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3120d6  No.16657381

I am playing MGS1 right now, and you know how there's that hallway where Gray Fox slays everyone before you go to try to save Hal? There's on soldier who's breathing, and if you kneel down beside him, it shows you a special viewing angle. Am I supposed to do something here? Why would it give a special angle for it?

Vid unrelated, but it's the area I'm talking about, skip to 4:19 there. If you squat just to the south of him (the guy still breathing), it will give the angle.

33ff28  No.16657399

File: 9ff5d4543a491fa⋯.jpg (21.66 KB, 590x590, 1:1, elephant.jpg)

No reason its just looks cool and cinematic in an era where 3D gaming was still the new hotness.


3120d6  No.16657404

>>16657399

Well, it is triggering my whole, "Fuck, how do I save this guy?" bullshit thought process.


3120d6  No.16657410

>>16657404

In my imagination, I tried to give him one last smoke. Even though we were enemies, God speed, soldier.


6762ee  No.16657411

>>16657404

I dont think you can save him, atleast i remenber nothign like it, probably the devs just wanting to add a little more care to the scene showing a wounded soldier.


966219  No.16657427

>>16657381

it's because you're a faggot.


a5184d  No.16657438

>>16657399

Silent Hill did a lot of cool stuff like this too.

It was a crazy time.


e9a2cc  No.16657448

>>16657381

>hooktube

hello new friend. but in all seriousness, what this guys said >>16657399 actually this "cool camera angle" thing is also in MGS 2 and 3, not sure about 4 since i didnt play it that much and its absent from 5. now that im thinking about it, this is another reason why i didnt like mgs 5 that much.


3120d6  No.16657453

>>16657411

Oh well, thanks for the answer.


f6445a  No.16657479

File: f7c4b3087d4e7bf⋯.mp4 (7.89 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Snake and Meryl rob a conv….mp4)


e9a2cc  No.16657490

File: 63ca1da248d744b⋯.mp4 (1.96 MB, 480x480, 1:1, ySHtntjE8UvwLHz0.mp4)


0a853a  No.16657496

after playing every MGS game I still don't really know who Grey Fox is. Are we supposed to learn who he is? The only person like him is Null from Portable Ops, and I thought that PO was completely non-canon and Null is basically a forgotten character.

Who the heck is Grey Fox, why is he at Shadow Moses and what's his relationship with Solid Snake?


40be4a  No.16657498

MY NAME GENOME SOLDIER

I LIKE TO SPEeeEEEeeEEeeEEN


6d423b  No.16657501

>>16657496

Ever consider the game's name?

Metal Gear.

Metal Gear Solid.

use your brain


a82332  No.16657507


7e04c5  No.16657531

>>16657496

>The only person like him is Null

That's because he is Null.

He's at Shadow Moses because Snake is there. He was one of Snake's brothers in arms at one point in the past, sometime before (during?) the events of Metal Gear. They fought multiple times before the events of Metal Gear Solid.


3120d6  No.16657553

>>16657496

Uh, in the main menu before you start the game, there's an option called 'special.' You can read everything that happened before Shadow Moses in there. It tells you who Grey Fox is and his relationship with Solid Snake in there.


a82332  No.16657558

>>16657501

Never played the games, what's it mean


0a853a  No.16657565

>>16657501

I never played the MG games so I don't see where you're going with that.

>>16657531

Must have missed it, I played MGS1 on the HD collection disc for the PS3. Anyway, the Null introduced in MGS:PO is different or not canon, right? So the Null that is Grey Fox is a totally different character.


839f68  No.16657576

>>16657565

Certain parts of Portable Ops are canon. The San Heironymo Incident did occur, it's mentioned in the first scene of Peace Walker. Null is canon. Null is Gray Fox.


fc16b4  No.16657657

>>16657496

>>16657553

>there are anons on this board who couldn't navigate MGS1's menu

God is dead.


5c7361  No.16658109

>>16657496

the colonel literally tells you who it is in this long ass codec call


b06c61  No.16658135

>hooktube

Hello cuckchan, this board doesn't allow anyone who came here after 2014 to post. I advice you leave quickly.


2af706  No.16658146

>>16658109

Anon wasn't asking for Gray Fox's backstory as mentioned in MGS1, but whether you actually meet him in MG1 or 2. And the answer is no, because his existence is a retcon.


ed7d63  No.16658151

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>>16657490

>>16657479

More sneaking videos, please


7de6e9  No.16658215

>>16657490

>>16657479

these are too funny


5c7361  No.16658286

>>16658146

gray fox was in MG1, you fight him there but not as some cyborg ninja, he only becomes grey fox after the game.

the faggot literally asks "who is grey fox and why is he in MGS1" when the conversation right after and even before the boss battle with him it is fully explained who he is and why he knows snake.

learn to read you fucking gorilla nigger


667bba  No.16658336

File: 0c116adf51a03a0⋯.jpg (88.03 KB, 744x800, 93:100, DIE.jpg)

>>16657496

>>16657381

>there are people who still can't figure out shit from an over 20 year old game and come here begging to be spoonfed

>>16657531

>>16657553

>faggots like these spoonfeed them

this has to stop


394a00  No.16658380

File: 6ac9f565e357d8b⋯.jpg (80.28 KB, 369x515, 369:515, 87674f7ff72a02fb24b7c63763….jpg)

>>16657381

a thread died for this


5c7361  No.16658404

>>16658380

why dont you just make a better thread and kill this one?


ba32ee  No.16658409


5c7361  No.16658674

>>16658380

did you make that thread yet?


7c97be  No.16659355

>>16658380

Was getting ID dubs part of your plan?


54e7ad  No.16659471

>>16658151

That one's an ad, but >>16657479 is fucking hilarious and makes up for the thread. To think of all the countless unknown keks lurking in anons' drives.


7c97be  No.16659493

>>16659471

Tomb of the unknown kek when?


8bfea0  No.16659495

>>16657490

What's the story behind this one?


99a319  No.16659498

>>16657381

Take a picture of the hallway and that soldier when you got the camera and finished the game. Also keep an extra pair of underwear at the ready.


361e2d  No.16659539

Every single corpse in the game that's left behind (including Vulcan Raven's chaingun), when knelt besides, will give you a unique camera angle. Give it a try sometime.


d52c81  No.16659543

>>16657381

iirc he stops breathing when you return to that hallway after a cutscene


84b082  No.16659549

File: 4a0ec71690cf3f9⋯.png (25.7 KB, 360x270, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16657496

>he didn't play the best game in the metal gear series


c409db  No.16659648

File: aef78fa237e08c3⋯.jpg (28.03 KB, 287x346, 287:346, Metal_Gear_2000_cover_art.jpg)

>>16659549

That's not Ghost Babel


9941df  No.16659672

>>16659648

The level design in that game is fucking awful Anon, I'll give it credit for the shit they managed to sneak into an E rated game though.


c409db  No.16659680

>>16659672

I'd put it on part with the other 2 Metal Gears


c409db  No.16659681


243ea7  No.16660267

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I'm here to inform you that Arin "Egoraptor" Hanson edited out the saying of the word "nigga"/"nigger" out of his 10 year old, over 6 million views video and the top comments are starting to get overtaken by those who are just noticing this.

It still exists in his newgrounds upload (1:32):

newgrounds.com/portal/view/426712

Sage for e-celeb.


7c97be  No.16661659

File: 4570fab598cc058⋯.png (14.05 KB, 472x489, 472:489, hitmonlee got cancer from ….png)

>>16660267

>6 million views for this


54e7ad  No.16661815

>>16661659

It was fun when I was younger. I'm surprised it doesn't have more views.


6762ee  No.16661821

>>16661659

>he wasnt there for the golden age of flash animations


54e7ad  No.16661833

>>16660267

Huh. I went backto NG to see his profile and he has stuff from 2017. It's an mp4 lol


23f3f3  No.16661938

>>16661815

Metal Gear Awesome 2 was always a letdown. Egoraptor was a one hit wonder.


cd171e  No.16661986

>>16657496

Play Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake you fucking child. Then come back when you are at least 18. OR bet yet, maybe fucking pay attention to when the Colonel is speaking to you. I know its hard because you have to sit down and listen to someone speak, but you can do it champ.


8e5df0  No.16662355

>tfw still haven't played MGS really

I remember I played a bit of the first one on my PS1 Classic but my energy was kinda drained, like I don't really know if other people have this, but sometimes I get hyped to play a game, load in and then all my energy is gone and I exit immediately. Same thing happened with MGS though I tried to play it. Maybe it was just because I had no analogue sticks or something.


8e5df0  No.16662362

>>16662355

Also I've played a bit of MGS5, back when I had PS Plus I enjoyed it, but I found the intro where you literally can't do anything but watch to be frustratingly boring. Also I think Big Boss isn't actually Big Boss in it and is some other faggot from what I've seen or something? am I missing out on MGS anons?


0aaafe  No.16662401

>>16657490

Incredible.


39d7ea  No.16662447

>>16657531

>He's at Shadow Moses because Snake is there. He was one of Snake's brothers in arms at one point in the past, sometime before (during?) the events of Metal Gear. They fought multiple times before the events of Metal Gear Solid.

Gray Fox is the guy you rescue in the first game (and weren't supposed to).

He's the best agent of Foxhound, Naked sends him to recon Outer Heaver then he gets captured by Venom.

Naked sends Solid to rescue him (so that he fails and report misinformation.

Except Solid unexpectedly managed to free Gray, destroy the metal gear and even win against Venom.

Later Gray Fox and Big Boss talks and he convinces him to join him in Zanzibar leading him to begrudgingly fight Solid (and lose) which he sees as his savior.

He's also Naomi Hunter brother and a child soldier from Rhodesia, his loyalty (and hers) go to Big Boss is because he (Venom) rescued them and he was so good and loyal he was handpicked by Naked for the new Foxhound.

The twist being he was never in danger in Outer Heaven and Solid didn't actually saved him.

Logically we should have met them as children (him a teen and her a child) in MGS V if it's wasn't cut of most of it's content.

That or they used most of the idea for Chico/Paz and cie in Peacekeepers as it's an eerily similar setup.


45496a  No.16664321

>>16662362

There are so many characters from other MGS games that it isn't going to make sense unless you play the others. For example the burning man is Volgin, which you wouldn't fucking be able to recognize unless you played three. Or how ocelot makes references to events in 3. There is just a lot of shit in the other games that would make MGS5's plot make a whole lot more sense. Also its basically a sequel to Peace Walker, but its only PS3 and PSP so good luck with that one. The Big Boss you play in MGS5 is the Medic who nearly dies at the end of Peace Walker, they just said to him "lmao ur snake now" The guy who helps you out of that shitty 30 minute cutscene is the actual big boss.


6e2354  No.16664330

>>16664321

>The Big Boss you play in MGS5 is the Medic who nearly dies at the end of Peace Walker, they just said to him "lmao ur snake now" The guy who helps you out of that shitty 30 minute cutscene is the actual big boss.

Huh, on one hand I kinda feel like I've spoiled the big twist for myself. But on the other from what I recall I'm pretty sure most people hated the twist. So eh, I still might actually check out MGS as a whole, though I've never really been a stealth games guy.


45496a  No.16664335

>>16664330

Its not really a spoiler though. They tell you in the first hour. They just don 't spell it out. The only way you know this is if you played the other games. Also the reason people hated this twist is that the game was meant to tell about what had made BIG BOSS more of a villian, not venom snake.


5eb175  No.16664340

>>16658336

Try harder to fit in loser its almost working.


87d847  No.16666384

>>16662362

The hospital intro is the best part of the game in terms of pacing, story and atmosphere, though

After that the gameplay ramps up and gets good but all the other stuff plummets into shit

And don't worry about the twist, that shit was too fucking obvious


39d7ea  No.16666426

>>16664330

It's not really spoiled has people had figured it out before the game was even released and it's pretty obvious from the beginning, you just accept your character doesn't know (or does he? Because there is clearly a bit of self-doubt quickly introduced).

People not liking MGS 5 for that twist are idiots, there is plenty of reason to dislike it, but the story of how there are two big boss, of loss, loyalty, betrayal of ideals and descent into hell that will end up making Big Boss into a villain is the part that needs saving (with some of the new game mechanics and maybe two "maps").


b1858c  No.16666469

File: 49dec0d79590138⋯.jpeg (104.48 KB, 589x570, 31:30, 5cc60e4532920416baeff2e43….jpeg)

>>16658336

>HA WE SHOWED THEM

>RIGHT FELLOW 8CHANNERS


17783a  No.16668841

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>>16657381

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e51968  No.16669064

>>16662362

MGSV isn't cannon

>Ocelot travels in time at least twice and physically teleports twice

>big boss has an instant beard, just add water (^:

>Big boss is now friends with Lupin the III on top of Zero and friends, gets a rubber mask of big medic

>big Boss fucks off to do nothing under a fake name and face for 11 years

>Big medic dying is a "mission failed" but "big boss" dying is a time paradox game over.

>game explains retcons how MG1 big boss survived even though it's explained by MG2

>>16662447

>retard tries to weave phantom shitstain into canon

nice try faglord.

And psycho mantis is a literal wizard channeling butthurt into flaming whales, mecha, and flaming unicorns but in 20 years he can only throw furniture and attempt rape

he also saved liquid snake from ass parasites by telefragging them with his mind because muh mission 51

End your life.

>>16666426

>descent into hell that will end up making Big Boss

You mean something that peace walker did where big boss had no issues with

>Taking money from the KGB to eliminate CIA presence in South America so Soviet Union can take it over

>Destroying American weapon prototypes

>Styling himself after che guevara

>using child soldiers as staff

>creating outer heaven, a nation of soldiers with no ideology, only wanting to fight for whomever pays them and gives them a chance to fight


8ab90b  No.16685069

>>16658380

I've made a thread two days ago for which a janitor went "go sharethread lol" and locked it, and it's still up and far from dying.

I browse threads on the catalog from top to bottom, posting in several threads that have hit the bump limit, these threads are essentially dead with 1 post every two days at best and they are still up.

Quit being a faggot. Threads getting purged is a good thing.


8ab90b  No.16685079

>>16685069

Mean from bottom to top for browsing the catalog. It wouldn't make sense to precise otherwise.


b3daed  No.16685101

>>16669064

>instant beard

I thought his beard was taped over during the hospital bit.

>fucks off to do nothing under a fake name and face for 11 years

Nigga he went to go develop Zanzibarland as a backup, that shit was obvious.

>You mean something that peace walker did where big boss had no issues with

Bullshit, the game itself portrayed him as Disneyland-tier, there was no hell going on at all.


31d6df  No.16685215

>>16685148

>Soy this

>Soy that

>everything I don't like is soy

>I'd post le ebin open mouth wojak, but Mark finally took his insulin and start banning obvious cuckchanners




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