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9f139e  No.16625940

About to play New Vegas for the first time.

What should I know before I start?

d01cec  No.16625942

vanilla (no mods), hardcore mode on


9f139e  No.16625944

>>16625942

>No mods

That's harsh I was going to use Project Nevada to make it harder for me


0151ca  No.16625947

>>16625942

>no mods

Retard. At the very least, install the two big bugfix mods.


9f139e  No.16625953

>>16625947

>Two

I thought there was only the one Unofficial patch that usually accompanies Bethesda games


0151ca  No.16625960

>>16625953

There was one main one, and another one which piggybacked off of that one to include more fixes.


5799b7  No.16625965

>>16625944

Don't go with Project Nevada. In my opinion, it's too bloated, with too many systems that don't mesh well and changes the feeling of the game radically. If I were you, I'd download a few bugfix mods as the other anons said, and maybe also something like JSawyer Ultimate Edition which is pretty barebones but improves the game a lot. Maybe also a couple of mods that improve gunplay a bit (ie. the one that adds real recoil to the guns).


10ce19  No.16625966

>>16625947

This, install the bugfixes and do a mainly vanilla experience. It's pretty fun. If you have the GOTY version then install that mod that hides the starter items away, or else you'll get a fuckton of items the second you start.


c7ff12  No.16625972

File: 73e2d6806b7a002⋯.png (468.05 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, oh god why, yes man.png)

If you see giant wasp-looking things, stay the fuck away from them. They're called Cazadors, you can find a few near the beginning of the game.

They can wreck even a high-level character and you'll never outrun them. In Goodsprings there's a stealthboy, you can use it to sneak past them instead of having to go the long way around like the game intends.


b1de74  No.16626038

Quick tip, first town you're in is tutorial town and will teach you the game mechanics nicely, and since it's your first time playing don't skip on exploring the first town.

Also if there's a must have mod beside simple bug fixes, I recommend mesh mods for world objects, so you can shoot through horribly meshed objects with giant holes in them.


4586c1  No.16626051

Make sure to head through quarry junction after finishing the tutorial.


95c780  No.16626056

>>16625944

Do what >>16625947 suggests with the bugfixes. And otherwise play it with no mods. Especially not Project Nevada


9bdc88  No.16626057

>>16625940

Just do the quests you get and it'll all come together.


dddf4f  No.16626064

Revolver only no power armor. Go!


2a0136  No.16626065

>>16625940

Vanilla first always. Maybe YUG's unofficial patch and jswayer if you want to experience what was originally intended. Seriously no other mods for your first playthrough.


4586c1  No.16626071


1b8ffd  No.16626073

Which difficulty do you prefer: normal or very hard? I'm not talking about Harcore mode, I always enable it by default.


2a0136  No.16626074

>>16625965

This, Project Nevada is overrated. Also makes explosives by default overpowered as FUCK which is super annoying against the Powder Gangers. Explosives should only be like that with perks.


c7ff12  No.16626077

>>16626065

Fuck Josh Soyer and fuck his terrible mod.

>hey dude I lowered the level cap by 15 levels lol

>and your health is lower now wew

>and you can only carry 50 pounds l m a o


25f1e5  No.16626083

NVAC (New Vegas Anti-Crash), NVSR (New Vegas Stutter Remover), and YUP (Yukichigai Unofficial Patch) are the only mods you need for the first playthrough. Project Nevada fucks with the gameplay so much that it's not even the same game at all.

I would suggest NVSE (New Vegas Script Extender), Light Up and Smoke 'Em, New Vegas Enhanced Camera, JSawyers Mod Ultimate, and New Vegas Uncut as considerations. These restore cut features and adds in small, sensible details that don't detract from the game itself. IT isn't the vanilla experience however, and can be quite buggy. Stick to the first three for a first-time experience, consider installing the next ones on a second playthrough if you enjoyed it.


382268  No.16626086

>>16625940

kill every nigger you see


bb62cd  No.16626089

>>16625940

Nothing, just get in there son the game is good enough on it's own don't fuck around with it yet.


29824a  No.16626091

Armor only negates a flat amount of damage, which means rapid firing/low damage weapons are garbage. There's a perk that makes shotguns ignore a large amount of damage threshold, which makes them usable. All of your actions are based off of Agility, so you want 8+ to be able to play smoothly. Science (hacking computers), Lockpicking have thresholds at 25, 50, 75, and 100 skills, which let you fiddle with progressively harder computers/locks. Weapon damage is mostly tied to your weapon condition and your weapon skill. Melee enemies and wildlife in general tends to be significantly more deadly than gun using enemies, which makes melee/unarmed builds really rough to play at higher difficulties. Use the bugfix mod(s) and the anti-crash fixes, which can be found in your favorite search engine. DON'T use the Jsawyer mod or Project Nevada: they both awful and unfun to play, but for very different reasons HOPE YOU LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO CARRY ANYTHING HEAVIER THAN A PISTOL AND SOME STIMS LOL. Hardcore mode only adds tedium: food and water are plentiful, and the extra inventory management doesn't add to the experience.


b55436  No.16626092

>>16625940

Only use bugfix mods.


ef8da7  No.16626093

>>16626083

>>16626065

>recommending JSawyer

Why? All it does is make the game more tedious and unfun.


4586c1  No.16626094

I only ever played it on PS3 but giving yourself unlimited weight limit would solve a lot of problems. Don't abuse and carry everything but having to do trips and shit was my least favorite part of any game with that as a mechanic.


95c780  No.16626097

>>16626077

I'm think his intention was to make it closer in line to what he did as a pen and paper campaign that he played with some other Interplay devs back in the day.. Pretty sure his character was Arcade Gannon too


c7ff12  No.16626098

>>16626097

>Pretty sure his character was Arcade Gannon too

Fitting because Arcade is gay.


a219b9  No.16626099

>>16626073

The problem with very hard is that enemies get too bullet-spongy for my taste. When im playing with mods, i usually use one that multiplies all damage by 4, otherwise, i stick with normal or hard difficulty.


25f1e5  No.16626107

>>16626083

Understand that even with the bugfixes, the game is buggy and glitched. It's Bethesda provided assets assembled by Obsidian in a time crunch. Any one of those three factors alone would cause serious issues. It's a miracle the game is as fun as it is.

>>16626093

It's fun when you've already experienced the core game. I only reccomend it as a second or third playthrough mod. I hate PN with a passion.

>>16626091

Charisma is a dump stat. Personally I reccommend playing the game with 10 Luck and 5 everything else and rob the casinos blind. Difficulty is bullshit, stick to normal. Hardcore actually makes Survival a more useful skill over medicine as stimpaks heal over time and do not heal broken limbs IIRC. NEVER EVER DOUBLE UP MEDICINE AND SURVIVAL. Pick one or the other, because you'll just end up using one or the other and those skill points can be used in Speech and Barter instead.


3a2005  No.16626108

>>16625940

That your a fag.


95c780  No.16626109

>>16626098

He has a tumblr on which he answers people questions regarding the games he's worked on including New Vegas. And every now and then you get cool nuggets of information. His last NV post was explained how and why they implemented the damage threshold mechanic in game and it's unironically interesting.


bceb61  No.16626130

File: 186bf6dd61b3ff2⋯.jpg (55.59 KB, 720x835, 144:167, 40a6e8a661adc1fe2df522f6da….jpg)

get charisma to 4, perception to 6, intelligence to 10. Four eyes and wild wasteland.

Tag Guns, Speech and Lockpicking.

As soon as you can, get Educated and Confirmed Bachellor/Black Widow.

As for mods, stick with the unofficial patch for now.


d01cec  No.16626136

.>>16625947

>bugfixes

not vanilla enough

>>16626130

you only need around 4 int for minmaxing skill point

>>16626129

yeah everything looks like piss, but i think someone dropped a fucking nuke so go figure


bceb61  No.16626144

>>16626136

int is the most important stat in the game, your skill points depend on int.

At 5 in you're getting 15 skill points per level up while as at 10 you're getting 20


bceb61  No.16626148

>>16626144

edit because I'm not deleting it again.

Skill points = (int/2)+10


370f6d  No.16626151

Factions:

>The Legion go around raping everything/each other with dicks and machetes in a world where guns exist to badly roleplay as Romans.

>NCR can't contain themselves and are spread thin and fill out their ranks with women who don't mind bleeding twice per month.

>BoS are back to being tech-hoarders. They only care about keeping everyone away from it and are mostly useless outside weapon/power armor acquisition.

>House is trying to create a post-war wonderland with a robot army to enforce this. Everyone on The Strip used to be some faggot raider, now they're all closet faggot raiders instead.

>The Khans are druggie tribals and not too bright in general. They have drug supply deals with the raider gangs running around trying to kill you.

>The Boomers have the best setup and a lot of great weapons but they're kind of childish and weird from their isolation. Will try to kill you the second you look at their base.

>Powder Gangers are just a bunch of ass-raping prisoners the NCR lost control of because of the above points. Only useful for early explosives.


25f1e5  No.16626154

>>16626138

>>16626144

Depends on the run. Quality vs Quantity of Skill Points. If you know what you're doing, you only need to max a few skills. You can make up the 4 or 5 non maxed stats with the 3 maxed stats you get and bonuses from AGI, END, or LUCK, on top of Chems, Equipment, and Companions.


29824a  No.16626155

>>16626073

>>16626099

Bullet sponge isn't an issue with a good build, preparation, and lot of Psycho.

>>16626130

Get 9 Luck and 7-8 Endurance, grab all the relevant implants with casino money. You either get 1 Perception or 6 (5 with implant) if you're going crit build. 1 in Charisma, rest is distributed as needed. Get however much you need for the weapons you want and then try to get as close to 9 Int and Agi as possible. The main problem with the game is that Perception isn't needed for accuracy, and Charisma isn't really needed for anything. Having 1½ dumb stat out of 7 is bad.


bceb61  No.16626156

>>16626154

I mean, yeah, but since it's his first time playing he's bound to fuck up somewhere.


67bed0  No.16626167

>>16626151

The BoS were tech-hoarders from the beginning. They never changed unless you're referring to the bethesda made abominations.


3f946b  No.16626173

PLAY THE GAME


bceb61  No.16626180

Best way of earning late game shekels is to have one of the major factions (NCR/Legion) despise you so they send assassins after you only so you can kill them and steal their shit.

Also there's no benefit for siding with the Legion, the NCR controls like 80% of the map.


4886f7  No.16626186

It's shit


25f1e5  No.16626189

>>16626156

Even at 5 INT you still max out something like 6 skills by the end of the game. Three or four of which you consistently use. I'd reccomend maxing out Luck, nixing charisma, dumping the rest into AGI. Utilizing the shit ton of caps you get from gambling at Usanagis to build up DT, END, STR, Recovery, and PER. Equipment and Chems are way more useful for situations than the raw skill boost you get from higher INT.


370f6d  No.16626194

>>16626167

That's what I meant. They're back at it, the way they're supposed to be. Lots of people have only played FO3 where the branch went rogue and decided to play LG paladin and save everyone. Dunno why they bothered, everyone in that game is a piece of shit except maybe Moira, and she's… well, Moira.

>>16626151

>Followers of the Apocalypse are a bunch of well-meaning dumbasses trying to heal everyone for nothing despite not having the money, staff, or resources to do so. One of the few groups everyone likes.

>The Omertas pretend to be off the set of Godfather. Their casino is a monument to drugs, sex and prostitution of all kinds on top of all the gambling.

>The Chairmen talk and act like they're stuck in the 20s, which is debatably appropriate since FO in general apes shit from around the 50s and splices it with future shit. The leader shoots you.

>White Glove Society are a bunch of ponces in masks and suits with a high-class casino, at least as far as a post-nuclear wasteland goes. Don't order the meat pies.

>The Fiends are the only raider gang worth mentioning because they're all around The Strip. Notable members include someone who does hard drugs with her dogs, a serial rapist with a penchant for cooking women, and a man who enjoys golf.


d4525e  No.16626230

>>16625940

Don't open it.


b55436  No.16626232

>>16626189

>focusing on luck just for some caps

Nigger just sell the stuff you find. Once you get the repair skill that lets you repair items with any other similar item money becomes a non-issue.


25f1e5  No.16626233

>>16626232

Luck improves exp gain and critical chance. It's by far the most useful stat.


d4525e  No.16626235


b55436  No.16626242

>>16626233

No agility is.


43234f  No.16626251

All I can say is don't bother with the STEP Fear and Loathing guide. It's shit and will leave your game more unstable than if you're just fucking around with average mods.


9f139e  No.16626257

>>16626235

What does the 4G mod do?


25f1e5  No.16626260

>>16626242

AGI isn't as effective. It provides negligible speed boosts on drawing and reloading, and the AP is not worth it past 6 or 7. Endurance is one that gets overlooked often in favor of INT.

S 4 P 5 E 8 C 1 5 A 7 L 10 is preferable for a ranged crit build.


43234f  No.16626264

>>16626257

The game by default only uses 2 gb of ram. The mod forces it to use all 4 gb.

Honestly with the base game its not needed but if you're using any sort of texture mod its almost required.


25f1e5  No.16626273

>Fear and Loathing

>Recommends Willow and Someguy

Why does everyone who mod insist that Willow and Someguy are great? They're fucking embarassingly bad mods.


cede8c  No.16626275

Install as much graphics, texture, and sound mods as your PC can handle.

FNV is one of my favorite games, but it hasn't aged well graphically. Install bug fix mods as well.

Save the loli futa rape pregnancy mods for after you complete your first playthrough.


e4097c  No.16626327

>>16626189

I take 9 int every time and get the implant ASAP after gambling at the casino in freeside because I fucking love skill points.


67b9ac  No.16626344

File: 41f38ffbf6856bd⋯.png (2.08 MB, 955x1249, 955:1249, New vegas.png)

I treat New Vegas like I treat S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - play it and beat it vanilla on normal (master for stalker) before installing any mods. If you can't enjoy beating it then move on, because you likely won't like it modded if you can't enjoy the base game. After that, mod to your heart's content.

The only mod I've ever installed is A Tale of Two Wastelands, which combines 3 and NV into a single game, and I'm still not totally burned out, but I'm probably autistic so mileage may vary.


25b741  No.16626347

>>16625942

dont do either of these things


877f46  No.16626360

>>16626260

>>16626189

>>16626144

>>16626136

>Putting actual thought into how you level up to maximize your gains while minimizing frustrating elements instead of forsaking intelligence to boost strength and endurance into the heavens and charisma while you're at it

Just grab a big scary choppa and some good armor and beat all of your issues to a bloody pulp or if you're feeling real suicidal BADASS go unarmed and try to find the dude who teaches you a technique to boost your CQC potential dramatically.

Try to ignore every limb getting blown off by a land mine or some shit because you better get used to drinking soda to heal boy.


d4e792  No.16626420

>>16625965

Well the nice thing about Project Nevada is you don't have to turn everything on, like the shitty balancing from it and other visual things can stay on like the hud visors and such.


57a342  No.16626492

Unofficial Patch, Open Strip/Freeside and an increase to the actor draw distance in the ini (There's literally planned ambushes and snipers in game that don't trigger due to even the max draw distance being too low).


5f31c2  No.16626542

>>16625940

>>16626038

You don't have to fallow the Ringo quest line and it is really best for everyone involved if you just don't… leaving it open ended makes it so the powder gangers are not hostile and leaves your access to a free doctor open. it's really not your problem and trudy is really the only voice of reason in that quest. even if you want to wipe out the powder gangers it is best to just skip up to their little prison and deal with them that way with ncr support (after a few quests) that you are locked out of if you go hostile.

unfortunately it seems to be the only quest that has the "third option" as a real option.


ff7331  No.16626559

>>16626542

The real third option is just shooting Ringo in the face, because he drew on you :^)


877f46  No.16626572

>>16626559

How far do you think could you get in NV if you shot everyone who ran directly at you or initially pointed a gun at you?


000000  No.16626601

>What should I know before I start?

that it's a mediocre game and you should play Fallout 1 or 2 instead


d01cec  No.16626609

>>16626148

the skill points get cucked due to how integers work, they round down so an int 5 is an int 4.


6711d4  No.16626664

File: 476b01374fbcb6e⋯.png (131.12 KB, 600x600, 1:1, torpost.png)

>>16626601

>take New Vegas' jankyness and inject it with steriods


843834  No.16626765

'Vanilla' game first, bug fixes, graphical updating, and pure QoL mods are fine naturally. Play on very hard difficulty with hardcore mode enabled, it's not that difficult and I say it adds a little bit of depth managing your needs and healing over time. I'd also recommend following the path your main quest ("They Went That-a-Way") gives you for the first playthrough around, but you can easily take other routes to New Vegas if you get bored, load an early save, or if you start new run. >>16625972 is a good example. The map isn't even half as railroading as some absolute brainlets think it is, you just need to be smart about it.

While being along the same lines, you should try and meander aboutand explore the whole map since every location unmarked and not at the very least adds to the tone/atmosphere of the game and often gives a bit of environmental story and more.

Also all four of the main DLC packs are amazing. Playing them in order of release/level recommendation is a decent rule of thumb but at least save Lonesome Road for last.

Pick any faction ending you want, just be sure you know that Yes-man is the correct choice. Unless your character is a < 4 int retard, then it's House.


ff7331  No.16626783

>>16626765

Legion is also a 5/10, not terrible ending

If you pick NCR, just fucking kill yourself


17146c  No.16626843

File: 0f45c89b78dc8cb⋯.jpg (67.24 KB, 592x592, 1:1, 0f45c89b78dc8cb81d8eee69a4….jpg)

i got a mod that makes a pack brahmin– like the ones that follow traveling merchants around– follow you too. and it doesn't even take a companion slot, so you don't need to install the multi-companion mod to use it and a gunner at the same time.

cows are my favorite animal and i can't even explain how happy this has made me.


ec024c  No.16626913

File: 33a31e20b1b58cd⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 619.38 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Filthy Legion Dogs.jpg)

Do not trust those fags in the football gear.


5e2baa  No.16626951

>>16626843

There was going to be a brahmin companion in NV for the non-human slot with Rex and ED-E but it ended up being cut before release like most of the planned content for the game.


f91d8a  No.16626972

File: 217652073cec219⋯.png (1.07 MB, 7086x4133, 7086:4133, Legionfags.png)

Yes, beware the Legionfags


a0e361  No.16626981

The best possible possible way to play this game is being a highly charismatic cowboy.


673af3  No.16627000

>>16625940

There are a few mods that don't affect vanila and just add to the original product:

Bug fixes and whatnot are a must, someone probably posted a list already. Include everything from nvac and unofficial patches to specific stuff to fix broken quests and other bugs, also https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34832

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39856

The mojave aint the sahara desert. Vanila nv is completely barren, which is bullshit and it makes it look really ugly, thank console releases

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62481/

I've seen some people defend the orange filter, it might look good at some points but generally it just makes the game look like ass

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34902 , https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34971 , https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55085

The classic hud is subjective (though the vanila hud looks like dogshit), but the hud size fix is absolutely necessary and the fov fix is always good

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50468

Just for the option to recruit any npc, it might be me but all the companions in nv are terrible (except for the eyebot). The extra hud it adds can be removed.

Other than that, maybe look into fonv redesigned which adds a lot of nice changes like making corpses you find, crucifixed bodies, injured npcs (as in npcs that are injured in the story, not combat) look hurt and bloody depending on the case and it fixes the oblivion trademark potato faces / weird skin and hair colors the devs left in the game, BUT it also add a lot of arbitrary changes because the creator wanted to make someone look different or pretty, just because

And other than those, do whatever you want. As long as it's not one of the many shitty rebalance mods there's around, it won't affect the experience. Improve the graphics, animations, textures, this thing's made to be modded until it crashes

>>16626913

Why do you post your oc in every nv thread


1fd923  No.16627026

>>16626765

>Pick any faction ending you want

Sure, but if yo go Legion you lock yourself out of a lot of quests for the first 2/3 of the game.


52b8d1  No.16627085

>>16625940

WASD to move, mouse to look around. Good luck.


06b2e0  No.16627113

It's weird seeing so much anti-Legion posts lately, wonder what happened


2a0136  No.16627134

>>16626273

Willow for sure is bad, and just a poorly made waifubait companion. Someguy is hit and miss story wise but the quests give you things to do.


c9478e  No.16627138

>>16627113

The fall of Rome?


1cb191  No.16627145

Hey, you. I know you lurk this thread. Yes, you, the fucker who can't go one week without a new vegas thread on /v/. The poor asshole who has to pretend he hasn't played in a while and needs a list of recommended mods. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

You can't just like the game and leave it at that, no, you have to turn this into a fucking statement. You don't like New Vegas for what it is, but for what it's up against. That's why you're here, in this thread, that's why you probably already posted two or three times, acting smug at Todd, proclaiming how much you despise nuFallout. Which is all well and good, but you'll still play New Vegas, post in the hypocritical "r-recommended New Vegas mods guise ?" thread, or even be its OP.

Don't fool yourself. New Vegas is an unfinished, badly designed piece of shit and you know it. With the time you've invested in it, you could be blind and you'd still see the huge amounts of empty padding any other game would be crucified for. New Vegas isn't good. You just hold it on a pedestal because it's the only way you can indulge in the bethesdashit you claim to hate and still think you're the more distinguished consumer.

Keep believing that, you stupid shit. Todd has you. He owns your soul with his gamebryo garbage. You think you don't just because it has Chris Avelonne writing on it? If Avelonne made a difference, you would have played once, nodded, and moved the fuck on. But you're still playing and endlessly shilling the game close to a decade later. You're a fucking Bethesdadrone in denial. You can pretend otherwise, but I know. Keep running if you want, being a mindless cultist praying to your Big Iron gods. I know you love Todd like you love Big Brother, and only a veneer of irony can make you live with yourself.


6f2848  No.16627166

File: 73543ed53848624⋯.jpg (22.76 KB, 403x403, 1:1, 1429966068163.jpg)

>>16627145

love it


d6307e  No.16627260

Hey, you. I know you lurk this thread. Yes, you, the fucker who can't go one week without a new vegas thread on /v/. The poor asshole who has to pretend he hasn't played in a while and needs a list of recommended mods. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

You can't just like the game and leave it at that, no, you have to turn this into a fucking statement. You don't like New Vegas for what it is, but for what it's up against. That's why you're here, in this thread, that's why you probably already posted two or three times, acting smug at Todd, proclaiming how much you despise nuFallout. Which is all well and good, but you'll still play New Vegas, post in the hypocritical "r-recommended New Vegas mods guise ?" thread, or even be its OP.

Don't fool yourself. New Vegas is an unfinished, badly designed piece of shit and you know it. With the time you've invested in it, you could be blind and you'd still see the huge amounts of empty padding any other game would be crucified for. New Vegas isn't good. You just hold it on a pedestal because it's the only way you can indulge in the bethesdashit you claim to hate and still think you're the more distinguished consumer.

Keep believing that, you stupid shit. Todd has you. He owns your soul with his gamebryo garbage. You think you don't just because it has Chris Avelonne writing on it? If Avelonne made a difference, you would have played once, nodded, and moved the fuck on. But you're still playing and endlessly shilling the game close to a decade later. You're a fucking Bethesdadrone in denial. You can pretend otherwise, but I know. Keep running if you want, being a mindless cultist praying to your Big Iron gods. I know you love Todd like you love Big Brother, and only a veneer of irony can make you live with yourself.


f47819  No.16627695

>>16625940

For new players, it's important to know about the stats starting out. Except for in a few cases, your SPECIAL scores don't matter, they are flavor text and do not affect the game unless you go really extreme in some.

>Strength

Only important for weapons with strength requirements. Safely put 5 points in this and ignore. HP doesn't matter because even on the highest difficulty the game is easy.

>Perception

Useless, do not put points into this; the text says it affects weapon accuracy, but this was never implemented in the final release of the game and is not true.

>Endurance

HP does not matter as mentioned above, ignore this.

>Charisma

Virtually all dialogue checks that would utilize Charisma are speech skill checks. Speech can be raised when you level up regardless of your Charisma score, so this stat is almost completely useless. Ignore.

>Intelligence

This is the most important stat in the game. It determines how many skill points you get each level. With 10 int, you can raise Speech to the max level in just a couple hours even if you start with 1 Charisma.

>Agility

The game says it affects run speed, but this was never implemented and is not true. It does affect reload speed. I used to have a chart I made that showed how much each point of agility affected reload speed. Iirc, the benefits kind of drop off after 6 points.

>Luck

Seeing as low luck doesn't give you critical failures, this stat is also useless. That said, it can still be a dump stat just because it will give you more crits and God knows none of the other stats do anything. Also makes you good at slot machines, but you'll be rolling in caps by the time you reach NV because the game is easy.

For skills, I'll try to be more brief.

>Barter

Ammo and health are too easy to scavenge to justify this skill being used. Ignore.

>Energy weapons, guns, melee

Basically choose one and stick to it, unless you really want to do two for RP purposes.

>Explosives

Ignore.

>Lockpick or science

Choose one, virtually every locked door will have a computer next to it that unlocks it. Science is actually useful if you use energy weapons because you can condense your literal thousands of energy cells into stronger cells (50 Science will unlock all these). If you choose both, unlock the door with a pin, then hack the terminal so you get exp for both.

>Medicine

Has a decent number of skill checks in the game, and healing buff is okay though not necessary. This skill gets a B+.

>Repair

Ignore. Use repair kits for weapons, ammo is too plentiful to justify reloading your own.

>Sneak

Ignore unless it's for RP purposes. IMO you'll find the game is just kind of shitty when sneaking. Nothing makes stealing or sneaking fun because the world isn't really made for it.

>Speech

Lots of checks in the game, if you want a talky character, then take it. My main criticism is that speech is hardly the "peaceful, nonviolent" route, as lots of your speech checks involve you threatening to kill people if they don't do what you want.

>Survival

Ignore. Even for RP, ignore. I tried leveling it because I had a character who liked to cook, but the high level recipes are just dumb and don't confer much of a bonus either.

>Unarmed

Ignore.

All in all, you'll find at most four useful skills and really no significantly useful stats besides intelligence. Even if you play on hardcore mode, food and water are so plentiful that they never really become a challenge, just interesting flavor text (like how coyote tobacco makes you more 'awake' because it has a slight -SLP effect). Fallout New Vegas is basically Flavor Text: The Game, because the items and stats don't change your experience, they're just there for your character. Your choices of where you go and who you talk to etc. are where the real meat is at.


9f139e  No.16627718

>>16627345

>There was always a third option we just weren't men enough to take it


6f2848  No.16627719

>>16626077

The Sawyer mod is great. Brings the game a little bit closer to an experience based on one man's vision rather than watered-down, design-by-committee stuff.


9f139e  No.16627730

Are the additional area mods worth it? I see one adds 159 new locations, small edits like camps and storefronts I presume, and another that adds various internal areas behind closed doors.

Was New Vegas so vacant as to need this shit?


ff7331  No.16627740

>>16627730

Not really. There's some areas that are a bit barren, but generally, you'll always see something interesting in the distance to walk towards. Try that shit after you've beaten the game once.


29824a  No.16627741

>>16627719

Some of the stuff in it is great. Hell, I'd say it's downright amazing. Except for the part where it kills your fucking carry weight. If I knew how to change the mod to remove the bullshit carry capacity changes, I'd do it this instant and start a new playthrough. But I don't know how to jump through all the hoops that are involved with NV modding, so I'm stuck bitching about the mod since it makes the game incredibly tedious to play.


2f5b07  No.16627743

File: cbc84e3825053d0⋯.jpg (6.69 MB, 2432x3648, 2:3, 72710097_p0.jpg)

>>16627166

Have you heard about the new pozzed and cucked Toy Story sequel? This time around it's Woody that's getting raped.


6711d4  No.16627746

>>16627743

>This time around it's Woody that's getting raped.

What comes around goes around i guess


6f2848  No.16627752

>>16627741

It might make your preferred style of play tedious, but there's more than one way to play the game.

Also, if you're going to play on hardcore mode anyway and so have to deal with hunger, thirst, and sleep, is it sensible to also be able to run around with 300 pounds and multiple suits of power armour around on your back?


ff7331  No.16627757

>>16627752

>muh 46 suits of power armor

No, it's not sensible, but I'm playing a videogame, and being unable to carry the armor I'm wearing plus three guns and ammo is going to piss me off regardless.


dba012  No.16627771

File: 0e90fdc8d73fcde⋯.jpg (66.26 KB, 800x587, 800:587, 0e90fdc8d73fcdefc559d6e45f….jpg)


29824a  No.16627779

>>16627752

Part of the problem is that the weight carry limit is set so low as to be unrealistic. A soyboy can carry around heavier grocery bags than the Courier can with the JSawyer mod. And if you're playing hardcore, between your weapon, your ammo, your armor, your chems, and the miscellaneous items you need out in the wastes (anti-venom, water, food, etc, etc) you'll almost be at the weight limit.

It's the same issue Outward has: if you prepare and carry consumables around, you'll basically be at the carry limit and you won't be able to pick up the majority of the loot you find.


6f2848  No.16627797

>>16627779

The weight limit is fine if you take into account the fact that you can run and jump around with no restrictions. Have you ever tried hiking with more than 50 pounds on your back?

Also, given than Fallout wasn't a gear and loot-based franchise until Bethesda got their greasy palms on it, I don't see an issue with having to be selective about your loot. It also increases the value of companions, which are another big part of the game.


6711d4  No.16627824

File: 6fd10ed7f26a885⋯.png (21.7 KB, 598x448, 299:224, 6fd10ed7f26a8853d37ee0b808….png)

>>16627695

What a horrible post. Good bait though.


29824a  No.16627841

>>16627797

Fallout 1 barely had any loot to carry around, or to buy. While money was valuable, there wasn't much to spend it on. You also had less "stuff" you needed to carry around at a given time, which freed up a lot of carry capacity. Fallout 2 had a lot more loot drop, but you could also have multiple companions to carry stuff around, which kind of balanced things out. NV has a metric fuck ton of loot - especially crafting materials - but you're capped on companions pretty hard. Not only that, but shit in NV is super expensive, so it takes a really long time to reach a point where you no longer need caps. And that's especially true if you use the more expensive types of weaponry. Hell, with an Explosives build which is great fun, Eye for an Eye with all the Explosives perks is insanely strong will leave you cap starved from start to finish.

>have you tried hiking around with more than 50 pounds on your back?

My boots, jeans, belt, shirt, coat, water bottle, and whatever I carry in my pocket is already taking up a large portion of that 50lbs. Add a backpack with 10-15lbs of stuff and you're getting pretty close to your 50lbs carry limit. Guess who runs around with 10-15lbs backpacks, winter boots, winter coats, scarf + hat + mittens? Grade schoolers. Your 50lbs limit is bullshit, you just never thought about it.


04d853  No.16627863

>>16627695

>all of this post

Useless, ignore.


6f2848  No.16627865

File: 15183e81b2b6906⋯.jpg (38.08 KB, 422x422, 1:1, 1461765877783.jpg)

>>16627841

>My boots, jeans, belt, shirt, coat, water bottle, and whatever I carry in my pocket is already taking up a large portion of that 50lbs

But that's wrong. Go on a long hike with all your overnight gear on your back and you'll see what I mean. It just sounds to me like you don't want a challenge and would prefer a Bethesda-style playground in which everything is easy and the whole point is just to kill enemies in funny ways.


f47819  No.16627877

>>16627812

I'm not saying to min-max, I'm only pointing out which stats and skills don't impact the game. Considering the game straight up lies to you about some of them, it's useful information.


c6f4a6  No.16627890

File: ccb465f1b25a47b⋯.png (162.68 KB, 488x368, 61:46, thmbs.png)

>>16627695

>Speech can be raised when you level up regardless of your Charisma score, so this stat is almost completely useless. Ignore.

underrated


ff7331  No.16627927

>>16627877

You're telling him to skip Sneak and Explosives, instead of telling him to combine Sneak and Explosives.


3e3128  No.16627956

File: 0323549bd59a7fa⋯.png (213.16 KB, 410x320, 41:32, HELP ME.png)

>>16627695

Did we even play the same game?


f47819  No.16627961

>>16627938

>VATS in 3D Fallout

Oh no, don't do that


3e3128  No.16627972

>>16627961

>don't play the game using the crutch that makes shooting viable

Oh shit, I see what's going on here. You got me, anon.


6711d4  No.16627975

File: 48f1ca285c33a82⋯.gif (452.41 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 48f1ca285c33a824002deb4b95….gif)

>>16627961

VATS is great for fast moving enemies and/or thos that get in your face.


9b5017  No.16627986

>>16627975

>Thos

Are you trying to say foes?


29824a  No.16627995

>>16627865

>retard can't seem to understand the concept that every day life items you carry around have weight

>retard can't seem to understand the concept of weight distribution

>retard can't seem to understand metric

>retard can't seem to understand that a healthy adult won't be encumbered by carrying the equivalent of a few water bottles in a backpack

>retard can't seem to understand that NV doesn't have a stamina system

>retard can't seem to understand there's no correlation between tedium and challenge

You are one dumb motherfucker. Go do some speed runs or something.


a0e361  No.16628029

>>16627138

Legion are more like the barbarians that destroyed western rome than rome itself.


6f2848  No.16628056

File: b502b42f2126a44⋯.jpg (67.27 KB, 580x499, 580:499, 1429388889587.jpg)

>>16627995

What a reasonable and proportionate response. You seem agitated.

>>16628013

Our mutual friend is complaining that the carry limit in jsawyer is too low for him to enjoy the playstyle he likes best. Fair enough, but the fact that it makes the game too difficult for you to achieve your favourite playstyle is not a good reason to shit on the mod. Perhaps stacking explosives was too easy at 300lb carry weight to begin with.

Also

>the old artificial vs organic difficulty point

Well it would have been great if Sawyer had made sweeping changes to the combat AI and revamped all the areas so you can't cheese the enemies, but he was one guy making a mod in his spare time and it's pretty damned good for what it is.


43234f  No.16628092

>>16628056

>Perhaps stacking explosives was too easy at 300lb carry weight to begin with

Then just make them take up more fucking space. Its carry weight, not real weight, and any sense of comparing it to real life is thrown out the window when fucking batteries weigh more for having more energy in them.


6f2848  No.16628114

>>16628074

Max INT builds are pure entry-level, since you quickly end up with more skill points than you ever need. With 3 INT you can skill get 100 in all skills before the level cap.


3e3128  No.16628125

>>16628114

Minmaxing in NV in general is entry-level, since the game is so fucking easy.


6f2848  No.16628157

File: d256f16431abec6⋯.jpg (316.58 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, 1415047392463.jpg)

>>16628125

The truth.

And one of the reasons jsawyer is good, because it makes things less of a cakewalk.


3e3128  No.16628165

>>16628157

Are there any mods that increase the amount of damage done to everything? I remember using RWD back in the day, but something fucked up and my damage values would change when I equipped weapons, I could never figure out what was causing it.


6711d4  No.16628174

>>16628165

Because different weapons have different damage you fucking dip.


1f2f57  No.16628179

File: 264dcb05ea23d9d⋯.png (9.25 KB, 409x406, 409:406, 75bee3824153033c4cee3798cd….png)

>>16628074

>10 in anything

>not just getting the implant


3e3128  No.16628190

>>16628174

No, you angry retard, it would show a value on the weapon when it was unequipped, and the value would change when I equipped it.


6711d4  No.16628206

>>16628190

Exactly you dumb faggot.


dba012  No.16628209

>>16628179

I would argue 10 in INT at the start is worth for the extra skill points


6f2848  No.16628229

>>16628220

10 INT has been recommended at least three times in this thread


dba012  No.16628233

>>16628218

>>16628220

you can beat the game "easily" with most any build. I am just stating that 10 INT at the start can be worth it for the skill points


6f2848  No.16628274

>>16628239

>trying this hard to misinterpret what everyone is saying to maintain the facade of having a real argument

The point is that 10 INT gets recommended all the time regardless of whether it's someone's first or fiftieth playthrough, because people are wedded to the notion of having as many skill points as possible even though there are much more fun ways to play if you don't waste all those SPECIAL points.


1f2f57  No.16628299

File: 3bee6d6a1238c66⋯.jpg (187.36 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, low int.jpg)

>>16628274

All these anons should try a low INT playthrough


29824a  No.16628324

>>16628299

The low INT playthrough is garbage in NV. Most of your conversations don't factor in the fact that you're a retard. And it's not like FO1/2 where it completely changes how you need to approach the game.


6f2848  No.16628349

>>16628324

>having to record hours of extra dialogue just for low INT characters

Voice acting ruined RPGs, prove me wrong


2f5b07  No.16628358

>>16628349

That's 100% correct, so I can't.


b55436  No.16628594

What's with all the retards in this thread all of a sudden?


dba012  No.16628600

>>16628242

you mongaloid it doesnt matter what build you run thats the point its an rpg


1f2f57  No.16628695

>>16628594

Maybe there was a 4um exodus again


43234f  No.16628701

>>16628686

>reddit spacing

Go back


560e19  No.16628725

>>16625940

Just put your stat points on charisma and luck, and shitpost your way through the mojave. Either that or go in blind, you'll have a blast anyways


5f0964  No.16628875

>>16628831

A lot of people fucking love that mod but my experience was very similar to yours. The first time I met her I immediately reloaded a save from before I entered her tent, and kept on walking. Her VO is fucking atrocious - it really does sound like an overweight 30-something gamer gurl. I still don't understand where the hype came from.

>crazy bitch kills the dog and fucks a computer

That sounds hilarious, maybe I should go back and recruit her.


0151ca  No.16628902

>>16628745

>be reddit-spacing cuckchanner

>try to posture and claim others are the cuckchanners

>think every new IP is just someone IP-hopping

No, it turns out people hate cuckchanners like you and want you to go back.


253e52  No.16629844

File: 2d6d1b8fafc3a81⋯.png (378.7 KB, 628x720, 157:180, 60518995_412659195951008_2….png)

I know this might be off topic, but this is still technically a NV thread.

Are there any good alternatives to DUST? I like its premise, but I don't like the execution. I don't like getting instantly fucked by tunnelers or landmines placed right outside of a starting building when first starting out. I also hated the over-reliance on keys opening up every important door, along with the fact that the keys are in the weirdest places you can only find with dumb luck not talking about the stat lol after hours of searching IIRC.

I just hate how all the 3D fallout games don't ever feel like they take place in an actual post apocalypse to me (except maybe Fallout 3, but only aesthetically because it's a Bethesda game).


ff7331  No.16630535

>>16629844

>I just hate how all the 3D fallout games don't ever feel like they take place in an actual post apocalypse

Well, NV and 3 take place over 200 years after the apocalypse. They shouldn't feel like they're in Mad Max style post-apocalypse.


75a482  No.16630760

>>16625940

be sure to venture to lone wolf radio and get sensor modules, a pile of scrap electronics, and get 3 piles of scrap metal so you can have ED-E help you along the way.


d0691a  No.16631645

>>16626109

What did heUnless he became she or whatever bullsihtsay about it?


244cce  No.16631674

>>16625940

Use true ironsights mode, you will never ever need vats if you just learn to aim.

You can even kill deathclaws with a varmit rifle if you just use AP rounds and get sneak attack headshots from a distance. Crank your guns skill to 100 immediately for dat accuracy, fuck energy weapons right to death.

Don't use regular service rifles, they're absolute dogshit accuracy to the point you have to spray from the hip at point blank range to hit anything. Get the variant service rifle and ranger armour from honest hearts at any level and you've beaten the game, they're that good.


244cce  No.16631678

>>16625940

Also, get 100 repair and the jury rigging and the hand-loader perks. They are essential for your survival, ensuring you always have unlimited special ammo types and fully-repaired weapons.


d0691a  No.16631698

>>16631570

>The pic

We need more of this shit.


244cce  No.16631768

>>16631737

the sights are often misaligned, but there are mods to fix that.

Even if you don't fix it, it's just a matter of learning where to shoot for your favourite guns.


c7ff12  No.16631820

>>16631570

>>16631754

>filenames


c7ff12  No.16631880

>>16631857

Both of this images are pre-exodus.

I know you're baiting but I'll take it, since 2016 all of 4um's OC has been the same exact shit. Wojak, Pepe, some random symbol is now a hate symbol, just the same old memes.


ef8da7  No.16631883

>>16631857

>tfw when 4chan has better oc

>you know it to be true, mostly

In what universe? Do you find Clown Pepe and Zoomer Wojak to be the heights of originality? 4chan hasn't produced any good OC since Virgin vs Chad, and even then most of those images were made on Twitter and reddit.

Good bait daddy uwu, feed me more~~


b55436  No.16631891

>>16631857

2009 4chan isn't the same place as the reddit 2.0 you crossposting scum post on.


79f475  No.16631924

>>16628831

Most companion mods are shit, especially the ones with female companions


44fdc8  No.16631925

>cuckchanner enters thread and immediately starts derailing

lol ok

So what's the highest possible damage you can do in a single hit and what's the highest DPS?


c7ff12  No.16631933

>>16631925

I googled it and it turns out somebody on plebbit has already figured both of those out.

>The highest DAM would be:

> A shot from Esther firing:

> Tiny tot mini nukes (1.88x explosive damage), used by a player with the perks:

> Lord Death, Bloody Mess, Demolition Expert Rank 3, and Thought You Died.

> That would give an impact damage of 565.3 points plus an explosive damage of 2019.12 points. Adding and rounding, you'd do about 2584 damage in a single hit, assuming the impact damage is split between each tiny tot.

>As for DPS? If you use the:

> CZ57 Avenger with:

> 5 mm HP ammo against:

> A totally unarmoured enemy and have:

> Bloody Mess, Lord Death, Ain't Like That Now, Fast Shot, and Rapid Reload, you'd do:

>24.85 DAM per shot, which rounds down to 24, and fire 42 times per second, 1008 DPS for just under 3 seconds.

>EDIT: Neither of these scenarios take into account chems such as psycho, rushing water, or turbo.


b55436  No.16631934

>>16631924

Most mods in general are shit. I never really understood people's obsession with mods for these games, besides the obvious bug fixes.


fbc182  No.16631967

File: 9aec8cd3719f143⋯.jpg (191.98 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, floater.jpg)

Has anyone used the monster mod for NV? The thought of fighting terminators, aliens, stalker mutants and other weird shit sounds fun. Does it work well?


efee61  No.16631978

>>16631967

You know terminators and stalker mutants sounds cool and all but aliens are a bit out of place dont you think? I know there is a bunch of aliens already in the game but they're only there if you're insane and have the wild wasteland perk on.


fbc182  No.16632041

>>16631978

>aliens are a bit out of place

I agree, the aliens in the series have always been a tongue-in-cheek reference to Area51/Roswell incident, barring that FO3 DLC. I've already put plenty of hours into vanilla NV, so whenever I go back to play it one more time I'd like to go balls to the wall with more stuff


ff7331  No.16632141

>>16631967

That reminds me, I absolutely fucking detest the "muh modern day realistic wepuns in New Vegas, so cool amirite??????" fags. Yeah, you made a fucking P90 mod for New Vegas. Except it's super detailed looking, doesn't fit the fucking artstyle of the game in the slightest, and requires six different autism inducing "realistic gun calibers" mods to work at all.


d2e7b4  No.16632170

>>16632141

Absolutely disgusting. What's worse is that hours of work was wasted on that shit and there still isn't a decent double-barreled shotgun mod.


83ee89  No.16632179

>>16631967

It's a little buggy and the balance is terrible. I highly recommend it though.


fbc182  No.16632279

File: f63be835bb150d0⋯.jpg (541.3 KB, 1768x992, 221:124, lookingood.jpg)

>>16632179

>buggy

I wouldn't have it any other way, anon. Thanks for your recommendation


1f2f57  No.16633383

File: 043eb1c32829de2⋯.png (267.41 KB, 1280x991, 1280:991, tumblr_inline_pth5ciO5cT1r….png)

>>16631645

He might be a lib, but he defended New Vegas having rape in it at one point. I'll basically repost the Q&A:

>Q: The armor formula in NV was pretty sophisticated and non-obvious. What were the goals for it and why use the formula you did, as opposed to others?

<A: I don’t think it was particularly sophisticated, and it does have an in-game pop-up where you can read (ignore) the fine details of how it’s operating.

<I had a few goals:

<* Allow “infinite” scalability (which %-based DR logically cannot).

<* Prevent total damage negation (which is where the 20% Min damage comes from).

<* Allow small caliber, high RoF firearms to be easily contrasted with large caliber, low RoF firearms by their viability against different levels of DT.

<* Fairly easy to understand that higher number = more protection in a linear fashion.

<The system is pretty straightforward: DT is subtracted directly from each “tick” of incoming damage, but damage can never be reduced below 20% of its initial value.

<It was pretty easy to mock up in an Excel spreadsheet to see how different damage values interacted with different DT values in individual instances. Those instances could then be multiplied over a RoF to indicate “true” DPS assuming 100% accuracy without crits.

<To be clear, the spreadsheets were only a starting point and a tuning aid. They were never a replacement for actually playing the game and seeing the impact that changing weapon / armor stats had in play. In fact, I went back to look at my working Excel sheets and I had not updated them since early March of 2010 (7 months prior to shipping the game). Once we were in full production, all tuning was done in editor/engine, not in a spreadsheet.

<pic related

<The places where the DT system failed to hold up were the places where pure DT systems typically fail: extremely low value, high RoF damage applications (where DT almost immediately reduces damage to the minimum threshold) and huge burst damage (e.g. from a mini nuke).

<To address the latter concern, I re-introduced low DR values to armor in my jsawyer patch. In cases where a character is hit by something for 100 points of damage (e.g.) and they’re wearing 12 DT armor with 15% DR, the DR provides a more sizable amount of reduction.


1f2f57  No.16633415

Also in reference to an earlier post, here's Sawyer talking about Arcade Gannon:

>Q:

>When did the battle of Hoover Dam happen in Van Buren's timeline? In one of the Avellone's design documents (probably his PnP game) from 2002, there is a statement stat Caesar's Legion had many clashes with NCR Rangers during 2218-2223, resulting in final battle of Hoover Dam, though compared to the rest of timeline settings in leaked design documents, it appears to be too early. Thank you for your time.

<A:

<I didn’t have any part in defining the timeline (or other content) in Chris’ documents. He’s the person to ask for any clarification in that material. The only things I’m familiar with are the two characters I played in the campaign (Arcade Gannon and Jean-Baptiste Cutting) and the content we directly played through, which was (IIRC) the prison, Denver, and the Boulder Dome.


011277  No.16633470

>>16626086

im glad im not the only one with this self imposed rule


43234f  No.16633509

>>16631934

New Vegas Bounties 1 and 2 were pretty good.


d4f5ff  No.16634129

>>16625972

>sneak around the cazadors

I do the same thing with the deathclaws at quarry junction by hugging the right cliff. It's very doable even without a stealthboy.


0eb82e  No.16634963

>>16627730

no, new vegas is just big enough. keep in mind, this isn't a game you will be pumping dozens upon dozens of hours into, there is no post game, map is very dense, and most exploration is done at the very edges, where you would never go otherwise


0eb82e  No.16635070

>>16632170

play the tale of two wastelands, go to point lookout


d5f7f2  No.16635086

File: dbc36bae3a49a96⋯.webm (4.14 MB, 640x360, 16:9, c7ji_euRLoo.webm)

>>16633509

dont forget about new vegas killers

it isnt that good as bounties but the writing is kinda funny


d7c2a3  No.16635111

>>16634129

>anti-mat exp rounds

>vats hollow point rounds to cripple wings with any gun

There, i just trivialized fighting cazadores for everyone


d7c2a3  No.16635118

>>16631933

Best dps is medicine stick with HP rounds and cowboy perk if youre playing on very hard, every fight is completely trivial when you can vats 3x 240 damg rounds to the head with a high chance to crit, i mainly use it in portions where there are a ridiculous amount of high DT high hp enemies like the escape section in honest hearts. Most low damg high dps weapons dont work at all on very hard, especially on high lvl enemies

regards over 3000 hours played


28f896  No.16635138

File: 06dbb96be1dfda3⋯.jpg (913.89 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 22490_screenshots_FalloutN….jpg)

My biggest achievement in nv


d7c2a3  No.16635147

>>16635138

Now do a run where you dont level speech at all


b55436  No.16635152

>>16635138

What's with that shitty font?


af7a90  No.16635179

Anon is really important that you know that Caesar has cancer and he is dying, Mr. Hourse is a decrepit corpse in crionics, the Followers of the Apocalypse are former Enclave members, Veronica is a lesbo and that Ulises is your father


d7c2a3  No.16635189

>>16626601

NV>2>1>4>3

Cannot be refuted


6711d4  No.16635196

File: 945440588548cfb⋯.gif (1.4 MB, 320x240, 4:3, DogWhat.gif)

>>16635189

I havent played either 4 or 3 but isnt 4 considered the worst one by far?


b55436  No.16635201

File: 8c97df052336462⋯.png (160.09 KB, 872x632, 109:79, 8c97df052336462c5afb33ec6f….png)

>>16635189

>4 above anything


d7c2a3  No.16635217

File: c76eb514b45032e⋯.jpg (246.12 KB, 1000x1111, 1000:1111, monster canteen.jpg)

>>16635201

>>16635196

if you dont consider 4 as a "fallout" game per se it is way superior to 3 since it works very well as a survival crafting wasteland game, 3 is just dogshit in all categories, horrible story and dialogue combined with piss poor rpg mechanics and lore


4521c4  No.16635232

>>16635217

4’s story is almost worse than 3. I’d say it’s extremely close to being equivalent. It’s certainly a more modern-feeling game, but 17 year old engine


b55436  No.16635242

>>16635217

As shit as 3 is, 4 is 100x worse due to the voiced protagonist and 4 dialog choices that all do the same thing.


c7ff12  No.16635246

>>16635217

>boomer memes

anon pls


d7c2a3  No.16635258

File: ad32785780da65d⋯.jpg (223.77 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, love live carat bad luck.jpg)

>>16635232

>>16635242

The story of 4 is garbage, obviously, but the game runs better and actually performs well as a shooter survival hoarding game, which are basically its only merits.

Im basically trying to say that if you were to completely discount the story and look at these bethesda monstrosities not as fallout games but just regular games, 4 performs well. Its not a bad game, but it is a bad fallout game if it can be called that. 3 has aged very poorly and basically has no merits anymore since the lore is awful.


d7c2a3  No.16635290

>>16635271

With a few performance mods you can actually hit enemies that are moving sideways fast and also get constant 100+ fps with gtx 1080. Fallout 3 combat on the other hand is the wonkiest shit ever even with mods and the games internal fps cant even go past 60fps without gamebryo engine falling apart, amazed that they managed to even somewhat fix that in fallout 4 as it still uses the same engine. I guess the drawback is that cars still fly in the sky and models explode out of the ground even at under 60fps in fallout 4


d7c2a3  No.16635332

>>16635313

I see your sentiment, but imagine if you never played a fallout game before and had to play vanilla fallout 3 now in 2019. I sure as hell couldnt play that shit, could barely sink a few hundred hours in it back in 2008-2010. If soneone held a gun to your head and forced you to choose between playing 500 hours of fallout 3 or fallout 4, which would you choose?


d7c2a3  No.16635408

>>16635373

Make that any AAA game and you are probably on to something there fella


9e6776  No.16635421

File: e0421805e4eaed7⋯.png (539.98 KB, 852x440, 213:110, m7yye0mnsws01 (1).png)

Side with the Legion


d7c2a3  No.16635428

>>16635421

We are on 8ch so obviously he should side with the lucky 38 cripplekike


d7c2a3  No.16635465

File: 6f3c2f97222c74a⋯.jpg (291.05 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20190530160054_1.jpg)

>>16635438

It implies that it was better, at least tolerable at release, not necessarily good. Even if you dont like the writing of new vegas, you cant deny that it has retained the proper rpg mechanics, milieu and general feel of fallout 2 and 1, which bethesda has never managed to come even close to.


0eb82e  No.16635578

>>16635258

4 does the faction system much better than nv in my opinion. people usually tend to run with one faction in nv, f4 gives you incentives for siding with eac one, and it even gives you a 5th fsction you can side with in the nuka world dlc

speaking of which, t here is not enough raider content in fallout, they are the most interesting faction, and yet, relegated to generic low lv combat mooks in most


d4f5ff  No.16636342

>>16635111

I was adding to the other anon's method of getting to NV from Goodsprings at the beginning of the game, although I never bother fighting Cazadors myself until I get a reliable rifle.


724170  No.16636350

>>16635242

Fo3’s story and dialogue is undiluted dogshit and fucking retarded to boot. The only parts that have any merit is The Pitt and parts of Point Lookout. 4 has a lot of flaws but the NPC AI has FPS AI instead of slightly re-worked Oblivion AI and the factions have some nuance and flaws instead of being black/white good/bad.


29824a  No.16636567

>>16631933

And as usual reddit is retarded since it doesn't take into account Eye for Eye or the fact that most of your mini nukes will miss or that you'll kill yourself with the shot. I fucking hate theorycrafters so fucking much.

>>16635138

Impressively autistic, but still. Damn.


961aee  No.16636607

File: 935c04f81281de7⋯.jpg (136.23 KB, 500x618, 250:309, hawko fist.jpg)

>>16626344

>>16635070

Tale of Two wasteland is the only reason I got 1300 hours of gameplay in new vegas, overshadowing how much I got in stalker.

I still think Stalker is a better game,I wish it had as much content as new vegas did though.


0eb82e  No.16636932

>>16636350

funny thing, if you added more factions, and gave the player the option to actually choose who you side with, f3's story wouldn't be that bad. the ingridients are all there, just let the player side with the enclave(either the eugenical kill everything enclave with eden or the proper us government taking back it's land with autumn), be able to side with those talon mercs as a more neutral option, hell, let the players side with the institute, since they bothered to include them in the game. can't really fix the stupid world of f3 or it's shitty dialogue, but just giving the main quest, the only thing that matters, more depth, and actually allowing roleplaying, would do wonders for the game. I think obliivion wore them down, and they wanted a more traditional "one sided" story, I heard in an interview, forgot which one. maybe modders will fix it one day, gameplay of f3 is already somewhat bearable with ttw, now it just needs a nv like faction driven story and main questline


4ebcd4  No.16637768

File: 33eba785dc835f7⋯.jpg (306.72 KB, 1680x1050, 8:5, mtui.jpg)

Get utilities (5GB patcher, NV Anti-crash, LOOT) and maybe some texture packs and ENBs, and most importantly of all, something that fixes the retarded UI.

As for playing the game, you can do pretty much anything you think of. I suggest tagging one combat skill (self-explanatory), one support skill (medicine, repair, sneak, survival) and one utility skill (the rest, which will progress quests with checks). If you plan in specializing in one kind of weapon and want easier skill checks, take the Good Natured trait (spend 5 points for 25 points in more useful skills).


d7c2a3  No.16638418

>>16635578

in 4 you can just literally be everyones friend until the very last mission and who youre friends with doesnt matter at all since all the quests and outcomes are the same, i didnt even remember 4 had a faction system until i read your post. f4 factions are like skyrims factions, soulless empty husks


0eb82e  No.16639006

>>16638418

in nv, you can also be everybody's friend until the point of no return, wo i don't really know what you're talking about. factions are one of the few things f4 got right, and thry obviously had more time to flesh them out than obsidian did, every faction has representation, not just ncr


a8b9da  No.16639082

>>16636932

>the ingredients are all there

No, they aren't. the concept of the main quest of FO3 is utterly retarded, I don't know how much Todd pays you to shill his pieces of shit but it isn't worth it.


0eb82e  No.16639088

>>16639082

well, as good as fallout 3 can be. let's be honest, f3 always was, and always will be, todd's teenage fallout fanfiction. that's not a bad thing tho, point is that if you're going to have this massive wank war between the enclave and the brotherhood of steel, along with a giant patriotic robot, mght as well go all in on it


bf187a  No.16644268

>>16625942

hardcore mode and no mods on first run

Either you have some insane guts or you're straight up mental.

OP, if I were you, I'd just get the bug fix mods, maybe an ENB or something and have fun, you can experiment with the wacky shit like Project Nevada and as a personal recommendation, though I can't really play it due to my PC being so terrible it can't keep NV at low with ini tweaks at 30fps, Fallout Who Vegas, if you're into wacky doctor who bullshit.


e7a6b5  No.16644906

>>16635246

it's okay anon, 30 isn't the end it's the start of the end


efee61  No.16645459

File: a0eae68011ce292⋯.jpg (29.65 KB, 294x335, 294:335, wow fam desu.jpg)

>>16635138

>no stimpaks

>no creatures killed

Impressive


91f38c  No.16645471

File: 524723415e9d416⋯.png (59.01 KB, 1162x806, 581:403, bethesda obsidian fallout.png)

>>16644417

Yfw


91f38c  No.16645475

>>16644268

Kek what kind of third world pc do you have?


ad0809  No.16645479

>>16625940

>What should I know before I start?

that anons that hype the game are shills and it's not worth playing.


91f38c  No.16645491

File: 31773cf08c599df⋯.png (79.66 KB, 500x501, 500:501, 1437272929769.png)


c6ed84  No.16645518

>>16644268

The fuck are you on about? I went through the revised sawyers mod with tale of two wastelands on hardcore hardest mode for my first playthrough as I saw someone shilling it as the best vanilla new game+ in a past thread. I think you just need to git gud.

>>16645479

Also this, the game(s) aren't nearly as good as the shills say. But if you are looking for a timewaster, resource management shooter, and somewhat engaging story go for it. I never tried a game after new vegas/3 since the hype is fake and it is said that the later games are more of the same with downgrades for casuals.


254436  No.16649142

File: 2f15852301e5aa3⋯.png (429.56 KB, 510x388, 255:194, Clapping Bear[1].png)

>>16625940

two bears high fiving


ad90b7  No.16649186

>>16625940

Most of the DLC is actually tiresome trash, finish DLC quests once you've almost done all of the base game. Activate Wild Wasteland if you want random goofy encounters, I like it. Play unmodded.


72a918  No.16649196

File: dccde8ad1f2ac9d⋯.png (339.58 KB, 510x388, 255:194, SameFetish.png)

>>16649142

Those are two erect Tanuki, look at the balls.


0c6834  No.16649204

>>16625940

>download newest version

>download proper mods for it: anti-crash, unofficial fix, Yukifix, MCM, and a tiny handful of actual mods

>crashes when walking around

>crashes when I open a door

>crashes when I open a container

>crashes in under 5 minutes every time

Unacceptable. The fuck is this shit. Worst part is that it USED to work. I played it years ago.


861f77  No.16650152

File: bd7e5c29e6dc160⋯.png (127.46 KB, 600x760, 15:19, Finnish Royal House Spärde.png)


512458  No.16650155

File: 88e89cea375015d⋯.png (301.85 KB, 515x343, 515:343, mmm.png)

>>16649204

>tint handful of actual mods


c7ff12  No.16650613


477910  No.16651963

File: 733e35a08bce1d5⋯.jpg (83.42 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

Reminder that Ulysses did nothing wrong


de4944  No.16652384

>>16625942

Get some basic texture mods and whatever community bug fix patches are out there.

My biggest issue with the game is that the enemies become massive bullet sponges toward the end, so don't fuck around with firearms for too long.

I once found a mod to normalize enemy scaling a little in the end game, but I forgot what it's called as I haven't played in years.

Overall though, it's a great rpg. Have fun


43234f  No.16652392

>>16651963

>you delivered a package that accidentally set off nukes beneath a town I liked

>now I'm gonna nuke a civilization just because you happen to like them

He was way too preachy, and unlike the other DLC's there weren't other characters to balance out his.


866502  No.16652443

File: af4316b6c45fe4a⋯.png (734.04 KB, 595x432, 595:432, ClipboardImage.png)

File: b262c435de11de2⋯.png (267.64 KB, 510x388, 255:194, 2f15852301e5aa3de522415746….png)

>>16649142

I always thought it was this guy crouched on one knee high fiving himself.


4e5c5a  No.16652465

>>16649142

its two togs putting their snout together

its a human skin mask


90b622  No.16652592

File: 494a218e44bd158⋯.png (780.2 KB, 800x571, 800:571, Two_Bears.png)

>>16649142

the common interpretation that this is two bears high fiving was referenced in the second DLC Honest Hearts. They had a character there named "Two Bears High Fiving". Oddly they made him only view-able if you had the wild wasteland trait.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Two-Bears-High-Fiving


a86a92  No.16652604

File: 6931ee4e9de3410⋯.jpg (36.03 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, steamuserimages-a.akamaihd….jpg)

>>16649142

Either two ninjas doing a role or it's the top of the Lucky 38.


a86a92  No.16652609

>>16652604

>doing a role roll

Man I'm retarded.


67bed0  No.16652646

File: 93bf3d93f218774⋯.jpg (295.84 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, SxS.jpg)

>>16632170

I just use the one from PL.


fa7acf  No.16653038

File: 3edca8e3d9eff43⋯.jpg (624.99 KB, 1920x2767, 1920:2767, df5428388fc2b18b3e6181140b….jpg)

>>16626098

>>16626097

Wasn't it Joshua Graham? Graham is based off his personal character during their interplay fallout dnd campaign thing. I remember it being one of the main reasons why he wanted to add him into honest hearts.


71c53d  No.16653544

>>16625940

If you're going hardcore, get the dlc that comes with the canteen.


46933b  No.16653579

>>16653038

Graham and Ulysses were both supposed to be in the base game, but they got cut.


1f2f57  No.16662887

File: 80e05c8740ad58d⋯.webm (2.76 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, big iron but every other ….webm)


16d272  No.16662933

>>16625940

There is literally no reason on helping the legion other than roleplaying and maybe getting some healing powder once in a while.


41b73c  No.16662956

>>16628209

You can get the implant at level 2 easily and maybe level 1 if you try hard enough. All you have to do is head to the atomic wrangler immediately and avoid getting settlement XP. If you do it right the only XP you should get is from Goodsprings, the Freeside gate, and the clinic, along with whatever achievements you pick up from gambling. I'm not sure if those give XP.


1f2f57  No.16664721

File: c13bce35b17a972⋯.png (285.85 KB, 1276x408, 319:102, sawyer.png)

What did he mean by this


862b75  No.16664735

>>16664721

Just let me fuck Neeshka you fucking retarded tattooed hipster bike faggot REEEEE.

Also NWN2 was mechanically inferior to NWN 1 So many bad choices made.


076dd0  No.16664751

>>16664735

IIRC there is a mod for romancing Neeshka

good luck finding it


b55436  No.16664774

>>16664735

You can't even romance her? Glad I never finished that game.


862b75  No.16664796

>>16664751

Bad voice actor.

>>16664774

Worth a playthrough MoTB is good and they give you a cute skinhead waifu.


2484ea  No.16664802

>>16664735

>Also NWN2 was mechanically inferior to NWN 1

Elaborate.

>>16664774

What stopped you?


ec5f43  No.16664804

>>16650155

Yellow sky remover, foliage mod, and the one to add followers. It doesn’t work without them, either. Don’t give me that shit.


862b75  No.16664807

>>16664802

>Elaborate

Gutted all of the spells and perks from NWN1 removed a fuck ton of content and weapons and items. Messed up several prestige classes like PM and RDD (character transformation doe s not show) also they made it run poorly. Removal of familiars was stupid too.

They gave NWN 2 this weird system where even on single player it treats the game as being online with loads of lag. You can walk somewhere and then rubber band back 30 seconds later. That is how they programmed the game.


5f7ca9  No.16664811

>>16664807

What a load of shit

Nobody who actually played the game would believe this, did you get it off some youtube video? Fuck off cuckchan


b55436  No.16664813

>>16664802

>What stopped you?

I dunno, this was years ago. I remember starting from the beginning multiple times but always getting bored or distracted before finishing the game.


862b75  No.16664830

File: 2c918abf8ae5cd0⋯.webm (12.19 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Damage Shields.webm)

>>16664811

What?

I could make a video showing the differences… But would anyone watch it?


2484ea  No.16664832

File: c982f27c22d44d3⋯.jpg (417.82 KB, 1536x2048, 3:4, D7lJBtNVUAER_Oi.jpg)

>>16664807

>Gutted all of the spells and perks from NWN1

Like what? I played both and I don't remember any feats or spells missing, if anything 2 had more of those and more prestige classes.

>Messed up several prestige classes like PM and RDD (character transformation doe s not show)

Absolutely correct and I didn't like that.

>Removal of familiars

Familiars exist.

>they made it run poorly

>You can walk somewhere and then rubber band back 30 seconds later

Also correct.

Yes, it did miss some minor details (and couldn't even group feats of the same type into one buttom like in NWN1, gg Obsidian) but it was overall a significant improvement over the first game in every way.

>>16664813

I don't know where you stopped but the game picks up after you're done getting into Blacklake.

Protip: pick an interactive class with spells and breeze through the majority of the game.

But if you just can't stomach it, then don't bother.

It's not some hidden gem that you need an IQ of 150 or more to appreciate, but it is a simple, fun game with a lot of customisation and fun companions.


862b75  No.16664847

File: 78f0b5c888a7730⋯.webm (9.23 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, IGMS.webm)

>>16664832

>significant improvement over the first game in every way.

But you just mentioned parts that weren't improvements (also your wizard can't do what the one in the webm just did).

It had pretty graphics I guess. But the most important thing the character building was inferior, one thing NWN 1 did well was stopping BAB progression at lvl 20 and letting people just pick whatever they wanted after.

You can make some amazing and varied builds on NWN1 and they are all viable like a PAL/Sorc/RDD NWN 2 is just "make cleric durr".


2484ea  No.16664895

File: d25ab043ec81312⋯.mp4 (1.18 MB, 720x720, 1:1, zmn19JsG3QvjXwLV.mp4)

>>16664847

Well, yes, the game was made by Obsidian so it took a few steps back in the performance department.

Not that that is an excuse.

Personally, I really liked having a proper party in NWN2 and being able to mix and match different characters and builds.

You can't do that in 1.

And it's a bit unfair to say that all you can make in 2 are pure classes when the game lets you combine 4 just like in 1.

Most fights in 1 were pretty bad and boiled down to you mowing down hordes of melee enemies with an occasional spike in difficulty when fighting bosses.

At least 2 tried to make the encounters more varied and interesting and I would argue that it has better level design as well.

But the one thing that I do miss from 1 which they dropped in 2 (because Obsidian) were the melee fighting animations.

In 1 you could actually see the characters have an actual duel but in 2 they just swing at each other, occasionally ducking to evade the blow which wasn't very impressive.

I like both games, I just prefer 2 more and I guess you feel the same about 1.


ea7f6c  No.16664902

>>16664832

>>16664895

I’d be pretty tempted to buy one of these if I had the dosh


9360a9  No.16664907

>no mods

What about the patch that lets you use more than 4gb of ram?

And the patch that joins up the new vegas areas in to one area like originally intended?


2484ea  No.16664908

>>16664902

I decided to get a job and stop being a neet solely to buy one.


7c8339  No.16664913

>>16645475

One of those shitty ones on ebay, I got it as a gift because the shitty laptop my mum had been letting me use was fucking terrible so she got me this hunk of junk. Better than that travesty of a laptop, but still garbage. Plus with a restrictive parent and no real freedom of my own yet I can't just build myself one.

it's a literal core 2 duo E8400 with intergrated graphics, you haven't played on a potato till you've played on mine, best thing about this is the 8gb of ram and 1tb hard drive.


862b75  No.16664916

>>16664895

You can only have 3 classes on NWN 1 I do agree having a party is cool. You should play Swordflight to see how good the NWN1 combat can be.

What is with these dolls? Do you "hot glue" them or something?


9360a9  No.16664919

>>16664913

My first computer was 66MHz.


a0b0e0  No.16664925

>>16664832

NWN2 has an ivory tower class design

NWN1 does not

NWN1 also allows you to take more than 10 levels into most prestige classes, the two exceptions being the harper scout and purple dragon knight

though NWN2 does let you have 4 classes instead of 3, NWN1 lets you have 40 total levels instead of 30, which allows for more creative room than having a 4th class after accounting for the ivory tower class design of 3.5E

>>16664847

NWN1 actually doesn't have that amazingly many good builds if you're playing on an unmodded server

neversummer 4, for example, has fucking tons of very viable builds, and they don't use any third-party files(such as CEP) and made changes to the classes in other ways

hell, the just their minmaxed builds with 40 paladin levels, which get pure class bonuses there, are str paladin, dex paladin, str+dex paladin, planar turning paladin, and PvE(127) taunting paladin, and then most of THOSE builds have multiple slight variations available

too bad the server is usually a ghost town like most of the other non-beamdog servers


2484ea  No.16664943

File: 3a717ff872bd74d⋯.jpg (269.63 KB, 1366x2048, 683:1024, D-WjvXOVUAEjAIS.jpg orig.jpg)

>>16664916

>Swordflight

I'll look into it, thanks.

>hot glue

Absolutely not.

These are far too refined and expensive for something like that.

>>16664925

>NWN2 has an ivory tower class design

What do you mean?


a0b0e0  No.16664959

>>16664943

if you get 20 warlock levels and you want to be more of a warlock, you get 10 hellfire warlock levels

thats all I can think of though; maybe you can google ivory tower class design to get a better idea of it, maybe include 3.5e in the search terms


ec5f43  No.16664963

>>16664907

>I don't care if you evade

Oh? Do tell. I'm curious about that.


7c8339  No.16664988

>>16664919

I was mainly talking about what one would call potato in the modern day, instead of that old ass shit. Fair enough though


29824a  No.16664991

>>16664959

It's a stupid concept. Make the rules and let the players figure shit out on their own. Taking away the joy of discovery leads to the kind of game design where you install > boot > start a game you've never played before and you're greeted with "Use W to move forward, use A to move left, use D to move right, and use S to move backwards" "Great, now press Space Bar to jump". I don't want a prompt to tell me I can blow up the explosive barrels, I don't want a warning that says that killing this character is a bad idea. Hell, NV has a really good way of handling this concept right: "if you go north you'll find critters that just get mad when you shoot at them". And if you do go north you get your asshole ravaged. The immersion would be ruined if getting close to Cazadors and have the game pause to tell you that you're about to enter a high level area and that you should turn back. Another good example of this concept being done right is Morrowind: you can kill whoever the fuck you want, but if you kill someone important you'll get the prophecy warning AFTER you fucked up. Skyrim on the other hand just makes the important NPCs immortal.

Also, Favored Soul of Talos 10 > Stormlord 10 > Blackguard 10.


09c5c8  No.16665011

get int to 8, get the cybernetics to increase it to 9, get old world blues big brained to push it to 10.

charisma is trash.


0bf5d0  No.16665717

>>16664721

>he doesn't like harems

>literally the most basic measure of a man's success and a final exclamation point to all his achievements

What a fag


c0456e  No.16665758

>>16665717

To be fair, I can understand not liking harem anime because it's the same shit every time.

Something tells me he sure as hell wasn't talking about that.


29824a  No.16665787

>>16665758

Amagami SS was pretty good. Omnibus is the only decent harem format.


2484ea  No.16665796

>>16665717

>>16665758

His criticism is honestly valid.

I've never seen romance done well in a game - it's all very basic dick sucking at best.

NWN1's Aribeth is decent, if only because it's more subtle and builds up over time instead of just happening.


29824a  No.16665840

>>16665796

PS:T has the romance aspect done well. Both Annah and Fall-from-Grace had their romance done a way that wasn't anywhere close to the dumb Bioware style. The style where you'd get a few romance talks and then some dumb PG-13 sex scene or a fade to black. I'm struggling to think of other games where the romance is also done in a respectful manner. Saya no Uta is most definitely a love story, but there's very little romance. Maybe White Album 2, but translation never ever 俺は改善しています. Aside from those, I'm having a hard time thinking of romances that aren't talk a few times > go on a date > fuck > together for life.


a2dbd3  No.16665898

>>16635217

dat point lookout though

point lookout is so good it redeems 3 shittiness


a2dbd3  No.16665907

>>16632170

doesnt millenia have both a over under and side by side?


3268a2  No.16665946

>>16665898

>Shivering Isles

>Point Lookout

>Dragonborn, sort of

Why the fuck doesn't Bethesda just make their games with the same mindset they used to bring to their expansions? They've reached a level of fame and success where people will buy their shit no matter what, why do they still feel the need to make the core games' story and settings bland as fuck?


a0b0e0  No.16665958

>>16665717

>t. atheist


a2dbd3  No.16665963

>>16665946

operation anchorage and the pitt are shit

broken steel is slightly better by virtue of retconning fallout3 being retarded

mothership zeta looks beautiful but its fucking shit gameplay wise

point lookout however, is beautiful, brings me memories of skipping school wandering around the local state fair during the fall, has the quirky story of crazed remnant survivors and post war politics that the original fallout games had


d1fdf6  No.16665981

File: 4d95f36a48bd99e⋯.jpg (57.17 KB, 720x480, 3:2, 4d95f36a48bd99ef8a232a0802….jpg)

I really wanted to try A Tale of Two Wastelands but how does modding work with that?

I don't want to get it if I'm not going to be able to mod it.


3268a2  No.16665995

>>16665981

I think you just need to install TTW over a clean install of both games, and then you can use whatever NV mods you want. I don't think FO3 mods are supported yet.


d5abbc  No.16665998

>>16645471

Are these real posts or shill posts from some Bethesda marketing team?


b9cdc0  No.16666011

>>16665963

Point Lookout was retarded. The Pitt was actually interesting and provided a more challenging moral dilemma than the main quest. The setting is the epitome of what 3 did right (urban, dark, grimy ruins filled with terrifying mutants). A lot of it is still mediocre, but the potential is still there. If it were done right, it could have been the perfect bridge from the West Coast Brotherhood and the East Coast Brotherhood. Point Lookout is proto-76.


ec5f43  No.16666447

>install game

>install all the fixes

>crashes constantly

>have to log the fuck out every time because it crashes so hard I can't even get to my desktop

>worked perfectly 5 years ago

What the fuck, Bethesda.


161d68  No.16666642

>>16666447

one of your fixes conflixes so your fuckdixes


ff15f7  No.16666866

>>16625972

cazadors are basically the final boss of the entire game


708f5b  No.16666872

>>16666866

Cazadores eventually get easier, particularly after Old World Blues, which may as well be the Anti-Cazadore DLC.

Deathclaws on the other hand seem to never get easier.


25f1e5  No.16667034

>>16666872

Aim for the legs, clip the wings.


9db29d  No.16667092

I've been working on finishing the DLC lately, and goddamn was Lonesome Road some masturbatory, pretentious, superficial dogshit, story and writing wise. I liked the level design and aesthetics, the actual gameplay part of it was fine (except for the "nukes", those were retarded, why not just make them regular cruise missiles?), but damn, every time that turbo-faggot Ulysses opened his mouth I cringed, not to mention the whole concept of basically over-riding the player's own imagination of their character's origins is a bullshit decision on the developer's part. The PC being a courier is just a narrative device to have an excuse for the player to have a link to the platinum chip so that Benny can blow you away, don't start inventing a backstory to force on the player, especially the kind of backstory Lonesome Road foists on you.

Anyway, the only DLC I have left is Dead Money, and the only DLC I actually think is good all-round so far was Honest Hearts.


9db29d  No.16667093

>except for the "nukes", those were retarded, why not just make them regular cruise missiles

Just to be clear, I'm referring to the warheads lying around the Divide that you detonate with the laser.


161d68  No.16667117

>>16666866

that is funny, I always take out Cazadors super early and super easy as soon as you get Rayslayer those fuckers go down easy. You just can't walk into a bunch of them and hope to live.


25f1e5  No.16667240

>>16667092

The amount of backstory written for the MC is very small. If I recall, you could easily brush off Ulyssess by saying constantly "you've got the wrong guy". You can easily pick and choose what you accept as canonical in the game. I do agree that Ulyssess is a pretentious crazy. I heard an interesting theory that his manner of speech is a holdover from his tribal language.


1f2f57  No.16667481

File: c7c9dde999bb58f⋯.jpg (729.95 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, this is me giving a fuck.jpg)

>>16666866

>>16666872

>>16667117

Since cazadores have no DT, you can easily tear through them with HP ammo. It's the same with tunnelers. Deathclaws are the real shit

>>16667092

>not playing the DLC in release order

It's neat when you see how they reference each other anon


ce7a45  No.16667591

>>16627695

>played on easiest vanilla difficulty

casual


70a187  No.16667615

File: 321d2a5ae28bcf3⋯.jpg (104.33 KB, 892x703, 892:703, 1471432607726.jpg)

>>16627695

>Ignore Endurance


94523c  No.16667624

>>16627695

>Except for in a few cases, your SPECIAL scores don't matter

>Perception Useless

>The game says it affects run speed, but this was never implemented and is not true

>Seeing as low luck doesn't give you critical failures, this stat is also useless

>Science just as useful as lockpick

>Ignore Sneak

2/10: Laid on the retard a little too thick, and spent way too much effort on it


c28e23  No.16667630

>>16625940

That its a shitty game that you shouldn't waste your time with and that Fallout 3 was far superior thanks to being made by a better team than shitty Obsidian.


b55436  No.16667634

File: 3b77850f2af3f68⋯.jpeg (57.88 KB, 500x500, 1:1, b9af71b5826496e178999f799….jpeg)

>>16667624

But perception is useless and agility doesn't affect run speed.


29dd6b  No.16667666

>>16667634

>agility doesn't affect run speed

Yes it does, it actually LOWERS run speed you newfaggot. That's why it's such a prime dump stat.

>perception is useless

This is probably what you're thinking of; it's supposed to let you see enemies on the radar from further away etc but it doesn't. There are also no useful PER perks in the game. Leave it at 1, the game is more fun like that.


b55436  No.16667682

File: ccdbf8ee6f2ecda⋯.jpeg (36.88 KB, 727x480, 727:480, ccdbf8ee6f2ecda65c993ee86….jpeg)

>>16667666

>it actually LOWERS run speed

Wasted trips.


f1f6db  No.16667703

>>16627695

Holy shit good b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>strength

only increase to high numbers if you will use melee/unarmed, otherwise 5,6, or 7 is a good strength to have

>Perception

actually useless, wont be able to spot enemies far away and there's maybe 5 skill checks for this, keep it at a low number like 1

>Endurance

HP is important, put at 9 so you can get all the implants and increase all SPECIAL by +1 if you get the caps for it

>Charisma

useless unless you're playing hardcore WITH companions, otherwise put at 1

>Intelligence

good skill to have, makes maxing out skills easier with the extra skill points you get every level, has many speech checks and will help you survive on higher difficulties, start this with either a 9 or 10

>Agility

only useful if you're using ranged weapons as it increases reload speed or enjoy spamming the FUCK out of VATS, this ones up to you

>Luck

do you enjoy getting critical hits, having a greater chance at finding better loot, and want to win at the casinos without savescumming, this is the stat for you, 9 or 10


914434  No.16667743

>>16665998

>GameFAQs

I have no doubt they are real. People get spiteful when they think they should enjoy a game but can't. I guarentee most of these guys got 5-10 hours in after launch and stopped enjoying it for one reason or another, then for the next week or three saw half their Steam friends playing New Vegas every time they log in. "Why don't I enjoy the game?" they think. "Bethesda didn't make the game, this is Obsidian's fault."


43bb50  No.16668089

File: 7d363290b7bab1f⋯.jpg (34.32 KB, 338x305, 338:305, 8317089125817.jpg)

>>16625940

>About to play New Vegas for the first time.

Who are you trying to kid?


ec5f43  No.16672237

>>16666642

>remove new vegas stutter preventer

>now it only crashes every two hours

I can live with this. Nice irony, too.


56217f  No.16678264

Always dismis your companions before going into casinos. The casinos will take your weapons and you wont get back the ones your companions were holding. I lost the pulse gun, all american, a fully repaired riot shotgun, and many more valuable weapons because I had no idea this shit was in the game.


161d68  No.16686149

>>16625940

Op, pretending to be a virgin when he's been fucking 5 dollar whores for years.


5acb7b  No.16697419

>>16626065

>jswayer

its a shitty spamfest


e46948  No.16699295

Play without mods first, that way you can actually appreciate the mods. If you play for the first time with mods how the fuck will you know what is and isn't a part of the game.


8734c1  No.16699345

HEY FAGGOTS

Does anyone have the spreadsheet to see if I roll a new build?

Thank you


3f946b  No.16699364

>>16699295

By using your brain. A fair amount of mods carry an obviousness that they arent part of the base game. Also, the person installing the mods should be paying attention to what they're installing.


55250b  No.16700297

File: cc15768670d5671⋯.png (144.89 KB, 302x279, 302:279, infuriating_picture.PNG)

Who else disables fast travel? Personally, I like distances across the Mojave to actually feel like they have weight and it sort of adds back random encounters because there is an opportunity to get random events, like having a hit squad sent after you.


6a9cc7  No.16700344

File: ae9db7ac185988b⋯.gif (1.19 MB, 320x180, 16:9, WATCH_Shotgun_Execution_Be….gif)


ec478d  No.16700353

File: 762603d22ed86b6⋯.jpg (57.17 KB, 460x612, 115:153, k in one picture.jpg)

>>16627695

>Ignore. Use repair kits for weapons, ammo is too plentiful to justify reloading your own.

What if I want to roleplay as post-SHTF /k/ombatant?


080819  No.16700507

File: e3080fe324e256c⋯.jpg (147.19 KB, 808x1024, 101:128, 2a02af23dfb8d7e8c73ca0dbc2….jpg)

File: 5a6eaae8ab3213d⋯.jpg (243.49 KB, 750x728, 375:364, 5a6eaae8ab3213d1f66344fb19….jpg)

File: 7d19701be70d7e9⋯.jpg (50 KB, 662x664, 331:332, 06fa86e7db58ca93f160dbdb52….jpg)

>>16627695

>HP does not matter as mentioned above, ignore this.

wew


f3b266  No.16700534

File: 0354892d6b5de38⋯.jpg (44.46 KB, 490x365, 98:73, 0354892d6b5de3833a4eea3011….jpg)

>>16627695

>Ignore. Use repair kits for weapons, ammo is too plentiful to justify reloading your own.

I dunno. Late game perks that let you use similar items to repair things mean that you can make insane profits off repairing that fancy revolver you got with cheap garbage.

Same for armor.

Bonus points for not having to rely on the rather pricey repair kits that are far better saved for expensive weapons that aren't easily repaired but are worth a fair bit. Miniguns especially, in the early game, since they're rather common for some reason despite their value.

Also, lockpick is always better than science. While plenty of doors have a computer, most safes and such do not. If you're going to pick just one, never go with science, as that'll mean far less loot.


f3b266  No.16700541

File: 4ea6b1fe35640b8⋯.png (1021.01 KB, 1024x1668, 256:417, da72e3213dcc511574e2a4328c….png)

>>16626572

This is funnily enough why I never really cared about Benny.

Sure, he shot me in the head. But, most people I came across tried to do that. I never really took it personally. It certainly wasn't enough for me to actively hunt him down or anything.


f3b266  No.16700544

File: 472d478415ed95a⋯.jpg (150.87 KB, 664x799, 664:799, 0cde99bcaf9215347ec1e212e5….jpg)

>>16627113

Legionfags were always cancerous retards. I imagine they grew up.

That, or finally got kicked out at some point.

If you're going to join an "evil" faction, the Enclave is far better.


f3b266  No.16700552

File: 1bbc4ea71732b00⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 153.06 KB, 968x1184, 121:148, 36e7fe5f12e8ef975265fdadd5….jpg)

>>16627865

Most standard soldiers carry at least 50lbs, as a flat default. And that's a fairly light load. With the stuff they need to actually go out in the middle of nowhere on long deployments, you're looking closer to 100lbs.

Also, keep in mind, getting tired from carrying 100lbs is not the same as being literally unable to move more than a few inches at a time like some kind of frail-boned asthmatic.


d2a3fa  No.16700559

>>16700541

>Guy attempts to murder you in cold blood

>Don't care even a little bit

I don't want to evoke a cliché, but that is some fucking beta male shit anon,


f3b266  No.16700560

File: 027448a77f30416⋯.jpg (138.1 KB, 1024x578, 512:289, sergeant_rl_3_wallpaper_by….jpg)

>>16700559

The majority of people I came across in the game tried to kill me in cold blood.

Granted, most of those got killed by me. But, it's hardly a special thing. I might shoot him if he were in front of me, but, it's hardly worth seeking out one of the many people who try to fuck you over.

If I wasted my time worrying about every single person who tries to shoot me, I'd have hardly any time to amass my collection of random guns and knickknacks for my homes.


66a037  No.16700565

>>16626572

Try it out. Genocide runs are the best runs.


0ac1a6  No.16700579

>>16700552

50lbs is the maximum load soldiers are actually supposed to carry to be combat-effective, there's been probably a dozen studies and they always come back to that number. They carry 100+lbs now because of stupidity and institutional intertia and the second there's a real war with real artillery and real casualties that load is going to disappear.


f3b266  No.16700586

>>16700579

Possibly, but, I rather doubt it. The problem is, you can't provide your soldiers with good protection and equipment off of less than 50. Not unless we get some serious advancements in ballistic protection in the next few years.

Personally, I'd suffer the extra weight for a ballistic vest with proper plates. Better to be slow and tired, than to have a rifle round in your gut.

Helmets are hit-or-miss, admittedly. Good for falling debris but apparently they don't actually do much for the typical bullet you'd have heading your way. I think those are a decent lightening potential.

Mind you that this still leaves full rucks or daypacks aside. You're not going to be able to carry food and shelter materials without going well over that limit.

Frankly, if you want your troops to be armored and have radios, you're pretty much fucked when it comes to weight. Best we can do is get some kind of packmule system for the rucks, at least, and otherwise try best we can to limit everything else to around 60lbs. Even that'll probably require a fair bit of cutting out.


0ac1a6  No.16700611

>>16700586

http://thedonovan.com/archives/modernwarriorload/ModernWarriorsCombatLoadReport.pdf

Here's one from Afghanistan in 2003. It was done on the 82nd Airborne, so they're not nobodies. Don't miss Annex D.

>Better to be slow and tired, than to have a rifle round in your gut.

The crux of the thing is that you don't get that choice. Slower movement = deader than in a lot of situations.


f3b266  No.16700717

>>16700611

>Slower movement = deader than in a lot of situations.

Depends on what your doing, and what your situation is. But, either way, not dying to a bullet to the chest seems to me to be a significant improvement. A vest seems more than worth its weight. Maybe not one of the larger ones, with things like groinplates, shoulders, necks, and that type of deal. But, definitely the basic chest covering units.


0ac1a6  No.16700768

>>16700717

A basic chest and back Interceptor setup is about 20lbs, it's not too bad. There's better and lighter but it starts to get really expensive. An M4 is 6-8lbs depending how much shit you hang on it, 180 rounds in magazines is 8lbs, a pack is 3lbs, helmet's 3lbs, now you have 10 pounds for food, water, radios, goggles, grenades, weather gear, batteries, antitank shit, spare belts for the LMG, etc. A Javelin is 50lbs, a mortar's 70lbs.

Getting off topic, I'm just saying that mod's weight limit isn't too unrealistic.


a472ba  No.16701110

>>16700768

>Getting off topic, I'm just saying that mod's weight limit isn't too unrealistic.

Yes, though you have to take into account that the engagements in this game aren't realistic. It's a shooter where you come across large groups of enemies that often require a lot of ammunition to kill. Add to that medical supplies (because in these conditions you're bound to get wounded) and some space for valuable loot (because you need the money to resupply after using all of it up), and you're quickly overencumbered even without autistic hoarding. Also the crafting system in the game forces you to hoard trash, for example if you want to reload your ammo instead of buying it.


0de270  No.16701180

File: 0a85b2295433dee⋯.jpg (128.53 KB, 751x540, 751:540, 0_1.jpg)

>>16664811

I played NWN1 and NWN2 and he's right.

>>16664847

I literally would've accepted NWN1 with just a 3.5 ruleset overhaul and bugfixes, and maybe some small additions based on popular modules and hacks. Trying to reinvent the wheel messed up so many things it was disappointing.

Now look at my FO4 character


1f2f57  No.16701207

File: 01b755b759c6b1d⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 7.9 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Nanakochan.webm)

>>16701180

Your character is shit and so is that video game


0de270  No.16701225

>>16701207

that uncanny valley kinda creeps me out


c9830c  No.16701239

>>16701225

All animu ayyliums are uncanny.


ed6e1d  No.16701324

>>16625940

If you ever thought it was taking itself seriously, you will have this belief destroyed when they steal your brain and replace it with a mechanical version that works well enough, and you have to earn your brain back

Oh and more jacking off of the NCR, because writing any sort of actual alternative made Chris hiss.

Beyond that and bug fixes, once you have finished it and all DLCs, just remember one thing. Bethesda was super butthurt about this, screwed him and Obsidian over, and now to this day, videogames will never be made good again thanks to hypercorporate kikes ruining everything. On purpose


ed6e1d  No.16701337

>>16626151

>>The Legion go around raping everything/each other with dicks and machetes in a world where guns exist to badly roleplay as Romans

You forgot the massive horde of stealthboys written in backwards to try justifying this, all because someone didn't want any actual alternative to the NCR that was substantially different in anyway


ed6e1d  No.16701342

>>16626194

>That's what I meant. They're back at it, the way they're supposed to be

>>16626167

Canonically, an enormous amount of them went to the NCR and helped them out, with only the most extreme BoS members refusing to join them


ed6e1d  No.16701363

>>16626972

The NCR is only occasionaly any better


ed6e1d  No.16701482

>>16649204

>Worst part is that it USED to work

Windows is shit now, find an older OS


ed6e1d  No.16701484

>>16664721

he isnt wrong


a472ba  No.16701766

>>16701180

There was so much potential for improvement in NWN1 but these fucking mongrels just had to release a half-assed "enhanced edition" just to milk cash from the people who still play this.


0ed70a  No.16701809

>>16701225

So it fells just like the unmodded version?


55250b  No.16702574

File: 7791b6b9d541503⋯.png (98.84 KB, 683x148, 683:148, fallout_new-vegas_cass_cuc….PNG)

Which companions does /v/ usually go with? I go with ED-E and Boone because their perks synergize incredibly well and Boone is OP and has the best story. I'm inclined to go with Cass because she has an interesting perk and a nice ass, but she's just not as powerful as the the superior companion.

Fun fact: If you side with the NCR and complete her quest, Cass will literally cuck you in the end credits.


b55436  No.16702612

>>16702574

>I go with ED-E and Boone

Same, mainly since the other companions are all shit. I always kill Cass for the quest.


1065c1  No.16702652

So does anyone here enjoy the daughters of Aries mod as I do, it was honestly one of the first waifu mods I ever installed in a game if you can believe that.


1065c1  No.16702758

>>16632141

I almost don't install weapon mods, just because a lot of them just simply don't add anything to the game.


63b038  No.16702774

>>16702612

Turn Cass over to Cutting, give Veronica to the White Gloves.


2667a5  No.16703581

File: faf2551e0f53058⋯.png (1.25 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Nigger with a twig.png)

>>16702574

and only NCR ending depicts courier as a literal nigger overriding your choice of race.


f35114  No.16703590

I'm still surprised that nobody's modden assaultrons into New Vegas.


3750b0  No.16703676

File: 89f874c4d1f729c⋯.jpg (506.17 KB, 566x800, 283:400, 5ee362b998c856ccc3479eb2af….jpg)

>>16702574

Cass for the ass. Boone though is better generally. Raul and Rex are the only other ones I end up cycling in. I always kept ED-E more for the floating radio.

>>16703590

Thought it was the other way. Teams working on rebuilding NV into 4.


2667a5  No.16703679

>>16703676

>rebuilding NV into 4.

>making a demake of a game because muh gwaaapheeecs

Could've ported it to Fallout 2 Engine instead.


5fcf1b  No.16703695

File: 5a6b7d3be338d0f⋯.jpg (70.74 KB, 526x567, 526:567, 5a6b7d3be338d0fb75969c3566….jpg)

>>16703679

From my vague memories the dudes doing the mod are keeping the core mechanics of NV and just rebuilding for graphics and guns mechanics in fo4. Dont quote me though/


f35114  No.16703698

>>16703676

I don't like how 4 removes stats and generally like New Vegas more. Also the DLC for NV is fun so I wouldn't want to give that up.


3750b0  No.16703727

File: 086788b12730819⋯.jpg (350.19 KB, 551x1000, 551:1000, f315937592ae399bc2c118b8f1….jpg)

>>16703695

Just learned now that there has been more then one. Namely the guys behind the video that blew up fell apart.

>>16703698

That was half the point of the previously mentioned project that shuttered. Actually recreating the gameplay. Which relies on skills, quests, dialogue, to be an RPG.

New project talks graphics, shooter. But maintains that skills are coming back. And that maybe the DLC will be recreated after the main mod is done. https://archive.fo/XcPnc


98268e  No.16703740

File: 6d5f9382e0362bd⋯.png (619.64 KB, 1110x845, 222:169, ranks.png)

Reminder.


28db4c  No.16703762

File: 5e1031eafedf3e3⋯.jpg (181.68 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 5e1031eafedf3e3ed600d9280a….jpg)

>>16703740

>FO76 anywhere above the lowest tier


8f65e4  No.16703768

>>16702574

ED-E and either Gannon or Raul. Pick up Cass to get her ASHED.COM, and pick up Veronica to do her quest to get the BoS to stop being faggots, then tell her to fuck off and never come back. I like Lilly, but she's so fucking fat she clogs every doorway and small tunnel.

>>16703740

New Vegas is better than Fallout 1 and 2

Shelter is better than any of the other Bethesda made games

BoS is actually so bad it deserves it's own tier


d2a3fa  No.16703782

>>16703740

1, 2, and NV I all agree with. Putting Tactics on par with NV is wrong, knock that down a peg. BOS, FO Shelter, and 76 are all objectively worse games than 3 and 4, despite how shit those two are. Putting them below two barely playable messes and a mobile game is stupid, because at least you can play them — they're just boring and poorly made.


1a0c01  No.16703784

>>16627719

His vision was fucking shit, creativity needs limits otherwise you get a George Lucas/Hideo Kojima situation.


a0b0e0  No.16703789

File: 07c6d66784d81ab⋯.png (28.66 KB, 500x501, 500:501, 1433061560931.png)

>>16703740

>76 not below shit tier


763fa8  No.16703813

>>16703782

I think we all would be better off pretending that BOS doesn't exist at all..


d2a3fa  No.16703820

>>16703813

I can get on board with that.


25f1e5  No.16704127

>>16703727

ProjectF4_NV is still active and still going unless there's been some behind the scenes drama.


17c4e4  No.16704499

>>16701180

All FO4 characters look the same unless you mod the shit out of it. Is there somewhere to get a decent loli mod for FO4? ATF is down and the major mod sites all ban that shit so I can't even tell if one exists.


3268a2  No.16705566

>>16701225

That's not uncanny valley, it's not close enough to a real person's appearance.


b55436  No.16705591

>>16704499

Why the fuck would you want to play FO4?


310365  No.16706506

>>16704499

check loverslab for all degenerate mods.

I think they made Fo4 super hard to mod in this respect though given what happened with Skyrim.


343767  No.16707468

>>16706506

LL does not allow loli. I guess I should just fuck with bodyslide and see if I can get a flat chest that doesn't look deformed. That plus the anime mod and setscale should get me most of what I want.


55250b  No.16718921

File: c47118115d24436⋯.png (110.05 KB, 500x387, 500:387, degenerates-like-you-belon….png)




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