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Faery > Charlotte though

Nice to see it looked like they actually put some effort into this one and it's even funnier to see Square of all fucking companies looking like they're actually improving.

>>16598070

>>16598148

Two posts in an already so much truth.

I'd never played this series but after seeing the previews for this I finally got around to playing Final Fantasy Adventure, I'm having a lot of fun with it. Looking forward to playing the rest.

>>16598158

>I liked it a lot but i don't see why they couldn't have made a new game rather than a remake

Consider two things.

>SD3 technically never left Japan commercially

>All Mana games following it have been drastically inferior to it

Two perfectly valid reasons to remake it.

It looks good but i got two problems with it

>First boss looks way too easy with how little hp the boss got.

>Game look more generic gameplay wise. With the red circles from bosses and everything else, gameplay looks too similar to stuff like Tales or the party based YS games. It dont look bad however. Overall i am looking forward to playing the remake, but i really hope the remixes of the ost will be great.

>>16598158

That's not an accent, it's a lisp.

The gameplay looked pretty good, I'm probably gonna get it. Did they say there's a PC release or is it just switch/ps4?

Legend of mana remake when?

>>16598214

A lisp is just a retard accent.

>>16598148

The fairy is cute, so I'm ok with your tastes.

Porn soon, considering several fairy-centric artists have gotten interests in her.

>>16598158

>Squeenix doing their shitty practice of accents in subtitles already

Looks fine to me, it panders to my fetishes.

>>16598212

They used 3 characters, the game is actually much easier like this last I remember.

>>16598214

https://store.steampowered.com/app/924980/TRIALS_of_MANA/

>>16598070

I played this game like ten gorillion years ago so I barely remember any of it, but one thing that got burned into my memory is that Angela's dark side was utter irredeemable shit, so I hope they fix that.

>>16598261

Aw yiss, hopefully the port isn't shitty

>>16598273

It's squeenix so it's guaranteed to be a shit port because it will have Denuvo.

a bit bummed the collection isn't on pc. sure, I can emulate it, but still…

>>16598285

Pirating the game doesn't get rid of Denuvo, iťs still running in the background collecting foreskins and doing all kinds of Jewish things.

I'm happy about the remake, but also bitter that they went through all the trouble of making a decent localization for the original and then didn't fix the crippling bugs that made two core stats useless. I reinstalled Sin of Mana out of frustration.

Also I hope they have dual audio in the Western release because man the voices in the Secret of Mana remake were dogshit.

>>16598285

Minigirls want to get lewded though, its just that the D is too powerfull for them.

>>16598296

>I know next to nothing about cracks and Denuvo

Cracking (not pirating, you fucking retarded) depends on how Denuvo was implemented.

Some cracks simply remove or block the code that starts Denuvo in the first place so nothing happens. Others just complete whatever validation it's looking for so it counts as legit and still run.

There has been plenty of games that get a better performance with a cracked copy specifically because Denuvo stops running with a crack, it all depends on how lazy companies are with implementing that shit. I recall there was a company that did it so badly it didn't even require any crack other than the Steamworks part.

>>16598359

No crack so far has removed Denuvo, the performance differences have been with leaked executables without Denuvo.

>>16598229

Isn't the character in question an actual retard?

>>16598389

>type "seiken_densetsu_3" into any booru

>95% of the art is Riesz

>>16598466

She's apparently a half-elf, which means she has the body and mind of a 5 year old even though she's 15. Supposedly they age slower.

>>16598209

>>All Mana games following it have been drastically inferior to it

SD3 was fucking awful. A step down from SD2 in gameplay and Legend of Mana on PS1 surpassed it in every way.

>>16598070

Square Enix has very consistently fucked every remake and port it has released so far in the latest 10 years, Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana why do you think this would be an exception?

>>16598070

Riesz is the superior Mana heroine anon. She's even Nipon's official waifu.

>>16598158

It has nip voices, if you can't understand what they're saying by now, it's your fault.

>>16598285

That's for Japan anon, minigirls get lewded very much here. Might I refer you to Zimmerman's Tinkerbell collection?

If anything, the gameplay looks fine and they even have shortcuts for the SP using attacks. Hope they keep the costume changes from the class changes.

>>16598522

>costume changes

I hope they'll make all the classes with costumes accurate to the sprite art on the menu

>>16598524

If they hadn't released Collection, this would have been the first western release of the game though. It's not a remake to 99% of the world population.

That said I don't give a fuck about things being remakes or not, as long as they lead to more fairy/minigirl porn.

>>16598516

>a step down from SD2

>SD2, where charge attacks are so slow past lv1 they're useless and you can stunlock bosses to death with magic spam

yeah nah, it was filled with bugs sure, but the overall game is still better (also has a pretty good mod that fixes most of those things and adds difficulty)

>I can't be alone to be happy to see Seiken Densetsu 3

allow me end with your happiness

>angela sorcess special has he showing her buut towards enemies

>Current year SE is remaking this game.

you do the math

>>16598606

>giving a shit about worst girl

Will they keep the reference to Duran's porn collection?

>>16598616

>not giving a shit about censorship

>>>cuckchan

>>16598634

Stop being a cuck. Square Enix won't censor your slut.

>>16598266

> Angela's dark side was utter irredeemable shit

her dark dark or dark light had the most powerfull spells of the game (ancient and death)

but yes her first dark form is pure ass.

>>16598636

>doesnt care about censorship

>calls me a cuck

>believes that SE will not fuck it up somehow

your post just gave me cancer

>>16598521

Well this one actually looks good. You could tell their other ports/remakes were shit just by looking at them.

I liked the new Secret of Mana remake. This should be good too. Hope they fix all the bugs (shields, evasion etc…)

>>16598668

I'm hoping there's no "bugs" to fix since this is a completely new engine and not a port

>>16598684

What adorable onaholes.

>>16598606

>the jail scene where Angela is the third character

>she waves her thong-wearing ass at a furry beastman and there is even audible spanking noises on the SNES synth

Yeah I think we can probably say good bye to that.

>>16598684

i think my eyes must not be working

do you see any of those girls butt?

because i dont

>>16598684

Anon, I really hope you did not just admit that you found those obese children with downs cute or enticing.

>>16598684

Lalafells are what you get if you take lolis and remove everything sexual about them.

>>16598693

Are you telling me you wouldn't love your loli waifu if she became fat?!

>>16598694

wrong. They are the definition of sexual

>>16598706

>>16598706

It's like a kid playing dress up with her mama's clothes. Those outfits are meant for the other races.

Anyone who played the Secret of Mana remake on the PS4 or Vita can tell you it was a garbage fire. Yes, from preliminary footage, this looks to be fine, but we don't have it in ours hands

>>16598689

One of Charlotte's specials has an acompanying ass-smack in the Treehouse game.

>>16598711

Explain to me why I'm getting so hard looking at this picture? And imagine her ass.

>>16598714

To be fair SoM remake looked really bad even on prerelease.

>>16598723

>I can't wet Heath

That sounded lewd. Also it's lolicon-pandering. I like it, because it makes her sound super cunning.

>>16598716

I'll have to watch the trailer again later, then. I hold out some modicum of hope because this is the most beloved game of the trilogy in Japan, so hopefully the dutiful otaku will keep SE in check, but I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt after the trash heap that was the SoM remake and considering the current cultural climate.

>>16598718

You're attracted to fat retarded children.

Square has a looooot of work ahead of them to get my interest after the dumpster fire that is the SD2 remake. The teaser trailer makes the remake seem passable so far by what appears to be the long awaited combat overhaul that replaces ring menus with full real-time game play. I like that. But the key phrase is still "So far."

>>16598714

Why was it garbage? I liked it.

>>16598739

Voices were shit, music was shit, and they literally skimped on graphical effects that were in the original SNES game, off the top of my head.

>>16598746

I like both. And Lyns too.

Not like there's any better races in FF14, everything else has gigantic tits.

>>16598743

>Voices were shit

I'd say average.

>music was shit

Some of it, most was good to me.

Sounds like you guys just hate your old favorites being remade. I get that many remakes have been fucked up (Duke World Tour, HOMM3 HD…), no reason to get so cynical though.

>>16598743

>music was shit

I really hope they don't fuck up the music with this game. It has such a great soundtrack.

>>16598752

Nah, I was genuinely looking forward to the remake, and when I started listening to the way they did the music I preferred the original MIDI. SoM/SD2 and SD3 have the best MIDI synth soundtracks of just about any game in my opinion. However I did like the orchestral arrangement of Prime Meridian in the trailer

>>16598756

The Trials of Mana trailer*

Top tier:

Ritz > Charlotte > X

Ritz > Hawkeye > Duran support

Ritz > Werewolf > any support

Werewolf > Hawkeeye > any support

Mid tier:

anything with angela

low tier:

anything with angela with no support

>>16598753

>>16598281

Denuvo doesn't mean the port is bad, it just means the game is free

>>16598746

>First image

>Sexy loli butt and thighs right in front of him

>He takes a picture of her face

This is the power of true love.

Seems decent enough, hope they don't butcher the music like they did with the secret of mana 1 remake they did.

>>16598723

She speaks with a lisp, they tried to convey that in english but it was just bad

>>16598734

She doesn't speak in third person in the Japanese text there.

>>16598860

The music seems faithful from this preview, though it's kinda hard to hear above the people talking.

>>16598972

Yeah, they seem to be using remastered versions of the original songs, way better than the horrible garbage remixes they used on the first one.

Just hope the regional pricing is not stupid like the first one was here where i live, the first one was 200+ bucks

I might buy something from Square after all these years, 2019 is being a wild ride.

>>16598070

Is this cute blonde girl actually a girl? I tried secret of mana and the playable toddler character ended up being some sort of genderless dwarf most likely male so i dropped it, heard it was a shit remake anyway.

>>16599132

Yes

>>16599132

Charlotte is a girl, since you can choose among 3 boys and 3 girls for your trio. The pixie from SoM never had any official gender even in the old Japanese release because it's fairie folk and like 3 feet tall. I'm just thankful SE referred to the pixie as "they" rather than some made up millenial pronoun like the moogles in Type-0

>>16599195

WHAT DID I TELL YOU LAST TIME MINIFAG

THIS IS A BIG GIRL NEIGHBORHOOD, KEEP MOVIN

>>16598214

>That's not an accent, it's a lisp.

That's not a lisp, it's rhotacism, also known as Elmer Fudd syndrome.

>>16599211

Who is the guy who does all these?

>>16598759

>Mid tier:

>anything with angela

It's depressing once you realize that attack magic is objectively worse than physical damage making her fucking useless. Moreso once you realize how fucking powerful Duran and Kevin are, put those two with a support and the game is fucked. I really hope this remake rebalances things.

>>16599366

It's not like the game is hard enough to need a perfect team. I just go with the characters I like the best.

>>16599351

lalas are for potato fetishists, duh

>>16599351

The pudgy and jutting stomach (like your sample) always turns me off.

>>16599390

This is unsettling in a way I can't explain

>>16599399

The Germans claim the same myth.

Probably just that, a myth.

>>16598849

10/10 OST.

>>16599366

By the time you're done casting your big damage spell Duran and werewolf Kevin are already doing twice the damage with their elemental buffed weapons while throwing out supers left and right.

>>16599368

Gets even easier when you realize Lv2/3 supers make certain enemies counter with their own supers. Especially important for the ninja bosses.

>>16598705

>>16599366

They kind of have to balance Kevin. He's overpowered from the very beginning and stays overpowered, even if you go for his shittier classes. Or they could go whole hog and just make everyone fucking overpowered, including the enemies.

>Ultimate gamebreaking party

>Warrior Monk Kevin

>Ninja Master Hawkeye

>Star Lancer Riesz

I never gave Duran much of a play though, to the point that I think I never used him as Duelist.

>>16598830

>Also Angela felt weak just with how spells in this game worked.

Maybe, I always found her rather dissapointing in her spells until she hits Rune Master (Tier 3 spells with status ailments like silence and petrify).

What would it take to make Angela not suck guys?

>>16599445

Once a slut, always a slut.

>>16599368

True, i usually put them on teams based on what route i was doing as it often led to more dialogue.

>>16599427

>I never gave Duran much of a play though, to the point that I think I never used him as Duelist.

I still consider him to be the most overall useful character in the game as he hits/tanks like a truck while having a ton of utility no matter which class you pick. Also the objective best team was Duran Hawkeye Kevin taken down their dark/dark classes for pure stats as any spell except i think debuffs could be replicated with black market items.

>>16599445

Removing the 999 damage cap, more options to restore mana so you can justify using it on trash mobs. The whole select spell from menu and watch semi slow animation play out in the time it would take a melee char to clear the screen thing is likely going away in this remake fortunately.

>remake Seiken Densetsu 3

>but don't bring back the multiplayer and finally adding official 3 player

What's the fucking point

>>16599434

Yeah, go take a look at the readme. It's fuckhuge of changes

>>16599506

it's square enix

>>16599506

Well the original you just had two people moving sprites over a static screen, I guess it's more complicated with 3D camera angles and such.

>all these faggots calling Angela a slut

She's a virgin you autists. She just acts out sometimes because of her mommy issues.

>>16599525

>Well the original you just had two people moving sprites over a static screen, I guess it's more complicated with 3D camera angles and such.

You're a dumb fuck whose timer would be better spend killing himself than guessing as to why jews act like jews.

>>16599525

Camera means fuckall to online multiplayer

>>16598070

I played this game on emu long, long ago and was never a big fan. Felt grossly inferior to SoM in all areas but graphics.

>>16598158

She does stereotypical baby talk in Japanese replacing sh with ch.

>>16598070

The secret of Mana remake was so bad I can't be bothered to care. I was dumb enough to get the physical copy, a goyimstop exclusive. The game had two patches by the time I got around to playing it, and it froze up every 30 minutes or so.

>>16600249

>s there some sort of method to check whether or not my rom is patched 100% correctly

If there's a readme or other documentation, does it include a sha/crc/md5 hash of what a properly patched file using it should be if you run a check? You might also see if there's one for the base game file used, as some patches are made with specific dumps or versions in mind.

>>16598545

SD2 was an actual action game

The way to use charge attacks was to let your other party members charge them and then switch to them.

In SD3 all enemies hard track your character like its a tab targetting MMO. The entire game is level scaled and mid way through the game enemies get full screen special attacks with no charge time that they can string them together to stun lock you them moment you enter a room even when they are offscreen

Then you have attack spells which are fucking useless on bosses as every boss has a built in instant special attack counter when you attack it with spells.

Its an awful game that was only propped by scalpers and hipsters because it never got a US release. Secret of Evermore is a much better game.

>>16600249

>zsnes

Please don't, at least use snes9x

>>16600249

>zsnes

while it was once the gold standard for speed and stability, it is now superseded by literally everything else

holy shit, Seiken Densetsu 3 actually had an english name

>>16600355

they gave it an english name just recently

>>16600350

Easiest way to check if the patch applied is to start with Duran and see if you can hold B to run while in battle. If you can, it's working (since you can't do that in vanilla). check the ngplus forum where the hack is hosted if you need troubleshooting

>>16600324

don't forget the wait times when you wanted to chain special attacks or spells making normal attacks do better damage than charge attacks or spells.

It really played like a shittier slower FF12 instead of an action game.

>>16600438

I'd advise against playing on the default (hard) difficulty on your first run unless you're a man, the .zip comes with 5 difficulty patches. "normal" and even "easy" would still be harder than vanilla

>>16600456

>I'd advise against playing on the default (hard) difficulty on your first run unless you're a man

Who the hell do you think I am? I'll smash this shit to pieces even on their special snowflake difficulty. With the power of autistic grinding, if need be.

>>16598209

SD3 sucked balls, especially compared to SoE. They should be remaking that one instead.

>>16600483

>thinks grinding will save him

Xp scales according to the difference between your level and the enemy's, so no easy grinding on weaklings. It's more about selecting the right equipment/classes for the right situations. Also, the endgame expects you to be at max level anyway The starting armor actually gives a huge xp boost for the party but its defenses are shit

>>16600513

>Xp scales according to the difference between your level and the enemy's

I did see that. It won't stop me. I'm born and raised on JRPG autism runs through my veins.

>>16600531

Good luck then, but you will actually start getting 0 exp if you overlevel too much IIRC

>>16598734

That doesn't even imply childishness. People refer to both themselves and the person they're talking to in third person all the time in moonspeak.

>Seiken Densetsu 3 never came overseas

It's overseas now, someone's already extracted the official translation from the collection released on switch.

>>16600543

Snes9x has that one true widescreen hack and mode 7 or whatever the fuck it's called, that makes every other SNES emulator out there pretty much obsolete.

>>16600582

that was ported from bsnes

>>16599293

>>16599351

Nah lalafells are really just for people who want some dfc. They're the closest to a kid-like race in ff14 which is why people who draw porn of them are always loli artists.

>>16600264

Snes9x didn't exist before 2004. I myself played SD3 fan-translated in 2001 or 2002. Back then Zsnes was really one of the only way to play snes emulation. I haven't used zsnes again once I hears about snes9x though.

>>16599434

Not only it is rebalance, it also change equipment to be mostly sidegrade, some hits easier, other makes super attacks easier to build up… same for armors. And the bosses have actual strategies to be beaten, the God-Beasts in particular are going to obliterate you if you try to go for a mindless damage race

>>16600627

You sound very knowledgeable. Is Angela not shit? Everyone in the thread keeps pooping on her, but I would be pleased to know if casting was somehow balanced into goodlyness with the mod. I will main her regardless because she is the cutest though.

>>16599351

I like both and I manage to enjoy lalafells just fine.

>>16600632

It really depends… some bosses continue to counter spells, but with MP being regenerated at screen change, she can use spells as a basic attack, and can carry you out in some areas. There is also a path to remove spell animations to help make it more bearable before you think it is a chore. In fact depending on class and equipment, you can make spells instant

>>16598070

I think they'll fuck it up but I'll replay it in the meantime. I skipped Charlotte's route since she was fucking annoying.

>>16598684

Lalafells are the master race. They are what happens when perfection is born into the real world. Cat sluts and lizards for the gas chambers.

>>16600762

Oh and when you resurrect a character with Angel's Grail, it also fills their mana.

>>16600730

>I skipped Charlotte's route since she was fucking annoying

So you're a faggot.

>>16598070

Probably it's best to stick with playing the SNES version

>>16600856

so you're a loliturd.

>>16599422

They better not botch the remake ost.

>>16600952

If you looked through the thread you'd figured I'm a lolichad.

>>16600966

>>Anal peak

Is that the mountain you were conceived on?

>>16598229

Lisps often have no bearing on intelligence. Just look at Sseth or Isaac Arthur.

>>16598705

Furries are going to have a field day with Kevin r34

>>16601516

I wouldn't mind getting more cute kemono girls honestly speaking.

>>16598281

I'm pretty sure Limited Run is doing a physical release on the Switch, for what it's worth.

>>16598521

From what gameplay has been shown so far, it seems like it will be fine. The soundtrack remakes shown so far sound good. Only big issue I've seen so far is that there's no co-op in the remake.

>>16601706

>Only big issue I've seen so far is that there's no co-op in the remake.

There wasn't any in the original either

>>16601716

Yes there was.

>>16601854

Yeah, I remember using snes9x back on my old Win 95 PC. I vividly remember trying ALttP and watching the intro triforce move in slo-mo since my PC was too weak to emulate SNES

>>16601854

The problem of no official release made it hard to know about it.

>>16601706

That doesn't really solve the issue of the port's quality. Though it probably won't have Denuvo since Secret of Mana didn't either.

>>16600324

>In SD3 all enemies hard track your character like its a tab targetting MMO.

Thanks to the mod, you can run in combat so you can actually dodge those attacks and actually space yourself away from the enemy. I don't know why it was designed like that in the first place when it worked well in SoM.

>>16600656

The patch to remove animations lets you hold X to skip any animations (be it from you or from the enemie's spells/techs) as long as you start holding X while the spell name is displayed on the screen (before the actual animation starts). It really speeds things up a lot

>>16602028

I dunno mate, I didn't know about mIRC back then. English is not my language either, not to mention back then I had limited internet access through dialup. (basically 30 hours per month for like 60 euros?)

The SoM was awful. Why would the sequel be any better?

>>16602093

Yeh my country internet was fucking shit back then. So it was sadly not particularly easy to find stuff. I'm happy already I managed to find SD3 back then.

>>16602094

I don't usually get hopeful, but this one will have completely different gameplay instead of just porting the old game with shitty mobile graphics, so there's at least the benefit of doubt I guess.

>>16598346

Why did you spoil these

Wasn't there an interview in regards to Secret of Mana being on the Super Nintendo CD and having 4-discs worth of content? If its true, it's really sad that the SoM remake didn't capialize on that when it had the opportunity. I was thinking of pirating the game again but the few songs on the remake were absolutely atrocious. If any of you have played the remake, were there any major changes to it that make it a worthwhile playthrough, gameplay and story wise?

>>16602255

>>16602331

Nice clutch win. Don't forget you can level defensive stats to make some fights actually doable without relying on sheer luck like that have fun on Jewel Eater. I think poison from the first boss actually makes you take more damage from his holy ball too, but you can just spam grass. Try using the counterattack mechanic too to make things easier.

>if you have no healer

You can't have any healer at that point

>>16602384

>Wasn't there an interview in regards to Secret of Mana being on the Super Nintendo CD and having 4-discs worth of content?

Yeah, game was horribly cut down when they learned they weren't going to be using disks. Most of the cut content was used to make Chrono Trigger so making the game they intended to make would have just retread a lot of other content. Still a shame, it's pretty much the SNES Dragons Dogma.

>I was thinking of pirating the game again but the few songs on the remake were absolutely atrocious.

The remake has an option to use the original music, i switched to it right away.

>If any of you have played the remake, were there any major changes to it that make it a worthwhile playthrough, gameplay and story wise?

Your party actually talks with each other when you rest at an inn, giving them more personality. The translation is better on the grounds of not having to cut like 60% of it like the SNES original translation did. Weapons actually change appearance as you upgrade them. Mostly basic stuff, the remake isn't as good as it should be but its not really a huge fuckup either.

What are the best classes for each character in your opinion? It's been awhile since I played this game, but I remember the light classes usually being better than the dark ones. IIRC Duran's light light class was really good.

>>16602421

Duran's light class was gimped back in the original because shields didn't work as they should have. This was in the original and in the translated patch. If there was a fix, then you could use the light classes proper, but Duran was at his best with Dark-(any) because he has access to the four elemental sabers. If you went Dark-Light he also gets Moon and Leaf sabers on top of that. If you want sheer raw damage, then Dark-Dark for Duelist and the dark saber.

>>16602484

Another thing I loved about the Sin of Mana hack actually does is buff/fix shields and make them draw aggro, so you can actually kinda have a tank to help out your casters. Duran can equip it on all classes too, and even Lise can (but she can only use 3 shields)

>>16602412

This sounds like complete bullshit. Where are you getting this crap from besides out of your ass?

>>16602421

Depends on party make up and what route you're on. Like Durans Paladin class is great, but it would be a waste on a team with Angela and Charlotte where a Swordsmaster would be a lot more useful. Personal favorites however are:

Duran: Swordmaster, hit's hard while having amazing utility regardless of whether your party is melee or magic focused.

Kevin: Godhand, hits hard and aura wave. Not much else to say.

Hawkeye: This ones hard as his classes are all very different from each other. On the masked mage route Rogue is great for Silver Dart. Ninja Master is always good as stat downs are one of the few things i don't believe you can replicate with items. Wanderer had counter magic which totally destroys Koren and is worth seeing at least once. If i gotta pick, i'll say Rogue as i usually use Reize/Lise whatever for stat fuckery.

Angela: Rune Master for bosses, Magus for screen clearing. Since bosses are the most important fights in the game i say Rune Master. Her spells also give easy access to Silence and Petrify status on enemies which is fun.

Charlotte: On the masked mage route Turn Undead from Bishop does an easy 999 to all the undead you'll be fighting. Including the final boss. Otherwise i prefer her dark classes, Necromancer has a good general purpose debuff. Evil Shaman has a spell that debuffs magic and attacks, you can't go wrong with either. Never used Sage.

Reize: Star Lancer, multi target stat ups and a summon that silences. Pretty easy pick.

>>16598723

>>16598734

She uses '-chi' suffixes, including in her pronoun 'atachi'. The Elmer Fudd method of localization is fucking overblown to the point of being physically annoying to wead. If you know Spanish, I'd recommend playing that version instead. Some of her S sounds are replaced with Zs and she shortens some words ('mejó' instead of 'mejor') but it's readable and she doesn't talk like an idiot.

>>16602582

It's not a suffix, it's replacement of sh with ch. Defining feature of Japanese baby talk. It's infantile. It's supposed to sound infantile.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B9%BC%E5%85%90%E8%AA%9E

幼稚語

>/s/と/t/の交替 - 摩擦音→破裂音

>わたし（watasi）　→ あたち（atati）

>>16599427

buffed duran doing AoE physical attacks rapes everything and arguably best Aoe damage in whole game. Duran goes with charlote or ritz always unless he goes support.

Then again Kevin is overpowered so no point in going Duran if there's kevin unless you want them both for a completely broken run. Kevin/support Duran/Rits or Charlotte easy peasy

they're all good except Angela, basically.

>>16599445

Considering this is a remake that won't freeze time every time a spell is cast that alone buffs her by not making the game boring.

Lower spell mana cost, lower spell cast time or allow her to move while casting. make her specialize in AoE hitting weaknesses. Also make spells have positive externalities. Like burn DoTs or status effects making them more unique instead of just X damage with Y affinity

>>16602630

>using angela

there's your problem. You have no support unless you make Duran support. if you make duran support you need melee to back him up while casting. Angela brings nothing to the table.

>>16602630

>If a Lv1 tech hits an enemy shortly after they start their attack or cast a spell, you've performed a counter-attack which deals increased damage (depending on weapon).

Yeah, it does work. It isn't clear for me if it's after they start casting it or after they casted it (and after you took damage), so you might wanna test that.

Also, some enemies and most bosses have a counterattack that they'll use when you attack them enough times, misses included (each enemy has its own threshold for that). If you successfully counterattack them, you'll push that "hate" counter back a bit, and if you spam spells/screen freezing attacks/debuffs it'll fill up faster.

It's been a very long time since I've played this game but I never felt like Angela is useless. In fact I remember spells being quite useful in the game. Only thing that bothered me about the game was the bugs and the fact that you can't avoid enemy spells.

>>16598972

the gameplay looks good, hopefully its not shit.

>>16602539

Sage also looks the worst of her classes, so it really has nothing going with it. I'm thinking of playing her as Bishop, Evil Shaman and Necromancer in the 3 routes.

Is the plot of this game connected to the original Secret of Mana?

Or is it like Final Fantasy where each story is self-contained?

>>16603765

Looks a lil cheesy tbh

>>16604682

The stories take place in the same world but are mostly self-contained.

>>16604750

Thanks.

Not sure if you guys are interested in this, but a Secret of Mana hack came out a few months ago that removes the censorship of the original English release and has a significantly improved translation.

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4324/

>>16598695

I know nothing of SD3 and thus I assume this is the most lewd outfit it has–what else would they even be able to censor if this is the case?

Fairly dumb question, but how do I tech? Reading the official manual and various readme's says 'b' when you have at least 4 tech points, but every time I try my character sits there with a thumb up their ass and I get smacked around.

>>16606511

I think it's X. At least that's what it is for me. You can only do a tech when you're ready to attack. So when you're not ready, then move away from the opponent so you won't be hit often.

>>16606599

>>16606522

are you sure it's not this:

*if the Chibikko Hammer does not work on you, e.g. for the quest line, make sure you are not immune to the chibikko state or suffer from a different ailment

found it on the readme of the hack.

If it's not, then try this ROM i put on the vola, it's the only ROM i found that worked with the hack, all others made the sprites look all garbled.

https://volafile.org/r/vg

>>16606522

>>16606599

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4qqphciae11dgxr/Seiken%20Densetsu%203%20%28Japan%29%20%5BEn%20by%20LNF%2BNeill%20Corlett%2BSoM2Freak%20v1.01%5D.sfc.7z?dl=0

There ya go, it's the one I use, Also nice double dubs

>>16606520

>>16606498

Go to 22:44. I doubt it will be censored.

>>16606843

I'm not even sure why he thinks Square would censor the game.

>>16606972

What game is that?

>>16606989

Bravely Default Second

>>16606972

Technically, Nintendo censored that. The JP versions of Bravely Default were released completely uncensored because SE published it themselves. The global release was published by Nintendo, and that's when censorship reared its ugly head. On a related note, it's fucking amazing how many people are desperately trying to memory hole the censorship of this series so that knowledge of its existence doesn't break the "Based Nintendo has never, ever censored a third party game!" narrative being thrown around lately.

>>16606992

Well, that was Nintendo.

>>16606997

The problem is that Sony is forcing Japanese devs to censor themselves, retard. And we're talking about games not even published by Sony. Nobody has ever denied that Nintendo of America is shit, only cucks play localizations anyway.

>>16605939

Played it on release. The text reads a little better but it's honestly not much different. And they erased square's logo from the title and replaced it with their own.

>>16608654

>they erased square's logo from the title

That's some real scummy shit. Reminds me of pokemon Prism, where the people who picked it up when it was released and did a few bugfixes removed the name of the original romhacker who spent years working on it and made 99% of what's in there.

Nothing but faggots looking to take credit for someone else's work.

>>16608056

The first boss is easy mode with 3 characters.

>>16606599

It is several years since i last played SD3. But Sins of Mana sounds cool here

http://ngplus.net/index.php?/files/file/28-seiken-densetsu-3-sin-of-mana/

Is it worth replaying with that mod? Also should i pick second hardest or hardest difficulty as a first run?

>>16611372

And what kind of bonuses do the gear have?

>>16611380

Lot of different shit, most are sidegrades so there's a lot of options instead of just buying everything at each new shop. Money is also pretty scarce unless you grind a lot so you gotta make some choices. the only bad part is that the guy couldn't possibly insert all the info about which gear does what in the game so you need to keep checking the excel sheet for that

>>16611372

>Is it worth replaying

You bet, it's a completely different game. Start on default/hardest, you can patch the different difficulties in at any time without losing progress if you find it's too difficult for you faggot

>>16606520

>>16606843

Seeing the loli clown slap her butt is reassuring, but is there a chance some cuck will alter it later on? I'm very grateful that resetera is eating itself at the moment, because this is exactly the kind of content they would contaminate.

>>16611429

I'd honestly not suggest Hardest as a starting point. With friends, sure, but the AI doesn't know how to deal with bosses here

>>16610894

No it wasn't, shut up. Hawkeye is the worst of the melee damage dealers, and both Charlotte and Angela are next to useless without magic and eat up my item reserves.

Things are now running smoothly with magic, but I'm thinking about dropping a difficulty tier. The enemies hit too hard for no reason, and since I main Angela it's like I've got an additional handicap. Is it even possible to open the command ring for myself/others while charging up spells? It doesn't seem like it, and if not I'm definitely dropping down a rung.

>>16611526

You indeed cannot open an action ring when on a character during casting preparation. And I think you can't switch character either

>>16611545

Do get used to this. Nothing worse than having your played character put to sleep / frozen / petrified and be automatically put on another active character mid action. Happens as that new character was casting a spell? Good luck healing up before it is too late. But do note too. AI do have an evasion bonus, so there are rare edge case were you want to switch around to help an ally survive

>>16611774

So this is the power of Nintendo.

>>16600761

>Lalas are plenty sexy.

<Only one of the five images has the body of a Lalafell

<The rest are just lolis with a gut

They are not. Lalafells are some strange abomination between loli and toddlercon body types. And unlike Elins, which are a strange combination of loli and adult body types, lalafells don't look sexy.

>>16607024

But at the same time, they virtue signal about not allowing you to make child characters with other races in the game.

>>16611515

Well, yeah. To be honestly serious even the easy patch is still harder than vanilla.

>>16598629

No.

https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2019/06/19/trials-of-mana-censors-mentioning-of-porn-books/

http://archive.is/ZlPIP

>>16611815

That's because lalafells are technically children who look like children.

>>16611958

Adults who look like children was what I meant to write.

>>16611998

bosses do give xp and dead characters also receive it, don't worry. also >>16612087 wat

>>16612170

Level 50 enemies with absolutely no method of reaching me or attacking. Thanks to MP regen, I could cast fireball (and then Ice Smash which they are weak to) till they died. Apparently you can't level past 18 till you class change, so due to the xp scaling I believe you could conceivably get 15k+ xp per kill endlessly. That's pretty lame though so I walked away.

>>16612220

That's a weird bug, does that enemy always spawn there?

>>16612238

I believe so. I didn't explore the Forcena area very much (was trying to rush to town to use the Inn/save and then plot happened), but I'm sure it's an otherwise inaccessible portion of the area until later, with appropriately leveled enemies, which you are only given a glimpse of in that one specific area on the cliff. If you swing an immediate right after you cannon from Maia, that's where it is.

Fortunately, you are 100% safe from the hedgehogs and free to magic them until they die.

>>16611998

>start casting fireball after getting enough mana for it

>>Jewel Eater casts double single target Diamond Missile on Charlotte

>he fell for the spell casting meme

all bosses have spell counters they can do without any delay.

>>16613032

You can delay that counter by counterattacking them with lv1 techs in this hack, so you can get away with spells if you're not spamming

>>16612793

just giving Vaan a shirt makes him look like a proper protagonist

>>16613032

>all bosses have spell counters they can do without any delay.

oh fugg didn't know that. It's way too late to change the course now, but my projected strategy for dealing with all bosses was 'overwhelming spellspam.' It'll be interesting to see if I can keep it going or not for the later bosses. Just beat Tzerekan(?) and got JInn so far so good.

>>16612274

Leveling up that was works for a time, but won't save you from the Ghost ship anyway. Coming back after the first class change works however. Do note that skipping fight afterward will cause some money issue, your gains there do not increase as fast.

>>16613160

Already did my first class changes. Went with RangerHawk, PriestessCharlotte (didn't want to but needed heals), and DevlarAngela. I'm starting to really regret not picking Kevin over Hawk, but I didn't want to make the game "easy." I should have had faith in the rebalance.

>>16612845

Penelo's Tactics Advance design is the best of the bunch for sure.

>>16613053

>>16613195

I wonder If I'm the only one who has played revenant wings?

>>16606997

>Technically, Nintendo censored that.

thats not what i heard, i head that SE was the one that push the censorship in this game, they also wanted to censor the original nier (but yoko taro wasnt having any of it) also they censored one of star oceans even in japan

>>16613699

To be specific and avoid getting slapped with a Monkeys' Paw, I want the SAME Legend of Mana game on a new system, but with better graphics that manage to stay true to the original.

Was never too fond of Legend of Mana.

Not sure if it was an emulator issue, but the in-combat movement felt very janky, having to slowly wade through the battlefield to collect loot was annoying and if memory serves, you couldn't run from battles either. The way the game was constructed, it's plot wasn't very interesting either. It seemed to be more about side-missions.

The music was great though.

>>16613640

Nah that was Nintendo. I'm not sure why you'd think it's Square Enix when Nintendo also pushed Bandai Namco to censor a Dragon Ball name on 3DS. Not to mention if you look at others games from SE they have super lewd shit.

>>16613734

like i said i heard it was SE, it could be the source was wrong, bou like i said SE has been censoring their games in the last years, like star ocena six that they censored one of the charcters panties even in japan.

>>16613783

and?

you think thats lewd?

>>16613809

>>16613783

also already was confirmed that SE removed the dialog that imply that duran had porn magazines, not even showing but just implication was enogh to remove it

>>16613809

Very lewd yes.

>>16613813

We have yet to see what the JP version said.

>>16598070

>expecting anything good coming from remakes

>expecting anything good coming from modern companies

>expecting anything good coming from remakes made by modern companies

>>16613820

>We have yet to see what the JP version said.

the japanese speaks of prn books as well

>ecchi na hon

just look at >>16611947 is all there

Does anyone get upset at reading the OP dialog? Both her parents are disappearing, it's easy beyond her understanding and she has no way of dealing with it other than thinking they're leaving her. It really bums me out.

>>16613829

Perverted book. Literally what it was translated as. What's the problem?!

>>16613846

youre preting be retard?

that is the fan translation

the new translation said

>the skeletons in your closed and screts under your bad

>>16613853

Dude, you're fucking confusing translations. Or you're doing it on purpose. Whichever it is? Now post the actual Japanese sentences shown when Angelia talk. Post screenshot and put back the Japanese text on here so we can actually translate it and see what it says originally.

>>16613846

Get the fuck out of here you censorship apologist.

>>16613869

So it talks about perverted books again yes. Not sure why they translated it right if you go to the house but made it less lewd for when Angelia talk about it.

>>16613425

I played, but never finished it.

>>16607034

>And we're talking about games not even published by Sony.

Along with games that were never meant to leave Japan.

>>16607008

>>16607024

Are these cash shop items or available in-game? Asking for a friend.

Anyways, I'm waiting for the physical release because fuck digital whenever possible, but have all of the glitches and such been rectified in the Collection of Mana?

>>16613710

I played on PS1 back in the day and loved it to pieces. However your assessment of the combat is correct. It's very easy to not quite be on the right plane as the enemy and have your attacks miss. Or watching exp crystals time out because they're on the other side of the screen and your basic movement is a shuffle. Alternatively an NPC partner will pick all of them up and hog the exp for themselves. Every system it has is opaque and it wasn't until the Ultimania guide came out several years later that we finally learned how to smith weapons with max elemental levels.

On that last point I still maintain it would have been a perfect crafting system for an MMO since the only restriction was player understanding and materials. It'd be ripe for trade secrets and other player interactions.

>>16614845

I think cash shop.

>>16614845

>Are these cash shop items or available in-game?

Pic One is the Flame Elite Skirt, which is acquired through the Immortal Flames grand company. So that's in-game.

Pic Two is the Bunny Chief set, which is sold at the Gold Saucer. So that's also in-game.

>>16616116

Surprising of Square, I thought they went full greed.

Yes

>>16625070

Don't spam spells, and invest on higher defenses

>>16628838

I believe that's a counter to you using a Lv2 tech. From what I remember from the original, using Lv2 techs against them is a quick way to die.

>>16629088

Bill and Ben are actually stunlockable and somewhat weak to basic attacks for what they are, but they are indeed hitting way too hard, I will agree there. For Dolan, you need to use a level 1 tech after he boosts himself but before the big attack arrives, to counter him

There's several mechanics like that for other bosses, too

>>16628838

>playing some nigger's "rebalance" mod

>surprised when it's not balanced

Just play the original.

>>16628838

Spiral moon ohko is a gimmick you need to find out to counter, I'm not sure what though

>>16630337

Found out, when he uses energy ball on himself his spiral moon will deal 999 damage, you need to use a Lv2/3 tech after he uses energy ball to dispel it. Rest of the fight should be doable

>>16630395

My bad, I thought it was level 1 above. Been a while

>>16606997

> On a related note, it's fucking amazing how many people are desperately trying to memory hole the censorship of this series so that knowledge of its existence doesn't break the "Based Nintendo has never, ever censored a third party game!" narrative being thrown around lately.

Its true they haven't, most censorship Pre Soyny was due to cucked localization teams not platforms. Nintendo didn't censor the Bravely series the localization team Binary Sonori did. I believe they were the ones who localized and censored FF Type 0 along with adding in the Xer tumblr pronouns. NoA can't do shit to games they aren't localizing but they can and will cuck games under their wing i.e first parties. Even Takaki said Nintendo doesn't mind fanserivce on 3rd parties. If Nintendo had "global regulations" then they would have killed games like Senran before it got off the ground.

https://www.frontlinejp.net/2019/06/20/trials-of-mana-producer-interview-june-2019/

>>16631938

>Finally, the interviewer asks if Trials of Mana will include additional content not in the original, such as new story sequences. Tatsuke neither confirms nor denies this, only saying that there is a lot of information that they have not announced yet, and that as a fan of the SNES version of Dragon Quest III, he is hoping to make Trials of Mana into something like it, that can be enjoyed both by fans of the originals and new players.

>DQ3 snes

So I'm going to have to beat Xenlon in under twenty turns to get her to revive some npc?

Also, just how bad is Dawn of Mana? I can burn a copy for my ps2 very easily but I've heard fans have a lot of umbrage with it. Polite sage for double posting.

>>16631983

I'm guessing there won't be much new sadly. But the remake looks good at least so it's fine imo.

>>16632028

> won't be much new

Are you illiterate or did you just reply without reading

>>16633916

>neither confirms nor denies

You're clearly retarded.

>>16634635

He neither confirmed nor denied but then cited another game which was an update/remake which had extra content as the sort of thing he wanted to add to it.

DQ3 on SNES added a whole bunch of shit, including a new class and medals and dungeons and armour and spells and rebalanced monsters and a fuckton of other stuff.

>>16634635

He says he can't say then says to look at a game which added a fuckton of bullshit you retarded newfag.

>>16600621

>Snes9x didn't exist before 2004.

Snes9x is older than ZSNES you mouthbreather. It's been around since 1997.

>>16598070

>No thread about it? I can't be alone to be happy to see Seiken Densetsu 3 getting such a nice-looking remake, right?

the SOM remake was trash and you're a retard for think it's good.

I am planning to play secret of mana for the first time and after checking to find an uncensored fan re-translation found this.

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4324/

How accurate it?

>>16639166

no

>>16639209

what do you mean no

it even says

>trials of mana

a name that just pop up on this e3, this game was always called seiken no densetsu 3 until them

>>16634726

>>16634698

If you think Square will add anything you're really optimistic.

>>16634735

Official release.

>>16639147

It's very rare to find a fan translation that butchers the script as much as ted woosly did. Why that fat fuck is praised to this day by nostalgiafags is beyond me.

>>16639224

Or just learn Japanese and stop being a cuck who relies on translations.

>>16639306

Problem is this is the only re-translation of secret of mana and it has this in the description

> Relocalized holds true to the style of beloved 90’s Squaresoft translator, Ted Woolsey.

>>16639306

>Why that fat fuck is praised to this day by nostalgiafags is beyond me

The same reason faggots eat NISA slop

>>16639693

read the thread you autist

im using the oficial translation to claim that SE will censsor the game, im not saying is a good translation

>>16639224

Not defending squeenix but did you even open the trailer