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Vulkar Wraith worth anything ? Not sure if I should pass on sleep to farm dukats for it. But at least ignis is ok and target cracker.

>primed <x> ammo mutation

Come the fuck on DE, you have got to be shitting me.

>>16477995

>people were jewing ignis bp too hard so DE made it a baro item

wew

also why are fractures back again and again so quickly?

>>16478421

It has something to do with their most recent orb mother fight, so I would assume that they really want people to play it, rather than farm the first one for those archgun mods

>>16478108

> ignis is ok

Don't people still trade ignis bp's for free in region chat?

>>16478421

They said it would be every 2 weeks, I think fractures are Fortuna's ghoul purge.

>>16478914

On PC as far as I know yes, some people do "background check" or something to make sure you aren't just trolling or something.

>>16478421

>>16478468

It's back every 2 weeks into infinity.

Anyone wants some shilling?

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1093559-another-5200-kuva-down-the-drain/

>>16480134

Why would you post this here? Cause it just screams "I am the OP"

>>16480173

I always post stuff like that when there is a forum thread with shills very dedicated to their shilling.

>WTB high voltage

<price: your left ballsack

why is the price so high? that's gay, I just want a mod for fuck's sake. guess I'll have to wait until baro the faggot brings one. I hate grinding for prime fodder just to convert into duckets. fuck you, that's gay, did they really need to make another currency just for this one faggot? why couldn't he just take plat? anyway that's some bullshit you kn ow what I'm saying

>>16480371

Isn't it a Naeglar reward?

>>16480384

yeah I guess you can do the hive mission to get one, so maybe i'll give that a go, but fuck me if I have to spend 3 fucking hours for one mod god dammit. oh I'll do it, but I'm gonna bitch about it.

>>16480398

I can't say I do the mission a lot but you will also get Charged Shells which you can at least sell too and then get your High Voltage.

>>16480414

You can mute Nora, they had to patch that shortly after too many complaints (which I would assume someone would cry racism but never happened.)

>>16478421

people actually paid money for IW?

>>16480414

put it on creator mode. its like classic warframe.

>>16480589

1-5p usually, then good goys got mad and started offering them free and i guess DE intervened.

Is it just me or difficulty design and the general ways of making this game less rewarding and more punishing for using abilities smells of sadistic developers? is it just Scott or all of them?

>>16480134

>>16480194

Yeah host migration can be annoying, but the biggest problem I saw was

>Got past 20 minutes, critical life support levels, time to extract

As if getting past 20 minutes was some difficult achievement like getting a 1% drop that was lost to migration.

>>16481228

Not quite difficult but the team in that run was the usual survival bunch of hallway heroes.

Too much gameplay time is dedicated to traversing empty hallways.

I feel like the map sizes should be cut down by at least half.

Or give us diablo 2 teleport

>>16483091

You may or may not have a point, but that's the least of this game's problems. The grind is what gets you.

>>16483091

Speeding up missions is the last thing the game needs. If anything, the number of missions players play on average should be cut down and the time they spent within each mission increased, as well as the rewards to compensate for the time spent in those missions.

That's one of the fundamental differences between what veterans miss about the game from years ago. Everything felt more impactful and less like a treadmill, even if it was.

>>16483100

B-b-b-b-but grind is content! if you are so desperate just use plat!!

>>16484844

You can easily get all those things from Exploiter Orb assuming you have hoarded some diluted thermia canisters, otherwise you can just find a group, I think there is no other requirement to access the boss.

So, uh, new update came out today. I'm guessing it's another frame you have to break your back to grind out, some mediocre or outright overpowered weapons, three new currencies and a rep grind, right?

>>16497060

m-muh corpus/sentient hybrids

also some new guns I think

>>16496809

>not even a ticker app available

>current warframe app still useless

>de using ancient email system to get code

Sweet fucking god everything in this update is bad. It's either boring, broken, or both. DE needs to crash and burn at this point.

>>16497180

Disruption is definitely a meme gamemode. People will never play it after the event is over.

>Best relic reward is neo, as if anyone needed more of these

>Drop table filled with "niche" bad mods

>Enemies don't offer much fun or interesting mechanics. Sentient-corpus hybrids should do more than look different. Melee nullifier was cool though

>Supposed to have a "miniboss feel", demolysts just charge straight at the conduit

>Amalgams are barely a threat

>Event should just be running Ganymede. There's no reason to have each tier split into multiple missionsI'm mostly just annoyed at wasting my time thinking it was Ganymede, then thinking I could just run the event node for 3 rotations and get the three listed rewards.

>Some demolysts seem to be significantly more tanky than others. If they aren't going to fight, what is the point in having them with different stats?

>So long as the demolyst is killed, the conduit succeeds. The ideal strategy is to spend as little time defending the conduit as possible, instead having the team run and kill the demolyst

>On that note, the timer seems entirely pointless. The demolyst always approaches the conduit, and it never takes 2 minutes, so what is the timer for? No one will ever find out

Also, demolyst seems to not take damage from EV, maybe they are damage immune? Would be an interesting mechanic to improve arbitration drones with. DE doesn't know how to fix gameplay, so I doubt it'll happen

Overall this event is a solid 4/10.

>>16496809

atleast you get a stupid vfx for enabling it.

So the new update is shittier than usual somehow?

Is it even worth logging on? I don't even feel like it, I'm fucking burned out on this game again

>>16498220

mastery fodder the update. if you wait long enough those 2 vandals will just show up from baro.

>>16498220

Wisp is busted but will probably be nerfed. Requires a new resource to build, which is basically oxium but exclusive to jupiter.

New game mode is just a convoluted Mobile Defense.

New boss fight can be rushed but is prone to bugs.

New sentient guns are clantech, and one requires the other to be researched

Nyx Skin looks pretty good, shotgun skin works well.

just got back into warframe after a loooong haitus. my ps4 clan is completely dead, i have no friends, and they nerfed 2 of my 3 favorite warframes (saryn, ember, and nova) saryn is still OK just weakened, but the range nerf on ember makes her impossible to use… im still experimenting with her.

im trying to catch up on the quests and im convinced that this game's lore's writing staff has switched from teenagers to literal chimpanzees.

>>16498220

The other guys forgot to mention that the UI just got overall worse and less intuitive. DE us a goddamned embarrassment.

>>16498261

>lore

Why give a shit about that?

>hurr here scan all this random shit in missions and you can piece together tidbits about the world

Fuck you. Nobody wants to take time out of their grind to scan some random object, and all so they can piece together some encyclopedia that's ultimately supposed to compensate for the game's lack of a storyline. Imagine if in Dark Souls players had to collect 50 items from enemies that had very low drop chances in order to get their hands on one item description. That's what scanning in this game is like. Fuck you.

>b-but muh helios

Who fucking cares, there's so many items to scan in the game, it'll take months before you'll complete all the codex entries, and at that point will you really care? I'm just saying that it's not fun, it's more of a chore than anything else, and it hardly adds to the experience at all. Isn't this one of the things people bitched about in Destiny? The storyline was absolute shit and everything was posted online in some kind of interactive codex that nobody gave a shit about?

>>16498298

>Why give a shit about that?

i dont, but it really went off the rails to the point of comedy. i used to think the story was cool enough before they ruined it.

>the rest of your post

who were you replying to? does the game require you to scan tons of shit in a quest or something?

>>16498329

He's talking about the codex and the cephalon fragments.

>>16498347

oh, i just ignored that shit. looked stupid.

>>16498379

Gr8 b8 m8

>>16498379

grinding is option. sounds like you have a gambling problem m8

>>16498277

I hadn't even checked. This is pathetic. I thought DE only had artists left and now they don't even have that.

>>16498445

>grinding is option

>in warframe

LEL

>>16498696

Considering you need about 4000 of this new rarer than oxium, hexium and it only drops like a few hundred every 20-30 mins of continuous grinding this faggot probably bought everything with plat and saying the update was fantastic.

>>16498379

>Says he doesn't give a shit about warframe.

>Is posting in a warframe thread.

Sure thing anon.

>>16498732

>Rarer than oxium

U wot? It’s rare sure but I got enough to make the new shotgun within an hour of playing. What’s weird is the that you only get like 4 from the reward tables, but enemies drop packs of 13 or so at a time.

>>16498732

>need

you absolutely dont.

i've never given DE a penny and dont think anyone should. its pay to not play.

>>16498696

its absolutely optional depending on what you think is the goal of the game.

>>16498802

>wanna try all weapons

grind

>wanna try all frames

grind

>wanna get to the top of mastery

grind

>wanna get X thing

grind

>want rare mods ?

grind

>want to get the best wep build

forma it 5 times(grind)

>best frame build

grind as above

Fun is tied to grind here, unless you aim for some specific weapon and just log in to clear some levels/find some loot crates/

>>16498732

Just done a 15 wave defense on Sinai, Jupiter with nekros and hydroid and got 131 Hexenon and 9 Oxium, it's not rarer.

>>16498811

>i have to have all the weapons, all the frames, top mastery, rare stuff, best, best.

yea, all optional.

the best weapons dont even require top anything, and the "best" builds depends on how you use them. grinding is optional.

now i basically just help people play stuff i want to play and experiment with, but the way i always played the game was just helping other people go far in survivals/defenses… although i hate how DE killed the 60 minute survivals being popular, but i still find people to do that stuff.

i get credits and blueprints from playing missions, every now and then i check to see what i can build that i dont have. then i see if i like it, if i like it then i try modding it as best i can.

dumbasses that have to have everything have the same mentality of buyfags. the game for them is "getting stuff" and not shooting/modding but the fun is shooting/modding, not getting stuff. the getting stuff is endless. they just have an addiction and suddenly realize "why am i playing this shitty game about getting stuff" and completely miss the point.

>>16498843

Even if you just want one frame, and one weapon set that can get you through the sortie, you have to grind for it. I agree that if you’re gonna be a hardcore completionist you don’t really have the right to complain about it, but saying grind is optional is like saying playing the game at all is optional.

>>16498843

Ok. Let's use your logic.

>I want tiberon prime because it looks cool

Oh woops I have to be rank 14

>I want to play equinox

Fuck man 9 parts that used to have abysmal drop rate

>I want that barduk frame

Fuck you get max reputation with that one faction

>I want that cool prime frame because my basic one is not shiny

Fuck you. Vaulted. Better wait for unvaulting, pay cash or grind parts to sell for it.

Neither of these bypass grind. These are basic wishes a player would have. There are not abstract things.

This is no wanting all frames. Just for 1 good one you need to grind.

>>16498885

>sorties are end-game, anon

You pass sortie level enemies in like 30 minutes in Hostile mergers endurance. How are sorties end game?

>>16498885

>>16498885

>sorties are end-game, anon

Thanks for saying that you were stupid right off the bat. I would have taken your post seriously otherwise.

>>16498941

sorties are endgame because someone with hundreds of hours into the game probably still couldnt beat one, and i know you probably couldnt solo one.

>>16498956

its not something you can jump right into, anon. did you have a group of friends carrying you? or did you give DE 100s of dollars right off the bat like a faggot?

>>16498968

Neither. A requirement of progress doesn't make something endgame and trying to conflate the two is exactly why DE is so bad with this shit. Warframe doesn't have an endgame because they never bothered to set an upper limit on shit so scaling just gets worse and worse as things go on.

>>16498968

>sorties are endgame because someone with hundreds of hours into the game probably still couldnt beat one

Sortie 1-3 is something you finish in 10-15 minutes.

>>16499016

I don’t think you understood what he was saying.

>>16498843

Have you thought that maybe people want to get many different weapons because they don't want to get bored of using the same shit over and over again?

>>16498991

ok, by "endgame" i mean anything after beating all the quests and the star chart. you will likely get that far before its even feasible to max serration or vitality.

hence why i suggested that sorties are endgame.

i guess theyre not endgame by single player game standards, but for an online game like this, i'd say sorties are within the endgame.

>>16499029

you can get new weapons, you just dont have to get them immediately. i have a ton of weapons. my favorites were all pretty easy to build and didnt require excessive tedious grinding to get.

>>16499023

If you can do Sortie 1-3 in 10 minutes sortie is definitely not end game. It's a daily task, nothing more.

>>16498968

Sorties are hard only on boss levels like the ambulas.

The real cancer are long arbiratio runs.

>>16499062

Anon everything in the game can be done that fast, aside from endless missions which are in 10 minute chunks anyway.

>>16499099

Endless missions have scaling for challenge, eidolons have time optimization, both have skill checks and gear checks. Sorties only have skill and gear checks. A sortie can never give you enemies above level 100. Hostile mergers had level 180 corpus before my squad and I had to extract. There's a clear difference between these. Endless missions are not endgame, but they are closer to end game than sorties could hope to be. Eidolons are may or may not be end game, but they are closer to endgame than endless missions.

>>16499650

>makes the UI better

>hurrr it's bad

>>16499659

>Make the UI worse

>Hurr its better

Two can play this retarded game.

>>16499659

>no longer tells you how many of each prime part you own when claiming rewards

>no longer tells you if you've mastered weapons when buying BPs

>weapon stats are buried further down in menus

>other totally random unnecessary changes that increase visual clutter

Fuck off nigger.

I'm slightly stunned at how completely non-threatening the Ropalolyst was. I had no idea how to fight it but also felt no danger at any point. Maybe once it filters into sorties i'll have to watch what i'm doing. Got an amalgam daikyu mod; can these just roll any weapon?

>>16499976

Really? Cause the ropalolyst can fucking melt my chroma prime. Admittedly once I knew how to not get my butt touched by the rape beam it's a cake walk, but the damage output is fucking absurd.

>>16499976

They don't roll any weapon. There are like 5 new ones for that fight and the only good one is a niche reflect mod for the Javlok.

>New update

>Every pub turns to shit

>Have to figure out how the fuck the new game mode works

>No idea if its bugged like the usual DE shit or working as intended

>They "improve" some part of the UI again

>A lot more flashy but less information

Every fucking time, when will they learn?

>>16497861

I had 1 conduit run out the timer. Probably a safety for spawn fucking up. It's definitely not fun, the only reason it's possible at all is with magus lockdown and a large enough aoe to hit enemies far enough away to have time to get to the boss. It would be massively improved if they were marked before they were attacked.

Boss was alright, stumbled through it the first time then mostly kept the same group for the other 5 runs I had to do. It's definitely not threatening other than the cheese 1 shot it does after it cutscenes you back to the middle platform each time. Some of the jumps are a bitch if you have low speed.

I don't understand why jupiter was redone in the first place. All the jumping platforming tiles might make people see it as another uranus.

>>16498732

Wisp is 1200, gun blueprint from market is another 350, I didn't check the clan research ones. I got 2-300 from 20-25 minute 8 round runs. Volt rapes the corpus so you only have to worry about locking down the bosses. 3 times I had abilities get permanently locked out.

so the new tileset is just an old one reskinned with a darker shader used?

why cant they use that darker shader for other levels to i miss the old darker feel of levels.

Have they ever said why they redid a tileset that already was unique instead of creating a new one or revamping some REALLY ancient one like the asteroid tileset?

>>16501390

> It's definitely not fun, the only reason it's possible at all is with magus lockdown and a large enough aoe to hit enemies far enough away to have time to get to the boss.

That's what I was noticing. Since the only combat the mission requires is against the amalgams for the keys and the demolyst, I was figuring a strong team comp would be something like Trinity/Octavia for invisibility/Chroma/Support(currently slowva). Sit invisible, kill the amalgams, lockdown the demolyst and Chroma will spin2win. I'm currently at 10k for score, I'll probably try a few more times over the weekend for 20k but I probably won't do much more than that.

>>16502625

Youre overthinking it. The level scaling is weak if youre doing endless, the only threat is the demolyst because they tank quite a bit. Take 2 dmg buff frames so you can do 2 conduits at a time and simply spray at a 360 angle. Any anti-corpus loadout will steamroll through the mode at ease. If you want absolute easy-mode take 2 to 4 explosion ignis guys with you, frame wont matter at that point.

Or just cheese it with Titania solo, as always.

>>16501489

It's not really a reskin. There are a couple rooms that obviously are the same ones remade but the majority aren't really recognizable and there are a bunch of large gap walkway platforming tiles that are jarringly different than the rest of the game.

I ran a capture mission to scan things and it seems like a single amalgam mob spawned with the radio stalker type message from Alad. Very underhwhelming.

They showed new frames and tileset on devstream. Speedy one looks fucking rad, fat one is probably gonna be funny to make all pink and cosplay kirby for all of ten minutes and then chuck it in the trash. Gonna make new Eva cosplays with the fast one.

I might have a retarded idea as to why they ended up reworking the Jupiter tileset, and since I'm a consolefag I have to ask: are there still gas vents in the reworked tileset? The ones you can aim glide over forever which made specific riven challenges (and probably nightwave challenges at this point) trivial instead of a pain to complete?

The new boss is pretty shit, eh? At least I got all the Wisp parts in less than 10 attempts, so I'm happy to never have to do it again.

>>16505776

>they changed that defense tile

the fuckers

>>16506680

tbh expanding on the tenno lore was the biggest mistake DE could have made, the only reason I can even bear to continue playing is because they gave us a button to shut most of it off and larp as space ninjas like God intended.

You know how you need to have done Chimera quest to do all this update's content? And you got a sword with a bonus vs Sentients? And most of these new Corpus units are part Sentient? Take that shit with you to Disruption and actually kill Demolysts instead of tickling them with wet noodles and spitballs. Use the Umbral mods too. It works. So do Exodia Epidemic and Magus Lockdown, they get suspended midair so you get some breathing room. Demolysts always start on a path a good distance away from the console, so don't just hang around the console and wait on them, run off, look, listen for beeps. That health bar is NOT the console, it's for the Demolyst.

>>16506680

Rell's what happens when a kid's juiced up on space magic and doesn't have a support system like the Lotus. Psyche goes to shit, mentally locked in a warframe they had to make/fetch for him so he could focus his powers somehow. His body's probably long gone and it's just his mind and his mental disfunction left in there by the time he can't stop making void ghosts show up. He was just also autistic. The only relevance that had was an explanation for why he got singled out and ditched.

>>16505950

What's your measurement for it being shit? It's not hard, it has neat mechanics in the flight and use of ziplines, and the warframe part drops don't compete with the amalgam mod drops. It's also got reliable access to the old Sentient enemies if you need them for anything. The only shitty thing about it I can see is sometimes you get laser nuked while coming out of a cutscene animation.

>>16505742

You can always just walljump on the 2nd floor balcony that overlooks the cryopod on Akkad. Keep bonking your head on the ceiling (or jutting bit of wall) while you run up the wall and aim at the enemies who run to the center.

>>16499650

Desecrate/Pilfer still has synergy worth going for, it's just worse than before. Corpses can only be looted once, so each ability gets a shot at it. Halved corpses can still be desecrated on each chunk, and strangledome tends to mangle corpses. Sucks for sure, though, to have no chance at triple drops per corpse/chunk.

>>16498379

You have to like the general gameplay enough. The grind is just a guide towards where to play. I take breaks when I've played too much too often and am not having as much fun.

>>16507713

I remember in the beta when capturing a target they'd scream and cry as you sucked them in. Always made me feel like I was a mercenary first, and since they removed that, I noticed everything else was softened up. I hate that.

>>16507800

That entire conversation with the Lotus about it was stupid.

>you didn't know he existed, that's why he's a little bitch

<nuh uh

>uh huh

If the lotus just said 'no autistic children in the Dream' I think a lot of this could be avoided.

should i bother getting into this game or is it a curse i should avoid like most other mmos/loot shooters? the movement and combat is just very alluring

>>16507800

>It's not hard

This is not a point in its favor, unless you think it's an accomplishment to defeat a boss without putting forth any effort, and that would be antithetical to the concept of a boss fight, in my opinion.

>it has neat mechanics in the flight and use of ziplines

<run along some suspended cabling until you reach some kind of energy core

<bait the monstrosity into attacking you with its laser beam

<hide behind the core until it gets charged with energy

<wait for the bastard to get close so you can press a button to gain control of it and force it into the charged core so it can be electrocuted

<Repeat 3 times and then attack it for realsies

You use the standard movement abilities to traverse the environment in the boss room, same as you would anywhere else in the star chart, so I don't think this is a point in its favor either.

>the warframe part drops don't compete with the amalgam mod drops.

You speak as if someone at DE would've seriously considered that it would be a good idea to instate a drop table for this boss that incorporated both the shitty new mods and the Wisp parts so that only one would drop when the boss is defeated. Should we praise them for not being retarded? It seems like that would be a pretty retarded thing to do, but I mean it is DE we're talking about here.

>It's also got reliable access to the old Sentient enemies if you need them for anything.

This is inconsequential to me

DE doesn't know how to design good boss battles. A good boss battle is supposed to test the player's skill with the game's underlying mechanics. This game's bosses are just damage sponges that have arbitrary invincibility phases wherein the player is expected to do some menial task until they get another opportunity to deal damage again. This game's bosses act merely as damage type and resistance checks. This shit is boring because low level players who don't have a good spread of mods and weapons will be locked out of being able to do any real damage, and high level players who have a tricked out meta weapon with a riven that allows them to deal a fuckton of damage will breeze throw the challenge without so much as breaking a sweat. What this game really needs is some boss battles that challenge the player to use the movement mechanics in combination with the weapon mechanics to defeat a powerful foe. The reason it hasn't happened yet is because this game's progression is built around individual stat increases and damage match-ups that, when coupled with the individual profiles of three other players, must be used to respond to certain enemy types. It's sad, too, because beneath the horde shooting nonsense there are some mechanics that are good enough to produce a more nuanced and engaging combat system.

>The only shitty thing about it I can see is sometimes you get laser nuked while coming out of a cutscene animation.

Not if you're Rhino, I guess.

>>16507899

Anon, you type like a whiny little bitch. Anyway, the boss fight is great compared to other boss fights in the game. You can always advance to the next step within a few seconds at most, no waiting until you're allowed to do something. You don't wait on it to get close, you do a big jump to get over to it. It's not just an enclosed arena, it's a minor skill check of using the regular parkour mechanics. The drop tables work well to get you want you want without 20 replays. The point about the old Sentient enemies isn't relying on whether you and only you need them, you dork. This boss fight better fits your description of what you say an improved version of a boss fight would be than any other boss in the game.

>Not if you're Rhino, I guess

Oh gee I guess I didn't think that a tank could tank damage, fucking brilliant correction. Right up there with repeating all the steps to the fight but with a blasé tone so we can understand you're underwhelmed and not just narrating.

<>>16507915

If this is the best you can do, you don't even deserve a response.

>>16507898

It's not that bad. Early on is annoying because of jewing for slots but it softens up mostly reasonably and there are plenty of whales to use as plat mines.

>>16506680

That qest was pretty godamn funny

>>16506680

>doesn't have a support system like the Lotus

Not quite right.

Lotus did jack shit to keep the Tenno sane. Margulis did by creating transference. The Lotus didn't want to take care of Rell because she knew she couldn't control him like she did the rest of us.

All that comes down to what the Void fundamentally does to a mind, and what the MitW really is.

>>16511168

She put us in the dream so we'd think the Tenno and warframes are the same thing. We were kept focused in a single very specific way, on controlling the only thing we could channel our powers into "safely" while we were still unskilled and volatile as our actual selves. Keeping us from controlling our bodies and other bodies at the same time also mate it easier to hide our vulnerable real selves. Even though Rell stubbornly fought it off, he still went nuts and had to sloppily compartmentalize the fuckery that was happening to his mind. The man's either a mental affliction made more real through the effects of void + transference + mental instability, or he's an already existing malevolent entity from the void that was able to find Rell since he wasn't as well hidden as us. These powers aren't natural for a human body, so this could easily be similar to X-Men mutants whose powers "turned on" only to be lethal to themselves.

>>16511212

No to pretty much every statement you just made.

Tenno are not put in the pods not to mislead them.

They weren't unskilled. Volatile, yes, but not in the way you imply.

The Tenno never had frail physical bodies.

The MitW isn't a unique entity.

>>16511272

The pods are part for stasis, part for enhancing transference. Being put in the dream involved a large measure of amnesia, and we had to work back up to our current level of transference mastery through story quests, so we did lose a measure of technique. Tenno bodies are human bodies, they're not instantly improved all-round just by having been exposed to the void. Durability and other Improvements come over time through practicing void mastery i.e. focus schools, which we had to work through from square one after waking up. It's presented as something we knew and practiced in the past. The exact nature of the man in the wall is intentionally left open but existing info leans towards both examples I gave.

>>16511279

Go play the War Within again, and if you're at it the Sacrifice and Chains of Harrow too. Most of what you just mentioned is outdated information based on the Second Dream and only that.

>>16511312

So I looked over it all again. The cryopods on Lua were in use during the Orokin age, Lotus just kept us hidden there. We had some measure of void training (focus schools, blast, transference, void mode) on the Zariman 10-Zero, and during the current age we've lost it upon reawakening in our real bodies and slowly redeveloped it. Rell knew of the Man in the wall back then, Lotus and others have heard him, and he's been growing "stronger" as we've gotten reacquainted with our void techniques, eventually able to overpower Rell and affect the outside world more than before. It was definitely just Rell's mind and the Man left inside Harrow by the time we intervened, and now he's much more freely doing what he wants since we "absorbed" the burden of him. It's pointed out that he's more likely both the things I said he might be than either one but still left inconclusive. Even if he weren't an extant entity, he could've been incorporated as a mental burden we took on the same as Umbra's memories and grief.

>>16507898

The new player experience really sucks unless you have a buddy to ferry you around the star chart, and the slot judaism is real bad especially now that the only non-plat system for getting more slots is currently dead while DE presumably tweaks it.

The real dumb shit is getting all the completion to so much as touch any new content that's dropping, but that's not a problem specific to new players.

>>16515329

>Added range for demolyst auto marking

When they randomized the demolyst spawn, why didn't they just mark them the moment they spawn? It's not as if the mode will be worse off if they do.

how terrible are the new guns anyway?

spectra vandal really?

>>16517353

>uR a JeRk

>>16517353

BASED

hope the guy who did that used an alt, else he's perma banned from the game like everyone who hurts Rebb's feefees

>>16480414

isn't nightwave down for the time being thou?

but ya i could understand she way to token black girl for me

>>16512463

Having someone carry you to endgame would complete ruin any personal progression. I can't see anyone enjoying the game if they did that.

The only thing a new player really needs is warframe market and how to farm capture relics.

>>16517353

>local woman is retarded

Sometimes I wish this country had hate speech laws so I could get people fired for being dumb like this.

>>16519424

Canada has hate speech laws :^)

question

best gayframe?

>>16519470

battles passes in most games give me something to do, other then a fucking random gamble in a box. the battle pass gives me a list of shit to motivate me to play the game dude its much better then the fucking boxes

>>16519465

Nezha

I haven't played this since they released that dragon themed warframe. How is the game in its current state? Still as grindy as ever?

>>16520963

They've deliberately changed open world stuff to be less grindy, like mission outposts on PoE, and made arcanes no longer need crafting. All companions now have their own version of vacuum.

Desecration, Khoras cage, and hydroid pilfer no longer stack their looting, but that may be reversed from the MASSIVE outcry.

Otherwise the grind is the usual for the most part.

When omega forma?

>>16535853

We technically already got it. The sprite they used for it went to Aura Forma which makes your Aura slot have a universal polarity.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Aura_Forma

Dunno if they'll ever implement a forma with the function of Omega Forma.

Next week, nightwave intermission.

Didn't think 3D stills were such a hassle to render and arrange in a narrative. Tennocon apparently delayed the next episode.

No more clan/friend weeklies, 3 ayatans needed rather than 5, most time challenges halved, and you can catch up with last weeks challenges after completing the current week.

Yey

>>16550997

just go wukong or valkyr.

>>16551166

Shouldn't be too hard. I'd say get an ogris and mod it for radiation, give it that -99% self damage mod. Then run baruuk with adaptation, at least 200% str, and then health and armor, you'll also want some efficiency to keep your daggers cheap. Then just activate your daggers and shoot your feet a little.

Threadly reminder to not bring bless trinity to ESO.

>>16551166

>>16551177

Doesn't phantasma still self proc rad on its alt fire?

>>16551255

>>16551166

I just tested it in the simulacrum, evidently the no fun allowed squad beat us to it and you can't self inflict radiation.

>>16551255

>reminder to not bring bless trinity to ESO.

Why?

>>16550997

>new ambulas bossfight

What? It takes even longer now?

>>16550997

>Ambulas

>Difficult

Just nuke 'em with Magnetize bubbles.

>>16551166

stand in front of laser orbs in orokin tilesets

irradiating disarm makes it so enemies can rad proc you on hit

>>16551376

If you're going for 8 or 16 waves which is pretty standard, bless duration brings 0 benefit. You hide behind volt shields so damage reduction doesn't matter, and if Saryn is running around they'll just use molt for survivability. EV builds main benefit is it provides more energy, faster. In the time it takes for a bless trinity to cast EV and kill the EV target the EV trinity could cast EV twice. ESO is dependent on trinity supplying energy, so anything that slows down that supply directly harms the ability of the squad to succeed in the mission. If you're focus farming its worse, because you want to do as much killing while the convergence bonus is active, and if you are able to cast but can't because of a lack of energy, that is sometimes a significant amount of focus you could lose out on. I've done runs with a bless trin and then an EV trin where I'll lose out on 15-20k focus because the bless trin didn't or couldn't supply energy fast enough to power discharge/miasma. Also, because everyone runs ESO with a trinity, efficiency becomes a dump stat. You don't need it because trinity is supposed to provide all the energy you need. So if trinity builds are slow to provide that energy, the team suffers more.

>>16555013

She's better than wukong is the impression I get from youtuber hot takes, but at the same time the massive laser attack is 'eh' even after her first three powers buff it.

>>16555013

Her buffs are pretty fuck good, the rest of her kit is pretty meh. She's entirely usable though, and has some meme build usage.

Just played the game for 3 hours and it seems like a typical shooter looters mmo.

Should I keep going?

>>16558286

Warframe is a horde shooter in gameplay, so try doing an excavation or survival mission for as long as you can. That's basically peak warframe and if you don't enjoy it you can drop the game without regrets or you can become a forum shitter whining about how you want frames nerfed because you can't git gud. Non-endurance gameplay exists but its mainly relevant for running fissures. It's not very enjoyable or interesting. You can also safely skip the open worlds if you want to have fun.

>>16558286

There awaits nothing but disappointment here. Even if you come to love the game, it will never become a satisfying experience. DE has trapped themselves on the content treadmill and can't get off until the game dies.

Why has no one crashed the Warframe economy by glitching in Platinum, buying normal items, and then getting banned causing a scarcity and a skyrocket in prices? If people get banned because of it, they can just apply and maybe DE will fix that shitty system

>>16559728

Why haven't you?

>>16559728

Cause no one cares enough.

I haven't played warframe in a while. Haven't been hearing good things. Player count is dropping, content is starting to stagnate. Sounds like the game is dying

>>16559728

because you are limited to, at best, 25 or so trades a day

>>16559926

Tennocon is right around the corner :^)

I'm so fucking sick of these long content droughts and when we do get new content it's shit. DE needs to spend their time refining the gameplay than making shitty open worlds and crappy remasters of tilesets that don't need them.

>>16559939

Like always the player count will go up for a few weeks and then drop back down again because there won't be enough interesting content to play more than once

>>16569020

The new war will definitely be just that, but railjack could give something actually interesting like raids once were.

>>16569195

>>16569020

their company is run by literal chinese. They are a shit company, and shit developers who have no idea how to make a proper game.

>>16569195

There's not a single redeemable part of this thing. Everything is just awful.

Why would you make this?

Who told you this was a good idea?

>>16570049

It randomly showed up on the Volafile. I just ran it through Xmedia real quick for filesize. Why? So anons could LOL at it of course.

>Login for the first time in ages for update

>Play one match of new game mode

>Its boring and not fun and all i do is kill suicide bombers because dumbdumbs are all dead on the floor thinking this is the new sanctuary to level shit rank 0 frames in

>Finish a match and quit

>Can't even be arsed to do 3 for the alert

I can't believe how bad Nightwave burnt me out on this game. Battlepasses truly are cancerous.

>>16589180

The new game mode is missing polish.

I can't help but feel the whole studio is focused on something else entirely, leaving a b or c team on the regular updates.

>>16589666

Nah, what's happening is that they push their individual teams to always be working on SOMETHING to maximize profits. Problem is that they don't have good management so no one is focusing those groups to work on similar content in order to get it out. Everyone's just doing their own thing. It's a good strategy for a small company or one that develops a game which isn't out yet, but for something like an MMO like grinder, this shit can be infuriating.

Who's your husbandoframe?

>>16589666

I think it's just DE places more emphasis on cosmetics and art than gameplay. There are loads of things they could do to keep people playing if they just improved the gameplay, but they don't know how to anymore so they stick an ephemera on rotation C and call it a day.

>>16598438

>human faces

Why?

>>16590847

The core gameplay works fine, DE just needs to stop chasing after the muh endgame crowd since there is no endgame in this sort of game in the first place

>shitframe

when will you faggots play something new?

>>16598890

DE isn't chasing after the endgame crowd, that's everyone's issue and that's why the game is stale. DE doesn't want you to spend more than 20 minutes in a mission so everyone runs low level, trivial content that gets boring fast.

>>16598956

I wish I could anon.

>>16598904

ember is a tranny

>>16599090

>trivial content.

Newsflash, fighting level 500 mobs isn't more difficult compared to level 5s. No, really. All you're doing if you turn everyone into one shotting bullet sponges is restrict the range of gear players can effectively use.

Combat difficulty can't improve unless they don't require you to engage the enemy in new, specific ways, but DE reserves those improvements only for new boss fights.

>>16599432

>fighting level 500 mobs isn't more difficult compared to level 5s.

It really is. You can be a lot less careful and a lot less optimal in your build if you're doing easy content.

>All you're doing if you turn everyone into one shotting bullet sponges is restrict the range of gear players can effectively use.

All that means is that a lot of gear is poorly designed. If you're suggestion to "Y frame is bad" is "Make all the enemies weak so no one notices" then you are a bad designer. You would be par for the course at DE though.

>Combat difficulty can't improve unless they don't require you to engage the enemy in new, specific ways, but DE reserves those improvements only for new boss fights.

The game does need mechanics that provide more action and interactivity, but that doesn't mean enemies need to be designed like bosses. It's antithetical to a horde shooter to fill it with non-horde enemies. That's one reason why no one plays against the corpus very much. They are filled with specialized enemies and no one enjoys playing against them because of it. They are also poorly designed, but that only makes it worse, fixing that wouldn't suddenly make them a fun faction to fight against. The infested are a really good faction because

>Ancients and support enemies not overwhelming common

>Ancients and support units primarily augment the horde enemies(chargers, leapers, etc)

>Have fun enemy types that enhance the core enemy types(boilers, volatile runners, mutalists enhancing chargers/leapers/etc)

>Ancients and support units are a threat that need to be prioritized without making them overwhelming

The infested are fun to fight at level 30 and they are fun to fight at level 300 because they are a well designed horde faction. Each ancient and support unit has one specific purpose and they don't go beyond it. The healer heals, provides DR and absorbs status. The disrupter protects against ability damage and provides magnetic procs to infested to cut down your energy supply and weaken some CC abilities. Well focused, clear and consistent design. The faction is challenging because it has a good cast of enemies and it is challenging without changing anything about the gameplay we have.

>>16615049

I dream of a day that valkyr's gets a new 1 and 3 that works together with the the other two abilities

>>16500028

does anyone know how well the javlok mod pairs with an electric chroma?

>>16615049

is there currently a way to mod her to make her atleast usable? the energy drain is so fast i cant even use her for low level missions. and dont say "use primed flow" because that would require that i spam a bunch of energy pads at the start which is unreasonable.

the best way i found to use her is to max efficiency as much as possible, give her as much range as possible, and add firequake. it provides a nice amount of CC and kills low level mobs but the best energy drain i can accomplish is .75/s which is way too high for a low damage CC.

i honestly full expect them to do an umber ember and do a complete rework that completely changes her, makes her OP. then make her shit again in a future update.

>>16618479

got a good build?

Is there a way to make Kubrows good? I was thinking about making a Mecha build but I don't know if it's worth it

>>16633697

tbh i cant put down my sentinel because of vacuum. playing without it is too tedious.

the animal/fetch mods are trash and dont do anything to replace or even compete with vacuum.

my cat running across the map to bring me 1 item every now and then is not the same as me being able to bullet jump into a room and have every item within 15ft pulled towards me in an instant.

also, how has DE made it so you can leave people behind and extract on every map EXCEPT the open world ones? i still get yanked into the exit when free roaming every time 2 people want to leave. if i drop out of the squad im left alone in an empty lobby and cant even invite friends to it

>>16635216

does it suck in items like vacuum? the description doesnt read like it does.

>>16635285

Yes. It boosts the size of the gather radius of your frame and your dog,

>>16635296

but boosting the size means little when items dont get pulled towards you like they do with vacuum. the gather radius is still a gather radius, right? instead of a gravitational pull?

>>16633695

you should try the tiberon prime

>>16635334

It's just vacuum.

>>16635334

Fetch works exactly like Vacuum now.

>>16635358

>>16635362

huh, thats great news. i guess i can finally have a use for my giant kubro again. do they still need dna stabilizers and attention every other day to stay at peak health?

>>16635379

>you can google this shit and get results from 5 years ago because the community is dead

cool tip, kid.

>>16635350

Sold that shit. I get its appeal, but it isn't appealing to me.

>>16635914

you sold a weapon instead of just making it MR fodder?

>>16615049

I remember years ago before her WoF build got popular, I took her, using a fresh WoF build, and a friend who was Trinity and went 2 hours in a endless just standing there. Those were good times, blame ember shitters for making her shit.

Now Wukong is fun.

>>16635942

I thought the leveling to 30 was a given.

>>16636525

cant you only sell unranked weapons? or does he mean trading it in for 4k credits?

>>16640139

If by sell you are referring to trading for plat, you can’t trade built primes so it’s a moot point. Only syndicate weapons or prisma ones can be trade built, and yes they have to be unranked.

>>16604891

nice imgur filename faggot lmao

>>16477995

Operators were a mistake.

>>16640180

I fucking hate them

>>16640180

Indeed, they are so boring to use and their weapons fucking suck, I hate how DE keeps forcing them, not to mention how much grinding they require to get "strong"

>>16641807

cant shoot down the idea of someone currently working for them. plus i think steve that faggot likes to work on making them potato kids…different.

>>16497900

>Wisp

Try her with a max power build. And I mean max, as much as you can fucking fit. Kill your range and eff if you have too. Make sure you have Rage or Hunter's on, and slot in some armor if you can. You'll be tanky AF with loads of fire rate and melee/move speed, your 3 will probably 1-shot everything and your 4 will be a pocket LOIC.

>>16642766

>wisp

they'll nerf her in no time, but they'll go for the obvious and nerf her abilities. what they really need to nerf on her is her ass

>>16643598

Why would they nerf her? Being fucking invincible is what half the frames in the game do now, and they typically only nerf EZ nukes and AFK abilities. If anything she’s a side grade to chroma.

>>16643666

satan, they nerf every good frame to some extent. the 2/3 frames i main have been nerfed in one way or another.

nova has not been touched, but shes far from invincible. ember has been… well… shes useless compared to even mag. and saryn had all of the fun removed from her frame. instead of using spore and keeping the disease alive using lash, then using either molt/miasma in emergencies depending on if they trigger my fight or flight response.