94e910 No.16698875
Which one of the Sierra's city builders is your favorite?
Do you complete campaigns or do you build only on peaceful maps?
What's your opinion on Caesar IV and Children of the Nile?
I like making big ass city in Caesar III until i hit data limit or get bored and download some custom maps. There's also new open source port of Caesar III called "julius" (with linux/switch/vita support).
cf9b42 No.16698878
>>16698875
lol just like Sseth videos! black men funny!
94e910 No.16698884
>>16698878
Fuck off with your ironic cuckchan tier reply, i actually got into Caesar recently, not inspired by some e-celeb crap.
e967d0 No.16698892
I'm stuck in Caesar III's Syria mission. It's bit of a pain to deal with parthians, kikes and borderline unreasonable demands in domestic goods.
What's the best way to deal with logistics in Caesar III? Is it better to have multiple warehouses scattered all around the city or just to have some central warehouses near production facilities? In my experience, there is often a risk that traders end up doing pointless supply runs, meaning that they go fetch some goods, and by the time they get to warehouse or granary there is fuck all for them because granaries and warehouses nearer to the production facilities are getting prioritized.
Also, I'd like to remind me everyone that you can play Caesar III with open source version of the engine;
https://github.com/bvschaik/julius
94e910 No.16698907
>>16698892
You are aware about right click setting that allows you to select which goods warehouse should get? Accepted goods get stored by passing by workers, "getting goods" option allows you to prioritize warehouse workers to actually deliver goods to warehouse. Same with granaries.
Build roads efficiently and use gatehouses to keep non-destination workers from using them. Centralize your production in one place, while having separate warehouses "getting goods" near place where you need them. I deliver pottery and furniture this way to far off located city blocks, as well as prioritize delivering wheat in granaries.
Also always develop only one type of food, and deal with second type of food only when you stabilized intake of first one.
94e910 No.16698915
Also good idea if you have problems with trade, place warehouses where traders pass by, and force them to only "get goods" that you want to sell. Honestly i never had troubles with market as soon as i stabilize production. I don't even tax people if market is well.
In case of civilian city markets, get additional warehouses and granaries with prioritized goods that you want them to sell near their points of interest.
Sometimes you have to make multiple "getting" granaries close to shops, and only one that's accepting near farms.
d57b24 No.16701002
>>16698884
There's literally nothing wrong in being inspired by some e-celeb to play some 20+ years old game, newer games though that's a whole different story.
Anyhow, I've head that Monopoly Tycoon is pretty tight but I've never played it, can anyone else confirm it?
94e910 No.16701272
My current shitcity with shit food distribution on custom map with constant invasions. Nothing is well. Map maker forbid all sorts of farms on this map except for vines and olives, so i have to survive on fish and imported fruit while caesar right now wants me to give him 32 units of vegetables out of my ass.
2bd981 No.16701293
>>16701002
Played it way back in the day and it was strangely addictive, but it gets old somewhat quick. It's actually worth a download
909fc9 No.16701319
>>16701272
>32 units of vegetables out of my ass
595519 No.16704581
Making Grand Insulaes stable is a bitch.
e554c7 No.16704590
>>16704581
How did roman aqueducts work? I thought they were many kilometers long, and transferred rain water from mountains so that the impurities would settle to the bottom so it came out clean.
595519 No.16704606
>>16704590
Its even more fascinating that Caesar II, Caesar III and CivCity Rome have absolutely different aqueducts.
It fucks with my brain.
2bd981 No.16704668
>>16704590
Miles. And I think it's supposed to be some sort of Reservoir water collection thing, which I'm not sure Rome had
019f40 No.16704708
>>16701272
I've never managed to make decent city defenses in this fucking game.
I just want to carpet Hispania in housing.
68e322 No.16704844
>>16704606
Is CivCity Rome decent at all? Seems most 3D Caesar inspired games are cursed. Weird how Tilted Mill shat up Caesar IV but came out pretty decent with Children of the Nile.
58c264 No.16705537
>>16698878
Sseth is actually a nigger? I thought that was a joke.
146a0d No.16705552
Zeus/Poseidon is the BEST city building game.
e554c7 No.16705564
>>16705552
It's pretty great I'll give you that.
eb8726 No.16705584
>>16698878
go back to SA you pathetic tranny faggot
973f93 No.16705698
>>16698875
>Caesar IV
>Children of the Nile
>Caesar III
I have at least one physical copy of each of those.
69e346 No.16705729
>>16705537
He's shown his hand on several videos, he's white.
f004fa No.16706418
>>16698875
Caser 3 brings back memories.
Slyvestrious Stelloneus the actor
All the little things the citizen say and do.
109b58 No.16706430
Hey anons, is there some sort of fan made third party engine or something that you can make your own Isometric impressions style city builder games in? Sort of like RPG maker but with city builders?
Asking because my dream game would be a city builder in this style themed around Mesoamerican (Aztec, Maya, etc) civilizations, but none exist, but I feel like I hjave the autism needed to make one provided there was an existing engine designed for modularity and game creation existed.
Alternatively, are there modding toolkits for the official games?
>inb4 I get bitched out because people get their panties in a twist whenever I post about this setting
71be95 No.16706444
>>16705552
They're all pretty good and all bring something unique to the table, though Emperor is likely the best simply because it is the most polished mechanically.
That being said, I still think Pharaoh is the most fitting one thematically. Nothing beats building those fuckhuge Egyptian monuments.
595519 No.16706625
>>16704844
Well, the problem is that there are fuckton of them:
Caesar IV (Tilted Mill)
CivCity Rome (Firefly and Take 2)
Imperium Romanum (Haemimont Games)
GrandAges: Rome (Haemimont Games)
And they all actually play like Tropico, rather than Caesar III. CivCity Rome seems to be most casual, but you also have to learn how to avoid idle workers glitch.
595519 No.16706676
>>16706430
>RPG maker but with city builders
None.
>make your own Isometric impressions style city builder games
Now that's a bit different, you can start modding an existing open source project based on Caesar like Julius or CaesarIA, a 3d game called 0 A.D. or any kind of sim-city like open source builder, if you have programming knowledge and aren't just going to replace sprites/models.
4f0cb4 No.16706705
>>16706430
>Aztec faggot is back again
547787 No.16708166
Finally, some good fucking buildings.
Miscalculated that it could go larger, but fuck it, it will be pain in the ass to relocate stuff on supporting area.
2f2632 No.16708458
>>16706430
I wish there was a game that combine SimCity for city building, EU & Civilization. That way you could build & upgrade your city over time. I hate how shallow Civilization is compared to EU.
96a02c No.16708506
Where's Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom rank among you city building autists?
t. Aspiring China Autist
24ffde No.16708536
>>16708458
Anything with a scope that broad will inevitably be terrible.
Enjoy each of those games for what they are.
e554c7 No.16708701
>>16708458
Yah know what I wish? I was city builders didn't have to use a grid system, and instead let me make things like in your pics.
547787 No.16709552
>>16708458
Play Caesar II, it had something like that. You had main city, and a "province" map, in which you could build up things helping your city, like industries and trade routes, and send armies to far away tribes on the map.
In Caesar III province was cut down in favor of having everything done on one map and trade routes arranged on the roman empire map.
1d06c8 No.16709561
picrel is my favourite citybuldier
shame i cant play it because lmao no HD version
547787 No.16712934
By the way, if you love ancient civilizations - Rise and Fall is pretty good game. Only now remembered its name after playing it as a teenager. Its not exactly a city builder, but it has extensive ingame map editor where you can build your own city and then explore it with a hero in third person, just a quick experiment of mine.
162f7a No.16716542
>>16709561
>shame i cant play it because lmao no HD version
There's an HD fix.
547787 No.16716672
>>16716542
>>16709561
What did he meant by posting screenshot with widescreen patch applied and saying that the settlers 4 has no HD version? HD sprites?
d82e89 No.16716681
I actually have Pharoah/Cleopatra open right now on another tab. I've been playing those games since the early 2000s
6c7fd4 No.16717406
>>16712934
so like SimCopter or Streets of SimCity, but Roman.
neat
does it build actual adventures into it or is it mainly for showpieces?
fb2313 No.16717412
>>16717406
If memory serves it's an RTS game where you can control a "general" in FPS mode. So basically any scenario you code in the editor will play out.
71be95 No.16717415
>>16717412
It can be downloaded from myabandonware, IIRC there's a bunch of patches/fixes there too to get it running on a modern system.
7f90c8 No.16719111
Is Caesar IV good? I have that one along with III
7f90c8 No.16719740
>>16716681
Is that game free of we wuz? I have it on my steam wishlist
e554c7 No.16719933
>>16719740
Just get the gog version. It's easily pirated, and therefore free.
547787 No.16720735
>>16719111
Just play III. 3d rome builders are many, and none of them are as fun as Caesar III. When you get bored of Caesar III switch to Zeus. Caesar IV is good when you played everything already to death and want something unique for sake of it.
>>16719740
Not even real egyptian excavations are free of "we wuz" thanks to (((restorations))). I especially like Minoan Crete ones. There are always screeches between people pointing out european origins of that civilization and blacks pointing out on art that was excavated and "restored" by like one guy. Looking at this picture you would think it was diverse multicultural civilization, when it just wasn't, it was a fucking homogeneous island that weren't even building walls because they feared nothing. At least Egyptians had Nubians to blame for blacks.
85a023 No.16720859
>>16720735
Didn't nubians built some pyramids and shit?
547787 No.16720881
>>16720859
Pyramids were made by homogeneous population of egypt before they even decided to own slaves. Nubians were used as warriors, they weren't engineers or loved pharaoh enough to participate in pyramid building.
Also pyramids are achievements of earlier pharaohs who had trust of other nobles and power. Later pharaohs just couldn't copy earlier dynasties ability to rise such amount of workers in their glory.
eb7ce3 No.16720895
>>16709561
Ive never heard of picrel but that looks like one of the really shitty later settlers games where they clumsily tried to make the game like age of empires.
547787 No.16720910
>>16720895
Its in the file name, " TS4" - "The Settlers 4"
eb7ce3 No.16720941
>>16720910
Ahh that makes sense.
Sad really because settlers 2 was a masterpeice. I could spend an hour autistically planning a single road.
086a89 No.16720978
>>16709561
The Settlers IV seriously needs to be fixed. Even the latest version is very buggy.
Then there is the problem, that the game needs DDraw in hardware mode to get its full visual quality. There is only on wrapper that actually works with the games high settings.
Another problem is the enemies AI. They made the enemies smarter in one of the old patches, because they were to easy on non campaign maps. In those maps the enemy starts with a very small base, just like the player. In the campaign maps the enemy however starts with a full base. This was probably done, because the enemies in The Settlers III would sometimes run out of resources. However sine the AI got a lot smarter, the enemy starts producing solders at the start of a match. By the time you can finally produce you own soldiers, the enemy will do his first attack with an army of about 50 soldiers.
The recently released History edition adds support for widescreen resolutions, but the high graphic settings were removed and almost no bugs were fixed.
There is also no open source port, unlike Settlers I - III.
547787 No.16720991
>>16720978
This is a stupid question, but do people actually love having enemies in city builders? Most of the gameplay is planning efficient city out, but then when you get to army management its all about making it as soon as possible and knowing from where enemy comes from, and unlike age of empires the army size just settles everything.
086a89 No.16721023
>>16720941
There is The Settlers II 10th Anniversary Edition and Aufbruch der Kulturen. If they actually had gotten a proper international release, we might have gotten more games with the classic gameplay.
Aufbruch der Kulturen is especially good. It back ported some of the elements, from The Settlers III. All races play slightly different, there are ranged combat units and you can evoke wonders a temple.
The game got released only in Germany and Russia. The multiplayer was online only and is discontinued. You can now only play against the computer.
f0dbee No.16721025
>>16701002
This shit was fun; but it was also pretty difficult. Maybe there was something I missed as a kid though.
fb2313 No.16722276
>>16720924
I've probably heard this 6 gorillion times, but it never gets old.
ff0eec No.16723470
I love Caesar 3 as the childhood game but Pharaoh to me is the better game and what I enjoy playing more than zeus and emperor. Last time I tried to get Julius working the audio files for the ingame notice films like a demand from caesar was super corrupt. In a perfect world Caesar 3 would get some of the later games changes.
Caesar IV is weird. It's not bad, it's just not as fun a lot of the time and the maps felt far too small to me.
4bc447 No.16723601
>>16717406
Anon reminded me of it but I played the shit out of it when I was a kid. It's an rts like Age of Empires but the resource amounts are higher, so you have millions of resources and the population amount is similiarily adjusted so you have battles of 1K men vs 1K men. There's multiple factions like Roman, Greek and I think there's Egyptians but I'm not sure. It's set in Roman Republic times.
You recruit your hero at your town center and can purchase upgrades for him to get stronger, then you can play third person as him. There's Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar as commandable heroes I'm sure but can't remember any more. The heroes have commands like being able to call your artillery to strike a location even if it's accross the map or telling your troops to move. You have commands like Follow Me, Wait here, Wait there and attack. It's not really that advanced but you can get into the middle of combat with hundreds of dudes around so it's pretty impressive.
Because there is commandable heroes, every building has a modelled interior so you can go into your barracks or climb the walls and so at the enemy from them. It's a really fun idea for a strategy game and I have no clue why more don't do it.
fb2313 No.16725092
>>16723601
Yea, there are Egyptians
