/v/ - Video Games

>>16711132

>What is the appeal of the so-called 'endless' video game genre?

To have fun you bleeding autist

They're pretty much all designed to have to many uncontrollable variables that no matter how terrible you are the player can always just make a plausible excuse for their loss and not feel bad while any win will be totally and completely all them. Digital ego stroking.

>>16711142

More like

>why do people eat shit and pretend it's beef stroganoff?

>>16711153

Oh gee, I guess quake, and TF2, and CS are all shit now. Thanks for enlightening me OP.

>>16711153

Your description also fits fighting games sans the teams part so better be careful or your trigger a large amount of autists here. Also >>16711163

>>16711163

>>16711165

You could've at least pretended to read the OP you know.

>>16711132

If your playing an 'endless' game competitively that's where its retarded, especially with a game like League of Legends. Despite it not being fun there is an addictive quality to it, and the higher your rank is the more you get to jerk yourself off to the fact that you can play a videogame.

>>16711169

What OP said applies to pretty much all multiplayer games. This is fucking stupid and so are you.

>>16711173

I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. Are the devs of RWR changing things drastically with every balance patch and adding paid cosmetics every update? If not then it doesn't really apply, dude.

>>16711132

This is the concept that fits the games as a service model the most. More or less a cage where the monkeys inside are grateful for the crumbs tossed their way by the developers, just look at Overwatch.

The appeal is obviously playing the game because they consider it to be fun, beating others and getting better while being validated for your performance (usually increases in rank)

>>16711248

has gdc ever contributed to anything in the gaming industry the last few years or is it just a circlejerk of "game developers"?

>>16711132

>why do people enjoy getting better at things and competing

Golly gee willicker, I sure do hope one day this mystery will be revealed. Neck yourself.

>>16711132

You could have said something half-way intelligent and discussed the obvious problems of engaging in entertainment that is inherently repetitive, but you went full-retard and convinced yourself that anyone plays video games to reach an end-goal.

>>16711289

Are you implying there isn't an end goal in video games?

>to complete all of the levels / get to the credits

>to get all achievements

>to see all of the story

These are perfectly normal end goals for a video game.

>>16711332

Can there also not be floating goals like real life? Constant improvement for example. Or what if games add NEW end goals to work to? New gear, new ranks, new characters, etc.

>>16711132

Here's this video I was just linked

Note also: The constant updates of games as a service serve as a substitute for the added content that would come from mod support, which games as a service is antithetical to.

>>16711132

t. a faggot that never played a multiplayer game that isn't co-op.

>>16711277

>Playing video games to dick measure

The case of the most able disabled.

>>16711365

>even renaming the gif each thread

I'd be impressed if I hadn't already been through this shit with goatse

>>16711460

OP never said anything about story, you retard. The implication that every single player game shoves story up our ass all the time is retarded. Stop playing shitty games.

Autistic people like the exact same thing over and over. So they play the same game over and over.

>>16711685

I thought it was going to be about games like Minecraft or Terraria.

>>16711685

The term "endless" doesn't even really describe what OP's talking about. Every individual game of CS:GO or Dota or whatever has a very defined endstate. Destroy the ancient in Dota, win X matches in CS, etc. Meanwhile Tetris actually is endless, and OP's (stupid) opinion probably applies more to stuff like Tetris as opposed to Dota etc.

>>16711697

Tetris has a limit, the game would overflow and crash

>>16711132

It's not "endless" games, it's games as a service.

I know Ross tried his best to redirect the term to his own crusades of online-only games, but from the companies' standpoint, GaaS is exactly what OP is talking about and nothing else.

>>16711132

Even if the devs stopped updating the games, they might still be played.

Let's think a bit outside of the box, why do people play chess, even though it's always the same "map" and "minions"? Why do people play card games such as poker or macao, even though it's always the same 52 cards? Why do people play snooker or biliard, even though it's always the same table, balls and rules?

Surely it's not to become the number one player, especially for more relaxed games such as macao. Surely it's not to win a prize, sure there are competitions, either locally or internationally, but a lot of people just play it casually, with no money on stake, they don't even have a ranking system. You, personally, might not even enjoy all these activities/games, but you have to admit that some people do find them entertaining, either as a way to socialize, or to test their skills, or maybe they really enjoy the gameplay, even tough there is no end to it, I mean after you win a game of poker, you either play it again or go to another game. The same way, you can look at all these multiplayer games, that do not have a true ending.

>See thread name

>Think it's about Endless space and legend

>It's some autist asking why people play multiplayer games that don't have a credits screen

They do it because they find the games fun you autist, fun like I may have had with this thread if it was about the Endless series instead of more whining about peoples shit taste for liking MOBA garbage.

>>16712058

Don't worry pal, there will be a Chess Battle Royale by the end of the year.

>>16712067

What's with people not even attempting to read the OP?

You don't have to finish them and sometimes it's easier to pick it up and play for a few minutes any time you want without worrying about finishing anything.

>>16712100

You know you made someone assmad when they pull the class goon "make the same post you did but replace a few words" shtick.

>>16712104

Nigger, the OP makes no sense and is asking to be mocked. It might as well have said 'why do people have bad taste?'

>>>/v/16712132

This is advanced shittershattering.

>>16711132

Why do people continue to play games like tennis or chess?

>>>/v/16712139

Being illiterate is no excuse.

>>16712215

Are you shitposting on purpose, dude?

>The only factor that can end the game is you when you grow bored of it

This goes for everything in existence, you retard. I'm talking about how these games get popular in the first place and manage to maintain a playerbase of hundreds of thousands when the gameplay is repetitive, most likely done better by older games, and also some form of micro-transactions or a similarly greedy business practice is very likely to be in place.

>b-but playing with friends is f-f-fun!

So is everything else in existence, not just video games. You can't use that argument.

>you're also late to the party

One can argue this has been going on for a decade or so but just now it has gotten noticeably worse and now every AAA game developer seems to be doing it, and worst of all, they're succeeding.

>durr I'll just continue playing what I enjoy and spending money when I deem appropriate even though I'm encouraging bad business practices! Mind your own beeswax, dude!

It's shit like this that ensures the overall game quality through time is a downward spiral, not upward.

>>16711132

You mean an ACTUAL game and not an interactive story?

>>16711332

I'm saying no one plays games to reach the end-goal you dense fucker. They play the game for the actual content. Which is why it doesn't matter if the game doesn't actually have an ending. It can be a problem though if that means they are basically playing the same bit of content over and over instead of using that time to play multiple different games, which can be more rewarding.

>>16711132

It's called "match-based" games, anon.

And people like it because they find the basic gameplay loop fun, while the match-systems means they aren't locked into decisions they've made prior and each match is an entirely new experience (of the same 30 second loop)

There were match-based games before (((automatic matchmaking))) and (((micro-transactions))), like Unreal Tournament or Quake.

>>>/v/16712650

Fuck off back to trannypol.

>>16711132

Someone already said chess - It's just fun to play those games and they don't need really need to be changed or all that new all the time. In Counter Strike I don't even really play different maps, I'll just go for a few rounds of Dust 2. It doesn't matter because the experience isn't based on novelty and not story driven either. On the other hand, the experience can be rich in variety as those games can typically be played in many different ways.

>>16711132

>wahhh I'm """""""""""""""retarded"""""""""""""""

>wahhh I need cutscenes, multiple maps and progression in chess otherwise why would you play it

>the worst part …

is that you're alive.

Fucking idiot.

>>16721213

Excellent argument to the contrary, my friend. OP has been thoroughly BTFO’d. I’ll also be incorporating the tactical argument of simply not reading all of the OP’s post in the next thread, as it seems to do wonders for everyone.

Are you gonna buy the next Chess DLC? I hear its gonna be l33t with new epic skins for kings and knights. Because chess is such a shit game at its base, I’m glad that its being patched up with new rules constantly that keep changing the meta and forcing players to stay on track of things. It’s artificial strategizing and content like that which makes Chess so great.

oh wait

>>16721568

you're being facetious, but Fairy Chess is actually pretty cool

>>16721568

Maybe if OP which is you, ip hopping nigger didn't base the crux of his argument on such a stupid fucking thing then people would be willing to read the rest. All he (you) wants to really talk about is muh dlc and patches, which is topic enough on its own.

>>16711526

Yo tell that to Melee.

A long time ago games came out that were so good you didn't need updates to play them for years.