b46438 No.16665079
Is the Dragon Age series worth a playthrough if I never really likes any rpgs outside of gothic and witcher 1?
89ba2b No.16665085
Origins + DLC is good
The rest is shit.
06df63 No.16665089
dc5168 No.16665092
b603a0 No.16665094
>>16665085
This. DAO was genuinely good in a lot of ways. DA2 was garbage. DA3 was some bizarre wannabe-MMO with some of the worst writing I have ever seen, a tremendous amount of nonsensical retcons, and a fucking musical number.
f34fce No.16665095
>>16665079
>if I never really likes any rpgs outside of gothic and witcher 1
No, what you need is an adventure game with xp progression, not an rpg. Gothic and Witcher barely an rpg.
3da36a No.16665102
985c56 No.16665107
>>16665079
The series? No. Just Origins.
And that's if you enjoy the Neverwinter Nights type of combat.
If you entertain thoughts of playing the other games, you only need to look at this picture to see the kind of fanbase that shit like DA3 panders to.
1de324 No.16665116
>>16665085
This.
2 is a derivative bullshit hackjob with repeated areas and ugly retconning.
Cisquisiton is pozzed to hell and back and barely comprehensible.
4758b4 No.16665122
>>16665085
Does Origins have a self-contained story or is it one of those things where the writers ended on a cliffhanger and just assumed that there would be sequels and side stories out the ass for them to write.
1de324 No.16665132
>>16665116
Cisquis also has even more and uglier retconning than 2, some truly awful characters in both look and backstory, fags all over and a wannabe tranny.
>>16665122
Self-contained thankfully.
dc5168 No.16665139
>>16665122
>cliffhanger
Somewhat.
Technically it's all over and the world is safe for the next few hundred years or so, but there are some loose ends that I don't think they tied together even after 2 sequels.
If you don't mind a couple of side stories being unfinished, you're all good.
d9a101 No.16665151
>>16665079
Origins is good. Too bad the series ended there.
f153e9 No.16665162
DA2 has the best gameplay and is the most redpilled game bioware has ever made.
b603a0 No.16665187
>>16665162
Your bait game is weak
ba7314 No.16665223
It very much depends on your 'taste.'
abafd9 No.16665256
>>16665122
The main campaign is self-contained, with some loose ends as >>16665139 mentioned. However, most of these are tied in the awakening expansion, where you MC becomes the Baron of a fiefdom if you don't become the royalty through the main campaign and dick around with high-level stuff and and a few more plot points around your companions and the main story.
DA2 has an intesresting story with more nuances than the original game, although it has a much smaller scope. It's an interesting rags to riches story with some interesting mechanics, such as a city with 3 different timezones, each with exclusive quest, enemies, etc…
Writing-wise, this has the least amount of annoying characters, and you often can dispose of those who are. There are some ridiculous plot-hooks in the last chapter of the game, but those probably indicate that the game was rushed.
Talking about rushed stuff, the biggest criticism this game gets is it's dungeon design, where the devs created a large map for each type of dungeon (dwarven ruin, city slums, creepy cave, etc…) and basically section that map for every single instance of that you go into different section of one of those places. I don't know if this is due to crunch or lazyness. Probably both.
The one good DLC for this game is The Exiled Prince, which definitely was some jewy way to charge you for an integral part of the game.
The gameplay is much more hack and slash than the first one. Personally, i don't like either, but there are some who prefer the second game in this regard.
4c1b0e No.16665291
DA:O was my babby's first RPG, I've beaten it at least 10 times and then beat it again when a difficulty ("rebabalancing") mod came out.
Then beat DA2 once and forgot about it, because it just didn't feel like the first game at all and not good enough by itself. It does have one thing I like: hardest difficulty was actually hard without mods.
Didn't even bother downloading the Inquisition.
832ec0 No.16665349
>>16665085
Yup, that's basically how it goes.
df1e8b No.16665358
the series? no
origin ? yes
88795e No.16665382
Just play Origins, continue with Awakenings if you enjoy the basegame and fnish off with Witchhunt. Don't go anywhere near DA2 or Cisqusition.
a16d4a No.16665413
>>16665107
DA2 Anders is a faggot and everything is his fault. Awakening Anders is okay. Also note how everyone is Bi. Yeah, solid writing there Bioware.
Dorian's whole point is "My daddy is a Tevinter Mage but he doesn't see me as gay because he doesn't accept me ending his ancestral line." That's it. Also a faggot.
Also there's no option to knockdown Kerm, I think, you're pretty much forced to accept it. Fuck if I care for replaying that part.
I'd still do pretty much anything for Liliana though, can't say no to a cute redhead with a troubled past.
>>16665079
As has already been said, DAO is classic bioware, so affection meters, character driven stories and some overarching goal and I like that kinda thing. Fade and Deep Roads can get a bit boring but when all the pieces come back in the 3rd act, you'll feel like a hero. So I'd say play and grab a few mods as well, like the one to include your dog as a side party member that doesn't count towards party limits.
Awakening is worth it because even though it's a short story, the extra abilities can get pretty ridiculous. There was one called Fade warrior or something that gave you bonus spirit damage and resistance to spells and made your character slightly transparent.
DA2 is pretty forgettable and was rushed out by EA when Bioware was making ME2. Not worth it as they really did copy paste dungeons and there really is nothing redeeming about it.
Inquisition plays like a single player MMO like Amalur did and got boring just as quick. I spent 80 hours in that the story is bad, characters flat and endless walking through shit with no pay off. Just bad. They also rewrote pieces of lore to insert ideology in Inquisition which is why I hate it.
eec9d7 No.16665539
>>16665358
This. I'd also recommend using the Combat Tweaks mod, even on your first playthrough. Half the skills are shit tier and the other half is split between god tier and so cheesy it breaks the game. The mod evens up the playing field.
5904d0 No.16665565
>>16665139
>>16665256
Maybe its just been too long since I played Origins last but I can't remember the loose ends you're talking about. Remind me?
dad8e7 No.16665583
278ed4 No.16665585
>>16665094
> DAO was genuinely good in a lot of ways
It makes me sad and bitter when i think about how much potential both the Dragon Age AND Mass Effect series had.
For fuck sakes they had a well-established low-fantasy setting that was easy to get into which is rare, usually it's crazy convoluted mess or as bland and dull as possible and then also something that had true potential to become the new Star Wars…
278ed4 No.16665612
>>16665256
>The gameplay is much more hack and slash than the first one
It could've been… tolerable but with enemies literally spawning out of thin air and behind you CONSTANTLY it got old and shit really quickly.
abafd9 No.16665655
>>16665565
Some minor stuff, really. What are Tevinter and Orlais? What exactly are the Deep Roads? Is magic really inherently harmful? etc…
>>16665612
I remember that being a thing in origins as well, though. Only cisquisition fixed this by making MMO-style enemies that walk in 10-meter circles. It is true that it is much more pronounced in this game since there are a lot more enemies in a lot less space, but since you move around all the time, i find it less annoying than it was in origins.
e475a4 No.16665671
>>16665256
>DA2 has an intesresting story with more nuances than the original game
No it fucking does not.
888a10 No.16665672
>>16665085
If you played Baldur's Gate, Origins lacks the sense of adventure completely and feels depressing instead. The setting sucks ass.
278ed4 No.16665688
>>16665655
Did Origins really have enemies spawning out of "thin air" apart from summons? I dont really remember anything like that in fact i remember you could for the most part plan your tactics ahead of time before going into combat as in enemies were mostly static in one place and didnt attack unless you got too close.
I may remember wrong but didnt 2 also have WAVES of spawns like you kill a few guys or the first group then another spawns outta nowhere then another etc…
>>16665672
>The setting sucks ass
It's fairly interesting if you're relatively new to the genre which i was back when it came out.
4c1b0e No.16665693
>>16665655
>Tevinter
Magocracy, homeland of blood magic and magisters. Plenty of small facts about it in codex and story.
>Orlais
Neighbouring country of some militant frenchfags and spies. Were at war with Ferelden.
>What exactly are the Deep Roads?
Dwarven mines.
>Is magic really inherently harmful?
It's magic, they don't have to explain shit.
2813c0 No.16665700
I'm a casual fuck when it comes to these type of games. DAO kicked my ass and yet its meant to be one of the easier tactical/squad RPGs out there.
a16d4a No.16665704
>>16665700
For a challenge I did an almost all mage run, so I used myself as a mage, Morrigan, mage tower ASAP to get Wynne and Leliana for any chests. Speced myself in elemental, Morrigan for crippling with hexes and stuff and Wynne for healing. Worked out better than I hoped. Also didn't change to Arcane Knight when given chance as that would have been cheating.
e235f2 No.16665709
Thinking of playing DAO. Played long time ago but didn't get to finish it. Liked that positioning was a very important part of many fights, specially in interiors for what I remember, but disliked that Warrior felt very boring, with little on the way of skills and using mostly stances, while mages were very fun. Perhaps though I just didn't have that much knowledge of the game to judge it right. I'm mainly concerned about the combat system, how is it? Also interested in how it compares to Baldur's Gate. Never played that game but I'm interested in doing so too. I'm mostly concerned about the combat system.
4c1b0e No.16665710
>>16665704
>For a challenge I did an almost all mage run
Nigger, that's the easy mode. Do a no mage run. People beat it with a solo rogue too. I'd recommend to use Flash's rebalance mod for challenge.
278ed4 No.16665713
>>16665693
>Tevinter
Did Cisquisition ever go into the whole… Black City or whatever it was that was their crazy as fuck city in the Fade if i remember right?
dc5168 No.16665715
>>16665565
Morrigan and her baby.
278ed4 No.16665720
>>16665700
There should be a mod in the DAO nexus that gives more depth into the system making it really neat. As in you can fiddle a lot more small details&things on to how your party acts in given combat situations not just the "in general" approach of the non-modded gaem.
4c1b0e No.16665727
>>16665713
>Did Cisquisition
Don't know and don't care.
1de324 No.16665740
>>16665565
-Morrigan's future god-babba is scarcely touched upon in Cis with no payoff.
-An actual permanent solution to the darkspawn turning up.
-Finding some way to unfuck the Golden/Black City or make 'The Maker' get the fuck over the fact that someone broke into his toybox.
-What Lyrium is actually is eventually explained in Cis (in one of the less awful storylines).
a16d4a No.16665754
>>16665740
>Titans, brotha.
Wut… Fukkin DLC. God damn it.
a16d4a No.16665805
>>16665754
>More than half the wealth of Orzammar comes from a single, extremely rare substance: Lyrium. The Chantry believes it to be the "Waters of the Fade" mentioned in the Canticle of Threnodies, the very stuff of creation itself, from whence the Maker fashioned the world. Only a handful of Mining Caste families hazard extracting the ore, finding veins in the Stone quite literally by ear. For in its raw form, lyrium sings, and the discerning can hear the sound even through solid rock.
This is the original codex entry in Origins. I always through that Lyrium was just magic given a solidified physical form, like how water turns into Ice, so did magic turn to Lyrium when something something. No, Inquisition claims that all Lyrium, except that tainted red stuff which was stupid in 2, is actually the blood of titans. They go on an adventure down into the deep roads, end up in some titan and that's where lyrium comes from and before you can ask anymore questions they shew you away.
I… yep. I just don't like it.
a47d23 No.16665810
>>16665223
>Bane’s Breakfast
For You.
54455e No.16665900
Boring stories, and trash romance options where all you have are whores, bi-fags, and masculine looking women. Not recommended.
87b608 No.16665991
Jesus Christ no. It's literally just trash mobs after trash mobs, awful characters and choices that don't matter.
4758b4 No.16666044
>>16665139
>>16665132
>>16665256
OK, thank you guys. I never paid attention to the game after the initial announcement (which had me very interested) because the title "Origins" made it sound like there were planning a trilogy or something like they did with Baldur's Gate, and the first game alone would just leave you hanging.
Origins is also the only game available on GOG. It's like even EA considers the other games shit.
e2a370 No.16666422
>>16665413
Based smudboy poster
5904d0 No.16666440
>>16665991
>choices that don't matter
You're wrong about everything else to varying degrees but this is where you're especially wrong you fucking retard.
Your choices matter a lot. The number and type of allies you have at the end of the game are a direct consequence. Depending of the quests you've done and the choices you've made you can having giant stone golems fighting alongside you or fucking werewolves. You can die a hero fighting the big bad or let someone else take the hit and become royalty.
There are tons of choices to be made throughout the game and all of them matter to varying degrees, but you're wrong when you say they don't matter at all.
eec9d7 No.16666546
>>16665709
Vanilla sucks. No reason to bring Warriors when you can freeze/shatter everything to death. The Combat Tweaks mod rebalances all that shit. But don't think for a second that it makes the combat great. It just makes an average combat into a decent combat. I don't know if there have been any other or better mods made in the past few years. But from my experience, the combat is way worse than BG2.
d6db05 No.16666790
Anyone got any mod recommendations for this shit?
9c5cd4 No.16667147
89ccea No.16668770
>>16665291
While I've also beaten Origins that many times, I'd say DA2 is a guilty pleasure of mine. The fact that the entire map is basically the city is something I crave for in RPG's. For example I loved the big cities in witcher 3 and 1. There's tons of shit to explore without having to travel forever to get to it. A secret around every corner if done right and to be fair, DA2 had that. Too bad it failed in every other regard but I still beat it 4 times
>>16666440
He's probably talking about 2.
ee9214 No.16668785
I only played Origins, but have some funny pics. Didn't the second DA increase the homo shit and the third one flat-out tell you you're evil for not worshiping trannies? And don't forget Hamburger Hepler.
dc73d2 No.16668791
>>16665079
No. Even the “good” one aka Origins is pretty damn middling in all aspects. It can be fun with mods though
870bdd No.16668804
>>16665107
>i love these games
<not because they're good but because they let me play as the worst kind of degenerate my sick mind can come up with
I wish videogames were still uncool. Being bullied and ostracized but having an untainted hobby is a million times better than still being bullied and ostracized while subhumans and normalfags rot it from the inside out
0f3a7b No.16668805
What are some good mods for origins?
ee9214 No.16668817
>>16668805
>What are some good mods for origins?
278ed4 No.16668934
>>16668805
>Advanced Tactics
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/181
Here you go you… you!
>mfw it was on the 2nd page of most endorsed, first being mostly shitty romance bullshit'n shit despite being THE mod to get if you want to really enjoy the game.
7ebcd5 No.16668948
>>16665079
>Is the Dragon Age series worth a playthrough
No. If you're interested pirate the first one. It's easily the best one, but even then it's not really great.
085bdd No.16668996
>>16665079
Lobotomized Neverwinter Nights 2 with an infinitely more simplified class/level system and a large marketing and thematic focus on being for the hardcore and mature audience.
I actually really like Origins but it's objectively inferior to it's predecessors.
1de324 No.16670685
>>16666044
The 'Origins' bit comes from the 6 different intro acts one for each race and class. Made replays a little less patience testing.
8d0710 No.16670802
Everyone else already said it but Dragon Age: Origins is the only game worth it. Idk what happened with Dragon Age 2 and 3. It's likely they just wanted to try to capitalize on the brand's success.
40954a No.16670841
Reminder Loghain did nothing wrong
050db3 No.16670852
>>16668996
bg2 was better, but no other bioshit game was better though.
916caa No.16670853
>>16666044
>Origins is also the only game available on GOG. It's like even EA considers the other games shit.
They're not wrong, but the actual reason that's the case is because DA:O came out before EA Origin. They weren't locking everything they release to their own platform yet, since it didn't exist.
62a615 No.16670866
Origins was fantastic, people who don't like it don't appreciate the style of play. It's basically grimdark FFXII.
>Everything else with Dragon Age on it that isn't Origins
Complete, irredeemable fucking garbage, it really is incredible.
111593 No.16670935
>>16665079
>>16665085
fpbp, only play origin avoid 2 and 3 like the plaque, don't even wonder about how 2 and 3 needed let your own imagination create the ending because story and its conclusion after the first game was shit and sour your taste for the first game.
f70249 No.16671777
>Reminder that if Bioware even survives to the next release, that next release is going to be a Dragon Age game
>A series which hasn't had a good entry since 2009
>Sister series to Mass Effect, who's latest entry was so bad it killed the studio
>The only possible path to redemption might have been starting fresh with a new series, and after putting all of their eggs in the Anthem basket - they tripped and faceplanted directly into that basket of eggs
>Almost nobody is left at that company which has even a scrap of creativity or the talent to pull it off, since everyone else has been getting the fuck out of the dumpster fire while they still have a career to be salvaged
Gotta admit, I am kind of looking forward to Dragon Age IV and I hope Bioware sticks around long enough to see it get shit out on the market with a wet farting noise and a weak sad broken trumpet fanfare. There's absolutely no chance for it to be anything other than a complete flaming turd, and EA will probably make a point to publicly execute Bioware rather than just quietly taking them out behind the shed like they usually do.
0912c4 No.16676568
>>16665740
I wouldn't even mind if they didn't include fixing the Black City in the games so far, but is it too much to ask to actually be able to go there somehow? The world building had such a nice execution in the first game, not perfect, but somethings really make you immersed, like the Black City being present every time you go in the fade and it being the place where 'god' lived once.
907cdc No.16676575
>>16665079
Only DA:O
Worth one playthrough and watch the different origins and conversations on youtube.
4731e3 No.16676739
>>16665107
Why aren’t these unhinged degenerates dead
693f95 No.16676758
>>16665079
>Is the Dragon Age series worth
origins was fun, the rest is shit
a8f065 No.16676788
dragon age origins is good. play the DLCs if you couldnt get enough. origins is great and the difficulty levels are done right. harder difficulties means enemies dont just become stronger (they do, alittle) but they use way more attack strategies/moves and heal/retreat/move more intelligently.
setting up the order of operations is key, and so is selecting the option to pause the game when combat begins.
2 and 3 is complete trash and have nothing to do with the 1st, dont bother.
de3dbc No.16676791
>>16665085
>Origins + DLC is good
gameplay maybe, writing is dogshit.
ee9214 No.16677698
>>16676739
Money stolen from taxpayers keeps funding their disgusting high-risk lifestyles in the form of Prep and AIDS research. Bake their fucking cake, bigot.
47f197 No.16678387
>>16671777
>and EA will probably make a point to publicly execute Bioware rather than just quietly taking them out behind the shed like they usually do
Not if the Canadian tax dollars have anything to say about it.
3e0349 No.16678405
>>16665107
>the dragon age audience
The joke basically writes itself.
5ea0ea No.16680280
>>16676791
2 and 3 are even worse, so…
9010f0 No.16680457
Origins was only realy good if you played it when it came out. If I recall correctly it was the only major RPG release we had after a long dryspell, NWN2 and Oblivion were three years prior (and Oblivion merits as an rpg are debatable) if anything of note came out between them I'm struggling to remember and those games themselves came out after a small ice-age of western RPG's as well (Gothic 3 was 2006, Bloodlines 2004?) The JRPG's were coming out like the Emperor had ordered it himself, 2002-2008 was a pretty good period for JRPG's. It was exactly the kind of game we needed to 1) satisfy the underserved western CRPG market at the time and 2) kickstart a western rpg renaissance that has if not revitalized the genre at least taken it off life support. It's like eating a burger after being too poor to eat anything but rice for a month. The Burger didn't have to be particularly great to make you remember why rice sucks.
Dragon Age has its merits and if it's your first western rpg you could do a lot worse but if someone had a lot of experience with the genre I wouldn't recommend it as anything other than to kill time with. Soundtrack is fucking on point though.
bacf07 No.16681000
Not really.
The first game is pretty solid; very enjoyable story.
Dragon Age Origins was made by old Bioware. The ones that made Star Wars KOTOR.
DA2 and DAI were made by EAware. Both of those games are shit. The third one even had tranny shit in it.
5904d0 No.16681030
>>16668785
> Didn't the second DA increase the homo shit
Yes, I can't think of any male characters in it that weren't also gay romance options.
2d1eaf No.16681426
Not a single game is decent in that series