/v/ - Happy E3

>>16479250

no it is true, sort of. You do a fresh start, access your bank via the crucible, and can start on ultimate from level 1.

Ok, the biggest new development patch-wise is that the devs finally caved and made Albrechts Aether Ray pierce (as they should have done from the start).

This has, of course, resulted in anyone and their mother making AAR builds.

The meta seems to be to try to convert as much of the beam as possible to either aether or lightning (though there are some full Clairvoyant's spellbinders who do a mix of aether and vitality). The preferred secondary class is either necro or inquisitor (due to their resist-busting skills).

Happy to see someone made a new thread, saw the interest vain a bit towards the end of the last one so thought I'd wait a bit to make a new one.

Latest patch is 1.1.2.2 so if a mod would be kind enough to edit that into the OP it'd be much appreciated. Reporting this post for mod edit request.

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>>16479175

>How are your builds coming along?

I've been theorycrafting a retaliation Dreeg's Evil Eye build an am curious how well it would do. The buffed 3-set bonus for Armor of the Three (+12% phys res) is cool and with the Bramblevine shield this build pushes 47% phys res.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAzWBBZ

Alternate version which uses the Seal of Shadows component skill as filler instead of Righteous Fury:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/p25rqMBV

Also trying to get my fire AoM build to work but I find the damage to be a bit lacklustre. Maybe I should sacrifice some of my defensive devotions to get Ulzuin's Torch. But it's a tough choice giving up Obelisk of Menhir on a shield build.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YVWLKarZ

Alternate version which uses Seal of Destruction component skill as filler instead of Righteous Fury:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/L2JaMXEN

>>16479312

They nerfed its damage so hard that I was put off the skill to be honest. AoE is a great quality of life adition but fact is that you could always make up for the lack of AoE with devotions and Devestation. Now it's just really bad against single targets which is the important part of SR.

>>16479362

Oh my bad, you also need to apply patch 1.1.2.0 before 1.1.2.2.

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Honestly at this point you should just save yourselves the trouble and buy the game instead, goyims anons.

>>16479560

They learned a lot from developing TQ, I find Grim Dawn to be better in every regard.

Some people prefer TQ's setting which is obviously more of a subjective thing, I enjoy greek mythology a lot but think GD's setting holds up well.

>>16479175

Oathkeeper is fucking busted man, I haven't even picked a second class and I've steamrolled Normal/Elite like it's nothing.

>>16479362

That tends to happen at the end of threads after they are past bump limit.

>>16479589

It's really solid. If you didn't lose so many stats from not picking a second class it could stand on its own pretty well I think.

>>16479625

I'm doing a physical eye of reckoning oath keeper + inquisitor with 10% lifesteal, x2.02 critical damage, enough OA to crit boss level enemies, 9 second word of renewal and double damage mitigation stacks on demand (inquisitor seal + ascension). It works like a charm with my devotions providing the physical resist debuffs and the shinning men of empyrion providing passive dps and even more resist debuffs.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V0Wy112

Here's a build link with my items and skills but no augments and components as I'm not posting from my pc. I also have an aegis of menhir build that runs on retaliation and aegis but that one's on hold at level 82 while I level to eye of reckoning build to level 100 and farm with it.

>>16479718

>Physical Paladin

Why though? Go fire. If you want physical EoR, go Warlord.

>My Fire EoR build:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/xZy6qEeN

>My Physical EoR build:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RVv6yrGV

They're both solid and can push over 1M dps but more than likely not perfect. Just wanted to give you some ideas of what you can do with EoR builds.

>>16479773

But if you're still leveling your character I guess physical Paladin is fine for the moment if you happen to find gear supporting it, just don't consider it an end-goal.

>>16479773

How does EoR even work mechanically with dual wield?

So, I've got my Witchblade in a decent spot now. Can finally kill Ultimate Mad Queen with him, and am trying crucible. So far I've cleared 1-150 in challenger, but died at 159. Tried gladiator and made it to 60, then started over from 50 a few times but couldn't make it to 100. If I'm able to stand and keep hitting a boss, they die fairly quickly, but I end up having to run around due to not being overly-tanky.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/b28E6DeV

Any ideas for gear or alterations to make this more Crucible-viable?

>>16480182

For each it tick of damage it cycles between using your left and right weapon to calculate its damage.

>>16480757

First of all not super familiar with Witchblade but I'll try to give some pointers.

Is it an accident that you don't have a point in the active effect of Aeon's Hourglass? Speaking of, do you really gain much benefit from Aeon? It's mostly a Cadence build without any meaty CD's vital to your build other than reducing Dying God a bit.

>Devotions

Together, Bat and Ghoul give another 7% lifesteal and the latter has a circuit breaker making it easier to facetank enemies. I also switched glove component for another 3% lifesteal.

You didn't have a source of flat resistance reduction so I grabbed Manticore.

Jackal is a nice filler with its 6% total speed and 2% physical resistance.

>Gear

I'm assuming many of your choices are based on what you've found so far so it's hard to critique your luck.

But definitely keep an eye out for the Voidheart Ring. Second ring would probably be Mythical Combustion ring for even more -RR to chaos or Mythical Entropic Coil because sweet flat chaos both on the right and by buffing Solael's Witchfire. Replace Voidwhisper first, Lifegiver is decent for survivability purposes.

The full Rah'Zin's Torment is probably your BiS option.

Ravager's Dreadgaze with lifesteal looks like one of the better head gear options. Will probably need better gear to take him on.

Eldritch Pact or Serenity, personally leaning towards Serenity since it boosts soldier skills too and makes you more survivable.

Boots are a tough choice, not many super appealing options. I'd go for Runeguard Greaves since it makes you tankier and boosts Field Command

>Skills

You want attack speed with a 2H so I maxed Squad Tactics.

OA is vital, maxed Blood of Dreeg. Physical resistance too, put more points in Aspect of the Guardian.

Scars of Battle for stun and freeze res and armor absorption.

Second Rite and Destruction are more 'luxury points', felt like they could be cut down a tad.

Increased Curse of Frailty a bit for QoL.

Do you get 100% chance to proc Eldritch Fire with Warcry? If not I suggest moving it to something else. If using my version without Manticore, put it on Sigil of Consumption.

<Build 1

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2E1QOn2

<Build 2

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAzO8wZ

Slight devotion changes without Manticore, if you get that medal with 15 flat RR this might be better as you get a good amount more OA and crit damage.

You should upload your files to the checklist and find out which quests you're missing for those 5 mastery points and 2 attribute points.

https://grimtools.com/checklist/

>>16481178

Oh so I should definitely get two copies of relevant 1h with skill bonuses to EoR before even considering to go dual wield compared to 2h since that would jack up my deeps too much wouldn't it?

I still have an embarrassing amount of end game gear to farm. I was pretty much dormant throughout AoM and the pre-release of FG. Last level 100 character I had was a necro-shaman vitality/self heal/lifesteal kite caster subtank

>>16479718

Is EoR really that good? I see a ton of people talking about it since the FG release like it's the hottest shit, I haven't used it on my warlord though.

>>16481403

Depends on what you're running. Stay away from it if you're pumping retaliation for example.

>>16481403

Its good for main content. For killing end game bosses is pretty weak. But if you are not in to Min/Max its good.

How does Wendigo's Mark work, does the debuff let me lifesteal with spells that don't use weapon % in its damage calculation?

>>16481390

Yeah the best strategy is to adjust your build based on the gear you have available. The two things that EoR benefits the most from is attack speed and flat damage bonuses. And of course resistance reduction like everything else.

>>16481403

It's really good but you need a lot of survivability skills if you want to go late game. It's totally doable though.

>>16479560

I've heard that the new update broke the game but how's the expansion on its own? Visually it looks great and it seems like they added some much needed quality of life improvements, shame that there's no new class though. God I wish TQ was as good as Grim Dawn.

>>16481506

No wendigo's mark works like a curse so it's exactly as it says on the can. A pre-determined amount of vit damage that ticks every second and 65% of the damage done is given back to you as hp. The benefit of wendigo's mark is it doesn't have a cooldown so the more people you can activate it on, the crazier the amount of hp you'll gain. I believe my necro shaman has it ticking at around 5k damage using the storm totem.

>>16481403

It's great. Damage on the move so you don't have to stop attacking while moving out of ground effects, extremely fast attack speed so you get consistent lifesteal and good proc rate, the damage is pretty good, and it has built in damage reduction debuff. It's practically the perfect skill. If it had a down side I'd say it has to be how it interacts with skill disruption, you just dead stop in your tracks. Also the fact that skills that have absolutely no animation like blood of dreeg or ascension still stop you for a split second when you use them. Both are fairly minor compared just how powerful the skill is.

>>16481509

>how's the expansion on its own?

very easy, the bosses are weak

sounds are too loud

atlantis can be beaten in about 2-4 hours

It's even shittier than Ragnarok.

>>16479312

>anyone and their mother making AAR builds.

I jumped on the bandwagon and played around with some different setups after which I ended up using the Black Flame set on a Warlock.

Anyone mind offering me some input on this? What could I improve?

>-75% chaos RR, -88% vitality RR, 25 flat RR

>All damage converted to chaos or vitality, 2k-2.2k chaos & vitality damage %

>52% physical resistance

>42% damage absorption

>200% cast speed, 87% crit damage with Hungering Void

Downsides are low DA, low armor, mediocre OA and no source of %RR. Could improve build a bit with a rare fire > vit conversion belt but I like theory building without green gear.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2Bzwvk2

Is messenger of war worth it if I'm not going for a retaliation build but EoR instead?

>>16481864

Do you need a flat source of damage absorption before the % increases actually are useful?

>>16481894

No, at most you get some movement speed and slow resistance out of it and movement speed is generally not hard to cap and you have easy access to slow resistance through Divine Mandate.

>>16481912

Alright, but then what should I go for? I've got 8 devotion points but no idea what to do with them.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/62a14aB2

I'm thinking about starting a new character because I have no idea what I was doing with this build other than trying to do summons and vampire/poison/.

>>16481864

Managed to get another 110 OA, 130 DA and 200 armor by adjusting devotions a bit more, lost 2% phys res but that's a good trade off.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/DV9kq0aN

>>16482656

If you're reaching the end of a difficulty I suggest powering through so you can buy the skip token for your next character.

What mastery combo did you go for?

>>16479197

Inventory management is dissapointing. They should copy diablo 3 console for that. And the "mark as junk" when you loot without needing to open inventory. That shit is awesome.

>>16482862

I dont think I'm getting to the end, I remembered why I stopped and it was because I needed to get to Smugglers Pass, my two combos were Occultist and Shaman.

>>16483277

>my two combos were Occultist and Shaman.

Its pretty strong combo what can clean endgame content. You can go 2 hand range/mele while taking poison/phys/ Vit as main damage. I would recommend start from Vines and Curse of Frailty while wearing good 2-hand riffle.

>>16483277

Yeah it's a pretty beginner friendly mastery combo what with all the easy healing and health. I'd do maybe something along these lines with a ranged or melee 2H like anon above suggested.

Just a rough outline, not really a guide. It's focused on right clicking with savagery, multiple links to show progression since I don't know your lvl. Maybe Grasping Vines is also good for lvling, but builds focusing on weapon damage tend to be able to use a greater variety of gear so might be better for someone without a stash full of gear for alts.

>1

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V0WD5R2

>2

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNY4JlXZ

>3

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NX4pKLN

>>16483325

I've been using 2 handed melee with focus on vit/poison damage, I have 4 summons and two AOE spells Dreeg's Evil Eye, and Sigil of Consumption, I have 4 other 3 other buffs but cant really remember what they do but I tend to rely more on evil eye because of how fast it is and how much damage it can do.

>>16479175

Is there a way to get that Grim Internals mod working on the pirated version, or did the person that made it force it to only work on paid copies?

Would be a good thing to add to the OP so people don't waste time on a simple issue that you should have checked/known about before posting.

>>16481964

I see, thanks for the advice.

>>16483870

I'm a good goy and bought the game so I don't know, but it also works with the GoG version according to the thread so it'd be odd if something was preventing specifically cracked steam versions.

>>16483910

From what I could find, the only way to get GI to work for pirated versions is to get the patched version of GI from the CS.RIN.RU thread. Also seems like GI doesn't work for the 1.1.2.2 Codex release, so I had to get the 1.1.2.3 and 1.1.2.4 CS downloads from that thread, and use the GI for 1.1.2.4

>>16483980

Huh that's odd, but yeah new game versions pretty much always break GI, probably because its an injector and how it reads the files or something.

>>16479773

I also tried converting to fire EoR with dual wielding empowered flamebrands, but for some reason even if I managed to triple my dps with fire damage, the build was no where as tanky as the physical EoR I was running. I wonder if it was just my fire gear being inferior.

>>16484755

>I wonder if it was just my fire gear being inferior.

Nothing about switching to fire would automatically make your build squishier.

Could be something like lower armor value, DA or armor absorption which are things I personally wasn't paying very much attention to whilst less experienced with GD (unlike the more noticeable health & resistances).

Maybe you even lost some source of lifesteal? It's your best source of sustain on an EoR build.

>>16484865

I actually managed to end up with 6% more life on fire (16 vs 10), the armor were comparable, physical's DA was superior and armor absorption remained the same at 70% because I'm still busy capping resistances. According to GI, when I was facetanking the AoM boss, I was getting hit around 1k dps with 8k being the largest burst which was very manageable. The fire build was taking 4k dps on default and 12k on burst, nearly killing me altogether if I didn't back off. I think the lowered DA is causing me to take crits maybe?

>>16484918

Yeah DA is pretty important, not only does it reduces the chance to be crit and hit but also the damage of said crits. Just like with OA there are some 'magic' values depending on your level where your dps or survivability will fall of greatly if you're falling below the enemies own DA and OA.

Another thing I wasn't paying attention to is Physical Resistance but chances are neither build had access to very much of it.

>literally every good necromancer build doesn't use skeletons

Necro rework fucking when?

>>16485509

They need their HP buffed, then add a transmuter which puts them at the current HP values but explodes upon death. Being able to summon more per cast is also needed.

It sucks because skeleton hordes are my fetish when it comes to minion builds in games like this.

>>16485526

>Mudslime skeletons with suicide vest

If they made it explode in vit damage and gives you convert to hp when they do that damage, it'll be hilarious to build around that.

Guize halp I got killed by a Level 2 dootington pls tell hao i left click

>>16485258

is that a bug actually dumping items or is it just some graphical glitch? 300+ hours and I've never seen that before.

>>16488022

You're better of getting Resistance reduction. If your build focuses on lightning I'd recommend the following:

>Widow

>Viper

>Rhowan's Crown

>Ultos, Shepherd of Storms

>>16488022

Just remember, elemental resist debuff works on ALL ELEMENTS.

>>16488022

Also set up your button for pick up. Using the mouse is a pain.

>>16488033

>>16488022

>>16488166

Oh and speaking of Elemental RR, get Wind Devils and its upgrade Raging Tempest for another -36% RR at 12/12.

You only need a single casual point in the Wind Devil skill itself.

It's also a way better pet than Primal Spirits if you're not playing a minion build since Wind Devils scale with player bonuses and Primal Spirit with pet bonuses.

Is there a good way to grind set items or it's all goddamn RNG? I've been looking online and so far nothing works.

>>16490668

I guess transmute is the only way to go eh. Thanks.

>>16490697

You need to grind FG content for the transmute ingredients, so effectively, grind more FG.

>>16491247

Skeletons are just fragile as fuck. They have a third or less health compared to other summons and shit armor/natural resists. Look out for gear with resists for pets like taskmaster, of caged souls, or of the wild. Ascendant cowl from human aetherial enemies in malmouth is good as well as some rover/solael/barrowholm vendor gear. Fiendflesh gear (especially boots) and lost souls are both good legendaries items to look for but that's really all up to luck unless you happen across lost souls recipe. Get Sylvarria essence from swamp witches for acid resist or Ateph's will from coven of three for bleeding.

I'd say shaman is better than occultist because mogdrogen aura gives phys damage for better conversion and resists and if you decide not to go vitality damage you can choose its exclusive instead of necro's. It also has better vitality resist shred. I don't know what your devotion build looks like but mogdrogen is a good devotion to aim at for pure damage while ishtak is better for your own survivability. Also, try to stack as much flat damage from your skills as possible. It gets added to all your individual skeletons hits so it adds up fast. Stuff like mogdrogen aura or bone harvest's second modifier is good. Putting a low cooldown attack devotion on your skeletons helps a lot too. Bat or fiend is common.

Kymon is probably the hardest campaign boss besides side stuff like mad queen or super bosses. Don't feel too bad about getting fucked up by him.

>>16493624

Ravager helmet is from the superboss, Ravager, you unlock at the end of the barrowholm questline. The helmet you get depends on who you decided to sacrifice before summoning him. You can fight him by pissing him off in dialogue. The nemesis, Reaper of the Lost, drops pants.

>>16494834

Post Grimtools. Your class can stomp 75 Shard but i think here is something wrong with build.

>>16494850

My bad, I actually meant The Sentinel, the 'secret' boss in Sanctum of the Witch Gods.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RVv6J7kV

Not my actual plan to make this into a minion build but instead aiming for an AAR one, felt like elemental focused minions might be the path of least resistance whilst lvling as Occultist doesn't boast great synergy with Arcanist until you get some lvl 94 gear and have access to all mastery points.

Build lacks armor augments (been lazy) but I'm overcapped against all the damage sources of The Sentinel.

Problem is that I can't facetank the boss and my minions constantly lose aggro the few times they manage to grab it. I think it might be related to his stun spam as he and all adds start to completely ignore my minions even when I'm standing around a corner doing nothing at all.

>>16491292

Reminder that fiend is absolute garbage once you max out skellingtons because at that point you only summon ranged units.

>>16494884

He's actually designed to fuck up pets a bit. One of his attacks inflicts mind control which would cause them to kill each other and could be the reason for the dropped agro. Curse of frailty also drags a lot of agro. He has an aoe damage reduction debuff too.

You desperately need to hit up some shrines, there's no reason to not have maxed devotion points by the time you hit ultimate. Even if you started in ultimate you should go back to normal or elite and get all the easy shrines. You have elemental storm and bysmiel's bonds even though their resist shreds don't stack.

>>16494903

Tried not using Curse, doesn't help. Probably mindcontrol combined with the stun being the isse. Used token to get to ultimate and usually never bother going back for shrines, only at Fort Ikon in the main campaign. Might do some crucible.

Bysmiel's Bond only has 20 seconds uptime with 40 seconds downtime, feels like its RR shred isn't the reason for getting it.

>>16494918

well if all else fails use an aether cluster and face tank him while your pets deal damage.

>>16479175

>not run by cucks

Didn't they censor the female armors though?

>>16494987

No?

>>16494987

Maybe you're thinking of the Divinity devs. GD does the money/development saving approach of only having 1 set of textures and meshes for all armor making them unisex, but fits them differently to the body models.

>>16495024

>>16495031

So there's still sexy stuff in this game like there was in Titan Quest?

A lot of the random nerfs to certain builds and abilities really got annoying. Now most builds have to be DoT only to really get through the higher ranks of shattered realms and even some super bosses.

>>16495119

This is why scaling damage up in higher shards as a difficulty modifier is retarded when you could be just reducing the massive amount of time you get from killing stuff or increasing monster health so you actually need that time.

>>16495086

>>16495074

Well technically anything you bind to Firestrike will be able to trigger from Brimstone as well.

Build looks okay (Static Strike deserves a casual point) but it's mostly about improving your gear at this stage. And maxing Brimstone.

>>16495133

Pet builds and retaliation builds are even hard to do now in campaign or in the crucible with the new changes. Apparently the reason given was because they were cheesy, but it still now makes all build variety just be DoT builds able to do the highest content levels. They even nerfed whole armor sets that gave you weapon proc skills and bonuses to certain default attacks. Casters got hit less hard.

>>16495086

Brimstone is a necessity. Having a point in static is useful if you have gear to support increasing it's rank. Searing light on flashbangs is important to have and very useful. You could probably get rid of some points in storm rounds and burst rounds for chilling rounds to get more weapon proc skills and because of diminishing damage increases. That many points in vigor might be a little excessive with some late game items giving ranks to you, and because of diminishing returns being a thing. Steel resolve would help a bit more.

>>16495038

I ended up respeccing to aether AAR, was getting bored with Occultist minion build anyway, so passive with pretty much only Curse and Doombolt to cast.

>>16495071

>sexy stuff in this game

Only if you are in bodyhorror, impregnation/corruption and Vore. Also Fleshworks is great.

>>16497587

Use AAR or PRM, not both. They can both be used as main spells so make your build around either of them, not both.

Fabric of Reality with its Energy Leech helps sustain a bit.

If you're doing an elemental build (or AAR with a good chunk of lightning/fire) get Vulnerability from Occultist.

Blood of Dreeg is good for OA and health sustain. Aspect of the Guardian has nice phys res (but might be spreading your points too thin getting it this early)

Max Maiven's Sphere, always. Mirror of Ereoctes could use a few more points to bring down the CD.

If you use AAR, max Disintegration.

Devestation is a good skill, max it if you're gonna use it.

Elemental Balance is decent for its crit damage, but prioritize other things for now. Get it when you can.

Harp is a decent option if you're starved for energy.

Get resistance reduction devotions such as Rhowan's Crown and Viper for elemental damage.

Solemn Watcher is good for defence and reflect damage reduction.

After spending points in the crossroad and have unlocked something that grants that same affinity, you can remove those crossroad points.

>>16497615

>>16497587

Also put Ectoplasm and Mark of Illusion on your rings, medal and amulet. They're very common and help with energy regen a lot. Speaking of, put components in your other gear too.

>>16497615

I forgot but Arcane Will is another good source of energy regeneration but also grants decent DA and some damage on top of it all.

>>16497605

Also been thinking about focusing on Sigil of Consumption as a secondary spell rather than Devastation. 6 seconds duration with 3 sec CD and all the other boosts to it should grant retarded amount of lifesteal which can save me during disables when unable to cast AAR and leech with that.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNkK63vN

Sort of want more Arcane Will but can't find a decent way of affording it. Mainly because low DA values. Need to find ways to improve DA, biggest weakpoint of the build as far as I can tell.

>>16491292

The correct way to use skeletons is to stack as much damage as possible and resummon them on cd. The goal is to kill things before they get to deal damage, it's all or nothing. Getting % increases to health and resistances is worthless because they have very low health to begin with. It might have been viable if there were flat HP bonuses to pets to mirror the flat damage bonuses.

>>16497605

>I theorycrafted an AAR Warlock and am working on it myself right now. Just hit lvl 94 but missing the amulet and some parts of the set (but going to craft helmet and transmute).

I have this belf with Chaos+Vit/fire damage. I can trade it but only not for a HC character.

>>16497922

Old pre-AoM amulet.

>>16497929

Not Rip - just use Mark Of Divine or Bear Sigil.

>>16497895

I'm no longer sure if it's my best option for fire conversion, the Bloodsworn Vestment is pretty good too (besides, not on HC anyway).

Trying to figure out the best approach for this build is doing my head in, would happily welcome feedback from anyone.

Managed to increase my DA to ~2700 but had to sacrifice Revenant (25 flat RR) in order to get the Obelisk points.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVblnMmN

I could also switch out one Voidheart for an Eternal Band to get 10 flat and 10% RR but that means I have to use Storm Shepherd for its +3 Disintegration. But AAR only converts ~85% fire damage this way.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/eZPgOBlV

Could alternatively use a +1 arcanist relic with +1 disintegration and a +1 arcanist belt for a similar (though arguably better) result.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRoOg9N

Another option is to use either the rare belt or Sash of the Bloodlord for fire > vitality/chaos and the Clairvoyant's Robe for +2 Disintegration and any +all or +1 arcanist relic. Rare belt would be ideal if I could manage to find one with stun res and preferably some OA and DA.

A downside would be that Sigil of Consumption would be affected by the 25% chaos > aether conversion from Clairwoyant's.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2mP6joN

Honestly I feel like the first linked build might win out even though I lose a good chunk of RR. Will see if I can get decent DA without sacrificing either Revenant or Scales for Obelisk but they're by far the most cost inefficient ones.

I can also find some better rare boots for minmaxing my defence but that's more of a bonus.

>>16499218

Oh and I realized I could move 2 points from cunning into physique (for both versions) but didn't update builds.

>>16499471

<https://www.grimtools.com/calc/JVlP6BxV

>23/26 AAR

>Overcapped Disintegration and Possession

>Unoptimized Inner Focus (put it at 10 or 12)

>Only converts 55% fire damage

>No Curse of Frailty/Vulnerability for vitality shred

>Questionable investment of 24 points in Solael's Witchfire & Second Rite just to get ~100% chaos & vit damage and 27% vit res

>No Solael's Witchblade Devotion

>No flat RR

>Somewhat inefficient spending of affinity points (more than you need in some, put in worthless crossroads etc.)

>Albrecht Duality ring and Clairvoyant's Robe converts 75% of your sigil damage into Aether which you have very little support for

>1900 DA (holy fuck)

>78% armor absorption

>Not overcapped aether resistance (fire, lightning & aether are most important)

Sorry for shitting on your build, just want to help you improve it.

>>16499536

I forgot

>Points in spirit and cunning instead of all into physique

>new hotfix adds better models

>people already complaining about FPS issues

>GI probably broken again

>>16499577

As awesome as Crate is for delivering quality expansions and maintaining support this long, I really wish they would just stop fucking with the game unless there was legitimately something broken.

>>16499601

Additions to the game are fine and balance changes can make the game more interesting, but they're often way too heavy handed with their nerfs and they need to spend more time buffing weak shit instead.

Been working on an alternative AAR chaos/vit build using Inquisitor instead of Occultist.

Managed to reach -120% Chaos RR (+ 25 flat), 3150 OA (without Deadly Aim or other temporary stuff) 3050 DA, ~16k HP, 43% phys res (standing in circle but it has 100% uptime) and 105% crit damage (Deadly Aim and Hungering Void proc, but they have 100% potential uptime).

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRo5LBN

Still have some tweaking to do I imagine but happy for now.

GD dev stream is live, showing new stuff they're adding in the upcoming content patch.

>>16501991

>>16501939

>>16502016

They're adding (and showed) 5 new sets in the next content patch. Here's the VoD:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/429247935

Its free weekend and I played this shit for like an hour or so. It seems like a fun dungeon-crawler, and I'm like level 12. I'm a loot whore when it comes to games (I'll hit every barrel and search every area type of shit) I like it so far but should I buy it? If I get at least a dollar an hour on a game I don't mind the investment, though obviously I want to get max dollars/hour ratio I can.

>>16504134

I like playing about 3 different builds for games like this, if you consider melee, ranged, mage as totally different builds. I saw there's what, 6 different classes?

>>16504188

There are around 36 possible combinations iirc.

How does Olexra's Flash Freeze work against enemies immune to the freezing effect when it comes to applying the fire RR?

Favorite skills? I'm pretty fond of walking into a group of enemies, using judgment, and watching everything go flying around. Seeing everything get fried and explode with a well placed primal strike is pretty entertaining too.

>>16504121

You aren't even remotely far enough into the game to be doing the crazy shit yet. There's a lot of depth in turning your character into a screen-clearing death machine (unless you go oathkeeper and spin2win). I have the game and all DLC (not the loyalty pack shit though), paid for it, and don't regret it. It wasn't a blind purchase though, I pirated just after AoM and cleared the main story before dropping any cash.

>>16507864

Deadly aim doesn't start cooling down until it ends.

>>16507967

That's not true and very easy to test on dummies. The moment it runs out it gets refreshed.

Maybe they changed it or you're remembering wrong.

>>16508053

Are you looking for more of a durable, dual wielding melee character or specifically a spin2win D3 Barbarian?

>>16508078

not spin2win but big dick dps through sheer attack speed and can survive most of the things thrown at him

>>16508094

nightblade with life steal?

>>16508094

Okay so as you may know that you combine two different masteries to make a 'class'.

Nightblade is the only mastery that offers inherent melee dual wielding support and lets you dual wield without relying on gear to enable the option (though that gear tends to be somewhat easy to find, it'll be tougher for a new player).

Soldier is just generally pretty strong and tanky and works well with most builds, especially melee or physical oriented ones.

Shaman is another option with good survivability but with more of an elemental damage focus.

So I guess my suggestion is Nightblade + either Soldier or Shaman.

Nightblade is largely focused on poison, cold and pierce damage but it also has some decent defensive options and passives for dual wielding. Best bet I believe is to use it more as a supporting mastery to something like Soldier or Shaman.

Personally don't have a great amount of experience with Nightblade so maybe someone else can suggest a more concrete build, unless you don't mind going in somewhat blind and experimenting yourself.

The only permanent choices are masteries, everything else can be respecced at some point or another so it's fine to not follow a guide.

>>16507988

What you're seeing an icon to show you how long until it refreshes

>>16508157

Well that's an annoying inconsistency considering the fact that no other passive skill (to my knowledge) behave that way or show a CD when recovering. Not to mention the tooltip saying nothing about such a mechanic.

>Install game

>Launch

>Game won't launch

It was better than most modern games. The price was good and it didn't overstay its welcome. I give it a 6/10 mostly because it lacks length and replayability.

>>16509900

>lacks length and replayability.

You must be posting in the wrong thread.

>>16509900

Did you pirate the steam version or the gog one?

>>16509816

>CDR Shadow Strike build

Sounds fun, haven't played a build like that yet but now I want to.

How does aether reaper work? Feels like it might not be ideal since cold > aether conversion doesn't convert frostburn which is a large part of Nightfall.

And how do you convert stuff on your Soulrend build? You ideally want poison, vitality and pierce to turn into cold, no?

Going to see if I can put together one using Nightshade's Reach as a poison/acid build but will see if there's enough gear to enable it in a bit.

>>16511104

>Nightmare scenario

You just made me upload a zip of my saves to a cloud storage.

>>16511104

>it just hovers at 'repairing disk' for hours

It might take days if hdd is fucked.If it takes 0% progress in a day its fucked. You probably new new hdd and it will be fine.

>>16511123

Fiddled around in grimtools for a bit and came out with this.

Looks decent for a first draft, could maybe work. Anyone tried out an acid & poison Shadow Strike build? What's your experience with it and does my version look okay?

Note: Haven't bothered to put on augments yet so missing a good chunk health, DA and OA potential.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/vNQYa4XN

what's a good class for a beginner? this game is overwhelming as is

>>16511353

Depends on how you want to play. Soldier is a good secondary at least for many characters since it has good passives to help with survival and damage. It's good as a main class too if you're wanting a melee focus. You'll want to be more specific in what type of play interests you to get better recommendations though.

>>16511381

Probably the worst advice that could be. Channeled abilities will get you killed because you don't know how enemies work and you won't learn how they work because you're just standing there channeling it.

A better beginner build would be Panetti's, shockwave with modifier, ranged auto-attack build (i.e. demolitionist, inquisitor, shaman with modified primal strike).

>>16511353

Occultist, pump stats into Dreeg's Eye, Solael's Witchfire and the AoE sigil.

>>16511353

Or arcanist with That meteor attack. Basically the easiest gameplay is some aoe attack with CD maxed out. Kiting is easy (too easy imo) and skills with cd usually deal a lot of damage. It should work for 50 or so levels. Later you can augment it with passives/auras or add more skills with CD.

I said it before, I will say it again, dont pick 2nd class before lvl 30, max out skills instead of putting a single point here and there.

>>16511353

occultist with eye of dreeg + focused gaze transmuter is extremely easy to play, just kite and throw it every now and then. Occultist/necro/shaman builds focused on pets are pretty easy to.

>>16511407

worked for my friend just fine, so I guess you're full of shit

>>16511494

My grandma said it doesn't work.

>>16511577

A few weeks or nearly a month ago everything on the forum posted the last ~18 days got rolled back.

This finally prompted the retards to stop using http despite many users previously raising concerns about not using a secure encryption.

>>16511592

I nearly forgot about doing that. I am so forgetful, I assume it was another anon.

Jog my memory. It is very fleeting, after all.

>>16510183

You must be mentally retarded.

>>16504188

>6 different classes?

There are 9 masteries that combine into 36 unique classes.

>>16505113

The freeze effect and RR are applied independently of each other, so the RR is always applied even if the freeze effect isn't.

>>16510183

Beat the game.

Enjoys melee tanks.

Played 120+ hours.

Burned out due to the sword sponge nature of the mooks.

Got my money's worth. But Crate still hasn't captured the magic of D2.

>>16511693

The fuck are you posting this from, a pocket pc?

Did Trozan's Sky Shard ever become viable after the Iskandra rework? The set looks pretty sick.

Do the expansions add features to the main game in a way the vanilla campaign will be enhanced compared to just having the main game?

I have the pirate copy of the whole game + expansions already but I might actually end up buying the main game just to get updates in an easier way but I don't think I wanna spend all that money for the whole pack at this time.

>>16511839

The main features you'd miss out on in the main campaign would be the 3 masteries Necromancer, Inquisitor (AoM) and Oathkeepr (FG).

Medal movement augments and the difficulty skip tokens for new characters were added in FG. Each expansion also grants you a new stash tab (but you can just use Grim Stash anyway).

They updated GD before the expansion with new QoL additions like loot filter and balance changes so that is not dependant on owning the expansions.

Expansions are on sale right now but I imagine they'll go on sale again during the summer sale.

>>16511874

Okay thanks, I guess I'll decide tomorrow if I'm gonna get a 10 bux cash card from the gas station and buy the game or not and just play the free weekend version some more.

One other thing I forgot: the game hung up on me once after a few hours of playing and I am not sure to which state my character got reset to. How does the saving in this game work exactly?

>>16511944

>I think its available in base game without expansions.

Maybe, I'm not sure. Either way I recommend Grim Stash.

>Game is DRM free so you can download latest patch 1.1.2.5 from GoG version

The anon said he already had the pirated version but was considering buying it for the sake of convenience with patches and updates (and in my opinion they're good enough devs that you can throw some money at them, if you want to).

>>16511962

The game automatically saves pretty much the entire time, don't think I've ever lost items due to crashes.

One issue would be steam sync but you can choose in the settings if you want to save locally (recommended).

>>16511962

Also if you don't have money to spend on vidya right now but want to buy the game eventually, keep playing your pirated version and then at a later point simply transfer your saves. Like I said they're stored locally (default: documents/my games/grim dawn) and easily accessible.

>>16511969

>amount of Steam players is at an all-time peak right now

>61K

>amount of players was steadily climbing since launch

Blizzard on suicide watch.

>>16511969

I wonder how many players will stay after the free weekend is over.

>>16512081

not me, the expansion is more than the base game and has necronigger. shame because it's titan quest with guns

>>16513012

>the expansion is more than the base game and has necronigger

Is that supposed to be a downside or what? Base game was more than worth the price back when there were no expansions.

>>16513027

i'm not about to BUY an expansion bro

>>16513036

I'm not telling to buy an expansion, or anything at all. I'm questioning your logic in your previous post. I've pirated it when it had no expansions and enjoyed it, what does a size of an expansion have to do with anything?

>>16513085

>Soulrend SB

Youcould just use Trozan hat and change pants on Green Reaper ones with resist.

>>16513146

I specifically swapped out nemesis legs into chausses for the phys res+armor bonuses and the OA it provided. Physical hits is what it struggled with the most in deeper shards and the +1 all on clairvoyant hat is too good to pass up. I used to have it way more glassy but this is what I ended up with after a bunch of testing in the harder content where the lack of damage was never an issue but surviving was. Again, both builds are a bit dated since I haven't played non-HC in a few patches

>>16513228

You're feeling like a soundless cuckchanner?

>>16513043

more money not mbs nigsley

>>16513266

Well, maybe you shouldn't talk like an actual nigger, to avoid having to clarify gibberish like:

>the expansion is more than the base game

What's a fun build for a caster? I tried arcanist and it was kind of meh on it's own.

>>16513509

Inquisitor is fun, also works as a combo with Arcanist as it has decent defence and access to both elemental and aether resistance reduction.

My favourite Arcanist spell is Albrecht's Aether Ray, a popular combo with that is Necromancer and focusing on its aether damage. Inquisitor works for AAR builds too but it also has a bunch of other spells you could build around.

>>16513012

>the expansion is more than the base game

Your complaint is that the expansions are more expensive than the base game?

It's a logical move on the part of the devs.

>Give the base game a larger discount

>More people will buy it

>More people buying the base game will lead to more people buying the expansions

Also the base game is quite old, it's only the high tier AAA kikes that don't incrementally reduce the price of their older releases. It's a good thing to reduce the cost of entry.

But at the same time the devs can't realistically price their newly released expansion relative to the the base game which by now has gone down in price a fair amount since launch.

I'm not telling you to go buy it, I'd rather have people pirate it (than not play it at all) and actively participate in these threads so I have more people to talk with about the game.

But you should support indie devs which aren't infested with kikery or current year bullshit, if they make games you enjoy

>>16513207

I hate to say it but towards the endgame you'll probably have to drop the pets since you need to focus on either player damage or pet damage.

Pet builds almost exclusively need to be paired with 2 masteries which have pets (occultist, necromancer and shaman).

For Witchblade you could go for a strong chaos melee character (can convert Cadence into chaos) or maybe some sort of retaliation build with Dreeg's Evil Eye, just to give a few examples. You can do a fair bit of things with a Witchblade, sadly pets aren't really one of them (but feel free to level with it until you start to struggle much later in the game).

If you really want to play a pet build with meaty 2H weapon, shaman + occultist or shaman + necromancer is the obvious choice since shaman offers default attack replacer, 2H passives and pet skills.

You can use Grim Stash (linked in OP) to edit characters in ways such as removing a chosen mastery, allowing you to once in the game pick a new one.

Don't use steam cloud saving with Grim Stash

>>16513653

>larger file size than the base game (probably not even factual)

The two expansions do have a larger file size than the base game and probably as much content.

>muh fuggin bix nood

>you knew it didn't make any sense

Uh-uh.

>>16514405

Looks very righteous anon, I approve.

>>16514921

One of the largest problems I found with Shadow Strike while trying to put my own build together (also tried cold focus) is how little gear supports it.

>>16515414

Forgot link to second build like a retard.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2mPwd5N

>>16515796

>>16515582

Did some further tweaking, I like this devotion setup more. Also moved skills around a bit to softcap mirror.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NX4AYkN

Changed components from 2x Seal of Might to Enchanted Flint and Seal of Blades. Not sure if it's worth giving up on the physical resistance for life steal and solid fire damage.

Changed medal to max Callidor's Tempest, feels like a good choice.

Sadly put Volcanic strike down to 19/12. I'd much rather let Tectonic Stride go down to 18/12 and keep Volcanic Stride 22/12 but those boots are just so good it's hard to grab ones with Volcanic Stride (could get it to 21/12).

>>16515848

Also would want last node in Ulzuin's Torch (and maybe a casual in Empty Throne for stun res) but the easiest way to achieve that is replacing Ghoul with Jackal. Not a horrible trade but I'm not sure.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/L2JakGkN

>free weekend ends

>game popularity in piracy websites increases

Wew

>>16517624

Did you really think you'd get a free -100% RR? There's actually a neat set that is designed around making it able to freeze bosses though so you can pop them with a huge fire hit. Look at the mageslayer set.

>>16517637

>Did you really think you'd get a free -100% RR?

You can't blame a man for having dreams.

>Mage Slayer

Didn't know that set had those properties, how does the set let you do that? Is it a hidden modifier?

>>16517654

>Are all equip lightning % increases worthless now

Yes. Now it scales with chaos, there's no double dipping. You also can't convert something that has already been converted (like converting that chaos damage to say, fire).

More in depth explanation of conversion:

https://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52486

>>16517683

>>16517654

Oh another thing (which is also covered in the thread) is that if your skill deals lightning damage and it has upgrades with +x% lightning damage, that lightning damage is applied first, then it's converted to whatever other damage source.

>>16517730

>The system is a bit clunky at the mid, but it seems like it's much better choice end game.

Yeah that's not entirely wrong.

What the conversion system lets you do is combine a larger variety of masteries together and also make odd synergistic gear choices.

I'd say the reason for it not being as good early-mid game is because you'll mostly focus on a single mastery due to skill point limitation and the other skills tend to synergize with the main damage types of the mastery.

>>16517752

Ya, I'm looking forward to the gear chase once it's a bit more viable to branch out and experiment. Mid 40's, single mastery, and my only complaint is that it's a bit linear from a character perspective. Which might be by design to shift focus to lore and environ.

>>16517683

It's in the set bonuses. It makes flash freeze reduce their freeze duration reduction by -55% and most bosses have 120% resistance.

>>16517691

>Oh another thing (which is also covered in the thread) is that if your skill deals lightning damage and it has upgrades with +x% lightning damage, that lightning damage is applied first, then it's converted to whatever other damage source.

This is completely wrong. The +x% is just wasted if you convert the damage. Otherwise any build that didn't use converted skills that double dip like that would be garbage compared to ones that did.

>>16517935

You're confused.

>>16517935

Maybe you misunderstood me, I'm talking about skill modifiers.

>'Skill X'

<Deal 100 fire damage

>Skill X Upgrade Modifier

<+100% fire damage

Result= 200 fire damage

>Apply 100% chaos damage converted to fire

Result = 200 chaos damage.

This only applies to skill modifiers linked directly to the skill itself, not bonuses gained from gear or devotions.

>The order of events for Conversion is as follows: Base Skill > Skill Modifiers > Conversion on the Skill or Transmuter > Conversion on Equipment and Buffs > Equipment, Auras and Passives

As you can see skill modifiers are applied before any conversion. Converting a physical skill like Vire's Might to fire damage? That Physical Trauma damage % on Tectonic Shift acts as Burn Damage %.

>>16517935

Oh and regarding OFF, I interpreted

>-55% Reduced Freeze Duration to Olexra's Flash Freeze

As in it reduces the amount of time enemies remain frozen. The game calls the stat which reduces freeze time as "Freeze Resist", I could be wrong but I'm not entirely convinced you're right.

>>16517988

>Apply 100% chaos damage converted to fire

Woops, obviously meant other way around.

>>16517988

Yeah I was thinking it was implying that afterwards if you had, in your example, +100% chaos damage from gear, you'd end up with 400 damage.

>>16518005

Look at frozen heart, it uses "Reduced Freeze Duration" wording as well. Basically its saying 55% less Reduced Freeze Duration to the enemies hit by flash freeze. Night's Embrace debuff aura does the same thing.

>>16518063

>Look at frozen heart, it uses "Reduced Freeze Duration" wording as well. Basically its saying 55% less Reduced Freeze Duration to the enemies hit by flash freeze. Night's Embrace debuff aura does the same thing.

Huh, yeah you're right it probably does work like that then. I have to make a build around that. Was playing around with the idea of a Flames of Ignaffar Mage Hunter using that set. I know FoI isn't an amazing skill but could work.

>>16519116

I think FG gets a bit too tedious at the end with all the big groups of beefy enemies like Rageflames every 5 feet. Around Korvan City is when I start to really notice it.

>>16519185

Nearly every faction has those big guy types, worst one would be the aetherial titans. When farming campaign if the aoe doesn't kill them I just outright skip the mobs and move along to save time

How does % increased duration to X DoT work? Does the DoT effect keep its original DPS but is extended over a longer time?

>>16521658

Holy fuck, what are Crate even doing?

>>16519542

Dude what

>>16523103

Personally I'd just get GD+expansions. TQ is good but I've heard some pretty mixed shit about the expansions for it.

>>16523103

The base game is enjoyable on its own, but the expansions are both great and add a lot so I don't see a reason not to get them if you can afford it. I don't know about the latest TQ expansion, but I have Ragnarok and thought it was alright. If you like TQ already then it's kinda more of the same, so it would depend on that I'd say.

>>16523113

>TQ is good but I've heard some pretty mixed shit about the expansions for it.

I liked the class that the norse expac added but the campaign was worse. Heard bad things about the new one but haven't played it.

>>16523103

I hope you didn't upgrade with Grim Dawn in mind, because any toaster can run it in DX9 mode.

>>16523756

Why did you choose wildcrusher which is a vitality vines spam set instead of a bleed set like bloodrager with guillotine? This build also looks very squishy for a build that intends to melee.

>>16524200

Grasping Vines has a 1.2 second CD, you'd have to get over 50% CDR to even get close to spamming it.

Since DoT effects only stack if applied from different sources my thinking was that throwing up a long duration bleed DoT like Vines (400 per second for 6 seconds is pretty insane compared to other spells) as a filler skill would greatly benefit my dps.

By then adding in Savage and all the various bleeding procs I just get a ridiculous amount of bleeding sources all ticking at once.

Also if I were to choose a different secondary class like Soldier for Blade Arc I'd lose that massive -50% Bleed RR and Occultist is a really solid mastery for low investment with Blood of Dreeg and Vulnerability.

Was looking at the Bloodrager set and its extra crit damage is nice but I'd lose a good chunk of HP and OA and severely nerf 2 sources of bleed damage, Vines and Feral Hunger.

But I ended up trying the full Bloodrager set and moving things around a bit, I'm inclined to believe the crit damage (since it also lets me use Guillotine for another 20%) alone makes up for the big reduction in damage to grasping vines and Feral Hunger.

I put together two versions:

>Bloodrager Warder

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/pZrPdm32

<More armor, health, DA, Blade Arc, freeze & stun resistance and has access to Warcry to reduce enemy damage

Bleed damage to Warcry medal looked fun but couldn't afford the OA loss it'd mean. I could also increase the builds OA with nearly 100 by using the Direwolf Crest putting it at 2919, but that removes a lot of damage from Blade Arc.

>Bloodrager Conjurer

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2Bz8bD2

<-50 Bleeding RR, 12% physical resistance, -180 OA shred, more OA

Struggled with choosing rings on both builds, the Conjurer would probably benefit from something which gives a bit more HP but it'd mean losing OA.

>>16524891

> the Conjurer would probably benefit from something which gives a bit more HP but it'd mean losing OA.

You can try use a Gladiator Belt(Vit in to Phys) or Ugdenbog one to turn Acid in to Phys.

>>16524950

Bat is probably one of my worst devotions so I scrapped it, managed to squeeze in Kraken which is pretty huge.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NX4wa3N

>>16524950

Warder is one of those class combos where you don't have to get every bleed-related thing to output insane damage, especially since you can kite around with your big HP pool while those 9-second bleed hits do their work. I'd suggest dropping Primal Bond for Oleron's Rage to solve your OA issues. You'll be hitting for 500k a second instead of 550k, but it's going to be an academic difference in the end. Something like this would be a good all-purple setup:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2Bzr1r2

There's also a great physical Warder that you can basically play with just your mouse. If you don't like active skills, this one is almost all passives barring devouring swarm and war cry. It also shares a lot of gear with the builds suggested above.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jln3vZ

>>16528208

That map thing happens on windows too, and it happened in Titan Quest too, so I think it's a game engine thing or some shit. It seems to be harmless, at least I've never had any negative effects from it.

>>16528208

Does it happen a lot? Map occasionally gets some visual bugs but not in a way that you can't uncover stuff.

Yeah at lower lvls pets will be decent meatshields even without much investment but due to enemies becoming ever stronger and your pets not (unless you start equipping gear with pet bonuses) they'll eventually start dying very fast.

And yeah following builds is nowhere near as fun as making your own, but the learning curve can be somewhat steep at first due to complicated mechanics.

If I were to give some general advice about important mechanics I was unaware of as a newer player it would be:

>Deductive debuffs stack with other sources of the same

<-100 DA + -100 DA = -200 DA.

<-100 DA + 100 reduced DA = -200 DA.

<100 reduced DA + 120 reduced DA = 120 reduced DA (highest one takes priority)

Same goes for resistance reduction. -x% stack, X reduced and x% reduced do not.

>Only skills which use a % of your weapon damage can lifesteal

>Defensive and Offensive ability are vital to your survival and damage output

>Armor absorption % is a thing, get it as close to 100% as possible

>Devotions can pay for themselves (if you put a green affinity in the crossroad, unlock something that gives green affinity, you can now remove the crossroads point)

>Weapon aura buffs stack

>It's better to salvage duplicates of blue gear than to sell it

>Damage conversion in general https://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52486

Could someone recommend me a dual pistol build for dispensing justice? Preferably with mobility skills since I like to cruise around. Have been thinking about a sentinel chaosbuild.

>>16528436

>sentinel chaosbuild

Just no.

Oathkeeper has no chaos synergy in the mastery tree at all and Occultist has no chaos resistance reduction. If you want to play a Sentinel with guns you can absolutely do that, but go for acid & poison.

If you want to go specifically for a chaos gunner, both Demolitionist and Inquisitor have chaos resistance reduction and skills that support guns.

If you want more mobility, going for more of a fire gunner build with Inquisitor and Oathkeeper is solid.

>>16528071

Falcon is essentially 150 bleed/sec for five devotion points. The damage from each projectile doesn't stack, and the weapon damage component gets overwritten by savagery hits. You're also missing out on 25% racial damage to humans from the guthook belt, which is gigantic value if you're ever playing SR or crucible, where two of the worst Nemeses are human typed. Also, 3.2k DA is overkill, 3k is fine for 99% of content.

>>16529059

Which boss do you mean besides Aleksander that is a tough human? It's mostly him and Grava'thul that I consider pure cancer.

Also you say 450 over 3 seconds as if it isn't significant, 16/10 Upheaval does 441 over 3, 26/16 Savagery does 333 over 3.

As for DA, I want to push SR 75+ and to be able to kill some super bosses (though obviously I'd have to adjust resistances and shit for that).

>>16529128

Iron Maiden is a big one, so are Anasteria, Father Kymon, Dravis, and a lot of the new FG bosses. Racial damage to humans is probably the most valuable type in the game right now. Also, Savagery does 333 bleed with 180% weapon damage, which is also multiplicative with the hits from Feral Hunger, so it's noticeably more in practice.

>>16529194

So if 2 skills that use weapon damage % both apply extra bleed based on my right click, will that weapon damage bleed count as individual sources or will the higher oner override the other? I assumed the latter.

>>16529213

The highest weapon damage overrides all the other weapon damage sources, but the bleed damage inherent to the skill keep going. In your case, the highest WD is a savagery/feral hunger hit at 378%.

>>16529221

Yeah okay that's how I assumed it was. I guess I just don't see how a completely new source of 150 bleed/s wouldn't be noticeable, also because I'm playing a melee build the weapon % bleed will help with aoe and ranged cleave for enemies outside of my melee range.

Lastly, what would you replace it with?

>>16529233

I'd swap it for quill and a crossroads points of your choice. 8% aether and 2%DA are great stats for a T1 constellation, and it'll give you some freedom in moving around augments. Also, overcap your acid resist. Kaisan is a motherfucker and you're going to struggle the first time you fight him with 70% acid res.

>>16529257

Oh that 70% acid is just an accidental leftover from switching to Guthook belt and forgetting to adjust augments.

>Overcap

Do I really need more than softcap? I've seen people say that most resistances are fine at softcap except for fire, lightning and aether (not counting super bosses).

Quill does seems like a good option and another 5% health is just what I need. Even though I'm not convinced Bat is bad, I like this setup better.

I'm also curious about how useful Grasping Vines is, thought I'd use it as an AS debuff but I could instead overcap Brute Force and Heart of the Wild. Sitting at a comfy 15.2k HP now.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRod60N

>Forums down

>Again

How are forums still a thing anyway

>>16530879

>How are forums still a thing anyway

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, they could have an official reddit or something instead.

>>16531275

They have 2 'cutscenes' in the entire game, it's not exactly their main way of storytelling.

>>16531295

Thanks for responding to my befuddled bottom, I thought it was a trailor, are the in-game cutscenes the same?

>>16531303

It's actually a short teaser of the cinematic that introduces the first expansion after beating the main game.

>>16530879

Drink bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you fucking failed abortion.

>>16530186

Not that I think the game is bad without them but I would have really like some more short animated vignettes strewn through the game.

It wouldn't have to be like this one video with the stretched out length and overusage of tweening. Just a short character still with some animated effects and narration would have been alright. Because just going back to the hub to drop of some potential useful loot into the shared stash after killing a boss feels a bit empty.

>>16535240

You can't see it on the second tab?

>>16535240

Press on second or third tab right above your Stats.

>>16538639

>>16535240

>>16535336

Am I the only one that thinks it was just a fashion joke? Not to mention nothing converts anything to bleeding.

>>16538656

It was a fashion joke

>>16540681

It is a good game. I am shit at it, though.

>>16540897

Go fucking warder.

>>16540897

Cadence is sort of bad for lvling and doesn't become a solid until lvl 50+ so people tend to suggest lvling with transmuted forcewave.

Also like anon above said, pairing Soldier with a mastery that adds sustain like Shaman is a good choice, if you want to use shields rather than two-handed weapons Oathkeeper is a better option.

>>16546962

whats the joke?

>>16546983

I don't know, probably some forum in-joke.

>>16546989

Maybe the joke is that they are so fucking comfy that they are superior to anything else so they gain stats beyond conventional armor.

Is it possible to make a build for jumping around the battlefield while throwing DoTs on everyone's eyes?

And what is the worst class combo?

>>16547507

I was theorycrafting some Vire's Might builds earlier in the thread which are somewhat burn based movement skill builds.

Haven't tested either one of them yet and I'm sure there are improvements that can be made, don't know if devotions are a bit too defence focused for example. Could get more burn devotions.

>Sentinel version

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAz1DRZ

<More damage from Judgement

<More physical resistance

<More -RR

>Templar version

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YZewLBv2

<More crit damage

<Callidor's Tempest

<Mirror for burst mitigation

<More damage absorption

>>16540681

Is this game good enough to buy? I bought Chaosbane full price and already regret it.

But maybe oathkeeper is better than soldier for this https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YNnWpnb2

>>16550874

>>16551038

You're not going to get very far without more experience playing the game.

I do think Oathkeeper is better for that combo.

I'd maybe do something like this

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gl6JvV

Not an ideal build or anything, hard to plan out without gear etc.

Some skills you'll want to overcap, like your damaging skills or permanent buffs such as Divine Mandate and those that grant offensive and defensive ability. Blast Shield is great but I'd usually recommend keeping it softcapped even with bonuses.

Generally speaking two-hand builds aren't as good as shield build.

Canister Bomb isn't very good without using gear to convert some of the damage types and focus them into something. It's split into physical, fire and pierce. Ideally turn it all into one damage type if you want to build around it. There's gear that can do such things.

>>16546962

>>16549366

Get raped twice and kill yourself, you retarded fucking tranny faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

>>16558405

The primary appeal of Seal of Blades is the ADctH, Pierce res and %armor increase.

The appeal of Bloody Whetstone depends on whether you like it's active skill or not.

>>16558414

I have 10% ADctH and playing Shaman so Feral Hunger and Wendigo Totem help out too, overcapped on pierce without augments but armor % is never bad.

The Bloody Whetstone looks pretty strong with its 50% crit damage and 300% weapon damage, even if I don't proc its bleed effect it will still apply a really nasty bleed effect from my flat bleed.

>>16558421

The thing is that it's a single attack on a 3.5 sec cooldown and as far as I know the 50% crit only refers to itself.

>>16558784

>The thing is that it's a single attack on a 3.5 sec cooldown and as far as I know the 50% crit only refers to itself.

Yes but my thinking is that 300% weapon damage with 50% crit would probably apply the highest bleed damage possible for my current build.

With 9 Savage charges (+20% from Bloodrager Crown) and getting a Feral Hunger proc I'd deal 345% weapon damage to a single target and 205% in an aoe.

With Bloody Whetstone I'd deal 300% weapon damage in an AoE with a whole 50% crit damage boost, I think this would override the above bleed and deal a good chunk more damage. Since this is a bleed focused build the 3.5 second CD also doesn't matter as much because my bleed duration % is over 200% so I'd always be able to use it for applying my basic attack bleed.

I am on my first run and am trying to do a trickster build for maximum bleed, went quite well until now but now spooky skeletons in old arkovia just ignore all my damage. Any idea what kind of build I can temporarily use to survive skelly city?

>>16559234

For the sake of minimizing respec cost and the general bother, maybe it can be optimized a bit so you'll be able to easier deal with undead foes?

Arkovian Undercity is especially annoying for bleed builds because not only do undead enemies have high resistance, there's also the Skeletal Knights which have an invisible reflect damage buff.

I need some help with my dumb fucking meme build.

>Goal: ~100% Blast Shield uptime

>Secondary goal: Find a way to deal damage

With the rare Fleshwarped Codex which adds 1 second to Blast Shield I need 40% CDR.

If I use a shield (ideal) I'll need 50% CDR.

With a shield I managed to get 42% CDR and with the book 39%

I'm forced into either Arcanist or Oathkeeper for their CDR exclusives, I could use the Arcanist's Eternity relic for a -1 sec CDR every ~4.5 seconds which means the shield build only need 40% CDR but it would also make it a possibility that I fail 100% uptime due to poor RNG.

Played around with the idea of using The Pummeler for 400% retal to Blast Shield and doesn't something with that but there isn't any good headgear with CDR and retal bonuses and I'm locked into using a non-retal amulet.

<Heavy WIP shield version

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/Q2zAkdRN

>>16563882

>infinite scrolling

This is some of the worst cancer in modern web design. Any website that uses it is instantly shit.

>>16559234

Cold DW, Veil and Wind Devils for RR, something to convert Shaman's big chunks of physical damage to cold. Alternatively, just level with Primal Strike like everyone else.

>>16564281

>Goal: ~100% Blast Shield uptime

You've already failed. Blast shield is one of those skills that doesn't cooldown until its duration ends.

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R.I.P in peace, shit dawn

Hey Niggers, I just soloed the ravager with subpar set on my Oppressor

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2glbRgV

Also i really fucking hate the new website, before it wasn't letting me connect now its fucking deleted almost all the compendiums. Whats even worse is for some reason all the words become blurry illegible when i put my mouse over them and nowi have to constantly scroll with my broken mouse wheel

>>16574878

>Squad Tactics scales very poorly past 12 points (12 and 14 both give 14% attack and cast speed)

>Put a point in the Markovian's Defense transmuter and you get permanent Overguard like my build has.

>Might as well softcap Warcry at 12.

>Maiven's Sphere is a great defensive skill and maybe worth more points

>Inner Focus grants precious OA, worth soft capping

>Blade Arc is your filler between Devestation, maybe low dps without further points in it?

>You really want Ravager's Eye augments on your shield and weapon for DA

>Put Survivor's Ingenuity on your rings and amulet

>Aether resistance is more important to overcap than acid & poison and pierce for SR and Crucible, aim for ~30% (change armor augments)

>Your armor absorption is 87%(!), always aim for ~100%

I applied many of my suggestions to your GT:

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNY4yrWZ

Didn't touch upon devotions, not completely sold on "Ulzaad, Herald of Korvaak" for a build which doesn't use retaliation. Lizard is kind of bad, I'd get Hound instead for more armor and physique.

>>16575456

By getting Revenant you free up a lot of skill points from skipping Break Morale letting you max Blade Arc, get more OA from Eagle and lets you max Shieldmaiden.

Using a shield recovery component on your shield might be better than Seal of Might.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2BzQXW2

>>16577189

>Not needed - i already have a Hourglass devotion what reset cooldown on Overguard.

Hourglass gives you -6 seconds CDR every ~13.5 seconds (you have 23% CDR).

This pushes Overguard to 11.5s CD (15 reduced by 23%) with 10s uptime.

>Cast overguard and immediately cast Hourglass

>Overguard expires, you wait 1.5s to reactivate it

>You wait another 2s for Hourglass CD before casting it

>Overguard expires, you wait 1.5s to reactivate it

>You wait another 4s for Hourglass CD before casting it

You see where I'm going with this? They'll become completely out of sync not to mention it never has true 100% uptime.

>Also i dont undestand why you remove all points from Brack Morale while its lower enemy Phys resist and why i should use a Revernant while its provide lower -% resists compare to Break Morale and Phys damage bonuses from Ulzad?

You lose 7 flat RR but gain 12 skill points, this lets you max both Blade Arc and Laceration (assuming you trim some other skills as well like in my link).

This damage increase is pretty massive considering its your main spam skill.

>Its provide huge lifesteal while Devastation on 4.5 cd after triggering Hourglass.

Yes you definitely need something to attack with between Devastation and Blade Arc is a good choice, I'm saying focus more points into it.

>Devastation deal pure Phys+trauma+pierce damage. Looks like improvement in from every side.

Well it only deals physical and the trauma damage only gets applied from the 22% weapon damage, which your Blade Arc overrides with the 178% weapon damage (dots applied by weapon damage % count as same source even if from different skills and stronger will override weaker).

Now it's not an entirely bad devotion but it's a hefty investment and you don't need the purple and green devotions for anything else either. Meaning you pay an extra 2 green and 4 purple for it.

>I no need right side of this devotion so i better squeeze points for flat armor/hp devotions.

Reduced shield recovery time is very rare (no other devotion point grants it and you can get a maximum of another 15-20% more from shield component) and has a massive impact on a build like this which gets a lot of its defence from blocking.

>Also notice Absolute Zero provides huge phys resist reduction… do you have ideas about build what involve Cold+phys damage on battlemage?

It's a really bad damaging skill, you'd want to use it as a debuff and focus on physical damage (so would work on your current build).

Now Flash Freeze needs to freeze enemies to apply its fire debuff meaning you need to use The Mageslayer 4-set for its freeze reduction to enemies (all bosses have over 100% freeze resistance), but I believe that Absolute Zero counts as a separate debuff and works regardless of if you manage to freeze enemies.

<Can anyone confirm/deny if Absolute Zero applies its debuff on freeze immune enemies?

>>16577944

>>16577189

If you still want to use Ulzaad (like I said, it's not bad or anything, just inconvenient affinity cost) I'd probably drop Squad Tactics to a casual point instead of removing Break Morale.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m23Jor1N

Had an itch to play a ARPG that wasn't modded D2 and since PoE is owned by bugmen now, thought I'd give this a go. I played Titan Quest a little bit like 15 years ago. Had mixed feelings about the class system in it (before I really knew what I was doing). This is basically a sequel to it, with lots of polish, yes?

>>16582551

>This is basically a sequel to it, with lots of polish, yes?

Pretty much, but a spiritual one as it has a completely different setting. I believe nearly everyone agrees that Grim Dawn is a better game than TQ.

>>16582558

Is this game going to kick my ass or be frustrating if I go in blind? I expect my first two or three characters to be grossly suboptimal and struggle through while I learn the mechanics and progression. Or should I leave a wiki/etc open on another screen?

>>16582561

If you're somewhat familiar with the genre you should be fine, you start on 'Normal' difficulty, when you beat it you unlock 'Elite' and after that 'Ultimate. Then there's 'Veteran' which is an alternative toggle that replaces 'Normal' as the first difficulty that increases the challenge by throwing larger packs of monsters at you with higher stats and increases rare and boss spawn.

Normal is very forgiving and it's not crazy to play on Veteran even on your first playthrough.

The game allows nearly full respec, the only thing you can not undo (without a third-party tool like GD Stash) is mastery (class) selection after having put points into them.

So I recommend going in blind and just experimenting, if you run into some problems you can always ask here for tips, ways to tweak your build or help with understanding mechanics. Maybe it's just me but I hate following builds and prefer some gentle guidance if stuck.

>>16574205

Thanks anon

I was joking about beating the ravager though, i just wanted some advice for my memebuild

Pardon my retardation but I can't seem to get it to work. I've downloaded the game and all 3 patches from the OP. When trying to install the v1.1.2.2 patch (the latest one?) it complains about an MD5 checksum error. I have installed the base game, followed by 1.1.1.1 and 1.1.1.2.

Also, the exe tries to launch Steam. Is the hacked exe in the CODEX folder of each patch folder?

>>16586560

Anyways, I've got it working on v1112 and I just reached Burial Hill and I'm enjoying myself.

>>16586560

1.1.1.1 -> 1.1.1.2 -> 1.1.2.0 -> 1.1.2.2

1.1.2.0 is here >>16479548

just patch the game to the latest patch, then copy the contents of the CODEX folder of that patch into the game directory

1.1.2.2 is the latest warez release at the moment

>>16585225

>no pants

come on man, there are children around

>>16586804

>>16586560

>>16479548

>Didn't read the fucking thread

I told you I was retarded. Anyways, downloading now.

I started as Arcanist and now I'm at level 10. Going to do a bunch of quests and stuff right now after it finishes downloading. I've been putting points into the split missile spell, but I think what might work better is to have a gun with +weapon damage effects on it for a nuke, then spam the tempest spell for groups. Thinking of getting the gunslinger or whatever the cunning class was to compliment this.

How do I unsocket items and respec, also?

>>16587264

Jynx.