fccd18 No.16621947
Since 2007 people have developed a bad habit of shitting all over older franchises. Unless it's Mario, Zelda or some other oddity, you are pretty much guaranteed bad reviews for any franchise older than 2007=
This is because of a literally unholy alliance of Xbots, Sony Ponies, companies that pay shills, CoD fanboys and similar gamers who want to berate and demean every franchise that came before CoD 4: MW.
In fact, most reviewers of today have their roots in the mid-late 2000s when the console wars were at their peak and people were bullied into supporting Xbox 360 or PS3 over the Wii. The mildest form of abuse was ridicule, and the more harsher forms included verbal abuse, emotional abuse and social isolation.
There is literally a social apartheid against classic gamers, niche gamers, Nintendo fans, SEGA fans so much so that Jim Sterling deliberately gave BOTW a low score to bring it down from 98 on metacritic, all the while calling Nintendo a shit distributor and fuckhead toymaker. Metacritic's boss (a slave of the Xbot/Pony site called ShitSpot) soon praised Jim Sterling for his abuse.
While the ultimate goal of most may only be to show the superiority of shooters, realistic racers etc., deliberately damaging the review scores of other franchises will cause their eventual death. In fact many franchises HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED by these ponies. And many of them want to see all who threaten their dominance destroyed.
THE REVIEW MAFIA MUST BE STOPPED AT ANY COST FOR THE SAKE OF OUR BELOVED FRANCHISES!
b00e06 No.16621994
>>16621947
Geoff Keighley is a complete asshole and feeds this sort of culture. I remember that interview when he purposely shat all over Angry Joe (who is against these people)
b4f4c0 No.16622009
Why do soyniggers do that hand-on-chin gesture? Do they think they're being profound, or is there some sort of biological imperative that just makes your hand gravitate toward your face once your t-count hits a certain low point?
312ad5 No.16622035
Think it's mostly about wrestling away the control Japan had on the industry until the 7th gen.
74819c No.16622056
>>16622035
No it's not really because Sony, the favorite of these wretches, is a Japanese company. It's just diehard fanboyism, hatred and malice.
It actually started in 2006, not 2007, when GameSpot gave Twilight Princess an 8.8 in an era where anything less than a 9.5 for Zelda was considered shocking
000000 No.16622109
>>16621947
>reddit spacing
>giving any credit at all what soyboy corporate shills say
Every single game made since 2007 is shit. Once you understand this truth, those soyboy corporate shills lose all their meaning.
fadabc No.16622139
>>16622109
>Every single game made since 2007 is shit
lol. Not true. Aim and shoot games are shit though
c2949f No.16622145
5055c0 No.16622194
Fuck war with Iran, let's go to war with these Xbox fanboys
8c4d58 No.16622227
>>16622109
go away nigger.
8765f5 No.16622235
Feels like a copypasta thread from a Nintendrone
3d8f6a No.16622247
>>16622227
Looks like he's still at it.
342239 No.16622250
It's cool to unfairly criticize older franchises nowadays. It may be "wrong" but it's so much fun haha. Suck for you Nintendrones your company will die the sad and pathetic death that it deserves to die. We told you to go third party… but NOOO!! You want to fight to the end. So we'll make sure we end you
d34e52 No.16622260
>>16622247
>Luciano is the niggerpill kike also, in addition to being the "KILL ALL JOURNOS NOW" fag
Wew.
23d71f No.16622274
>>16622056
>8.8
Thirteen years this fall.
762809 No.16622288
>>16622035
If that was true they'd have been supporting PC gaming since Japan has never had more than a light foothold there.
ed63a6 No.16622303
>>16622238
huehuelian here, i can confirm that "cleyton sousa da silva" is such a common name here that you can probably find someone with that name in each city of this nation
cb34e2 No.16622325
>>16622288
PC is to open. They want video games to become walled gardens as a service. Look out for Stadia exclusive reviews.
cb34e2 No.16622365
>>16622323
>>16622338
>>16622348
I'm trying real hard not to bring that meme up. It's hard not to when every hype cycle reviewer follows the exact same formula. These publications are closing almost every day now.
This is probably a bot. Still hits close to how reviewers work.
19e5da No.16622397
>>16622056
I've been replaying Twilight Princess lately and it's really fucking good. It's at least in the same league as the other 3D Zeldas, if not as good or better. I really wonder why it has such a bad reputation(by Zelda standards anyway). It's usually regarded as only slightly better than Skyward Sword and the DS games.
cb34e2 No.16622407
>>16622379
I get that. That's why I'm saying look out for Stadia exclusive reviews. Because if the pattern continues then Stadia walking sims will be GOTY as the media tried to funnel the normalfags into streaming and GaaS titles. Shills want Stadia to become the next Xbox.
dc4da0 No.16622419
>>16622397
Twilight Princess did manage a 95-96 on metacritic despite the hate, but the seeds had been sown. The HD remake got an 85, while fucking Shadow of the Colossus's HD remake still got a 90+
It's not just about old vs new, but about Nintendo vs the rest. Nintendo is the company which had a monopoly over the classics, and the best-rated games before the mid-2000s almost always came from Nintendo. TP has a bad reputation now because of hatred against Nintendo
19e5da No.16622459
>>16622419
>It's not just about old vs new, but about Nintendo vs the rest.
I don't know about that. All the reviewers creamed themselves over Breath of the Wild and, to a lesser extent, Mario Odyssey.
b00e06 No.16622483
>>16622459
I think OP mentioned exceptions like Mario and Zelda. However that doesn't change the general rule
521b5c No.16622698
But they love nostalgia and older pop-culture stuff because they're "classics" and therefore good. Do you just not want to share opinions with soy-chugging numales and diversity hires who can't play video games?
I'm counting 80 as "good" by the way.
cb34e2 No.16622932
>>16622459
I'm pretty sure it's about ideology in the end because their guys in Treehouse exists.
71a817 No.16623005
1. Obviously reviewers are going to review new games highly because they want to sell them and they are actually in production (this was a bigger problem in the 00s before steam, zoomie)
2. Reviews aren't everything and being upset about them is stupid. The power of the Review wasn't just a stupid number, it was getting placement in a print magazine in the first place. A shit game that got two spreads (4 pages) plus ads probably did better than a good game that only got a single number and 250 characters of text. This is basic advertising.
3. Nintendo is just as (((affected))) as the rest and don't deserve to be defended, especially when their console is clearly subpar to everything else. The only reason to buy a Nintendo is for Smash, Mario and Zelda. This is a very limited offering.
4. Those franchises died because they didn't have mass market appeal. COD, GT and Madden make for easy christmas presents with the latter two not having anything parents would find objectionable but would still interest an adult. Not everyone wants to play boxed PC games, but guess what even then Steam came along and pissed on this entire model. Same for the stores Google and Apple offer.
>>16622056
Most prefer Microsoft because they stupidly think the return policy is better. Also, TP is a 5/10 game not an 8.8. Midnafags can get fucked, TP was brown and bloom up the ass and the dungeons were shit. WW was at least good to look at and the Gamecube was a far better console than the Wii.
05ca5c No.16623472
>>16622009
You're overthinking this if you believe everyone doing this is a soy.
The picture in the OP is just terribly faked.
That being said, what's the chad idle stance?
6f91d6 No.16623503
>OUR BELOVED FRANCHISES
Lol, franchises are cancer whether they're your beloved sanic or some soulless realistic shooter. I can't even tell if these mascot fanboys are shills or just soyboys.
734e44 No.16623568
>>16622325
I love this Stadia thing and streaming services in general because they're basically just the internet with a fancy label on them for consolefags
173dfd No.16623629
before 2010s
>dooms okay i guess, the mods are nice
general public
>Whats doom?
*nu-doom announced*
reviewers
>OMG SOOOOO HYPE
>BACK TO ITS ROOTS
>CLASSIC 90s GAMEPLAY!!!!
9/10
Comments from people who never even heard of the original game
>WOOOOOOOOOOO
>LE RIP AND TEAR XDDDD
>SOOO RETRO
>LE DOOM SLAYER
6ae989 No.16624058
I have a sincere question: why do normalfags put so much value on the shallow opinions of e-celeb reviewers? I remember when channel awesome started up and every window licking faggot was copying precisely what platitudes the talking heads spewed at them, same with the orbiting fucks like movieblob and yatzee. Is this some kind of friend simulator for losers like mst3k, in that the mark is supposed to think the person telling him what to think is his pal for making the same cancerous 2007 geek humor references (none of these idiots have actual jokes)?
The other thing that gets me is that none of the content in said videos are actually insightful–it's just surface level observations any drop out of film school can make. Has the bar for human existence been lowered so thoroughly that a manchild screaming about how much he hates some obscured 90's animated movie while editing in flare bursts around his toy guns considered "deep" now?
Observations like this make me wonder if the blue bloods and aristocracy of old weren't right to use the plebians as an abusable workforce; if this is the full measure of a normalfag's "soul" then he deserves being made a tool of.
d13cb2 No.16624076
>>16623629
what if I told you the game is good and judging the game inversely proportional to what reddit thinks is as retarded as eating ecelebs' shit
312ad5 No.16624079
>>16622338
Well, Hollow Knight is a third of the price.
312ad5 No.16624080
>>16622348
Almost like it was mediocre. Put in the kind of love that modern Donkey Kong and Rayman got, and then we'll talk.
c986e4 No.16624221
>>16624058
Your average schmuck is drawn to these ecelebs in the first place for the entertainment value. The goal of any eceleb worth his salt is to entertain his audience, which has the side effect of them seeking answers from him. Being exposed to someone's opinion hurts a lot less if you aim to agree with every word they say, so whatever comes out of the mouths of Doug Walker, Noah Antwiler and so on immediately becomes gospel for someone strictly looking to maximise their enjoyment from their content.
With the whole survival thing taken care of, the priorities of those living in Western civilisations have shifted towards preserving safety and experiencing amusement. Religion as a survival mechanism isn't needed anymore in these regions and has become a lot more superficial as a result, but the common cur still needs something to give them direction. Thing is, their minds aren't stimulated by the challenging elements of nature anymore, so they need stimulus along with those directions.
Cutting through a monolithic wall of text isn't most people's ideas of fun, even if that text may contain an essay far more profound and insightful than anything squeezed into some ten minute YouTube vid. Most people are lazy, so they'll grip onto whatever presents its content in the most entertaining way possible, which is often what reaches them first because content that is stimulating and easy to process will inevitably gain popularity and make the rounds.
Being a content creator is not only rewarding in terms of wealth and fame but also in garnering a dedicated following who (mostly) take in your every word. You feel a little safer knowing there's people out there who definitely agree with you (because you told them to and they wanted to) and your audience is a little safer with the knowledge that the guy who's been entertaining them is someone they can agree with - someone who doesn't challenge them and make them feel unsafe - and knowing there's others who also agree with that someone. It's a surreal expression of our survival instincts, to say the least.
This phenomenon isn't exclusive to ecelebs at all, but is common in any accessible media. It's so common these days to see some celebrity speak out against Trump or whatever because that's what gives their audience something to feel emotion over - something to at least feel like they're working toward. As if any dumb college kid has done a thing for whatever vapid cause they saw on a Facebook post (besides get offended because some dude said the word white), but, as long as they feel like good people for reciting what their gods taught them, they'll feel affirmed with a sense of purpose. Actors get their point across far better than any saint could have. Comedians like Jon Stewart make for much better politicians than the average senator. These days, fame is divinity.
38a24c No.16624245
>>16622056
But TP was legitimately more boring than the Zeldas that came before it.
38a24c No.16624249
>>16622397
>>16622419
It has a "bad reputation" because of shit like collecting the bugs, wolf combat encounters were very repetitive and boring, and lame items like the spinning gear.
It really seems to me like this thread isn't about abolishing the review mafia, just replacing it with one Nintendo approves.
312ad5 No.16624265
>>16624245
And after. It's not very good.
92283d No.16624277
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>>16622056
>>16624245
I think out of all the 3D zeldas
twilight princess has the best art direction, but like with all 3D Zelda tittles, playing the game becomes an absolute chore at some point. Nintendo even seems to be aware that almost nobody actually finishes an entire of a modern Zelda game.
312ad5 No.16624280
>>16624277
TP's art style just feels like a needlessly dirty version of OOT's. Link also has major tard face.
312ad5 No.16624287
Compare:
Cleaner. More vibrant colouring. Just much more appealing.
8af80a No.16624295
Fuck franchises, anyways. I want new IPs
92283d No.16624310
>>16624287
it looks way more comic-book ish. aesthetics aside, the series "game play" is tired and broken. side note, I felt most of the dungeons in OOT looked horrible from a visual standpoint and the so-called "puzzles" are more gimmicky and annoying then fun or engaging. and now that I think about it, the color pallet in the game doesn't match the art you posted and the models are so gimped the concept art doesn't don't really come through very well (if at all), but thats more the fault of Nintendo's hardware I guess…
312ad5 No.16624330
>>16624310
We're talking about the art style, not the actual game. I don't think OOT has aged too badly though. Obliviously it's aged. That's a 20 year old game. It still has plenty of striking images.
312ad5 No.16624335
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
You also shouldn't overlook the 3DS version. A few issues aside (Ganon battle). It actually cleans up the graphics quite nicely.
d503f7 No.16624405
>>16624335
>>16624287
>>16624330
Just dropping by to say that emulated in Citra both OoT and MM look amazing, but MM really benefits from having the free-look camera.
312ad5 No.16624411
>>16624405
Yeah, that's how the footage in the video was captured.
81de18 No.16624456
>>16621994
Angry Joe shat all over Angry Joe when he confronted Keighley while being woefully unprepared for the interview
e4b9ae No.16624488
>>16624472
U mad?
Read >>16624119 and accept Stadia is gonna be a huge hit. Google will bring a ton of exclusives to it.
9a3b56 No.16624495
e66b94 No.16624505
blackpill nigger sure is working overtime today. how much you get paid, nigger?
cb6adb No.16624513
>>16624488
you are not even trying to hide it goldberg.
9d4751 No.16624551
>>16624505
Aren't most of the blackpill nigger posts done by a bot?
c27634 No.16624554
>>16624551
It's a bit of both, they usually work in a group. It's why you always see JEWCY boy spam around the same time
c27634 No.16624588
Man, blackpill really did a number on this thread.
59c891 No.16624643
>>16624505
>>16624588
>>16624551
The truth is actually always white and pure.
It's only haters like you want to call it black because you are the guardians of this hateful pony culture hell-bent on proving the superiority of shooters/cutscene simulators/realistic racers etc. because of your blind fanboyism
b00e06 No.16624661
>>16624560
>Appreciating video games = idolatry
LMAO have you taken your medication?
>Reviewers are conspiring against us with the Jews
>Reviewers are Jews
>I don't even know why I posted in this thread
Fuck off
cb34e2 No.16624668
Whelp we still have to predict what the next metacritic pattern will be. I think Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess are examples of games being released in their times. I wonder what TP would review if it wasn't delayed for Wii.
b00e06 No.16624756
If a new game in a franchise sticks to the old formula like Bloodstained:
>IT'S THE SAME OLD SHIT WTF!!?
>8/10
If the game tries new stuff:
>THEY RUINED MY CHILDHOOD!! FUCK THEM!!!!
>7/10
Either way there is indeed a glass ceiling for almost all non-shooter, pre-2007 franchises created by these shill reviewers who masturbate to inferior PC-emulators like PlayStation and Xbox
fadabc No.16624761
>>16624456
No actually if you notice the graphics whore Keighley was ignoring him and his questions from the very get-go
6849fc No.16624955
>>16621947
All of this actually stems from the hatred and disdain that the hobby and its participants have received since, basically ever
The idea of games being cool and for everyone is a marketing ploy made to get cash, while selling non-games to people who want to be part of trends. In the way Big Bazinga Theory made people think it's "hip" to be a nerd or autismo, it's now "hip" to be a gamer
But the ideas of nerd and gamer being spread around don't correspond to reality. Which is why the things that nerds/gamers actually enjoy and want are still demonized, attacked and destroyed, while the marketing-approved, money-making idea of what these consist of gets pushed
It's why normalfags blindly consume Avengers movies and jerk-off to fanfiction of tranny Peter Parker having an incestuous relationship with his stepfather, tranny Iron Man and then tell incels to have sex whenever a discussion on comic books happen
In the same vein, praising the shitty, effortless, cash-grabbing non-games of today is acceptable and expected and a game with actual substance or that appeals to actual nerds/gamers is pedomaterial
Then there's also groups of people who just join in on this shit to cover up their actual crimes/pedophilia like the constantly-growing list of male ally feminists or journalists that get caught for CP, rape, molestation, etc. The idea is that accusing others will take the heat off them and allow them to continue engaging in their shit, because everyone will be too busy going after innocuous, legal shit like games with anime tits
Also, Jews
ed2228 No.16625103
>>16624076
nuDoom is considered a good game, but that is it. It wasn't great, it wasn't spectacular, it was just a "breath of fresh air" in an extremely stale market that was parched for a game that actually "challenged" people.
6ae9fd No.16625349
>>16621947
Babies crybabies
a1ad3d No.16625385
>>16625349
This is exactly the sort of abuse that's being discussed. First you try to kill off a franchise and then you bully its lovers
ee7e32 No.16625408
Oh, that reminds me.
Does anyone else remember how, back in the late 2000s, there seemed to be a sharp criticism about games having blood and gore used in some of the most immature ways as possible?
Pic unrelated
2033bc No.16625477
>>16621947
Only solution is to gas niggers, jews, and spics, and you fucking know it. Some chinks too.
a1ad3d No.16625601
>>16625477
Fuck off you deranged fuck
bfcac8 No.16625605
>>16625477
that's so epic xD
9819e3 No.16625657
>>16625605
>>16625601
Where do you think you are, faggots?
5df41d No.16625675
>>16621947
>xbot
>sony pony
Only thing you're missing is a soyjack image you fucking 4cuck
7fba7a No.16625705
>>16624439
>>16624221
>With the whole survival thing taken care of, the priorities of those living in Western civilisations have shifted towards preserving safety and experiencing amusement.
except humans had that already. sure, the roman empire was a lot less sophisticated but the average roman probably had a pretty cushy life compared to someone living in the middle of bumfuck nowhere having to hunt for their daily food.
I mean those niggas had that whole "bread and circuses" thing down over 2000 fucking years ago. let that sink in for a minute. I don't even wanna imagine what it will be like in the next 2000 years (not that I believe we will ever make it this far)
f4132e No.16625713
>>16624277
>twilight princess
but that game is shit
d29ed2 No.16625732
>>16625657
Thanks for bringing something of worth to the thread
bfcac8 No.16625737
>>16625675
dude where's your eyes?
f4132e No.16625749
>>16625737
>eye
Hi FBI-Chan
98aac5 No.16627726
>>16621947
>Nintendo games get perfect scores even on broken review copies of BOTW
>Nintendo customers still complain when the game doesn't get a 100 on metacritic
Possibly the worst thread of all time.
5ef73b No.16640024
>>16622109
Fuck you man, CoD4 was an amazing game
8b774f No.16640097
>>16622247
Feels like a copypasta thread from a Nintendrone
c6f651 No.16640596
There's a lot of interesting ideas going around in the industry that may or may not indicate that certain genres or video game tropes are indeed favorable within the review sphere, which still unfortunately holds quite a bit of importance in the industry. Rather than state the usual disdain certain critics seem to have for parts of the medium or the abhorrent skill some of them have displayed. Instead, i'd rather look at how reviews being thrown at us so fast with said journalists barely having time to review the games in question.
This is a problem because, while some games do not necessarily suffer from being consumed so fast, others on the other hand require a certain amount of commitment to appreciate, and may be expected to live up to predecessors & leaders of a genre on more intricate levels than what critics usually go over. I don't believe that going over such matters for the more educated users looking for a critic is a loss in itself: In fact, i'd say it's part of a good Game Journalist/Critic to be able to write articles showing knowledge while remaining accessible. Other games are also highly dependant on their community who will eventually become the remaining core that still plays the game: Fair warnings of what's to come for those purchasing the game late looking into the online would be appreciated.
I just don't really think the Game Industry is that suited to the current ways of reviewing Games. I'd also say the means of consumption of certain consumers have gotten worse, potentially harmful as a whole.
b79bc9 No.16640903
> having loyalty to an IP you don't legally and creatively own.
Prepare for a lifetime of disappointment.
> 2007
Fuck that year. Holy dick.
534686 No.16641091
>>16640903
You can probably say the same thing about the Bible or Odyssey.
e755dd No.16641105
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16625103
NuDoom's storytelling
e755dd No.16641245
>>16624058
>Observations like this make me wonder if the blue bloods and aristocracy of old weren't right to use the plebians as an abusable workforce; if this is the full measure of a normalfag's "soul" then he deserves being made a tool of.
Are you sure the full measure of a normalfag's """soul""" was always that shallow, and that it hasn't been ground down to a fine dust from centuries of being serfs?