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dda474 No.16684864
For those not in the know, the guys behind Duke Nukem are now making Fem Duke, and it's been in early access for years now. With only a few stages and weapons, but enough of a taste that you basically know how the game's gonna play. I liked the Ion Maiden demo that came with my copy of Bombshell, so I'm a bit optimistic for this game. Not a fan that they changed the character from a literal female Duke Nukem to a Sarah Connor rip-off, but it seems more appropriate for this kinda game. Also I wish she had some sort of kick, instead of a police stick. But yeah, August 15th. Here's hoping it's not shit.
>b-but It's Ion Fury now anon
I don't give a fuck that some half ass Judas Priest rip-offs thinks they own the name Iron Maiden. I'm calling it Ion Maiden.
dfdadf No.16684905
These alien bastards are gonna pay. No one steals my dick… and lives.
Is it actually good or is it more of the Dusk/Amid Evil "it's trying to ape a retro shooter so it's GOTAYAY guys!" trend?
84ae77 No.16684948
I'm so happy 3d realms is on the right side of history!
https://3drealms.com/news/visual-history-bombshell/
52ca43 No.16684951
Iron Maiden was trying to save us
dda474 No.16684974
>>16684951
Maybe so, but Judas Priest is still superior.
e5c285 No.16684977
>>16684948
It's fuckin amazing how these guys are so obsessed with their OC waifu they still believe it's the same character after 100 redesigns.
7e7e1d No.16684984
>>16684905
From what I can tell it's a whole lot more faithful, being actually made in Build and all, but the level design is just ass. Tons of vents that just funnel you from one room to the next.
15c69f No.16684991
>>16684864
Who cares about this SJW game?
dda474 No.16685014
>>16684991
It's an SJW game?
ee83a5 No.16685063
>>16684864
>>You won't get nearly instant mods
>>you won't eventually get a nude mod
are you retarded or inbred, anon?
dda474 No.16685074
>>16685031
Well yeah, I figured that was PR bullshit.
e735b7 No.16685090
Should have used the old Bombshell design, but maybe I'll pirate it if it's fun.
9bc553 No.16685094
>>16684905
DUSK/Amid Evil were their own things gameplay-wise, only the visuals and overall set-up were retro.
This one on the other hand looks like it's just Blood but with pseudo-hitscanners instead of hitscanners everywhere and the setting of a cyberpunk Shadow Warrior Classic. Like, it's more competent level design-wise compared to the previous two, but at the same time I find its existence harder to justify when the gameplay is barely any different from existing Build titles.
dfdadf No.16685096
>>16685090
The old bombshell design as in the ones in the duke nukem documents or the shit top down shooter one?
>>16685094
Hey if it plays like Blood I might be down for it. I just didn't like Dusk that much and Amid Evil didn't look worth trying, especially since anons keep saying the enemy design is shit despite being visually interesting.
e735b7 No.16685099
>>16685096
The Pamela Anderson looking one that was literally a blonde bombshell. Basically the female mirror of Duke.
dfdadf No.16685108
>>16685099
Yeah I'd dig that.
Man I wonder what Duke Nukem Forever could have been without Broussard's tech chasing. Would it just have been basically an expansion pack like Doom 2 was, or would it have been something really stellar?
e735b7 No.16685111
This one actually wasn't too bad either. Had a bit of a 90's Tank Girl thing going on. Current design just looks like a generic sci-fi protagonist that could easily be from a Mass Effect game.
dfdadf No.16685120
>>16685111
I just can't get over the side-shave haircut. Women in vidya or in general shouldn't shave in my opinion.
e735b7 No.16685121
>>16685108
They should have just finished the version of the game that had the Half Life looking graphics. Was it Unreal Engine? That one looked fun.
111313 No.16685122
>>16684948
>>16685031
oy vey cover that slut up with a bhurka, having visible skin below the jawline is a bad look y'all!
0d3733 No.16685127
>>16684864
>Ion Maiden finally releases on August 15th
Releases what on August 15th? Release is a transitive verb, i.e., it requires an object. You can't just release, you have to release something. Here, the game is not the subject, but the object, therefore:
<Ion Maiden will finally be released on August 15th
2c9943 No.16685131
As a fan of old shooters all this shit just makes me think 2 things
>Oh boy more e celebs shilling shit because they're fanboys of the devs
>These people failed at their jobs so bad they're having to beg random people to let them carry on making it.
Duke is the only good build engine game. Blood is unplayable dog shite designed for autists to spam quick saves and grenades. Shadow warrior isn't much better.
I want all these old fucks to die off. Most of them are just leeches who made the tea and cleaned the toilet at id. Once they left id they nose dived and ended up with no other option but to beg like this.
e735b7 No.16685136
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I still want to play it. They fucked up so hard by refusing to just settle for second best and get the game out in a reasonable window of time.
dfdadf No.16685137
>>16685122
Man imagine a politically correct duke nukem.
>Shake it baby Please engage in a completely casual non sexual conversation with me, respectable lady.
04de28 No.16685145
>>16684948
>>16685031
If you read this and your decision isn't immediately to either pirate while telling the devs to go fuck themselves, or outright ignoring it, you don't belong here.
8bfe8d No.16685155
>>16685131
>Blood is unplayable dog shite designed for autists to spam quick saves and grenades.
Imagine being this shit. I got through it all on LB while only saving at level start and a backup for when I'd die to doors or platforming. Shadow Warrior is the real bullshit.
IM looks whatever. Maybe it will be good, haven't tried the demo.
6965d1 No.16685172
>>16684974
Judas Priest is literally gay
2c9943 No.16685177
>>16685155
Imagine thinking it's fun to walk round corners and find 5 hitscanners, to open a door and find 7 hit scanners, to fight the same tanky boss over and over.
And I'm not even touching how shit the weapons are. Blood is a bad game.
04de28 No.16685184
>>16685177
I was largely in agreement with you until you claimed it has shit weapons. Blood's arsenal is delicious.
dfdadf No.16685189
>>16685177
Blood's hitscanners are fun. I put them on the same level of Doom TNT's first few levels with hitscanners, it's an absolute blast mowing through them like a badass.
Episode 3's when I really start hating Blood though.
>weapons are shit
Is this a joke? With the exception of the life leech and voodoo doll it's a fantastic arsenal with lots of great alt fire modes.
04de28 No.16685199
>>16685189
>mowing through them like a badass
I assume you mean playing corner popout with them since they rape your health in a microsecond if you stay out of cover.
e735b7 No.16685204
>>16685177
Someone should really make a version of the game that swaps out the hitscan for projectiles you can dodge. People have remade the entire thing as a Doom mod before, so it can't be that hard.
8bfe8d No.16685208
>>16685177
Imagine being such an african nigger that you are unable to use the rich and plentiful resources you are given. Use the tommygun to stunlock and the dynamite to blow them to hell, use the flaregun to pick off individual cultists.
13c725 No.16685210
still pirating it to see how shit it might be
04de28 No.16685216
>>16685208
>use dynamite for killing without exposing yourself
>use flares to ignite them from afar
>stunlock with tommygun
>oneshot with the good ol' double barrel
These are all valid ways to handle them, and they are all incredibly boring. Having to stop to use cover/pick something off instead of zipping around like a madman is gay.
dfdadf No.16685222
>>16685199
Jesus Christ not this argument again. Crouch. Go fast and don't stop, jump and crouch around like a madman. The tommygun stuns enemies. Use large AoE attacks the flare gun/napalm gives you. Aim your shotgun right and you can do Doom regular shotgun ranges with it. Move in and out of line of sight when you're far away, then get up close and personal while crouching to avoid most of their shots. There's usually more than one way into a firefight, choose wisely.
Or just be a bitch and bounce dynamite of corners but that's barely fun.
e735b7 No.16685223
>>16685208
The question isn't whether you can handle it. The question is whether it makes for fun gameplay.
04de28 No.16685234
>>16685222
Crouching and jumping barely impacts how often you get shot.
>move in and out of line of sight
Again, cover is homosex. This isn't fucking SWAT 4.
ca7975 No.16685237
>>16685120
At least she doesn't have that sad sickly pool chlorine dye job that cut has become associated with.
>>16685223
All three of you come off as the simplest brained niggers in niggerdom. The answer is you're bad at games. Probably the same homosexuals that complain about Shogo.
dfdadf No.16685243
>>16685234
>Crouching and jumping barely impacts how often you get shot.
Bull fucking shit it does. Crouching makes hitscanners miss a lot of their shots.
>Again, cover is homosex. This isn't fucking SWAT 4.
What are your opinions on Doom Chaingunners and Archviles?
2c9943 No.16685252
>>16685184
I fucking hate the flaregun, shooting a guy then waiting for ages until he sets on fire is annoying. And having enemies who fake dying as a common mechanic is bullshit.
>>16685189
I don't find walking round a corner to find a guy with a shotgun there who insta shoots you.
>>16685204
Blood's problems would still remain. It's entire focus is jump scares with shotguns.
>>16685237
>You're a brain dead nigger if you don't like opening closet sized rooms with 4 guys with shotguns camping inside
Blood plays like someone who has no idea how FPS games works designed it. It's objective is to constantly put you in unfun situations and any one who says "that's not fun" has faggots like you calling them casuals. I could play through all of blood and constantly bash my head against awful design decisions or I could just play a game that doesn't have poor game design.
Which do you think I will pick? No one has a problem with Doom having hit scanners, even unfair amounts of hit scanners in some places. They don't even object to monster closests with them in. The objection comes when that is your core gameplay loop. It's just not fun.
04de28 No.16685253
>>16685243
They're the weakest part of the enemy roster, but both are much more enjoyable to fight than the cultists since they have a warmup to their attacks and don't instantly rape 60% of your health.
>>16685252
>fake dying
You can easily just gib them, behead them or burn them though.
>>16685237
>hurr your a nigger
Ok fag.
e735b7 No.16685254
>>16685237
What's the reward in getting good at a game that's annoying to play? You could, but why? Just play a better game instead.
dd8326 No.16685259
>>16685136
Blame, Randy Bitchford.
2c9943 No.16685269
>>16685253
>Burn them
>Shoot with flaregun
>Wait an hour
>They burst into flame
Wow. So responsive. How did I ever live without such responsive weapons?
I'm convinced Blood is the hipster game of choice. They don't like the game, they don't enjoy the game but it makes them feel like they have a big e peen if they say they do. No one gave a flying fuck about blood until like 2 years ago and then we got a source port by an autist and then a new official release. The same shit happened with Shadow warrior which again, no one gave a fuck about and suddenly it's "one of the classics". Rise of the Triad had more of a claim to being a classic but it's remake was so bad even the hipsters hated it. I wonder what game will be rediscovered this way and find it's way onto GOG and Steam next.
dfdadf No.16685272
I'd like to bitch and moan about how you're both insanely casual but at the same time I can really see someone who sucks complete shit at Blood can view it in such a light. I mean like I said I'm not exactly a fan of the latter half of episodes(you want to talk about bullshit enemies let's talk Hellhounds, or the latter Episode 4 levels where they throw like two stone gargoyles at you, in a very small room with an instant death pit on either side, or the following corridor with three fucking mother spiders who get triggered early in the game and get to spawn a shitton of spiders). But, in my opinion I think Episodes 1 and 2 are pretty fucking good. And I can't stand Quake 1's singleplayer when some anons seem to swear by it. Let's just agree to disagree. From what I remember Ion Maiden/Fury had a demo at some point, did anyone happen to play it? Was it worth playing?
>>16685259
What did that nigger do now?
ac8d7f No.16685273
>>16684905
I pirated the alpha build, it was alright, it felt more like a TC for duke than anything else which was probably what they were going for.
That being said don't give them any money what so ever
>>16684948 & >>16685031 should be reason enough for that.
04de28 No.16685280
>>16685269
They ignite when their health falls to zero, so plugging them with the shotty then flaring them is a good combo.
Blood is an absolutely amazing game - except for the extreme frequency of very high damage hitscanners.
>>16685272
>your just bad
Ok fag.
>hellhounds, gargoyles, spiders
Except all of those are great enemies because you avoid damage from them by dodging, not by corner camping like a sperg.
>I can't stand Quake 1's singleplayer
Get out.
dfdadf No.16685282
>>16685273
>That being said don't give them any money what so ever
I'd like to shell out because for all the flaws a game like Dusk had I'd still take it over like Battlefield 3's singleplayer, but I don't understand why it seems the newer decent FPS games seem to be made or published by faggots.
That game with the really blocky models might be cool but it's way early in development, the one with the really ugly giant HUD elements. I forget what it's called, Proteus or something.
2c9943 No.16685283
>>16685272
I don't think Quake is great but compared to blood it's amazing.
13c725 No.16685287
>>16685272
Randy hasn't done much except tweet
8eaf5f No.16685654
>>16684878
It must suck to be you, to have more game choices than ever and be unable to do anything but complain.
>Actually mad about aliens, guns and titties
You know who hates stuff like this? Fags and fat bitches. Which one are you?
e735b7 No.16685704
>>16685654
>titties
Where? lol. They covered them up.
29e72d No.16685742
>>16684864
What do you mean? It's been out since Feb.2018.
748066 No.16685750
>>16685654
When they send their shills they aren't sending their best.
82eeb5 No.16685767
>>16685654
You can cover a turd with all the gold, jewelry or whatever ornamental item in the world and it'd still be a fucking turd. Kill yourself, nigger.
dda474 No.16685901
>>16685742
That's the demo.
29e72d No.16685937
>>16685901
I know. It's out and been able to play for over a year and now when it comes out of early access they change the release date. But it's technically out. I hate early access.
618877 No.16685938
I gotta say, it's very impressive how they managed to make a AA game feel so bland, focus tested and watered down.
dda474 No.16685956
>>16685938
>It's an AA game
bullshit, what the fuck did they use the money on? whores and meth?
5b0522 No.16686014
I played through Duke3D on the Saturn for the first time recently. It was really fun and the feel was recreated in the slave driver engine amazingly, enhanced too with the superior slave driver physics, although less free form than quake saturn.
Ion Fury looks really boring. Doesn't the engine have serious issues with performance directly being tied to clock speed, not IPC? Meaning the more detailed things get the higher speed is required because there's basically no real acceleration? I'm looking forward to the drama about its technical issues. I can see discussion of the game dying quickly after a thread, then a thread 6 months down the line asking if anyone played it, sort of like Dusk.
The only other truly good old shooter around is Power Slave Saturn. If you like Duke3D, quake and Doom/Ultimate (not doom 2, quake 2, blood, shadow warrior, anything by monolith) give Power Slave a try, it'll probably hit the spot for you whereas those others missed pretty hard.
e2691a No.16686035
>strank garl protag
Fucking retards. They just had to ruin it like that. Feels so damn out of place.
738310 No.16686055
>>16684864
I find it hilarious how they tried to reference Iron Maiden through the naming and font, despite being pretty much the antithesis of that era of metal. Every fucking time something has a reputation of being cool and cutting edge a million faggots jump onto it 10-15 years down the line and turn it into a joke in their desperate attempt at joining in with the cool crowd.
Embarrassing game, embarrassing people involved in the making.
2bef7a No.16686059
>>16685031
>>16684948
I agree. Women don't deserve rights.
e735b7 No.16686171
>>16686055
The term iron maiden predates the band Iron Maiden.
c20f2a No.16686198
>>16684864
>For those not in the know, the guys behind Duke Nukem are now making Fem Duke
ACKSHUALLY
It's not the guys behind Duke Nukem, since the original 3DR Team broke up throughout the course of DNF's cursed development. Thank George Broussard for that one, since he mismanaged the project to an extreme level while squandering the money on webcamming his Porsche and allocating the funds to fly to places "for research", while assembling fake trailer content for a game that never existed in the first place in the build that was shown.
The game is made by Voidpoint, which is the team responsible for EDUKE32. The only hand that 3DR has is a publishing and "consultation" role. That said, I think it's pretty good. I loved what I played from the Early Access content, and I'm stoked to play it in full when it hits next month.
Trailer looks good, so I'm optimistic for more.
>that commander keen reference
Hue.
12f5b3 No.16686207
>>16684948
I saw another design and thought that the new one looked better, this one is way better, should have been this. She doesn't need a suit of armor, Duke just wears a shirt and jeans with some sunglasses anyway.
Fuck it, once the games out I'm going to create a set of new sprites and other relevant art that give her this design.
00c7c0 No.16686265
This doesn't look too bad but I can't believe they cucked out on the title. Iron Maiden has no case.
I guess they just wanted to cover their bases in case Iron Maiden was successful with the lawsuit.
abca5f No.16686282
>>16684948
>The design for Ion Maiden's character is overly sexualized as well
>She's not a 400lb hairy bison of a woman(?) with bad tattoos over 60% of it's body, a shaven head, and a pug nose constantly making references to it's fierce vagina.
What funny is that they "yikes" at those 90's designs without even the slightest shred of self-awareness than in 10 years they're going to be looking back at their comments on 90's designs and feel that it's every bit as cornball and ridicule worthy.
It's like people in the late 80's making fun of the clothes people wore in the 70's. I'd say archive this shit and shove in their faces in a decade, but they'll just laugh it off and claim they were so naive and stupid back then, but that was 10 years ago, and - not at all enlightened like they "currently" are.
Literally fashion trend morality. What a fucking joke.
c20f2a No.16686283
>>16686265
Iron Maiden had no case, but having to fight a $2M lawsuit when the game is already so close to release, they just wanted the game to be out. Iron Maiden's legal team has much more money to spend in litigation than Voidpoint/3DRs does, and it isn't the first time that 3DR has been fucked over by a lawsuit.
I don't blame them one bit for avoiding the whole thing entirely so that they can just release the fucking thing. Hopefully the game will be good and they'll be afford a countersuit if they really wanted to go that route - but Iron Maiden has already fucked themselves over with the bad PR from it, this is probably Iron Maiden's version of Metallica v. Napster.
71f759 No.16686304
Is nothing safe from SJW politics? I'm getting more and more blackpilled every passing day.
582d19 No.16686306
>>16686283
If only Iron Maiden had won the case and taken this cuck company down with it.
5ec170 No.16686317
>>16684974
Im fucking plying, Priest got hard on Sad Wings, but peaked on Stained Class, then they did Point of Entry and British Steel which were shit. Screaming is just dumbed down Stained and the later half of Defenders is shit. Turbo and Ram it Down are godawful and then what? Painkiller? The album they're still trying to copy nowadays? Fuck that.
At least fucking Maiden had a good streak until Seventh Son. They might have been a little formulaic but every time Priest tried doing anything that wasn't fucking balls out metal with a touch of progression like the setlist they had for Unleashed they weren't very good in the best case and were outright awful at worst.
>>16686283
>Metallica v. Napster
Not likely, it's a dick move yeah but what made Metallica v. Napster so infamous was that it dealt directly with the music they made, and it was basically Lars kvetching over missed shekels by people downloading their records. This is just a dispute over the name of the game being a dumb pun on Iron Maiden, which is even more retarded, but it really doesn't affect the listening fanbase much since the people that actually look forward to this game despite the SJW bullshittery and listen to Maiden probably compromise like less than 1% of their fanbase. I couldn't give less of a fuck what name it has since I'm pirating this shit anyway.
738310 No.16686330
>>16686171
Oh fuck off with that shit, the font makes it painfully clear what they were referencing.
111313 No.16686369
>>16686304
> blackpilled
Don't be a faggot anon. Start lurking /pol/, start working out, stop eating garbage. A civil war is coming to the US, make no mistake, and when it does you better be ready to lynch as many communists as you have rope.
71f759 No.16686376
>>16686369
>Start lurking /pol/
You mean the board with jew/shill/shizo accusation quota per post?
That board is unreadable.
00c7c0 No.16686398
Game looks fun but this "practical armor" bullshit cuckery needs to go.
I'll get the game but I'm probably going to mod it so that she looks closer to her original concept.
abca5f No.16686414
>>16686398
I honestly don't have a problem with "practical" armor so long as it's a genuine aesthetic choice and fits the art style and tone of the rest of the game. It's when people start to use it as a means of moral peacocking that I want to start shoving woodsplints under the nails of people's twitter fingers.
Maybe it's just a bit of /clang/ in me, but I find plate armor to be incredibly sexy.
00c7c0 No.16686421
>>16686414
Depends on the context I guess. If it's trying to be realistic or something then it would make sense for them to be wearing plate mail (but then again, women in medieval times wouldn't be doing any fighting in the first place).
But here it's just straight poz. Thankfully it's not shoved down your throat extensively since you're playing the game from a first person perspective. But it's still annoying.
Duke only wears a tank top and still fights without any of this practical armor nonsense. Why does Shelly have to? Do they just hate women?
582d19 No.16686438
>>16686398
The main issue is that they want to make the next Duke Nukem/Blood/Shadow Warrior, yet to protagonist looks as generic and stale as possible. Her VA also sounds like she swallowed an ash-tray.
582d19 No.16686450
>>16686414
Like said >>16686421, both bikini chainmail and "realistic" plate are valid so long as it fits the style and tone of the game in general.
With Ion Maiden it really just screams "we're cucks and/or fear the twitter mob", chiefly because the game is a spiritual sequel to Duke Nukem (and by extension Shadow Warrior and Blood), and Duke Nukem was as tongue-in-cheek as it gets. Hell, just look at Bombshell from a recent-ish mod, and how she looks like Duke's female counterpart.
>But it's still annoying.
It's also a worrying precedent. If they walked back on the character design because it was too risqué for CY+4, what else did they cut or censor? Can they be trusted not to mess with their product in the future if a leftist complains about it on the internet?
166ff2 No.16686454
>>16684948
there's always the pro-gun angle left
69eb8f No.16686463
>>16684864
>hey fellow xers what if a evil symbol of toxic masculinity was a stonk trigendered lesbian?
9393b5 No.16686466
>>16685145
I was going to mention how it's a red flag worth pirating if for no other reason than to see how the game is without supporting shitty actions, but >>16686450 puts it better anyways
> If they walked back on the character design because it was too risqué for CY+4, what else did they cut or censor? Can they be trusted not to mess with their product in the future if a leftist complains about it on the internet?
Like it or not we're in an age of pozzed gamedev and developers being influenced by people who wouldn't even buy the game with the changes.
You want to throw away your money, then that's your choice. I'm going to see if it's even worth my money first.
111313 No.16686516
>>16686376
Come on now anon, after a week identifying jidf and reporting/filtering them becomes second nature
0d425a No.16686529
>>16685127
We have niggers using this board not even capitalizing their fucking I's and this is the straw that broke your back?
15b379 No.16686588
>>16684948
So instead of a cool and sexy action girl we now got a boring man with tits. Feminism is all about turning women into inferior men and turning men into inferior women. The feminist ideal is to become a bulldyke, because feminism teaches that all female values are worthless.
b71260 No.16686600
>>16685136
>mfw told a buddy to get duke nukem forever when it released in like 2010 and he said it was the worst vidya purchase of his life and he sold it back to gamestop
d42364 No.16686640
>>16685031
>We have this cool, sexy but not too trashy eesign, with a whip which can be more than just a melee weapon and can be used to steal weapons from the bad dudes' hands or as a grappling hook
<Lol let's ditch that design and give her an ugly arm and haircut, then ditch that one too and give her a generic power armor
I will never not get mad at this.
db7c0d No.16686740
>>16684864
I wasn't impressed with the gameplay of the preview campaign. Maps are great, it's what you do in them that feels like a very barebones Blood: all enemies are machinegunners that require cover and snapshots to deal with, without melee variants or minibosses; weapons are all the same old, with the sole exception of the bowling bomb which however bugs every time.
It wasn't so smart to make a sequel to the massive flop Bombshell, either. A female Duke Nukem with flat delivery and zero humor isn't fun to play as.
db7c0d No.16686849
>>16685155
>he memorized a game through trial and error
>he feels gratified through pavlovian conditioning
You think like a bugman
ec4b41 No.16686872
>>16686198
>muh DNF never existed XDDD
Stop lying anytime now
582d19 No.16686874
>>16686872
Reminder that the only reason we can't play all the various prototypes of DNF is that Randy won't release them.
That disgusting liberal cunt likely deleted them all out of spite.
c63ef4 No.16686889
>>16686874
He let a squirt girl play a magic trick with the builds at his peacock theater. He even showed it to kids.
96cdfb No.16686941
>>16686874
>All of older builds of DNF could be gone in a moment just because Randy doesn't care that it never could be done again the same way
polite sage for off-topic
e3c24a No.16686960
Someone post the link to a demo pls
5b0522 No.16686963
>>16686874
I'm not convinced any of them are more than a couple of scripted events, a few half made prefabs and a couple of hallways that lead into a void.
ec4b41 No.16686984
>>16686963
>I'm not convinced
Yeah, no one cares what you think
582d19 No.16686985
>>16686963
IIRC a lot of them have a lot of content, since the issue with DNF wasn't the work-flow, but the fact the retards in charge drank the Kool-Aid and constantly switched engines/added new gimmicks from other games to make DNF the best game eva.
I'm reasonably sure there's more than enough material around to make a full game out of it, and not the abortion DNF became, which was basically Randy lazily cobbling together whatever assets were finished and calling it a day.
b40cc0 No.16687008
>iron maiden still around
Do they do nothing but occasionally tour and perform hits from that brief period where they could actually produce decent songs? Handful of good records and singles but most of their early and late stuff is utterly abhorrent.
5b0522 No.16687021
>>16686985
Something tells me there's not much of a game in those 12MB of files. I don't need you to care what I think, I know dripping in the doubt will be more than enough to set you off.
>>16686985
With how most game development works I doubt they would get very far before shelving what they did. I'm not going to even say I doubt it, there is literally not a full game out there for any of the other DNF versions.
5c321a No.16687023
>>16684864
>they actually cucked out and changed the name despite that lawsuit never having a chance in hell of winning and even losing a chance to countersue a bunch of boomer millionaires and making more money out of it that way than they would've ever hopped to make with a shitty version of better,past games
WHAT A BUNCH OF DWEEBS
ec9d3f No.16687031
>>16684905
Amid Evil is a great game that iterates on classic FPS you tasteless faggot.
ec9d3f No.16687036
>>16685177
Anon, sit down, because I'm about to blow your mind.
You can right click while using dynamite to bank it around corners.
Now go play the game again.
ec9d3f No.16687040
>>16685216
You can also duck to reduce hitscan hit rates. Face it, you're bad.
0098c4 No.16687042
This reminds me, are there any good Duke 3d mods worth playing? AMC TC looked interested but I was kind of overwhelmed with how much shit you're given from the get go.
0098c4 No.16687044
>>16687031
I hadn't played it yet, it just didn't look particularly interesting and I heard the enemy design, while visually stunning, isn't that good.
582d19 No.16687053
>>16687042
There's shitloads of them, ranging from TCs to map packs. The modding scene is not as expansive as with Doom, but there's plenty of worthwhile mods to play through both for DN3D and Blood.
Strangely enough there's not nearly as much stuff for Shadow Warrior for whatever reason.
89b1b2 No.16687059
>>16684864
>some half ass judas priest rip off
shut your faggot mouth, Iron maiden has more memorable tracks then judas
e735b7 No.16687061
>>16686330
Uh. Not really. The Iron Maiden font looks completely different.
582d19 No.16687065
>>16687059
Why are all these supposedly hardcore metal bands such complete faggots? First it's Metallica kvetching about Napster and then Iron Maiden lose their tits a game's title sounds similar to the name of their band.
89b1b2 No.16687066
>>16687065
Doubt it was them, was more likely their legal team
6e9413 No.16687068
>>16687065
>metallica
lol metallica was always faggots, ever since their first album, megadeth is better metallica to this day, and anthrax is better megadeth, and slayer is better all of them
467cfb No.16687070
>>16687023
Man, Bruce looks like complete shit. Is he vegan, or something?
582d19 No.16687071
>>16687066
And they have no idea what their legal team is doing why exactly?
89b1b2 No.16687072
>>16687071
Because most large things are completely unaware of what their legal team does on a daily basis unless it's brought up to them by fans.
e735b7 No.16687073
>>16687065
They're old people. They get spooked like horses when they see things they don't understand.
15f578 No.16687074
>>16687044
The enemy design is nothing groundbreaking but it is very servicable. The game excels in level and weapon design. It's the best retroclone I've played so far, easily.
0098c4 No.16687077
>>16687074
Fair enough, I'll try it. Is it as toaster friendly as Dusk?
89b1b2 No.16687083
Oh, the shit cherry on this shit sundae
>HDoomguy worked on it
so you know it's fucking garbage when a faggot who prefers to kawaii uguu his stuff is hired onboard.
15f578 No.16687084
>>16687077
Most likely, but I can't say for sure because my PC is definitely not a toaster and I didn't check. The weapons are actually sprites so that's much easier to render at least.
4adacd No.16687087
>>16686330
I knew about the torture device before the band believe it or not.
15f578 No.16687088
>>16687083
Gonna need a source on that one.
89b1b2 No.16687089
>>16687088
Look in the credits, or search hdoomguy+ ion maiden
0098c4 No.16687108
>>16687089
At least it's not some guy who draws blue orc futa or something.
15f578 No.16687111
>>16687089
Well, here's hoping that he made some cute enemies, I guess.
89b1b2 No.16687118
>>16687108
I'd prefer that then generic bullshit
db7c0d No.16687135
All the posers on this site, boasting they don't buy games and calling everyone a buyfag even when it's supporting good devs.
Then you scratch the facade and here they are, wasting absurd sums on ludicrous scams and camwhores.
ec4b41 No.16687144
>>16687135
F-fuck… you're totally right… I have been lying to everyone this whole time about pirating games… when the truth is Im the world champion of both battleborn and lawbreakers and I bought both of them at full price as pre-orders.
b40cc0 No.16687147
>>16687135
Ha look at this loser, he probably spent 10 WHOLE DOLLARS on a video game, 10 dollars, an astronomical sum which will surely leave him in financial ruin for quite some time.
0098c4 No.16687149
>>16687144
Get off vent or I'll have you bent.
e735b7 No.16687151
>>16687135
Oh shit, you got me.
Wait, no. I don't do that either.
d81dd5 No.16687157
>>16684948
Imagine being so soy soaked that you are embarrassed for designing an attractive female character.
ec4b41 No.16687181
>>16687149
Who the heck is this?
6898f6 No.16687184
>>16685137
>to not insult the sensibilities of the modern beta male, you still pay her
e735b7 No.16687205
>>16687184
>for a jar of bathwater
0098c4 No.16687217
>>16687184
>the stripclub level has an unskippable cutscene of Duke himself stripping to landwhales and gays
6928a4 No.16687230
>>16685137
It already exists, and it says "Bazinga".
15f578 No.16687246
>>16685137
>No one body shames our liberated women… and remains unblocked on Twitter.
ec7a99 No.16687252
174731 No.16687294
>>16685127
>Release is a transitive verb
u wot m8
6e9413 No.16687308
>>16687294
wow 0d3733 must feel pretty damn owned now
3ca271 No.16687387
>>16684864
>Le modern feminist approach
At least take some better inspiration, scrubs.
357db1 No.16687416
>>16687294
>>16687308
Learn to read a dictionary. The usage used is, in fact, transitive, unless you think he's referring to "moving from one's normal position in order to assume another position".
He's still wrong for not understanding that "release" is used in that sense intransitively colloquially, and that that sort of use stems from the journalistic shortening of phrases, removing all articles and most linking verbs. Grammar nazis that don't recognize legitimate colloquial use are the worst.
73751b No.16687451
>>16687070
He's in his 60s.
c8ec41 No.16687512
>>16686849
>look at me everyone i suck at game, game must suck, anyone that doesn't suck at game is an npc bot bugman
lol
c18905 No.16687568
>3D Realms
Wait, did I missed something?
6e9413 No.16687574
>>16687568
yeah, a few english classes, you esl faggot
ec4b41 No.16687713
Will randy sue 3D realms for making a female duke game?
6bdcf3 No.16687977
I'M GONNA BEAT THE SHIT OUTTA YOUR FUCKING MOTHER THAT GAVE BIRTH TO YOU YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKING MOTHERFUCKER YOU JUST WATCH WHEN I FIND YOUR GODDAMN ASS IMMA RIP YOUR FUCKING BALLS AND RAM 'EM DOWN YOUR GODDAMN THROAT AND MAKE YOU A NEW FUCKING BOX
DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND ME?
6bdcf3 No.16688004
Yeah but really, I'd sooner play Sigil, the midi is fuggin rad.
0098c4 No.16688008
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16687977
BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS BALLS
>>16688004
Yeah
6bdcf3 No.16688015
>>16688008
I didn't want to start tearing guts, it's so good.
0098c4 No.16688427
>just realized it's august the 15th and not july the 15th
fug
6e9413 No.16688438
>>16688427
are you drunk? today is the 12th
0098c4 No.16688446
>>16688438
Meant the release date, anon. I wanted to play this for quite some time since I like the build engine.
6bdcf3 No.16688580
>>16688446
Just play some mods in the meanwhile. I forgot I played DKF it's been so long.
0098c4 No.16688590
>>16688580
>DKF
What's that? A Forever mod for 3D?
81281b No.16688692
Imagine projecting this hard :
>>16687135
8f353c No.16689213
>>16687713
I wouldn't put it past him. The guy looks retarded enough to sue 3DR for using Build in the first place.
>>16688580
>DKF
Dick Kickem Forever?
88ce84 No.16689216
>>16688590
Donkey Kong Frontier, clearly
43958a No.16689349
People keep shitting on this game but I'm just sitting here glad we have another wolfen-style 2d graphics in a fps.
876500 No.16689942
>>>/v/16689349
<i'm just glad i'm allowed to eat shit with a sugar-substitute topping
your bait is as weak as your resolve, >>>/4um/ wrote back and it misses (You)
7e7e1d No.16689972
>>16687135
A guy who shits on Blood is a cuckchanneler corporate drone. What a shock.
f8c1b8 No.16690825
>>16687416
If anything it's closer to the second definition, but used in future tense.
718b85 No.16691519
>>16685654
>Don’t ask questions just consume product and be able excited for next product
There are enough good games coming out and the existence of those only worth being mocked makes for some fun imageboard posting inbetween
efdbef No.16691594
>>16684864
Not paying for it either way. Fuck these cunts.
7b527c No.16692016
>>16687713
>Hahah, your game is mine now. I will keep it in the same hole I put the old DNF betas
8339e2 No.16692063
>>16684948
What in the fuck…? That's not even that bad considering Quiet or even Bayonetta.
Jesus christ…
15c69f No.16692130
>>16686330
Aren't references protected under parody law anyway?
0607ad No.16692149
>>16692130
This is a trademark issue so the name being too similar is an issue. If Iron Maiden didn't do their duty to defend the trademark they risk losing it to genericide. If the devs had referenced the character after the band and not have made the name of the game itself being just one letter short of "Iron Maiden" it probably would have been okay.
15c69f No.16692158
>>16692149
That sounds like bullshit.
0607ad No.16692189
>>16692149
losing it to failure to police*
>>16692158
https://archive.fo/UYQJo
If you fail to police your trademark for too long and allowing others to use it is considered abandoning it in the eyes of the court. The trademarks being too similar is enough for this to be an issue. Also lawyers like busywork for disputes that are likely to be settled out of court because it means money for little effort so they're more than happy to bring up the issue whenever they can.
15c69f No.16692194
>>16692189
Except Band-aid and Q-tips are used generically all the time and they are still trademarked.
0607ad No.16692232
>>16692194
Those are registered Principle Register of trademakr s. They're not considered legally owned under US law and can be challenged. But those are examples of companies successfully combating genericide by actively protecting their brands i.e. doing what Iron Maiden is doing.
000000 No.16692263
>>16686330
>>16692149
>>16686055
I haven't seen suck a fat kike shill for while.
I guess Blizzard has a monopoly to steal other people's ideas then. Idea of a copyright is a jewish cancer and always has been.
000000 No.16692289
Also Iron Maiden was always a mediocre band produced by jews to reprogram normalfags. Get fucked.
0607ad No.16692308
>>16692263
Copyright effectively effectively made that you wouldn't be slaves and to people with more resources who could otherwise steal you idea and bring it to market faster than you could. Don't defend people who are too lazy to do anything original and would than ride the tailcoats of the successful. For every Notch you have ten Voidpoints but the alternative would be having only games by EA, Activision, or THQ because they could steal the code of other and let their army of devs add in nice looking graphics on top.
e735b7 No.16692329
>>16692289
How? By singing in a cheesy manner about sci-fi novels and old war movies? Iron Maiden are fucking dorks. No one's being reprogrammed by them.
ad405e No.16692574
I played the “Demo” and really enjoyed it. I wonder what will happen if it sells well.
ad405e No.16692599
000000 No.16692707
>>16692308
>that you wouldn't be slaves and to people with more resources
On the contrary, It's exactly what it does, brainlet.
0607ad No.16692746
>>16692707
How? I spelled out how it did the opposite and you haven't refuted a single point.
ebcaba No.16692883
>>16685111
>super-wide shoulders
>really narrow waist with almost no hip curve
This is a man.
7270ee No.16692934
>>16685111
>>16692883
Is there a decent looking 2d or 3d woman with a side shave and a post apocalyptic getup?
edf92a No.16692955
>>16685120
Besides looking terrible, that hair cut is up there with the colored hair niggers. At least it functions as an easy to identify warning flag for possible cancer ridden projects.
>>16692599
I played an older version, and it wasn't bad but it wasn't that good either. Probably worth a pirate when it is finished though.
e0dae8 No.16692968
What prompted the name change? Was there pending legal action or something? I thought you can make shitty offbrand parodies like Bepsi
ad405e No.16692969
>>16692968
Nope. The jews at Iron Maiden threatened to sue
000000 No.16693055
>>16692746
You didn't have a single point, just thrown a bunch of unoriginal bullshit you stole from other people.
Absence of copyright wouldn't stop you from doing anything, THQ also does, retard. Activision lawyers can't touch you if theres no grounds. And why the fuck anyone would steal some indie faggot code?
Right now they just purchase both faggot and a code if they want it and eventually all worthy intellectual property will be owned by big corporations and protected by government.
Also whats about Notch? Hes so masterfully stole a FOSS game and sold it to MS you still impressed? Otherwise what? You're so afraid talentless hack would have to work.
7e7e1d No.16693083
>>16692149
So, when are shills going to stop trying to push this? It's trademark that has to be defended, not copyright. There's a reason Apple sues people who use logos of apples and not people who make rounded edged computers sitting on pole stands.
0607ad No.16693111
>>16693055
>Absence of copyright wouldn't stop you from doing anything
The lack of copyright wouldn't stop anyone from doing anything and that's the problem. It's there to protect big guys from stealing from small guys all the same. Copyright laws are how some no name indie game dev can sue a major entertainment network for stealing his ideas and putting them in their shitty new Star Trek show.
>why the fuck anyone would steal some indie faggot code? Right now they just purchase both faggot and a code if they want it and eventually all worthy intellectual property will be owned by big corporations and protected by government.
Copyright is how they can sell code in the first place retard. With it they have a choice rather than it being stolen from them outright.
>Also whats about Notch? Hes so masterfully stole a FOSS game and sold it to MS you still impressed? Otherwise what? You're so afraid talentless hack would have to work.
He took an general idea (general ideas like genres are not protected by copyright) made it into a cohesive game that people actually cared about, made bank and decided to sell it to microsoft and use what was formerly microsoft's money to do whatever he wants like invest in shitty indie games he likes instead of some bigger company making NotMinecraft that's basically the same game and assets but with more marketing and him and his studio not getting a dime. Sounds like you're a faggot that's salty someone made it.
ec4b41 No.16693114
>>16693111
>Copyright laws are how some no name indie game dev can sue a major entertainment network for stealing his ideas and putting them in their shitty new Star Trek show.
?
bc4fc9 No.16693129
>>16692934
No, because in a post-apocalyptic world 99,9% women would be in tightly-knit tribal societies taking care of children, which are the key to rebuilding the world. It's in their biology, just like in the man's biology is making them safe and providing them with favorable conditions. Mannish dykes in post-apo/punk setting is a feminist soyboy fantasy. Almost everything -punk now is overflowing with soy these days.
7e7e1d No.16693133
>>16693129
Same thing when it comes to roving gangs of drug addled warlords and whatnot because people don't seem to understand the law is actually what keeps those kinds of people alive.
0607ad No.16693158
e0dae8 No.16693162
>>16693083
>>16693114
>>16693111
Copyright law exists to defraud consumers and creators that arent rich.
You make a product (((they))) dont like? Prepare to get a legal notice even if you aren't actually infringing on anything. You can either defend your innocence in court which costs money, or settle out of court.
Between you and a multibillion dollar network of jews, lawyers, and industry insiders, guess who runs out of money first?
81281b No.16693163
>>16692063
>Quiet or even Bayonetta.
>comparing western cuck devs to based idgaf jap feminiciders
81281b No.16693167
>>16692308
>Copyright effectively effectively made that you wouldn't be slaves and to people with more resources who could otherwise steal you idea and bring it to market faster than you could.
Except it's exactly what it does, but whatever.
b9db90 No.16693187
>>16693111
>>16693158
<I HAD THAT IDEA FIRST,PAY ME
<OH-SEA DONUT STEELE
If this proves anything is that the so called "indie" scene is more fucked than the triple-ay industry since it apparently is full of Philled Fishes trying to make a quick buck and sell out in any way they can
ec4b41 No.16693190
>>16693187
I dont get why indie devs are so vocal and care so much about every little thing, if you didnt want people to pester you about your game why not just NOT use social media and ignore them?
81281b No.16693193
>>16693190
It's all about getting attention. If I succeeded in making a game I could sell, I'd want all the attention possible, even if it's negative, as long as it sells my game.
1a41e6 No.16693194
>>16687151
>>16687144
>>16687147
Look at all the impotent denials. Every fucking day there's someone confessing he's been throwing shit at kickstarter or early access, not to mention the literal reddit tier 'rate my steam sale purchase' threads that are STILL on the catalog.
You don't get to play the ebin gamer when most here are millennials with the same identical bad habits as a cuckchanner.
>>16689972
>a guy who shits on Blood
You teen niggers are illiterate.
7e7e1d No.16693195
>>16693190
Almost like the fact they can't find any sort of publisher deal despite people like Devoler cranking out pixelshit faster than Ubisoft can release an asscreed reskin is sign that they have no negotiation and social skills or something.
7e7e1d No.16693196
>>16693194
We have IDs here cuckchan.
ec4b41 No.16693198
>>16693195
>>16693193
If any game i make becomes really popular do I have to interect with the community? I'd rather completely ignore them and just work
7e7e1d No.16693204
>>16693198
Just let them make their own communities.
81281b No.16693215
>>16693198
>If any game i make becomes really popular do I have to interact with the community
Why would you. The attention is needed to get popular, while the opposite can also be true, nothing really forces you to engage in it.
1ff463 No.16693353
>>16693198
Never engaging with it is an option but that might really drive off part of your potential userbase for longer term engagement of your game or having them look at your other stuff.
Usually those that do the best are those that respond to you with some level of professional detachment but not enough that it just makes it look like BS PR speech every time they do, basically staying neutral in tone and not getting emotional in how you engage them.
It's kind of hard to accurately describe but usually as long as you don't treat the players as if they're your friends or just paypigs you're doing better than the majority out there so there's that.
ad405e No.16693447
I actually really enjoyed the "demo". It definitely felt better than any of the other FPS trying to be retro.
3ee794 No.16693464
>>16684864
>half ass Judas Priest rip-offs
Bruce Dickenson isn't a fag, and aside from his raw musical talent he's also an established producer. Tell us more about the leather and assless-chaps wearing faggot from Judas Priest, though.
06dcbf No.16699053
Just posting to say the devs have been hardcore shipping this game on half Chan and they get hardcore triggered if anyone says they prefer the old designs more. Both on /v/ and on the steam forums where they ban pet that complain.
200362 No.16699059
>>16699053
>old designs
Elaborate. Are you referring to that top down shooter game which was shit or they changed something in the build engine game itself?
200362 No.16699062
>>16699059
Nvm, I realized you referred to DNF Bombshell design.
ad405e No.16699637
>>16699059
He's refering to pic related. Guess which one the devs kept?
a4c14d No.16699646
>>16699637
Isn't the game centered around when Shelly was still in the GDF? M makes sense for that, even if A and E are better designs.
fb78b9 No.16699730
>>16699637
Honestly, half naked looks stupid as fuck. It always looked retarded and annoying whenever you saw them.
The best looking one is A, or they could have made another one where she has the clothes of the cover but without the breast plate and more of a spandex type thing like samus.
081066 No.16699768
can't you shut the fuck up and kys anita?
7d1232 No.16699800
>>16687451
Also he just dealt with throat cancer.
e5c285 No.16699838
>>16699800
That he got from eating pussy.
4dbcaa No.16699849
>>16684864
>3D Realms making a female FPs character
>Made a new one despite not making a game for the one that already exsisted
Fucking retards.
27fa46 No.16699880
>>16693464
Dickenson is a polymath considering all the shit he does/has done.
0d49e0 No.16699937
>>16687083
>>16687089
>Hiring a Z-grade sprite "artist" like HDoomGuy
The only reason he even started doing sprites in the first place is because he completely and utterly failed as a real hentai artist. Apparently nobody can tell that you can't draw if you draw it in 32x32 instead.
This game's going to be a disaster.
71c2bc No.16700016
I just played the Ion Maiden demo for the first time yesterday and I'm not impressed at all. Gameplay and controls are fine, but the enemies are very bland and generic, and the demo level feels like some freeware DN3D mod made by a slav in a couple of weeks.
>>16693198
>>16693353
Most jap indie devs are like that, they never interact with the community or only rarely, and when they do interact it's in a typical japanese manner, friendly and super polite but detached. Most Japanese indie devs pull very well this thing of acting professional without sounding corporatist. But western normalniggers love attention. Just look at all the mods, conversions, and community-made ports and games that got shut down before they were even released because the attention whoring faggots couldn't keep their mouths shut instead of only going public after it was done and out.
0019b6 No.16700046
>have never played a duke nukem game
>only footage I've even seen of one is Duke literally smearing shit on himself in forever
c20f2a No.16700092
>>16700016
>Gameplay and controls are fine, but the enemies are very bland and generic, and the demo level feels like some freeware DN3D mod made by a slav in a couple of weeks.
Sums up exactly how I felt playing it, too. I like the gameplay overall, but the enemies are so fucking uninspired in every way, and the level design isn't practical, memorable, nor does it flow. What made Richard Gray's level design work so well, is that it flowed, had multiple approaches for each area, and each area had a clear, utilitarian purpose as to what each room is used for in a believable way. Ion Maiden just doesn't have that. Nothing feels realistic or grounded, it just feels like a city-themed string of hallways and blockages with no real thought in ambience or flow.
Might be better with mods, but then again, this whole game is just a Duke 3D mod.
c18460 No.16700206
>modern commercial attempt at a 2D sprite-based FPS
Thanks for your provocative thread full of political whining, now I finally bothered to look this game up and am interested in it. My only concern is whether they'll fuck it up with Steam DRM.
6977a3 No.16700220
>>16699730
>Honestly, half naked looks stupid as fuck. It always looked retarded and annoying whenever you saw them.
t. SJW
abca5f No.16700389
>>16693198
>If any game i make becomes really popular do I have to interect with the community? I'd rather completely ignore them and just work
Read-Only, do not reply. Take constructive criticism in stride, even if delivered in a crude fashion. You can tell the difference between an angry fan and a troll. Angry fans are passionate and deeply invested in your project, and want it to be better. Trolls are just there for the laughs. This is the biggest hangup, because Indie devs are usually either egotistical hipsters drunk on their own legend that their clique wrote themselves - or they're autists who don't want other assholes fucking with their lego blocks. Twitter just amplifies both extremes.
Be humble and take criticism, but also realize that most people don't know what the fuck they even really want - or know the first thing about gamecraft. Neither do most indie devs for that matter. Be willing to experiment, but make sure the changes work - which is hard to do on a shoestring budget.
In all cases, the time you spend flinging shit on the internet to random strangers is time you could be putting into making a better game. If you have to engage at all, use it to relay project milestones and roadmaps. If you're going to address a specific concern brought up by feedback - do it through a wall. Don't engage with people individually.
698383 No.16700401
>>16699730
Zero suit is shit, give me back my sports bra.
d9ff07 No.16700425
Duke nukem didn't wear any tacticool armor,
88ce84 No.16700481
>>16693198
Don't worry, it won't.
69231d No.16700490
>>16699730
>Honestly, half naked looks stupid as fuck. It always looked retarded and annoying whenever you saw them.
So does a woman being an actually competent fighter, but you wouldn't whine about that, would you cuck?
b40cc0 No.16700501
>>16700206
I'm so damn sick of devs locking their Steam version of games even when they make a goddamn GOG release.
>anyone wanting to pirate can get the GOG version in 2 minutes
>but they require being connected to steam for the steam version to run anyway
>i now have to use some goddamn cracked steam.dll which insists on making some useless junk directory somewhere
>pirates don't care about this because they got the GOG copy
>people just playing with steam don't care because they're using steam
>the 1% of people that just happen to want to play the game without steam with a steam copy are presented with a minor inconvenience
For what fucking purpose?
81281b No.16700587
>>16699937
>Apparently nobody can tell that you can't draw if you draw it in 32x32 instead.
why do you think so many indies go for le pixel art? Did you really believe them when they said it was because "art".
342925 No.16700598
>>16700501
Most normalfags are too ignorant, scared, and stupid to pirate a game.
81281b No.16700599
>>16700501
Because cloud saves & workshop. Steamdrones throw a fit if they don't have those, and they require the full implementation of steamworks (thus the DRM).
698383 No.16700925
>>16700599
Steam has Cloudsaves?
Why would anyone throw a fit over those? It doesn't really seem like such an important feature.
71c2bc No.16701390
>>16700092
>Ion Maiden just doesn't have that. Nothing feels realistic or grounded, it just feels like a city-themed string of hallways and blockages with no real thought in ambience or flow.
Yep, nailed it anon. The demo level is actually pretty linear, and also doesn't telegraph well what you should do or where to go. Even with their complex and labirinthine design, I never really got lost or stuck in DN3D levels, even if I did I'd eventually find a way out on my own. But playing the Ion Maiden demo level, I admit I got stuck on two occasions and had to look up gameplay videos to know what I should do.
Still, maybe the level design in the final product will be better. Not counting on it, but I'll check it out.
>>16700599
>>16700925
Cloud save support is a very important feature to the steamdrones for some reason. There are lots of games on Steam with strong negative ratings for the sole reason of not having cloud save support.
42f329 No.16701400
>>16701390
Really? Could you give an example? I have seen games(particularly Thief I think) get downvoted for not having cards or achievements.
7e7e1d No.16701428
>>16701390
>Still, maybe the level design in the final product will be better. Not counting on it, but I'll check it out.
When has this ever been the case? Every shooter always frontloaded their best levels, even the good ones.
98c723 No.16701508
>>16684948
I knew it, I fucking knew it as soon as I saw the design for the protag, I can just smell the poz in certain types of "female blandness".
71c2bc No.16701516
>>16701400
>Really? Could you give an example?
Can't give an example since I simply don't remember any particular case, and I won't be assed to look it up. But I swear I'm not bullshitting you. I did notice one just last week, but don't remember which game. It usually happens to mid-sized indie games.
And yeah people do downvote for not having trading cards or achievements, though these don't seem to trigger them as much as not having cloud saves.
I admit that up to this day I don't even understand what these "steam trading cards" are or how they work, not that I care to. All I know is that some people seem to be able to make money off them somehow
>>16701428
True, that's why I say I'm not counting on it.
9b491f No.16701518
>>16699637
I think C looks best. I really like those short jeans.
d856ea No.16701551
>>16699637
Honestly, the only one that's better than M is A and maybe B. Everything else is either overdesigned or into the dominatrix scene, which is an acquired taste. If you want to make her sexy, then keep it simple and don't give her eighteen beltstraps.
42f329 No.16701560
>>16701516
>>16701516
>I admit that up to this day I don't even understand what these "steam trading cards" are or how they work, not that I care to. All I know is that some people seem to be able to make money off them somehow
From what I understand once you collect a set(by trading money or other steamshit) you can create a badge which gives you steam account EXP which levels up your steam account. What does your steam account do? No clue.
But you can make some money off them by going to the marketplace and selling them, but cards are sub-0.1 cents so you're gonna take a while. You get them by just playing a game.
c8cbc9 No.16701701
>>16686588
even w40k make female marauder/soldier/female Judge dredd or whatever more apealing
1a10dc No.16701720
>>16684948
They must be ashamed of Bombshell because everyone forgot about it upon release. Surprised they went back to female protag again but it's just a reskin of duke nukem. It's not that hard to fuck up duke nukem unless the development last forever and you trust Randy Pitchford.
c283fb No.16701751
>>16686414
>"practical" armor
Women in "practical" armor looks stupid because
WOMEN WOULDN'T BE IN ARMOR AT ALL
WOMEN WOULD NEVER BE FIGHTING AT ALL
WOMEN are WOMEN, NOT MEN. They do not have the biological capabilities as men, and any given modern man-jawed UFC female fighter would get gangraped by ISIS in hand-to-hand combat, let alone Medieval armored infantry who waged war on the daily.
Women cannot fight men equal to their stature (male UFC would decimate female UFC, etc. hence "women's league" because they factually cannot compete with men). I like women in my RPG party, too, and female fighting characters are great, but unless you have magic in your setting (or if they aren't half-bred with orc DNA or something), then it makes no "practical" sense.
You want to talk about realism? Have a woman get sold into slavery when the idiot wanted to pull a Mulan during a wartime skermish. Otherwise, you either stop caving into "well, if it's for a genuine aesthetic" nonsense to tolerate this abject stupidity or you just let bygones be bygones and have our fun with titty armor.
tl;dr women in combat with men at all, especially during the days of armor, is already impractical and stupid, so let's just have fantasy armor and be done with it.
e6eb88 No.16701759
>>16701751
>>16686414
I have the perfect picture of this.
I also want to play almost naked barbarians with bulgy leather underwear.
930c5e No.16701761
>>16701751
Don't waste your breath, or finger muscles in this instance. You're talking to a cuckservative/centrist, and there is nothing more subhuman than that. It's pointless to even attempt to use reason and logic since they are completely and utterly devoid of capacity to process such arguments.
They're the same animals that will defend Imperial Guard regiments having women in their ranks, or shitskins ruining 40k for everyone, because the "enlightened" stance to take (or at least the one that will make them look the most "intelligent" according to their low animal cunning). Hell, I've seen plenty of them defend women in the military by kvetching they should be allowed in if they "can make the cut", completely ignoring all other resulting issues, or the simple fact inordinate amounts of resources would need to be spent to find those women in "peak" physical condition that can match mediocre male recruits.
e1e85d No.16701776
>>16701770
The exception proves the rule, good job.
930c5e No.16701777
>>16701770
Please kill yourself you stupid, ignorant fuck.
>>16701776
Joan of Arc never led troops into battle and never swung her sword in anger. She even said herself she never used a weapon on another human as part of her defense during her trial.
56598e No.16701779
>>16701720
I forgot to give a shit about this janky piece of garbage during the second level.
930c5e No.16701782
>>16701701
You're the reason 40k is going to shit.
>>16701720
>but it's just a reskin of duke nukem
With none of the charm, appeal or creativity. She's so fucking bland and uninteresting, and it's deliberate because the cowardly vermin making this turd are afraid of purple-hairs braying in their direction.
No wonder enemy and level design is equally bland and uninteresting, this is being made with people that have no faith in their product and are merely cashing in on a trend.
42f329 No.16701787
>>16701779
She's a lesbian in that game, wasn't she? With the fucking president of the united states?
f1a4a6 No.16701792
>>16701779
That's the least of this games issue, one very god example is that it relies on the original KB mapping which is trash to advance some scripts in the game so if you're changing those you can get stuck without knowing why.
That and making you fall through floors for no reason
c8cbc9 No.16701829
>>16701782
have you read shira's book? or are you just saying because "muh girl with short hair, must be SJW"
930c5e No.16701839
>>16701829
>fuckwit that uses Joan of Arc as example of stronk womyn warrior now defends the pozzing of 40k
>defends action books with female protagonists
>is likely a Joss Whedon clone that wishes for a strong mommy to come along and stop the bullies from hurting him
When will you stop embarrassing yourself?
7e7e1d No.16701841
>>16701829
Just fucking kill yourself already you worthless embarrassment.
c8cbc9 No.16701852
>>16701839
>>16701841
"didn't read lol"
fucking go back to reddit or your containment board you fucking monkey.
930c5e No.16701861
>>16701852
>stronk womyn are totally heterosexual
>40k needs to become a mature hobby for mature individuals such as myself you misogynerds
t. male feminist
c8cbc9 No.16701912
>>16701861
you should really stop strawmaning
or should i say … strawMANning :^)
no but seirously you guys are retarded, to the point of calling someone a feminist just because he is dispoving a retard saying
>NO WOMAN EVER FOUGHT. EVER
In an argument about practical armor in fantasy…
When it's historicaly accurate that there has been women fighting in war. Sure it was more of an exception but it still happend. But you also:
<You had the Tomoe Gozen in japan (obviously, a minority)
<You also had the gladiatrix in Rome.
sure it was not for war and it was for entertainment, a show, but the retard i was responding to said "no fighting , ever."
So killyourself, you guys are more easely triggered than SJW. Like a vegan in a butcher shop.
And again: read Shira Calpurnia Omnibus before calling this SJW.
>>16701777
Joan of Arc rallied the troop of france and the exiled king to rise up against the corrupted nobility who sold themself to the british. Not every warrior are foot soldier.
21954f No.16701924
>>16701912
How does any of this explain how any armor made for women can be considered "practical".
930c5e No.16701939
>>16701912
>women picking up weapons as a last ditch effort not to get raped and gutted is proof they're competent warriors
>despite the whole of human history and all practical studies on the matter proving otherwise
40k cuck is a confirmed retard. We'll live to see female space marines thanks to subhumans like you. I bet you're a Tau faggot as well.
>gladiatrix
Please, please just stop. I know you think you're smart because some kike with a degree at university cited a lot of books written by other kikes about the glorious martial history of women, but all you're doing is making yourself look even dumber than you already are.
>the exiled king
>to rise up against the corrupted nobility
Do you get your whole knowledge of history from watching Hollywood movies?
>Not every warrior are foot soldier.
She was neither a warrior nor a foot soldier. She was a glorified cheerleader, and at least she had the good grace to know this, unlike stupid fucks like you.
42f329 No.16701957
>Gladiatrix
Wasn't that an erotic novel series?
930c5e No.16701979
>>16701957
Fancy name for female gladiators. What the cuck fails to mention is that they were never seen as professional fighters such as male gladiators were, nor were they ever trained as such. They were part of novelty events, there more to titillate the public by dressing them up lewdly than to actually provide an interesting fight.
Naturally, as with every other instance of female "fighters" the leftist vermin love to exaggerate their prowess, popularity or numbers and pretend they were either effective as a fighting force or an established part of the society they ostensibly belonged to.
1cdba9 No.16701995
>>16701912
The only reason anyone wants female space marines is purely because they want to masturbate to them. The very nature of a Space Marine would make her a muscled up freak.
7e7e1d No.16701996
>>16701979
So the women's wrestling of Rome.
42f329 No.16702000
>>16701996
THE DIVA'S REVOLUTION
IT'S 2019 THE GIRLS CAN WRESTLE THE BOYS TOO YOU KNOW
Is WWE still pushing that shit or did they give up?
c8cbc9 No.16702001
>>16701924
>How does any of this explain how any armor made for women can be considered "practical".
dude … heh, ok i guess you really got used to the "BREASTplate" and the boobs armor, so let me clarify:
Male and FEMALE armor are THE SAME
That's what the painting of joan of arc is showing. That's what any historical depiction are showing and what >>16686414 shows.
Full plate armor, by design fit both male and female form. For example: the chestplate: the plate does nto sit flat on your chest and formes more of a dome. Why? because it was practical and gave a much better chance of deflecting a strike.
Chainmail also fit both because it's basicallya robe of.. well mail.
Having said that: obvisouly almost no female wore armor. But if thay wanted to (aka: if they had the money too) they would and could without having to make a special fit.
Tl;DR
> by design full plate are practical and fit both male and female because they are not fucking spandex suit.
>only for sex apeal did we create literal "BREASTplate" and "female armor" that are both stupid (=useless) and impratical (no deflection)
but that's ok since in each fo theses instances (like the bikini armor) it's just fiction.
abca5f No.16702004
>>16701751
>But muh women in combat isn't "realistic"
Nice blog, but I didn't say anything about realism though.
7e7e1d No.16702007
>>16702004
Take your asspain back to tumblr.
abca5f No.16702012
930c5e No.16702013
>>16701996
Pretty much. They mostly fought against animals, which is something other non-gladiator slaves thrown in the arena did as well, usually being viewed as a rather gruesome death sentence.
This tells us that they were viewed as highly expendable, unlike proper gladiators that had a lot of money invested in their training, nutrition, marketing, etc.
>>16702001
>still ignores the fact that women have no need for "practical" armor because they make for shit fighters
I guess it takes a special kind of retard to be a male feminist.
abca5f No.16702014
>>16702007
I'm not fighting you on your home turf.
48450f No.16702016
>>16699637
>it's either a tasteless bimbo or an ugly dyke
I honestly can't decide what's worse.
930c5e No.16702022
>>16702014
>can't argue against the core argument that demanding realistic armor for women first requires justifying women as a fighting force
You're a faggot and get upset at the sight of tits and ass, just admit it so we can all move onto more worthwhile discussion.
21954f No.16702028
>>16702001
> Male and FEMALE armor are THE SAME
So they are all made for men, you kike loving retard. A woman wearing a man's outfit doesn't make it a woman's outfit. It's made to fit a man. If you'd ever worn anytime of protection you'd know that something being big enough for you to wear doesn't make it practical. Maybe you should scroll up and reread the post you're sperging over.
c8cbc9 No.16702031
>>16701995
You can't have female space marines. the process to become a space marine is exclusively male. It's lore genetics …
You can only have the super priviledged sister of battle.
Anyone saying you can have female space marin is a retard.
But in the lore and when you see the imperium capabilities: female arbitre senoris are. (even if she is 1 head shorter than other arbitrator)
The only thing some retard here who escaped from their containment board would find remotely SJW about her is the fact that she come from a very old and prestigious family, with two of her brother who became ultrasmurf (one became a veteran and died during macragge). aka: "she is a special snowflake" except she couldn't care less about gaining rank or status..
930c5e No.16702035
>>16702031
>even if she is 1 head shorter than other arbitrator
>less reach
>less muscle mass
>less overall weight
>can easily be overpowered by men
>only got position because of nepotism
Yeah, sounds like the typical stronk womyn alright.
Any female fighter that isn't there for titillation, and especially the ugly, flat dyke you posted, is leftist propaganda.
42f329 No.16702056
>>16702016
What's wrong with bimbos anon?
21954f No.16702066
>>16702016
Tasteless, how?
c8cbc9 No.16702067
>>16702028
>A woman wearing a man's outfit doesn't make it a woman's outfit
when did i said it would be a woman outfit? armor is armor. Armor itself is not an outfit: it's a tool. like a sword, shield etc …
Only in asian or modern rpg do you see armor tailored for man or female armor that look like they stick to their skin and mold them making them either male or female.
>>16702013
>still ignores the fact that women have no need for "practical" armor because they make for shit fighters
who cares if it's a fantasy setting you dumfuck?
you think swordfighting is like in GoT? or any modern fantasy/medieval game?
Everytime you see a retard using full plate and a shield you know it's as retarded as a woman in bikini armor. but who cares if it's cool?
Same goes for pratical armor for female.
or magic
or fantasy swordfighting
or fantasy design (sword/armor etc)
or…
Somehow you get triggered as soon as it's about practical armor for female even in fiction. Yet, when people ask for practical armor for man instead of the gay korean stuff: you aren't complaining . i understand why, but remember this is fiction. We could also speak of the 1boob amazon or valkyria…
>>16702035
this webm is for you
being this retarded as to not understand the setting, how arbitrator are not just regular base human etc … how this is 40K …
mentioning retarded stuff like reach when you have long range weapons etc…
knowing fuck all
and implying stuff like she got to were she is thanks to nepotism when it's , like i said, quite the oposit (she is way underranked²²)
what's next ?"muh the girl in Ghost in the shell is unrealistic she is a wamen! "
²² Oh wait! the retarded /pol speech is coming, ready? => "so they she is underranked because it's a reference to the patrioarchy blocking her! so it's still SJW propaganda!"
This is becoming so much fun, SJW and you retards are so fun: you can go for both "ranked because priviledged" and "unraked because patriachy, glass wall" as you see fit and it work for both of you! You guys should marry. you are so alike.
1cdba9 No.16702070
>>16702031
>It's lore genetics …
Big E arbitrarily decided to make them all male because the Primarchs they hail from are warpcrafted pinocchios, if he really wanted to then whatever hurdles making them a girl could've easily been dealt with no problem. Again people who want female Space Marines just want to masturbate without thinking about the bulging muscle development would do to a girl.
c8cbc9 No.16702082
>>16702070
There was also the fact that male were more stable IIRC.
c8cbc9 No.16702097
>>16702070
>>16702082
oh and: making a female primarch would go against what the Emperor wish for humanity: he wants humanity to rule themself . Making female primarch could cause breeding and the generation of a race of superhuman that would replace mankind.
I mean: half rebelled… so it's not a stretch to think that if they were female: they would be "incest". i just hope GW won't fuck us in the ass and say the 2 missing legion are all female legion.. and lesbian at that
7d8cf6 No.16702101
>>16702001
> But if thay wanted to (aka: if they had the money too) they would and could without having to make a special fit.
I want to correct something here. Good armor is fitted to the individual. Both men AND women (if there were any of the latter) "have to make a special fit". Having the armor fitted precisely to the wearer improves both mobility and protection.
I don't know what actually goes into the fitting of armor, only that it was done. It seems entirely plausible to me that armor fitted to women solely for the the purpose of combat effectiveness might look noticeably different (at least to someone very familiar with armor). Not in terms of boobs of course, but more likely in the hips and shoulders.
42f329 No.16702108
>>16702097
Weren't the two missing legions/primarchs just GW's way of saying "your oc 30k legion/primarch might be canon for you"?
c8cbc9 No.16702121
>>16702108
not since you have 2nd and 3rd founding (hi blood ravens)
>>16702101
true, but if you take a regular(random) full plate armor: you have enouth leeway to make it fit both. Because it's not that close to the body but also because you are suppose to wear other stuff underneath. making your silouette: "unisexual" or to not trigger thoses from /pol : male
3b0cb1 No.16702196
>>16685111
Wait, this isn't a screenshot from Fallout 3?
978a8a No.16702219
>>16692308
>not licensing all your shit under Public Domain, GPL, modified BSD, or something else that respects EVERYONE'S freedoms
kys kike shill
9b491f No.16702223
>>16701701
even in 40K there is the sororitas repentia for sick fucks like myself who get off on this stuff.
21954f No.16702239
>>16702067
> it's a tool. like a sword, shield etc …
No, it's not you fucking faggot. Tools don't need to be fitted. Armor is something you wear, like an outfit. Have you even worn any sort of protective gear, you fucking shit eater?
>>16702121
>or to not trigger thoses from /pol
Not that I needed confirmation, but thanks for explicitly telling me you don't belong here.
c8cbc9 No.16702348
>>16702239
let me clarify what i mean here >>16702001 (You) by "they are the same"
They are the same by design. You are right they are fitted to the knight (in case of a full plate armor)
my point is: there won't be ANY design differences between male and female armor because they are the same and serve the same purpose.
The only Difference you will "see" during the creation of the armor are the same difference you see when two male order the creation of an armor.
It's not something >female specific<
I never said they are not an outfit, i said they aren't a female outfit. They are tools
If for you it can't be a tool because it must be fitted to the user and you think tools don't need to be fitted, i am sorry to break it up to you but you are wrong:
Even then thoses same knight would ask for custom build of sword (and before full plate: shield)
In our current day you can also for example ask for custom made scissors or knife. Are they an outfit now? (as well as all highly specialized tool?) well, outfit are tools in some way so…
Anyway, that's doesn't change my point, you are just playing with semantics
007006 No.16702588
>>16685155
I like blood a lot, I really did like night dive take on it, but it still needs more work, thankfully their working to do those. I really hope it gets more mods now.
c20f2a No.16702780
>>16701390
>Still, maybe the level design in the final product will be better. Not counting on it, but I'll check it out.
Heskel's House of Horrors pretty much confirmed the dogshit design of the levels to me. I don't know who is in charge of designing the levels, but they need to get someone who knows what they're doing, ASAP. The design is just awful.
For the team responsible for EDUKE32, you'd think they'd fucking understand Levellord's design principles. The optimist in me thinks, "That was early in the design process, they learned along the way." - but the realist in me knows that these fucks have had thirty years worth of map examples laid out for them, between shit that works and shit that doesn't.
d9ff07 No.16702943
>>16702223
Out of everything in warhammer 40k, all the autistic nonsense, nothing made it harder to suspend my disbelief than the repentia.
21954f No.16702992
>>>/v/16702348
Getting customized tools isn't remotely the same as getting armor fitted, and no, men and women aren't fitted the same. I'm done entertaining your pilpul. Fuck off with your feminist bullshit, schlomo.
00c7c0 No.16703147
>>16699637
I like E the best.
469a2a No.16703160
>>16699637
I like D the best cause I got a thing for girls in leather.
f1bd45 No.16703168
>>16703160
It's a crime to make a game with a female lead and not give players the option to dress her up in increasingly lewder costumes.
469a2a No.16703179
>>16703168
I agree. SJWs should be hung for their crimes!
057637 No.16703243
>>16687512
>he memorized a game through trial and error
>he feels gratified at his pavlovian conditioning
>he trades his accomplishments for social cred
>he projects his fears of failure on the outgroup
When has gaming become a comfort blanket for the insecure?
84d05f No.16703275
>>16699637
A > E > shit > rest
929193 No.16703284
>>16703241
>french's
a man of culture and taste
56598e No.16703294
>>16703275
A=C=E>D>F>rest
G is just a shitty stripper with a pistol
B is a pin-up girl
KLM are just lazy, L looks like a really shitty Striperella rip-off
e9c64e No.16703307
>>16702943
The emperor protects the T&A anon.
3ec653 No.16703358
>>16701939
>Joan of Arc
<not Joan D'Arc
So many missed missed opportunities
e50b5f No.16703359
>>16702001
You should look up the non photoshopped version of his photos.
d92f58 No.16703399
>>16702780
What's wrong with Heskel's House of Horrors? It feels more like a Thief level than anything.
84d05f No.16703400
>>16703294
besides A C and F the rest look like trashy hookers you find in road motels
469a2a No.16703401
>>16686283
Iron Maiden hasn't put out a good album since the 90s.
56598e No.16703432
>>16703400
>>16699637
You're telling E looks more like a hooker than C?
e9c64e No.16703532
>>16699637
A is in my opinion the perfect blend of sexy and cool.
E is a bit hard to see but it's there too.
The rest is meh, but D's leather getup is neat.
d7bb5c No.16703555
>>16699637
Top row is great, with B being the best. Also M really sticks out like a sore thumb, she looks pissed off at being surrounded by a bunch of women more attractive than her.
9e92ca No.16703562
>>16685031
>>16684948
These people are an embarrassment.
81281b No.16704693
>>16701516
>I admit that up to this day I don't even understand what these "steam trading cards"
It's sort of a ponzi, thought not exactly because it works more on the "envy to get more" dependence of the people.
Basically if a game has cards, you randomly get half of the total cards the game has by playing, you can then buy the rest on the store or, and this is the most important part, hope to get a "booster pack" (contains 3 cards).
This is where is get sightly complicated.
Booster pack are awarded to steam users "randomly" when someone crafts a badge, BUT your "steam level" grants you more chances to get a pack instead of someone else. Steam level is slightly raised by collecting shit, but it rises to exponential levels when you pay for games.
Badges are crafted by collecting all cards for a game and "assembling" them, giving you the "badge"(you can show it on your profile page) making your cards disappear in the process but giving you a few goodies related to the game like smileys using the game's characters to use in the steam chat and forums, and background images for your profile page.
So the more you buy games to more you get this stuff, but what gets people really all excited about this is that you can "sell" it all on the market (for steam bucks mind you, not actual money, but steamdrones can't make the difference). For some it's like a job that earns them free games.
81281b No.16704702
>>16702780
It doesn't take understanding the deep intricacies of the game/level design to make or remake an engine. Eduke32 is just a source port.
