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>this thread again

>What mods do you guys recommend as must-haves?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=best+new+vegas+mods

I;ve heard many anons say avoid project nevada as its garbo. I've played it and can say it adds dumb shit in.

>>16477474

Yeah how dare I promote video game discussion on /v/

>google New Vegas mods

This is how you end up with overrated usually bloated shit anon.

>>16477501

Yeah I've used it a few times but only ever use like two features from it which can be added by other mods now pretty sure.

>>16477508

It's the same discussion. That we had. For a thousand times already.

Honestly, what more is there to talk about NV mods that hasn't already been covered in the thousand previous threads?

Fuck this gameplay shit where's my tiddie mods?

>>16477549

I never paid attention to any of those threads because i didn't have a toaster capable of running it till now

>>16477727

Anon, you don't do that to New Vegas.

New Vegas should be modded like a fine lady, with great gameplay and story mods that fit the game well, and graphical enhancements to reveal the Mojave in all of its beauty.

But you can go wild with that slut people call Fallout 4 with all the degenerate mods you can think of because this is all this shit heap of a game deserves: to be raped in a dark alley until the only thing it's able to do is suck your cock.

>>16477724

…to be fair brain tumor came later and only literal subhuman tribal trash he wants to get rid of charges with stones and sticks.

If you didn't side with House you're a retard.

If you sided with anyone you're a retard, genocide run all the way baby, turn all of New Vegas into a real waste land. And check my dubs.

>>16477777

What a waste.

Is there a mod that rebalances damage resistance and damage threshold yet? So that high ROF weapons are actually somewhat useful and so melee enemies aren't the most dangerous targets to face in the game? Because a golden gecko shouldn't be able to kick your ass harder than someone using a semi automatic combat shotgun.

Here's an old ass pastebin, half of these mods are probably outdated or something but it's a start

https://pastebin.com/qWFwZXFf

>>16478427

The problem with the JSawyer mod is that it fucks with carry capacity hard enough to make inventory management a huge pain in the ass. I tried the mod once and quit before reaching Vegas because I was spending more time fiddling with my inventory while running back and forth to sell a quarter of the loot the location I had just cleared dropped.

>>16478454

It's supposed to encourage the player to only loot necessities and items with the best $/weight ratio, to both slow player progression and make those choices more meaningful. In practice it just adds tedium and turns flipping loot into a grind.

>>16478490

Your leader is a kiddie boinker.

The only good thing he did was take the faggot I accidentally recruited off my hands so he can have his dick professionally rubbed.

>>16478490

NCR. Yes Man is a glorified "so you killed every NPC in the game" option and is not meant to be taken seriously.

>>16478528

Oh look, the local retard has shown up.

The fate of the Courier:

>NCR ending: you get a medal and a pat on the back.

>Legion ending: you get a coin and a pat on the back, plus an all-night long party to honory you.

>House ending: you get shit ton of money and luxury, and your own casino.

>Yesman ending: Literally nothing… independ fags like to imply that you may or may not will govern the Independ New Vegas, but this is super unlikely.

>>16478538

You actually get cucked in the NCR ending.

>>16478538

>you get a coin

Your face is on literally every coin of legion currency minted from then on, you become a national hero, immortalized on the legal tender of the nation.

>>16478561

Memory was foggy, sorry.

>>16478561

>>16478538

That's why I did a Legion run my first run, Ceasar seemed like a dude who would go the extra mile to reward you.

>>16478566

If you have a positive standing with Legion they will send you regular boxes with money and items banned in the main legion

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Caesar%27s_Favor

>>16478547

You also get cucked on Cass "good" ending.

>>16478578

Also once the boxes spawn even if you get on their bad side you can still grab them.

Is there such a thing as good New Vegas modpack ?

I really don't feel like spending all afternoon polishing this turd with mods , should I just say fuck it and just get the unofficial patches ?

Fuck me I'm retarded. >>16478589 was meant for >>16478578

>>16478510

Outward tried the same approach and it was just as shitty. At least your armor/weapons didn't count against your carrying capacity. Very limited inventory works in a game like Diablo 2 where emptying your inventory takes less than a minute and you get back right where you left off.

fallout is gay no matter what faction you play

>>16478605

Fuck off Dr. Seuss

Is there a mod that lets you play as a super mutant or would that break the engine too much

BIG IRON BIG IRON

PLAY IT AGAIN, JOHNNY GUITAR

>>16478618

>that's actually surprisingly decently written but also

>we need to preserve technology to prevent 2nd nuclear war

>let's nuke the institute without taking anything they were working on

Life's hard, doubly so when you're a retard.

>>16478623

that's why I said "decent" anon, not prerfect, let alone good. Lrn 2 reading comprehension.

>>16478623

Destroying tech without preserving some samples is out of character, but we don't strictly "know" that there weren't teams salvaging the labs during the battle.

>>16478638

Mr. Pipedream was a dumbass who thought he could singularly create a utopia based on nothing but his "genius" leadership, and yet he couldn't stop a single turncoat from unravelling all his plans in a day then killing him. He couldn't even build a city with more than four decent buildings in it (all of which were still pretty fucking dirty and decrepit by the way).

Brotherhood > Gay dehydrated corpse in a pod

Hitman animations

Solid project

Guns follow crosshairs mod

>>16478662

>Mr. Pipdream thought he could create a utopia

I've seen no one fucking mention this, but his main goal is to "go to the moon". If my memory is correct, he says this near the end of his quest line. Every other faction has a plan for New Vegas. NCR wants it for funds, Legion want it for big dick rights, You want it for funds and big dick rights, but House wants to declare war on the two neighboring armies who have basically ignored him or worked with him so he can send his fucking /clank/ waifus into space.

House cannot into space.

>>16478677

Actually House wanted the Legion and the NCR leave Vegas alone, so he could profit from them (via trading and tourism). Then when he jewed enough from them, then going to space and restart civilization.

>>16478662

>yet he couldn't stop a single turncoat from unravelling all his plans in a day then killing him

>He couldn't even build a city with more than four decent buildings in it

Wow, i know that BoS fags were retarded but this much? Literally the first thing you learn about him, how he is baerly manage to live because all his tools are blocked from him without the chip. If the delivery wasnt late before the nukes he could preserve Vegas with his point-laser defense. Which by the way fried his systems and putted him in a coma.

The guy beated nigger tier tribes and drug addict leftist scum on backup power and with a few barely functioning robot. If i want to be a dick with you then i could say, this include the BoS too, since they were hidding from him like a bitch. They feared a barely functioning post-ap. hotwheels… What a shame!

>>16478740

Mods you fucking retard, it's literally what the thread is about.

>>16478697

>NCR government is so retarded that they accepted deal of

>I will give you gambling and you will give me money, you can take a decrepit airport I guess

>>16478760

tbf they also get to share power from the hoover dam

why didn't Ulysses just nuke the dam?

>>16478984

Because the repercussions would've been two dam high.

Was looking at nexus mods and they're pushing some thing called vortex instead of their old nexus mod manager, anyone got the lowdown on this?

>>16480581

The only acceptable mod managers are Wrye Bash or Mod Organizer 2

>>16479795

I always found it odd that Fallout had the neck seam issue when Oblivion barely had any seam at all.

>>16480635

>New Vegas

>Bethesda

>>16477455

>Are there any mods or mod guides that are just the best of the best that have come up in recent years?

>>16477498

>seconding OP's request as someone who has never played NV

well typically you want the NVSE (New Vegas Script Editor) which is a foundation for just about everything

http://nvse.silverlock.org/

And then I recommend the fix for Lever Action Shotguns, pretty sure this was it but it may be a different one

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62994

the sturdy caravan shotgun fix so it's counted for perks

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/44168

Surplus Ammo Breakdown mod

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39433

And those are just common sense fix type mods, there were others but I cant think of them right now.

Now for fun EXTRA stuff Autumn Leaves and the Some Guy series mods are top tier, but only install about half of some guy at first

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/48925

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50146

There is other stuff too but these are very solid recomendations

>>16480737

fuck it was script extender

>>16478616

>Wanting to forge your own nation is the path of edgelords and fuckups

>But wanting to suck the dick of someone else is perfectly okay

I pity you anon.

>>16480690

They're only the publishers, not the developers and the development wasn't tainted by Bethesdas meddlings besides the absurd 1 year deadline.

>>16481004

>nation

Unless you roleplay as a guy that actually knows how to run a fucking country and wants to stand in the same place forevermore then yeah, you're an edgelord and a fuckup.

The Courier literally goes all across the Mojave, enjoy going in hidden places, Big Empty, Siera Madre, Divide and so much more… and you want to be stuck in a literal office job for the rest of your life?

House is the best ending because you get the benefit of basically controlling New Vegas (if I am not wrong the ending literally has you influence House in his decisions) but you are still free to do whatever the fuck you damn well please.

I trust a guy that built the army of robots to keep supplying those robots rather than a random ass courier that at best can program a securitron to fist people.

>>16479795

What's the mod?

>>16481004

>>Wanting to forge your own nation

>Nation

>Anarchy

Niggers raping each other while fucked up on meth all day isn't a "nation", just because you have access to securitron vault doesn't mean you'll be an actual leader.

If you ever visited freeside you'd see why House is the best choice.

Freeside is where all the niggers who didn't accept House's conditions of

>stop fucking animals, eating people, taking dope all day and larp as the people I knew before the war and you can enjoy comforts of the Strip, if not, get out.

Freeside could've been on par with New Reno, but problem is they're too much of niggers to unite and accomplish something noteworthy or at the very least stop adddicts from shiving tourists in alleys and feed children instead of having them chase after giant rats for food.

>>16481430

It's the Type4 body and armour replacer.

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66903

>>16481508

>implying House isn't ancap

>>16477455

>Paul Newman

God bless that man. He was doing movies that wasn't cucked and wasn't afraid to call someone a fag.

Jewtube link, cause Slapshot movie clips deserve all the views.

>>16482795

>that whole greentext

What the fuck are you on? In the nine-odd years I've been playing the game, I've never got an ending that bad. That doesn't happen if you aren't a massive fuck up and actually know what you're doing.

>>16482795

>Vegas falls into bloodbath and anarchy if you go independent

>The Courier, with the aid of Yes Man, drove both the Legion and the NCR from Hoover Dam, securing New Vegas' independence from both factions. With Mr. House out of the picture, part of the Securitron army was diverted to The Strip to keep order. Any chaos on the streets was ended, quickly. Chaos became uncertainty, then acceptance, with minimal loss of life. New Vegas assumed its position as an independent power in the Mojave.

That's hardly the bloodbath you described retard. Even without upgrading the securitrons the ending specifically mentions that Vegas recovers, and it's not "only a few survivors" like you exaggerated.

>All these if you didn't do (blank) arguments

Yeah, except I did.

>He thinks that I'm asking for help from the think tank

You're a coon if you dont understand what the courier having access to the technology in the big empty means for the Mojave, it isn't fanfiction. What's fanfiction is you ignoring all the pros and cons of each ending. The think tank either gets killed or stuck in a loop, leaving you with unlimited access to the technology within.

>The Sierra Madre is a deathtrap

I wasn't saying go back to the Sierra Madre you faggot. There's a chip machine right at the location where dog/god kidnaps you, if you fail to see how the matter conversation machines are useful, then I don't know what to tell you.

>Yes man is going skynet

>This retarded argument again

The ending specifically says that yes man has been reprogrammed with complete loyalty to the courier. Nothing more, nothing less, anything else is pure speculation with nothing to back it up.

>Securing allies with factions around the wasteland means means they will flock under my banner

You missed what I was saying. Each of these factions will provide stability within their individual region (aside from ones that interfere, like the powder gangers or maybe BOS). House does the same in his ending, really only caring about Vegas itself. Similar to Greek city states. You're also underestimating their loyalty, considering the boomers support you at the battle of Hoover dam, and you can get the the white glove society and omertas both in your pocket.

>You'll never be anywhere near House

And I don't want to be. House was a retard who surrounded himself with enemies who couldn't handle being questioned.

>Fanfiction tier bullshit

No it isn't. The courier has shown to be heavily competent with robotics, even being able to speak binary with a high enough intelligence. My character was given the option to rule, and he took it.

>But he predicted the apocalypse and bottle caps, woah!!

So did everyone with half a brain. Why do you think people went into vaults in the first place? Bottle caps were also one the most common items pre war, so that makes sense. If that's all it takes to convince you, then your opinion is invalid.

>Benny was the wild card, not you

No he wasn't. House had him pretty much figured out, aside from Yes Man (genius calculations at work).

>Benny wanted to return to the tribal ways

He expressed a longing for those days, but that really doesn't confirm that he wants to turn Vegas into an anprim paradise.

>Muh omnipotence

>Muh intelligence

And this is where House fails. He doesn't provide a coherent argumentation for his rule other than, "calculations, im smart, and something something capitalism and muh business interests"? I could see someone going for house because he's unique and is a cool concept, but he doesn't provide the logical reasoning like the Legion or NCR. The courier also has access to Yes Man, and has essentially the same abilities as mister house by proxy.

>>16478580

I feel like this is so overlooked when people discuss this game, or the NCR ending in general. I mean… why is this even in the game?

>>16481718

House is closer to fascism even though he started out with ancap

>>16483197

>doesn't provide the logical reasoning like the Legion or NCR

>NCR

What's their logical reason?

We need to consume everything in our path as locust while our morals and principles decay even further?

>>16483458

Same reason courier is depicted as a negroid only in NCR ending slide. :^)

>>16483848

The NCR's worst fault is that they're fucking boring.

>>16478984

Because it doesn’t fit with his character of,

MUH BARE N’ BOOL

MUH OLD WORLD!

MUH FLAGS

>>16478538

Yesman is good for the RP element, admit it

>>16490314

well the playable character is literally a unstoppable killing machine, doesn't make any sense to side with somebody weaker than yourself. no character is better suited to rule than the courier because he's a god

>>16490672

Headhunting by th3overs33r or what's his name.

>>16490681

Link?

>>16490682

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65790

>>16490687

Looks interesting, but not interesting enough to add an esm on top of another esp to my load order. I hate when people do this, as if it will force people to play their other mods

>>16490702

I hear you, my load order is stuffed as well and just with quest mods, aside from essentials. But, having played th3overseer's mods, I can say that while they sorta copy Someguy's "atmosphere" well, they're ultimately not worth it if your load order is near-full.

FRONTIER NEVER EVER

inb4 Frontier will be the same garbage as NuCalifornia

>>16490314

>Let people in the wastes learn to survive, just as you did

That kind of outcome makes me wish for an option where you can create your own faction in an independent ending, but specifically by choosing individuals that have proven themselves in the Mojave Wasteland. I'm still pissed so many companions that'd make that possible were cut before release.

>>16490708

Honestly, I'm waiting until someone ports West Virginia from F76 into F4. F4 is hot garbage, let's not even talk about F76, but I really like the idea of taking a comfy trip inna woods and simply explore the whole region. Some of the locations are also pretty cool, I can only hope the port of it to F4 won't add any cringy misogynist california like quests and faction relation/quests, and that they leave the place barren, except for robots and wildlife. Make it truly post apocalyptic and let the players just explore and chill out, let players set up a few settlements, if they want to, maybe add a few stereotypical MMO douchebags/griefers as easter eggs, but that's about it. So much squandered potential, locked away in a shitty game

As for frontier, I also don't hold out too much hope, for the same reasons as you said. Fallout: Miami seems like something I would be interested, tho. It's for fallout 4, again, but it seems like there is a lot of inspiration taken from new vegas, as far as faction relations, world building and general balancing is concerned, so maybe there is hope

>>16490715

>So many companions

Wait, what? I thought only ulysses, vulpes and victor were cut, just how many companions were going to be in NV?

>>16490724

>not porting it to New Vegas

it's all the same engine, dude.

>>16482593

>>16490314

Pretty long winded rants just to disguise your contempt against authority.

We know what happens after each ending so arguing and implying is pointless.

It comes down to either doing whats best for the inhabitants or letting your feelings about authority ruin everything for everyone because you're such a fucking snowflake

>>16491722

Nah man, freeside is the pinnacle of human development, fucking cheap hookers with AIDS, shiving tourists for money, and getting high on bootleg drugs.

>>16491758

Now that you mention, its a shame theres no option to just destroy the planet. In almost any game for that matter.

>>16491778

That was the only good part of SMT4. You could just beat up some ghosts of a white black hole machine to end the universe. It was a great ending since the incompetent assholes on the SMT team can only write a bunch of complete assholes on both sides and pretend that it's grey morality.

>>16491722

He doesn't realize his line of thinking is one way street to becoming what he hates, he'll just end up being an even shittier version of the Caesar. Being your own man is great when you're by yourself with nothing to lose and nothing to care or fight for but it's counter productive when you're a leader.

>>16483848

>Direct democracy

The NCR has a LESS direct democratic form of government than the US. There pretty much is only a Senate. Citizens don't vote directly on any laws.

>>16483491

House is the complete opposite of fascist. He wants a society where the state is autocratic but also incredibly liberal.

Honestly, that is the central problem I see with the analysises here. Democracy =/= liberalism and authoritarianism =/= fascism.

For example, Caesar completely ignored that the Roman Republic lasted for CENTURIES before corruption became a major issue. And that, the Roman Republic was actually far more militaristic and traditionalist than the Empire. Women generally had less rights, there was a sharp line between the Roman citizens and foreign noncitizens, and much of the actual conquest was done during the Republic. The Empire was mostly stagnant aside from mild gains done mostly in the semi-republican Principate, was more liberal, and foreign culture had influence that often outweighed the original Latin culture.

Irony is that the closest societies that existed to Caesar's Legion was direct democracies like Athens and mixed-governments with strong direct-democratic elements like Rome. Both Athens and Rome were militaristic in the sense that all citizens were soldiers, women had limited to no rights in both city-states, and slavery was rife. Hell, not even Sparta was an autocracy. The oligarchs were more powerful than the figurehead kings and there was even a relatively weak citizens assembly.

I'd say that direct-democracy actually would be HIGHLY effective in the post-apocalyptic environment.

>Low populations

>Every citizen has to be a soldier anyways

>Your citizen-soldiers are now more loyal to the government since they have a direct stake in state matters

>Wealth inequality isn't a thing since society has reverted to agrarianism, nomadism, or pastoralism

>Warfare is reduced to a smaller scale anyways

Now, this post-apocalyptic democracy could go for a classical 'city-state dominates all' democracy or a medieval confederate democracy of property-owners like Switzerland. Or, even something like the Zaporozhian Cossacks.

Of course, most people are creatively bankrupt retards who get their politics from political compasses and think that everything has to fit into a neat 'left vs right' divide.

>>16491722

>Rely on ending slides for an ending that is literally you taking over the nation with securitrons

>In a game about the character being whoever the player wants him/her to be

I mean, it really depends on the Courier in question. You can have a Courier who wants to restore the United States of America.

The other endings pretty much rely on the actions of non-Courier characters though. Honestly, this is why I think New Vegas would work well in an engine that actually has political mechanics like Mount and Blade. Mount and Blade with realistic gunplay and squad tactics sounds pretty based to be honest.

>>16491538

yeah, but fallout 4 engine is actually improved quite a bit. sure, your dialog choices are now: Yes, No(Yes), Sarcastic(Yes) and More Info, and the ability to change ammo types is gone, but the game is far less crash happy and more can be done with it. One thing you got to hand F4 is a significant engine change, and if the new vegas remake manages to mod these back in, well, you can theoretically craft a perfect fallout game from the engine. The F3/NV engine gave us about all that it is capable of giving us, unless frontier proves me wrong, I don't think any modder is going to really shock us with another sleeper hit anytime soon, meanwhile F4 has plenty that could be done with it's engine, largely because many aspects of fallout universe and gameplay were stripped to make F4 in the first place, and they can be re-introduced at any time

>>16492176

There's already mods that restore skills and more dialogue options. Hell, even the gameplay trailer for FO4 New Vegas showed that.

>>16492217

Correct, as it literally runs on the same engine as F3 and NV, things like skill points are still technically there, just invisible and with no way to raise them aside from perks and skill magazines. And yet, the engine supports much more now, like an improved weapon and armor modding, power armor actually behaving like power armor, and much more, I unironically can't wait to bounce around in my T51b in the NV remake, as PA is generally too hard to get and relatively useless in base NV, so most players just run with ranger armor in the end game

Really, all I want is something like TTW, which will let you play F3, FNV, base F4 and F76 in the F4 engine, at any time, maybe re-create new california and the midwest as well, make it the ultimate fallout game where you can explore every region. Not like F5 is coming out any time soon, todd will have to salvage 76 and pretend that this is the "next big installment in the franchise" if for no other reason than to save his face

>NCR Shills

The Great Khans are the NCR's true shadow. One just looks prettier than the other. The NCR is a corrupt multi-culti state that exists only by the brahmin-barons, Mobsters, and occasional Vault-Dweller. The Legion is one autists delusional dream made reality by psychopathic tribals and an unstoppable Mormon. House is the only real choice. His plans did not rely on any one individual, and he exists eternally.

>>16492230

>Wanting to play any of the Bethesda Fallouts

Fallout 3 is one thing, 4 is retarded, 76 is TODD GTFO.

>>16490666

>NCR pretending they never had slaves

wew

>>16491901

Ceasar was very aware that the Legion isn't permanent and had a clear intent to merge it with the NCR. The Legion is intentionally over the top so it can contrast the NCR and once the conquest is over the wasteland to settle on a middleground between both. And the Legion isn't actually any sort of state, its exclusively a militant body.

>>16493090

Vulpes was going to the a pro legion companion, but was cut at the last minute, like many other things. That is why he has so much character, compared to the other mooks in the legion

>>16493144

So was Ulysses.

>>16491901

What would a Reply of the Cossacks style letter look like from the Great Khans to NCR/Legion?

>>16493413

>Muh children and old people and wymyn :(

>WE WUZ KHANZ

GH deserve to be assimilated or exterminated. They retarded chem niggers anyway.

>>16491915

>You can have a Courier who wants to restore the United States of America.

>Ignoring the games endings because you like your headcanon more

Are you the kind of autist who rites fanfics?

>>16493413

Great Khans to NCR President Kimball

O President, great Californian devil and devil kin, who are you, who cannot slay a bloatfly with your bare ass? The Legion shits and your army eats. You will not, you son of a whore, make subjects of Khannish sons. We have no fear of you or your army and will battle with you from Nevada to California, fuck your mother.

You shady sands reprobate, New Reno whore, chem brewer of Arroyo, Brahman fucker of Klamath, fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before all gods, the pain in our ass, cur. Screw your mother!

So the Great Khan's declare, you scum. You are not fit to heard bighorners for the Khans. Now we will conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar, the moons in the sky and who knows the year, the day is the same over there as it is over here. For this, kiss our ass.

This was harder than I initially thought

>>16493524

Based

>>16491624

>NCR wiping out diverse and vibrant communities of scorpions and Jackals

<vibrant

Is this a shitpost? The jackals are cannibals and there's no such thing as scorpions, you mean vipers, and they're literally snake cultists.

>>16492414

>being a racemixed rapist legionfag

>>16493045

>House is the only real choice. His plans did not rely on any one individual, and he exists eternally.

This, he will put man on the moon again.

>>16493590

legionfags would be tolerable and might have a point if they didn't behave like fucking niggers.

mandatory

>>16493090

Raul is practically pro-Legion. Granted, nowhere near as much as the cut companions.

>>16493639

That's the main argument for the Legion. That their brutality, while harsh, is actually effective and their lands are 10x safer than any where else in the Wasteland, including the NCR. The Legion is the military occupier who enforce the law over a collection of towns. The main plan being to conquer the NCR and reform it as an empire.

You are mistaking what Caesar did with what Lanius does. Caesar had the Malpais Legate, his right hand man and trusted confidant executed because of his incompetence and disobedience when he broke rank to pursue the Rangers (though I can't find a source on the second half). He was the only man executed for the failure of Hoover Dam. Lanius took over a different Army (one of many, as there are multiple Legates), and to shape them up practiced Decimation. He did not take 10% of the whole legion, at most perhaps 1%. This is an example of how brutal and demanding the legion is, and was in fact a practice of the historical Roman Legion.

The advantage of the Legion is its weakness. It values absolute power, and its head has no scruples for exercising his full power. This is fine when you have Caesar, a man who is knowledgeable and relatively diplomatic. In the hands of a Lanius, the Legion will grind itself to dust and die in the vain attempt of conquest. You could kill both Kimball and Oliver and the NCR will still live. The real power brokers have much more than the military to back them up and encourage co-operation. Kill Caesar and Lanius and there is nothing left holding the Legion together. It will dissolve.

>>16492230

>as PA is generally too hard to get and relatively useless in base NV, so most players just run with ranger armor in the end game

No one uses ranger armor for non-aesthetic reasons. Power Armor is actually really good in NV from a defensive perspective, unlike what we had in 3. The problem is that you're giving up the light armor crit build, which is a pretty hefty sacrifice and something most players aren't willing to do.

>>16491901

>>16490708

The problem with house running things, he hardly what I call able to run all of the new vegas, he sees it as nothing but a profit a business front for all his needs, giving no care about the people he governs, he self-center plutocrat libertarian, believing only people with access to money and power deserve any say, long as nothing is blowing up inside new vegas gates, caring nothing about outside those gates, telling everyone to fend for themselves or get fucked. So by your argument, you want someone who sees people as property in power? Great plan, let's strap our selves to bombs then and blow up each other for whatever beliefs we have and hand over our rights as people to whoever has the most shekels.

>>16493745

Everyone else does too. NCR operates smoothly because of the Circle, because of the Hub, because of the Caravans, and because of New Reno. NCR controls not just their own cash, but technically speaking, Caps too. Caesar has established a currency and controls the trade in his own territory through taxes. Every group utilizes the financial capital for themselves and not really caring about any individual but those in power.

What you have seemed to miss is that House has his ideals just as much as the Legion and the NCR have theirs. All three of them utilize power in all of its forms for these ends. While Caesar desires conquest and an evolution from Republic to Empire and the NCR wants a return to Old World Values, House desires a future beyond the Earth. He sees the damage done, recognizes the flaws of the Old World, and. setting himself as the prime head of state with the varying tribes being negotiated with, wants to lead the world past the cycle of destruction and into indefinite growth in the Stars. Techno-Capitalism more than anything else. Economic growth through technologic advancement.

You can criticize his goal and his method, because clearly there have been a few problems and will be a few more along the way, but you can't criticize some made-up bullshit that isn't what he actually stands for and then pretend like that cannot be applied to any other faction.

>>16493784

So who's to say the player character couldn't do and the same, I mean your character desires are defined by what you do in the game, yeah it's a little lazy I agree, but it's something that Courier could do just as well, even more given all the dlc's and what they learn from their journey, I agree that the best way forward would be to leave the old world, but the idea that there wouldn't be a better way to do things, is a bit unrealistic, hell the idea the Courier wouldn't use the tech of the old world to push forward to a better world is nonsense, I agree on pushing away from the old and onto a better future, but the ends need to be justfied if you leave the planet only to be doomed to repeat the past would only result us falling back onto the same issues and it could be even worse the second time around.

>>16493810

Of all the endings, the least likely is the Independent Vegas ending. It's an after-thought and not an actual ending, a way to ensure the player can end the game even if they kill everyone. Putting that aside, a Vegas run by the courier (assuming he won't be ousted by Yes Man after he finishes his reprogramming) is the worst possible Vegas. He's officially pissed off both the NCR and the Legion, which is effectively destroying the economy, and becoming reliant on disparate groups that are at odds with each other fundamentally. Top that off with the fact that canonically the courier is a drifter, makes him likely to be incompetent at any station beyond right-hand man. I'd argue that his true equals are Ulyssess and Graham, both demonstrably terrible independent leaders. Graham only does as much as he does in conjunction with Daniel, and he's actively trying to resist his inclination. He, and Ulyssess, work best under the order of someone else. So too does the courier. Of course, this is all pure speculation, and you could argue all day that "well MY courier would do x, y ,z" and you'd have just as much legitimacy as I do, which is to say none at all. The Courier is a wild card, after all.

>>16493841

That is true, there s a wild card, and that's kind of the point of a wild card ending, whatever you want to say what your courier does, after all, is said and done, after making your own state, who's to say that courier doesn't somehow to open up negotiations, with the NCR or legion, since legate actually admits to respecting the courier, and would gladly want to see them again, if you want my opinion the wild card ending is the laziest, because it ends like a choose your own adventure ending, I wish the DLC was thrown into it after they were all beaten it opens up way more interesting ending, but it instead ends in a half ass way basiclly telling you, (You choose how it ends.) Fuck off man, that's just lazy writing.

>>16493875

It's an afterthought ending. That's exactly what the developers said it was. It's just a way for a genocide run character to complete the game. This is why it's never really given any focus when arguing.

DLC is best left as its own thing. The only one that could have any serious impact is Old World Blues, and really that's not meant to be taken so seriously either. They're all a great Sub-Plot quest, but that's about it.

>>16493810

>so who's to say the player character couldn't do and the same

That's a complete cop-out. I could say "And then the courier went to the NCR and killed everyone there as well", but that doesn't make the ending itself any better. If it wasn't possible in the actual game then why would I think of it as something the Courier would do?

>the ends need to be justfied if you leave the planet only to be doomed to repeat the past would only result us falling back onto the same issues and it could be even worse the second time around

There's no indication that House would repeat said mistakes. Furthermore, until 76 made nukes a fucking toy nobody had a desire to keep using them.

I don't see it possibly getting any worse short of House going crazy, and then the Courier would just kill him easy as he could in-game and replace it with Yes-Man. No way anyone would get rid of that ace up their sleeve regardless of how loyal they are to House.

>>16493886

Yeah, pretty much.

>>16493716

PA in F3 and NV is literally only a few points higher, as far as DT/DR than the combat armor, ranger armor being a type of combat armor. And Elite Riot Gear literally has the same DT as T45, except it's medium weight, and requires no PA training

>>16493889

Because, New Vegas is based on the Fallout 3 Engine, and you can't simulate political changes that aren't prescripted unless you change it completely. Also, the Courier didn't have an army of fuck off robots, and you actually do all the work to get everyone on board.

Basically, Independent should just be headcanon depending on the courier. Ideally, Fallout New Vegas would have been Mount and Blade with guns and squad tactics, and all the political mechanics necessary to simulate your rise to power would be there. But, New Vegas was rushed by Bethedsa and forced into FO3's framework. So, fuck it.

>>16493484

The whole point of a RPG like Fallout is that you're sort of writing your own story. Every playthrough of Fallout and even Elder Scrolls is essentially the player writing in their OC into the world created by the Devs. If you don't like that, then go play Witcher. (This is why I despised Fallout 4 upon announcement. A set backstory and voiced protagonist basically ruined that.)

Yes, a lot of people will try to create overly idealistic endings, but the real challenge in my opinion is to ground yourself and have your character struggle or even fail to achieve their goals. Like my 'Courier restores America' idea. You can easily have said character fuck up and either get steamrolled by the NCR/Legion or become a tinpot dictator of a rump state pretending to be a continuation of the United States.

And, the Courier might succeed. It all depends on the character the player created.

>>16493532

I meant vipers from v15, yes; mistook them with an irrelevant gang from New Vegas.

It was indeed a shitpost, since most if not all of the 87 tribes Legion subjugated were also subhumans with no notable achievements other than nigging around.

Legion assimilation at least repurposes them, NCR left niggers like Khans alive to not only give legion propaganda fuel over "muh bitter springs, dem womyn and chillunz" but the khans repay the debt of being allowed to exist by seeking to join Legion and supplying insane rapists and murderers with drugs that make them stronger and even more insane.

>>16479167

Seconding these.

>>16477474

>lmgtfy.com

>muh snarky passive aggressive reddit humor

You have to go back.

>>16495353

I'd sooner split it as

>The Original Trilogy

1

2

New Vegas

>The Brotherhood of Steel Spinoff series:

Tactics

BOS

3

>Todd, what the fuck?:

4

76

Whatever comes next

>>16495353

Fallout 3 is only marginally better than 4 in terms of writing. The gameplay still retaining some complexity is the only reason it hasn't been cosigned to the same garbage heap.

>>16495383

I can agree on that, since new vegas actually follows the actual lore.

>>16495353

Searching for meaning where there isn't. F3 was not an indie game like F1. It was a revival of a cult classic made by one of the largest rpg game companies at the time. New Vegas is nothing like 2, and wasn't even made by Bethesda (and the criticisms of two are far greater than of NV, so much that even the developers of NV kept the mistakes they made in 2 in mind to avoid making them again). Really, the only valuable comparison is that of 4-Tactics and 76-BoS. Even then, it's only from a broad fan reaction and not so much actual production (as both BoS and Tactics were outsourced to other teams and companies while mainline Interplay worked on V13 and Van Buren). The most you could take away from this; never ever ever invest time and money in making a single-player RPG series multiplayer. That was the downfall of Interplay, and is proving to be the downfall of Bethesda/Zenimax.

>>16495600

>New Vegas is nothing like 2

>Even tho it's made largely by the same people, expanding on the story and lore of F2 Directly

>>16495353

>fallout 3 and 4

>not utter guttertrash in every aspect

No Fallout 4 isn't just a bad Fallout game, its just a bad game.

>>16495681

Correct, but we're talking about how the game is perceived in the eyes of (((Gaming Journalists))) and normals

>>16495648

Context you retard. F2 was a direct sequel made largely by the same group of people as F1. NV was a direct sequel to F2 and not F3 written by a different group of people than F3.

>>16495688

Who gives a shit about those, especially here?

>>16495693

F3 is a direct sequel to F2, and NV is a questionably canon spin off to F3 :)

>>16495699

Nobody said anything about caring, I'm just laying out the outlook of the franchise, thru the eyes of the majority aka who actually matters

>>16495600

>Interplay

>indie

You're a fucking ignorant retard. Educate yourself.

>>16495699

Because they influence the companies through money and influence. Like it or not, they have more collective power than we do. Recognizing what they respond to is a way to understand why they continue making the decisions they make. Very few companies are fully dumb, their priorities are just different. I wouldn't call Pagliarulo, Howard, or Hines dumb. I'd call them shysters.

>>16495737

Misspoke. It was a new direction for Interplay, while Bethesda made its name on RPGs. It was a huge risk for Interplay branching into a new genre with a new ip, not so much for Bethesda expanding their IP catalog with a proven IP in a genre they were big in.

>>16495775

It wasn't a new direction. Interplay had made RPGs before. They money, manpower, and connections. They published games for other studios, which at that point means they aren't indie. Fallout 1 had god damn CINEMATICS. in 1997. That's as close to AAA as games could get back then. It was a major game, made by a major company.

>>16477455

>New Vegas Uncut

Adds some small pieces of cut content back into the game.

>The Strip Open

>Freeside Open

Adds more clutter and NPC's back in that were cut for performance reasons.

>Caesars New Regime

>Factions Reloaded - Legion

For more Legion stuff, which is pretty bare bones in the vanilla game.

>Autumn Leaves

Good story mod, basically an unofficial DLC.

If you want fixes check the rest of the thread.

>>16495938

>Reddit Leaves

Shit mod, Shit plot, "Hilarious" and "Heartwarming" writing

That asshole cowboy robot was kinda cool, if he was a companion, that would have salvaged it

>>16495534

New Vegas sans the foundation of Fallout 3 would have been another Alpha Protocol. The same great writing and player choice, but barely-competent gameplay on an even shakier bedrock. Obsidian has always had eager developers but terrible management and questionable action chops. They simply wouldn't have be able to put together a 3D open world of the same scope and caliber without Fallout 3 to build off of.

>>16495935

The main difference between Interplay and Bethesda which is the most important distinction here, is that they made most of their cash from licensed games and other series before taking the risk with Fallout. By the time F3 was released, Bethesda had a hugely successful series of Action-RPGS that became their bread and butter, and they had secured the rights to a hugely successful series of RPGs. They are in no way comparable to each other. Interplay had three RPG series at the time; Wasteland (which they lost the rights to 8 years prior to Fallout) Bards Tale (which they stopped making after 1986, 10 years prior) and the financial disaster that was Stonekeep. Compare that to Bethesda, hot off the success of Oblivion, with a track record of successful RPGs dating 10 years.

>>16495938

>>The Strip Open

>>Freeside Open

Don't this, it fuck with missions, mods and performance. Just don't.

>>16496088

Only if you're a complete nooblet and don't know a thing about dealing with the GECK

Also, many mods have patches for these 2

>>16495984

My point, which you aren't addressing, was that Interplay was not an indie company, nor Fallout 1 an indie sized project. It had the scope, budget, and manpower to defy being classified as an indie game. And Interplay was able to shoulder the endeavor.

>>16496102

Sorry I don't know how to tard wrangle bethesda's dogshit engine.

>>16481752

paul newman was jewish you retard

>>16496187

And I said in my second post that I had misspoke. It's an apples to oranges comparison with Interplay and Bethesda when it comes to f1 and f3. Two different situations entirely as I have explained further.

>>16495353

>attempting to make le cycles meme

faggots like you belong on the cross

>>16495588

>They turned Fallout into a franchise more casual than it ever was before.

I've only just made the realization.

>>16493639

I wonder if Caesar read Evola since he really seems to be influenced by him

>>16493639

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(Roman_army)

obligatory tales of two wastelands mention.

>>16499092

Who doesn't like redheads? But the point I was going for is that I hadn't realized that Who Framed Roger Rabbit famous song was also re-used in NV.

>>16484152

At least he teaches you good crafting recipies

>>16506327

Disregard politics, acquire caps, claim the stars. While other facts play old world dress-up, House has actual Old World know how. Reminder that by the end of the game, House both respects and fears you.

>>16506327

but I went House in my last run faggot

>>16506538

oh look at that bootlicking faggot

>>16511983

Best I can tell he's just kvetching about old games having misogyny.

>fallout

back to 4cuck with you

>>16512023

I know but I just want to call out it out. When did devs like this go out into the deep end?

>>16512040

>When did devs like this go out into the deep end?

I'm not sure. I like to hope that they don't truly believe bullshit like that, but they're just adapting to the changing climate. You can't really fit in anymore in game development anymore unless you virtue signal at every available opportunity.

>>16512058

Imagine Avellone one day going on Keto and writing about the strengths of a conservative society.

>>16512075

>Imagine Avellone one day going on Keto and writing about the strengths of a conservative society

Keto?

The only Keto I know of is the diet, and I don't even really know what that is either.

>>16512644

He probably got shived by an unknown assiliant who took his government issued gun, badge, uniform and fiat money and his dying thoughs were

>At least we respect women.

His wife and kids were raped by unknown assailant later the same day.

It was either Cook cook or nephi raped literally everything he got his dick on.

>playing through Fallout 4 for the first time

>those improved models and animations

>that actual polish to everything

<that elimination of skills completely

<that elimination of various perks in favor of a super linear "perk tree"

<that forced voiced protag that limits you to only 4 dialogue options always and often says something completely different from what you picked

<that casualization

Fucking why.

>>16512740

The models and animations aren't better, they're just covered up by the aggressive fog and post processing effects.

>>16514894

He meant everything being covered in sillicone based lube.

>>16514878

>>16514894

Compared to 3/NV? Yeah, the animations and models are MUCH better.

>>16515039

To be fair, being able to pull out your shotgun mid conversation was a genuine upgrade over F3/NV

>>16516796

True but that's not why he wanted it.

>>16516820

Why the hell did they do that, anyway? It seems like it would have taken less work to animate righthanded guns

>>16516827

"Cool" devs want players to see flying casings, I think bethesda reached new depths of ineptitude.

>>16517788

>-Develops technology

Name 1 original development of Neutered Cuckold Republic.

>>16517788

Any advantage they may or may not have is negated by that they're feminist bureaucrats. They're going to end up just as bad as modern governments, and they're already corrupt to begin with.

>>16517815

They have their own in-house science department nigger. What the fuck does CL have?

>>16517825

>feminist bureaucrats

Calling them feminist is going too far. They're a meritocracy, and it turns out a gun is a gun no regardless of which gender is holding it.

>>16517788

> -Cares for its citizens, offers aid programs to sustain them even outside of their firmly held territory

Lol

>>16517831

They're the same bullshit "equality" feminists that we saw for decades in reality. That the game plays along and makes women and men completely identical because the developers believe in leftist ideologies doesn't help their case.

>it turns out a gun is a gun no regardless of which gender is holding it.

Yeah, that's why women perform identical to men in the military. Right, you brain dead leftist?

All of the factions are good factions, and the only logical conclusion is the unification of a federation, an alliance of disparate ideologies, an Axis if you will.

>>16517831

>What the fuck does CL have?

Unorinocally healing powder and they don't waste time and resources on niggers like Fantastic.

>and it turns out a gun is a gun no regardless of which gender is holding it.

How come completely equal NCR soldiers keep getting raped by drug addicts or legionnaires?

>>16517849

Anon, paying civillians to stir shit in territories you need a casus beli to "liberate" is a sign of the best faction (^:

>>16517849

>Lol

t. retard who didn't play the game

They have a refugee center (Aerotech Office Park) specifically set up for NCR citizens and are running a risky aid program for their citizens in Freeside, in secret mind you because Freeside is hostile to the NCR.

NPCs even talk about welfare programs they run back in their territory.

Fucking mongoloid.

>>16517855

>Yeah, that's why women perform identical to men in the military.

The gap in military performance is due to women's lack of physical prowess, not their inability to handle a gun. When you're a post-apocalyptic army you can't afford to be choosy about who you have fight for you.

>you brain dead leftist?

I get it kid, you browse /pol/. Take a fucking breather.

>>16517869

>Unorinocally healing powder

lol

>and they don't waste time and resources on niggers like Fantastic

No, instead they waste time and resources keeping decrepit old men like Caesar alive long past his expiration date.

<Henceforth no member of Caesar's Legion will use advanced technology or medicine!

<except me lol i get my own auto-doc and a displacer glove :^)

>How come completely equal NCR soldiers keep getting raped by drug addicts or legionnaires?

Such is life in the Mojave.

>>16517868

>All of the factions are good factions,

CL is legitimately not a good faction, they have basically no redeeming qualities. They're a byproduct of Obsidian being rushed and Bethesda's desire for a clear-cut villain faction with no shades of grey.

They were intended to have more subtleties to their character, but as it stands now they're just another Raider faction that wipes out settlements in a territory they are trying to acquire for some reason.

>>16517870

>When you're a post-apocalyptic army you can't afford to be choosy about who you have fight for you.

How come Legion can BTFO them easily with only men, on top of being able to use decimation as a means of discipline?

>>16517870

If you're post-apocalyptic, sending your women out to die is the least smart thing you can do. Funny how your argument suddenly changed from "there's no difference between the sexes when holding a gun!" to "you have to use women in the military when it's post-apocalypse". But you've already proven that you're a brainwashed leftist, so no amount of logic or reason will ever make you change your mind. I'm going to stop giving your retarded ass attention now.

>>16517907

>How come Legion can BTFO them easily with only men,

That's the thing, they can't. The narrative is totally at odds with the realities of the game world. In a fight of a squad of 3 NCR soldiers versus 3 Legionnaires, the NCR always win. The service rifle is actually pretty good and most of the Legionnaires using melee weapons means they're dead before they can close in.

All the shit about Legion beating NCR takes place purely in the narrative. Anytime you see the two factions fight in-game, NCR comes out on top.

>>16517915

>I'm going to stop giving your retarded ass attention now.

Good, shut the fuck up and go back to /pol/ you goofy faggot. I'm tired of your dumb ass getting my points wrong anyway.

>>16517928

>All the shit about Legion beating NCR takes place purely in the narrative. Anytime you see the two factions fight in-game, NCR comes out on top.

You say this because you're fucking retarded, what you don't seem to understand is that wars aren't totally fought in open combat on flat ground in which you see the enemy coming. Searchlight alone should be proof the NCR are incompetent fuckers, two legionaries sneaking in at night managed to wipe out an entire fucking NCR town effectively. On top of that, tons of couriers in NCR territory are legion spies the NCR has no clue about, further on top of that, Camp fucking McCarran has a legion spy among its officers sending every piece of intelligence he can get his hands on out to the Legion to set ambushes and they have no clue who it is. They're even so fucking retarded they put the spy in charge of catching the spy. In case that wasn't enough, a patrol station full of rangers gets slaughtered by legionaries in no time out near Novac. Further examples of this is that we know the Legion is manipulating some local groups and gangs like the Fiends and the Khans so the NCR is fighting all of these factions at the same time because they're far too fucking stupid to manage to not piss off every group they meet, but still insist on letting them go so they can fuck them over later.

Sure, guns are great when you fight in an open environment during the day with no cover, and sure plenty of legionaries are dumb enough to do just that, but this is at least in part a limitation of the AI being unable to path or unable to use cover or planning effectively. Try putting on legion armor and pulling out a melee weapon against a few NCR soldiers sometime, I guarantee you'll find it a fucking joke to deal with 5.56 from the service rifle and slice their heads clean off.

>>16517870

>They have a refugee center (Aerotech Office Park) specifically set up for NCR citizens and are running a risky aid program for their citizens in Freeside, in secret mind you because Freeside is hostile to the NCR.

>a refugee center

>it's full of trash, chem addicts, and chem pushers

>next to no NCR presence to defend it or manage it at all

>there is literally one fucking guy inside to manage it, and he's an emotionally unstable and incompetent retard who will shoot you dead for a single perceived insult

>it's basically just a few ruined buildings with a wall people go to sleep in

>a risky aid program

>the risk involved only exists because they cannot stop waving their dicks in everyone's faces and pissing them off

>go into a new region, demand tax money, demand respect, demand rights and special treatment

>get told to fuck off

>don't, and instead being attacking local citizens or denying them resources they used to have access to

>provoke House to be more selective about letting people into the strip as a result, and the Kings to do things like charge for water

>"wow what the fuck, why do they all hate us now?!??"

>"it's okay lol we set up an aid program to provide small amounts of food, surely that will make things easier for our citizens and make it totally less likely that they'll get the shit beaten out of them by locals"

Truly, the NCR does the work of heroes.

>>16518078

this, holy crap you faggots have an entire site, and a youre whole board here

>implying 4cuck/tv/, /lit/, /gif/ ect aren't commie controlled, probably 4cuck/v/ too

>>16495648

>it's made largely by the same people

Anon please don't fall for Obsidian's marketing. The only people of substance they had who worked on both were Avellone and Scott Everts and Avellone had a greatly diminished role compared to 2.

>>16512644

Seriously where are the mods

Also here's something neat I just found https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66511

No voice clips sadly

>>16517831

>unironically defending demographic suicide

wewlad. You can make the case for "who cares women can pull a trigger too" on modern days because demographics at war aren't a problem (and even then, battles are not just point and shoot, not to mention entire campaigns), but if you put the NCR terrible logistics and factually proven low performance from mixed regiments, against the legion, who keeps popping out babies and absorbing more and more tribes, ideals and who's best aside, it is no wonder they are winning.

Modded Skyrim > Any of tyour shitty modded games

>>16495534

>bethesda sabotaged new vegas every step of the way

I suppose they also sabotaged kotor as well.

>>16519150

>tags: anime

>>16522078

>You also find out in the ending that he showers the Courier with rewards for being productive.

<Mr. House afforded her every luxury at his disposal in the Lucky 38, out of gratitude - and a quiet sense of pride for his choice in lieutenants.

He just lets you live it up in the Lucky 38 like you were already doing between assignments. He doesn't pay you a dime for anything other than bringing him the platinum chip.

>>16517928

>All the shit about Legion beating NCR takes place purely in the narrative. Anytime you see the two factions fight in-game, NCR comes out on top.

The Legion's organization is based on the Maniple. Those recruits with machetes aren't meant to be a serious force, they're supposed to either die or prove themselves.

The Triarii (Veteran Legionaries) are much better equipped than NCR troops and the Centurions are on par with the Rangers.

And to even get to Veteran Legionary, you have to be strong enough, fanatical enough, and smart enough to somehow manage to kill someone holding a service rifle with nothing a machete.

NCR troops actually getting killed by machetes just proves how shit the NCR training is.

Also, what >>16517989 said.

The Legion's special operations are miles ahead of the NCR.

While the NCR is sitting on their asses and asking the courier to solve their problems, Legion is massacring entire towns behind the front line, conducting information warfare, and setting up fifth columns right outside the NCR's headquarters.

>>16517788

>Work for wastelanders

Ah yes, subsistence farming/sharecropping where they mostly ignore the complaints of the farmers and are too retarded to check the groundwater for impurities. Or as many people have mentioned, giving essential jobs to smooth talking morons like Mr. Fantastic.

>Develops technology

Reverse engineering Enclave and Brotherhood tech isnt development/

>Cares for its citizens and offers aid programs

More like they push refugees into Freeside to try and establish a foreign element that can be used to solidify NCR hegemony into the region. There's a reason House only spares the Kings if you convince them to remove NCR

>>16517928

> at odds with the realities of the game world

Are you one of the retards who uses "the courier can stop time therefore yes man is the best ending"?

>>16522452

Reverse engineering implies maintaining the technological level and reproduction as well as sidegrading and real world examples of China could be used as agruments that RE is a form of development

The word I have for what NCR does is "nigging" feel free to offer better one.

>have a pre-war suit of powerarmor that does movement for you, has air conditioning, gets rid of bodily waste in efficient and clean way

>it's also extremely resistant to conventional firearms, makes one impervious to melee and offers solid defense against energy weapons

<hurr, bix nood les remov dem servos,

<ayo gibs me dats vertiburds and shieet moffuga.

>>16522428

>Those recruits with machetes aren't meant to be a serious force, they're supposed to either die or prove themselves.

<Yes we will become stronger by throwing 90% of our men at people using sniper rifles and machine guns with nothing more than a lawn mower blade and hope that maybe two or three out of thousands survive being shot twenty to thirty times to hit a guy with a lawn mower blade to get promoted to actually get armed with a weapon worth a shit

Yeah real great ideas there especially when you lose because your ideology is fucking stupid and your tribals run into a city rigged to blow and then you get covered in pitch, set on fire, and thrown off a cliff because your leader is a moron with a brain tumor.

>>16522491

That tactical mistake has nothing to do with ideology, brain tumors, or equipment.

The Legion could have easily won the first battle of Hoover Dam.

>>16517903

>but as it stands now they're just another Raider faction that wipes out settlements in a territory they are trying to acquire for some reason.

Well to be fair they actually have a reason Caesar wants Vegas to be his Rome. Because Caesar is a retard with a huge ego and thinks having a nice big city will fix all the problems with the gaggle of retarded faggots he created.

>>16522517

>The Legion could have easily won the first battle of Hoover Dam.

From what you actually see in game they really shouldn't have even come close since in the actual game the only time they ever win anything is when they sneak some guys into a place to fuck it up. They never actually win a fair fight against anyone in the entire game outside of lore stuff that you only ever hear about and never see.

>>16522491

>NCR calling anyone's faction leader a moron

a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

>>16522567

They are both morons which was kind of the whole point I think.

>>16522581

Legion isn't retarded enough to have Caesar hold ceremonies in the middle of hostile territory, unless NCR army is trying to get Kimball killed to gain public support for continuing campaign for mojave.

>>16522617

>Legion isn't retarded enough to have Caesar hold ceremonies in the middle of hostile territory

Why would the Legion hold ceremonies most of them don't live long enough to even get a real weapon and not something they pulled out of a broken down machine. They also tend to just fucking murder everyone and burn everything of value so yeah Legion looking real smart.

>>16522649

> burn everything of value

>city of literal whores, gonorrhea and powder gangers was a diverse and vibrant community destroyed by neonazis from legion

>larping niggers mad that someone larps better than them, repeated 87 times

>>16522528

I see your point, but lore is a better representation than buggy combat with bad AI.

I find it hypocritical when you talk about the lore in your previous post, but then move to goal posts to the shitty combat.

>>16522528

gee how come initiate legionaires can't run straight into gunfire and club them to death on a game with notoriously bad ai/panthfinding?

Notice how all legion skirmishes mentioned in game after the first battle of the dam are ambushes, traps, nuclear terrorism, sabotage, etc. And it's working really nice for them

>>16522581

You can say what you want about muh rome but caesar and / or his military leaders really know what they are doing. If the courier doesn't undo all the plots and plans from the legion, ncr has already lost the mojave by the time you leave goodsprings

>>16478427

Every ENB looks like shit.

>>16523123

Which mod?

Anyone know how it holds up on 360? I kind of want to play it on my CRT and it goes for under $10 on ebay.

>>16538205

It works though if you play 1.0 (unpatched release version) having Legend of the Star at a certain stage will freeze the game when trying to enter the strip

>>16538211

Did the updates make it worse? I already have all the DLC copied to my HDD so I'll have to update it for that.

>>16538220

Updates fixed the game so it doesn't have any huge bugs like that

>>16477843

I tried with Caesar, the only based faction but then said fuck it and went on a Tarrant

Is Fallout1/2 discussion allowed or is this thread only about shitty non-Fallout Bethesda rip-offs?

>>16548204

You're already fitting in well enough, there's no need to go overboard by being a contrarian faggot.

>>16548204

As long as you can start an argument you can talk about whatever you want.

>>16478490

><NCR ENDING IS THE ONLY ONE WHERE COURIER IS DEPICTED AS NEGROID

You don't pick your race at the beginning of the game?

>>16548458

>typical Bethesda

>posing under

<is nothing like typical beth trash

<was made by the original people

kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Also as another Anti-NCR post (I thought everyone here was 100% legion,independent).

REMINDER NCR ending is the only ending where you get CUCKED as in actually cucked. Cass fucks a NCR faggot and courier gets cucked deservedly for being a NCR mutt.

>>16548626

Are you launching the game through nvse_loader.exe?

>>16548609

>only nigger cunts support NCR

Understandable. Might give the game a try.

>>16548484

><was made by the original people

That's why I said it's less shit but it's still a real time FPS for CoDkiddies.

>>16548632

What's the best possible ending for Legion, Boomers and Gunrunners together and the biggest fuck you against NCR without going full-edgy slave-trading political strawman?

>>16553299

You can watch the legion side good karma ending on jewtube

>>16478490

Are the original Black Isle devs redpilled despite being a bunch of mutts and niggers or did their liberal/lolberg cognitive dissonance accidentally redpilled the plot with post-apocalyptic realism because they thought weakness, dysfunctionallity and incompetence would be seen sympathetically?

>>16553391

That was a mess of a post and you should feel bad for fucking up something as simple as "favoritism and bias causes blindness".

>>16553455

His reaction pic is very comfy so I forgive his formatting.

I dunno why, but for the past 5 days my New Vegas was crashing while leaving the game, everytime, before was working perfectly with all my mods.

I downloaded all the anti-crash mods again to fix this problem, not my game is crashing all the time…

>>16569247

I had to compress mods to get below the 125 plugins to avoid all sorts of game breaking issues myself, though the engine seems so unpredictable, you may want to find a way to clean your saves with wrye bash or such, though other anons here probably would know more about this than me.

>>16522524

Waco in a nutshell.

>>16571742

I will format my pc soon and in my next playthrough I will avoid some mods that I used this time and try some different things, Im playing with cowboy character now siding with Mr.House, next will be legion, so my objetive is only to finish New Vegas Bounties because I already ended all vanilla quests

but tranks to the reply, I will probably need to do something like that

My mod list btw

[X] FalloutNV.esm

[X] DeadMoney.esm

[X] HonestHearts.esm

[X] OldWorldBlues.esm

[X] LonesomeRoad.esm

[X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm

[X] ClassicPack.esm

[X] MercenaryPack.esm

[X] TribalPack.esm

[X] CaravanPack.esm

[X] YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm

[X] CompanionInfAmmo.esm

[X] New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm

[X] FCOMaster.esm

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm

[X] FINAL Seachlight Airport NCR.esm

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm

[X] NevadaSkies.esm

[X] SomeguySeries.esm

[ ] Bitter Springs Redesigned.esp

[ ] Gomorrah Redesigned v2.esp

[X] NVStripOpen.esm

[X] NVR-Strip.esm

[X] YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

[X] Centered 3rd Person Camera.esp

[X] NVR-Version_10.esp

[X] Vurt's WFO.esp

[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.esp

[X] New Vegas Redesigned 3.esp

[X] NVFR-NVR-NVTC-Version_2.esp

[X] Respawn System.esp

[X] populatedcasino.esp

[X] Creatures Balance Overhaul.esp

[X] ILO - PipBoy Light.esp

[ ] CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp

[X] ILO - Nevada Skies Patch.esp

[X] ILO - YUP Patch.esp

[X] Lucky 38 Reloading and Cooking.esp

[X] VeronicaFix.esp

[X] pipboyx5.esp

[X] ELECTRO-CITY - Inventory Sorters Compatibility Patch - ElectroCityCATEYEvalue.esp

[X] WMIMNV.esp

[X] EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

[X] All Weapon Sounds Overhaul .esp

[X] CNR_Beta.esp

[X] StripOpenMain.esp

[X] DragsModernGunslinger.esp

[X] LegionLoreFriendly.esp

[X] Better Bosses.esp

[X] FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - All DLC.esp

[X] Legion Outpost.esp

[X] ncrandlegionpatrols.esp

[X] NewVegasBounties.esp

[X] NewVegasBountiesII.esp

[X] NewVegasBountiesIII.esp

[X] IncreasedLegion1_1.esp

[X] FNV NPCs Travel.esp

[X] IMPACT.esp

[X] Weapon Retexture Project.esp

[X] CompanionInfAmmoOptional.esp

[X] housepresence.esp

[X] NukaCola-Ojo.esp

[X] CAGE 1.9.3.2.esp

[X] NVR-NPCs.esp

[X] FasterAccessToLucky38.esp

[X] DragbodysLegionReplacerV01.esp

[X] LegionGladiatorPA.esp

[X] UnlimitedCompanions.esp

[X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

[X] Sprint Mod.esp

[X] khanpresence.esp

[X] updatedWearGlassesandMasks.esp

[X] SpawnTerminal.esp

[X] SpawnTerminalDLC.esp

[X] CaesarPreset(CNR Version).esp

[ ] Lanius Unleashed European Extreme.esp

[X] Psycho and Slasher Bonus Damage Fix.esp

[X] ItemBrowser.esp

[X] 5.56DTBalance.esp

[X] sec fix 4.esp

[X] Ranger Sequoia.esp

[X] Medicine Stick.esp

[X] Fatman.esp

[X] Esther.esp

[X] Fatman (GRA).esp

[X] Remnants Power Armor.esp

[X] Remnants Power Helmet.esp

[X] Remmants Tesla Armor.esp

[X] Remmants Tesla Helmet.esp

[X] Gannon Family Tesla Armor.esp

[X] Gannon Family Tesla Helmet.esp

[X] Giant Yao Guai.esp

[X] J.Graham's Armor.esp

[X] T-45d Power Armor.esp

[X] T-45d Powe Helmet.esp

[X] T-51b Power Armor.esp

[X] T-51b Power Helmet.esp

[X] Legate's Armor.esp

[X] Legate Helmet.esp

[X] Brotherhood T-51b PowerArmor.esp

[X] Brotherhood T-45b Power Armor.esp

[X] Legion Praetorian Armor.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 2.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 3.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 4.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 5.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 6.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 7.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Paladin 8.esp

[X] Brotherhood Of Steel Paladin Mojave.esp

[X] EdgarHardin.esp

[X] Ramos.esp

[X] Brotherhood of Steel Knight.esp

[X] Elder McNamara.esp

[X] Orion Moreno.esp

[X] Outer Vegas Defender 1.esp

[X] Outer Vegas Defender 2.esp

[X] NCR Ranger Veteran.esp

[X] NCR Ranger Veteran 2.esp

[X] NCR Ranger Veteran 3.esp

[X] NCR Ranger Veteran 4.esp

[X] NCR Ranger Veteran 5.esp

[X] SubtitlesHotkeyNV.esp

[X] YUP-CNR.esp

[X] Unofficial Patch NVSE.esp

[X] Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp

[X] ILO - GS Shack.esp

[ ] NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp

[X] NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

[ ] NevadaSkies - Basic Edition.esp