/v/ - Video Games

Oh no is this the granblue guy? I hate his stuff, it's so messy and lacking in dynamism just like every other mobage artist

>>16520942

I also have significant concerns about

>suggesting that the new system may be realtime and action-based.

When the combat is so item usage heavy, it'll probably turn out to be an even more boring version of kingdom hearts combat.

Post thighs

>>16520953

The mention of tactics shit makes me think it might be semi-automated

There are multiple threads up. Use the catalogue.

>>16520953

You've never played KH.

>>16521093

>thick thighs and thigh gap

>bullshit

>sexist

I cannot express my contempt of these faggots enough.

>>16521093

I always laugh that motherfucking art offends them.

>>16521192

>not benis in bagina

Cuck-tier fetish.

>>16521189

Is this fucking mark?

>>16521212

To be fair, Piss Christ has a nice rich color to it

Her thighs look so fucking soft

HHHHHHNNNNGGGG

>>16524034

>the ass looks disgustingly huge

>>>/cuteboys/

>>16521013

The veracity of his statement about Kingdom Hearts depends entirely on which Kingdom Hearts he's referring to. 1 was slow but forgivable because they were trying new things. 3 and BBS were really stiff. CoM was too experimental and kind of what I'd expect from a real time action game that requires the amount of menuing implied in item based combat.

But the sacred standapart is 2. KH2 can hold its own against golden standards like Devil May Cry 3.

>>16524050

So according to you you have to be a faggot to like a girl like Totori?

>>16524077

This franchise is 100% dependant on otakubux and gust is too small to tell the original audience to fuck off in favor or chasing western faggot money. I don't think they look for opinions beyond what people are saying in Famitsu, the devs and artists probably don't know what retardera is.

So far only Sony is big enough to tell otaku to fuck off and get away with it. They'll suffer for it during the next inevitable recession when normalfags need food and weed more than open world walking simulation #853420.

>>16521093

>Fagglts cannot even imagine yuri shit with thick thighs

You would think they would be haply that their yuri porn would be lewder, but fags will be fags.

>>16524113

>Not liking all natural forms of the female body

Fag

If there's no degenerate yuri themes this might be the Atelier game I actually finish

>>16524217

>No degenerate yuri themes

Already confirmed

>>16524008

They got one or two studios working concurrently and when one game is released then the next game is half finished. I can only imagine that Gust lives on peanuts.

>>16520942

What's the point if there will be no time limit?

What's the point of reworking how gathering works if you have unlimited time to gather a unlimited amount of materials? All choice and strategy becomes grind instead

>>16525580

>everyone that doesn't like my fetish is the same person!

This is your brain on degeneracy

>>16524223

>already confirmed

That sucks, another game to the shit pile

>>16525725

There's still plenty of strategy. Failure means trying again. There's fundamentally no difference between simply going back out to gather more resources, or loading a save and THEN going back out to gather more. If you have to grind it's because you suck, and the grinding itself won't help you in any way, you simply keep trying again until you learn how to do it right.

>>16526168

>he doesn’t like Minaba

Shit taste detected. GBF’s great art and soundtrack are a few of the best things about that gacha game.

>>16524223

Thank God. I was sick of getting cuckolded by degeneracy.

>>16524223

Confirmed for having yuri or confirmed for not having yuri?

>>16526168

>dropping a game that has good art because you dont like how the artist worked on a game you dont like

Hilarious.

>>16526276

> good art

Good joke

>>16526278

Amazing argument

>>16526278

Nice contrarianism

>>16526168

I hate gachafaggotry as much as any other sane person, but dropping a game because the artist worked on a gacha seems retarded. Not liking a particular artists' style is fine though.

>>16526288

>>16526293

> try to ape Yoshida's style but fail

> overdesign everything to the point of visual vomit

> slap on enough belts to make Nomura blush

< He's a good artist, really!

eppin

>>16526214

I said infinite resources you nigger, you can't get that with a time limit, but you can when there's none

>>16521093

There needs to be a proper word coined for when you are happy that someone hates what you love, because it means they will stay away.

It's not the Granblue artist you fucking morons.

>>16526168

Isn't the granblue fantasy guy also Final Fantasy tactics?

so wait, im confused. is this a continuation of the mysterious trilogy? is this supposed to be the next trilogy? i thought they were revisiting the arland trilogy for the next atlier game, was that just a 1-game deal and this is the next trilogy?

>>16526557

That's exactly what I don't like about it honestly. The characters and designs are perfectly competent, but the washed out and at times almost monochrome colors makes it feel less "real". The world is like a fantasy of a fantasy, making it far too distant and less immersive.

>>16530661

It's definitely a one off, subtitle in nip is Alchemist of Arland 4.

This Atelier Ryza might be the start of a new trilogy or Gust might just be moving on from their trilogy pattern

>>16530714

The subtitle on Ryza appears to be ”The Queen of Everlasting Darkness and the Secret Hideaway” Sounds like it might have a little more plot than normal.

>>16530728

I redacted my shit wrong, Lulua is of course Arland 4 and Ryza's subtitle does seem to suggest a standalone Atelier.

>>16530744

Wasn't disagreeing, although I doubt Ryza will be standalone, it seems unlikely they would build up a new world and characters to only use them once. Maybe if they only have a limited contract with the artist, but it's still wasteful. It's possible they just aren't putting the series name in the subtitle this time. It's also possible that the name will be something super cheesy like the "everlasting darkness" series.

>>16536907

Also, which game is that pic from

>>16536963

The picture is Atelier Firis. The character is Firis's mom.

>>16527308

No. See >>16526309 He's a cheap off brand Chinese knockoff Yoshida

New translations

https://www.frontlinejp.net/2019/06/06/atelier-ryza-producer-interview-new-information-june-2019/

>>16526168

retard

>>16526276

It's not the same artist.

>>16521189

Any answer for this yet?

>>16548350

Doesn't matter in this case, but add :orig at the end of a twitter image URL to get the full image. Otherwise it'd cap it at a resolution of 1200p (:medium or default url) or 2048p (:large or expanding the image) if you expanded it.

>>16546498

I mean the newest game runs without issues on my end. Except for slowdown during the intro for some reason.

>>16552988

>the rest of the mysterious trilogy is godawful

Sophie is the worst game in the Mysterious series by far. Firis and L&S both greatly built and expanded on the alchemy and exploration of Sophie, and Sophie has nowhere near good enough characters and story to stand on that alone. They all have flaws, but if there's one you could skip it's Sophie.

As for the time limits and "grinding", it's bullshit. The time limit only serves to make the gameplay more annoying, and they can be grindy or not with or without it. I just spent most of tonight grinding out the requirements for the money and Mimi endings in Totori (must acquire 500k cole and reach level 50 with Mimi, you must unlock all other endings in order to get the true ending so this is NOT optional) I've still only got 400k cole after spending a solid 3 hours opening waters.

>>16553014

I disagree L&S was the only game in the series I couldn't force myself to play through. Something about it was just awful.

>>16553053

Most people didn't like the main characters, that's kind of a show stopper in this sort of game. The alchemy system was as good as it could get, with incrementally improved mechanics and without the fundamental flaw in recipe discovery that Firis had, and while the maps weren't nearly as open as Firis, they were still a LOT more involved than Sophie. The story (disregarding the characters themselves) was also better than Firis, though I can't say if it was better or worse than Sophie.

I wish they attached a decent game to these designs, though. I don't want to play dollhouse with moeshit, then fap myself into a stupor. Gamers and weeb goals don't align.

>>16526301

Less the artists worked on gaccha and more the guy's art style is pretty damn meh. I don't personally care—it can go one way or the other—I'm more in the camp with the "no time limit means this is just another generic slog/grind" game. That mechanic was there for a reason.

>>16553131

There are elements of a decent game in there. If you really get into the crafting system it can be fun figuring out how to combine the strongest traits into the best items and then using those to beat otherwise-impossible bonus bosses. There's a pretty decent amount of depth to the crafting in some of the games (some more than others). Usually there are only a few enemies that really require you to do this and not much reason to actually fight them, but it is a thing you can do.

>>16553136

No time limit doesn't make it any more of a grind, it just means less savescumming whenever you make a less than perfect item or take the long way around the map. You still have to master the crafting system to finish any of the intended harder challenges since level grinding will only carry you so far (not very) and money is pretty much worthless.

>>16553071

No the characters were fine. If I had to say anything I felt like it was a more of a grind. Like postgame is postgame, the grind is fine there, but when I have to make 90 rubies to make something not complete trash in the base story that's where my issue arose.

>>16553172

I guess looping for higher quality items could be annoying. It wasn't particularly important most of the time (quality affects very little in the Mysterious series) and for the most part you just make some 999 distilled waters and work that into everything else. I didn't really see that as a grind so much as a step in the more-involved crafting system.

>>16553198

No it wasn't that, it was more of the trait system just being worse. Quality wasn't even an issue after sophie where it was a flat.. I want to say sophie it was a .5% per QL mod or something silly for equipment. Like I said I can't really phrase why, but it's the only atelier game I haven't finished because I just couldn't force myself through it.

>>16553214

Other than quality (which is pretty much optional and only for OCD people like myself) I don't remember ever having to repeat craft very many times. The trait system in L&S was pretty much the same as it was in Sophie and Firis as far as I can remember. It's been over a year though and having played more Atelier since then it all kind of blurs together.

So far the worst crafting out of the Atelier games I've played is Totori. Maybe original Rorona is worse still (only played plus), but in Totori there are no combination traits and many of the traits are negative or do the exact same thing so you are extremely limited on what you can make and the overall complexity of the system. There aren't even any cost level+ traits like Rorona Plus had, so you can't even juggle cost level increases across items, you just get what you get (though to be fair it's easy to max out most higher-tier crafts).

>>16553458

I didn't mind in totori or any of the other games. L&S did something that just made the game feel like a massive fucking slog to even play.

>>16553147

The hell would you savescum for? Write the notes for the results & move on. The processes in the game are never so complicated that you can't pen out your craft chains beforehand, anyway.

The time mechanic keeps the playthroughs meaningful in a series that's almost entirely sidequest-oriented. Figure out and act on where you're gonna go, what you're gonna do, how you'll manage, and then take it easy in the second playthrough since you know enough by then to start running the system itself and also doing what you need to in order to see the other endings. Gives all the free-end mechanics—gathering, NPC flag raising, crafting, monster/bounty hunting, etc all the better.

>>16520942

>playing a game named "Atelier "

turbo gay

>>16552988

>Rorona Plus

>Sophie

how good/bad are the pc ports?

>>16556446

Rorona runs pretty ass on PC. It performs considerably better if you play it in Japanese though even then it still has some hitching. Crashes and bugs at least should be infrequent to non-existent, it's just slowdown/framerate issues.

I don't recall having any problem with Sophie in English but it's been a while.

>>16556525

I do of course mean full Japanese, text and voices. It actually runs a different executable.

>>16556532

thx. my understanding of moonrunes is nonexistant tho, prolly stick with sophie then (or wait for ryza)

>>16556573

Might be OK. It should be KT doing the port and localization for Ryza. I suspect the issues with Rorona (and Totori) on PC are related to NISA's localization more so than KT's port, considering the differences between the Japanese and English executable.

>>16536907

Yuri is too vanilla, faggot. I have to actually look for the smut.

>inb4 >fapping to yuri

You get retards for enjoying it at all and pointing out it's not shit or anti-male cuck propaganda.

You get retards claiming to be fans for finding it sexy enough to blow a load like any other attractive lewd couple in ecchi or hentai.

Deal with like any other shitposter.

>>16564829

but aren't KT ports usually hit or miss?

>>16579025

Aren't NISA ports always miss?