/v/ - Happy E3

>>16546089

Archive didn't work properly, use this link instead

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>>16546089

>>16546093

All their stuff is on GOG and a pretty decent market share

Steam was what pretty much made them mainstream successful in the first place.

>>16546089

So it's about something that makes people turn into illithids? Mite b cool. At least it's more interesting than BG1's bandits and spiders.

Since it's getting a DRM free release I guess I'll pirate it.

>>16546116

As far as I'm aware, Illithid have always reproduced by implanting their larva into living creatures. Not sure if this speed of growth is normal though.

>>16546116

>>16546135

Ceremorphosis it's called, it's how they're born (implant parasitic "tadpole", eat and replace the brain, then transfigure the body).

Takes a while though (but it's typically the kind of thing you can speed up for convenience sake).

who cares?

What are Beamdog doing then, leasing the license and collecting shekels?

http://archive.ph/97Bfw

5E based.

>>16546161

They're apparently making a WW2 game.

>>16546173

That was Beamdog, not Larian.

>>16546173

That was Beamdog, this is Larian, completely different studios.

>>16546178

>>16546176

I'm stillamazed Beamdog has no relation to this

Thank fucking Christ

>>16546180

>Not knowing it's on PC

>Not knowing it already has a fucking page on GOG

Read nigger, read.

>>16546180

It's on PC you tard

>just started BG1 again

Huh.

I have no idea how this is going to turn out, but this is probably the only game that I'm interested in from the current year.

>>16546181

Beamdog doesn't make games, they just pretend they do.

That said, the EE of BG1 has some nice QoL changes.

>>16546186

no u

>>16546190

>interested

I'd say I'm cautiously optimistic. It'll probably suck, but there's a chance it could turn out well. JUst have to wait and see.

>>16546190

>Beamdog doesn't make games

I never said they did

I just thought they owned the trademark and thus were working with Larian, but apparently they just own the rights for the older games.

I don't want them to have any relation whatsoever with anything, incompetent SJW tranny fucks.

>>16546198

bye /tv/

>>16546182

https://www.gog.com/game/baldurs_gate_iii

GoG page says single player only.

>>16546116

>illithids

tippity top shit

but didn't Divinity: Original Sin have some poz in it? I thought there was something that soured me on trying it

>tfw can't get into isometric clicky cRPGs.

>>16546240

What's the problem?

Let's hope the gameplay is better than in D:OS2. Not gonna waste time with another sponge-centric shitpile

>>16546266

It's 5E based with the minimum of changes needed to fit a video game

>>16546166

>>16546250

I don't enjoy them. They don't hold my interest for long but I know I'm missing a bunch of good stuff.

>>16546089

>Not on Epic store

Here goes obligatory "this isn't something that's supposed to make the game better by not existing". How about you say something of substance? Pretty weak for OP.

>>16546306

Stay mad chink.

>>16546308

>literally defending 1 sentence 2 collocation OP

It's probably not "always online" and without microtransactions, I think you should pre-order it ASAP.

>>16546278

Fair enough.

If you ever decide to give them another shot, try either BG1 (Enhanced Edition is fine, just stay away from the new companions) or Icewind Dale (much harder, but much better too).

>>16546314

The OP contained literally everything known about the game when it was posted.

icewind dale 3 when

>>16546327

Pointing out that link is broken and giving a replacement is literally in the second post and the only key point was copy pasted.

>>16546336

So, uh, the key point is that it's not on Epic store? Why did this deserve the thread? The old one did not hit the bump limit yet. Reporting the thread for deletion.

>>16546227

I don’t remember much pozz but I was also playing with 3 other people and we participated in a lot of stupid shit for kicks like having gay lizard sex then murdering the gay lizard to cover it up

The only thing I can remember off the top of my head was a woman asking you to save her wife from a bunch of paladins

>>16546189

you realize its going to be full of gay shit. D&D has always been a conduite for the progressive agenda. Hopefully Larian keeps the poz to a minimum but I somehow doubt it.

>>16546227

The whole game was fine up until the end, where all that gay shit suddenly spikes ruining the whole mood the game had previously.

At least it's not Beamdog making it.

I guess now would probably be a good time to finally get around to playing BG2 and Original sin for that matter

>>16546139

Then stop posting and kill yourself, defeatist cuck

>no gameplay footage

They do realize they're supposed to be realeasing a GAME, right?

People often talk about how the crpg genre has had a renaissance, but in reality very few of the recent ones have been successful. How do these game studios convince anybody to invest?

>>16546554

I would say this is excusable as one of the main elements of Baldur's Gate is the plot, so even if they don't show us the trailer, they do show us a bit of the most important element the people are looking towards to.

Pozz bingo, "Gray romance" as free space?

>>16546554

Eh, rpgs are all about the plot and characters talking. Combat was never good.

Is there anyway to get unpozzed versions of the Baldurs Gate games? I only played a little of the first one way back when it was a relatively new game. I wanted to go back and play them recently, but I heard that only the Pozzed Beamdog versions can be purchased.

>>16546089

never played baldurs gate before, got interessed in this one because larian studio.

what are this games about?

>>16546566

>Baldur's Gate

>rpgs

There's no character creation, there're no choices in quests aside from "I won't do it" or not talking to the quest giver in the first place, no branching, etc.

There are plenty actual roleplaying video games that have good combat. Well, not plenty, but they exist.

>>16546166

What is the grognard consensus on 5E?

>>16546572

It's a bit complicated to describe without spoiling anything, they are forgotten realms games, but generally you should just play them yourself. The first game is visibly rushed but from what I heard the second is pretty good.

>>16546575

>There's no character creation

But that's a fucking lie.

>>16546166

Would being 5E base affect gameplay? I know many people say 5E fucked story stuff up in forgotten realms, but I don't know how that would change story other than modern pozz stuff

>>16546578

Even more dumbed down than 4e and solves none of the problems that 3.5 made. In fact, 4e in retrospect was a fine game if you didn't mind it being hard leaning on the gamey/narrative side of things.

>>16546582

How did you get a pretty spanish lady?

>>16546582

>>16546584

Uh-oh, "a lie" they say. It's not like you play Gorion's Ward every time, right? Feel free to discuss the rest of my post instead of latching onto one thing.

>>16546571

>only the Pozzed Beamdog versions can be purchased

The solution seems obvious.

>>16546582

>Fighter

>15 str

>17 wis & cha

Dear lord.

>>16546587

I don't understand people when they say 4E is "video-gamey". That's all I hear people say about it.

>>16546595

Haha, I'm not much of a sailor so I guess the obvious solution slipped by me

>>16546596

The ability and skill lists look like they were ripped straight from WoW circa 2008.

>>16546575

Dragon's Dogma is not an rpg.

>>16546604

>I did, literally everything you've said is wrong.

Well, I say it's correct. I don't think you're able to disprove it.

>>16546584

>It's a bit complicated to describe without spoiling anything

okay, thematically then, is the plot about eldrich horrors or that is a thing exclusive for 3?

Didn't you cleaned the city from the mindflayer home in the sewers?

>the chink is still desperately trying to derail the thread

Every time.

>>16546596

The essential complaint is that every single combat ability runs on a cooldown - you have at-wills (which you can always use and are simple), encounter powers, (Which you can use once an encounter and are slightly more complex) and Daily powers (Which can only be used once per day and are huge showstoppers).

In reality this means that everyone in combat can contribute, not just Joe Angel Summoner And His Thirty Actions A Turn. When you actually sit down and play it's really fun and enjoyable, outside of combat flows very much like normal-ass DnD. Most of the other changes are made to encourage teamwork, contribution possibility by any class, and yet also differentiating the classes.

I can go more in depth, but I think that sums it up.

>>16546601

Did 4E fix any of peoples problems with 3/3.5?

I'm new to game and I've only played 5 and 3.75(Pathfinder). I tend to like 3.75 more but that's mostly because 5E doesn't do class mixes well. 3.5 having classes that mix two other ones together tends to be better than multi-classing in 5E

>>16546613

>ad hominem

>derail the thread

>by discussing Baldur's Gate

Bottom text.

>>16546578

You know, its stupid, but i heard even Pathfinder is better than 5E. That says something.

>>16546618

The main problem it fixes is caster supremacy by making everyone Sort Of A Caster Kinda. If you don't mind that and it leaning hard into that gameyness, it's alright.

>>16546624

Pathfinder the Russian coke fueled video game, or Pathfinder pen and paper? If it's the latter that's really bad.

>>16546615

Sounds like they grounded casters with that and wanted people to actually use team tactics.

Which I'm sure people just didn't want to do; they just want to Nuke shit with spells

>>16546618

>Did 4E fix any of peoples problems with 3/3.5?

Only if your only issues were "everyone scales differently" and "skill points are too hard to keep track of", maybe "player abilities allow smashing the game world" if you see heavily restricting the ability of PCs to do anything special out of combat a "fix"

>>16546629

P&P pathfinder was heavily based on 3.5 system (that you might know from N&N2 for example). 5E is hated even by freaks who play P&P pathfinder.

>>16546634

I do like how they made Wizards more flexible.

You get more abilities and get what amounts to a sideboard you can swap out with a long rest, but set out in the morning with the same number of abilities as everyone else. Not to mention that you have four broad archetypes:

>Controller (Large area effects and enemy control/moving them around.

>Defender (Tank. …That's all it is. But you essentially tank by giving the enemy no-win "Hit ME or else I fuck you over" situations)

>Striker (DPS. High damage output in various ways.)

>Leader (Healer. Martial healer is actually incredible, being a tactical leader with all sorts of crazy bullshit. Bravura warlord is practically a fighter who yells a lot at his party to get shit done.)

>>16546644

>You get more abilities and get what amounts to a sideboard you can swap out with a long rest, but set out in the morning with the same number of abilities as everyone else.

You could do that in 3.5. You could leave spell slots unprepared and fill them in 15 mins as you learned what you'd need for the day (fire dungeon? Better prep Pretection From Fire). It's just no video game ever included this.

>>16546644

Why couldn't they just bring that variety over to 5E? All of those arch-types sound fun

>>16546663

Because 5e was made for women too stupid to understand complex rules

https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/955153201434525696

>>16546089

>made by Larian

>a company that never made a game with good writing

It's going to be a cringeworthy mess of bad jokes and fenceshitting political kvetching.

Friendly reminder that Baldur's Gate has literally never been good.

>>16546599

They are porting BG to consul

>>16546663

Broadly speaking, 4e sorts classes by that archetype and their source of power. So for example…

>Martial:

>As far as I remember they never gave Martial a controller.

>Defender: WARRIOR here. Sub-types include "Dude with big weapon", "Dude with shield", "Dude with one bare hand for grapples"

>Striker: Rogue, who deals extra damage when they have Combat Advantage. DMs are encouraged to hand this shit out like fucking candy, it's a +2 bonus that means you have the upper hand - everything from flanking to status effects like knocking the enemy down grants it. Also has a variant that uses maces instead of daggers.

>Leader: Warlords, who are tactical masterminds and combat leaders. They move your allies or enemies around, command other allies to make an extra simple attack out of turn, 'heal' other allies with moral support, etc. Lots of variants.

>>16546708

okay, warriors are called Fighters. Sorry, been binging early Final Fantasys lately.

>>16546713

It has its faults, but it's not a bad game.

>>16546689

>>16546713

So whats the best one then, jackass?

>>16546724

Temple of Elemental Evil.

>>16546726

I only like BG for multiplayer hilarity, ToEE was made by faggots who think D&D should be offline for some reason regardless of game quality. All of the Kickstarter "muh BG spiritual sequel" niggers were the same way. Larian is the only dev that does multi.

>>16546724

Exile III: Ruined World

>>16546735

Geneforge was far superior.

>>16546737

Oh look, here's one of those faggots now. It was great fun if you don't have the attention span of a fruit fly. Larian basically took it and fine-tuned aspects of it, and Divinity blew up for that reason.

>>16546730

You cannot just enter classic western rpg sequel thread and expect good replies to your weeb tastes.

Nips make good fighting games though.

>>16546611

The first two are more about Gods.

>>16546753

>comment section

Have you never seen Twitter before or something? Those are just the incestuous communists who follow each other vomiting in each others mouths, not "comments".

>>16546761

Tolerating leftists.

>>16546756

>You cannot just enter classic western rpg sequel thread and expect good replies.

<considering the typical people who like wrpgs are trannies and faggots.

Your sentence could have ended there.

>>16546761

D&D was always cucked from day one.

>>16546634

>Sounds like they grounded casters with that and wanted people to actually use team tactics.

Yeah. When they say "video gamey" they mostly mean it feels more like MMO class balance. Every class works the same in regards to having at-will, encounter and daily powers to use, but additionally all classes can be broadly grouped in tank, dps and support classifications. Obviously there's wiggle room, but this is broadly the case. Classes can also be built slightly differently and maybe have a different "role" in the party based on what main stat you choose to focus on. It's been a while and I never played it a lot, but for example you might choose to be a Strength paladin or a Charisma paladin, and your role in the party could change considerably, since many of the powers you get (the at-will, encounter and daily powers) have mainstat requirements to power up. So, as a paladin of any build you might have access to a particular class power, but its effectiveness would be based on, say, your charisma, so a strength-build paladin couldn't use it as effectively.

The combat rules also necessitate a grid, as many abilities move you or your opponents, positioning matters a lot more and is central to how things work. A lot of that could just be kind of hand-waved in earlier editions if you didn't want to worry about it that much, but in 4E they seem to have started by trying to create a battle system and then built the rest of the architecture around it. There are also changes to how healing works, with every player able to self-heal to some extent with healing surges based on class and constitution, and this system was meant to minimize downtime between encounters. A lot of the changes were meant to streamline the whole experience, I think, such that you wouldn't have your party's mage crying that everyone needs to take an eight hour break after literally every single fight so he could re-memorize his seven Wish and twelve Chain Contingency spells or whatever.

I think they had a lot of good ideas going into 4E, but people weren't getting what they expected out of a DnD product. Like how Dragon Quarter is the best Breath of Fire game by far when taken as an individual product, but gets hate because it's not much of a Breath of Fire game.

>>16546745

The unique setting and worldbuilding alone made it a superior game. Then you had the pokemon tier monster creation, wildly different endings, crisp pre-rendered sprites which were easier to read than the pixelshit of Exile. The list goes on.

>>16546764

The RPGMaker perspective sucks donkey balls. Despite running a kikestarter to make his OC look better it somehow looks worse than the games he did in the early 00s. Just pure garbage.

>>16546765

>considering the typical people who like wrpgs are trannies and faggots.

Say that to a slav and he will punch your skull, hack your credit card and buy vodka on all your money. Only then to piss on you when he will return from the bank.

>>16546771

>pre-rendered sprites

>crisp

Two phrases that should never be uttered together. Pixel-precise sprites are the definition of crisp. Downscaled fugly pre-rendered 3D is not.

>>16546777

pidor daun using contactless

>literally stealing your money while beating you

)))))

I've been meaning to play these games for a long time. I guess now is a good time. Anything a complete noob like me should know before diving in?

>>16546764

Is it a re-re-remake? Recently I re-played the avernum trilogy (pre-blades) and found that I enjoyed it more than post-blades avernum series. Also early geneforge is pretty good. Can't believe that spidereeb games are still a thing

>>16546572

I'll summarize the plot outline for the first game. I'm putting it in a spoiler just in case, but it's nowadays as much of a spoiler as the fact that Darth Vader is Luke's father.

The gameplay is that of a party-based real-time with pause game. You create your character, go around, talk to people, kill shit, have other characters join you and the usual stuff. It uses AD&D 2nd Edition rules and is set in the Forgotten Realms setting, but don't worry if none of that means anything for you, it's not really important.

In the FR setting there was a time when the gods were made mortal by the main god Ao, and wandered the moral world. This is know as the time of troubles and it caused a lot of turmoil with some old gods dying a mortals ascending in their place. One of those gods was Baahl, the god of murder. He foresaw his own death though, so he left a series of demigod children who would be driven by the essence of their father to commit bloodshed and fuel is rebirth.

The first game has you find out that you are one of those children. You uncover a conspiracy about an upcoming war orchestrated by another child of Baahl.

The second game has you face the consequences of your heritage and learn to harness its power. The expansion to the second game concludes the story with basically a war for the succession of your father's power.

The first game is quite rough around the edges and quite a slog until you get the good abilities, but that's nothing that cannot be fixed with a bit of modding.

>>16546790

Nope, this one's an all-new idea. Hopefully Jeff doesn't fuck it up refusing to put in numpad movement like he did the Avadon games. Has an interesting idea for character building too. Instead of simply leveling up you gotta build infrastructure.

>>16546785

HOLY SHIT YOU FAGGOT RUSKIES THE FIRST DOUBLE DOT DOEST COUNT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>16546762

>Have you never seen Twitter before or something?

Have generally avoided it since the ZionDon election cycle

>>16546797

I'll probably give it a shot but knowing Jeff it will most likely be a copy-paste job ie. Beware of the dragon kikes

>>16546788

Don't dual class unless you know exactly what you're doing. Multiclassing is usually a safe choice though.

Pure classes can be a bit dull, but are the safest choice.

Casters suck dick early on but become walking gods at higher levels.

You'll find party members who can perform every role in the game, so just play whatever you want.

Icewind Dale can be a lot harder than it initially looks, so have some experience before you jump into it.

>>16546790

>Can't believe that spidereeb games are still a thing

He's pandering to the old Bioware audience, they stopped making games like that many years ago and soon will stop making games entirely it seems, and nobody else is filling that hole. So he's managed to make a steady profit by making games for that crowd. It will be interesting to see if he can still keep it up in a point in time where BG3 is a thing.

>>16546817

Jeff Vogel isn't making Metal Slug, not even the flatscreen version of it. And I'm not saying Metal Slug looks bad, just that hipsters making pixelshit didn't get what it was even supposed to look like.

>>16546836

Too bad Robin Hood was piss easy if you didn't give a shit about not killing.

>>16546836

>still no Brandenburger game that plays like Commandos 2

Life is cruel and unfair.

>>16546836

They're not truly isometric, but yeah, they were almost always great looking. When the shift to full 3D happened the genres using these started to look like shit. RTS games, RPGs, tacical games and so on. Some looked nice anyway, like Homeworld, but most of the time they ended up with really shitty visuals and that's something I think is true to this day, they still haven't caught up to what you used to be able to do with pre-rendered backgrounds.

>>16546836

>>16546854

Full 3d eats performance way too much even if you can handle it. If anything top-down games like this should adopt some sort of mix of 2D and 3D.

>>16546877

>If anything top-down games like this should adopt some sort of mix of 2D and 3D

IIRC Commandos 3 did that.

>>16546777

I just found video of that slav

>>16546973

>implying being a virgin isnt a good thing

>>16546973

What does that have to do with anything, ma'am?

But will there be a tranny?

>>16547014

To be fair, there's really not many RPG studios out there I'd trust to make a good sequel to BG2 these days. Most of the ones I'd consider (Iron Tower, Underrail guy, ATOM developers) lack the manpower and resources to tackle such a big project.

>>16547054

>Underrail guy

Trying to 1:1 old CPRG is fucking retarded.

>>16547086

That's why he made it better than the old ones.

>>16547135

Outdated in what way? It's more polished than any old CRPG. There isn't a single good 3D RPG, so I don't see in relation to what it's supposed to be outdated.

>>16547156

>>16547165

>Some low-level game dev hates the goobergoys

Find me a dev studio where this is not true. The real question is how much influence this person actually has on the game.

>>16547164

Because it still utilized the same barebones mechanics and into and presentation mechanics.

>>16547165

>writer

Explains why the writing in every Larian game is dogshit.

>>16546116

You idiot, BG1 had great writing. Better than bg2, but less flashy. You're the kind of person who thinks WoW's art style looks good.

>>16547399

BG1 was more in the background than in BG2 so that made it better alone, but it was pretty uneven. You have some reddity writing and other quite neat and subtle things going on. It's funny though, the Icewind Dale games were better written than the BG games, despite the dungeon crawling focus.

>>16547415

>reddity writing

I can't argue there… There was a little bit of cringy material. But in terms of being 'pozzed', there isn't really anything to speak of, besides the D&D system where women are as strong as men. Khalid and Jaheira may seem like gurlpower propaganda (weak timid husband, overly aggressive wife) - but that type of character dynamic is old as time, and is meant to be funny.

>>16546814

How similar is this game to Divinity: OS?

>>16547446

>But in terms of being 'pozzed', there isn't really anything to speak of

More a sign of the times than anything else tbh. If it was made today you can be sure it would be just as shit as Siege of Dragonspear.

>>16546788

Playing evil is a shit option in the BG games, especially the first. Because despite seeming like a legit choice the game will fuck your ass if you do it. Also, the beamdog versions are SHIT, get the original ones.

>>16547453

You mean the infinity engine games? They're very different. D:OS was more inspired by Ultima, took a lot from the original Divine Divinity game and it was also turnbased.

>>16547460

>the beamdog versions are SHIT, get the original ones

While Beamdog did insert their own cancer into the EE of BG1 which is awful, I disagree since you can easily avoid their garbage and enjoy some QoL changes that they introduced.

>>16547472

The very best option imo is the Beamdog EE version, with Sword Coast Stratagems mod. Unfortunately, the mod has some features you should disable, and mod setup contains spoilers, so a first time player would need someone to set it all up for them.

>>16547399

I wasn't talking about writing, I was talking about enemy variety. Fighting yet another group of Black Talon mercs gets pretty boring. I actually like BG1's writing, and the overall atmosphere of the game is great too. Doppelgangers are fucking cool.

It's just that you spend the first two thirds of the game fighting kobolds, bandits and spiders, and not much else.

>>16547472

The EEs didn't really do anything that mods didn't already do for free, there's very little reason to play them and no reason at to pay for them.

>>16547472

They replaced the neat pre-rendered cinematics with PowerPoint presentations in BG1. They completely fucked all of the combat balance with the changes they did. They introduced bugs that weren't in the original games. They added cancer characters. The new renderer they wrote may be zoomable but it makes everything look like blurry garbage. By default there's black outlines around everything. You can easily highlight shit in BG1 and find cheesy items that were supposed to be hidden.

There's just not a single reason to play the beampozz versions of the infinity engine games.

>>16547565

>Soundless webm

No anon, you are the trash

>>16547565

>garbage meme studio that can't into interesting writing or setting

Just like 90s and early 00s Bioware you mean?

>calling it Baldur's Gate 3 even though it will have no real ties to the earlier entries

Lmao, does your dad work at Larian? We know nothing about the plot yet besides there being an ilithid invasion. And even the vague cinematic teaser had Baldur's Gate and a Bhaal reference.

>muh lovecraftshit

It really is a breath of fresh air at this point.

>>16547580

>SW: BG3 is set directly after Baldur’s Gate: Descent into Avernus, which is the recently-announced pen-and-paper campaign from Wizards of the Coast, and is launching in September. We worked on it together – the principal writer of that campaign came to Ghent for quite some time, and we spent a lot of time at the Wizards offices – so if you play that campaign you will see references to it in BG3. However, BG3 is also the next chapter in what happens to Baldur’s Gate as a city.

Pretty clear what it's going to be about, schlomo. It's literally called BG3 just because it deals with the Baldur's Gate area and is also a CRPG like the other ones.

>>16547525

Fair enough. Sorry for calling you an idiot my autism is strong.

>>16547565

>not knowing it's showing fast ceremorphosis and >not knowing what a mind flayer is

do even like dnd?

Who the fuck is "Larian"?

>>16547596

I really wish the game had nothing to do with the old BG games. You dumb faggot, they're going to revive Bhaal stuff and bring back characters from the old games. I wish they didn't, but you will be happy to hear they will likely bring back Minsc, shitbrain.

How was Dragonspear? Did any of you play it?

>>16547604

Zoomers don't even know what it is.

>>16547188

>barebone mechanics

No it didn't. It had some pretty deep skill interaction and excellent AI that would fuck you over in an instant if you didn't prepare correctly.

For example, if you were playing a stealth class it was imperative that you'd actually scout for stealthed enemies and/or lay your traps in case of a crossbow build.

>>16547620

Garbage writing, art assets stolen from some unfinished mod and pretty good encounters. If you only care about infinity engine combat it might be worth checking out.

>>16547629

As if there's anything wrong with that. The Black Hound would have been better than any of the original BG games.

>>16547630

Good to know, thanks.

>Wizards of the Coasts

>modern D&D

>continuing the Saga some fucking how?

>fucking revealing Mind-Flayers in the surface in broad daylight

Fucking dropped

They should use the Icewind Dale franchise for action, maybe a dark souls rip off and use Never Winter for generic fantasy RPG

Why are they ruining the Bhaalspawn saga now?

>>16547705

>Kids these days never did any tabletop or pen and paper shit

Don't blame them for not touching poz infested garbage

>>16546266

I hated the combat so much. You can't do shit at all in the initial phases.

>>16547730

Dark Souls was great, but the issue is that every hack copied from it.

>>16547730

>I don't like this thing because everyone like it now

You are a faggot. The annoying part is the people that meme it and From Soft beating a dead hose with it. With some luck, DS3 is actually the last Dark Soul, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were more "spiritual successors", specially since now everything is "the dark souls of X genre". See all the 2D side scrollers with Dark Souls mechanics.

To put it simple, I get that Dark Souls becoming a meme is annoying, but that doesn't make the game bad, it was good on release, and it's still good now, probably one of the last good games of this decade.

>>16547638

>>16547705

>Zoomer shit

You should probably kill yourselves.

>>16547730

>It's popular so now it's bad

You're retarded. Dark Souls is a good game, and the cancerous fanbase and numerous copycat games doesn't change that. Though I agree that they sure as fuck should not change IWD into a 3D action game.

>>16547528

Pardon my complacency, but I played the original Baldur's Gate (as a kid) , original BG1&2… picked up Steam somewhere along the way. Sigh.

Got fed up/bored with gaming in general… on a whim d/l the whole series and played through the EE (Beamdog version) again. Had a lot of fun. New OC/quests. Still playing BG2 ToB in my free time, currently. Perfect timing.

For what it is, an isometric RPG, I didn't get a bad taste from any of them except Dragonspear. Played all the EE D&D games on Steam except Planetscape and Neverwinter Nights. Wasn't triggered.

Just checked Steam: You can get BG1 (SoD - it "ties BG1&2 together" supposedly) BG2 + a ton of sound tracks, etc. for $28.

If someone hasn't played these… I feel sorry for them. Plenty of grinding, leveling, loot, 75% of the gorillion quests are fun. Everyone should at least pirate it and try it.

I am kind of new to /v/, so help me build up my hate boner for this particular game. I think it's a great recommendation for the money. Play all that shit before BG3 comes out, if you are smart.

I've put hundreds of hours into the series. No micro-transactions, you can get EEKeeper and edit everything for lulz once you beat it… then solo it again as a based God.

I get the criticism, but I wouldn't boycott this one. Just saying, after gaming for decades, this one is like Q3 for me. I always keep it installed. Lightweight, casual, what's not to like? Runs on anything.

I don't like Steam, either, but fuck it. I have like 11 games archived on it. (Portal is portable.)

<Anyway, good discussion, sorry for blogposting.

Redpill me on Steam and Beamdog if you want. I think I see them for what they are… corporate cancer. I still buy shampoo and toothpaste, tho. I don't make my own and shit.

>>16547881

Beamdog didn't just shit up BG and IWD by fucking the balance, introducing bugs and shit OC, they also removed the option for people to buy the original games. The entire reason Beamdog """enhanced""" the old IE games was to be able to hike up the price. Before they did it Baldur's Gate was super cheap on GOG all the time.

>>16547876

>Dark Souls is a good game, and the cancerous fanbase and numerous copycat games doesn't change that.

Where did I say that? Git gud at reading comprehension. By the time Dork Suls was released the formula was already stale if you ask me though, it worked once in Demon's Souls but after that it had already outstayed its welcome. The studio remaking the same game over and over again made it lose its appeal, all the cancer fanbase and copycats made me hate the formula. I didn't think Dark Souls was much good to begin with, but I really hate the meme the game has become.

>>16547881

The 'enhanced' edition is the worse version of the game. It is also more expensive, and when it was put on the market they removed the original edition.

The original writing they put into the game is noticeably worse, they introduced a number of bugs, and they broke mod compatibility. The UI is worse, and the cutscenes are worse than the original.

Overall, I think you'll find that modifying the original game with a couple of modern fixes gives a better 'remaster' than what beamdog shat out.

So where the first 2 games actually good? The oldest Bioware game I played was the first Dragon Age, and it was one of the worst games I've ever played. Awful writing, choices don't matter, and the gameplay itself was essentially just moving from room to room fighting shitty trash mobs.

tfw no illithid gf

As long as they tone down the humour, it could be worse I guess. BG is ovverrated anyways. Sven won’t answer simple questions as to isometric/etc. Can’t wait for a third person mass effect type ARPG with passive companions and cooldown timers

>>16547216

Ain't that the truth.

>>16548264

Your choices matter less in Baldur's Gate than in Dragon Age, and the gameplay is a D&D port.

>>16548264

The writing in Baldur's Gate is a whole lot less Whedonesque and in general not nearly as purile and immature. It's essentially though the same game just with more thought put into it because while Bioware, and pretty much every other studio, was way better back then they never have been able to actually make anything meaningfully different for the life of them. If DA is a GRRM game in all but name then BG is an unofficial RA Salvatore game, for better or worse.

>>16546227

Actually i remember digging up some grave and finding an anticommunist joke.

>>16546676

Its not necessarily just because women but all the libshit hipsters who are too retarded to know how to anything other than talk down to people on twitter. That and marketing towards more normalfag buyers.

>>16548488

yeah. pozz sells the best thats why all the artists move ot it.

shame how porn makes more and more cucks out of men

>>16548499

Let's not fool ourselves, what you posted is in the same camp as all of that.

For some unholy reason, the only monster porn that's sensual is yaoi/bara. Gays artists are less cucked that most straight artists now, god fucking damn.

>>16548501

This is due to the rise of something known as homoromanticism. For a long time most gay men fucked each other and that was all, there was no love. In recent times that's been changing, now there are a lot of younger men who aren't just sexually attracted to other men, but romantically attracted to other men.

>>16548501

>>16548505

Kill yourselves you subhuman faggots.

>>16548274

Imagine the blowjobs lol

>>16548488

Its inshite.

Also nothing wrong with futa.

>>16548547

Futa is literally just gay porn with tits

>>16548547

Only bisexuals are into 2d hermaphrodite anime porn. And since bisexuality isn't right or normal, having futa fetish is also wrong as well.

>>16548557

>>16548565

Wrong.

>>16546578

it won't have the instant Save or Die or the stupidly overpowered Bioware custom spells that make dealing with the endless waves bloated bullet sponge mobs somewhat tolerable.

>>16546586

No, it was 4E that fucked it up by basically having the place go through a magical apocalypse to turn it into their stupid "points of light in the wild untamed darkness" theme.

>>16548588

that's hot, my fuhrer

>>16548568

The only wrongosexual (lover of wrong sex) here is you, bub. Futas are shit.

>>16548817

Before anyone says anything - yes, but at the very end. There were black lesbian paladins in the Arx city. And Arx is like some kind of diversity utopia that is advertised entire game to you with bunch of colored paladins and dykes, only to end with few quests there to kill a man pretending to be god.

Arx began with a quest where you need to stop execution of a lesbian, but game allowed you to kill them both and consume their souls.

Its like Arx was their last minute attempt to shove in diversity because the rest of the game was lacking it.

>>16548817

This person didn't work at the studio when Divinity 2 was made. Do you mean OS2?

>>16548817

Divinity 2 =/= Divinity: Original Sin 2.

OS2 had some forced diversity shit near the end, but the rest of the game is fine.

Play the original Divinity games, they're great. Divinity 2 has a sentient female chest you can make horny.

>>16548833

Obviously he meant OS2.

>>16548833

Most retards think Divinity is just Original Sin anon, you're replying to one of them.

Kinda like the brainless niggers that pretend Might&Magic is just Heroes.

>>16548817

DOS2 was very must pozzed. You didn't hear much about that here for a few reasons.

>>16548850

The amount of negative reviews and lack of people playing it made it seem like it was a bad game when released.

>>16548850

>tfw no Irish treasure chest waifu

>>16548808

Might as well hire Josh Sawyer to go full USSR on the game design just to make sure nothing even remotely good comes out of this.

>>16548607

Too bad it never got finished.

>>16548808

>butts butts butts

I smell a goon.

>>16548879

>All trannies/sjws/dykes and their kinds.

They are not all, but they are the only ones allowed to have a voice when it comes to anything dnd.

>>16548879

I'm expecting another Pillars 2. The only reason the previous games did even remotely well is because the costs were already covered. Now that they have to actually foot a decent sized bill the hormone pill popping audience won't be enough to keep them afloat.

>>16548899

Another Pillars 2 that will sell like hotcakes unlike Pillars 2 because of big name.

>>16548808

>game is going to be written by flaming faggots

so its going to be just like the original Black Isle games?

>>16548916

And I'm saying they'll still find a way to fuck it up because they're just that retarded. If these people were capable of holding on to a successful brand and keeping the genre alive they wouldn't have to constantly close and reopen studios with the promise that this time we'll totally recapture the classic feel.

>>16548930

Crucial difference here anon. His posts are all faggoty gay homo queer shit and therefore undeniably garbage, while yours probably have more effort and thought spent on them on average.

>>16548948

Well said.

>>16548844

>Kinda like the brainless niggers that pretend Might&Magic is just Heroes.

shame on them for never experiencing glory of ARCOMAGE

>>16548971

>half a decade ago

>recent

>>16546173

that's sort of funny… Because Gamergate is a huge joke to everyone, even devs now.

>>16548978

That's recent tbh.

>>16549043

Those mobile games where you unleash an army and they do the job by themselves under a time limit, I think.

>>16548808

Fucking lol, Western devs truly are a fucking joke.

>>16549146

But they didn't? I played them and there wasn't any of this tumblrina genderspeshul bullshit in them.

>>16549326

90s progressives =/= 2010s progressives

>>16549007

>ARPG auto-brawler

I had no idea what this was but I regret looking it up.

>>16548490

Oh yeah, I totally forgot that AoD is in 3D. I've played it, it's great. Probably the best RPG. PS:T has some good dialogue, but it has nothing on the amount of options you have in AoD.

>>16549440

Why is everything I am seeing in the past few days so soul-crushingly awful? Who was associated with this project and gave everyone the go-ahead to show this to the public?

>>16549440

Why even slap the might & magic title onto that? I get that brand recognition is a thing, but the overlap in audiences must be miniscule.

>>16549440

And this is what the gameplay looks like. Imagine a really sterile looking version of SMT that probably makes even the SJ remake look like Ninja Gaiden in terms of difficulty.

>>16548842

>>16548850

What's supposed to be great about Divinity 2? I just tried it and it feels like an absolute torture to play. No roleplay whatsoever, combat is worse than Gothic, everything is brown, animations are terrible. Music and voicing seem to be the only things that are not terrible.

>>16546089

Isn't this thing going to be a Stadia exclusive?

>>16552117

Read the fucking thread.

Shit, just read the first 20 posts in the thread.

>that Swen interview

>blowing millions on emojis

>hundreds of employees working on a single product for multiple years

>AAA money

guarantee it that it's gonna be a 3rd person ARPG or in the vein of Dragon Age in terms of how it plays

>>16557414

The only thing I liked about that video was how the guys from WotC were pretty much what you'd expect: a pair of fat fucks.

>>16558636

Yeah, but unfortunately Sawyer says he's done with RPGs now. Managment fucked him over while working on PoE2.

It's a shame, the concept sounded incredible. Like a MotB but with even better writing.

>>16547927

The gameplay didn't get stale, that's like saying racing games, RTS or FPS are all stale because they are a genre of game that has been done before.

>>16565143

The DaS combat mechanics is simply an action game where timing and endurance are implemented that's it.

It would be like a game with car's and gas requirements was considered ripping off or being the same genre of other games that had same features.

>>16546796

>so he left a series of demigod children

so he went around raping everything that moved*

>>16547472

>you can easily avoid their garbage

You literally get abducted into watching a poorly voice acted LOLSORANDUM cutscene when you walk around Beregost. All of their characters stick out, and in the worst possible way. Fuck you for reminding me. Also, BGTuTU and BGT already did what the EE did, but with less bugs. And they looked better, too.

>>16547730

"I used to like it, but then it got popular and now I hate it".

>>16565728

>so he went around raping everything that moved*

Maybe, but he's a god and you can't rape the willing.

>>16546796

it is also worthwhile pointing out the story of Jon Irenicus in BG II. a story about how this dude was power hungry and tried to steal the power of a god. the elves punished him for it and stripped him of everything that made him elven. then the fucking faggot elves somehow expected him to seek redemption rather than revenge. while they only left revenge inside of him. a case where the punishment was way worse than the crime. Joneleth did nothing wrong

>>16568944

Bodhi did everything wrong though.

>>16568944

Irenicus had to die. Not necessarily because some cock smoking elfs were mad at him. But because he kidnapped my sister imoen and tortured me in an attempt to steal my bhaal essence. All the damn bhaalspawn all across the world he could choose from, but he had to duck with me. Sorry, but it's personal.

>>16570230

There's a mod that makes her a recruitable npc. Her stats are stupid strong.

>>16565143

>french maid tamed illithid

My mind says that's stupid and no way this should work.

BUT MY BODY SAYS COME TO PAPA

>>16546227

The ending was kinda weird/unfavorable for DDOS2 but the character quests were all great. The most poz vibe I got from that game was "just accept undead as normal people guys its totally fine" but I can't tell you if they meant that seriously or tongue-in-cheek.

>>16573740

Oh yeah, there was also a "secret" bar in the end game where you could smoke weed out of a giant bong to get massive buffs, but again, that could be completely clowning and they might shelve that sort of humor for BG3 (at least, if they take as seriously as they say they are) They did say it would be "traditional" and used that word, which gives me some hope.

>>16573452

it works because with jon kidnapping the pc and his loli waifu imoen was never personal either. he just sought for a way to remove his and bodhi's curse, and those two just were unlucky enough to get in his path.

>>16570230

lackluster villian sidekick tbh

>>16546609

>I'll make an statement

>I don't need to elaborate nor provide proofs, just listen and believe

>>>/4chan/

>>16578317

>Responding to weak shitposts from days ago

why

>>16548961

>while yours probably have more effort and thought spent on them on average.

hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA