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6371a0  No.16616704

I was looking through the e3 trailers and when it go to state of decay/state of an early access game sold at retail i wondered why we always see certain times of games over others beyond fads.

If this case state of decay is giving you a shitty open world map and its full of zombies and you use npcs to build up a little base and defend it.

But why do these games always have to be that?

Imagine a game thats a modern day open map like gta or the division or any of these zambambo games. But its fine. Shits great and will be great. Until it isn't.

Think about a game where you are responsible for ensuring the end of the world plague doesnt ruin your town. You close borders. You think up chekpoints, disease combating and control. Maintain clean water and power and everytime you fuck up maybe at 2am little timmy wakes up to find daddy is eating mommy and both spread to the neighbouring houses because daddy was bitten by something that got through a gap in the stream you use for water. Maybe this time you send in the posse and you contain it. Maybe you dont and a whole section of town is lost and you pull back to either retake it later or cut your losses.

The sort of game where hard choices about survival can lead to a shining utopia as the rest of the nation falls or its reduced to a few small groups barely hanging on as the town is all ruins.

There are games from the other side. Stubbs the Zombie has a single undead turn people he bites who go off and turn people they bite to turn a 1950's retro futurist utopia into an undead riddled nightmare and some stuff like Prototype kind of let you clean a place up to a degree, but where are the games where you manage avoiding becoming another apocalyptic shithole for the survival crafting meme?

0935f2  No.16616719

The thing that really pisses me off about Zombie games is that none of them are actually set during the start of the outbreak and the actual collapse of society. It's just "everything's already fucked, but you've survived up to now". Soyny Cinematic Experiences™ relating to zombies always have the prologue set during the collapse, but then timeskip to later and it infuriates me to no end.


6371a0  No.16616745

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>>16616719

developers: its easy to shit off textures and drop weeds everywhere and its meant to look back, also no people and only zambis is super easy ai to run*

consumers: just give me the opening of the dawn of the dead remake for like 8-10 hours


27a971  No.16616748

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Yeah, if only there was a game like that.


f66c89  No.16616752

>>16616748

>gimmicky walking simulator

that barely counts.


87c69d  No.16616766

>>16616704

>Games about preventing viral outbreaks

Patient Zero DLC in HI™AN is about doing exactly that, especially last mission where you can actually fuck up and end up with over a hundred people infected.


6ad528  No.16616786

Any games about killing communists.


6371a0  No.16616807

>>16616766

I got hitman 2 and the legacy pack, is it in there? last i played i think i got to the redneck terrorist compound.


87c69d  No.16616818

>>16616807

it's part of the goy of the year for legacy.


87c69d  No.16616842

>>16616807

>redneck terrorist compound.

It's actually a diverse multicultural militia who's pro-choice.


6371a0  No.16616851

>>16616842

If you are outside of Portland and wearing flannel in CY+X then you are a redneck.


839d82  No.16616856

>>16616851

You could have just described a hipster though


6371a0  No.16616863

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>>16616856

You mean ironic rednecks.


861684  No.16616865

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>>16616786

>Any games about killing communists.

yes?


559667  No.16617091

>>16616719

Because if you saw things during the outbreak, it'd be ridiculous. You can sort of suspend disbelief when you cut ahead, past the initial outbreak and into the post-apocalyptic side of things. It'd be real easy to lock down a zombie virus. Soldiers kitted out in thick gear so they can't be scratched or bitten, face masks to prevent any fluids from entering their mouths, eyes, nose etc. House to house, killing the zombies and sending the survivors into quarantine camps.


00d5ea  No.16617109

>>16617091

A Jagged Alliance or Xcom style game where you play that instead of yet another urban hiking simulator actually sounds pretty neat but that would require some effort so don't count on it.


6064ce  No.16617177

>>16616704

Sounds fun as fuck, but what I want more is games where you can play as the zombie like Stubb's. Seriously, there is a decent amount of things you can do with zombies but every fucking developer and their mother has to do the same survival game. It's tiring. Dead Rising, Stubbs the Zombie, and Left 4 Dead are perfect examples of zombie games that are different and funand also some of my favorite games.


cf5d45  No.16617183

>>16617091

>game starts small, with you controlling two police officers that get called to a scene

>kill one to three on the first mission

>next you're controlling three against six at a diner

>then three against 13 at a houseparty gone awry, but it's still easy if you're not retarded

>fights get progressively larger in scale as the infection spreads up until there's too many and the game switches from clearing out places to just trying to hold them off for X amount of time or fight a delaying battle so Y amount of people can evacuate

Sounds fun


ddf040  No.16617205

Command and Conquer: Red Alert


0935f2  No.16617210

>>16617091

It was pretty alright in the World War Z book, the only issue is you'd have to have an army that either isn't well equipped enough, or gets overconfident, since they're just zombies, then proceeds to eat shit. Shit man, you could absolutely make a zombie game set during the fall of society in some rural province of southern Europe or China, or god forbid Africa.

>>16617177

I still think the first State of Decay game is great, since they didn't go all out on "muh realism" and "muh food/water bars", while having a comfy world and good combat.


a15550  No.16617313

Atom Zombie Smasher is a game where you play as the government fighting an outbreak and saving civilians. It is pretty decent and well worth a pirate. (dev went faggy during GG)

Anyway, the reason you don’t see it often is that zombie apocalypse shit is just a normalfag power fantasy. They rather be ruffing it out with there friends than be a cog in a machine saving society. That and devs/publishers don’t have the balls to go against trends.


87c69d  No.16617338

>>16616719

>Soyny Cinematic Experiences™ relating to zombies always have the prologue set during the collapse

The Lust of Ass opening is fucking retarded, because Joel and his daughter are suburbanites, killed 1 neighbor and could've stayed at home, instead they took a cinematic trip, got stuck in a traffic jam, and then went into urban area for no fucking reason, then evil fascist ICE army started shooting.

And to this day I don't know the goals or ideological motivations of the fireflies


0935f2  No.16617355

>>16617338

>fireflies

It's funny, because the multiplayer mode the best part of that game lets you play as Hunters or Fireflies, and has a brief description for both when you're picking a side. For hunters, it's something along the lines of "murderers, looters, ambushers who live in the abandoned cities, preying on travelers and etc. etc.." and for the Fireflies it's "They're rebels against the gubmint and they rebel against the gubmint and shit".


f9b252  No.16617553

>>16616865

Imagine a game thats a modern day open map like gta or the division or any of these commie killing games. But its fine. Shits great and will be great. Until it isn't.

Think about a game where you are responsible for ensuring the communism doesnt ruin your town. You close borders. You think up chekpoints, RWDS. Maintain clean water and power and everytime you fuck up maybe at 2am little timmy wakes up to find daddy is giving mommy a Che Guevara shirt and both spread to the neighbouring houses because daddy was bitten by a commie that got through a gap in the stream you use for water. Maybe this time you send in the posse and you contain it. Maybe you dont and a whole section of town is lost and you pull back to either retake it later or cut your losses.


429bf5  No.16617581

>>16617553

>gives mommy a Che Guevara shirt

Made me chuckle a little. Still I've been seeing a steady decline of those Che shirts being sold where cheap Chinese crap shirts are typically sold. Last time I passed I visited a Chinatown esque place there was maybe one shop that had them.


87c69d  No.16617594

>>16617581

>not wearing a che guevara t-shirt to celebrate a charismatic man who was personally executing faggots


1b41c5  No.16617618

>>16617091

Heavy armor wouldn't do shit against an airborne infection as seen in gakkou gurashi, and you just know there's always gonna be that one (((asshole))) who purposefully spreads the virus in order to sell the cure. As seen in the prototype games.


c35c39  No.16617647

>>16617618

>prototype game had a cure this whole time and they didn't do anything

……..

God fucking damn, its actually a more realistic depiction that way


73a46c  No.16618502

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>>16617210

>world war Z

>a book where all the Americans die because they didn't blindly trust and give all their guns to the government and still actually believe in stupid things like god in the CURRENT YEAR

>a book where the Americans have to run away on rafts to Cuba because people in Cuba trust their government and don't believe in god so the zombies can't get them

>written by someone who thinks a halberd can't penetrate an unarmored human skull unless you drive the spear tip of it through an eye socket

>written by someone who couldn't make the cursory second of research to see that the M16 can take a bayonet but not like that would matter because its American so its bad because fuddlore

>written by someone who believes the best gun for the zombie apocalypse is a Kar98k because its bolt action which means it can hit them in the head, unlike auto loaders which simply cannot ever hit someone who is walking at you slowly in the head and if you tried it yourself you would probably just end up killing yourself on accident. Zero mention on where you would even find 8mm Mauser in that situation ether.

>written by someone who simply states handguns are an American icon so therefore also worthless and you will probably accidentally kill yourself with one too if you ever tried to use one

>written by someone who has never even seen the back of a fucking ambulance and believes cars honest to god explode when they hit a tree

That fucking book is a leftypol fanfiction in the same vane as that other story about some valiant revolutionists making a communist bunker in THE EVERGLADES where they manage to recruit all the farmers to their cause by burning down all of their property and then ship in tanks from Cuba via a town who's only naval infrastructure is a marina built for private sailboats.

>>16617618

NBC suits are a very real piece of equipment and even if you try to say they wouldn't stop bites, which is false because they are built to go through a fucking war without puncturing, armored vehicles would also have NBC systems rendering them immune to the plague. Dead rising really does the whole thing in the most believable way where there are only outbreaks that are contained and then eliminated after complete encirclement.

>>16617647

>why contain it?

The conduit had a mysterious zombie plague made by the deepstate Illuminati put in the water supply to create soldiers to help stage their fake ayy lamo invasion that they would then use as a political set piece as they killed all the ayys to grant themselves more power.


00d5ea  No.16618516

>>16618502

>the M16 can take a bayonet but not like that would matter because its American so its bad because fuddlore

The fuck does this even mean? The only M16 infamy I'm aware of is that they apparently jammed a lot in Vietnam, which no shit it was a new weapon used in a climate it wasn't tested for to fight a war that was a planned loss.


132b68  No.16618519

I think the story in Dying Light was somewhat like this. Play play as an agent sent to the quarantined city to help research the virus, and in the end it turns out the government wants to weaponize it instead of creating a cure.


020dd7  No.16618528

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>>16618502

>leftypol fanfiction in the same vane as that other story about some valiant revolutionists making a communist bunker in THE EVERGLADES where they manage to recruit all the farmers to their cause by burning down all of their property and then ship in tanks from Cuba via a town who's only naval infrastructure is a marina built for private sailboats.

That was a great read.


018733  No.16618579

Warcraft 3 human campaign.

Starcraft 2, SOME missions.

They are Billions (the whole game).


73a46c  No.16618587

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>>16618516

The issues with the M16 came from the kikes at the Springfield armory being assblasted the private sector was replacing the designed by committee abortion known as the M14 and made sure adoption of the M16 was done as cheaply as possible. Because of this, they used the wrong type of gunpowder in the first batch of 5.56x45 which didn't burn correctly in the case's dimensions which lead to excessive fouling which was compounded by cleaning kits not being issued as when used with the correct powder, the M16 could be run with only an oilier bottle kit to blow out the small bits of carbon build up.

The issue with the incorrect powder and lack of cleaning kits lasted literally a month in the beginning of the war, but because of the communist sympathizing press and the M14 lobbyists it ended up being blown way out of proportion and immortalized as some colossal catastrophe that was directly to blame on the rifle itself and not the congressmen that wanted it to fail so they could make a buck working at the state run armory after they retired from public office.

The book "zombie survival guide" makes retarded claims such as the M16 being impossible to field strip when it inevitably jams, and that the sight can only be adjusted by the tip of a pen which you will lose. Look at any video on how to field strip an AR and notice how its just one take down pin to push and everything slides out. The sight thing is also retarded because one: that specific kind of carry handle sight was dropped with the M16A2 in 1983, and two: that kind of sight with the pin hole dial is supposed to be used with the tip of a cartridge. The thought of it being that if you don't have a spare bullet to adjust your sights then you shouldn't need to adjust them because you can't shoot at whatever you're aiming at. It was written by someone who simply did not WANT to do any research and wanted to write his little fantasy that confirmed all of his biases. Oh and the book sucked off the AK-47 as the only semi auto you should ever try to use against zombies because "muh unstoppable tank rifle" meme.


00d5ea  No.16618614

>>16618587

For some reason I misread that as "the M16 can't take a bayonet" so yeah, this stuff isn't news to me. If that book you're talking about is the one I think it is then holy shit yes it's retarded. I remember a chapter about how the best way to kill hordes of zombies would be to get a bunch of guys prone in the bed of an electric pickup, because fuel makes too much noise you see, with no mention of barricades, positioning or anything actually tactical. It's like the guy thought a zombie onslaught would play out like a random battle in a JRPG.


00d5ea  No.16618619

>>16618614

Forgot to mention the guys in the truck would all be using bolt action rifles because apparently a weapon that requires a bit of elbow room to operate optimally is the one of choice when you're packed with 3 other guys like a can of sardines. Jesus Christ even as a teenager that shit sounded dumb to me.


73a46c  No.16618628

>>16618614

The book explicitly states that the M16 cannot mount a bayonet. 200% fucktarded. Also the part where he says that you can drive a motorcycle through a hoard no problem but not an SUV.




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