cebe55 No.16672994
I finished Earthbound but felt like the experience was lowered than what it should have been, still enjoyed it though, just not as much as Mother 3.
634f65 No.16673008
Earthbound actually is just an overrated game
not bad, just overrated, so the "lowered experience" you had was from playing the superior game first, and hearing everyone rave about its prequel
>>16672999
if you do play the first game I'd recommend some kind of hack that makes it less tedious, it's one of the more impressive NES games the the encounter rate is horrendous
4e24e4 No.16673030
No. They're completely separate games in terms of story. Mother 3 has a way more linear progression, which may seem as a downgrade at first, but it actually makes the gameplay way more enjoyable as you didn't have to backtrack through bullshit like you did in Earthbound. Mother 3 has way more soul and animation than Earthbound as well, previous iterations felt stiff as fuck and not a lot of life to them.
Also this banner lul.
4e24e4 No.16673035
>>16673006
Chrono trigger is both a meme game and loved by tumblr as well.
I would dismissed the entirety of the JRPG sub genre as gay meme garbage and play actual RPG's like New Vegas and Dark Messiah (and possibly STALKER). They're way more fun as shit as you can actually choose how you tackle objectives.
e1d252 No.16673073
Mother 3 is commie propaganda. At least Earthbound is not so blatant.
2b315d No.16673075
>>16673035
This. Nip """""""""RPG"""""""""s are soy shit loved by Tumblr and are not real RPGs. There's a reason that JRPG is our most hated vidya genre.
>>16673006
>>16673022
Kill yourself
2b315d No.16673077
>>16673022
>>16673006
>>16672994
PLAY REAL RPGS FUCKING CUCKCHAN RETARDS
793163 No.16673087
>>16673035
>real RPGs
<like these two broken unfinished messes that nobody dares touch without an assload of mods and a meme game
I'll go play Chrono Trigger instead. At least it's functional.
7b6ac0 No.16673147
I mean other than some quality of life changes to the actual game part of it, it might spoil it but they stand on their own.
7d5183 No.16673183
>>16673090
>"based" and "redpilled"
Pic related
e78da3 No.16673191
>>16673183
Everybody knows the jew-demon is an uppity cunt that can't handle a joke.
4e24e4 No.16673218
>>16673178
>New Vegas
>Todd
Dumbass.
775909 No.16673324
>>16673075
>There's a reason that JRPG is our most hated vidya genre.
who do you mean by "our"?
01596d No.16673347
WRPGs are DnD campaigns without the player freedom.
b988a4 No.16673391
I preferred Earthbound, it just had more grandeur and felt like more of an adventure.
531646 No.16673398
Your problem was not having a mom who played Mother 2 and owning Mother 1+2 merch while you was a kid.
In other words, a lack of nostalgia. That and Mother 3 is a tighter experience.
bce604 No.16673503
So if Mother 3 ever does get localized, do you think people will get pissed when they call it “Earthbound 2”
f6a117 No.16674223
>>16672994
>Was playing Mother 3 before
Yes. You should have played Mother 1 before. It would have made the Time Passage even more satisfying.
e99c9e No.16674795
>>16673006
>>16673178
What game is she from?
ad7379 No.16674803
>>16673503
I don't think it can ever be localized with the story at all intact considering the heaps of adult themes in the game
d82ffd No.16674813
>>16674803
this, expect a lot of censoring on numerous shit and if NInty feels like it, removing or fucking up certain characters like the Magypsies because of MUH TRANSPHOBEEUH
9b5275 No.16674855
I like JRPGs but let it be known right know that even a somewhat mediocre WRPG like Neverwinter Nights 2 is far better than any JRPG as far as roleplaying games go. One can argue the story is better but that's only a case-by-case basis thing.
01596d No.16674874
>>16674855
<I like JRPGs but
You're not fooling anybody, Codexnigger.
011ee1 No.16674887
No, because Mother 2 is the best one in the series and fuck tripe ass niggas who say otherwise. SHOULD have played M1 > M3 > M2, but it's fine.
d1dc1b No.16674899
>>16674855
wrpg tend to be janky garbage with ugly visuals ,mediocre mechanics and a garish mess of an UI.
deb73f No.16674923
Why the fuck would you play them out of order? This has been one of my favorite series since childhood and I have never heard of anybody doing this. You are a literal retard kill yourself immediately
deb73f No.16674929
>>16673006
Why do newfags think any good old game is tumblr now? You guys do know you have to be at least 18 to post here right?
bd9180 No.16674947
>>16674929
It's backwards logic. Tumblr shit like that is usually "inspired" by Earthbound, so they fall under the delusion that it must be the cause of Tumblr-style games — or that because people who make said games are fans of Earthbound, it must be that they are the ONLY fans of Earthbound. It's a retarded way of thinking, but that doesn't let garbage fandom-bait shit like Undertale off the hook either.
e2652c No.16674955
>>16673008
You know about Mother1/Earthbound Zero if you grind heavy in the first area you are a god by the time you get to dreamland. It really forces you to level fast and then you can naturally progress fighting enemies easily there on in.
afebd3 No.16674969
It's interesting how in the west it's:
Mother 3 > Mother 2 > Mother
But in Japan it's:
Mother > Mother 2 > Mother 3
011ee1 No.16674975
Just saying, but skipping Mother is completely understandable. The game is really rough and really fucking bad. In the final area of the game every fight is an RNG struggle.
Battle begins, enemy casts paralyse. If it successfully paralyzes your entire party you instantly get a game over.
Battle begins, enemy casts kamikaze/explosion. This was before the Mother 2 slide wheel, so you could easily die.
deb73f No.16674983
>>16674975
Mother 1 was the easiest game by far once you got the robot
afebd3 No.16674990
>>16674975
>In the final area of the game every fight is an RNG struggle.
There is actually a trick I thought up to get through most of the mountain easily.
Just use teleport to move around. It will eat up PP but you can avoid most encounters.
>>16674855
Jrpgs just feel like western rpgs with all of the roleplaying take out.
You get your characters who are already fleshed out and there are no real choices.
011ee1 No.16674999
>>16674990
>Just use teleport to move around. It will eat up PP but you can avoid most encounters.
Does that work inside the cave too? This really would have helped me years ago when I played through M1, it was harsh but I managed to beat it.
d1dc1b No.16675017
>>16675007
earthbound is great and you're a dipshit.
deb73f No.16675023
>>16675007
You clearly have never payed it. You clearly are 12 with a rotting brain. Why bring up tumblr? That has nothing to do with Earthbound and has zero effect on the series. It was made way before they existed.
a0230d No.16675024
>>16674969
JRPGs started as plagiarism of Ultima, Mother was kind of a satire of the RPGs of the time, but also an original idea by introducing a modern world with kids.
afebd3 No.16675026
>>16674999
IIRC there are a lot of twists and turns so probably not.
I only used it on the mountain itself.
dbc39f No.16675034
Ive played through half of Mother1 on my android, but I gotta say the encounter rate is high, but not too much of a hassle if youre watching something else while grinding (especially in the beginning) . Earthbound is overrated but still good. It has a pretty decent understanding of Western culture and Mythos, complete with charming graphics and a great OST. Mother 3 is better in every way, except the music which is still pretty good.
35fba9 No.16675037
Mother 3 is a shit stain of a game that pushes the lgbtqwertybbqwtf+ shit harder than any other nintendo game, on top of a pro-gommie story and an utterly bland cast. God bless Reggie for keeping this filth off American shores.
35fba9 No.16675048
>>16673324
It means he's a loser 14yo who discovered this site in June and is fucking desperate to fit in because he's an awkward garbageheap of a human being with no social circle beyond his ugly smother mother, that's what he means.
>>16673347
This, wrpg's are all generic as fuck and a pale imitation of a pale imitation of LOTR and the Elric saga.
<But muh ass effect
Ripping off gene roddenberry ain't any better cumsleeves.
>>16674801
Anon don't feed summerfags, you're supposed to watch them wither and die off.
9b5275 No.16675078
>>16675037
>t. never played Mother 3
But I'm feeling gullible today so I'll take your shit bait anyways.
>lgbt shit
You mean the Magypsies? The cross-dressing men (who clearly look like men) and are made fun of and clearly ridiculed?
>pro-gommie story
Don't know where you got this from. Tazmilly village was a small enough place where everyone just did their own work which would allow themselves and their neighbors to eat and live another day in peace. There's no need for any economic format in such a small village that runs on the honor system with people who all know eachother by name.
>Utterly bland cast
This just seems like a shitty opinion to me. Flint was great, the Arab guy was a good villain, Porky was Porky, the main party got more character development than the parties from previous games, etc. All around more memorable supporting cast than the previous games had - certainly more than Mother 1.
b935d9 No.16675079
>>16672994
For me playing the game in this order made me like Earthbound MORE. It holds up to Mother 3 very well with its own set of strengths. I'd say I was far more engaged in moment to moment combat and the environments in Earthbound. Mother 3 only has moments of actual challenge and worthwhile settings.
deb73f No.16675100
>>16675037
jesus fucking christ you're retarded. The trannies for purely for comedic effect.
2c0f05 No.16675118
>>16673006
>which was never released here
At least we have that fan translation from the early 2000s
19edb5 No.16675323
Earthbound is the most overrated underrated game of all time, if that makes any sense. It's clear that even after Mother was a fuckup, they barely learned anything when making the sequel aside from problems with the maps and encounter rates. It's also clear it's directed by somebody who doesn't know shit about video games. Mother 3's N64 version absolutely had the same problem, it took a bunch of ex-Square guys to make the game come out good on the GBA, and it's a really strong title because of that. Not to mention Itoi probably took the intervening years to understand what the fuck a computer is. Did you know he didn't know how to use a computer, so he made some guy listen to him as he told him all the shit Giygas would say? He made the dude cry. Look it up. Earthbound's real strong point is the ending. And I don't mean the Giygas shit. I mean the part after where you go around the world and just talk to people. Very few games let you do anything like that.
deb73f No.16675344
>>16675323
You're right it wasn't made by some nerdy autist it was made by a normie celebrity which is why the story and characters are well liked and ultimately what makes the game different. Don't pretend Itoi didn't work all night and all day on this game
35fba9 No.16675353
>>16675078
Lucas gets his psi powers unlocked by taking it up the ass from a tranny in a hot spring, kumatora and duster are boring as fuck and so was the distraught dad character, and
<but muh small village of fwends
is a retarded fallacy ebcause history has proven even small villages will implement their own currencies based on scarcity. I'm sorry you're a faggot, but your taste in vidya is terrible and you've wasted your time lying to yourself.
deb73f No.16675401
>>16675353
The characters in 3 were the most fleshed out in the series. you're not even trying. Only an autist discusses releastic economic settings in a video game
e2652c No.16675490
>>16675353
>Muh realistic societies in a videogame
How is that crippling life destroying autism working out for you?
3d8342 No.16675547
>>16673035
There are no actual video game rpgs. The medium doesn't allow for the player freedom necessary for an actual rpg.
>>16674855
My main gripe with western rpgs is that their worlds are usually really shitty compared to Japanese ones. They usually consist of dank, dark caves/dungeons, rundown and dirty villages/cities, and miles of barren wilderness that's just there to make the game feel bigger than it really is. This isn't helped by most npcs in these games doing nothing but standing around talking about how shit everything in their world is. Even doing quests for them and helping them out doesn't really make life much better for them. I guess that kind of stuff is supposed to be gritty and realistic but it sucks out all the fun for me. Who wants to explore a world like that? It feels like digging around in a trashcan. There are certainly exceptions, but these types of worlds are by far the most common in crpgs.
It's kind of ironic that my favorite crpg is Arcanum considering that game is epitome of this kind of world design, but the writing is strong enough to justify it all.
afebd3 No.16675577
>>16675323
>so he made some guy listen to him as he told him all the shit Giygas would say?
>He made the dude cry. Look it up.
I'm genuinely interested but have no idea how to search for this information
bce604 No.16675578
>>16675547
Genres are fucking retarded, whatever. I consider JRPGs and WRPGs to be two different genres entirely anyways and everyone else should too. If people wanna categorize them all under just “RPGs” that’s fine too I guess.
The real thing people should be debating is whether or not Zelda is an RPG.
3fe720 No.16675582
I don't understand why a portion of the community (both here and elsewhere) acts like Earthbound is the reason for all the shitty, pretentious, "2deep4u" indie cinematic experiences that have flooded the market in recent years. That game is pretty innocuous, all things considered. It's more or less a kid on a Saturday morning adventure. It was always MOTHER 3 that tried to sell itself on being said auteur experience.
3d8342 No.16675594
>>16675582
I don't think it was Earthbound itself that influenced pretentious indie shit, but rather the retarded fan theories people came with about that game and others.
4e24e4 No.16675595
I will say anyone who pushes the gay
>mother 3 was pro commie
Garbage is immediately a suspicious retard with an agenda to push. It's anti-commercialism with an army of soviet-like forces invading a 99% white village and corrupting it.
You could say the game is more pro Conservatism or even pro National Socialism than it pro-commie.
d1dc1b No.16675606
>>16675588
What a fucking retard.
34691c No.16675609
>>16675577
>>16675323
that anon is half-right
>Giygas's dialogue was created by both himself and a staff member Matchan Miura. Since Itoi did not know how to use computers at this time, the two of them would sit alone in a room with Itoi speaking the dialogue one Japanese letter at a time and Matchan typing in on the computer and it being displayed in hiragana. Itoi would then look at the screen and give Miura instructions on what to change, and a section would be finished once Itoi was impressed and they both were almost in tears.
a5a2a2 No.16675984
>>16673075
my most hated genre is gatchshit though followed by Battle Royales
a5a2a2 No.16675987
>>16675595
At most its nasbol eco-fash
60bb8f No.16677866
>>16675987
It's not Nazbol, it's centrist.
215dc8 No.16678477
>Seeing a faggot that hates EB in this thread again.
Always one or 2 sad little bitches who dislike this masterpiece.
>>16673006
Chrono Cross > Chrono Trigger
Just saying.
>>16675323
I'll agree the ending is some of the best shit ever. Ridding your bike in the swamp was great.
I find it funny that you think anyone should care that Itoi didn't know how to use a computer though.
215dc8 No.16678600
>>16678573
Its by no means a perfect game and is rough around the edges in some areas. But man does it have some good parts. I for one enjoyed what happened to the main characters after they grew up even if it wasn't a happy ending.
1c4927 No.16678661
I want to fill Kumatora with my baby batter
077952 No.16679204
>>16678477
>I find it funny that you think anyone should care that Itoi didn't know how to use a computer though.
It's just programmers venting their jealousy of based ideachads.
f1a4c0 No.16679377
playing Earthbound for the first time right now. Kinda surprised by how engaged I am with the game currently. Not sure if it's good or not but the music and environments are comfy and I'm strangely compelled to keep playing. Also automatically winning when the creature is a much lower level is something almost every fucking turn based RPG should have. I'm usually not one for streamlining gameplay but unless you're going to make a lightning fast UI with no bullshit I'm completely for less waiting.
Also how the fuck do I save outside of my house? I was told there were phones but I've yet to find a single one in any town.
>>16673006
>secret of mana
>good
At least play Evermore newfag.
d4be39 No.16679394
>>16679377
>Not sure if it's good or not but the music and environments are comfy and I'm strangely compelled to keep playing
That's about right for your first time. The game is amazing at keeping you engaged
>How to save
Payphones can be found in convenience stores and a couple places on the street. Look for regular phones in hotels
fbbde3 No.16679652
>>16673006
>>16672994
Every JRPG becomes unplayable once you realise you don't ever need to do anything but press a and occasionally heal.
>Wrong! In Kusai Hage Manko: XL4thWav3 you need to use tandem attacks and the skill system is super robus...
Fuck off. You just need to press a. I could do all that shit, but you don't ever need to. Utter failure of game design. It's just a visual novel with the illusion of gameplay to make you feel less guilty about it.
*blows smoke from gun*
*chuckles*
*vanishes into thin air with magic*
077952 No.16679724
>>16679652
Every FPS becomes unplayable once you realise you don't ever need to do anything but click the mouse and occasionally aim.
>Wrong! In Firebattle 5: Cyka Blyatt you need to use tandem mouse clicks and the gun upgrade system is super robus…
Fuck off. You just need to click the mouse. I could do all that shit, but you don't ever need to. Utter failure of game design. It's just an action movie with the illusion of gameplay to make you feel less guilty about it.
*blows smoke from gun*
*chuckles*
*vanishes into thin air with magic*
da9e15 No.16679740
>>16679652
>>16679724
Every game is a roleplaying game because you play the role of your character
572ab3 No.16679780
>>16679724
Every movie becomes unwatchable when you realise you're just looking at pixels moving around instead of live people.
e1d252 No.16679786
>>16679724
This isn't even trolling. You're dead on. That's all you do in any FPS is click the fucking mouse. It's all about who can move their mouse pointer and click faster. And they call that shit gameplay. I can't believe zoomerniggers waste time on that shit.
572ab3 No.16679801
>>16679786
>all competitive games are just about who can press the keys/mouse buttons faster
a1887b No.16679810
>>16679724
Every 2D platformer becomes unplayable once you realise you don't ever need to do anything but hold right and occasionally jump.
>Wrong! In New Ultra Shane the Man X8: Episode II U Deluxe for Nintendo Switch you need to use tandem leaps and the momentum system is super robus…
Fuck off. You just need to hold right. I could do all that shit, but you don't ever need to. Utter failure of game design. It's just a cartoon with the illusion of gameplay to make you feel less guilty about it.
*blows smoke from gun*
*chuckles*
*vanishes into thin air with magic*
f1a4c0 No.16679903
>>16679724
Every food becomes uneatable once you realise you don't ever need to do anything but pick it up and occasionally eat it.
>Wrong! In Paris: France you need to use tandem ingredients and the culinary knowledge system is super delici…
Fuck off. You just need to slam food on a plate. I could do all that shit, but you don't ever need to. Utter garbage of human functions. It's all just a fast food scheme with the illusion of being edible to make you feel less guilty about it.
*blows mustard off hot dog*
*chuckles*
*vanishes into thin air with Crème fraîche*
93d242 No.16693034
>>16675609
That's pretty interesting
b1680e No.16693155
>>16679377
>Evermore
>better than SoM
b19f9d No.16693219
>>16674947
yume nikki was inspired by earthbound but it's not tumblr
but undertale is inspired by yume nikki and earthbound but screams tumblr
how is this so?
f1a4c0 No.16694163
>>16693155
It is by a metric beyond 100%.
f1a4c0 No.16694903
>>16693296
>all that argument
kek
bd9180 No.16695121
>>16693219
Exactly as I explained; being inspired by Earthbound doesn't mean something will have that Tumblr style. People just associate the two because a lot of Tumblr style things also claim to be inspired by Earthbound. Which they might well be, but styles are filtered through the creator's sensibilities. Even though both of those games are inspired by the same source, they are still primarily influenced by the creators rather than the inspiration. Think of it like this: if two different people set out to make a sandwich, they're both using the same basic idea. But they'll both probably make something different in all respects (different proportions, ingredients, bread, etc.) because tastes vary.
The reason Toby Fox made such a shit interpretation is because he's the sort of faggot that was pandering to an audience — a group of which he was a part. I might be mistaken, but I believe he was deeply involved in Homestuck prior to making his own game. He was making his game for those people. The sorts of people with role-playing "ask blogs," the sorts of people who argue day and night about "ships" and head canons and fanfictions, the sorts of people who make "AU" versions of things (hell, Toby Fox's last game was literally just an alternate universe version of Undertale for fuck's sake). He made it specifically in such a way as to appeal to those Tumblr faggots, basically. It worked, too. It ticked every box for those sorts of insufferable faggot, and they launched him to fame and fortune. Earthbound may have inspired him, but it was never the main impetus behind what he did nor was it the primary influence on the final result.
f1a4c0 No.16695294
>>16695121
he was deeply involved in Homestuck prior to making his own game.
The sans boss theme was a Homestuck project initially if I recall.
f1a4c0 No.16695296
Forgot the meme arrow to quote. My bad.
b19f9d No.16695476
>>16695294
there is no doubt about it the creator of homestuck said he started work on undertale living in his basement. and toby used to an undertale fan musician.
9b5275 No.16695527
>>16695256
She saved herself until Lucas got a bit older then married him and finally after a long reception they made love and 9 months later Kumatora gave birth to two beautiful twins.
d3ebce No.16695626
>>16673006
>People on Tumblr like a good game so now I can't like it
You think anyone on Tumblr would know what Earthbound was it it wasn't for the explosive success of undertale which massively ripped off it?
bd9180 No.16695851
>>16695847
Thank (You) for sharing your opinion, friend.
d3ebce No.16695852
>>16695847
Ohh you're baiting me I get it now.
3bbd1b No.16695872
>giving a shit about the fanbase of a 1995 single player game
>still fuming over undertale after 4 fucking years
will /v/ ever stop being full of braindead niggers?