/v/ - Video Games

>>16538627

Then buy me a new lcd, also lcds are proven to be worse for you

people throw away great components. especialyl businesses.

i built an entire machine around found parts. 3rd gen i7 with compatible dell proprietary motherboard, 32gb ram, etc

i've now added a total of $250 to it for a brand new vidya card and and SSD but could have easily settled for shittier parts and had a working machine.

I got pretty pissed off when I bought a Patriot SSD (I believe the product line is called "Blaze" or something) and it just fucking died after 6 months. They did send me a replacement and it has worked since, though. Be careful with Patriot drives.

>>16538672

Where do you go to get stuff like this?

I got the double clicking on my deathadder and decided to order some chinese microswitches instead of another new mouse for like 50€ that lasts maybe 1-2 years. Opened the mouse, soldered them in and it works like the day I bought it with no problems. And the parts were only like 4$ for a pack of 5 switches so I can replace them one more time.

Also, my old asus monitor from 2011 died on me last year. I bought a new one but I got interested after fixing the mouse and fixing a monitor looks just as easy. You just need to remove old capacitors and solder new ones in.

>>16538672

>>16538681

I'm a big fan of using business class machines that offices are getting rid of. There's a guy one ebay that sells dells with a third gen i5 and a 1tb hdd, 8gb of ram for much cheaper than you can build those. I got one for my mom and it's been working great for her. It would definitely give someone a great foundation to upgrade to a more competent machine, replace the PSU and give it a GPU and bam suddenly a solid mid end PC for far cheaper than it would be to build one from nothing.

>>16538676

How are kingston SSDs? The cheapest, decent one I'm seeing is theirs.

>>16538687

No idea, haven't used them. I do have a Western Digital NVMe drive and external platter, they've worked great. I've had the platrer since… high school? So something like 9 years? The only thing that failed was their shitty little interface board that accepts USB, so I just opened the case and surprise surprise it's a factory standard HDD that I can plug into my internal bay. Been using it that way since. I got a new external drive as well for conveniently taking data with me.

>>16538687

>kingston are reliable. i'd say the top brands (keeping price in mind) are samsung, kingston, crucial, WD, corsair, etc. but tbh theyre all pretty reliable.

unless youre going for a top brand/model like samsung/wd/crucial it doesnt really matter. the only differences between the rest of the companies is their ease of warranty.

even a shitty "adata" one is probably going to be about as good as any of the other offbrands.

>>16538707

>just know theyre not standard motherboards or cases. i bought a new case for it.

I know that, mounting a new PSU in my own I had to rip out this guiding rail thing. They're very Dell but otherwise they're competently designed machines and a solid foundation to work with.

>>16538717

Thanks, I just want something simple, a 250gb or so will do the trick for the OS. HDDs are so slow.

>>16538623

I have fans dying left and right for some reason and getting way too loud before they bite it, also one of my HDDs is getting slower and slower to spin up so I am worried it might be on borrowed time.

Otherwise not having much trouble hardware wise honestly

>>16538687

Kingston are alright, had one as boot for my NAS until a malfunctioning power substation killed it.

Looking for a new NAS case right now and dear god this is driving me mad, not really vidya related hardware though

>>16538721

my motherboard issue was more because of the placement of ports and using parts that werent intended for the build. my video card completely covered the sata ports.

i use a 500GB really nice crucial MX500. cost me $50 on sale.

i plan on eventually getting a WDgold 4TB as a data drive to pair with my system drive.

>>16538747

>I have fans dying left and right for some reason

i stick to 4pin molex. for some reason i havnt had as many issues using that as i have with fans that connect to the mobo and are monitored by the bios.

i've also had issues with all my variable speed fans. ones that spin at a constant rate seem to stay alive longer for me.

>gookshit

>why is so shit

KEK

>>16538762

That could be the case but as I don't have the space to store most of my IT stuff away from where I hang around so I use PWM controlled fans in all of them

ITT retards wonder why their lowest possible tier hardware isn't reliable

>>16538791

What's some truly reliable hardware schlomo, besides CRTs which appear to be made of mithril

>>16538686

My steel series mouse developed severe bounce a couple of years ago. I just whacked the switch really hard a few times in a fit of rage and its been fine ever since.

>>16538805

Yeah, almost all the gaming mouses use the same exact switches from china. I did smash the mouse switch too but it wasn't reliable for me. Sometimes it would be fine for a few days and sometimes it didn't help at all. In the end it got so bad that I wasn't able to turn the camera in games anymore by holding down right mouse or highlight text I wanted to copy because it would instantly double click and thus undo the holding.

>>16538839

Yeah, those would be perfect. I'll have to order a few.

>>16538816

It helps in games where you have semi auto pistol or something.

Empty your clip in two clicks. Whether you want to or not.

>>16538839

Never mind all the led faggotry, I am truly impressed by how neat and clean that table is.

My own is so cluttered at all times, 3/4 of it are unusable.

>>16538940

do what he did: buy plastic drawers from walmart and shove all your shit in it and take pictures.

>chinese mice/keyboard

I geniuenly do not understand how someone fucks up a mouse or keyboard. From ergonomics, to size, to insane ghosting issues(pressing A pretty much disables 10 keys), to stupid shit like slightly tapping left shift causes forward slashes to be spammed, to shit tracking issues, terrible springs/buttons that wear out after a month of use, fucking hell. I bought one set out of necessity and I never want to do it again.

>>16539001

It's funny how I've been able to complete avoid broken chink shit when it comes to computers by just getting the cheapest shit I see at WalMart. All the faux high end overpriced crap seems to be where the busted stuff is.

>>16539059

I bet you own a juicero as well.

>>16539001

Because the chinks have 0 quality control on every single thing they make, their one purpose in life is to pump out as much garbage as they can so they can buy a bowl of rice

>>16539058

Heh, my experience is the same. These days the cheapest no-brand tier chink shit available in convenience and department stores often last longer and are more reliable, and occasionally you'll even come across some that are built like fucking soviet trucks. This is particularly true for keyboards and mice. The problem is that they often lack in features and ergonomics, especially for mice - I don't even mind using 3 button mice, but I'd like to see some of these low-end models with higher dpi sensors and a button to change dpi on the fly - just 2 or 3 different dpi configurations would be enough.

It wasn't always like this - until around 10 years ago, the expensive high-end stuff had better build quality and was a lot more durable than the cheap stuff. It was this decade that things changed.

>>16539096

> These days the cheapest no-brand tier chink shit available in convenience and department stores often last longer and are more reliable, and occasionally you'll even come across some that are built like fucking soviet trucks

Meaning they're shit and fall apart every 2 seconds? All of that "high quality" shit you're buying is made in chinkland fyi which is why it's garbage

>>16539135

What the fuck is the point? Do people really buy this?

>>16539144

>>16539100

I'm under the impression you misunderstood my post. Just calm the fuck down.

>Meaning they're shit and fall apart every 2 seconds?

No. I meant that they can be very crude and lacking in features and technology, but they are durable and reliable. Maybe not the best example, but I went for the soviet built meme. But of course you know that's what I meant.

What you're saying is true for the higher end and "gamer" stuff, though.

Looks like chink manufacturers have been using their worst quality and most cheaply built components for the high end and "gamer" products nowadays, probably because they realized that gamers are the most cucked and submissive consumers on any market other than maybe Apple drones, and if their gamer shit breaks down the day after the 6 month warranty expires, they'll just suck it up and buy another without complaining.

Some time ago I bought a kit that was supposed to allow you to play any fighting games from the PlayStation totally for real by doing the moves totally for real on your living room, but those were just buttons that you strapped on your knees and elbows. I was a bit pissed.

>>16539135

>>16539144

>>16539152

>Alphabet

Why does Google have a stake in it? Seems like a surveillance tool.

>>16539096

All of the "EPIC L337 G4YM3R RGB PRO" stuff is overpriced garbage sold to kids using mom's credit card. If you want a decent keyboard you have to either make one yourself or pay out the ass to some craftsman to make you one.

>>16539144

People don't but investors might, remember that everyone is silicon valley is trying to wrap a turd in gold foil and sell it to a VC firm for five billion dollars.

>>16539135

>>16539086

Good ol' juicero

>thought the SSD was dead and was scratching my head why it died

>actually the contacts was gunked up and all I had to was scratch the contacts

Zowie mouse cables are easily frayed due to some nigger tier design.

The logitech pro g keyboard is so shit, you have a really huge ping sound that sounds like a fucking ghost howling under your keyboard but the switches are just mx brown clones (shit, gateron and kalih are a better meme) what a big fucking meme.

Logitech'sG560 speakers are total shit for the price they actually sell for so get it relatively cheap if you can which you won't, but even then what kind of retarded shit is using dvi connectors for speaker sound, like i know that you can technically use any fucking connector on the other end for simple things like audio because who gives a shit, you can use hdmi to send whatever you want its not cucked to only do video and audio but what the fuck all this for some stupid fucking rgb spectrum analyzer shit + rgb based on your display, fucking rgb is a mistake, i only wanted fucking red leds blasting my room. Also there's like little to no fucking bass and no eq controls all gay software shit, what happened to fucking screwing around with knobs and volume buttons are shit, volume knobs were way more superior but these niggers want to treat you like cattle and remove actual thinking by making you thinik in a linear fashion instead of a circular fashion, fucking nigger faggotry in my speakers.

Speaking of hardware, I'm waiting for that mnt reform laptop to ever come out since every laptop aside from gaming laptops have the worst fucking keyboards and I don't want cia niggers in my hardware if I'm traveling around

>>16539096

shitty mice break fast. I used to buy shitty either Genius Xscroll or Logitech M100 (shitty mice for ~$10). They would last 6-12 months until they get problems (duplicate clicks). I bit the bullet and went for a decent mouse and it lasted me 3 years (infrared LED died). If I wanted I could find new LED and fix it, but I fucked the skates opening it so I don't know if it's worth it.

>>16539158

>Looks like chink manufacturers have been using their worst quality and most cheaply built components for the high end and "gamer" products nowadays

I would say it's more like there's lots of snake oil floating around. There's a massive lack of information everywhere. Combine that with a retarded consumer base that falls for marketing woo and you'll see why things are the way they are.

To illustrate my point, I regularly come across stuff that's WORSE at HIGHER PRICES than better stuff (e.g. Linksys E900 router selling for more than TP-Link Archer C6)

>>16539175

Don't worry, Jewcero is dead. It bombed horribly like like the garbage it was.

i remembered that I bought a blue yeti about 5 years ago. It's been sitting boxed up in the closet, well I dug it out. I think I used it for about a day before putting it away and today I plugged it in and discovered that the power port is fucked up like you look at it wrong and it disconnects, fucking gay but that's what I get.

>>16539206

>Logitech M100

My family at home and at our business we use M100s exclusively, they last 2 to 3 years on average even when taking lots of normalfag minimum wage employee abuse. 2 years ago I've bought a G502 to use on my laptop and it started with duplicate clicks in less than 6 months, fixed it myself by disassembling it and adjusting the microswitch spring, lasted another 6 months and then the sensor died. Replaced it with a M100 and more than 1 year later it's still working like new.

On my gaming desktop I use a 10+ year-old MX518 that still works like new. I'm considering buying one of those new re-released MX518s to keep as a spare, but I have my doubts that the component quality is the same.

>I regularly come across stuff that's WORSE at HIGHER PRICES than better stuff (e.g. Linksys E900 router selling for more than TP-Link Archer C6)

Yes, Linksys and even Cisco products are shit nowadays. For networking products you either stick with D-Link and TP-Link, or go to corporate oriented products from Dell, HP and IBM if you need higher quality stuff.

>>16538623

My GTX 970 recently fried, scared the shit out of me because I've never had a component go bad while my computer was on.

Wasn't even playing anything graphically demanding just playing Magic Arena.

Pissed me off that card was able to run all my games in Ultra despite being an older card.

RIP in pieces.

>>16539326

Your Router?

Would be nice if someone could make some sort of small guide for cheap but decent hardware specifically for vidya in general, and not some generalist stuff like logical increments

>>16538747

>I have fans dying left and right for some reason and getting way too loud before they bite it

Could be one of several things, some fan types are known to hate being used when flat, and they will basically start making a lot of noise and die after some time, I think it was sleeve bearings that caused the issue.

Could be dust getting inside the fan itself

Could be inconsistent power delivery in which case you should get a fan hub and plug them in it instead.

Could be you're running those fans at an RPM range they don't like because unless specified otherwise the fans are usually meant to run at their rated RPM

Could be PWM signal is bad and forcing it to change speed too often in a weird way

>>16538623

You have 0 reason to buy anything but a Crucial SSD, they're usually among the cheapest, they're also among the fastest and most reliable.

Never get laptop HDDs unless you have a heatsink for them. Learned that one the hard way.

Also most included sata cables are shit, cut one open and not even all the of wires are insulated, that's right bare fucking wire.

>>16539506

>Never get laptop HDDs unless you have a heatsink for them

explain. you mean a caddy tray right?

>>16539549

Yeah, or something equivalent. I plugged a laptop drive into my desktop and it worked well for a few months, but then on a hot day shit got FUCKED. It still turns on but I'd rather not touch it until I can get a speedy backup.

>>16538623

>This 16 year old CRT has outlasted a 5 year old LCD and it looks far better than the LCD ever did

Of course. The entire push to LCD was always about profit margin and screen size in relation to weight. We're just now finally getting screen tech that can compete with CRT colors and black levels, and that comes with wallet rape, screen burn-in, blue subpixels that rapidly age, and a gaurantee to fail within 6 years.

>>16539933

>5 years ago my parents bought me some $200 skullcandy headphones

Could be worse, could have been beats

>>16539956

My workplace had some contest (basically a lottery, you're only disqualified if you use time to leave early). I won, and my prize was "Beats by Dre". They were free, but they're not as good as these no brand wired headphones I use for my desktop. However, they're wireless… so they're okay for when I'm doing yardwork. They're not worth the price they're at ($200).

>>16539964

ANC is slightly better than most regular closed backs at isolation, but way worse than good closed backs and IEMs

Neither the QC35 or WH-1000XM are that great sounding and they're only really good to mute transportation noise (car, train, plane, background crowd noises)

imo you're better off getting good chinkfi IEMs or a good sounding pair of closed bluetooth headphones without any ANC (like the M&O MOOH-BE00BT), if the noise is really that bad and IEMs aren't your thing there's drummer headphones, they don't all sound good but the isolation will be hard to beat.

>>16539973

Depends on what gen beats, the early one are horrible niggerbasscannons that barely qualify as usable headphones, new ones are just fashion accessory that sound about the same as 50 bucks chinkifi headphones so it's perfectly usable.

>>16539964

Noise canceling works by using a cia nigger-tier microphone to capture the noise around you and cuts off noise that constant and annoying, for example a airplane hum, but for something like a frog croaking and cricket chirping its inbetween an airplane hum where it's consistent and a nigger tyrone crying for his nigger milk where the screaming nigger can yell in his dialect in many ways, but the bose headphones (i'm assuming it's the quietcomfort ones) are very good for the job it offers but a bit pricy and if the noise canceling doesn't kill off the noise it should passively reduce noise anyways if it fits right onto your ears. A nice alternative is Plantronics Backbeat PRO but it's just a similar price but does the job as well too, you could go for the IEM meme as this anon has mentioned: >>16540009

>got external Western Digital HDD back around 2006-2007

>finally time to move all my data off my old HDD's I've been hanging onto, including a Maxtor from 1999

>one by one I hook them up, boot, transfer data to new external

>shittons of music from napster before I got banned, lots of custom Brood War Use Map Settings maps from the height of Brood War's battle.net days, various webcomics and custom things for games from websites that were dead by 2005, chatlogs from the glory days of some Direct Connect ++ hubs I used to frequent(died once torrents became a thing), email addresses for all my old friends, and a fuckton of various images and memes from the early days of 4chan

>throw old HDDs away finally, except Maxtor, wipe that one and keep it for shits and giggles

>three months later, just after the warranty expires, HDD starts making horrible clicking noise, then stops working

>lose fucking everything

>end up hooking old 1999 Maxtor back up as a secondary drive

>it lasts another four years

I still haven't found a lot of that shit again. I don't remember all the songs, can't find all the maps as I remember them, can't find shit about old webcomics I barely remember, much less all the skins for Duke3D and other old games, and I've only seen a fraction of the pictures I used to have. I try to backup religiously, but it's not cheap backing up terabytes of data.

>>16540103

>but it's not cheap backing up terabytes of data.

Look for refurb HGST He10, 250 bucks for 10TB is hard to beat

>>16540009

Never had a pair of IEMs actually stay in my ears, even those ones you kinda just jam in there, they just fall out. I'll look into that other one, maybe an AKG, I hear decent things.

>>16540240

Buy foam tips, they're relatively cheap but they kind of fall apart after a month.

>>16539853

Oh yeah, update on the CRT. High Resolution is irrelevant, having a display that works at any resolution is the greatest.

>>16540103

>but it's not cheap backing up terabytes of data

You can get some good deals for refurbished drives like >>16540108 said and build a system with enough redundancy.

For mitigating more serious stuff you can go for something like Backblaze, they have good prices.

My place of work just got a contract with HP for all new computers. The keyboards that came with them are the most garbage fucking keyboards I've ever typed on. Constantly missing keystrokes. God I hate membrane keyboards

>>16540008

Having nice things is a waste of time because eventually those things stop being nice. Having shitty things that just werk is where it's at because it'll keep on being shitty but just werking forever.

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>>16541430

Strange, I have a chicony kb0108 membrane keyboard that came with the first computer I bought and I still use it to this day. It's like 15 years old now, probably even older. Never missing any keystrokes or buttons not working.

>>16539135

why does it require the bags to be scanned? thats a inconvenience, what a pile of trash

>>16552705

reality: Juicero was your typical investor scam start-up.