This trilogy was so fucking mismanaged. Zero Gravity had some neat ideas but the execution fell flat just about everywhere. If handled right and not ending on a Kinect-exclusive, this could've had some real potential. Maybe even being capable of rivaling M

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Anonymous 05/09/19 (Thu) 21:46:07 8f0b16 No.16451611

This trilogy was so fucking mismanaged. Zero Gravity had some neat ideas but the execution fell flat just about everywhere. If handled right and not ending on a Kinect-exclusive, this could've had some real potential. Maybe even being capable of rivaling Mario Kart.

Anonymous 05/09/19 (Thu) 22:29:44 c4a2e1 No.16451856

>[Sonic game] was so fucking mismanaged.[Sonic game] had some neat ideas but the execution fell flat just about everywhere. If handled right and not [Stupid Forced Sonic Gimmick], this could've had some real potential. Maybe even being capable of [Ideallistic Furfag Utopia]

Anonymous 05/09/19 (Thu) 22:44:54 8f398c No.16451915

>When you enjoy all sonic games, even the bad ones like Dark Brotherhood and Black Knight but also enjoy more obscure ones like Rush and Advance

Sonic is a wild ride of games

Anonymous 05/09/19 (Thu) 22:45:15 dfac1d No.16451918

>>16451856

>[Sega] was so fucking mismanaged.[Sega] had some neat ideas but the execution fell flat just about everywhere. If handled right and not [Stupid Forced Sega Gimmick], this could've had some real potential. Maybe even being capable of [porting Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown]

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 02:43:53 dd9f25 No.16452565

It wasn't even the first time SEGA fucked up trying to jump on a new motion controls bandwagon. They split the '06 team up so make Secret Rings, which led to '06 getting fucked hard in dev, while Secret Rings was awful just because of the motion controls.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 02:50:43 ea78b0 No.16452590

>>16451890

>Yoshi

>Donkey Kong

>Bowser

>not furfag staples

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 03:03:23 0ac329 No.16452626

>>16451918

Lemme try.

>[Jet Set Radio] was so fucking mismanaged. [Future] had some neat ideas but the execution fell flat just about everywhere. If handled right and not [giving it next-to-no advertisement because WE GOTTA SELL SA2'S GAMECUBE PORT], this could've had some real potential. Maybe even being capable of [living to make another game]

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 06:31:15 e3fed6 No.16453174

I think the biggest sin of the first game (haven't played the others, but repeatedly return to the first) is that it doesn't really tell you how to do a lot of it's tricks or mechanics. To get true extreme air, you gotta charge a jump, and then right before charging the jump slows you down you have to boost, then let go just as you hit a ramp. It's kinda wonky, especially figuring out the spacing (can't start too early or too late), but satisfying to pull off. Other things like timing inputs for grinding, why levelling through ring collection is important, and generally how to conserve air are not well explained at all. I can appreciate a game that doesn't hold your hand to figure out how it works, but I feel like the basics aren't covered and is a likely reason people never got into it.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 11:13:37 8027c4 No.16453653

>>16451918

>>16452626

you fucked up. you already substituted the words for the placeholders.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 15:33:46 719dca No.16454169

To be honest Sonic Riders is the only good game in that trilogy.

Zero Gravity's gimmick shat on every thing the previous game had that was fun and I wouldn't touch a kinect game with a lightyear long pole.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 15:36:01 b73caa No.16454174

What am I missing with Sonic? I like the gameplay but it has the same issue as a lot of GBA games where the screen feels like it's zoomed in too much to the point that it's difficult to react through levels.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 15:59:42 724995 No.16454230

>>16454174

you're missing having memorized the level layouts

but lightning reflexes will get you through it too

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 16:18:19 ef8e13 No.16454281

>>16454174

>GBA

Sega does what Nintendon't. The best Sonic games are the ones on actual Sega consoles. Play those.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 16:29:36 b73caa No.16454309

>>16454281

Is Sonic even on the GBA? I'm just saying what I played of Sonic 1 reminds me of small screen size like say Mega Man Zero. Excellent, fast paced gameplay, but the screen size should have been zoomed out like 15% and it would have been perfect.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 17:04:07 5030ba No.16454390

>>16451611

Just like the rest of the sonic series. Segas retarded next

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 17:10:10 6a2715 No.16454408

>>16451856

>>16451611

>>16453174

It could have been like SSX or Tony Hawk, but it failed at both.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 17:15:13 913f50 No.16454423

>>16452565

I thought that was because Yuji Naka left the team mid development and they had no idea what to do.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 17:16:04 913f50 No.16454427

>>16451611

So is the first one the only good one? Or should I emulate the second one.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 18:04:51 ebb6eb No.16454590

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>>16454309

>Is Sonic even on the GBA?

How underaged are you? And please refrain from some bullshit excuse like

>im a europoor from [former soviet bloc nation] so we didn't have [large recognized game franchise]

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 18:22:45 ecd60b No.16454646

>>16454174

Play Mania. It has widescreen.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 19:20:57 bcfe7b No.16454926

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>>16454427

Second one has some strong merits. But it's so different you're better off just assuming it's a completely different game. It has its own objective flaws. In many people's opinion it makes many problems from the original worse by having a more intrusive gimmick. Trading off any and all other unique additions for this new feature.

The Zero Gravity does fucking nothing to fix the originals flaws. It just throws itself at a new gimmick that's so all consuming it takes everything else that was neat about the original with it. So if you want to have a good time. Try not to compare it to the original. It'll only make you bitter why the few things Zero Gravity does right is not on the original and to a more extreme extent why anything from the original wasn't improved on or included at all.

TL;DR - "It's different" is the nicest thing I can say about it.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 19:33:30 42592b No.16454964

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>Sonic Riders 1

>rather well built

>air control and unique riders abilities allow you to use any character to max potential and win

>Zero gravity

>focuses on the drifting mechanic

<doesn't do much else

<multiplayer is nearly useless because of it

<story is so lame no one even remembers it

>Free riders

<kinect exclusive so it dies before it even starts, being miscarried harder than loss

It sucks, I loved the first one.

Anonymous 05/10/19 (Fri) 22:15:35 5934a6 No.16455640

>>16454423

It was both, those two reasons don't contradict each other. Being forced to ship it out on new hardware they had no experience with on a degline that eschewed proper QA testing was the final nail in that coffin as well. They even missed the 2006 deadline for the PS3 version which was delayed to Jan 2007 with cut dlc, leaving only the Super Hard Mode available (unlike the X360 version which got that and additional boss and team attack amigo dlc) because it flat out didn't work at all on Sony's consolw until then.

Anonymous 05/11/19 (Sat) 00:03:43 8027c4 No.16455913

>>16454964

>>Sonic Riders 1

I always hated the stupid spin the analog stick sequences (the stream in the jungle level). getting the max speed possible there was a bitch. Also fuck the announcer ("X is losing momentum" constantly).

Anonymous 05/11/19 (Sat) 00:20:10 dd9f25 No.16455951

>>16454646

There's also Sonic 3 AIR, which is S3&K with widescreen support and other goodies. All it needs is a combined rom of S3&K.

Anonymous 05/13/19 (Mon) 15:43:45 4aec36 No.16464273

>>16454590

>Remembering trash games

lol

Anonymous 05/13/19 (Mon) 19:43:14 8e21a0 No.16464943

>>16454964

The mechanics in Zero Gravity were dumbed down too, the timing to get an SS on a ramp is extremely easy compared to the original.

Also using the gravity mechanic is actually detrimental because the alternate paths are slower than just not taking them.