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>>16621674

Sure can, buddy!

1) Don't play too conservatively. The tutorials in each game tries to hammer down in your skull that every unit counts, but it really does not. The best way to play this game is to get acquainted with how the map looks like and understanding the enemy's target priorities (APCs, capturing units etc.) and building priorities (you can manipulate the AI by deliberately attacking certain units, just damaging them and letting them go back to a city until they're fully healed, or keeping units you don't need just so the enemy creates their counter for no reason other than the fact they know you have a unit weak to them).

2) The AI cheats a lot in fog of war, they have perfect vision of the map unless you're hidden (submerged, in shores, in forests) so you can exploit this by forest hopping and deliberately getting enemy units to follow your in-sight ones.

3) HQ capture is a much more important strategy than the games let you believe, you don't have to gun down every single enemy unit - in fact each map has its own Power score, as long as you meet that criteria which is usually a percentage, you can get that rank. Tech is also tied to how many units you have lost, so try and merge them when you think they can't make it.

4) If you have too much trouble on the intermediate maps and you just want to beat them without thinking too much, just build a ton of Mechanized Infantry. They're relatively cheap, traverse most terrain and they have enough hps to stop enemy units. You should never try something like this on harder maps or against human players - latter is usually considered grounds for an instant ragequit

5) Learn the COs, more specifically there's like five tiers but only the top 2 matter: Broken Commanders (Colin, who shaves off 20% of every purchase, Hachi, which is kinda similar, and AW2 Sturm, who can traverse all terrain at 0 cost and build units with added strength) and Top Tier (Sami, essential for most War Room maps for completing HQ captures, Grit, for being THE zoner of the game and some other spot that switches with each game).

6) Usually multiplayer is played to turns and captures instead of domination and hq capture, so always try to grab cities as further down the road as possible rather than those closest to your spawn areas

7) Don't waste money on units you don't need! Saving money for one turn is essential on some maps, since it allows you to have stronger units rather than two weaker ones.

Use the girl and spam mech infantry

>>16621740

…wtf, someone on a chan is being helpful?

>>16621807

lurk more

If you're playing single player just learn to abuse AI. The AI is extremely stupid. For starters, Advance Wars 1's AI is notorious for having a strong desire to destroy your transport units.

Also fog of war maps are bullshit trial and error if you're trying to S-rank.

>>16621865

>Also fog of war maps are bullshit trial and error if you're trying to S-rank.

This is basically what I needed to hear. :/

>>16621807

Glad of being of help. Though I'm kind of suspecting you came here straight from some other website and never really read any thread, most anons are quite friendly here.

In case some of you didn't know, super famicom wars was translated not too long ago.

>Domination=win if you have 75 percent of the buildings on the map.

Why didn't we have that in advance wars?!

>>16624786

Hopefully not, Intelligent Systems is not qualified anymore.

>>16621827

imagine being such a gigantic virgin loser that you would write all this shit

Is Wargroove even remotely comparable?

>>16623894

Jess is fun

>>16624786

>someone in IS got interviewed and asked about a future to AW/FW

>"we'd like to but we wouldn't know how to implement romance mechanics" paraphrased

Let it stay dead

>>16624886

Imagine reddit-spacing on an imageboard.

>>16624886

imagine being this stupid

>>16624786

So it can have the same fate as Fire Emblem?

>>16624786

Yeah but it won't be called "Advance Wars" and probably won't look like it.

>>16625082

>He doesn't want to get deep dicked by Max

What are you a fag

>>16621827

thats scary how accurate that shit is

>>16624904

gameplay looks pretty good if you can stomach the tumblr tier art

>>16623862

Neat. Will have to try it.

>>16624786

I don't want to see this series get the Fire Emblem treatment. Please stop asking for things like this.

>>16625171

Irony on the net iisn't funny.

>>16625082

source?

>>16625334

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/05/advance_wars_producer_doesnt_have_a_clear_idea_for_new_entry

>>16625352

>its real

any game that requires thinking is just not palatable to the sub80 iq muttmonkey target install base

This thread reminds me, is there currently any way to play DS games online? I haven't had my fix of DoR in years.

>>16625474

The actual games or Advance Wars in general?

No idea about the former, but there's this

https://awbw.amarriner.com/

>>16625490

Looks cool, anybody wanna have a game with me?

Autistic hypothetical Advance Wars game ideas time. Here we go.

>Bring back Black Hole

Love their spaceman aesthetic and their weird technology, plus Neo-Tanks. I didn't give a single shit about the bad guys from Days Of Ruin and their stupid flower disease. Bring back the cartoon bad guys. The Black Blob things from near the end of Dual Strike also ruled. Bring those back too.

>Robot/Walker units

This is one I've wanted since Dual Strike, to continue the evolution of the Neo-Tank. The Walker would be a big expensive unit with the ability to fire indirectly on Air Units with missiles from 1 tile away. Like an Anti-Tank from DoR that can also shoot planes. It's weakness being it's direct/counter offensive capability, being the same as a regular Tank. It'd be represented in battle as a squad of 3 walkers, losing one each time the unit's HP drops by 33%.

>Replace Flare unit with Mortar tanks

Mortars would replace Flare units from Days Of Ruin, but get two more abilities in addition to it's Flare: Smoke creates a blotch of Fog Of War in the same area as a Flare for your units to hide in. Smoke cannot be cleared by Flares, and lasts for 2 turns. Shell is the 2nd ability, which deals 1 damage to all land and sea units in a 3x3 area, similar to using a missile. It can only bring units to 1HP, but won't be able to destroy them completely. Each one of these abilities reduces the unit's Ammo by 1.

>APCs can set up FOBs on Plains and Roads, which provide additional defense to units.

>Temp Buildings (airports, seaports, FOBs) can also be destroyed if you do not need to capture them. Units on top of a temp building will need to be destroyed first.

>Paratroopers can be carried by Bombers. Once deployed Paratroopers count as an Air Unit for the next turn and are vulnerable to Anti-Air units, Fighters, and Dusters. They can return fire on Helicopters if attacked. Once on the ground they become normal Infantry units.

>Minelayer tanks can place Anti-Vehicle Mines to deny movement. AV Mines are not triggered by infantry.

>Turrets can be built to automatically fire on enemies in range at the start of your turn.

That's all I got for now.

>>16623862

I'll give it a go, maybe

>>16623886

The Super Famicom Wars title is a lot slower than the Advance Wars series in general. Units attack simultaneously, meaning that most skirmishes take a long time, most units move really slowly across the map, it's mainly made as a single player game rather than with multiplayer in mind, most Commanders don't have actual powers but those that do are overpowered as fuck, also APCs can fight back and there's a railway mechanic that is really cool but gets only used limitedly. Also Neotanks exist but you can only build them upon capturing special buildings.

>>16624786

Growing older, I've realized that it's probably better to let all these series I've loved die peacefully than being repeatedly raped like nuFire Emblem. Still, I wish Nutendo would at least acknowledge their existence.

>>16624904

Gameplay wise is fine, but 1) muh diversity with not a single white male commander and multiculti humans, 2) portraits and voices are horrible, 3) they added hero units, which adds a bit of strategy to the match, but killing them counts as a victory condition, so you can forget about the rest of the map and just focus on them, four units are generally enough to take them down if you can bait them out of position, so the game ends up being easier 4) music sucks

>>16625490

That website sucks but somehow it's still up and running. How come no one else tried to make a functional online advance wars?

>>16625490

There used to be server emulator for DS games, and you could play actual DS games that used WFC online with it. I know about AWBW, and it's far from what I want.

>>16625503

Also, fun fact: Flare actually had uses outside fog of war in DoR unlike anti-tanks.

>>16625504

I mean, how is "domination" different from capturing a set number of properties as a win condition that every AW had? I played SFW before it got the translation, so I know how it works, down to some advanced mechanics.

>>16625528

Don't forget anything by Xenesis. I was not ready for the War Room Challenge hack at all.

>>16625332

that kind of joke is way worse in person though

>>16625523

You just capture most of the buildings on the map and the enemy yields, it's not rocket science

>>16625528

Fuck yeah that shit was hilarious, down to the unhelpful intel and legacy memes

>>16625538

Forgot about the challenge war rooms. Wish there was more quality hacks for the games.

>>16625523

Anti-Tanks were awesome, they were basically just tanks that could fire both direct and indirect.

I know the Flare had a machine gun on it but I never really needed to use it as a combat unit.

>>16621674

mech spam + sensei will always be broken

colin cheap units are also broken.

>>16625621

I think it's beautiful that Colin's cheap units AND Kanbei's expensive units are broken.

>>16624786

When Three Houses flops they might try and bring it back with dating elements.

I want them to add a dating sim part but then once you try to romance Sami or whoever she's like "bro wtf are you serious? There's a war going on. Get back to work."

>>16625632

Always liked Colin vs Kanbei matches. Never ending zerg against retard strength.

>>16625634

Why would it flop? Also, why hasn't anyone hacked in Advance Wars themed characters and units into FE? I know it wouldn't make a whole lotta sense, but it'd be neat.

>>16625352

I am starting my own project after wargroove was such a fucking letdown.

Might take years though. Here are some rough ideas I want I want to implement, maybe some longtime fans can tell me what they think. Of course balancing and pricing needs to be work out.

>sniper, indirect infantry unit

>shotgun trooper, two tile combat unit

I just want to see more multitile units in general

>missile frigate

like a carrier that launches weaker version of black bomb

>terrain modification

bombing a forest too many times turns it into burned tile, city similar etc.

>fire

like napalm, something that lasted as a block for a few turns

I want to possibly see more long range warefare and appropriate counters, but not married to the idea.

I would also like to have more units in general be common.

I am thinking about a betrayal mission, where part way through allies turn on you.

Commanders should be broken again.

In my experience, making everything broken tends to be its own type of balance. I have yet to program AI for singleplayer games, so I am really nervous about how to do that.

>>16625645

colin + kenbei are my DS team.

>>16625504

>Famicon wars railway

oh snap, that was another thing I wanted to reintegrate here>>16625652

I really liked DoR's Bike and Seaplane units. Felt like they added a lot to the game. Or at least would have if Battleships weren't so fucking stupid.

>>16621827

>Kindle

I tried this bitch one day and holy shit is she fun. Made me wish every CO had a functional difference between their powers. analysis is pretty spot on tbh

>>16625523

>Flare had uses outside Fog of War

Why not just build Recons?

>trash talking Anti-Tanks

You take that back. The fact that regular machinegun fire is effective against them is a cool design feature.

>>16625648

>Why would it flop?

Fujoshit artist, no children and possibly no gay romances is turning off nuemblem fans. Fujoshit artist, school shit and fates is turning off old emblem fans. The school shit isn't bringing in the persona audience. The game also isn't being advertised outside of Japan.

>>16625652

>Commanders should be broken again.

What do you mean by that? Speaking from multiplayer point of view, AW2 and AWDS had roughly the same broken COs, and DoR's broken pantheon was roughly the same share of the total cast. Even the first AW was similar in that regard. You aren't going to fix the issue of some COs being outright useless easily, especially in pre-DoR games, where COs' unique strengths rarely come into play, and what actually makes them good or bad is how well they are tailored to the one day-to-day strategy everyone must follow regardless of which of the 25 characters you picked.

>>16625691

When compared to Recon, for an extra 1000 you can get a unit that is better at traveling any terrain rougher than roads, deals marginally more damage to opponent's capturing units, and can even harass opponent's Recon if he tries to disrupt your own Infantry with one (something that Recon itself can't do, its damage is laughable even to other Recons).

Meanwhile, all Anti-Tank gets over Artillery at nearly double the price is being able to stall your opponent's gauge charge when compared to using Infantry meatshield (while also costing more to repair), and not being weak to B-Copter. And reliably 2HKOing Md Tanks late in the game.

Seaplane is an interesting unit, but with its ridiculous price it's basically just Stealth that doesn't require a Black Bomb to keep it in check.

>>16625766

I was comparing days of ruin to earlier iterations of CO's

Of course there were ways to break DoR co's too, but not like earlier.

>>16625740

That's a interesting combination of problems.

>>16625766

I'm not the best when it comes to vocalizing my thoughts on Advance Wars, but I enjoyed the changes to the DoR COs but feel like there was still room for COs to have production buffs/debuffs that got removed in place of CO Zones.

What DoR CO's besides Caulder are considered broken by the way?

>>16626284

Only Caulder and Isabella are broken, to my knowledge. Tabitha was considered broken for a while, but her CO unit is relatively easy to deal with, and the rest of her army is left pretty underpowered. Lin and Tabitha are both broken in FoW, but fog of war has always been fucked in these series.

>>16625652

I hope you mean broken by ridiculous strengths and weaknesses.

>>16626316

>Only Caulder and Isabella are broken, to my knowledge

Tabitha I understand, but Isabella is considered broken? She gets a +2/+2 on units in her zone, and a Grit CO ability. That's good don't get me wrong, but I don't see how that makes her overpowered but I'm not the best at strategy games. Historically I'd play probably choose either Brenner or Gage if I wanted either a buff to all units or improved indirect attack. Isabella felt like a middle ground CO.

>>16625504

>muh diversity with not a single white male commander and multiculti humans

Wasnt there an anon who did some skin edits or did he never upload them?

>>16626361

+2 movement for directs and +2 range for indirects can matter a great deal, and she gets both. She also boosts all units by +10/+10, so while it's lower than what Will and Gage have, it applies to everything they use and more (so B-Copters, because other units don't matter much). After activating her power she can have a turn of guaranteed first strikes with Tanks or spam 4 MP Mechs, and use 5 range artillery all at the same time, in addition to stronger and faster copters that those two don't have. In late game it can also mean faster Md Tanks, and fast Bombers that OHKO even more things than they usually do, but at that point the game is likely decided. Her power is guaranteed to benefit her entire army in one way or another, when other COs only get some of those benefits.

Tabitha is underpowered because she only gets one superpowered unit, and the rest of her army is guaranteed to be weaker than any other CO she may face. The way CO zone works, you have, at the absolute least, 3 whole turns to come up with a solution before her presence becomes an actual problem.

>>16626527

Shouldn't Adder be higher tier then?

>>16626565

Depends on the game. I don't know how high Adder is in AWDS, but day to day matters a great deal in AW2 due to how slowly the powers charge, so having 100/100 units hurts him a bit. He doesn't get any attack bonus from powers, either, so he gets his first strike with completely bland units. I know that Max is very high, however, and it's at least in part thanks to the movement boost he gets, even in AW2, where indirects aren't useless. And I'm pretty sure Adder is still rated higher than other 100/100s like Andy and Olaf.

>>16625082

>Romance mechanics

…..Can someone launch the nuke already?

>>16625503

An idea I had was for an AW enemy army with a homeland that comprises a large amount of water/swampland leading them to design a large of amount of amphibious vehicles designs.

>hovercraft (for their APC's)

>fanboats (a replacement for recon or an aquatic alternative?)

>jet ski/ATV hybrid infantry unit (replaces trike)

>seaplanes for fighter and bomber aircraft

>Bridge carrying APC like vehicle to drop a bridge for any that can't cross a river (any water craft can go under a bridge)

>Walkable train rail and train cannon unit to replace the uncrossable pipe terrian and pipe runner unit

So storywise the player would be invaded their homeland and having to fight against a highly mobile amphibious enemy army compared to your own. Or alternatively they could be invading your countries slightly swampy homeland and with a non-linear campaign the player has to decide which territories (with different terrain with different strength/weakness for each armies side) they have to defend to drive the enemy out and reclaim tech/intel to use against them (like build plans to reverse engineer their amphibious vehicle tech)

>pick swampy region on the overworld map of homeland to defend

>get ass kicked or barely scrap by with a victory (causes enemy to either move closer to homelands captial where they would have final victory)

>try a more dryer area like a fucking desert level that more in your homeland's favor

>some sandstorms for FoW may happen but you still kick ass, driving the invaders back

>fight a few more levels and push the enemy out of the desert territories

>get some sort of strength/weapon research bonus or vehicle unlock build bonus for doing this

>go back to swamp region with your new knowledge and strength

>start kicking their ass at their own game using your versions of their amphibious tech

>throughout the overworld map, resources/funds (from the capital) and weather (depends on wind direction) get moved to different portions of the map in turn based time.

>this means you could start a region level with more money or some bonus units. (while the invaders would have their own version of fund/resource movement from their invasion point)

>could even have negatives like not having access to build certain vehicles temporary for a level which could be explained as you have the funds but not the "material" (like rubber treads or tank armour?) to build a new tank or if you were to build a tank it wouldn't have treads or armour making it weaker and waste of money for that level)

>with weather effects the player has to take in consideration of terrain changes like having a rain storm starting on the 15th turn because it's blowing north and will give the invaders an advantage (obviously a good strong player could defeat them before then).

In the end I think I just combined AW with Starfox 2's randomization system.

VS DIRECT UNITS

This is your #1 bread and butter strategy

hold B and check the enemy's fire range

park your units the square next to their max range.

Now send one bait unit so they approach it

Now Attack the units they send.

You can do this in bottle necks and capitalize by having indirect units to help you finish off the enemies pulled.

VS INDIRECT UNITS

Park Speedy/the correct units next to max firing range

do the bait pull strat

clear direct units

Now send speedy units to finish off indirect units

>When they bottleneck You

Fall back, unless you can kill their indirect units by attacking first.

Only press on the attack if their next turn their damaged units will lose if they attack

The meta of this game is about

1) getting the first strike 2)min-maxing attack range

Hope it helps

I only played DoR but i had fun, it was just too hard for me as a youngster. I think i got to mission 18 or something before i gave up. Maybe i should go back to the game if i can still find my DS and the game?

>>16626758

Definitely. DoR is also relatively easy compared to the GBA games. Try AWDS if you want something even easier, or AW1 and AW2 if you want a challenge.

>>16626766

I remembered that reviews said that DoR was the hardest of the AW games and DS was quiet easy.

>>16626772

DS is ridiculously easy. But even after coming back to the first AW later, I find its campaign harder than DoR's. And that's before AW's hard mode.

>>16625655

Together, it's just retarded. And honestly, double CO teams is a retarded concept, the way it is done.

>>16621827

>Kindle and Jess as preferred COs

Welp, this is 100% accurate. Back to browsing milf porn.

>>16626323

yes exactly.

>>16626847

Oh I agree, tag is too much and dual CO's have no place in multiplayer. But it is fun in skirmish.

>>16625474

Totally. Good fucking luck finding anybody to play with, though. The DS requires either WEP or an unsecured wifi spot, but if you can jigger up one of those then getting online is as simple as wiping the old WFC data from your system and changing the DNS to 164.132.44.106.

>>16626772

Compared to the GBA games, DoR has much better enemy AI, but typically doesn't have as much of a numerical advantage and doesn't cheat in fog of war.

>>16626772

DS is easy because of how much of it you can cheese via double COs and forces. Base campaign is piss easy but the extra modes make up for it, frankly the game was just the only direction AW could go at the time.

>>16635036

IIRC you just have to make a mad dash for the points where Old Rick from Rick and Morty spawns more units and sort of ignore most properties but bases.

>>16643440

That's what I did to beat that mission after failing it twice. I just destroyed two cannons early, then finished off the rest with a CO bomber. My problem is that, like every time I tried it, it felt like my control suddenly slipped one turn, and it all went downhill from there, despite successfully keeping Caulder in check for most of the mission.

>>16645307

Yeah I'd say DoR's final mission is almost at the level of AW2 normal campaign final mission, though the latter can be cheesed once you know of the RNG manipulation, still getting an S rank there was really quite difficult on a casual playthrough

>>16643440

You don't need to make a mad dash towards anything, just watch the lasers, avoid the mortars, and carefully move your units forward. I've been able to rout the enemy on Sunrise before, but they don't end the level until I destroy the lasers. Probably the hardest level in the series really.

>>16646225

Avoiding the mortars isn't exactly possible, they always aim for the spot where they will deal the most cumulative damage. Carefully moving units forward is also unfeasible, since you need to grab as many properties as you can to outproduce Caulder's two automatic factories and cripple arriving units before they can deal any lasting damage on top of mortar fire.

And I can't call it the hardest mission after accidentally choosing Andy's route instead of Sami's in AW1's AC. Also, trigger warning: Kanbei's Error?.

>>16624886

Olaf player detected

>>16646408

It's very possible. You have tons of units, bases and income to pull the mortars with.