5a3107 No.16481925
>see that Stalker games are on sale
>not sure if it's good enough or not
I've heard /v/ mention it very often but many criticize it for it's harsh difficult. Is it System Shock 2 difficult? Is the modding community very useful/benefitial for games like this? What tips can you give for starting players?
Yes, I know there is another one, I checked the catalog, but I wanted a beginner specific thread.
c0af5d No.16481934
>>16481925
>but many criticize it for it's harsh difficult
5a3107 No.16481997
79dac0 No.16482240
>>16481925
1) don't buy the game. none of the original devs are getting the revenue since they got kiked out.
2) always play on master difficulty, not only because playing on anything lower makes you a pussy, but because anything below that turns you and the enemies into bullet sponges and it's just a headache in general.
3) have some cheap vodka on hand if you're planning on playing the game without patches because it will drive you up the goddamn wall otherwise. also for a more authentic experience
4) play a full playthrough on vanilla without mods but with the patch, you'll appreciate it much more.
also download CoC when you're through, it mashes all the games maps into one and is pretty enjoyable. also don't play misery, it's rubbish
These points kinda apply to all the games, so do with that what you wish.
i would've posted that one infographic that kinda summarizes the same shit i've already said here and some more, but i can't fucking find it so forgive me
503863 No.16482452
I took me a while to sit down and try it, but I'm currently on my first playthrough of SoC with the patches and nothing else. It's pretty fun but you are going to want a scope as soon as you can get one.
6c58e0 No.16482653
>>16481925
>What tips can you give for starting players?
find the config setting to reduce the head bobbing before anything else.
672918 No.16482686
a599a2 No.16482708
Don't bother. I've tried getting into STALKER multiple times and it always disappoints. It doesn't look particularly good, its buggy as fuck, the map is mostly empty and there are hazard/invisible walls all over it.
b7a36c No.16482725
>>16482240
>3) have some cheap vodka on hand if you're planning on playing the game without patches because it will drive you up the goddamn wall otherwise. also for a more authentic experience
Please use the vodka for PC cooling instead of drinking it. One mistake of new players that make them die frequently is that they think they could just apply CoD/CS run and gun tactics to blaze through the map. In stalker, good players frequently take cover, lean around barricades, crouch while firing and only move when there's no apparent danger around.
Else you'll wind up like this faggot >>16482708
>>16482248
Enjoy your incessant artificial difficulty?
8cf59a No.16482729
I’m playing through soc patched for the first time. It’s fine I guess, the guns feel great but overall it’s honestly kind of boring. I particularly really dislike a lot of the large scripted fights, they tend to be more frustrating than anything, especially if you don’t savescum every two minutes. Also pirate that shit you dumb fuck.
>>16482653
This anon is right, the head bobbing is infuriating
79dac0 No.16482735
>>16482725
if running like a CoDkiddie doesn't work and they keep doing it - they should probably just go and play a different game
862ac2 No.16482746
>>16482725
>Incessant artificial difficulty
It's not hard once you get the hang of it. You just need to use your armor slots for carbon steel plates and the like. The only problems I've had so far is the X-ray engine itself bugging out.
0ec7fe No.16482765
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16481925
It's a lot more shallow than I expected and it's not really open-world, but a series of connected levels. I don't know, I kind of went in with grander expectations after I read the book. Atomic Heart seems to be thematically more what I was hoping for, but I'm wary after seeing the gameplay.
a599a2 No.16482800
>>16482725
>hurr you play the game wrong
Of course I took cover, crouched, leaned out of cover etc. I've played a lot of games.
2a58a3 No.16482805
>>16482240
This.
It doesn't matter how much of a buyfag you are or how much you like the game, you shouldn't buy STALKER.
955272 No.16482817
>>16481925
I like it, but I am not good with a keyboard for movement as I have HTPC setup. The difficulty is not apparent because you need to be smart to avoid ambushes and being exposed. The environment is excellent, you want to know what is over there and explore it.
3d7bab No.16482834
>>16482765
>Atomic Heart
Now I wish I had saved a screen cap about the leaks about the behind the scenes about this game. Apparently the whole developement is a massive shitshow.
75fefb No.16482866
>>16482240
>don't buy the game. none of the original devs are getting the revenue since they got kiked out.
>none of the original devs
>none of the original devs
>none of the original devs
What are you smoking? As far as I know Anton Bolshakov is still buddies with Sergey. The only ones who left are the talentless hacks.
Yuriy Negrobov is responsible for the trash that is the metro franchise. Ruslan Didenko is responsible for Vostok Games, the insufferable kikes who made Survarium - an unfinished P2W nu-stalker shooter game and then re-used all the assets to make a pay 2 play battle royale that to no one's surprise sucked and was dead on arrival.
It seems to me that all these devs are overrated shitters and that without Sergey and Anton are incapable of making a good game. Call Sergey a motorcycle-loving kike all you want, but at the end of the day he wasn't the one responsible for the trash that is made by all these "ex-stalker hurr" devs. From what I gather, Sergey is the slav Fukushima and the other designers are little slav Kojimbos
0ec7fe No.16483003
>>16482834
Can you summarize?
38f644 No.16483067
>>16481925
>Is it good enough?
Yes
>Is it difficult?
Just accept that you will die a lot, and save often
>Mods?
There are a wealth of mods. I only ever used Oblivion Lost for SoC. Never seen anyone shit on it, never seen anyone praise it, but I enjoyed it. Adds guns, cut monsters, maps and random blowouts for a more Stalker experience
>Tips?
Practice headshots/ aiming for the head. Almost every human enemy can be instantly killed with a headshot, even with the weakest firearms
75fefb No.16483188
>>16483139
>bro plz buy the game
Where in that entire post did I tell anyone to buy the games, faggot?
>these faggots are nothing without these two hacks that did small amounts of wor here and there
Your beloved ex-stalker devs haven't made a single decent game ever since they left GSC, and yet you continue o shill them. They're talentless hacks, I have absolutely no reason to believe it was them who made S.T.A.L.K.E.R. what it was. Sergey and Anton where the ones making the main decisions.
80839c No.16483200
Is scoped/ironsight aiming bugged or something? I swear like 1/10 shots end up where I'm aiming, but if I shoot from the hip I get headshots most of the time
75fefb No.16483237
>>16483209
>He thinks Anton - the game's director, and Sergey - the entire project's producer, aren't the ones who decide on the fun mechanics.
>He unironically believes Yuriy and Ruslan - one responsible for metro and the other for survarium, are the ones who made S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fun
75fefb No.16483245
>>16483243
Oh, I was trying to argue with an underage redditor all along
9709b9 No.16483260
>>16482725
>Enjoy your incessant artificial difficulty?
But Misery is pretty easy. What are you on about?
1ebd1a No.16483272
>>16483263
This is a shitpost.
ce0194 No.16483280
>Stalker is hard
>Enemies go down with headshots
>The combat is a test of reflexes. If you're quick enough you can kill everything quickly.
af7885 No.16483311
>>16482866
>telling anyone to buy games on /v/
>telling anyone to donate to Sergey's next Ferrari purchase
Go back to wherever you came from.
75fefb No.16483323
>>16483311
>>telling anyone to buy games on /v/
But I literally didn't. I only told anon he was stupid to think that the ex-devs deserve money, or that everyone left.
1ca57c No.16483487
>>16481925
Just pirate it and see for yourself. First SoC then CoP. CS only if you really care about the plot, since its widely considered the worst of the series. it is
Don't bother with mods on your first playthrough, maybe just the essentials (bugfixes and such). After you learn the ropes you can feel free to jump on any mod you want Narodnaya solyanka variants are breddy gudd and will provide fuckloads of fun, if you can handle the most slavic quest design the world has ever seen
c2efde No.16486198
Has anyone here actually played the multiplayer on SoC?
What’s it like?
49b9c6 No.16486223
>>16481925
It's a pretty shitty game with artificial difficulty.
75fefb No.16486373
>>16486333
>IP hoping this hard
Fuck off, retard. Imagine being so utterly worthless at video games
460f19 No.16491002
Wish call of Chernobyl didn't crash so much.
Some sort of inventory bug always insta crashes it along with certain weapons firing.
7a563e No.16491028
>>16491002
Are you running any other mods along side it? I played a lot of CoC and never had crashes just from using the inventory or weapons firing, just the odd crash after playing for hours.
7a563e No.16491030
>>16491028
Oh and I forgot, but playing that mode that switches your character on death always crashes for me but it's the only type of constant crashing I've found.
5868f4 No.16491129
2c99d9 No.16491157
>>16481925
No it's a shit game and is only goon bait.
The only thing, and I mean the only thing this game has going for it is "Atmosphere"
And what is that atmosphere? A bunch of cheesy fake accent Russian characters.
Slenderman-like mobs, with the rest of the mobs being humans or slow creepy crawlers
The same played out post apocalyptic setting where searching for rusty spoons, is considered "entertaining"
Oh yeah, they also programmed some NPC's to sing campfire songs. Whoopy fuckin Doo
Goon Bait.
As for the actual game part. It sucks.
Shooting is as crappy as a bethesda game. Fans Shills will tell you to play on the higher difficulty because you will shoot less in total on the high difficulties.
Movement is clunky for players and NPCs.
Inventory and UI is utter garbage.
Sound mixing is crap.
World is linear and not open world.
Game Engine is utter garbage. Mods are shit to, all made by goons who have hipster boners for Soviet Russia.
You want a better game with a Dark and Creepy aesthetic? Play the original Thief games.
>>16482765
Atomic Heart is so far behind in development that it's basically Vaporware.
bd084b No.16491170
>>16491129
You like headbobbing?
I find it really difficult to play anything with it, it's so distracting.
bd084b No.16491185
>>16491157
I know all of this is bait, but
>World is linear and not open world.
Open world games are in 99% of cases utter garbage and Stalker's level design – multiple maps that connect with each other and are very open – is much better and more focused than any open world trash.
2c99d9 No.16491198
>>16491185
>Stalker's level design – multiple maps that connect with each other and are very open – is much better and more focused than any open world trash.
There is nothing about Stalkers level design that is "focused". It isn't even open world yet It feels more empty that a Just Cause game.
It's the same Post-Apocalyptic trash as every other game. where the emptiness is supposed to be "thematic". Hell I'd say Bethesda's shitty Fallout games are probably more "focused" than Stalker's.
Ultimately a Bethesda game's focus is to make a theme-park exploration game, but it is a focus none the less. Stalker's game design is a jumbled mess just like it's shitty game engine.
I'm not baiting, this is 100% what I think of Stalker after playing it through. Over-rated garbage game.
368aec No.16491234
>>16483003
I only remember hearing that the entire trailer was scripted and made up and has nothing to do with the actual state of the game. They did that in order to trick publishers into giving them money which actually worked until the publisher (I forgot which ones it was) actually saw the state of the game and then immediately bailed out.
75fefb No.16491238
>>16491157
>>16491198
>mfw I will never be this niggerlicious
0b76f9 No.16491240
>>16491198
>>16491157
1/10, trying way too hard.
60b93a No.16491242
>>16491170
Headbobbing is shit, and I think I recall hearing that it's bugged and exaggerated in Stalker besides. Even if it isn't, headbobbing as a concept is fucking stupid. You don't consciously notice your vision moving all over the fucking place from normal movement, or even from running. Your brain is made to essentially edit it out, just like its many other tricks related to human vision. It's something that only deluded "realism"fags support because it trades actual realism for what clueless morons consider to be realism. You find it distracting because it shouldn't be there, you don't actually feel your head moving around from normal motions. They turned something that humans have learned to not be distracted by into a distraction.
bc0fce No.16491347
>>16482866
Sergey is a fucking lambo driving faggot that overworks his code drones. Go work at a chinese sweatshop nigger
981a17 No.16491533
STALKER is just a shit game, it's anti-establishment, which I get, but it's not as good as any of the Fallouts, and that really is saying how shit it is.
I do love that comfy music when you are in the town or whatever but the mechanics are shit.
also make sure to get that armor on the roof in the first town
195d27 No.16491546
>>16482653
Don't forget to fix the squat depth
107408 No.16491644
>>16491242
Yeah I never understood the head bobbing retardation, you have a neck for a reason man
54e203 No.16491682
>>16491644
>>16491242
Headbobbing is the same kind of bullshit as motion blur.
>turn head quickly
>split second of blur that you don't even notice is there unless you consciously think about it
<turn character a bit
<half a fucking second long blur that's impossible not to notice
I always turn that garbage off.
a5fa5b No.16491703
>>16491242
>>16491644
>>16491682
i'd compare head bobbing more to lense flare. its a camera effect because it treats the perspective of the player as a camera instead of an actual persons perspective.
"""cinematic"""
a9c363 No.16491715
>>16491157
>post apocalyptic
107408 No.16491721
>>16491682
>>16491703
>Fucking motion blur
God I fucking hate that. I mean it's like the whole "shaky cam" shit in movies, you're right it's basically a camera effect
0e0b80 No.16491725
Play it vanilla first to get a feel for it, whether or not you beat them is up to you. Just don't bother with the complete mods. They are anything but vanilla 2.0 and casualize the games.
ShoC has a lot of variety with mods like Stalker soup being a very peculiar mod, very telling of it's Russian origin. The definitive experience for stalker is probably AMK 1.4. Lurk was good back in the day, but is very dated compared to other newer stalker mods. My all time favorite mod had to be Zone of Alienation, but it was plagued with game breaking bugs that the devs gave up on, it's really too bad, because there was a lot of awesome ideas like loading your own magazines. I recently played radiophobia, and despite the economy being all over the place I kind of liked it. I had to go into the files myself to get the traders to sell weapons and ammo that were in the files but for some reason incredibly rare.
Clear sky is skippable, it's gimmick was faction wars and that's been replaced by the warfare mod in CoC.
CoP is probably the best vanilla experience, however it also has the most the most streamlined experience of the three games. Misery was a complete shitfest on it's release, it's buggy and the devs played dark souls once, and thought that would translate over well to stalker. A fucking bandit would be able to tank a few 7.62x54r rounds to the face and snipe you from across the map with a makarov. There were some mods that fixed the balance, but the quality of the mod is still all over the place. Gunslinger mod never ever.
Call of Chernobyl is a standalone freeplay mod of CoP that can be pieced together for your own stalker experience. You make your own character in whatever faction you please and go on from there. Go onto moddb and tack on whatever addons you want. Plenty of shit from new textures, character models, weapons, balance, story etc. There's also different standalone interpretations of CoC, including Call of Misery, Last Day, and Anomaly.
17ea33 No.16491748
>>16482240
>but because anything below that turns you and the enemies into bullet sponges and it's just a headache in general
Please stop.
54e203 No.16491749
>>16491725
>A fucking bandit would be able to tank a few 7.62x54r rounds to the face and snipe you from across the map with a makarov. There were some mods that fixed the balance, but the quality of the mod is still all over the place.
I'm doing Misery playthrough right now actually, and it's not bad at all. Bandits don't really have that good an aim (roughly equal to yours, tbh. They'll miss plenty but yeah, he is going to hit you from a large distance even with a shit weapon eventually, but it'll be like one shot out of ten at best. Nothing I'd consider cheating), but you can actually lower it in the settings if you want to. They never survive a round to the face unless they're wearing a good helmet, and even then it'll bring them to about half HP.
My only complaint is the economy – it's only really serious during the first few hours, but after a few runs, you'll be swimming in cash as usual, which leads to a big drop in difficulty since Misery is pretty autistic with equipment, and having good gear matters massively.
b96b20 No.16491761
>>16491157
I'm gonna start describing games I dislike as goonbait, thanks.
a5fa5b No.16491805
>>16491721
movies make me sick because of that crap. they do it to obscure poor physical acting. thats why kung fu movies have such cheesy actors; they find guys that can do the cool stuff but they cant really act.
instead we hire "great" actors to make "action" movies and use camera tricks to obscure/hide "action"
2c99d9 No.16491855
>>16491761
It's literally just this game. Which is why it gets shilled so hard.
Maybe I should call them Slavboos rather than goons, but whats the difference anyways?
If you notice, nobody disproved my points. I'm being honest here.
Game sucks.
17ea33 No.16491870
>>16491855
>nobody disproved my points
The bulk of your post is merely shit opinions, and opinions are non-falsifiable and thus can't be "disproven". It does contain factual inaccuracies like:
>because you will shoot less in total on the high difficulties
Which is the exact opposite of how it works in SoC, while weapon damage and enemy resistances are static in CS and CoP.
For the rest of your shit, why even bother? It's "I dislike olives, prove me wrong!" levels of wank.
54e203 No.16491873
>>16491855
>nobody disproved my points
More like nobody bothered with an obvious retard that thinks STALKER is post-apocalyptic and who thinks his shit opinions are arguments.
da6faf No.16491878
>>16491157
>shitting on STALKER
So it begins. Everything you love will eventually be hated. Morrowind, Yume Nikki. Now STALKER. What's next? Doom?
9e5208 No.16491881
>>16482866
Calm down Sergei. We get it, you good hardworking game designer
2c99d9 No.16491911
>>16491873
>More like nobody bothered with an obvious retard that thinks STALKER is post-apocalyptic and who thinks his shit opinions are arguments.
It is post-apocalyptic! Not a world wide post-apoc, but a localized apocalypse the same way Chernobyl was in real life.
Because of this everything looks ugly, You have to scavenge for crappy broken items that look like shit, et cetera.
Yeah you get visited by, and have to fight people from outside the zone but you never leave the zone.
So if the play area is post-apoc then that means the game is a post apocalyptic game retards.
You can call my points opinions, but once OP boots up the game I think he's going to find I was right on a lot of things.
>>16491878
Putting Stalker next to the likes of Morrowind and Doom is completely undeserved.
Doom and Morrowind are in a completely different league than Stalker.
b79c77 No.16491916
>>16491878
Contrarians will always find something to bitch about. It never ends.
9f02ff No.16491934
>>16491157
>sing
You didn't even play the game, you just watched videos on youtube and consumed too many memes. Take a break from imageboards and play some vidya anon, you are clearly becoming deranged.
a5fa5b No.16491935
>>16491870
>wank
oi, you got a loicense for that profanity?
Can you elaborate on the differences between how damage works in SoC/CS/CoP? im playing them for the first time and started with SoC and am playing on stalker difficulty. i like it so far where it feels challenging without feeling cheap. i REALLY like the shooting when its people and not supernatural entities
>>16491878
morrowind was good for the time, but tbh is hasnt aged very well. i guess people still look at it with reverence because it hasnt really been topped in its own genre, but time hasnt been kind to it overall.
a5fa5b No.16491940
>>16491934
>sing
my favorite stalker campfire song was cheeki breeki.
iv damke, yaknow?
2c99d9 No.16491943
>>16491916
I've listed 12 reasons why stalker sucks. All you shills can do is call me names while you try and trick lurkers into buying your shit game on sale.
Pathetic.
b79c77 No.16491985
>>16491943
>All you shills can do is call me names while you try and trick lurkers into buying your shit game on sale.
Yes anon, you've clearly exposed us. Everyone on this site except for you is a shill, and us telling people to pirate the game is actually a psychological trick to get them to buy it for more shekels. Half of the thread being used to call you a fucking idiot is clearly evidence of our grand conspiracy, rather than you just being a fucking idiot.
a5fa5b No.16492015
>>16491157
>The only thing, and I mean the only thing this game has going for it is "Atmosphere"
k
>And what is that atmosphere? A bunch of cheesy fake accent Russian characters.
no, the atmosphere of the world and setting.
>Slenderman-like mobs, with the rest of the mobs being humans or slow creepy crawlers
what mobs are you talking about specifically? i cant think of any that fit this description
>The same played out post apocalyptic setting where searching for rusty spoons, is considered "entertaining"
huh? that stuff is optional in stalker.
>Oh yeah, they also programmed some NPC's to sing campfire songs. Whoopy fuckin Doo
no they didnt
>As for the actual game part. It sucks.
no it doesnt
>Shooting is as crappy as a bethesda game.
shooting is more like farcry 2 but with better AI.
>Fans Shills will tell you to play on the higher difficulty because you will shoot less in total on the high difficulties.
ok
>Movement is clunky for players and NPCs.
not every fps has to be quake/doom.
>Inventory and UI is utter garbage.
its pretty standard, does it confuse you?
>Sound mixing is crap.
is it?
>World is linear and not open world.
linear>open world
>Game Engine is utter garbage.
its dated for sure
>Mods are shit too
youve tried them all?
>all made by goons who have hipster boners for Soviet Russia.
its a chernobyl/nuclear/apocalypse fetish, not a commie fetish
>>16491943
there, i've appropriately responded to your " 12 reasons" … happy?
a8c14f No.16492023
>>16481925
Try to go into anomalies with an artifact detector
Throw bolts at the places where you get killed
Try picking up artifacts.
17ea33 No.16492025
>>16491935
The quick and easy explanation for damage is that when you raise the difficulty, you're reducing your base damage resistance. In SoC your weapon damage is also tied to difficulty, so playing on Stalker will have you dealing roughly 15% more damage than you would on Master. Easy, right? Now things are about to get retarded.
So we've got super bullets, which are largely what's responsible for mongoloids thinking that you do more damage on higher difficulties. Super bullets are shots fired outside cooldown period listed for the specific weapon (time_to_aim = X where X is the number of seconds). If a shot that is registered as a super bullet hits the head hitbox (do note that the jaw doesn't count, and with some enemies like bloodsuckers, the 'jaw' hitbox covers the bulk of their head from the front) it gains a 500% damage multiplier to humans, or a 1000% damage multiplier to mutants.
With all of that, on higher difficulties the simple fact that your base resistances are in the shitter will necessitate you taking a slow, methodical approach to combat situations, typically meaning carefully aimed headshots. That tricks players into thinking that the increased damage they're experiencing is coming from the difficulty setting instead of them accidentally exploiting the super bullet system due to environmental factors.
2c99d9 No.16492030
>>16491985
Maybe you are just an idiot who didn't realize that there is another thread for Stalker already
Maybe you didn't realize that the first words spoken by the OP are "This game is on sale"
Maybe you didn't notice that the OP's pathetic excuse to not get this thread trimmed is to reframe it as a "beginners" thread.
If not shill you are a useful idiot.
3d9bf5 No.16492032
>guy gives points why game is not good
>nobody will refute him despite it apparently being easy to do
I fucking hate /k/ for being obsessed with this game. Now you can't say anything negative about STALKER without fifteen Slavophiles jumping down your throat.
a8c14f No.16492047
>>16492032
The game has its flaws, but they're not as bad as breaking the entire game and bringing you down to your desktop screen (i'm looking at you todd)
39d124 No.16492049
>>16491943
You are one of the most Ill informed faggots I have ever had the displeasure of sharing an image board with, I seriously considered you a troll when you first posted because you were so factually incorrect it made me illogically angry. Please actually research your arguments and lurk before spewing facebook tier misinformation, you genuine mongoloid
2c99d9 No.16492095
>>16492015
>what mobs are you talking about specifically? i cant think of any that fit this description
Bloodsuckers were like slenderman. With the bears and dogs being beasts and rats being the crawlers.
>huh? that stuff is optional in stalker.
The setting is not optional
>no they didnt (sing)
guitar, whatever.
>shooting is more like farcry 2 but with better AI.
Far Cry 2 had shit shooting as well. AI is nothing great in either of these games.
>not every fps has to be quake/doom.
I'm sorry were my standards to high for you anon?
>is it? (the sound mixing crap)
It was probably more of an engine thing but it would loop ambient noises way too fucking much for me.
>linear>open world
Yet people give the impression that the game is open world.
Personally I don't really care if a game is open world or not.
The truth is that Stalker was Open world originally, but they had to redevelop the game.
>there, i've appropriately responded to your " 12 reasons" … happy?
Actually yes. I do enjoy discussing things like this.
bd084b No.16492126
>>16492032
Because everything he said was bullshit and gives away that he either never played it or only tried it for half an hour at best.
The game has its faults and if he criticised those few would disagree, but the faggot clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
a6c21e No.16492128
>>16481925
>Stalker games are on sale
<not pirating 12 year old games that GSC gets buttfuck royalties from
>not sure if it's good enough or not
<the 10+ years people have spent discussing and building communities around STALKER somehow doesn't indicate they may be good games
>but many criticize it for it's harsh difficult.
<taking BAAAAAW ITS HARD as legit criticism
>Is it System Shock 2 difficult?
<SS2
<difficult
Just fuck off. Holy shit is this the mos5 casual, faggoty OP I've seen in months.
>>>/cuckchan/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/resetera/
Check my singles.
2c99d9 No.16492144
>>16492128
Yeah I only came to this thread because it is obviously trying to bait fence-sitters.
I don't need to take my autism into the fan-threads.
But Marketing/discussion threads? Those are fair game in my book.
a5fa5b No.16492161
>>16492095
>Bloodsuckers were like slenderman. With the bears and dogs being beasts and rats being the crawlers.
those the guys that warp your vision? i hate those. the dogs/bears/pigs or whatever are pretty fast but mostly run away from me unless its a big hungry pack and im approaching their food.
>The setting is not optional
i was referring to the looking for rusty spoons. that stuff is optional. i like the setting.
>guitar, whatever.
weird way to nitpick. i like the campfires. what would you prefer the AI do? just stand around?
>Far Cry 2 had shit shooting as well
what was shit about it? both games feel what its like to actually shoot a gun without feeling like a simulation.
>I'm sorry were my standards toO high for you anon?
do you also think swat 4 or rainbow 6 should have quake like movement? cmon, you know different movement types have their place.
> loop ambient noises way too fucking much for me.
i havnt had this problem, which game did that for you?
>Yet people give the impression that the game is open world.
k
>Personally I don't really care if a game is open world or not.
k
>The truth is that Stalker was Open world originally, but they had to redevelop the game.
im glad they changed their mind. i hate open worlds.
> I do enjoy
good, i also have autism.
>>16492025
holy shit. does it have that in the user manual or something? whats the optimal difficulty to play these games on? im currently enjoying stalker difficulty on SoC. its still hard enough without being tedious.
17ea33 No.16492175
>>16492161
>does it have that in the user manual
Hahahahah, no. Optimal difficulty for vanilla is whatever you personally prefer. Once you complete the series and revisit it with mods, most are balanced around the idea that you're playing on Master.
ef1872 No.16492796
>>16491748
Even if what you were saying is true, I can't imagine not playing this game on master. You fucking faggot.
17ea33 No.16492861
>>16492796
>explaining that you don't do more damage on master = telling people never to play on master
You must have brain problems. That's okay! You're in good company with 2c99d9.
a5ce53 No.16492871
>>16492861
why would you play on ez more where you deal more damage than the AI instead of the one where it deals equal. I always play on master but not because I want to deal more damage
17ea33 No.16492890
>>16492871
Good question. Read the post I was originally responding to here >>16491748 and then contemplate the chain of replies. It may take some time for it to click.
0b76f9 No.16492893
>>16492873
Why even bother responding to a shitposter that pretty much comes in these threads every time to say "its shit".
How do you prove something wrong when it hasnt even been proven right?
0b76f9 No.16492937
>>16492906
The post literally just calls the game shit, music shit, gunplay shit etc.
>">:((("
Stop sucking his dick and kill yourself.
0b76f9 No.16492975
>>16492965
Your next move is to tell us you're just pretending to be retarded and have 0 logic?
067a37 No.16492994
>>16481925
They're all piss-easy. You have to mod them to make it hard. Also, not modding is wrongbadfun.
fc59bb No.16494761
>>16491157
>Slenderman-like mobs, with the rest of the mobs being humans or slow creepy crawlers
>using the term mobs
>using the term Slenderman-like
LOL
>>16481925
Don't buy. Thanks for reminding me I need to actually finish SoC though, I played it for several hours yesterday and I'm nearing the end. Vets will probably know what circumstances I'm talking about:
>crawling around complex
>no enemies have appeared yet but i've heard growling and shuffling from at least one source in the winding tunnels
>wager it's a snork but better safe than sorry
>room ahead, most of it on the right hand side of the hallway i'm about to exit
>sounds are more intense, whatever it is must be around that corner
>peek it
>bloodsucker
>he sees me
>he starts charging
>i back up down the corridor
>i've been lugging an rpg around for the past hour or so
>it's time
>pause for a second: his pathing hasn't led him up here yet, can hear him running around
>whip it out
>wait another 10-15 seconds for this retard to get in the hallway
>wefuckingorwhat.jpg
>reequip my testicles and push
>he's right in the middle of the room
>unload into him
>BLAM
>a bit too close, damaged a bit, vision doubled, ears ringing
>the questions is: did i get him?
>kill confirmed when my vision refocuses: sprawled out a few feet further into the room
Tense.
17ea33 No.16494879
>>16494761
Sounds like you're in X-19. Shit's about to pop off.
656e53 No.16496003
>>16492032
>"it sucks"
>"goon"
>"i dont like this"
>"this is shit"
>"goon"
>"its crap"
>"goon"
<this is what passes for points now
Bullshit is answered with bullshit. Stop hopping any time.
934b9f No.16496100
>>16494879
Yeah, shit gets fun from then on out.
3fda28 No.16496130
>>16491198
God fucking damnit, I need the version of this with the knock. For the love of god someone please post it.
2c99d9 No.16498273
>>16496003
You mad I called you out goon?
I did have legitimate points.
Here I'll give you some elaboration.
Inventory is shit. If it's going to be that big then just make things a list. You already have a weight system anyways.
Voice acting is cheesy and the awkward writing doesn't help.
Game engine is shit. Apart from the constant crashing, janky animations, and other such things The movement sucks.
Run into an area with dense objects and debris? Expect to awkwardly clip and get stuck on those objects since Devs don't know how to fucking design anything involving gameplay.
Entire quests will bug out at random, more game breaking bugs than a Bethesda game. Spent more time googling bug fixes than any other game I've ever played.
Gunplay is shit mainly because of the Makarov, or what should actually be called the super-soaker. Recoils is stiff and janky.
Enemies and player alike are more bullet spongy than a Destiny game. More bullet spongy than a Halo game even.
Framerate craps out even on modern hardware.
If this game didn't have a bunch of Slavboo's sucking it's dick off for it's setting, then it would be considered shovel-ware.
Personally I'm over the whole Post-Apocalyptic crap. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Fallout, Last of Us, they can all go die in a fire for all I care.
I pirated Shadow of Chernobyl because i thought that maybe it would be different. (Since people couldn't stop sucking it's dick off.)
But no, it's just a crappy game whose glorious plot is just a Twilight Zone rip-off set in Russia.
Over rated.
427ec5 No.16498285
>>16498273
Bumping just so people can laugh at your ass.
a5fa5b No.16498316
>>16492032
>I fucking hate /k/ for being obsessed with this game
the reason /k/ likes it is because the shooting really feels like shooting a gun. especially when not using a scope.
>>16498273
embarassing.
2c99d9 No.16498484
>>16498316
By you logic /k/ likes fallout 3 because the shooting really "feels" like shooting a gun.
The only thing embarrassing thing here is losers like you who have shit taste.
>>16498285
>Bumping a shill thread.
Desperate.
a5fa5b No.16498502
>>16498484
>By you logic /k/ likes fallout 3 because the shooting really "feels" like shooting a gun.
But fallout 3 doesnt actually feel like shooting a gun, how is that even a comparison?
427ec5 No.16498516
>>16498484
You fire Plasma rifles in Fallout you fucking sperg.
>desperate
What, mad I brought this thread to front page so people could point and laugh?
>shilling a game share threads have a magnet for 24/7
your new is showing
f2a65e No.16498563
>>>/v/16481925
>Stalker games are on sale
>buying stalker games after the whole drama
c4fb40 No.16498581
>>16491748
Interesting.
I never knew.
Do better artifacts appear earlier in the game on higher difficulties?
>>16491878
The board is full of epic reddit contrarians trying too hard to fit in.
0a33ff No.16498625
>>16494879
Correct. Had a fun time. Taking a break now to work on my own game (which has some influences from stalker), but I'm getting close.
5aa9c0 No.16499794
>>16498273
I don't have any of the issues you claiming, stalker plays fine, I don't think I've ever gotten stuck in the environment in any stalker game, that only happened when I died, and it was actually funny because I turn into stretch armstrong, as for tanky ememy's usually the only time I run to tanky slavs is when they were in super end game armor, just learn to shoot the head byot, and no problem, I like the guns for the most part, as for the movement your not super solder your guy holding over full arsenal of shit on your back, if your me at least, the only time I can say I don't enjoy the game, is usually when I play a mod like misery and that just adds too much crap that it starts to make it less fun.
25f1e2 No.16500722
>>16482725
>Please use the vodka for PC cooling instead of drinking it.
Boris?
68b7a0 No.16500780
>tried to do iron man in CoC
>died
>can't go back to normal gameplay because the perma death makes the Zone actually dangerous and scary
>weapons matter
>armor matters in that if you are slow you will die but fast armor isn't as protective
Guys help
8c1626 No.16500847
>>16498625
aw shit nigga, I got a little team working on a game too, love s.t.a.l.k.e.r a lot so I am also getting influenced by it. But this game is mostly just trying to reach good atmosphere levels.
In the future if this game succeeds somewhat I would like to work either roadside picnic style of game, or game of my own design taking after it.
67bf82 No.16502850
>>16498273
>unplay is shit mainly because of the Makarov
You fucked up son. Getting that asspained about the Makarov tells me you played long enough to get a double shotty and the AK SU, but the shotty was killing you with long reload times, and you ran out of ammo for the AK SU, thus had to fallback on the Makarov for a good portion of your time.
The Makarov IS a piece of shit. Even on Master dificulty, a lot of NPC's survive an headshot from that thing (anything thougher than a bandit).
Because of this, I can tell you tried to fight enemies too far away from them. How? Because that's the only way you run out of ammo for the AK, and why the shotty didn't work out for you.
The AK works best in close range, when you peek behind cover, unload 7 to 12 shots on a guy and he goes down.
The shotty can down Bandits and soldiers (but not Mercs/Duty/Freedumbs) in one shoot too, at a close range. That means you gotta keep moving, flanking and engaging from different directions. IF you stay still, you'll drop two faggots, and get bumrushed while you reload that gun.
Your post was going well up until that part, when you demonstrated you played it for a grand total of 42 minutes and 21 seconds, and gave up because you're shit at it.
f4ff07 No.16502875
>>16498273
tl;dr: game is bad because I'm bad
c5ac9b No.16503510
>this faggoty thread is still up
Dubs
427ec5 No.16511718
212e09 No.16511768
>>16498273
>Inventory is shit. If it's going to be that big then just make things a list. You already have a weight system anyways.
This is hardly a point since it hardly fucking matters. Plus the base games hardly have clutter items like in some misery inducing mods so it still very easy to use.
>Voice acting is cheesy and the awkward writing doesn't help.
The voice-acting is cheesy but its not even an english produced game. Also whats so awkward about the writing?
>Game engine is shit. Apart from the constant crashing, janky animations, and other such things
Works on my machine nigger, I didn't patch the vanilla game the first time I played STALKER and I hardly had problems. It only started going to shit with mods.
>The movement sucks.
Lol what? How exactly? My only complaint is the shitty stamina in CoP.
>Run into an area with dense objects and debris? Expect to awkwardly clip and get stuck on those objects since Devs don't know how to fucking design anything involving gameplay.
This also never happens. The only time I clipped into something was when I quicksaved when I was crawling in a pipe and then when I reloaded, since I died like a retard after I got out of it, I was stuck.
>Entire quests will bug out at random, more game breaking bugs than a Bethesda game.
The only broken quests I've had were with the CoC mod. Comparing to Bethesda is just bad faith on your part.
>Spent more time googling bug fixes than any other game I've ever played.
Worked on my machine. I bet you haven't even played that long and are getting this impression from all the ebin Nikolai videos which intentionally rig the game.
>Gunplay is shit
>mainly because of the Makarov
<the shittiest weapon in the entire game that you don't even use anymore half-way through the first area
>Recoils is stiff and janky.
What the fuck does this even mean? If anything the screen hardly moves when firing.
>Enemies and player alike are more bullet spongy than a Destiny game. More bullet spongy than a Halo game even.
Play on Master you stupid nigger.
>Framerate craps out even on modern hardware.
I've only had performance issues with Clear Skies, Shadow of Chernobyl and Call of Pripyat run completely fine.
bebaf3 No.16511774
>goes into a thread solely about the game and complains
>hur dur i can't say anything negative about the game
>continues every-time it sees a new stalker thread
what the fuck you retards expect, no replies at all to your criticism? that's what you deserve. maybe you want a bunch tards patting you on the back for such an epic opinion
008f75 No.16511883
>>16492095
>With the bears and dogs being beasts and rats being the crawlers
The only rats in the game run upright rather than crawl and are wildly rare in SoC. Also what bears?
Did you actually play the vanilla game or just some mod, or perhaps did you only watch some faggot streamer play and then a bunch of the youtube meme videos? That'd explain why you bring up a 'slenderman' mutant which would be the Izlom/Fracture and doesn't appear without mods. I'll even go so far as guessing that when >>16492015 called you out and asked for names of mutants you went and looked up the list of mutants on the stalker wiki, saw the one you were talking about was listed as cut content and picked bloodsuckers nstead just because they were the most similar of what was actually in the game. This would also explain why you thought there was singing in the game.
9709b9 No.16511945
>>16481925
>read OP
<"Is it System Shock 2 difficult?"
>go play System Shock and System Shock 2 because they've been in my backlog forever and I want some challenge
Thanks for getting me to play pretty good gayms, but how the fuck is SS2 difficult? Enemies were spongier than in the first one, sure, but you also got really tanky, especially with armor. The only remotely difficult thing was ammo and weapon management, which were however solved by dropping some upgrades into maintenance and finding a replicator that sells ammo (or just investing into energy to get the laser pistol and lightsaber).
Stalker is more difficult on the account of you being nowhere near as beefy (although none of the games is particularly difficult either)
dfe359 No.16511988
>>16481925
>Asks is STALKER is good.
No its hot fucking buggy trash. But thats besides the point. Its still the best fucking game series ever devised due to the god tier levels of batshit and the comfy slav atmosphere.