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yea, they fucked up the progression on that game, rip

by trying

I pirated this thing to try it when it was a few months out from "full" release. OP, I'd save your time. The game seems fine for a few hours, but the further you go, the grindier it gets, to the point where playing the game is more like work and tedium. The things you need to do and the time it takes to do them increases exponentially and there isn't enough time in the day, it just becomes busy work. This dev made a previous game exactly like this about a guy learning how to fight. He makes all his games involve huge time wasting mechanics to pad it out.

>>16643761

These are phone designed games, so it makes sense for it to work like that.

the game was genuinely interesting until i got maybe 4 hours into it and the donkey said i should pay it for its labor with carrots. i didnt have any idea how to make a farm. i didnt even want to pay this fucker for bodies. i just quit there. graveyard sim but with as little interaction with graveyard after 2 hours as possible

This is an example of a cool game ruining itself for no reason.

you can get hop seeds from the mill guy without repairing the mill im pretty sure, or i just bought beer, either way that game became too much of a grind and the fun wore off fast so i quit playing it.

>>16643705

By not playing non-games.

Its almost Korean MMO tier grind.

>>16643705

There are several vendors around town you can buy things from, including seeds for Hops and even actual Beer from the Inn, unless you need a specific one he doesn't sell.

Why do you guys always have problems talking with other people in these kinds of games? It's like you think the point of the game is to live like an hermit in your farm and everyone else can get fucked for all you care.

>>16643840

>the donkey said i should pay it for its labor with carrots

It's a mechanic to give you corpses on demand. Instead of having corpses arrive every single day that you might or might not need or even have space for, at that point in the game you can instead look at the graveyard, decide that you need 7 corpses to fill the graves or some more so you can harvest something from them and drop as many carrots as you need.

This way, you don't have corpses arriving everyday and rotting on your doorstep because you're too busy doing something else or don't actually need them anyway. It's a simple mechanism, why is this hard to understand?

>i didnt have any idea how to make a farm.

Have you not explored around your very property? Found the section with a signboard that tells you it's for a farm? Since the skills in your skill tree to plant things in said farm? Talked with the guy that sells seeds? Have you explored anything at all besides what the tutorial told you?

>>16643761

>there isn't enough time in the day

That doesn't actually make sense. One unique aspect in this game compared to Rune Factory or Harvest Moon is how the day-night cycle doesn't actually work in the same way. You can be up at any hour, even spend several days up if you have the food for that. Sleeping is mostly for the first days when you don't and because eventually it will be required of you, but the gameplay isn't as strictly broken down into days as RF or HM are. Things run on timers and your own cycle can vary. You can pretty much sleep the entire afternoon and stay up late instead or leave a furnace working while you sleep.

Furthermore, instead of having the time divided into 4 seasons with roughly 30 days each, you only have the 7 days of the week with their symbols. Events and people are tied to a specific day so if you ever miss one, you'll only have to wait at most 7 days to try again unlike RF or HM where it could take 120 days to repeat an event.

The point of this is that you can pretty much do anything whenever you feel like it (especially once the donkey starts to demand carrots) since everything is put on timers and you can tackle any available content at any time or soonish enough.

Best example I can give you: There's a house near the mountains, northwest of your starting house. It has iron, coal and stone deposits nearby, can easily be rebuilt and refurnished into a miner's shack.

Whenever you're running low on iron, coal or stone in your main house, you can pack up a bunch of food, travel there, stay for a few ideas just harvesting materials nearby and come back once you have a truckload of shit to work with in your main house with no worries on your part.

This is a lot faster and better than trying to mine and drag shit all the way back to your house instead.

I'm not going to same the game is perfect, it could use a lot more content and some polish, the script is kinda weak too.

But it does seem like some of you aren't even trying to actually play the game or explore any of it and you keep trying to play it like it was something else entirely.

>>16646532

Get outta here, you craft beer nigger.

>>16646879

no, faggot, there's only one way to really interpret that and it's not an appealing one.

>>16647021

No I agree with him, you’re retarded. It isn’t even a side shave.

>>16647021

I see it more like a poorly done medieval bowl cut that's growing on the sides.

You're confusing vigilance with paranoia.

>>16643761

>This dev made a previous game exactly like this about a guy learning how to fight

Fight Club? I feel your pain. It's nice at the beginning, but what kind of sadistic asshole wipes like 5-10% off your hard grinded stats EVERY SINGLE DAY at 12pm, no buts.

I dropped it and eventually beat it later thanks to discovering an oversight in the 3DS version: by fucking PAUSING while your character is training, training advances, but the clock doesn't.

Like 90% of all the idiots who dared pirate this piece of shit, I fell into the STR trap: raising your STR causes the energy consumption of ALL your skills to increase, and the damage doesn't scale up enough to compensate. Around the same time you discover that AGI is the god stat and without grinding it you will simply not be able to hit an AGI build.

Not even worth the pirate. I want my bandwith back.

>>16647117

>keeps switching IPs because he can't stand behind his own posts

>sees hipsters everywhere

>has nintendo shitpost pics stored in his hard drive

<actually thinks anyone should take anything he says remotely serious at all

End your existence my dude, you're too broken to be real at this point.

>>16647137

>Paranoid beta thinks only one person sees faggots and hipsters everywhere to mask his lack of masculinity

We know. We all know. When you lack masculinity you try to compensate by saying that everything around you is a hipster or a faggot and it just makes you look worse.

>>16646866

What? Craft hipsters are known for putting way too much hops in everything here in America.

>>16647144

I'm not sure I want to know.

I really liked this game until I got far enough along to realize that eventually the quests would force you to learn EVERY PART of the skill tree. I was intending to specialize in a few areas, but no, you have to do EVERYTHING. Which is bullshit and actually makes the game have zero replayability because you can't do different builds. Dropped it because there was way too much grinding involved to get enough skill points and because the way alchemy worked is utter shit: first you make it so you have to combine ingredients at complete random (and some of them are valuable or rare) to figure out what works or not, and then you don't include some kind of in-game notation that lists what you've already "discovered"? Just badly done.

>>16643705

Just uninstall the game, OP, you'll save yourself a lot of disappointment later on. The game starts out fun enough, but as you progress, things get insanely grindy. There's a shitload of components that are just there to pad shit out. Like:

>need item D

>to make item D, you need item C x10

>to make item C, you need item B x10

>to make item B, you need item A x10

>making each one takes exponentially longer time

>items B and C have literally no other purpose than to eventually create item D

It's a fucking grind treadmill. And as a further fuck you, there are several different areas of production like this, and you need to learn and master ALL of them. No, you can't just butcher dead bodies and similar, you need to learn how to keep bees and shit. The further in the game you get, the worse the grind

>>16647137

We need a ragnarok if we want to eliminate those people from existing mever again.

>you need hops to make beer

Technically true I suppose, as non-hopped beers aren't technically beers, but ales.

>you need a mill to get hops

What the fuck, why?

>you need figured schematics to make a mill

If you're totally unable to measure by sight and visualize in your head maybe. A mill isn't even needed, you can do all the things a mill can do by hand. And if you're making fucking beer, you should already have these things, because you have grain.

>you need to talk to an inquisitor to do mathematics

Is your character in this game fucking retarded?

>>16643705

Dumb question, but what game is this?

>>16648960

You play as an uneducated average millenial who was pretty much isekai'd into a medieval purgatory based on the seven sins.

No he doesn't know how to mill shit or make a quern. The only thing available is a full sized windmill that's broken down, and no one is doing anything about it because purgatory.

And you need to befriend the inquisitor because math is illegal, you need him to look the other way.

>>16649822

Graveyard Keeper

>>16647060

>this is how swedish vikings have their haircuts

>sideshave with slickback hair, faggot hairtie, and nu-mohawk is how medieval swedes look

On another note, google search only gives you how fashion hipster faggots think viking haircuts (((should))) look like, It's pretty much a confirmation the socialist scum have largely subverted the fashion industry as well, not just politics and vidya. All that's missing is their shitty problem glasses to complete the set.

On a seperate note; the business of designing and manufacturing glasses is also infested with these marxist filth, which is why any other type of eyewear design are rarely seen today.

>>16650183

Fashion's been the domain of people like that since the '40s, for christ's sake. That's hardly a surprise.

>>16650198

>Fashion's been the domain of people like that since the '40s

>since the 40's

I'm sure that time period is purely coincidential don't you think so anon :^)

>To make a good thread you need DUBS

>to get DUBS you need to CHECK 'EM

>>16643705

They're gonna have to include a feature where you can customize your own character instead of putting up with a projection of some hobo.

>>16646821

>>16646879

Do you happen to have any financial connection with this game? Because it looks like it

pirated it, played it for a couple of hours and deleted it.

Way too much grind, the progression system is totally fucked. Even having an energy level is kind of a fucking stupid idea at this point considering how fast it drains, sure you can stay up forever off meat and mushrooms and berries and shit but even picking those requires energy. 2 energy points spent to get a mushroom which restores 5, for a net gain of a whopping 3 energy points. Fuck this game.

OP here. Found out you can buy hops seed if you "level up" the miller.

Everything that has been said about this game in this thread is true. My semester is over now so I decided to finish this to see how it ends and out of boredom more than anything else.

Word of advice: Don't bother. Don't spend your time downloading this.

>>16646866

You realize the reason hops is standard in beer now is because it's just about the only kosher flavoring agent, right?

>>16647144

Partially this. The reason they pick those hairstyles is specifically because they're masculine. It's an attempt by effeminate men to look more masculine, failing to realize that it has more to do with the jawline, not having a fat face, and general behavior than hairstyle.

It's nothing new, this shit has been going on forever. Before this it was people wearing leather jackets trying to look tough.

>>16643705

>>16643741

retards look for a shop you don't have to make everything

just pirated this game. its actually pretty comfy and just the nice balance of unfair autism.

>>16652043

Once you learn to cook complex dishes, you can combine ingredients and make stuff like that give you more energy than you know what to do with. By mid-game you get to the point when you can stay up 'round the clock for days on end. You only really NEED to sleep when you're in the dungeons because, for some reason when you're sleep-deprived down there you start leaking XP. Plus, when you get better tools and shit you don't lose energy performing basic tasks anymore.

Honestly, this kind of progression shouldn't come as a surprise. Have you never played a game like this?

I gave up on it when it came out, felt too much like mobage hurdles just without the further cancer that comes with all that.

>>16646821

>But it does seem like some of you aren't even trying to actually play the game

I completed all the available content that the game had several months before it went into "full release" (which it wasn't; I checked back and found out that the town segment the dev was supposed to add never made it in, making a lot of people angry).

You want to run damage control on this game, go ahead. Far too much of it is simply wasting time and grinding to grind something else to complete something to nudge something a little. I know for a fact I am far from the only person to feel this way, because it's been the single most common criticism against not only this game but the fucking developer himself ever since this game was placed in EA.

There's no sense of accomplishment, the entire fucking program feels like nothing engaging, it's just "do X to do Y." It's busy work. It's barely even playing a fucking game. Fight Club had the exact same problems. If people want to pirate it to see the grindshow for themselves, more power to them, but under NO circumstances would I ever recommend someone actually pay money for this thing.

>>16643705

I know there's some way to progress through all of that because I completed the game but it's been 6 months and I can't remember exactly how.

>to repair the mill, you need the paper with calculations

>to get paper with calculation, you need to ask the inquisitor to free someone

Are you sure about that? I was certain that you get the paper from the Astrologer at some point.

>>16643705

>>16643741

Don't bother. Tinybuild forced the devs to rush the game and it was released as a mess.

>>16647181

avoid IPAs and you've avoided a large fraction of hipster swill

>>16652162

enjoy your 5 or so gruit beers sadly

sage for off topic