277f92 No.16433570
>Cross play being evaluated
Who else looking forward to seeing console kids lose at their own game. There is literally no way controller players could handle vs PC + Mouse
http://archive.is/vP3TD
4c3f20 No.16433604
>>16433570
Perhaps the crossplay will be for certain game modes like on Gears 4 (horde mode). The campaigns and firefight could have crossplay, tbh.
c36837 No.16433616
Man I can't wait to see Xfag tears when mouse and keyboard shit stomp their gay little magnetic autoaim
16a95b No.16433620
I have already heard my Halo friends being buttmad about this inevitability, hopefully soon I can get to see what actually happens when 343I Finishes this Flight
56682f No.16433628
There aren't headshots in Halo unless it's a Sniper. So I don't get it at all. Aiming at Halo is fucking easy. There is even a hard autoaim.
56682f No.16433634
>>16433628
Forgot about Reach had DMR and BR. But anyway, I always found aiming at Halo stupidly easy.
fe6d29 No.16433635
>>16433616
>He doesn't know they've been salty about it for years and call it cheating whenever someone uses it in a game, be it native or with one of those adaptors.
fe6d29 No.16433637
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>>16433635
Forgot to embed.
f3bdc9 No.16433645
Crossplay likely means Microcock controlled servers because it's (((Absolutely Necessary for the Technology))) unless, in some unfathomable leap of not being colossal shitheads microsoft does let people host dedicated servers.
f3bdc9 No.16433649
>>16433628
Kinda gonna disagree with you on that, most weapons can headshot, and what's cancer is autoaim magnetizes towards the torso
30979b No.16433684
>>16433645
did you not read the whole thing about allowing people to host their own servers? i doubt the would work with the eljewrito fags to give full mod support if the game runs only on microsoft servers
4d19eb No.16433689
>>16433684
Wait, there's going to be mod support for this?
246d2c No.16433690
>>16433637
>Keyboard and Mouse has been around on consoles for a long time
Yes, but it was only ever done properly once with the Dreamcast and UT/QIIIA. It's been either unsupported or hacked in by third parties ever since because nobody has the balls to just tell people that if you want to play competitively, you should be expected to use the tools available that will allow you to compete. If you want to use controllers, then that's fine - but turn off the auto-aim. Once auto-aim is involved, you're using built-in cheats and the whole concept of competitive play goes out the fucking window.
30979b No.16433695
>>16433628
yes, full mod support, community servers, FOV sliders, all the default PC game options, forge with more shit added to it, custom maps
f3bdc9 No.16433696
>>16433684
Look, after hearing that microsoft apparently is going to start gassing their customers over voip that they have no legal control over, I can't honestly think microsoft would do the intelligent things and say
<HEY KIDDOS, YOU KNOW HOW HALO IS ON PC NOW? WELL, THEY CAN USE THEIR MAGIC COMPUTER BOXES, AND YOU CAN PLAY ON THEIR SERVERS WITH MOOOOOODS, AND IT'S FREEEEE
I mean come on man I have to be realistic here, microsoft has been charging people to host their own servers since like, 2001.
45d4bc No.16433707
>>16433628
>not knowing 4 tap BR headshots
Retard nigger pleb
30979b No.16433716
>>16433696
>I have to be realistic
This isnt about you
f3bdc9 No.16433722
>>16433716
referring into the context of my earlier statement.
da12ce No.16433726
>>16433637
> 12 minutes of console salt
Glorious.
b318ba No.16433731
Since the problem lies only on the user interface, why don't they just separate controller and KB+M players into different rooms?
c01b92 No.16433733
Didn't they already learn this lesson with shadowrun where every PC player would stomp in every xbox 360 player's ass with a iron boot?
425ed5 No.16433735
>>16433579
This is the only type of crossplay I think of whenever it's brought up. I know there is a - between cross and play but I thought they stopped using that term when its associated with crossplay.
da12ce No.16433740
>>16433733
Yep, even after they continued to nerf PC players by giving them zero auto-aim and worse spread, and increasing the auto-aim and tracking for console players, nothing could close the skill gap.
It was a slaughter, and you can't spell slaughter without laughter.
30979b No.16433755
>>16433722
Context doesnt matter
246d2c No.16433765
>>16433731
> why don't they just separate controller and KB+M players into different rooms
Because there's no way to enforce it. On the console side, you have a number of different devices like Xim4 that emulate a controller. On the PC side, ScpTools or any number of potential programs that could be written to do the same thing. You can't stop M&KB users to joining "controller only" games, so all they could potentially do is try to ban people for being too good and under suspicion of using M&KB. They couldn't prove it, because if they could tell definitively that you were, they could also identify the problem and block it in software.
So the obvious answer is to just tell people to suck it up and deal with it the same way people deal with players who use steering wheels in racing games, or arcade sticks in fighters. The only difference is that a good quality competitive steering wheel costs a couple hundred bucks, and a good arcade stick somewhere in the ballpark of $100 - while a M&KB costs about $15 and is available literally everywhere.
56682f No.16433787
>>16433765
>2019
>consoles still haven't a native support for keyboard and mouse
They should make A LOT of money from controllers.
6608c3 No.16433803
>>16433690
>Once auto-aim is involved, you're using built-in cheats and the whole concept of competitive play goes out the fucking window.
>There are people that unironically believe this
16a95b No.16433808
>>16433787
>they should make A LOT of money from controllers
Remember when a new controller was $20?
8bc3a3 No.16433813
>>16433570
every tryhard on consoles uses a mouse and keyboard. Apparently its gotten widespread.
fe6d29 No.16433818
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>>16433803
It's not an opinion, it's an objective fact. Aim assist is on the same level as cinematic cutscenes where you see the character doing "cool shit" instead of building the mechanics so you can do it yourself.
Vapid shit to make mediocre controls and mediocre players feel like they can accomplish amazing feats.
c01b92 No.16433819
>>16433808
With shit like this I don't know how the fuck madcats went out of business. Sure their controllers were shit but they didn't cost more than a new fucking game.
b318ba No.16433822
>>16433765
>while a M&KB costs about $15 and is available literally everywhere.
Good analysis but I think this is the source of the problem too. Since KB+M set is highly accessible, which means more people can use it, that might mean that there is a bigger chance for a controller user to get stomped online.
In my experience playing GT6 I can only find wheel users within hardcore lobbies, unlike every unregulated races where they were full of controller users.
>>16433735
I refuse to believe that's a man.
f3bdc9 No.16433832
>>16433819
Didn't madcatz implode because of the guitar hero craze?
da12ce No.16433843
>>16433808
They used to just be PCB, rubber, moulded plastic and wiring.
Now they've got wireless shit in them, rumble, motion sensors, fucking LED lighting, built-in batteries or battery compartments, fucking NFC readers.
The Xbox controller is the most simple of the lot, since it doesn't even have motion controls and a single LED for the home button, but it's still just as expensive as all the others.
Part of it is the extra shit they've put in, and the other part is that they've raised prices and they won't go down again, because the whole idea of "competition in the market is good because they will undercut each other's prices" doesn't work in the real world when the market agrees it's easier just to gouge the consumer on an industry-wide level.
>>16433819
MadCatz made some absolute dogshit in their time, but right before the end they made the SF4TE arcade stick, which is one of the best I've ever used.
They went out with a fucking bang, that's for sure.
c01b92 No.16433844
>>16433832
Yeah I think it did. You would think that they wouldn't invest ALL their money into plastic instruments but I guess their controllers being shit was less a cost issue and more a being fucking stupid issue.
c01b92 No.16433859
>>16433843
>the whole idea of "competition in the market is good because they will undercut each other's prices" doesn't work in the real world
Good thing that consoles are fucking worthless now if you don't want to play nintendo games since every single exclusive that matters that isn't a nintendo game is getting ported to PC.
ff604b No.16433862
>>16433735
What the fuck is with that thing's face? It's like it's wearing a skin mask and the real face is peeking out around the eyes
974f2e No.16433872
>>16433570
>There is literally no way controller players could handle vs PC + Mouse
not 100% true. I play el dewrito with a controller and I can keep up with most players
5c3acb No.16433876
>>16433862
Heavy make up+ misplaced fake eyelashes + fake conacts
8bc3a3 No.16433887
>>16433862
>he doesnt know
anon thats exactly whats happening
246d2c No.16433892
>>16433832
I thought they were already in financial trouble because a bunch of their controllers ended up frying the ports they were plugged into, and the Guitar Hero craze just ended up driving them over the edge.
Controller ports being standardized as USB was a blessing and a curse. The fabrication processes were well understood and there wasn't any custom tooling or design to take care of. Hell, they just bought their plugs and cords from third party bulk manufacturers. It made it much less likely that their hardware defects could fuck up the system they were plugged into. On the downside, their reputation was already shit and USB made it easier for literally anybody to jump into the third party peripheral market. So they leaned hard into Guitar Hero peripherals since they were still fairly expensive and harder to come by. When that market tanked, so did everything they had invested.
You still have some third party manufacturers like PDP that make cheap controllers.
c01b92 No.16433898
>>16433872
But you're probably good a video games anon the average normalfag that plays halo will get fucking murdered by any ok player with a keyboard and mouse.
0e0ad2 No.16433899
>>16433862
> it's wearing a skin mask
That's… literally what's happening.
I mean, the mask isn't made of actual skin, but it's pretty much the same effect.
75464e No.16433906
I am looking forward to the Halo fanbase getting 10x larger and the flood of pro-Halo players going on /v/ triggering the fuck out of kikes who literally shill against halo because the amerimutt governmnet hates its anti-jizzrael message.
People have been playing halo with KB and mouse for years with CE and 2.
c01b92 No.16433907
>>16433899
Oh god is that the creepy doll fetish suit thing?
fe6d29 No.16433913
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>>16433907
It's makeup you dumb motherfucker, lots of caked on makeup and a bunch of other tricks to make a male look female and "cute".
e3c5c5 No.16433925
>Who else looking forward to seeing console kids lose at their own game
It was never a console game, retard.
Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo Online/El Dewrito are all available on PC. It's like saying Metal Gear Solid is a playstation series when MGS, MGS2, and MGSV have been released on PC, and the rest of the games have gotten Xbox releases.
Mouse and keyboard was the original way to play Halo, you could even use one on 3 and reach through USB ports on the 360. You would've known this if you weren't a cucklet.
30979b No.16433930
>>16433925
>he doesnt know
Halo was a mac game you fucking retard
8bc3a3 No.16433933
>>16433906
take your fucking meds
246d2c No.16433939
>>16433872
>I play el dewrito with a controller and I can keep up with most players
There's a lot more to being good at a game than just aiming and shooting, especially if the flow of the game is fairly stable with not a lot of randomness introduced. If you have a good strategy, know the map, and have the timing of the power weapons down - you'll have a significant advantage over playing a game where you get a random assortment of heros with ability timers all mosh pitting in the center of the map - or getting dropped into a shrinking map with randomized weapon spawns.
And not everybody who uses a keyboard and mouse is going to be proficient with it. I'm not very good with a mouse and keyboard, but I can't stand playing shooters on consoles because it feels like I'm trying to aim through molasses - and it feels cheap and unsatisfying as fuck when you scroll over an enemy and the reticle follows the enemy instead of where you know you should be (poorly) aiming at. So simultaneously I am both better than I should be, and playing worse than I should be. It's fucking maddening.
30979b No.16433942
>>16433872
>eldewrito
Have all of you fags forgot that you can enable the auto aim meant for controller fags whilst using KB+M?
246d2c No.16433950
>>16433899
>I mean, the mask isn't made of actual skin, but it's pretty much the same effect.
Buffalo Bill's woman suit is the new normal these days?
85f184 No.16433955
PC players WILL get the short end of the stick, control auto-aim will be so strong PC players will be foaming at the mouth because console kiddies can beat them with a tenth of the aim.
Screencap this, I will be right.
e3c5c5 No.16433959
>>16433930
Originally developed as- until Microsoft bought Bungie.
The Marathon games was the Mac-only series, retard.
My point still stands that Halo was using keyboard and mouse from the beginning.
Hint: PC means personal computer- wintel kike, Apple machines fall under this catagory as well.
75464e No.16433961
>>16433933
>wahhh ur mean!
Proof that shills hate halo lol.
30979b No.16433962
>>16433959
appleshit /= personal computer
c3778c No.16433963
>Multiplayer
Digital online tag will never be the same.
75464e No.16433970
>>16433962
>if it runs a different operating system it changes meaning completely
per·son·al com·pu·ter
/ˈpərs(ə)n(ə)l kəmˈpyoodər/
noun
noun: personal computer; plural noun: personal computers; noun: PC; plural noun: PCs
a computer designed for use by one person at a time.
Even back then when Apple products were PowerPC (and were way better than intelaviv kike x86 intel me spyware) all machines had a register based architecture where they could load in data and programs and store data in RAM or disk space.
246d2c No.16433977
246d2c No.16433992
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>>16433977
Also, Apple gave up their claim to being called "PCs" when they started to push Mac as being "different" and ran all those insipid "I'm a mac and I'm a PC" ads, which is tacit admission that they aren't PCs and couldn't compete as a PC, they're "creative stations" for "hipsters, artists, and rebels".
75464e No.16433997
>>16433977
IBM Clone = IBM Clone
PC = Personal Computer = Computer for personal use
Hierarchy goes like this.
[PC], [Mainframes], [Microcontrollers]
| L [Multics, original UNIX] L [Bare Metal, RTOS's]
|
|
|
L [IBM Clones], [Apple], [Workstations]
L [x86] L [PowerPC], [x86] L [UNIX-like]
L [Wintel] L [Old World] L [New World] L[Linux], [BSD], [MINIX]
b6475d No.16434059
>>16433832
Pretty much, they filed for bankruptcy in 2017. In 2018 the name was bought by a chinese company and that's who owns it now.
850774 No.16434082
>>16433787
That's because if they got KB+M support it'd be the final nail in the coffin of consoles just being crappier PCs.
8af5b5 No.16434119
>>16433787
>>16434082
>They don't know about Microsofts/Razer KB+M for Xbone
a5fdb7 No.16434141
>>16433637
Holy shit, that's some ultra-salt.
>how dare people use the controls that the FPS genre was born with! It's not FAAIIIIIR!
It annoys me that consoles don't allow mice to operate in their built-in web browsers. Keyboard? Not a problem. YOU WANT TO USE A POINTING DEVICE TO MOVE A CURSOR? NOOOOOO.
f1adfb No.16434153
>>16434141
The FPS genre was born with keyboard only controls, only later did mice became the norm
1a07ac No.16434177
>>16433862
Congratulations, you made me get up from my computer, go get my rifle out of my bag, and prop it up next to my bed.
120270 No.16434187
>>16434177
You don't even have a rifle
1a07ac No.16434193
>>16434187
Yeah, you're right. Lost it in a boating accident back in 2016. Damn shame. Had to let the local PD know and everything. Broke my heart, it did.
d23a61 No.16434194
>>16433707
Actually you only need to land the last bullet in a 4 shot as the headshot. You can shoot anywhere else on the enemy and do the same amount of damage for the first 3 bursts, but the 4th burst breaks the shields and the last headshot is needed for a kill
01b67b No.16434213
>>16433910
wait. was this our local 4am autismo Ritsu?
f0a847 No.16434225
>>16434213
I dont think so
a5fdb7 No.16434323
>>16434153
Computer mice were standard equipment in the era even before DooM, which supported mouse input right off of the BBS. Playing without a mouse was entirely up to the player.
>>16434177
What the fuck is wrong with you? I have an AR-15 next to my bed, and a VZ-2008 next to my desk. Mossberg 590 A1 next to my coat rack, a 1911 on my bookshelf, a CZ-75 on my workbench, and a P-64 on my night stand. Step it up.
2150e5 No.16434365
The only shooters that ever worked on console are games like goldeneye.
actual full 3d shooters without autoaim make you retarded. You can't properly hold an angle with a controller, you can't properly prefire with a controller, you can't properly turn on someone with a controller. Controller FPS games are for actual retards essentially it's like an able bodied person strapping themselves into a wheelchair so they can play basketball. It's retarded.
f3bdc9 No.16434382
>>16434365
Goldeneye is shit with its default control scheme and the source engine port of it proves it.
0c1be2 No.16434421
>>16433570
This has never worked before, I don't know why they'd be stupid enough to try it again
e861d4 No.16434536
>>16433913
Okay, this is actually super fucked and made me sick to my stomach. Some of those deformities are horrifying.
359f55 No.16434645
>>16434323
>Not posting a family photo to prove it
Fag
000000 No.16434653
>>16434421
>expecting corporate suits to not be literally retards
>ever
f7d465 No.16434676
>>16433862
This abomination angers me more than anything. Like it transcends the whole tranny shit, which is already enraging enough. But there's something about that face that gives me this primal urge to destroy this creature. It's like the simplistic part of my mind KNOWS it's an imposter, invader, alien, fake, whatever the fuck and wants to see it violently removed.
7e4152 No.16434876
>>16433690
>turn off the auto-aim
It's the only way those disabled retards can play with controllers. I hope they won't screw PC player with bullshit >>16433740 mentioned. Just allow it in non-competitive modes like coop and don't ruin the game with your shitty nerf updates. I can bet controllertards will ruin the game unless ElDewrito guys stop MS from going full retard.
>>16434082
Considering that a lot of PC fags are playing with controllers there is nothing worse you can do to ruin rep of shitty locked PC boxes which are called consoles nowadays.
b3975d No.16434895
>>16433818
This is why so many faggots play fagwatch. The hitboxes are ass fucking gigantic to the point where even retarded niggers can land headshots with almost no skill involved.
e10638 No.16435053
They won't do it. They tried cross-play way back for Halo 1. What they found is that the console players consistently lost.
e10638 No.16435057
>>16435053
I want to clarify that it didn't matter which exact players were on the console or PC side, the console players still lost. It wasn't a skill thing, it was simply the superior control KB+M provided.
16bb83 No.16435117
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>>16433570
I play with 10 sensitivity so this isn't an issue for me. Gives me better target practice in custom games, 200% speed, 110% jump height, 200% gravity, infinite ammo with reloading, infinite abilities (sprint only), regular shields and health, 150% melee damage, get at my little biiiiiiiiitch.
059a7b No.16435123
>>16435117
>that post
>those digits
6c872c No.16435135
>>16435057
kb+m beats pad in a fps. That's old news…
325ee3 No.16435138
>>16434895
Do you even play the game you retarded nigger?
ddc42a No.16435238
What they should do is release a standard Xbox controller with a gyroscope and let console kiddies use that. It actually works extremely well on a game like Splatoon and is nearly as good as mouse aiming.
2be7cf No.16435244
>>16433913
>all those fake women
>the fucking comments
e10638 No.16435273
>>16435117
>gif
>you will never bust a nut while a Spartan sits on your face
Life is cruel
2a22f0 No.16435436
>>16435138
Kill yourself Overcuck nigger watching Soldier and Hanzo gameplay is more than enough to prove his point you reddit fucking drone.
46305a No.16437603
>>16433942
Dewrito is fucked by cheaters.
I downloaded a cheat, just to see if it were as bad and as easy to do as I figured it was.
Sucks, because it's a really solid game, ruined by faggot cheaters.
46305a No.16437612
>>16435138
I have played the game and he's 100% correct.
It's fucking massive hit boxes. It's literally shit tier "skill"
712523 No.16437642
>>16433907
no, asian thots and trannys just do a lot of stuff with silicone prosthetics now to recontour their faces
6ef3dc No.16437650
>>16433910
>FFXIV 1.0 poster
c0df6d No.16437673
>>16433570
hah, man i remember back in like 2005 or something on 4cuck there were people on /v/ arguing that controllers are just as good as mouse.
e69212 No.16437745
They're really testing my patience.
Just
Get
The
BETA
out
already
363869 No.16437751
Dear astro turfer: no I am in fact not pleased that Cancer: The Series is coming to PC.
b3975d No.16437897
>>16435138
>defending fagwatch
cc9fae No.16437968
>>16433570
>>16433616
PC mouse oppression can be countered with good portion of aimassist for consoles affirmative action. Aimbot >human aiming ability.
b2a5d4 No.16437969
>annihilating console kiddies and calling them faggots in text chat
>MFW they can't do anything about it
713295 No.16437977
>>16433690
>Yes, but it was only ever done properly once with the Dreamcast and UT/QIIIA. It's been either unsupported or hacked in by third parties ever since because nobody has the balls to just tell people that if you want to play competitively, you should be expected to use the tools available that will allow you to compete.
>Fighting games support Arcade sticks
>Flight games support Flight sticks
>Rhythm games use special controllers
cc9fae No.16437978
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>>16437969
>aimbot for consoles version crunked up to eleven
>mouse users raped in fps
>delicious pc fags tears
>no arguments left
ee3bb7 No.16438011
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>>16437968
>>16437978
>He thinks I need Microsoft to download an aimbot
>He thinks autoaim with a pad is worth a shit
lol consoleniggers
083775 No.16438031
>>16437968
>aimassist
This is the only thing those disabled console kiddies can rely on to play FPS with a controller though which pretty much defeat controller purpose as a good device for FPS. Hell, not just FPS but any kind of shooter or game where you have to control your camera even. I'm actually surprised that those disabled retards consider controllers the best option for video games when literally controllers work in first/third person games solely because of aim-assist. Remove aim-assist and you can't play video game without some kind of bullshit.
Only in side-scrolling genres, turn-based games or games where player doesn't have to control camera you can use controller normally without some kind of assisting, however even in this case you can rely on keyboard.
It's really bad that for some reason many developers can't make in their shitty console ports a proper KB+M support for which their third person games are designed for pretty well. I wonder if they do it on purpose or are just retarded or if they simply have never played with KB+M in their lives so they actually never experienced a better type of control in video games. Considering majority of these devs are Japanese I suspect it's the latter.
e51e05 No.16438800
Why pay for the same game 3 times
Why not just fix halo 2 vista
0f790a No.16439892
>>16433733
Heard this was a pretty good and underrated game though.
f3bdc9 No.16439895
>>16438031
I disagree that it's the only way to really play FPS games. Gyro and stick is vastly superior to aim assist
It's part of the reason why I wish the steam controller wasn't so unfathomnably shit
cb3f7e No.16439898
>>16434895
[citation needed]
>>16435436
>>16437612
>>16437897
You retards realize that being autistic doesn't make you right, right?
cf2909 No.16440280
>>16439898
Back to reddit blizzcuck drone shill
0d8358 No.16440313
>>16437969
i hate to burst your bubble on this, but clearly you havent played overwatch.
they optimized that game for the aim to feel more consistently with a controller. your mouse input is throttled so you cant actually move it as fast as you'd like. I imagine they will do an even worse version of this for all future games.
You are correct those a mouses regular inputs are superior, but that very likely isnt going to be what happens here. consoletards dump money without thinking because the only people they talk to are literally an echochamber of their own retarded friends all trying to one up each other by getting the dlc first and bragging about it.
it's a brave new world if older gamers don't start being that one contrary voice in their lives. So if you have a niece or nephew, do your part.
1d6bdb No.16440346
>>16440313
I made this, I don't know why.
986ccf No.16443954
>>16433803
>>16433818
>>16433690
>>16434876
>>16433637
>>16433635
>>16433628
>t. people who have never played console fps
even with aim assist, bullet magnetism, it's still far harder to aim well with a controller then plain M+KB because analog sticks are THAT shit.
So yes, M+KB is the superior input method, but the idea that controllers hjave it "easy" or "don't take skill" is wrong, because even with all the help it gets it's still way less intuitive and is much harder to consistently land shots using it. The issue is just it shouldn't be that hard to fucking begin with: driving while blindfolded, even if you have somebody else in the car trying to watch traffic for you might take more skill, doesn't mean it's something you should have to do.
766baa No.16443994
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>>16439898
You realize rhetoric doesn't make you right, right?
this video turbo gay, but I haven't been able to find the webbum that better highlights it
986ccf No.16449430