f637a3 No.16711225
Any card games that are worth trying out? It feels like after Hearthstone, the card game genre got a bit more popular as of late. Quite a few devs have been trying to capitalize on the card craze by making card games of their own.
0a192f No.16711227
I personally like yugioh, there's plenty of simulators out there that are 100% completely free like percy, plus that new banlist looks fucking fun especially for some of my pet decks that I refuse to not try and get working in every format.
4da2e7 No.16711229
I've only ever enjoyed it as a minigame
a727e1 No.16711231
>slay the spire
Fun little single player (((roguelike))) where you build a deck with different cards and mechanics. Has a pretty active modding community with some decent mods
>Eternal
The most mtg card game online without being mtg. Free to play is pretty decent and most meta decks are affordable. Contains an actual draft mode where you can keep the cards you draft
3b8e8f No.16711783
If the Force of Will online client ever got updated and wasn't complete shit I'd say give that a try but it's been over a year I think without an update. I think it might be on untap. in though and maybe tabletop simulator but I wouldn't know.
I haven't played yugioh since 2008 but there's usually a thread up on here so I assume it's still at least moderately playable.
Magic for all its faults still has some fun formats like legacy and edh and untap and Xmage are both pretty good clients for it. Don't play Arena and don't play Magic Online. Both are absolute trash in every conceivable way.
Hex has a good amount of singleplayer content and if you spend some money for a deck to grind with I think you can still make a decent competitive deck with not a huge amount of grinding. I haven't played since probably January of last year so that might have changed since then.
>>16711231
>Eternal
Isn't that just a shittier Hearthstone?
24c977 No.16711819
>>16711783
i tried xmage and the interface was total garbage, maybe i'll try it again. there was another client called i think cockatrice (?) that i tried and somehow the development team lost the entire archive of card art ruining the game. even though any random user that had it cached from before could just send them their copy. complete brain damage ruined my perspective on free magic clients.
i'm convinced arena coming out ruined core set 2020, i havent seen a single stand-out card from the set besides the meh chandra planeswalkers.
24c977 No.16711824
>>16711819
also it goes without saying but never ever ever ever ever play hearthstone. i played that meme game from 2014-2018 and i can tell you that every aspect of that game top to bottom beginning to end is endless, cruel torment in the depths of hell. there's no light at the end of the tunnel. run for your life as far away as you can possibly get, and uninstall battle.net so you can't even see the icon anymore. i don't care about your stupid fucking brood war and world of warcraft, go buy a disc copy of brood war and play a private server for god's sake. that game ruined my life. many thousands of hours wasted.
3b8e8f No.16711833
>>16711819
Core Set 2020 has actually had a pretty big impact on the standard meta already. Sorin and the one-drop vampire have made BW vampires a high tier deck just to name a couple cards.
249844 No.16711961
I don't like how yugioh became a solitaire game and every turn lasts atleast 2 minutes at best. I miss the simple vanilla and GX era when not every card had fucking novels written on it that basically amounts to:
>This card is unaffected and can't be destroyed by card effects or battle. When summoned, you can special summon 2 monsters from your hand, deck, graveyard. Choose one of your cards removed from the game, shuffle it back to the deck, and draw 2 cards. Destroy one of your opponents monsters, and deal damage equal to the destroyed monster's ATK and DEF combined. When this card is face-up on the field, your opponent must discard 2 cards from their hand without activating their effects. When this card battles an opponent with higher ATK, discard 1 card. You take no damage from this battle, and draw 1 card.
50f224 No.16711968
I will never stop shilling this. You don't even need to know japanese to play it if you don't care for the dialog, just use Capture2Text with google translate to figure out what the cards and status effects do.
57927b No.16711971
>>16711225
you made this thread just to show off your edit
3b8e8f No.16712022
>>16711961
I prefer a good amount of complexity over the first couple years of the game when it was just jam the best spells and biggest beaters into your deck and win but it certainly has gotten super bloated. Magic is has been slowly developing a similar issue wherein every single creature has a spell tacked on and creatures are outright better than nearly every spell. It's one of the reasons legacy is the best format because older spells are still the strongest cards.
>>16711968
I'll have to give this a try. The Rance games are good so I expect this is pretty good as well.
8af8ab No.16712336
I'm very disappointed with Steamworld Quest.
>8 cards per character
>only three active characters at any given time
>any character that gets knocked out disables the use of their cards, but you still get to draw their cards while they're down
>can only have like 6 cards in your hand at any time
>you don't discard them on turn ends, but you get one/two rerolls a turn
>you only get to play three cards a turn barring a certain buff
>the more interesting cards need a resource that's generated by 0 cost attack/buff cards
>meaning of the 21 cards your deck has a good chunk of them has to be boring 0 cost cards otherwise you'll spend multiple turns not being able to play anything and rerolling one or two cards every turn
Everything else about the game was nice, it's just that the fundementals of the combat rubbed me the wrong way. It just didn't leave much room for creativity especially compared to Slay the Spire where you could make some hackjob deck out of whatever you're given and usually get to finish the game unless you're up against that act 3 boss that shits all over decks that rely on playing many cards a turn
29570d No.16712385
Is there anything else like Runespell out there? It has sort of poker based combat. I haven't really run into anything quite like it.
59984d No.16713306
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
There's a mod on ygopro 2 that allows you to play duel masters. The link comes with a pre-installed version of ygopro 2 so you don't have to download and install the assets yourself.
https://mega.nz/#!3lwWWSAY!HfC57Ekev67VwhKDm8z9RT9tn7snO-xzIp9EukW8by4
043dc6 No.16713336
>>16711824
actually Hearthstone got better recently, it of all things somehow has the best plot Blizzard has shit out in a decade and a half
it's definitely not something I would recommend anyone dive in and play though since the barrier of entry has become ridiculously high
043dc6 No.16713342
>>16711961
it's not too bad if you either play a game with AI like tag force special or play against a rare opponent who is both very knowledgeable and skilled at the game without wanting to win the very first turn by playing half the cards in their deck
5e2264 No.16713366
>>16713306
>Duel Masters
Fuck yes I wish this shit didn't die in the west.
0a192f No.16713471
>>16713306
> ygopro 2
that would be nice if it wasn't completely broken on my end
6e6b28 No.16713689
>>16713366
Blame that shitty anime dub only good for that one hot as fuck girl that's apparently part of the friends.
6ac6e5 No.16713732
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16713689
Not gonna lie I like the style.
59984d No.16714062
>>16713471
>>16713689
It's not stated exactly stated why it died in the west as there are numerous possible factors. For example the bombazar masters controversy would be one of them. It's was a card that could net you an extra turn the moment you used it. It was so broken at the time that even cards made to counter it had to include in one way. So from that point takera tommy, the company responsible for the game formed the games ban list and bombazar was permanently banned in the premium hall of fame where it still resides. The era of bombazar was so infamous that the game was call bombazar masters for a time being. It's very likely a similar predicament affected the game in america and by extension everywhere outside japan as well.
178033 No.16714075
None. Card games are shit.
3b3bf9 No.16714086
>>16713689
>>16713366
>>16714062
I think we can blame this shitty cartoon for that too.
5e2264 No.16714375
>>16714062
>Cards that give you an extra turn
Why do people make this dumb ass mistake every time? It's always broken and even when it somehow isn't it there is just no way to make it fun for the player who has to sit there while you go twice.
Pic related got officially reworded into near irrelevancy after dominating the meta for a short time immediately following its release.
08aadd No.16714385
>>16714375
>Only available if you preordered a box at like $160 USD
>Not available in any other booster, set, deck, or promotion
>Average cost was $50 USD for a few months, now it's settled down to "only" $35
>Fucked up the low powered format for 2 years
>Going to spike in price after a number of years because low print run
>Magic's shitty online vidya game actually banned it for being too toxic to new players >but its fine for paper play
26689e No.16714393
>>16714375
Dragonball Z has a meta?
b14515 No.16714506
>>16711225
>I want to make a thread about card games. Where shall I post it? Hmm… Perhaps /tg/? No! Certainly not! I know, I will post it on /v/ - Video Games!
043dc6 No.16714509
>>16714506
counter-bumped, there are hundreds of good video card games
043dc6 No.16714510
>>16714509
well maybe not hundreds but at least a dozen or so
e9a653 No.16714575
>>16714385
>take an extra turn
hahah what
828af2 No.16715991
8d6214 No.16716419
>>16711783
Hex is super dead. The single player content was nice but it never really finished development. It looks like kickstarter money ran out and they jumped ship.
08aadd No.16716449
>>16714575
Late game, once you have most of your shit set up, extra turns are disgustingly effective. Early on, it's not a big deal, it usually amounts to one more land drop or a few life points difference, but later on, it turns into a self-feeding mechanism. Extra turns almost always cause a lot of disruption to a format if they're too freely available, and they don't crop up in Standard too often (latest 2 years of sets), there's usually a bit of spacing between effects
cc6931 No.16716516
>>16711968
Or just learn Japanese.
700a5a No.16716521
>>16713336
>Wanting to play a card game where the prime mechanic is RNG even thought card games are already pretty random.
d86e55 No.16716554
>>16714385
And I thought the Timetwister + Time Walk combo was broken.
def345 No.16716574
>>16714385
>Literally beacon of tomorrows, except 1 cheaper and instant speed.
08aadd No.16716592
>>16716574
Beacon of Tomorrows targets too, so it's more interactive.
50669d No.16716610
>>16716592
if you change your opponent's Beacon target to yourself, do you take two turns? It says "after this one" which would be when you normally take your turn anyway.
08aadd No.16716621
>>16716610
Yes, because it's "target player", which becomes you. You'd take the extra turn, then your normal turn.
In a different situation, the opponent casts Nexus of Fate, and you Commandeer it. You are the controller of the spell, so you would still take the extra turn, and it would shuffle into the owner's library (the opponent in this case – you control the spell, but they own the card)
def345 No.16716626
>>16716621
I don't think that's what "owner" means in context, but shuffling an opponent's card into your deck would be very bad anyway.
08aadd No.16716639
>>16716626
No, that's exactly what it means
24c977 No.16716645
>>16716626
you're not supposed to shuffle other people's cards into your deck because it makes it hard to separate the cards after each game. like if you gain control of all of your opponent's creatures during a game and they die, they go to the opponent's graveyard. "owner" means "the person who owns the card as a physical product".
08aadd No.16716677
>>16716645
>When the autist bogs down the multiplayer game and uses a plastic dinosaur to represent a creature token
>Tries to be "funny" by inserting it between cards in his library when he has to shuffle it into his deck
def345 No.16716700
>>16716639
>>16716645
>legal ownership of the card is irrelevant to the game rules.
My post was contesting what "owner" means, rather than who it applies to. The rules are pretty clear but >>16716621 reads as either a tautology (they are the owner because they are the owner), or implies that legal ownership is the basis. On second thought though I don't think that post was meant to say how ownership is determined at all, it was simply stating the fact that they are the owner. I wasn't so much wrong as reading the post wrong.
b2f4e4 No.16716881
>>16711225
If you mean cardgames you can play on the PC, Cockatrice. MTG is peak cardgame and if you really want there are ways to play other TCG on it.
16af4a No.16716888
>>16711225
Hearthstone is worth it if you never pay and thrill on beating those that do. So many edgelords with super decks unable to figure out that most of their opponents are just using decks to fulfill a daily quest.
I like card games that involve other aspects of other genres. Culdcept games involve board game elements and are super comfy. Neverland Card Battles for the PSP was good too, same for MSG ACID if you can stand the story.
f295aa No.16716892
>>16716677
Tokens cease to exist as a state based action immediately when they hit a graveyard, and never enter a library.
f52aa1 No.16716915
>>16713342
>play against a rare opponent who is both very knowledgeable and skilled at the game without wanting to win the very first turn by playing half the cards in their deck
I try to be that kind of guy when playing on YGOPRO simulator – I think the easiest way to do it is to limit yourself to only 1 copy of negation and ONLY including it if it's archetype specific (like Champion's Vigilance, the new Glad Beast, – just cards that can't be slotted in mindlessly and would be impractical/shit to have more than 1 of). That way, it feels more like a natural ebb and flow rather than "I got my board up so you don't get to do shit anymore". Generic shit like Ash Blossom is cancerous for just how completely it shuts down slower decks, though Kaijus are a necessary evil if only for how bullshit cards like Master Peace are otherwise.
If Yugioh has to be solitaire, the least it can be is a game where both players have the opportunity to solitaire and overcome the other if they can.
31b0c8 No.16717252
>>16716881
>MTG is peak cardgame
>>16716888
>Hearthstone is worth it
Holy mother of god, I think I'm going to go deaf from how loud I am screaming internally. This goes beyond whether or not this thread belongs here, everyone with video games as a hobby should be banned from ever talking about tabletop games.
08aadd No.16717376
>>16717252
To play devil's advocate (because I have a lot of sunken money in Magic, but less than $5,000 worth of cards):
Do you think that, at its golden age, Magic is the most fair, skill intensive /tg/ CCG? Let's say that you make a format that exists in a vacuum, isn't hit by power creep etc etc. Is the core gameplay good?
e9f744 No.16717379
>>16717252
<MTG is peak cardgame
Most of /v/ likes Yugioh better because it has a bigger vidya presence. There is a reason why most card games use MTG as a template over Yugioh. Newer TCGs try to fix MTG rather than build off Yugioh. Yugioh is one of the uglier TCGs right now along with DBS because it using random clips from the anime as card art.
>>16711961
>I miss the simple vanilla and GX era when not every card had fucking novels written on it that basically amounts to:
It is a result of them refusing to use keywords.
<Flying does what? No one has time to remember that. Why can't it be simple like this card game with cards' on its fifth errata.
>>16714062
Duel Masters is still doing OK in Japan so I think that it is mostly the shitty dubs's fault.
>>16716449 img5
>takes 15 of your turns to summon under normal circumstances
08aadd No.16717385
>>16717379
>Normal circumstances
Anon, anyone who runs this card isn't playing it fairly.
08aadd No.16717389
>>16717385
>>16717379
Oh sorry, I see what you mean. You meant that the extra turn is irrelevant because nobody ever gets 15 mana to actually cast it, my bad.
I like to use it with Nahiri, the Harbinger in a Restore Balance / Cascade deck
08aadd No.16717411
>>16717401
>Fastbond
>Only legal in Vintage (restricted)
I mean if you're in that format, you might as well just do pic related
def345 No.16717466
>>16717389
There are lots of ways to get tons of extra mana, especially colorless mana, especially for a one-time use. Not sure what's current.
043dc6 No.16717536
>>16717533
also last card is just a place holder, there are many alternatives, you basically just want something able to deal 5 damage that you can cast without killing yourself
e9f744 No.16717604
>>16717536
>also last card is just a place holder, there are many alternatives, you basically just want something able to deal 5 damage that you can cast without killing yourself
>alternative
That usually means that the first example actually works. It doesn't. Mana abilities refers to abilities that create mana. I'm aware that colorless mana production is common. I just reminded of a Yugioh player talking about MTG cards and having no idea how mana cost works. On a side note, Yugioh has yet to go full art when every other on-going TCG has already.
b2f4e4 No.16717612
>>16717604
>Yugioh has yet to go full art when every other on-going TCG has already.
Personally I'd give that a point in YGO's favor. I don't like full art cards, but I guess I might be the odd one there.
043dc6 No.16717617
>>16717604
so why doesn't it work? are you retarded or something?
e9f744 No.16717621
>>16717617
What is the relevancy of the third card?
043dc6 No.16717622
>>16717621
>needing it to be explained to you
emrakul can't deal 20 damage in one turn on its own
b2f4e4 No.16717637
>>16717617
Because Insatiable Souleater doesn't have a mana ability, so the example you provided doesn't work.
e9f744 No.16717640
>>16717622
Is that what you were aiming for? Because does it matter if you get an extra turn and destroy 6 permanents before each attack? Your opponent is already fucked.
e9f744 No.16717659
>>16717637
I misread the first card because I thought that was why the third card was suppose to be relevant. However, Channel just meant that you may activate the ability when you are able to activate a mana ability not when you activate a mana ability.
b2f4e4 No.16717676
>>16717659
Yeah, so you'd need a card with a mana ability on the field so you'd meet the able condition. For his required damage, just run something to give Emrakul haste for cheap.
e9f744 No.16717758
>>16717676
>Yeah, so you'd need a card with a mana ability on the field so you'd meet the able condition.
I'm pretty sure that it is timing thing like "activate this ability anytime you can cast a sorcery".
3b8e8f No.16717833
>>16717533
>banned in all formats
>restricted in vintage
>not just playing shops
>>16717676
Just fucking play sneak and show at that point
f39914 No.16717854
>>16717833
The day Emrakul was banned in legacy was the day my winrate went up about 30%.
08aadd No.16718657
>>16717854
Emrakul got unbanned though
3b8e8f No.16718794
>>16718657
I was referring to Channel
08aadd No.16718813
>>16718794
I'm retarded today
e9f744 No.16719895
>>16718657
For those that don't know, Vintage is the format with the least restrictions. As far as I know, it only bans silver boarder cards, dexterity cards, and cards that deal with ante. Legacy doesn't allow super broken cards like Black Lotus or Time Walk.
Honestly, this isn't impressive in a format where two turn wins is the norm and one turn wins isn't rare.
Funny enough I can't find subs of Duel Masters just a dub. The new cartoon didn't help the game. WotC patented "tapping" so other TCGs use the word "rest/unrest".
bb8b0a No.16720005
>>16716574
nexus can never be milled, discarded, and they cant respond by exiling your graveyard because it never hits the graveyard. the only way to stop it is a dissipate effect
08aadd No.16720049
>>16720005
You should be able to Hinder it to the bottom of their library.
