/v/ - Video Games

Was there myself. Can confirm OP is a lying faggot.

Scratch that, trailer just leaked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4DW7lx5HxY

>there are people that still give a shit about kingdom hearts

I honestly don't get it. What am I missing? The gameplay is mediocre at best, the story is a convoluted mess that's stretched out several generations on Soyny and Nintendo consoles, the characters are either dialed up animu power of friendship retardation or edgy faggotry, the music is forgettable or a remix of something for the most part. From what I've heard they completely nixed the FF characters in 3 so is it the disney cameos? Are there really 30+ year olds clapping like trained seals over disney characters?

>>16558246

Generally speaking the gameplay is quite good and the music is outstanding. Ill give you the story is a fucking mess tho, but the gameplay and music is enough for me.

>>16558246

>gameplay is quite good

<menu for turn based games

<not a turn based game

<press 'triangle' to awesome

Did they drastically change the gameplay in 3?

>music is outstanding

I remember one song from the game that's that's mostly because it was used in the commercial for the game. But you can make the argument that this is subjective, so whatever.

>>16558249

This, although I skipped 3 because they fucked up with both the gameplay and the music apparently.

>>16558245

Where have you been the past few years? Even last gen, you'd miss out on half the game if you bought the initial release but no DLC, and now we're officially at a point where you'd have to be a complete fucking retard not to wait at least a year and a half for the game of the year ultra hyper deluxe burst G special edition.

>>16558257

Supposedly the game is genuinely fun now that you can actually make it somewhat difficult.

>>16558233

It is from current Square, so it will be shit.

>>16558273

Well shit now I'm halfway to being interested. Is that awful Skrillex track in it or was that just for promotion?

>>16558261

But back in last gen. There were some good games and didn't have any bullshit(probably 15%) so you could still enjoy video games and ignore everything else.

But now you cant find a good game even if you tried looking hard.

>>16558246

There's something about slapping Disney shit on a product and people immediately think it's better than it actually is.

>>16558233

Trailer is up on YouTube.

>>16558834

Please no. I don't want to play kh3 a third time. I already played it once when it came out, and twice when that critical mode dlc came out. I'm burnt out on kh3.

>>16558834

I still don't know how they're going to fix the game with this DLC. If their answer is to play as anyone but sora then that would be funny but still sidestepping the issue.

>>16558246

>the music is forgettable

Now you're just lying.

>>16558304

>They carried over a lot of musical and gameplay elements from 2

And also one. They reused a lot of the iconic tracks from both games and it's one of the few things I liked about 3.

>>16558911

>please do tell me how the nobody snipers in twilight town were any fun to deal with while in critical mode.

Block their shot back at them and they're stunned. Use shotlock jumping to cover the distance. There's far more annoying shit in critical than them.

You just reminded me. I fucking hate the lock on system in this game. In previous games you could lock on and press a button while moving the right analog stick to change to an enemy in a specific direction. In this game, you can only press a button to cycle through enemies with no control over which one you're changing to. So to lock on to a specific enemy, you have to de-lock, get in their face, and re-lock. You cannot lock on to an enemy that is too far past the edge of the camera's field of view, even if it's the only enemy and even if it's right behind you. When you do lock on to an enemy and they're at, or just outside of, the edge of the camera's field of view, the camera just sort of gently moves to focus on them, rather than snapping to them with urgency as it should during combat.

And I may as well post this from the other thread since it's on page 14.

Critical with critical converter is okay. Even during other special shit, like form changes, team attacks, links/summons and whatnot you aren't invincible like with the Disney rides. It's no KH2FM, but it's decent.

The heavens area of Olympus is really fucking small compared to how they made it look in the trailers with the skydiving shit. And there's zero platforms that have to be skydived to in order to be reached.

Only halfway through Twilight Town.

>Team attacks make you nigh invincible by making you very hard to hit.

>Flowmotion, wall running, auto-step climbing, etc. have destroyed what platforming the game could have had.

>You cannot turn off the glowing walls.

>They brought in the Olympus Titans, but not once do you see the cyclops.

>Unlike previous games, you can aerial combo forever without have to touch the ground.

>Sora still sticks his landings, but there's a much shorter delay before you can take other actions after landing than previous games.

>Despite axing all the Final Fantasy characters, those characters are still referenced, FF monsters and other FF references are still used often for Gummi ships, and they've doubled down on FF spells.

>They removed the hole in the wall leading to the woods that lead to the old mansion and instead make you go through the new sewers.

>The entrance from the main plaza to the Sandlot is replaced with the entrance to the completely linear and very short sewers.

>Trying to leave the plaza to the uphill area that would've have lead to the iconic train station, and would've lead to the back alley that would've lead to the Usual Spot, now instead prompts you to leave the world.

Why did they fuck up Twilight Town so bad? There was no reason to make almost all the changes I've seen thus far. They're just ruining the iconic areas for nostalgiafags.

Jesus fuck. I thought I was halfway through Twilight Town. I was at the fucking end. The world is even smaller than it was in 2. you can't even enter the mansion.

Gummi missions are shit, exploration is tedious, you can't get S-ranks, you can't warp to gummi missions, you can't turn all the way up or down in exploration mode, there's no medals, colored enemy ships don't drop special items, and there's three kinds of missions: Kill as much as possible within the time limit, kill X heartless as fast as possible, and beat the boss. Everything about the gummi sections of the game is SHIT save for customization and the ability to easily get mythril materials from asteroids.

>Beat the game on critical about level 30 something

>No colosseum in sight

>Ending was retarded

>Xehanorts's new VA is shit

>Gets talked down from ultimate power

>The final set of bosses is decent

>The final boss rush is underwhelming, as this game has no giant monster like 1 and 2 did

>Secret movie

>Xigbar was Luxu all along and has been hopping from body to body for who knows how long

>He takes back the No Name keyblade after Xehanort dies

>He had the mystery box the whole time

>He used unknown bullshit to bring back the four masters from the prequel movie

>They mention the Master who led the Dandelions didn't get brought back

>Maleficient and Pete watch from the distance

>Beating the game unlocks 14 battlegates

>11 of them are basic enemies you've fought before

>One has wizard nobodies from KH2

>One has a single berserker nobody from KH2 at the end

>You can no longer steal its weapon and it's far less agressive than those in KH2

>BG 14 is a new heartlesss as an optional boss

>Beating the battlegates unlocks this game's secret reports and selfie poses

>This game's secret reports are by Luxu

>Ventus, Roxas, and Xion are all in Sora's head

>Ventus leaves Sora's head and goes back to his body

>Aqua and Ventus didn't age in 10 years

>Roxas leaves Sora's head and steals the replica body that was meant for Namine

>Xion was one of Xehanort's 13 darknesses

>This means he brought her heart through time and put it in a replica

>So now Xion is back too

>Namine gets a replica body at the end of the game

>Everyone is happy-go-lucky (Except Kairi because Sora is missing) on the beach at Destiny Islands

>It's completely ignored and forgotten that there's another Xion still stuck in Sora's head

>KH1 JP had: Leon, Yuffie, Cloud (the three in different combinations), Hercules, and Hades for 5 optional bosses

>KH1 EN added: Sephiroth, Kurt Ziza, The Phantom, Ice Titan, Rock Titan for a total of 10 optional bosses

>KH1FM added a Xemnas fight for a total of 11 optional bosses

>KH2 had: Leon, Yuffie, Tifa, Cloud (the four in different combinations) Hercules, Pete (much stronger in the coliseum) and Sephiroth for 6 optional bosses

>KH2FM added the remaining five organization memebers as optional bosses, harder versions of all of Org 13 as optional bosses, and Linger Will for a total of 25 optional bosses

>KH3 only has a single optional boss, and it's post game

Not counting Tidus, Wakka, Selphie, and Riku at the beginning of KH1 as they're hardly fights and Hades & Cerberus in KH2 because they were also story fights and are no different in the colosseum as far as I can remember

>KH1 had 24 story boss fights before the final world, 1 in the final world before the final boss rush and 6 in the final boss rush for a total of 31 story boss fights

>KH2 had 31 story boss fights before the final world, 5 in the final world before the final boss rush, and 3 in the final boss rush for a total of 39 story boss fights

>KH2FM added Roxas as a story boss fight for a total of 6 in the final world and a new total of 40 story boss fights

>KH3 has 18 story boss fights before the final world, 13 in the final world before the final boss rush, and 3 in the final boss rush for a total of 34 story boss fights

Not counting lock, shock, & barrel in KH1&2 or the Struggle fights, the hyenas, and the first Grim Reaper fight in KH2, as they're hardly fights. For KH3 the Lich is counted as one boss, as the differences between each of its seven very short fights are minimal. Many of the end game boss fights come in triples or pairs, but if you die after killing one or two of them the remaining bosses will have full health again. They also get more agressive the less of them there are so the fight doesn't necessarily become increasingly easy. I count each of these as multiple fights for each boss. Ice and Lava titans come together, but don't function that way, so I count them as one boss. The semifinal Xehanort fight has three phases and will start you out at beginning of the phase you died in, but they all use the same health bar. This is counted as one boss. The final boss rush is the series of bosses after the final save point in each game.

And a list of the totals

>KH1 JP: 36 bosess

>KH1 EN: 41 bosses

>KH1FM: 42 bosses

>KH2: 45 bosses

>KH2FM: 65 bosses

>KH3: 35 bosses

Kingdom Hearts 3 arguably has less boss fights than vanilla Japanese Kingdom Hearts 1.

>Hundred acre wood only has one area, no chests, and all minigames are just slightly different versions of the same game

>And that game is just a permutation of common browser game

>KH1 had 3 minigames outside of Hundred Acre Wood and 5 in it for a total of 8 minigames

>KH2 had 15 minigames outside of Hundred Acre Wood and 5 in it for a toal of 20 minigames

>KH2FM added 13 more for the mushroom 13 to make a new total of 33 minigames

>KH3 has 14 minigames outside of Hundred Acre Wood and 3 in it for a total of 17 minigames

Not counting the Struggle and the Chasm of Challenges in KH2. Classic Kingdom is only counted as one, as they are very small and you're not even required to set any score, let alone a high score, to complete them in the journal. That's right. You can start one, immediately fail, and that's counted.

I've 100%ed the game. Overall the game was okay. Not even close to KH2FM, or even KH2. About on par with KH1 in some ways, but still worse than it in several.

Most Disney/Pixar party members have an ability called Team Effort. It costs of a fucking whopping 50 AP and lets you do their team attack at the beginning of a fight. Their AP maxes at 30 at a very low level and the sum of all their other abilities only costs 25. Team effort was supposed to cost 5 AP, not 50. This still has not been fixed since the game came out, since nobody gives a fuck about Disney/Pixar characters' abilities.

They wasted a lot of time making things really pretty in wide open areas with barely anything actually in them. The only world where that attention to detail can really be appreciated is Toy Story/The Toy Box. Previous games were much smaller but they made efficient use of their space. KH3 squanders it's space and halfway falls for the open world meme. Heres a breakdown mostly of what I haven't already covered for each Disney/Pixar world

>Hercules/Olympus

>Thebes is okay

>Most of the world is a boring mountain

>Olympus is not nearly as expansive as the trailers would lead you to believe

>No fucking colossuem

>Toy Story/The Toy Box

>Actually decent

>Three different bosses

>Mechs to fool around in

>Andy's room is nicely detailed

>Area in front of Andy's house is pretty boring

>Toy store is great

>Three floors

>Toy shops you can enter

>QT doll girl as a boss

>Lots of details

>Tangled/Kingdom of Corona

>Entirely forests except for the town which you don't spend more than few moments in during the story

>Rocky area where you're supposed to follow Rapunzel and use her hair to swing from place to place, but it's poorly designed and you can skip most of it just jumping around on your own

>They even fucking give you the "jump up non-runnable walls" ability as soon as you get there, practically encouraging you to tell Rapunzel to fuck off

>There's a large fairly detailed mine in the background of one area that you cannot go to all

>Monstropolis/ Monsters Inc.

>May as well have called it Monster Inc., not Monstropolis, as you never leave Monsters Inc.

>Randall doesn't turn heartless and basically has no effect on the plot as everything substantial is Vanitas' doing, except for one time Randall pretends to be a door

>Sully bodies Vanitas, throws him through a door, and that door through a door, and that door through a door, and that door through a door, and that door through a door, and woodchips that door. Good shit.

>Pretty decent overall. Only characters that appear are Sully, Mike, Boo, Randall, and some generic CDA agents

>Frozen/Arendelle

>Fucking snowy mountains everywhere

>Sora has no effect on the story whatsoever

>He, Donald, and Goofy are just there in the background as many of the events of the movie take place

>The whole of Let It Go plays

>A chunk of Do You Wanna Build a Snowman plays

>The bad guy of the movie has zero voice acting, barely any presence, and just suddenly turns into a heartless at the end after his sword breaks

>The boss fight has a pair of unskippable cutscenes that play midfight, and you have to watch them twice

>Upon returning, if you re-enter the ice labyrinth from a certain save point and go through a certain doorway, the path behind you closes for no concievable reason.

>If you enter from elsewhere, the doorway and another nearby are closed

>If you decide to return to the mountain top, you can walk up to the front door of Elsa's ice palace

>You cannot enter, despite the area being on the minimap

>There's a certain material that must be farmed in Arendelle

>It only drops at a 20% chance by breaking the tail of a large ice/bone dragon of which there are only three of in the whole world

>Pirates of the Carribean

>Port Royal is pretty nice and has a lot of detail

>There's a large underwater area at the port that has only a single fucking chest in it

>Sailing around is nice

>Despite the story implying you will do so, you cannot head to the Pirate's Cove

>In fact, all other areas in the world are just random islands

>Many of the islands on the map aren't even explorable, just being large rocks with nothing in, on, or around them

>San Fransokyo/Big Hero Six

>Story pretty much railroads you the entire way not allowing you to explore the city until the world is complete

>And with good reason, exploring the city is dull as fuck

>Lots of detail in some areas, but really nothing special when open cities have been done hundreds of times by other games

>Not even that large of a city, and exploring it is boring

Now there's the added fact that they definitely rushed this game out to make their fiscal year look better. It's why shit like Critical wasn't in to begin with, photo limit was very low, and the secret movie didn't come out until, I think, a week or two after the game. They may say it was "to prevent spoilers", but that's bull. Nobody fucking does that. It was delayed because it wasn't finished. Lots of stuff that would have easily been ironed out with some simple playtesting. You also only visit each Disney/Pixar world once. There's supposed to be DLC coming out that adds a new episode to each world. Probably more content that was originally planned to be out at release. There's going to be both paid and free DLC, but they haven't announced what it what yet. I'd wholly support them releasing Final Mix as a fairly priced DLC, since it's a step up from releasing the whole game at full price like previous final mixes. But you shouldn't be giving Squeenix, kuSony, or Microshit your money.

>>16559095

>And I may as well post this from the other thread since it's on page 14

It's about time that 2 month old thread finally died.

>>16559113

Don't jinx it.

>>16558304

Kingdom Hearts 1 had the best combat, 2 was crazily OP and had a retarded punish (nigger Sora) system. 3 looks like an op sloppy mix of things.

The spin-offs mostly had okay combat except for all the retarded spells.

>>16558246

Riku is a good, cool character who can get shit done on his own without going edgy once he learns humility and that darkness isn't evil.

Sora is honestly a good guy and underdog (taught himself how to fight by playing with a toy sword and evolved it to accomplish major things before ever getting any training) who needs to find down playing the hero and at least get to fuck Kairi once in his probably short life, especially when Riku and Mickey can easily take his place.

Finally, the first few games have shown Disney surprisingly has a good amount of enjoyable worlds and villains to fight alongside beloved Disney friends against their enemies with fearsome new power in an RPG world hopping heroes are needed for. Just sucks it's almost always some shitty retelling with an occasional few surprises.

Roxas had a hard life that he originally wasn't even allowed to have according to lore, but that now thankfully seems to be over.

>>16559066

Same. All I humbly want is more playable characters, more bosses, post game challenges, fucking Final Fantasy characters back and some obtainable proper conclusion that lets Sora get at least a fucking year of kicking back and holding hands while watching the sun set with Kairi until him and Riku have to do more shit.

>>16559066

Nomura probably wanted them to kiss but since KH2 he's been getting death mail from Fujoshits who want AkuRoku or SoKu to become canon, sort of like the Eddie/Venom crowd but even more autistic

The REEEEing after 358 came out was glorious

>>16566786

For a second I thought by "taking his place" you meant that they would fuck Kairi instead.

The whole mastering darkness because darkness can be just as good was a terrible deus ex machina idea.

>>16558246

> the story is a convoluted mess that's stretched out several generations on Soyny and Nintendo consoles, the characters are either dialed up animu power of friendship retardation or edgy faggotry

This is the good part. Laughing at the retarded bullshit is fun.

>the music is forgettable or a remix of something for the most part.

Fuck you die in a fire. Shimomura is a musical genius,.

>>16558240

I can't believe i didn't hear about it until it was too late. Fuck my God dammed nigger self.

>>16558871

>critical mode dlc

You're kidding me right?

>>16570016

It came in a patch.

>roxas after his chad awakening will be playable

That's not nearly enough for me to genuinely consider putting down the money for a soyny 4 or an xbone, but that's still pretty neat

>>16570108

Only for that one boss fight.

>>16558246

It's ok as a time waster.

I started to play KH1 and it is ok. People say KH2 is the best but from what I know most people who like the new stuff is fags and women.

>>16571876

2 is largely considered the best because it has so much stuff and came out at the tail end of a generation, making it prime footnote material. It was, however, when the series really cemented itself as fujoshit and emo kid bait.

Nothing says GAMR like mixing mickey mouse and final fantasy. It's like you are a handicapped child given mixmatched toys by an uncaring parent, and missing they don't belong together.

>>16559066

Well, story kinda implies that they grew out of each other. They might be still friends, but Sora's Destiny lies rather with Riku (No Homo) and Kairi is busy "practicing" with Axel anyway.

The star fruit scene is actually a good example, as Kairi takes a bite of what can be seen as a symbol of a wedding ring, but Sora doesn't. He just don't give a shit about Kairi anymore and would rather play Winnie The Pooh minigames all over the galaxy. Maybe he grew up with a crash at the only girl on the Island (who wasn't 7 years old) and it was kinda a rivalry (in love) with them Riku mate, but as Sora grew through his hormon aided phase, he rather Something Something Darkness, that being all lovey dovey with the former, now completely retired Damsel in Distress.

>>16583868

forgot to greentext. shit. whatever

i want to fuck the heartless

>>16583868

>Prove me wrong.

You can't.

Tell me Goofy and Sora can go SSJ.

>>16583868

Wait, Super ended?

>>16599633

>>16599633

Yes