/v/ - Video Games

>>16621181

>OSSC

My Dreamcast box came pre-assembled but it looks like an easy enough build.

>>16621612

How dare you.

>>16621034

>actually investing in FILTERS: Hardware edition.

Just get a fucking CRT from a thrift store you Goddamned mongoloid.

>>16621285

Superior airflow brah!

>>16621881

>FILTERS: Hardware edition

>>16621950

I think you just don't appreciate Sweet Scanline Goodness.

>>16621034

>>16629423

I have an OSSC, works great for me. it took about a month to reach me in the US from VGP (came with a remote and power supply) in the UK. don't get any of the Chinese knock offs on ebay. price difference is not worth it.

>>16629487

you don't have to use scan-lines, its just an optional thing.

>>16629514

>So why would you buy this instead of a CRT?

CRTs are an aging technology with lots of drawbacks and they are almost imposable to repair for the average user. finding one in good condition is harder then you think. not to mention getting RGB quality from a CRT in most places outside the UK is impossible without modifying the CRT itself, an OSSC is RGB ready out of the box. large CRTs are super heavy and rare. large flat panel displays are lightweight and easy to find new. not to mention you don't have to worry about geometry issues. (regardless, I use both CRTs and LCDs in my game room).

>Newer screens have terrible black levels anyway.

most decent VA panels thees days have better blacks then the average CRT.

OP, you and everyone in this thread falling for the scanlines meme is an idiot.

The closest you'll get to having the games actually "looking" like how they originally looked is by using the "crt-lottes" shader with an S-video filter.

>>16621965

Why use scanlines at all if you're just going to round the pixels?

>>16631871

dude, its a scan converter and its main job is making 240p graphics not look like shit on modern display devices (most scalers do a shit job with 240p sources). its also helpful for recoding games on original hardware in high quality uncompressed RGB.

>>16631856

different tube and mask type produces different looks, some will have very visible scan-lines and some wont.

>>16631918

>different tube and mask type produces different looks, some will have very visible scan-lines and some wont.

I hate to say this (Since you seem to know more than I do), but you're wrong as evidenced by all those pictures you have. NONE of those pictures have a grill running across the screen (Which most scanline shaders/filters are). What they DO have is "individual pixels" with their horizontal separation more visible than their vertical separation (Not to mention, there's a more "uniform" line running vertically across the screen, separating the "pixels", than horizontally).

>>16631970

I not sure what you're trying to argue, its a known fact that the "scanline effect" is more pronounced by the line count of the tube. the pictures you posted look like typical shadow mask CRT's with a 350TVL. pixels are digital not analogue. what you're describing as "pixels" are just CRT phosphor dots and they will look different depending on the technology used in the CRT.

>>16631918

>its main job is making 240p graphics not look like shit on modern display devices

Hell yeah, brother! Mission accomplished.

>>16632237

>>16632212

I don't know what you mean brother, but I'm on board with the OSSC. Believe You Me!

>>16632286

its fairly obvious you've never used one. hey if you want to play your games in RF on a Chinese no name crt from 1979 thats cool. some people like fake as fuck scan-lines on a 65" LCD. lets not be like tranny's and tell others they can't have a preference. I've tried it every way possible over the years. some stuff I play on a nice sony crt (in rgb), and other times I play on my HD monitor. I might use real hardware or some type of emulator. I just want the best possible experience (for me).

>>16632354

A Sony GDM-FW900 PC crt could do 2K resolutions (its a 16:10 crt)

>>16632360

>old PC games expected to be squished to fit into 4:3.

don't you mean old games in general? on some tittles the artists fucked up the ratio for 4:3 but I think thats rare.

>>16632338

Brother, you couldn't catch me dead usin' one of those Cathode Ray Tubes! I'm all about CRISP CLEAR PIXELS!

>>16633276

I'm sorry anon, I have to filter you now (full bilinear + Super 2×SaI) it's the only way you'll understand.

>>16635098

>>16635911

You should really research what the ossc does before freaking out. The scanline function is really just an afterthought. It's a modern-day line multiplier, has zero input lag With complete RGB and component video support at at full 4:4:4 processing (do you even understand why that's important?) along with a 15-pin d-sub for VGA sources. Modern displays are getting rid of their analog ports, That's just one of the many issues the ossc solves for people that need a digitizer. I'm really surprised at all the dumb comments saying the OSSC is just a filter/scanline machine. If that was the case it wouldn't cost over two hundred bucks. you could just get a $20 GBS board and Flash it with custom firmware if you wanted cheap digital scan lines

>>16635075

>>16635803

If you want other types of filters outside of the three scanline settings then you have to download a custom firmware for it. You should check the Forum at video games Perfection to get all the details.

>>16638841

>I'd love a CRT if I had space for one at the moment

Is this your apartment?

>>16638895

>me spend $200 make old console look like emulator because me cant afford $40 teevee

Thanks grug, very cool.

>>16638895

>>16638912

CRT Niggers, how stupid is a flat screen CRT? buying pic-related

>>16638921

>>16638998

if you know how to adjust the geometry settings it shouldn't be a problem. (some times you need to find the hidden repair menu to fix it. most CRTs have these even PC crt's, I had to do this with an NEC-Mitsubishi Diamond Plus VGA monitor last year) also, only some resolutions might be effected along with some sync settings. for instance if you set it to 640x480 and you see this problem with normal H-V- sync give the other sync types a try. (I've seen that fix the problem on some DEL VGA monitors without much fuss)

• H+V+ Positive Hsync and Positive Vsync

• H+V- Positive Hsync and Negative Vsync

• H-V+ Negative Hsync and Positive Vsync

• H-V- Negative Hsync and Negative Vsync

>>16639371

>Couldn't I just get a retrotink instead? composite is really all I need.

sure, (composite, S-video, and component are all supported by the retrotink2x)

>What makes this warrant the hefty price-tag?

why does nobody just go to the OSSC site and look up what it does? anyway the FPGA the OSSC uses is a much more powerful processor then whats in the retrotink. retrotink only outputs 480p. (as its only a basic line doubler) also it can't process or pass-thru other 480p signals like xbox, gamecube, wii or ps2. since all you care about is composite video that shouldn't mater much to you. you want to make sure you're getting the latest RetroTINK-2X hardware version with updated firmware (as its a pain in the ass to update on your own). older versions have some very annoying bugs with sound sampling. (I use my RetroTINK-2X mostly for N64 s-video, and my OSSC for everything else RGB/Component/VGA)