fb895a No.16595543
It's the autochess clone that got leaked recently
http://archive.is/RZkr3
Well, technically it's in beta, but you can play it right now.
Artifact and Underlords, Valve who the fuck asked for these?
93a2e0 No.16595549
So, they're really competing with the Chinese in autochess?
3ce3a5 No.16595551
Unlike Artifact, Auto Chess was really popular. The original maker is making a stand alone game for the epic game store. This is valve just doing what they've done since their inception. Releasing mods as full games.
fb895a No.16595552
By the way, the game already has 32,000 viewers on Twitch.
21473e No.16595554
It's not like Valve has to make games anymore, Gabe can sit his fat ass on Steam money for the rest of his life.
200846 No.16595555
551eaa No.16595559
Already got leaked, nothing to see here
fb895a No.16595662
I'd like to point out that Artifact has 67 players at the time of writing this.
d7d91d No.16595685
>>16595662
are we still able to stream movies and porn in that tag?
db735f No.16595690
fb895a No.16595729
>>16595711
It's already doing better than Artifucked did and it's been out for like 3 hours.
cb3928 No.16595733
>at Valve
>oh shit see its a potential mod of the year game! Lets make a full game from this!
>making it 4-5 years
> trend changed and market already oversaturate with this shit
Epic.
b3e6a5 No.16595751
>>16595690
KLK is a good show, and if you disagree you should just kill la kill yourself.
76dd1b No.16595753
>>16595543
Why not make it an official add on to Dota2 instead of a brand new game?
Because it has to be a standalone game so they can milk the microtransactions
3ce3a5 No.16595759
>>16595753
Valve cannot into backwards compatibility. Every update breaks the mods. Not to mention anytime they add a gamemode it dies within a week because everyone is addicted to the main game.
3d07e6 No.16595769
3d07e6 No.16595774
>>16595766
Not only is it chess, it's also them ripping off an already existing mod for dota2
e0414f No.16595782
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>>16595543
Epic will BTFO Valve and I could care less about Valve for forgetting its original fans who just wanted another game but will never receive it.
fb895a No.16595793
>>16595782
I don't even like Valve but you're retarded if you think people will move to a new platform when they already have a release on the platform they're using.
a469f2 No.16595824
>>16595793
>You're retarded if you think people will move to a new platform.
All it would take for Epics store to out perform steam and attract more users is 3 simple things that can be easily done better than it is on steam, anon.
>Social Features.
>Cloud Saves.
>Sales.
7ca93c No.16595827
>>16595543
>autochess
What?
fb895a No.16595842
>>16595827
It's a mod for Dota 2 that got extremely popular, I'm talking literally hundreds of thousands of concurrent players. Not daily players, concurrent' players.
fb895a No.16595845
>>16595842
>formatting got fucked up
Dammit
10b0d8 No.16595853
COPY A FUCKING TRASH CHINK "MOBILE GAME"
The absolute state of valve
da5e29 No.16595859
>Valve still wasting resources on Dota 2 shit
>Source 2 probably becoming increasingly tied to games being Dota 2 like
>Team Fortress 2 still having a dev team of like 4 people constantly being screamed at by the fagtacular fanbase of jewtubers to delete everything fun because
<AHUH-HUH I SUUUUUURE FEEL BAD ABOUT DOING THIS THING IT'S SO UNBALANCED
<Switches to soldier and erases the entire other team
<THIS IS TOTALLY FINE THO #REMOVEEVERYTHINGIDONTLIKEVALVE
ce8a98 No.16595866
>>16595543
it looks like simplified mobile shit. they should've just made a proper copy. so far, dota auto chess is still the best
6d70b0 No.16595885
>>16595543
>Valve
>gaiyz wut shud we dew? Artuhfact didn't sell well
>Shuld we releese hl3?
>naaaah lets make another game
>itprintsmoney.gif
What's the point of even releasing another game that's not even one of Valve's original games? Valve really turned into other companies like EA or Activision. It's just "No quality or quantity, just keep making microtransactions and other games that don't belong to us" philosophy.
tl;dr pic related is what valve is now
0c6b87 No.16595890
>Yet another dota spinoff
7ca93c No.16595908
>>16595842
But what is it? It's just chess?
7b8efd No.16595915
>>16595908
Imagine chess, but all the pieces move and fight on their own as they try to beat the shit out of each other with added rng elements and dota abilities.
da5e29 No.16595919
And I really don't think I'm asking for a lot here, I just want to see Valve try to push people into community servers and mods, because that shit's why people still play tf2 after all this time.
It's why they could stick two weapons into tf2 and it would be a major update. There was just so much you could do with two new weapons with all the different community maps and game modes. It makes no sense to water the game down to Casual matchmaking where everything gets old in a week after nonstop games of 5gorge.
I watched TF2 slowly lose all of its interesting shit with matchmaking and quickplay slowly railroading people into one type of game over and over.
VSH only exists because of horsefucker autism at this point.
Hundreds of alternative game modes are fucking dead.
I went into a fucking server today and not a single person there had even heard of fortwars.
NOT ONE.
da5e29 No.16595928
THERE'S FUCKING PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WACKY RACES IS GODDAMN IT! IT ISN'T RIGHT THIS IS WRONG
a27387 No.16595935
>>16595543
What's autochess?
6969cb No.16595954
>>16595915
But then what do you do? Just watch AI vs AI? What the fuck.
6c30bd No.16595961
>>16595935
It's basically a chink version of Clash of Clans
7b8efd No.16595968
>>16595954
You earn gold to purchase pieces and then you set up the pieces on the board. Think of it as competitive chess tower defense or some shit.
6d70b0 No.16595979
>>16595919
>tf2 is a shell of its former self
A shame that TF2C died due to lack of interest along with the devs going more towards the deathmatch setting.
TF2 then
>players were talking about how many kills to deaths they got
>casually chatting while playing many different game modes (ctf, control point, payload, etc.)
TF2 now
<collecting hats and other pointless shit
<free to play means BRs flood servers
<horsefuckers in ever server
<idling players waiting for item drops
<TF2's file size is massive and the game rapes your RAM/hard disk
When the medic and pyro were getting weapons or hell the bonus day of the Sniper VS. Spy update was when TF2 was slowly going to shit.
da5e29 No.16596033
>>16595979
>Players were talking about how many kills to deaths they got
>casually chatting while playing many different game modes (ctf, control point, payload, etc.)
First of all, no.
Second of all, unless you want to count Territory control as its own game mode. You had TWO to pick from when tf2 came out, if you didn't join a community server, and even then community game modes mostly consisted of 1 Flag CTF maps. Granted, they had interesting concepts, like 1 Flag Ctf being used as a stand in as VIP mode from TFC, but that's besides the point.
3d07e6 No.16596045
>auto chess mod
>auto chess for league
>auo chess for epic games store
>auto chess valve edition
If there was ever proof that bugmen are controlling vidya, this would be it.
843f35 No.16596051
>>16595935
Some anon pointed me to a decent video when I asked the same question not too long ago. Each turn consists of multiple phases: you get a random set of units you buy/sell/upgrade, then you select units to form a group, then that group goes to fight another player's group. You get money and stuff if you win, you lose health if you lose. Rinse and repeat until one player's left alive. Units have synergies (elves with other elves, elementals with elementals), items, upgrades, etc. Most important point is that you don't control your units once the fighting starts. It looked like somewhat shallow game that's easy to get into and makes you feel good when you win the RNG of having your units not be retarded and hit the right thing.
3ce3a5 No.16596107
>>16595979
>When the medic and pyro were getting weapons or hell the bonus day of the Sniper VS. Spy update was when TF2 was slowly going to shit.
Scout patch is when shit went retarded. The original sandman was not only broken but not fun at all to play with or against. Every server had sandman scout's for months. The spy vs sniper just threw gas on the fire. Spy was the least played class (you'd see like 1 in a pub if you're lucky), suddenly every server has +4 spies per team using the dead ringer and accomplishing nothing. It really pissed me off, because I rather liked spy and actually got gud instead of relying on gimmicky shit. Last time I checked the entire game is balanced around gimmicky bullshit like the dead ringer.
512e55 No.16596138
Thank you, Valve! Very cool!
ea3ea5 No.16596147
>>16596107
Medic weapon update was when it truly went to shit, and then shortly after Pyro got the airblast ability.
Actually, I'm feeling especially contrarian today - TF2 went to shit as soon as it came out of beta. Do I fit in yet?
9a79c5 No.16596151
>>16595979
you forgot the fact that there's shit tons of random game breaking items and the hats destroy the frame rate. tf2 was never a good game but now it's a post-natal abortion lol
abe2d8 No.16596154
>>16595935
Adaptation of an ancient WC3 map called Pokemon Defense
6632c4 No.16596169
>DOTA
It's not a new game nigger
3ce3a5 No.16596171
>>16596147
>>16596151
It's like I'm seeing the opposite sides of the retard spectrum
acce46 No.16596256
>>16595979
>>16596107
>>16596171
>>16596147
I feel like people who say TF2 is shit nowadays just have rose tinted glasses glued to their face. Modern TF2 is still miles better than any other multiplayer FPS played today. Find me a game with as much complexity and skillful movement as TF2 that still has healthy playerbase numbers that TF2 has managed to keep up despite it being 12 years old. I started playing TF2 around 2012 so I have no nostalgia for old TF2 but I have played a significant amount of TF2 Vintage back when this board had gamenights were we would play it and the only thing I see that's all that different in TF2 Vintage is that there are no cosmetics and no weapons but stock, the core game felt exactly the same and just as fun as my experience with modern TF2. Also arguing that the stupid cosmetics ruined the game for you is silly, they are just cosmetics. Do I think they should have never added lime green and neon pink to the available colors you could paint your stuff in? Do I feel an uncontrollable rage when a lime green scout kills me over and over while proceeding the taunt afterwards everytime? Definitely but I don't drop the game right there because there is still so many good things I enjoy about TF2 to keep me playing. There are also commands and mods to remove all that garbage so you don't see it if it really bothers you that much.
fb895a No.16596269
>>16596256
I wish Valve never went FulL WacKy!! with TF2. I hate the cosmetics so much, I wish they'd just add a vanilla mode.
e6cba9 No.16596279
>>16595751
>muh feminist cuckime
Keep sucking jamals dick while watch ching chang
70e638 No.16596296
I just went and watched artifact on twitch. Man, that was a good episode of the simpsons.
cd5760 No.16596307
So how do you play auto chess
6d70b0 No.16596310
>>16596256
>muh nostalgia fallacy
That isn't the point, TF2's gameplay changed with the many additions. The weapons such as Pyro's new weapons. The flamethrower and even the backburner add a air burst to deflect rockets and stickies, which were not in 2007. This addition along with the flare gun made w+m1 pyros appear more often than what the pyro was supposed to do. Which was be an ambushing class. The new items and weapons lead to more faggotry like "friendly enemy" or "sandvich parties" instead of doing the objectives of the map.
0c84d5 No.16596323
>>16595766
its really not
some anon in another thread likened it more to poler and hes right.
barring the board this is absolutely nothing remotely comparible to chess
70e638 No.16596327
>>16596310
Oh please. The pyro was useless in vanilla. The flare gun was worst in slot until they added mini-crits and crits to all flares. Even then the shotgun is usually better.
6d70b0 No.16596356
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>>16596327
>Pyro was useless in vanilla
Only if you sucked at playing Pyro. Vid related shows how the Pyro could cause havoc if done right back in vanilla.
8f9c77 No.16596376
>>16596356
The gameplay in this video is so incredibly shit that it doesn't surprise me that you posted it with the opinion you have. Pyro was fucking useless in vanilla, and if you think he really brought anything to the table that the other classes didn't do better…well just keep your nostalgia glasses on. The guy in that video is just killing people who seem to be physically incapable of shooting back, because if they did the pyro would be dead before he could do anything. But you probably never even played vanilla TF2 you contrarian little shit.
7b8efd No.16596377
>>16596356
>vanilla pyro was good against retards
916360 No.16596388
didn't Warhammer do this ages ago?
Chess with RPG elements.
acce46 No.16596428
>>16596356
>that video
Most of these people hes fighting against look like they have the motor skills of a toddler. Go ahead and boot up TF2 or TF2 Classic or TF2 Vintage and use completely stock Pyro all without airblasting because you've obviously have never played TF2 in any state if you are naive enough to believe Pyro wasn't garbage before the airblast was added. The airblast actually gave Pyro a decent chance to counter the most powerful classes in the game Demoman and Soldier and even afterwords he is still decimated by any hitscan classes with half a brain.
acce46 No.16596447
>>16596367
>>16596366
You may wanna try this one, I don't use it myself but I do not see anyone bring up that issue when discussing it. https://github.com/JarateKing/CleanTF2plus
6601a9 No.16596513
I took a look at the beta leak. I remember playing a game just like this on kongregate years ago that was 2d. This is not an improvement. What next, simon says, but in VR?
6cce44 No.16596524
what the fuck is auto chess
f14087 No.16596560
>>16595543
>multiplayer rng deck shuffling mobileshit
unsurprisingly, it's shit like everything valve produces.
000000 No.16596700
>>16595543
Valve never made a good game.
3f4c81 No.16596729
For the faggots that missed history:
>Artifact comes out, nobody likes it (December 2018)
>Roughly around the same time, a Dota 2 arcade mod, "Auto Chess" comes out
>Despite having "chess" in its name, it has nothing to do with chess, and is mostly just an RNG game. You get a randomized selection of units you can buy and place on the field, and then these units get steered by RNG to fight enemies, often using RNG-based abilities
>Being something you can play to cool down, Dota 2 streamers start playing it, it becomes wildly popular
>Valve, seeing Auto Chess completely shit on Artifact, tries to work something out with the author, but they decide that each of them can go and make their own version (May 2019)
>E3 rolls around (June 2019)
>Before E3, Riot / League of Legends announce their own version of Auto Chess, to be released soon (as in 4 days from now!)
>During E3, the author of Auto Chess announces his version coming to Epic Store
>In a desperate move to be the first to the market, Valve rushes the development of their Auto Chess, releases it as the most buggy beta they've ever pushed out
I hope the Epic and League versions are much better and completely blow it out of the water. I just want to see Valve get fucked on this.
a6e98d No.16596854
>le valve bad and does nothing and also is as bad as EA meme
>let's ignore years of updates for dota 2 and csgo
>ignore all VR stuff
>ignore Steam Proton and everything valve did to make linux gaming better than ever (even steamos still gets updated as far as I heard)
>big VR game coming this year
>the only bad thing about Artifact was it's fucked up monetization
>still updates old games from 1998
>doesn't buy exclusives
Is there any more based company than valve?
4e2048 No.16596866
>>16595552
>32k chinks
riveting fucking gameplay btw
c2e7f0 No.16596873
The only thing I got out from this thread is that artifact streams some good shit.
24c803 No.16596891
>>16596729
Why would you want one cancer to beat another cancer? Especially EGS of all fucking things, that is an even worse cancer than Steam.
557ebc No.16596946
>>16596327
Vanilla pyro is a classic disrupt class. It's job is to clean up defenses and attract attention while dealing the max AOE damage to groups of enemies (but not enough to actually rack up kills).
The pyro goal is to be a nuisance, disrupting an enemy group coordination, while it's own team use the time and distraction it provided to realize an action.
Of course as every class meant to be played in conjunction with others it is fairly ungrateful and since it takes a lot more skill than a healslut or a engitard it's thoroughly despised by both bots, and by people that like to fap on their kill counts.
Non-vanilla pyro is the same thing on steroids. You get an actual chance to duel soldiers, you get to run even better ambushes with the backburner (except the things never actually works, spy that are mad about missed crits have never played pyro), etc…
It's arguably the second hardest class to play well after spy and it's way less gratifying.
3f4c81 No.16597004
>>16596891
Because Valve is simply not capable of making good games, let alone make games in a reasonable timeframe. I much rather have them focus on maintaining their current products than have them chase worthless market trends.
9c6192 No.16597027
>Made another shitty game that no one wanted after the dumpster fire that is artifact
>Not making an ARPG and incorporating most of the heros into it and have some flesh out lore for the game
>Not making a rts game with factions of the people of axe, sven, legion, or any other character's races/factions
>Not making a hack and slash with jug going cuhrazy
Fuck man my head hurts from thinking of what's going through their head that made them thought that making a battleship/chess game would be a good idea at all.
c70e17 No.16597050
>>16596279
>cuckime
Fuck off /tv/
625803 No.16597053
>>16595859
>4 people
Its only 2 people. Valve totaly aliminate any support for a game except little bugfixes one per half year.
865982 No.16597113
>>16595935
Basically a mod imitating a boardgame with combining pieces and a rolling system.
It's fun but time consuming.
8b2061 No.16597131
I knew it was popular, but never even saw how it is played. People used to be afraid Valve will fuck up the standalone game by changing stuff. So is it the same or?
43901a No.16597216
>>16596356
>actually defending 2007-era pyro
You had two classes that can move around maps are great speeds, deal with sentry guns, gain access to areas of maps only they can go to and dish out decent damage from around corners keeping them safe from harm.
And then you had one class who can't do any of that shit, is expected to go into close range in a game filled with damage ramp-up in order to do any damage himself, and if he ever tries to fight the aforementioned two classes in the range that's supposed to be to his advantage he's killed in two shots or less.
ea3ea5 No.16597242
>>16597216
They’re just trying to be contrarian. They can’t actually defend pre-airblast pyro.
fb895a No.16597271
>>16597027
Valve has a flat structure with very little management, people have to want to work on a game it get it made.
b3734f No.16597342
>>16596147
>TF2 went to shit as soon as it came out of beta.
damn right nigga, tfc is where it's at
ea3ea5 No.16598330
>>16597342
Actually, I’m an epic oldfag and definitely not a contrarian and I think TFC was shit. Quake is where its at.
fb895a No.16598363
>>16597242
People say Pyro is OP but he's really not. He does what he's meant to do (close-range killing machine) really well. Pyro has a ton of counters, even the fucking Scout can counter him with Mad Milk.
e432b9 No.16598401
>>16596356
>>16596376
Adding the worst and most irritating mechanics to the game to buff the least important classes into a false sense of being useful was not a good thing for TF2 and I will forever hate the pyro and the dead ringer for how infinitely obnoxious they are.
7370e2 No.16598440
>>16596854
How does Gabe's fat juicy cock taste like?
da5e29 No.16598454
>>16598401
>I will fucking cry because I can't meathead at the pyro and might have to change to the shotgun and shoot them twice
>Asking me to maintain awareness of my surroundings is too much to ask
2a566c No.16598460
>>16598440
Probably about as tasty as bait is to an oblivious jackass.
e432b9 No.16598461
>>16598454
Pyro would have been better off useless than as a gimmick anti-class.
b3734f No.16598471
>>16598330
as a fellow oldfag I have to politely disagree. never got into quake tf, but I can see why you prefer it
was busy playing other mods and later frontline force / eternal silence
482ff1 No.16598489
>>16595543
Jesus Christ, can that cancerous Blizzard artstyle just die already?
fb895a No.16598493
>>16598330
TFC isn't the same as Quake Team Fortress. TFC is a Source engine version.
500710 No.16598536
>>16597027
Underlords is a mobile gambling game that rips assets and gameplay from an existing game. It looks like it was made by 5 people. The skill and knowledge requirements are much lower than DotA. It rides on the popularity of DotA so normies will notice it in the app store. It will print money for nothing.
625803 No.16598560
>i cant counter airblas (what was nerfed to hell 2 years ago) so tits bad
>w+m1 somehow requires more skill
Sometimes TFC and Vanila retards have a brain damage. Making simple team shooter more complicated and require skills to handle different situation and teamplay is bad somehow.
>TF2 at start
>engy can't move his buildings
Just ebin amirite.
I remember playing with /v/ guys in TF2Vanila and having fun but "meta" faggots realy fucking piss me off while completely not understanding how pogojump or reflecting works.
>muh hats
Sell all hats and trade on keys and sell them to mongoloid for real money. Problem solved.
6de082 No.16598563
>>16597027
>implying anyone outside of /v/ wants any of that
fb895a No.16598591
>>16598489
>>16598536
Valve didn't even intend to release the beta of Underlords this early, rumor has it Valve panicked after Riot announced their own version and Epic snagged Drodo's version. Rumor also has it that this is the mobile version of the game, which was more finished than the PC version. They didn't even have the time to remove the Source 2 strings attached to other games they're working on like Half-Life VR and Citadel.
500710 No.16598661
>>16598591
I hope they make a PC version. I expected nothing, hoped for sweet new models that would make it back into DotA, and was very disappointed when I saw the mobile graphics. Very low skill and poor taste mobile graphics at that.
I will be watching what happens in this three way competition. They are some intriguing contenders. I have no idea which way it will go.
1ef10f No.16598683
>>16598560
>Making simple team shooter more complicated and require skills to handle different situation and teamplay is bad somehow.
The game is already complex, adding in more bloat and filler just to make it even MOAR complex just because is very bad indeed
>le w+m1
imagine being THIS bad at video games, do you also spam "random crits are fair and balanced" in chat too?
6343d6 No.16598755
>>16598454
When the fuck did I draw this?
da5e29 No.16598761
>>16598755
approximately 1 year 2 months and 13 days ago
da5e29 No.16598762
>>16598761
Just kidding it was from september of 2017
d360b3 No.16598763
>>16598755
when you tried to smoke 40Kg. of crack, died, then woke up here in Hell.
b3734f No.16598950
>>16598661
> They are some intriguing contenders. I have no idea which way it will go.
volvo and rito will just sweeten the deal with cross promotions while epic will try the same with fortnite and bomb since the demographics hardly overlap.
surprised they released anything at all considering how retarded valve usually is with finishing shit so it's actually in a release state.
734d75 No.16602821
>>16597027
>shitty game that no one wanted
There are a shit ton of people playing some version of "auto chess" right now. People so don't want that game that other companies are scrambling to get their own versions out as fast as possible.
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that you should turn your brain off while talking about it.
41cfd1 No.16602859
>>16596154
Like every new "derivative rts" for the past decade and a half, it's a rehashed old fucking WC3 map.
2275b6 No.16602960
>>16595543
So how do you actually play this game? What do you do in it? Seemed like a confusing mess when I tried it.
a5c7a8 No.16602966
>>16596356
<vanilla
>not the original Quake mod
3f8aa7 No.16602967
I played 12 hours already and I really liked it. Hope they add new mechanics and at least buff some classes. Hunter seens broken as fuck.
0d6ffd No.16603632
someone gift me battlepass so I can play autochess
>https://steamcommunity.com/id/nemken666/
06e26c No.16604147
>>16595543
>It's the autochess clone
What's auto chess?
500710 No.16604199
>>16598950
Epic seems pretty cutthroat. Fortnite competitors find themselves flooded with Chinese cheaters or lagging to hell. They dethroned all other royales being late to the game and pivoting from a failed game into a fortune. I don't know about their market reach. Maybe they shill it in their store and Fortnite with their Fortnite shills.
Riot is fucking dogshit aesthetics, but they shamelessly buy shills for their shit. They already have a fanbase built up from their shilling. I don't know how LoL exists when real DotA exists for free. Must be the power of shilling.
Valve has pro modelers and experience making a variety of games. No shilling, organic fanbase. Only money comes through competitions, which they've already been doing for their DotA autochess custom game.
>>16602960
>>16604147
You have to watch people. Collect 3 units to upgrade them. Units become more rare as players buy them, so you have to track their boards. Units have synergies if you get enough of a type. Buy and place units to defeat your opponents.
3fda35 No.16604228
>>16596729
>Valve, seeing Auto Chess completely shit on Artifact, tries to work something out with the author, but they decide that each of them can go and make their own version (May 2019)
Wasn't it march? They posted blog about it on may, but the meeting was earlier, and it (meeting) was rumored about it at least in april.
3fda35 No.16604230
>>16597053
Robin "Bulldog" Walker, heh.
3fda35 No.16604236
>>16597131
Some chick on Tyler VNN stream pointed out only one difference. You get to choose item from random pool after winning loot wave instead of just getting random one.
3fda35 No.16604243
>>16598560
>airblast (what was nerfed to hell 2 years ago)
It was changed, and it stronger than it was, and it has that thing there affected players get low friction and slide fucking miles.
And w+m1 doesn't really require more skill, it's just more consistent.
But you should watch sketchek video on flamethrower mechanics, it's good and easy to understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxiBpXn9Nqs
e37b85 No.16604275
>>16604243
>2019
Didn't he die three or four years ago?
3fda35 No.16604351
>>16604275
The funny thing is he didn't die, he fucking lied because he wanted to cut ties with games because they were destructive to him.
b24fc7 No.16604353
I don't see anyone pointing out it's basically a cell phone game. More dumbing down and you cucks fall for it. This the stupidest behaviour in the world
e37b85 No.16604385
>>16604351
And yet three years later he's returned to making videos? Talk about overkill.
3fda35 No.16604452
>>16604353
Originally it started as mod, so nah. And being, by some rumours, mobile build of the game ported to PC (where by the same rumours there was a PC build) it means that their Source 2 engine fucking works on phones, and they fucking working on engine, instead of switching to unity.
>>16604385
He is just an idiot.
53588e No.16604545
>>16596310
>what the pyro was supposed to do.
Being useless? Git gud.
c434b0 No.16605276
>>16605194
>1. Turn rates.
An important balancing mechanic to nerf kiting and make melee heroes viable.
>2. Obviously aesthetics. DotA: most common type of champions is some sort of blue-purple bug. LoL: cute semendemons.
This is far more important tbh. No waifus is a big problem. The SJW's at valve won't let them make anything of the sort either.
b44dd1 No.16605371
>>16595747
I know what I'm gonna do later.
e32543 No.16605522
>>16605194
>cute
LoL characters look like something pulled from a chinese PSX game if it was developed by deviantart, which is a perfect description of Riot's art staff.
e37b85 No.16605560
>>16605276
But Crystal Maiden and Lena are cute.
7669c6 No.16605600
>>16595747
>Tarrant causes peak view numbers for Artifag'd
967867 No.16605722
>>16605276
There are plenty of cute girls in Dota, they're jut not all made to appeal to weebs. They're still prettier than 90% of women in western games.
6d70b0 No.16606820
>>16596428
>>16596383
>>16596376
>>16604545
>>16596377
Can't even figure out that I used the Pyro as an example of why TF2's gameplay has degenerated to a collect-a-thon and many weapons that change the strategies for each class. Hell even TFC/QWTF had no weapons that were brought in from every patch.
caba17 No.16606844
>>16596729
Calling autochess an "RNG game" is like calling poker an "RNG game". You're trying too hard.
2373e5 No.16606923
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296e9d No.16606936
>>16606923
>People's Republic
>Can only vote between kosher party member A and kosher party member B
>At least we have a choice!!
6de082 No.16606941
>>16606936
Yeah, unlike the great European countries where you get to pick between kosher parties A, B, C, D, E, F and G!
Also,
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d1ad15 No.16606944
>>16606941
I still don;t get the point of the spam. Does it actually ever trigger anyone? I know it's used on chink friendly sites to boot people off them from the network but 8chan is blocked by china anyway, isn't it?
6d67ce No.16606964
>>16606944
50 cent army is quickly becoming the new JIDF, as in they exist and do shill forums, but they probably don’t come here and Anons take any pro-China/Israel post to be from them.
d8dbe1 No.16606980
I literally did not even know this existed until now, and what the fuck is autochess? Chess that plays itself with no challenge?
f89061 No.16607006
>Dota shit as expected
It's now officially confirmed Valve doesn't have the balls to make a new game using their own properties at risk of failure so they're using their acquired most hated one to shit these out.
2b4a7b No.16607011
>>16596854
>Is there any more based company than valve?
My dick
>been updating for years
>lots of fun to have
>can be played solo and multiplayer
>has a case to protect the sensible parts
>doesn't need VR for the feel of 3D
>can make more penises
>can actually make new vaginas
>all royalty free, there is no copyright
>even if you don't have your own dick you can buy a copy of it
>a hundred uses, sky is the limit
>can be used for both hands to gain stability and better aim
See, using your same formula, my dick is actually the most based videogame company ever.
Please donate money to my dick.
b3e6a5 No.16607014
2d6d9b No.16607022
>>16606980
>autochess
It sounds like exactly the kind of game a decadent, soulless faux-utopian future should have.
734d75 No.16607352
>>16595733
>>making it 4-5 years
Replace years with months and the rest of you're post with an apology for being wrong and you've accurately described what actually happened here.
734d75 No.16607354
>>16595782
>I could care less
Retard.
ddccf8 No.16607381
>>16596107
>Last time I checked the entire game is balanced around gimmicky bullshit like the dead ringer.
They buffed the dead ringer and nerfed the cloak and dagger in 2014 even though the dead ringer was already more useful
6eeb5d No.16607803
>>16605371
Make sure you have your VPN on. Twitch are suing anyone who posts no no's on their site now. No joke. They're taking all the little timmies to court for damages after they posted porn and shit on their unmoderated Twitch streams.
Which of course means Twitch is a publisher and is legally liable for anything and everything on their platform. So have at it. Get that shithole shut down. Bankrupt the owners and anyone who works on it. The Twitch Thot's tears will be the icing on the cake.
97006f No.16607951
>>16607936
That was a thing since the original mod, fag. I wouldn't have tried DotA2 if they were retarded enough to remove that.
97006f No.16607980
>>16607971
>Without any thought behind it
>Valvebab
>Implying I'd use steam if it wasn't the only way to play the sequel to the mod I liked
Retard
cb9c38 No.16607988
>>16605276
>No waifus is a big problem.
You mean no new waifus, right? The legacy Dota waifus (Crystal Maiden, Lina, Mirana, Drow Ranger, etc.) are serviceable.
98d20e No.16608058
>>16607971
>bootleg gook clicking simulator that can only won by autistic bugmen
39b3d6 No.16608100
>>16608027
Dead and forgotten not even a year after it’s release.
Good riddance.
>>16595543
>some rando makes a mod of a popular game
<it gets super popular by some weird reason
>wants to make it into a proper game instead along with an official release
<but on the other guy’s platform
>the “devs” behind the original game then scramble to make their jury-rigged clone of the other guy’s popular mod
<said clone looks like shite, just as their previous attempt at making a game based off an already existing IP
Looks like we’ve gone full circle here folks.
e32543 No.16608374
>>16607971
>game has no turn rates
>game has no disables
>every single character is given blinks
>the counter to flash is flash
Honestly League has absolutely shit game design, Riot is just a terrible company.
1d5408 No.16608401
There's nothing chess about this. It's not even called chess.
Fuckers go play some real chess before you say stupid shit. Not even sure why it's so popular. The game literally plays itself.
e88257 No.16608418
are leaguefags trying to argue their shit is better again?
d2ec6d No.16608430
The original has more soul than any cashgrab ever will. LoL is a cashgrab. It may have better hero variety, something that Dota 2's custom game modes should have copied 1:1 but didn't, but we all know they're both shit.
0bc356 No.16608461
>>16607936
It's not input lag. It's your character turning to face the direction you want them to.
>>16608430
>It may have better hero variety
This is wrong on every level. Design-wise even the most unique hero in league somehow manages to look both cartoony and flat at the same time. Ability-wise, they all function the same depending on the role rito designed for them, and if somehow they function differently, don't worry tencent comes around to rework them eventually. Or they get Poppy'd
b3e6a5 No.16608483
>>16608477
If that's true, and the turn rate is just input lag, then it would be the same for all heroes. However, it's not, and different heroes have different turn rates. Additionally, some abilities are instant cast, but others have a small cast point before actually being cast; this is also good, as it enables you to fake being about to cast an ability to force your opponent to react, among other things.
Retarded nigger.
e88257 No.16608509
>>16608483
Instant casts are a rarity. Rubick is the most obvious example.
6e2bfb No.16608526
>>16608513
when's the last time a good rts came out?
2f6c43 No.16608529
>>16608513
Why did you reply to me and not the contents of my post? Is this shit a religion to you?
e32543 No.16608546
>>16608477
>doesn't react immediately
They do start turning instantly, they actually have turning animations, characters dont just instantly flick upsidedown or start running 180 degrees with no frames inbetween.
Think of it like fighting games, you don't just jump like a retard because there are consequences, same thing except you have to think ahead because where you're facing actually matters.
e88257 No.16608547
>>16608513
So seem emotionally invested.
How can I play RTS if I kill myself first? Are you saying RTS are for the dead?
e32543 No.16609004
>>16608944
> instant acceleration is very similar to the movement of fighting games
Actually there is wind up and animation cancel in fighting games.
LoL has neither
d1ad15 No.16609775
>>16609755
>noob
Holy shit, what year are league fags from? Also congrats on the basic animation cancelling. Must be very high level play for the 5 year olds who are pros at the game.
6af90d No.16612244
>>16595543
God I fucking hope this tanks harder than Artifact.
>>16608100
It took them less than 6 months to sink below 200 players.
ee3e37 No.16612353
>>16595968
>>16595954
This is basically like those SC/WC3 custom maps where you just build buildings on the left or right side of the map that periodically spawn units that cross the map to fight the opposing side, with kills giving you more money to spend on buildings?
Can't recall what they were called, line wars I think?
3ce3a5 No.16612460
Anyone have any idea why valve is constantly trying to flip DotA's assets? It's really weird for them. The closest shit you'd see is something like Bill's hat from L4D showing up in TF2, but now they're literally just copy pasting DotA assets for their new games.
23627c No.16612497
>>16612460
There was a thread not too long ago that went over some posts from some guy who apparently worked at Valve for a bit recently. The gist of it is that Valve as a company today is hilariously dysfunctional, and their "no management" business structure isn't really "no management," it's actually "secret cliques that may or may not be able to decide if you're still working here tomorrow and you'll never fucking know who has seniority over you." The former dev basically confirmed that Valve as a development studio basically doesn't exist anymore, that the people who work there don't do anything unless it's minimum work for maximum monetization. This is why you won't see another Half-Life, Portal, or Left 4 Dead anytime soon, probably ever; none of these games can be monetized to the same extent as TF2, Dota 2, or CS:GO, where they can just slap together a few skins (or steal them from the community and toss a couple shekels their way) and sell them for outrageous prices. In this case, because all the models and rigging are done for these Dota assets, they'll just reuse that for a new "game" instead of coming up with anything new.
Don't get me wrong, Epic/Tencent are much worse than Valve with the shady dealings, but Valve desperately needs some competition to shake them out of their complacency. They've gotten fat (haha gaben) off of holding a virtual monopoly on PC gaming distribution, which has enabled them to do pretty much fuck all in the years since. I have no intention of letting Tencent's spyware onto my system, but if there were an actually halfway decent competitor to Steam, we might see Valve get off their collective fat asses (haha gaben) and do something.
305217 No.16612784
>>16612460
>>16612497
They want to create their own cinematic universe. Also since Epic's autochess reveal was mostly complaining they didn't use dota models it makes sense Dota's autochess uses the dota models.
d855ac No.16613739
>>16612497
>Valve desperately needs some competition to shake them out of their complacency.
I always read that, but why? because they don't make games anymore?
9eb259 No.16613860
>>16608084
I wonder if in 15 years people will still be waiting for Artefact episode 3.
a6dce4 No.16614184
>>16613739
Yes, but also because on first glance they don't do anything.
35561d No.16614546
386d7b No.16614599
>>16605722
>There are plenty of cute girls in Dota, they're jut not all made to appeal to weebs.
Lina Inverse is taken directly from Slayers manga/anime with more western look to make her in line with other DotA characters/avoid copyright infrigement.
c9ba2e No.16614783
>>16614184
>Yes, but also because on first glance they don't do anything.
they pump money into linux and proton (and vr, although they went full retard with that one lately), I couldn't care less if they shit out some sequel that will either be shit (like l4d2), become it's own meme (like portal 2) or never fulfill expectations (hl3).
besides that why get angry when a company found a way to make infinite money and not be absolutely retarded? sure, in the end every company is drifting into the retarded left spectrum and we already can see the beginning, but either way with literal retards running the show they'll finish themselves off at some point.
a6dce4 No.16615175
>>16614599
She was named that before dota 2 happened, so it's just passed trou to dota 2. So your point is strange.
>>16614783
>and vr, although they went full retard with that one lately
If to believe tyler's video on valve vr history, they were full retard, because they given out their technology to oculus (before they were brought by FB) and to HTC to some extent, so now Valve isn't focused only on software, but on hardware also.
8b2061 No.16618864
So I played it for 3-4 hours and I have to say that it is quite boring.
4e345a No.16622703
>>16618864
It is, fucking autochess genre is boring because on battle phase you just wait. You can use this time to think on new purchases and etc. but it isn't obvious.
3a15dd No.16626184
I've been playing AC since it was released, nearing max rank in Underlords now. The chinese modders either caught lightning in a bottle or had some help with the PR(or both), but it took off so here we are.
Valve copied what was already there and added the usual level of polish, but they also made some nice changes to the formula.
While UL is somewhat basic atm and there's a number of things I'd like to see them address, I admit they did a pretty decent job overall.
6e2bfb No.16626610
so autochess is basically ogre battle but with a versus mode?
865982 No.16626624
This is a crippled version of autochess. You can use 1 item per unit and it looks worse than chess.
93b6d5 No.16626635
>>16626624
Global Items are much more interesting than the AC way of stacking a single carry almost every game.
865982 No.16626643
>>16626635
Global items are shit. You are supposed to cover that with racial abilities.
>selecting items
How is this any better than RNG. In fact in RNG you have to think a bit more.
9dfad5 No.16627445
>>16615175
>they were full retard, because they given out their technology to oculus (before they were brought by FB) and to HTC to some extent, so now Valve isn't focused only on software, but on hardware also.
back then oculus was running on kickstarter and the whole industry was in it's infancy, some form of cooperation makes sense, especially when you want companies and people go in the direction of your tech. giving away stuff for free can be extremely beneficial under the right circumstances, they still put money into linux etc.
HTC was a hardware partner, and given how retarded valve is with valve time and actually getting shit done (look up the stuff about the team fortress cartoon) they probably tried to out-retard each other.
except now they released the index, and while the HMD itself ok, over 300 bucks for lighthouses is retarded when they need the adoption (not to mention the whole point of 2.0 was to make it cheaper, no it costs MORE?). inside-out and cameras are shit, but that's what everybody's going for because it's cheap and comes with the headset, so who's gonna go with lighthouse? it's the better tech but who gives a fuck if no one uses it because all the they stuff they have is already "good enough" or worse is cluttering your living room etc?
even worse with the fucking knuckles, full finger tracking is nice on paper but there is literally zero application for it right now and probably far off (if ever) because the industry is still so niche you have to support everything like vive wands to even make some of the money back. the only real use would probably be for the professional market (where it's actually cheap), but I don't see valve being valve operate on a level those businesses demand.
bc8077 No.16627547
>>16622703
>during a game that automatically plays itself you have to wait for the parts while it automatically plays itself
Fucking woah dude
89f8d8 No.16629212
>>16627445
Knuckles are good on paper, because they are a cheap tracking solution, where software could adopt it early before more fledged out true finger tracking comes out.
As i heard new lighthouses were made for allowing scaling up (using more than 2 base stations), and using 1 motor instead of 2. Not to make it cheaper.
f03166 No.16629709
now that we have dota:tower defense, how many years until dota: full rts:but none of that stupid retard bullshit where you have 30 different unit types all requiring manual activation of their abilities
maybe assfaggots could do some good in the world overall if we get a strategic zoom rts out of them
efe01a No.16629754
>>16629709
Pure RTS is too hard for the hollowed-out heads of normalfags who occupy the video gaming demographic these days.
f03166 No.16629868
>>16629754
normalfags literally want to play rts more than any other genre (see autochess, mobile games offering tower-defense-like gameplay [lol]), they just don't want to play gay nigger retard baboon "real time click on a unit and press c, then h, then shift K, then click all your other units in the same unit type and press that gay series of inputs in order again or YOU LOSE TO A KOREAN DOING IT FASTER THAN YOU"
tower defense is the spirit of macro rts, in much the same way assfaggots is the spirit of gookclicker apm garbage
b3e6a5 No.16629911
>>16629868
>normalfags want to play RTS
>except for RTS games that require hand-eye coordination and real-time skill
>MUH GOOKCLICK
Cry more.
f03166 No.16630246
>>16629911
if normalfags enjoyed the ASSFAGGOTS, fighting games, and so on, then why are they permanently dead genres that only ever decline?
the ONLY test of skill and technique in real-time that matters is pop'n music.
bc8077 No.16631867
What has your experience been with some of the alliances?
aacf54 No.16634417
>>16629868
I'm beating APM spammers all the time in those "gookclick" games with my superior strategies. Meta-nerds call it cheese but I call it strategy. APM is overrated and those who whine "gookclick" are just low iq people with bad strategic thinking abilities.
6ced8b No.16635442
They somehow managed to casualize auto chess. Auto combining is shit, the item system is shit in every way, giving half of the assassin a blink while keeping the rest the same was retarded and it looks like shit because it is being pushed for mobile. On the other hand Riot's team fight tactics managed to do everything right besides auto combining and being unable to put extra units on the field while rolling. I'm sure they will fuck it up with balance anyways, but for now it's probably the best take on the formula.