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>>16520476

>Granblue Fantasy Versus

That looked really fun! Are those 5 characters the only ones known so far?

So for someone who has not touched a fighting game(besides at most 30 minutes of 3rd strike/HftF arcade mode) and without the patience to sit and watch a video game being played for more than 10 minutes without wanting to play it myself(i.e it should have a decent tutorial mode instead of hours of fan made tutorial videos), what's a decent first fitan to dip my toes into?

>>16520510

>Both games require you to use player rooms or (((discord))) to find matches,

Seriously? Both games are at like 250~ players, you're telling me no one jumps into a matchmaking mode of their own volition?

>>16520510

Oh thanks, I meant to repost this once one of the threads took off a bit more. It's a shame that discord is practically mandatory since that's not happening with me.

GG appeals to me, but I'm not sure I can justify the time investment of the learning process any more. I wish I had an fg that I could just switch on for an hour and have some casual fun, but I'm not good enough to autopilot; each action requires attention. Thanks for the info though, and yeah, a chart like that would be nice for reference.

>>16520535

There's two more, but they won't be in the beta.

Lowain (and his bros) looks like he has a super mode in which the playable character becomes Yggdrasil.

Ladiva is an okama wrestler who is probably going to have command grabs.

Those are the announced ones, but others have been inferred from the weapons in the game's logo.

>>16520633

>time investment of learning process

Honestly, Xrd was my first ever fighting game, and I think it's a great place to start (barring one or two mechanics) due to the tutorial and the way the mechanics are structured. The whole point of all the conflicting system and character mechanics is to have something too complicated to be understood at once: when I practice something, I feel as though I'm conquering one small section of the game mechanics instead of becoming swamped in them. The skill ceiling is so far away that I'm kind of forced to take pride in small victories, which I think is a healthy way to look at it.

>>16520574

>decent fightan with good tutorial

GGXrd

UNIST

BBCF (although this one is more brief than the other two)

Them's Fightin' Herds, unironically.

>no one jumps into a matchmaking mode of their own volition?

You can usually find public player rooms during populated hours (evenings in NA, for instance), but if you wanted something more focused then you'll need to use the (((discord))).

>>16521210

So just show them this vid for fg basics

Don't let the cancer spread, stop the gachashit before it festers!

Redirect all GBFV discussion to

>>>/gachashit/

That's the place it deserves to be!

>>16521601

and remember, if you don't take action, you're as bad as a gachashit addict!

>>16521411

>youtube embed of a (((kore-a))) gaming video

>>>/4um/

There are way better video for showing fundamentals, and that channel is just as cancerous as every other "video essay" mill on YouTube.

>>16521601

>>16521603

This is the fighting game general. We discuss fighting games here.

I really like the UNIST tutorial so far. It has introduced concepts I haven't thought of much and for once I jumped into an arcade mode not spamming and actually figuring out some basic combos for myself.

How viable is playing with a keyboard? Both of my controllers have pretty finicky analogs that aren't really suited for this type of shit, one registers an input in the opposite direction if you release the stick and the other is just outright shit.

>>16522018

I've watched a few of his videos, they're kind of over-edited but why are they cancerous?

>>16522022

Some guy at my locals plays unist with a keyboard just fine, just find a good layout for yourself and you should be fine.

>>16522018

>This is the fighting game general. We discuss fighting games here.

So giving the spotlight to a cancerous IP that will attract only gachashit addicts is ok for you?

>>16522022

Keyboard is perfectly fine as long as it's not a ghosting piece of shit. Using analog sticks is holy-fuck-nigger-what-are-you-doing tier, though.

>>16522060

Isn't everyone using arcade sticks though?

It is a ghosting piece of shit but I imagine I won't be pressing more than three arrow keys at once, right?

Oh fuck I just realized what an arcade stick was like, ignore what I just said

>>16522022

>How viable is playing with a keyboard?

Hitboxes and keyboards are superior input devices to arcade sticks, even when they aren't allowing you to cheat. You'll be fine.

>>16522035

>way too much fucking editing

>twitter memes

>incorrect use of evidence (his team tournaments used a Godfather movie as evidence why people like tribalism)

>smash is a fighting game, even though it wasn't a fighting game

If you want to explain frame data to new players, use embed related. Obviously not everyone will have the patience to view the entire thing, but it's extremely thorough and doesn't gloss over anything for the sake of a cheap joke or visual editing trick. (((Kore-a))) Gaming is the definition of style over substance.

I'm digging the keyboards and I think this is much easier for me, especially for player 2 side special inputs. Thanks anons.

>>16522126

I'm really sorry for flaring up the eceleb discussion but I have to ask how someone who makes 50 minute videos with thumbnails like those is popular.

Why do so few people use controller analog sticks? As someone who only uses D-pads, I don't see how a controller stick would be all that different than an arcade stick.

>>16522143

Like most ecelebs, he himself isn't a problem but his followers who think his words are above all else are. His videos get shared by people who also have some influence and the net just builds it itself.

>>16522154

Lack of precision on said analog sticks. Unless your fingers are really on point. Most people just jump instead of doing a hadouken..

>>16522187

Okay, I guess I can see that. I've seen pads with sticks that have the same kind of setup, but I suppose those aren't often tournament legal.

That being said, though, what fighting games would you want a square gate for? That seems like it would actually hinder you in fighting games more than it would help.

>>16522143

>how someone who makes 50 minute videos with thumbnails like those is popular

I don't think Core-A has ever made a video longer than 15 minutes. Do you mean cutcc? He isn't very popular, but he has a few highly-viewed videos because he's a rarity among Tekken players in that he knows how to explain game systems. The game encourages an ape approach, so it attracts a certain type of player.

>>16522325

Square gates are particularly good for charge characters that like to hit diagonals, but they're also stock on most sticks so it's best to just learn to use them in a lot of people's opinions.

>>16522333

I mean Maximillain dood.

>>16523004

whoops forgot to remove my sage

>>16523004

Thanks anon, one more game I was thinking of buying but won't.

>>16523004

It's probably the same since its a PS4 to Switch port

Here's a code for one of you faggots that want to get in on the whale bullying: Q2RL-9DNL-2LB3

>>16523045

Why would you buy it on PS4 or Switch when the game is on PC?

So is there any more official word from Capcom about what they think the rules for HitBoxes should be after they banned Daigo's randomly? I also want to know what Bamco's position on this is, as I'm currently in the process of making a custom Mixbox and I play Soulcalibur and Tekken.

>>16522154

>>16522325

Arcade sticks are actuating four different microswitches, that have an audible and tactile click to them, which gives you feedback on their activation unlike a thumbstick. The overall larger size and the distance from the fulcrum on the arcade stick also means that you can more easily make subtle movements to the stick without overshooting your movements. This is where you see a difference in the west versus the east however, as in the east they tend to play in a manner where they are only moving the stick as far as it needs to go to input the command they want, but in the west we tend to just smash the stick as far as it will go every time. This is why square restrictor gates are more common in the east, as it gives them more space to work with in the corners, and if you are actually impacting the restrictor gate you've gone too far in their eyes. The west prefers Octagonal gates because then we get stopped in the corners when we've gone far enough, and can more easily feel the transition to another nearby direction rather than vaugely sliding across a flat surface to the middle point.

>>16523004

I thought it wasn't getting a PS4 port? I assumed the whole reason was because of censorship bullshit.

>>16523188

can't legally own PC games

With how much Atlus/Arcsys is supporting blazblue cross tag battle, will they even consider doing Persona 5 arena anytime soon? And how would that even look like?

>>16523571

Capcom hasn't made any other statements aside from that vague tweet. They basically said that there is no clear ruling on the use of Gafro Hitboxes but they won't accept the use of the controller because "it goes against the spirit of competition." They said that they'll consider revising the rules after they gather more info. The CPT is going to abide by the local tournaments rules for now.

Bamco hasn't stated anything on the situation.

I would like to know what the future rules are going to be regarding controllers as well. Especially since it might affect me too as a keyboard user. It's really going to depend on how much they want to emulate real sports (regulated, standardized equipment,etc). I do also hope that with revised rules that they will stop employing double standards and other inconsistencies.

It's been interesting watching the reactions to Hitboxes over the years. It makes me quite thankful that no one pays attention to keyboards.

Mixboxes seem pretty cool and I've considered them as an alternative control method in the past. The keyboard converter that I used for console games broke a month or so ago so I might consider getting a Mixbox instead of a replacement. I'm probably going to hold off until the next console gen or if a local tourney strikes my fancy.

>>16523939

>aside from that vague tweet

For some reason I even have trouble finding that tweet, got a link/archive/screencap anywhere?

>>16524284

Thanks.

>>16524284

So is it just Daigo's hitbox or all hitboxes that are banned?

>>16524419

Only the gafrobox, people have said it cant do anything you couldn't do on a pad but combofiend banned it anyway.

>>16524419

Just the specific kind Daigo used. It has additional buttons, a different layout, but more importantly, a different way of handling SOCD (Simultaneous Opposite Cardinal Directions). Vid related.

Like>>16524436 said this stuff is also possible on pads or keyboards if they use the same SOCD method.

>>16523728

>Are you guys going to try SamSho 7 when it comes out on PC?

Probably even though none of my mains are in the game. There isn't much on the horizon for fighting games I care about outside Million Arthur (only if square doesn't force Denuvo into it) and updates for AH3LMSS and FEXL. Everything else don't even have proper reveals yet.

>>16524344

>Who is behind Granblue Versus?

The same team behind DBFZ, right? I looked it up, and Wikipedia says it's Arc System Works.

>>16524509

Fucked that up, it's meant to be

x_axis = move_right - move_left

so pressing left and right would mean 1 - 1 which would equal 0, not minus -1, which would be 2, and we all know 2 is a jewish trick.

>>16524509

>Arcades were originally right-hand-stick and only switched to left-handed later to increase difficulty and guzzle more coins.

Are you sure about that? I'm sifting through some of the early history of arcade machines and aside from stuff controlled by wheels, dials, and levers, I'm seeing them either controlled entirely by buttons (which means we are kind of going full-circle here, go figure) with a left hand bias, or a joystick that is either left hand bias (Defender) or centered to be ambidextrous (Pac-Man).

>>16524577

This is one of the places I've seen it reported.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/03/video_ever_wondered_why_joysticks_are_always_on_the_left

And I do remember some older arcade games were "backwards" as a kid and didn't now why. It turns out they were all pre-Jamma standardisation.

>>16524592

One of the many places I've seen it reported, I meant to say.

And to add, I'm also right handed, and played a bit of piano as a kid, so from that practice I know I'm much better at "melody" (command input) with my right hand and "chords" (attacks) with my left.

polite sage for double post

>>16524447

Does this apply for every game or just Street Fighter's finicky input leniency system?

>>16524767

Games with input leniency in most games allow you to do some interesting stuff like Back, Forward, Down, Up resulting in a 360 but SOCD shenanigans are more dependent on the individual game.

Here's another example video. This is done with a controller. By holding a direction with the joystick and then spamming the opposite direction on the D-pad+an attack.

>>16524793

*In most games with input leniency allows

I should probably proof-read the first sentence of my posts.

>>16524794

You know what, It's time for bed.

>>16524436

>>16524419

>>16524284

For posterity sakes see embedded.

My opinion: banning hardware because it performs better than yours is stupid. Even with programmable macros, what makes it ethical is the decided game, input methods be damned. Combobreaker is being retarded AF if they want input ethics as well: they would need to provide their own hardware to make their tournament pristine.

>>16525044

WB Chris Bard

>>16525323

>banning hardware because it performs better than yours is stupid

Gotta sell those Soyny/M$ controllers somehow. I like that more people are starting to wake up to "controllers are superior device for video games" corporate lie. Even ghosting keyboards are not as bad for fighting games with some exceptions where you have to hold/push specific combination of buttons. Started to play on PC with such keyboard myself and didn't experience critical problems with most of the fighting games or other games except for MK which no one treated as a fighting game anyway, the problem was related to performing Sub-Zero slide. The real issue you can experience in fighting games when playing cheap keyboards is input delay though, mostly this problem happens in fast fighting games.

Mechanical keyboard with mouse is absolutely the best input devices for video games, you can set up it how ever you want which makes it much better, I usually go for Genesis 6-pad/Saturn setup in most games which was designed after arcade pad. The only way modern console controllers can compete is to set artificial limitations like: lack of proper support, what happens quite often and with mouse in those low quality console ports with third-person cameras where you can't setup your input; lack of support in console games itself, something what hitboxes usually aim to solve for fighting games; banning it on tournaments.

>>16524592

>Larry Bundy Jr.

Take his videos with a grain of salt, he openly admits to skewing information in his videos as an anti-plagiarizing tool. Hopefully it's just rather innocuous stuff like rounding up certain numerical statistics a tiny bit, but we really don't know exactly what it is that he changes so it's hard to trust him.

Anyone here played the granblu beta? What are your impressions?

So, for some reason, Shang Tsung is now Chameleon. Confirmed characters in the pass are

>Shang Tsung

>Sindel

>Nightwolf

>Spawn

>Ash

>Terminator the ice in the cake would be if he was the jobber from Dark Fate movie

>>16526871

>no trailer for Ash

Gay

>>16526871

>the ice in the cake

Please tell me you are being ironic.

>>16526871

>can turn into Smoke, Rain, Reptile and Ermac

>his fatality summons Kintaro

"Hey guys, look at all these characters you wish you were actually playing as."

Also that straight fireball animation looks fucking awful.

>>16526871

Lol that "Your Soul Is Mine" line delivery was weak. This game should be renamed to Mortal Nostalgia Bait 11. It's a good thing I don't give two flying shits about the old mortal kombat movies to care about Shang Tsung in this case.

>>16526976

I don't mind Spawn, but screwing over Rain when they had the opportunity to expand on the character is pretty much a big fuck you from NRS and Ed Boon himself. Hope they lose sales but they are banking that MK11 will be their cash cow for years to come, and the stupid general public will cave in because normies are retards that do not learn from their mistakes.

>>16527074

>Hey guize, let's add Rain, Smoke, Ermac, and Reptile but it's actually all of the left out ninjas packed into one!

>Look, we listened to your requests and added your favorite ninjas but it's actually Shang Tsung!

Tell me how this isn't fucking bait to get people interested back into MK11, retard. Unless Ed Boon colors me surprised with the release of Rain as a stand alone character, this is them trying to cover their asses.

>>16527029

>I hope they lose sales

I am actually hoping the opposite happens with MK11. For two good reasons. The cucks devs get worked closer to death by Boon they deserve all the bad shit that happens to them at NRS for making such a bland game and secondly Mortal Kombat 11 becomes a containment unit for normal fags. So fucking sick of of Noobs (pun intended) complaining fighting games are too hard so if MK becomes the fighting game equivalent of Madden we should in theory see less of these fags.

>>16527108

This is just telling the fans to shut up and eat the scraps. Same shit as Millena-ish moves on Kitana and the Jade thing in MKX.

For a game that tries so much to not offend people they really nail hard on offend fans.

>>16527115

The problem with that is other games trying to follow it. Just look at the halfassed attempts to story content for SFV and DOA, game as service of SFV or even all the fucked up Krypt and towers from MK11 itself trying to bank on stuff that worked on mobile and other games.

>>16527074

I think you missed the point of my post. The phrase you were looking for was "icing on the cake." Don't be ashamed though, mistakes like yours are a diamond dozen.

>>16527074

The phrase is "be the icing on the cake," not "put the ice in the cake" you retarded spic.

Granblue Fantasy Versus looks good… but still can't see it as a 1 vs 1 fighter..

>>16522081

>>16523604

>>16522110

Sticks are the OG default but pad is viable now with input buffering. I used to play on stick but use pad for fg casual meet-ups.

>>16522110

Nice vid https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=45Iqxq9svZQ

>>16520574

I would recommend Super SF2 Turbo first as it has the least mechanics and still played casually but lacks tutorial and graphics are old.

If you just starting, just press buttons and get a feel of the movement.

Unless you really want to go intro level with the low-execution Fantasy Strike

>>16527166

It's a doggy dog world anon. You can't spend every minute vetting every sentence.

>>16527165

Not the first one but the games I pointed out uses the same structure as MK9 that was so acclaimed by "journalists" and casuals even though it's a badly written story mode that you don't get to choose who you'll be playing and won't even play with every character from the base game DBFZ did the same shit and in Xrd you don't even play said mode making a 5 hour movie like it was a bonus content. Dare to say later Blazblue titles used as inspiration to make the story way more linear instead of the extended arcade with VN structure with paths for each character.

This is just an example of feature taken from a successful videogame. And with console market shrinking in Japan year after while China and West remain strong or even growing. Why do you think producers wouldn't want to mimic aspects from MK11 if it goes right financially and critically among the major consumer base in the long run?

>SoulCalibur VI

You need to really ignore they try to sell you items that were regular in previous games. I just wish we got an actual complete version of Virtua Fighter 5.

>>16527166

Thanks for the clarification. We shall learn from past mistakes

>>16527207

And thank you for pointing the same thing as the post above you 15 minutes later.

So how badly are they going to butcher Sindel? I shudder to think what she will look like now.

>>16527108

>Tell me how this isn't fucking bait to get people interested back into MK11

It's a weak bait and very obvious. If anything, the whole game feels like a "fuck you" to the people who prefer old games and characters, but this is probably not intentional and just pure incompetence from NRS and WB side because new characters are shitty too. This is the message I've got myself at least, especially when they turned Sheeva into sheboon, it's like by making this abomination they said "you want Sheeva to return? Well, enjoy this ugly nigger, you piece of shit, because fuck you and everything you like". I'd rather not see anyone else from older games in this garbage, I hate this game more than I did MKX.

>>16527703

She'll look like an 80 year old grand mother. This is a realistic game and mothers can't look attractive in the slightest otherwise who knows what will that suggest.

>newfags don't recognize an obvious and classic pasta

Doggydog, man

>>16527847

>grand mother

I don't think she will look anything like women. My best best is that she'll look like a disgusting transfaggot.

>>16528007

Isn't he the dumbass who wrote the comics?

>>16528082

There was a fuck up a long while ago where one ID would be assigned to every post in a thread.

>>16528098

Oh ok, yeah that makes more sense.

In Unist's chronicle mode, is every chapter just 10 minutes of finding different ways of saying the same exact thing or is there going to be a fight soon?

>>16527440

>and in Xrd you don't even play said mode making a 5 hour movie like it was a bonus content

Xrd has playable story too which is arcade mode. The game even has GG World mode which has ton of info about GG universe.

The reason jornos with some casuals are claiming that MK9 was the first game with story mode is because those retards never played fighting games to begin with, at best they heard of or played only SF4.

>>16528404

So Chronicles is basically a VN, except you don't even get dialog choices? Why is this in a fighting game?

>>16528515

Blazblue used to have actual choices in their Story/VN for every single character but fags complained they had too much content so they trimmed down to an almost staight line with some few alternative gag endings along the way. French Bread probably thought the same when making UNIST.

>>16528441

Arcade mode in Xrd actually feels "incomplete" and more of a prequel/preview of the story mode. Half the shit you won't understand so, not really that great. Wikipedia mode was a pleasant surprise since I never had played GG before that.

When will ninja fags learn Boon has always hated the ninjas and is embarrassed the blatant recolors have bigger fanbases than any new character.

Takeada and Erron Black are probably the only successful new characters

>>16528855

Yes but they completely fucked Kotal over

>>16528701

It was mostly that you changed your choices by using a distortion finish/astral finish in the story mode. Which was tedious as fuck. Glad they got rid of that.

>>16528767

Who came first, Scorpion or sub zero?

>>16528701

>Blazblue used to have actual choices in their Story/VN

It all started with GG which had different routes you could unlock by doing specific things, like using instant kill, reaching time up, finishing opponent with overdrive move, etc.

>more of a prequel/preview of the story mode

That's pretty much what it is, hence "to be continued" when you beat arcade, at least each character have their own story except it's linear of course, but could be worse like a single ending pic or just black screen.

The series has pretty good lore overall, but I think they decided to take different approach with Xrd because of the same BB faggots and esports/Capcom faggots, because God forbid that a fighting game has actually something else besides multiplayer with low quality connection. Still, I appreciate that they did GG World mode to compensate, this was an improvement over previous games because if you wanted to know more your best bet would be untranslated CD drama or guides/manuals.

>>16529378

>Is he the meta?

It's a beta with six characters. Calm down.

>>16529387

Yeah I know but the BBTAG beta came out and everyone figured out from the that alone that you'd be seeing a lot of Ruby/Gordeau teams given how powerful these 2 characters were. Though that one had a training mode available.

If you pre-ordered goy.

>>16529421

I'd like to think GBFVS is more polished than the ball of chicken wire and duct tape that BBTAG is, but that's a good point. If we follow that comparison, then I speculate Lancelot to be the Leo Whitefang/Ken of this game, in that legions of idiots pick him up and mash buttons and win. He's also a generic cool dude in armour but he's cool enough to have TWO SORDZ, so that makes him still generic but distinct enough to appeal to faggots too afraid to play girl characters.

I think Ferry will probably be the strongest of the current roster. She has long normals, multiple projectiles, and a super that allows her to trap her opponent in blockstun while applying a mixup. Give her a few more normals and she's a Guilty Gear character. If what you're saying about the

What I'm really not looking forward to is the incessant shitposting about character archetypes and "you know who plays this character :^)))))))" trash. The faggots and trannies in my local club literally can't discuss the game without someone interjecting:

>DID YOU KNOW FERRY IS ACTUALLY FOURTEEEEENNNNNN???????

>DID YOU KNOW SOMEON PEOPLE WANNA FUCK CHARLOTTAAAAAAAAA?????/

>oof ladiva finna look fleek :biceps: :sweat:???? grapple me mommy :eyes: y'all playin her durin pride :faggot_flag: month tho????

The jokes about anime characters being pedophile bait were old and unfunny when Lucky Star was airing a decade ago. Normalfags are the absolute dregs of the human race.

>>16529294

>>16525573

I guess the idiots who made that were just copy/pasting some other e-sport code of conduct, likely CS:GO.

>>16529480

>>DID YOU KNOW FERRY IS ACTUALLY FOURTEEEEENNNNNN???????

>>DID YOU KNOW SOMEON PEOPLE WANNA FUCK CHARLOTTAAAAAAAAA?????

>>oof ladiva finna look fleek :biceps: :sweat:???? grapple me mommy :eyes: y'all playin her durin pride :faggot_flag: month tho????

Anon what the fuck language is this? What are you talking about?

>>16529659

It's twitter and nigger speak.

>>16529733

cope

>>16530268

Tragic, in my opinion but makes sense.

>>16530363

When do they mention this? How long have I not been paying attention to SFV where this became cannon?

>>16530397

So whore outfits aren't enough but they have a booth-waifu on the menu screen to convince you to drop shekels for SFV. That game has no fucking shame. I'm glad I never bought it, but here the fuck I am 3 or some shit years later bitching about it like a jilted X.

>>16527633

>I could care less

>could

Then do care less you retard

>>16530268

>300+ people is "dead"

lol

>>16527865

>>16528007

>>16528043

http://archive.vn/gjwGP

The article itself is not nearly as bad as the headlines suggests, but the major flaw is that MK11 storyline is complete shit.

>>16530710

>less trannies

*fewer

Sorry to hear you can't find a playgroup for UNIST. Maybe you can take the initiative to start your own?

>>16531002

does gbv have 1frame throws or that terrible dbz shit?

>>16530982

>Arcana Heart 3

It hurts. I genuinely want to play more of it but nobody is online when I am.

>>16531023

When do you play? I wouldn't mind going some matches tomorrow on AC3LMSS. I suck at the game but it's still one of my favorite fighters.

>>16530982

>does xiv have shit netcode or something? i thought people really liked it

Poor optmized and released at the same price as console release 8 months after the PS4.

Netcode is "ok-ish" for what a delay based one can offer. But the community is really on PS4. PC are all on fightcade playing '98 and 2002 because CodeMystics fucked up the UMs at release.

>>16529825

I think the hues are the only ones still translating it. They are up the previous one I think.

>>16531041

It doesn't matter if you suck, I hardly touched it because the one person I played like a handful of matches with dropped it and I couldn't find anyone else. Anyway, around 3PM PST. Not guarantee I'll get to play it tomorrow but if I do, it'll be then.

>>16530268

It's healthy enough to where I can easily find a match in North America any time I want, but it's dead enough that I'm stuck fighting against the top 30 players in the world almost exclusively. I hold my own against them when they play non-bullshit characters but the ones that are desperately in need of a nerf just outright slaughter everyone. Bamco keeps buffing the entire cast, which is great for the weaker characters but ultimately solves nothing as suddenly the S tier characters become SS tier characters.

With some healthy nerfs and some major changes to Reversal Edge the game would be a lot better.

>>16530435

Congratulations on missing the entire point of the copypasta, newfag.

>>16531335

SamSho is low execution for the most part (you get most of your damage from single slashes and combos are usually two hits most). Spacing and footsies are far more important.

>>16530982

Is that the arcade where the chink slit another chink's throat because video games?

>>16531345

Yeah, it happened about 4 years ago after a KoF '97 match.

archive.is/tszi2

>>16530982

>does xiv have shit netcode or something? i thought people really liked it

XIV has better netcode than XIII, XIII can just run on a potato and XIIIfags won't abandon the game since they love it's shit mechanics and sprites.

>>16531761

The HD Meter turned the whole game into an extreme meter management/autismal long combofest that only made a small fraction of the roster viable since majority of the characters have gutted movepools to save on animations.

>>16531824

At least in Melty Blood you can pretty buttons to increase the amount of grey life you get back after a combo. In Marvel you have to look for resets. Here you just sit an watch for ages on end.

>>16531856

>Why SNK never made remake of 98 with all NESTS newcomers past it?

02UM

>>16527074

>Suddenly all the bulshit from the new SamSho

What bullshit aside from the season pass/retro costume thing? I'm out of the loop. Or are you just the Mizukifag?

>>16532073

02UM is 90% 98UM just with NESTS characters, if you want 98-like game with NESTS characters; 02UM fills that role.

>>16532987

Not saying I hate that kind of stuff from Shiki and Yashamaru. I'm used to samsho.

>>16533022

I think Epic just sends joke notes to japanese devs. But yeah, people memed SNK to get UE because of KOFXIV graphics, so you get 15s loading times and your regular 8frame meme. That's what you deserve to give money to Tencent.

>>16533075

Charlie Nash's super carrying Infiltration and many online warriors in early SFV. In Samsho7 case, Issens might be near unreactables in some cases.

>>16533075

>does having a delay between your inputs and the game actions make you play worse?

You're joking, right? Anything with 6+ frames of input delay feels like playing underwater. I'm so used to low-delay toaster-friendly games on my PC and laptop that the simple act of playing on a soystation 4 makes me feel as though I'm wearing weighted clothes.

As >>16533113 mentioned, Charlie Nash's forward dash in vanilla SFV was famously unreactable, because the first half of the animation is identical to his idle animation, and the next eight frames are "eaten" by the input lag. Consider embed related: some of these dashes are only visually recognizable in less than a quarter of a second. Every frame counts, especially when you're in the heat of the moment.

>>16533075

Are you retarded? Would you play an FPS game where your inputs are delayed 133ms? Now try doing just frame attacks and other such specific timing things in a fighting game. Painful.

>>16534663

>Ever had a computer boot-up so slow that you turn it on and then walk away to get a coffee?

I call that denuvo.

>>16534697

Why not buy more ram? 16gb is 70 and 8 is 40. It shouldn't be hard to save up that much.

>>16535208

Her face looks a bit odd, perhaps due to sunken eyes, but overall she looks good. I really need to practice BnBs and stuff in this game.

>>16535244

The only thing that really bugs me about her is her ground drill attack, the special effects look off compared to all the offer effects in the game

How do you stop yourself from playing fighting games when you're having a bad day? Earlier tonight I had such a bad headache that I had to take some painkillers and immediately afterwards I played Tekken ranked for like 4 hours straight even though I knew it was a fucking retarded idea. I've always been incredibly stubborn but ever since I decided to try to become a competitive player a few weeks ago it's gotten far worse, I'm so obsessed with this fucking game that I just can't stop playing even when it feels like torture.

>>16536577

>How do you stop yourself from playing fighting games when you're having a bad day?

By using basic self control

>>16536651

>>16536733

>>16536744

You make it sound so easy but for some reason I'm having a really hard time doing that. To be fair, I don't actually get very angry so I've never broken anything but it's definitely ruining my fun with the game. I guess I just need to force myself to take a break for a week or two. I have a bunch of unfinished singleplayer games so maybe I'll just focus on playing those.

>>16536782

>stop an activity that drains testosterone

I don't think that's gonna help with his anger issues

>>16536811

Masturbation induces neurosis. Removing masturbation removes neurosis.

>>16536815

explain how the brain can tell the difference between an orgasm caused by masturbation and one caused by sex.

>>16536822

The how is irrelevant, your brain can.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16095799

>>16536867

>research shows sex feels better than jacking it

wow, who would have thunk it

>>16538014

Make it popular by seeding interest.

>>16538014

Old game that Capcom has no real interest in reviving? I dunno.

>>16538014

because rio hamasaki gave us everything we really wanted out of the darkstalker series.

>>16538014

It's dead, Jim.

>>16538014

Because people don't want capcom to remember it exists so they won't destroy it chasing the esports meme

>>16538014

I like the game in theory, but the reality of sitting there repeatedly dying in arcade mode or training alone for hours with no end goal doesn't really keep me going. The characters were probably what initially caught my attention the most even though they're mostly a cast of old movie monsters.

>>16538496

Capcom released the darkstalkers compilation on ps3/360 a few years ago to see if there was any interest left in the series, it sold pretty poorly and that was the end of the series.

>>16538926

Yes I'm aware of the mediocre port which suffered because like the potential Alpha 3 port it got infected by Capcom's proto-esports design policies.

And just because of that selling like shit, doesn't mean it safe from revival. With the capcom redemption arc meme happening they'll start digging into whatever IP they can. If they let Itsuno make a new Rival Schools like he wants, then Drakstalkers is back on the chopping block.

>>16539056

You act like capcom wouldn't pump out a half assed game with 3D models and lazy animations again.

The only thing they couldn't do well is milk costumes, but they would replace that by gutting the roster to resell as DLC.

>>16539056

>extremely hard if not downright impossible to properly translate into 3D due to the large amount of special animations

Then why even bother with 3D in the first place? It's not like it's done them any favors in terms of visual quality. Don't tell me it's because it's cheaper to produce.

>>16539009

>Yes I'm aware of the mediocre port

The port itself is perfectly fine, arcade accurate, you can turn off all the annoying notifications, and it doesn't have the nonsense from the tower collection on the PS2 with regards to adding VHunter characters to VsaV.

While the collection lacked all the games and some meaningful extras it's by far the best way to play either Vampire Hunter or Vampire Savior if you don't have the arcade board available. Capcom didn't help though by barely advertising the port at all and then turning around and acting surprised when nobody bought it.

>>16539226

>Don't tell me it's because it's cheaper to produce.

Okay then; all their talented artists have left the company years ago and the time restraints the higher ups put on devs teams would make 2D next to impossible.

>>16539273

That's why it's a mediocre port. They went with just throwing arcade perfect ports of 2 games to please the tourney scene instead of putting in an effort to please 80% of the remaining darkstalkers fanbase.

>>16539009

>on the chopping block

That isn't what that phrase means. You want to say "back on the table" or "back at bat."

>>16539273

It really bothers me the Sega Saturn JP-exclusive Darkstalkers game with all the characters wasn't included. The roster missing several characters is one of the most irksome things about VSav.

>>16539441

It's a common idiom;

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/on%20the%20chopping%20block

>>16539380

> to please 80% of the remaining darkstalkers fanbase.

What else could they have added for these people? From memory the only things in previous console versions that I think would need to come back are a port of the first Darkstalkers, Marionette, more concept art and that would really be it. You could include VsaV2 and Hunter 2 but if Capcom wanted to do the arranged modes they would have to do it from the ground up as I've read any version of the full roster versions has huge damage nerfs, janky hitboxes, and irregular spreads of mechanics.

As it stands Resurrection is a solid port, has a great training mode and a tutorial that's pretty good at giving you an understanding of each character although they could do a better job explaining links for specific character's moves. I wouldn't say it's mediocre but it's still lazy although I suspect this is a semantics issue as my idea of "average" is probably your "mediocre"

>>16538014

Darkstalkers is like Metroid: a game everyone supposedly loves but no one actually plays or buys.

Probably for the best anyway. Don't forget how ugly Morrigan was in MvCi. And with their recent output, Imagine a photorealistic Darkstalkers in the current year.

>>16539056

>Capcom is very likely never going to make a 2D game ever again

I miss the CPS2 magic of the 90's…

>>16539825

>a game everyone supposedly loves but no one actually plays or buys.

that can be said about a lot of fighting games, really. especially old kusoge on fightcade or shit like UNIST or some obscure anime fighter that never got a rerelease.

>>16540642

The only thing I love more than games is pretending that I play the classics™ so that my friends will recognize my nerd cred and see how in tune I am with geek culture xDDD !

>>16539825

>Darkstalkers is like Metroid: a game everyone supposedly loves but no one actually plays or buys

>one buys or plays Metroid

What a retarded statement.

>>16539461

Yes, and if you look at the webpage YOU LINKED, you'd see that it isn't being used correctly.

"On the chopping block" means likely to be cut off or let go, which is the exact opposite of the point the anon was making: that Darkstalkers may be likely to come back if the capcom redemption arc meme continues.

>>16543980

People just say they love the game offhand to garner ebin gamer street cred.

>>16543909

I don't think anyone here actually plays MK here. even playing SFV or smash is less embarrassing than that.

>>16543909

Does it have any news beyond the most recent balance patch? MK and DBFZ at least have some character trailers.

>>16544133

The thread is meant to record news. At this point, SCVI is a known quantity unless a patch significantly changes the system mechanics.

>>16544146

>being a sperg

Make the next thread if it bothers you so much. Christ.

>>16544001

I play MK and have asked if anyone wanted KOTH nights but I seem to be the only one

>>16540782

>your brain develops naturally over time

Well, he's had 20+ years and is now a man-child. So things have to be LEARNT

>>16544133

>>16544172

News update on the entire fg game genre every week or so is expecting a lot? idk, I still play ST.

>>16544869

Which combos?

Clap clap brr

>>16529733

Pics or it didn't happen

>>16543980

I wouldn't consider a bunch of the Metroid games selling millions to be a sign that no one plays them, unless you're some corporate kike that thinks a game's only successful if it sells 6 gorillion copies.

>>16545303

specifically the combo that goes.

dark upper, dark upper, f/d 1, rising 4, b/d 2-4, into shining shining wizard.

>>16529825

I was reading a translation for awhile but the site went down. Don't know if there are any others

Is there a cooler military fitan character than Akatsuki?

Could uMvC3 be re-released? Someones missing out on superhero bucks.

>>16558551

Looks terrible, they should have went with yuri.

>>16551364

It got re-released like 2 years ago already.

>>16558551

Looks like a modded Marie Rose. Again, I'll say it's a poor choice - her move set has too much bs so all the flashy moves are reserved for grabs, holds and the super. Could also swear Mai got her tits cut down but that may be in comparison to KoF and this is the same model from DOA5.

>>16558575

Never seen "Vanessa" so oddly misspelled. :^)

I'm too lazy to investigate myself, but maybe anyone here knows why DOA6 facial and body animations doesn't seem so sexy as they were in DOA5?

Agree.

>>16558705

Me too

>>16558696

>DoA6 less sexy

Working as intended :^)

>>16559694

I remember a lot of those MUGEN cartoon characters being a lot more complex than they let on. Fat Albert had an entire second form with a completely separate moveset.

Looking to get into MUGEN. Want to make a game for local play. Last I looked the community seemed full of fags that hoarded characters and stages. Any good database of such things that don't require lurking 8 old forums with broken links and requirements like sucking some guys dick that just ripped sprites from old capcom games? Also, did they ever figure out netplay?

I want to make a SF3 clone with HD/wide screen stages but replace parry mechanics with just defend/cancel from MOTW. I also thought about maybe adding KoF style rolling.

Has there been good progress with ikemen in the last few years? Last time I it there were a lot of bugs and most mugen assests didn't work witb it.

They added Kula to SamSho too! Yes, I now she's a much older character.

>>16559995

>>16560052

There's a custom fighter discord with download links to Fighter Maker 2000 and assorted other files. I can give you the invite link if you're willing to put up with the cancer.

>>16560031

What are those files for? From context, I would assume MUGEn, but I'm not familiar with the .xbs or .tga file extension in the 7z archives.

>>16562151

ultradavid is a jewish lawyer. Not kidding. Also a cuck. One of the few gainfully employed FGC.

>>16564805

A jew ending up to be a lawyer is like NEET status for humans, though.

>>16564747

>not wanting mina in the game

Which leak? Which characters are supposed to be DLC?

>>16558551

>>16558679

>>16560242

SNK ICE Roris are better than SFV Cooler..Kula

>>16570212

vf5

>>16565203

>thinking mina was a good addition to the series

I also have never played Samurai Shodown but wank to its girls on Pixiv anyway.

A leak from cuckchan that spread by word of mouth says the season pass will contain Rimururu (confirmed), Iroha, Basara and a new character, though Basara is sometimes switched out for Shizumaru. Rimururu was already leaked by Vergeben (who also confirmed Shiki), but she was a safe pick for the season pass either way so I'm not sure if the cuckchan leak holds water.

>>16570808

>I also have never played Samurai Shodown

why not anon? it's on fightcade & gets a pretty decent player count especially near the weeekends it's better to be a scrub than a waifufag

Is doa6 less popular among fighting game community than doa5?