug the controller into USB and tell KVM to "plug it into" Windows, Windows will make the device in sound, then device removed sound and nothing else. The device manager says it's not plugged in either. Nearly every article online is horseshit about Macrosoft's controller being plug 'n play for USB because my Windows laptop did the same shit for a while before it just suddenly started working. Any idea what's going on here?
49c66b No.16717433
>>16717423
Quick google search indicates either set your VM to use that port as an USB 2.0 one, or set that USB controller to be purely exclusive to the VM instead of just the peripheral plugged in it.
Or use bluetooth
Seems like it's a common problem regardless
6eba7b No.16718118
>>167146721
btw, the switch pro controller works with Bluetooth out of the box, and steam has complete support for it.
I use the switch and Wii u pro controller, depending on the game. The d-pad location on the Wii U's is perfect for me.
6eba7b No.16718135
>>16714672
>>16718118
Meant to reply here but typo'd like a retard.
f7a7d0 No.16718618
>>16717423
You might wanna pick up a cheap PCI USB card and pass that to the VM
338b3f No.16718750
>>16711413
theyre often $30. there is no better gamepad for $30. please prove me wrong.
814b2c No.16719846
>>16711888
DS 3 support on PC is complete shit, even a DS 2 with adapters is better than that garbage, for years people had to install Chinese malware just to get it working, and nowadays ain't so much better, you still resort to a bulky and messy installer that emulates a layer between your PC and the DS 3 just so that it works without issues, and even then some games and emus fail to detect the dpad.
3838fd No.16719869
Does anybody know where to get any good gamecube controllers? Bought a couple on Amazon but both of them don't work in the first controller slot so pretty useless for me. Both work in the other controller slots just not the first. Have an official one that still works in that slot but it is about as old as the console itself.
ffc5d9 No.16719904
>people actually Logishit
>>16714577
<input lag
<square analog holders
<floaty mushy dpad
>this old reliable
3 years should be about right for your dpad to stop registering directions.
>>16714579
>I prefer pic related for that kind of a game.
My adolescences
00b4d8 No.16719967
>>16711324
What about first person shooty games, isn't using a mouse and keyboard just flat out better, I mean how many pc games even allow for the use of a controller without using a outside program?
e2c848 No.16720094
>>16711517
I hate to shill for MS but after using one for a while being seeing the money black hole that is cutsom GCC, I think I get what they were going for with the elites. There's still a laundry list of issues (cheap plastic spring bumpers, insane snapback from the metal sticks, micro usb that's prone to failure, no bluetooth) but the rest of it has been pretty good. The non-bumper build quality feels nice and hefty, setting a paddle to jump to free up my right thumb for camera control made 3D platformers a lot comfier, hair trigger control makes wavedashing a lot easier, and the pins on the usb cord that came with it have lasted longer than the micro usb port itself. Still embarrassing how bad the launch was but hopefully they can learn with the second one or at least iron out the production kinks after fucking over the first run.
>>16711553
Power a isn't half bad either, the programmable buttons on the back get the job done and everything feels good enough. I only have one as a backup so I wouldn't expect it to last a lot of use but the price is so cheap that it hardly matters.
