/v/ - Video Games

I'm using a 5 dollar wireless mouse I got on amazon. Tecknet is the brand. Pretty gud for something super cheap.

Just buy a 10$ optical mouse from Genius or some budget-tier manufacturer. They're fucking invincible and last forever, and when it finally gives up the ghost while your grand-grandchild is using it to play Assassin's Creed 49, it was just 10$. Although stay away from Havit or the proudly chinese shit.

>>16393635

logitech g pro when it was cheap, don't know why it increased in price

The Logitech MMO mouse has a pretty mediocre sensor for the price. There's also a bug where if you use the 4 mouse button to temporarily reduce the DPI, it'll keep that DPI for the vertical when released. You then have to press it again to reset it. Makes me miss my razor maga epic for the shit software it had.

Not worth the money.

>>16393635

>MX500

Steelseries Rival 310 or Logitech G403 Prodigy Wired are your best best. Both feature similar grips, with the G403 being a direct successor to the MX500 (well, the successor to the successor to the successor. They share the same ancestry).

Also look around for the Steelseries Rival 300 and Logitech G400 / Logitech G400s. Those are just earlier revisions of the mice I recommend, and will either be comically overpriced or available for a significantly lower price. Obviously get them if they're the latter. Prices on them are fluctuating like crazy because they've been discontinued and outlets are either trying to fleece collectors with the stock they have left, or they have enough stock to sell it at clearance prices.

>>16393635

>drive to nearest computer parts store

>hold different mice and test them out

>check reviews on your goyphone before buying

If you have the misfortune of living in the ass end of nowhere then I guess buy a Zowie FK1 or something

>>16393782

Steelseries is generally great, aside from being a bitch and a half to fix when the scrollwheel inevitably dies.

>>16393800

>computer stores

>letting the goyim handle peripherals that cost more than $30

I can't even remember the last time I saw a gaming mouse on display.

>>16393854

>steelseries scrollwheel

< 'nam flashbacks

Jesus Christ I had a SteelSeries mouse and that mouse wheel was terrible. Not only did it go to shit with a year, but it squeaked like a motherfucker too. Cleaning it did nothing, but every time I scrolled I would get this tiny "fork on a dinner plate" scritch. I eventually bought a new mouse just because of that noise.

i used to abhor the idea of gamer mice but a friend got me a mouse with a few extra buttons on the side and i always find a use for them now, sometimes through auto hot key.

also made it a lot easier to browse porn with one hand

>>16393635

>>16393655

>Just buy a 10$ optical mouse from Genius or some budget-tier manufacturer. They're fucking invincible and last forever

This. There's nothing in CY+4 market that will have the same build quality and durability of a mouse from 10 or 15 years ago, so just forget about a proper replacement. Nowadays, budget mice have better build quality and last longer than gaming mice.

>>16393635

This is a good mouse, gamer.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BRHDZ49/

>>16394388

Do a combination of limiting your wrist movement and use more of your forearm & shoulders muscles and unironically lift.

EC2A is good, as long as you dont sperg and slam the mouse on the desk when you get frustrated. It will fuck with the optical sensor

>>16394402

>>16394388

It also helps to have an armrest at the same level of the desk with your mouse so you get better arm support and don't put as much strain on your wrist.

>>16394388

I use a cheap anker brand one for non-game stuff, it works fine.

Also, what these guys said but I don't have the desk space for it:

>>16394402

>>16394600

I recently lost a mechanical mouse I enjoyed ~14 years of service from. Do people even make decent mechanical mice with a ball inside them anymore or is it all optical now?

>>16394663

Oh and PS/2 would be nice, for those critical boot occasions where something won't detect USB.

>>16394388

this is new to me. what would you say is the appeal of this kind of mouse?

i think itd be cool as an immersion thing for mech and aircraft simulators but i cant think of other benefits.

>>16393794

I remember reading recently that they rereleased the MX518. I think it was back in March?

>>16394698

Yeah and for some reason now they're more expensive than they were before. It's stupid.

The MX518 was over-rated anyway. I had one and it never felt quite right to me.

Zowie FK2 is good but fingertippy. Solid build quality, on the smaller side. Deathadders were always great but it is a Razer mouse, and the last time I used one it required an account to access its cloud-based drivers to change some settings.

>>16394668

They are supposed to put less stress on your wrist. The shape they are made allow your hand to be more perpendicular which is a slightly more natural and comfortable position for your wrist.

>>16393635

>Is Zowie any good?

It's good but way overpriced, now, if you can find one around 50-60 bucks sure, not fucking 90 like they're asking in some places though.

They also have heavy clicks, kinda mediocre side buttons and a very high tendency to get a double click on the mouse wheel of all things

DM1 FPS and Nixeus Revel are good similar alternative at a way more reasonable price (55 and 38 respectively, make sure it's the glossy plastic ones hte soft touch coating is really bad on either of those)

Roccat has some refurb you can get that are really damn good if you can get them for refurb prices (40-50 bucks)

There's a few chinkshit ones with good sensor (James Donkey / Motospeed / Delux with PixArt PMW 336x sensors) but they have hit or miss QC and I'm pretty sure the firmware on those is shit and doesn't support some DPI settings properly, but they're cheap as fuck though especially if you get them off AliExpress or other chinkshit import online stores

There's also the Coolermaster MM520 which I haven't tested yet but is fairly cheap and has a good sensor.

I definitely do not recommend modern Logitech for anything having to do with gaming in general, fucking had to RMA that G303 PoS several times to get one that wasn't DoA and anything above that is overpriced for what it is not to mention I like it when my mice don't fucking melt in my hands after a few months, but I'd say if you can get hold of a G403 / MX518 for about 50 they're not the worst deal ever

If you're feeling adventurous go on ebay search for PMW3360 and grab the cheapest one, no guarantee it won't explode in your hands once you plug it but it'll have a good sensor

>>16395616

Most symmetrical "five button" mice have right-side thumb buttons, and more importantly aren't Razer products.

>>16395662

i had to let it go. stores were only carrying the wireless version

I need a new set of headphones. Any suggestions?

$60 budget.

>>16394665

A PS/2 mouse isn't needed since you can do everything with a PS/2 keyboard.

>>16397364

Sony MDR-V6 is the best if you don't listen to nigger music.

>>16397364

Takstar Pro82

Anything else is gonna be worse in some way at that price point.

>>16397364

It's around 20$ over budget, but you can find new and authentic Philips SHP9500s from Aliexpress. Great headphones all around.

It also really matters if you're a Eurofag or Amerilard. The former gets seriously fucked on how much stuff costs and how wide your options are.

t. eurofag

>>16397456

MDRV6 is meant for studio work, don't they have some noisy sound?

>>16398009

Nice. Thinking of putting Huanos in mine, normal WMO switches are almost as light as Omrons.

>>16398105

>MDRV6 is meant for studio work, don't they have some noisy sound?

They sound flat although respond to EQ somewhat well, have shit default pads and no detachable cables and cost more than better comparable solutions before you even factor in modding them, people recommend it because it's the first pair of "good" headphones they ever put on their heads.

>It's around 20$ over budget, but you can find new and authentic Philips SHP9500s from Aliexpress

Seconding this, although they're a bit nobass and the highs are a bit aggressive they're really damn good especially for games.

>>16393752

I used the g700 and g602 for years thinking I needed all the extra buttons, but I always claw gripped and they were horrible for me. Switching to the g300s is the best thing I ever did, it's absolutely perfect for me.

>>16398782

>If you go ultra cheap and cast aside everything else other than sound,

But sound-quality is the least important feature for a pair of headphones, especially if used for gaming and general computer use. You really only need good enough sound shit that it isn't detracting you with static or echoes or some shit and that you can hear what they are saying or shooting or whatever. Beyond that it's pretty irrelevant.

The most important aspect is comfort. You're probably going to be wearing the things all day every day. Physical pain trumps just about everything else.

>>16399465

2 side buttons is really all you can effectively use. I'd like more honestly. While not every game I play would benefit, I still frequently bind things to the 2 and have leftovers I would like to bind to a third or fourth. You just can't use more than that effectively with your thumb while still using the mouse. I've never seen a mouse design where more than 5 buttons (lmb/rmb/mmb/mb4/mb5) works.

I really like my G603 for shape, button placement, and wireless functionality. Wireless is pretty key because of how bad wired mouse cables are to manage mid-game. They always pull my mouse off target or limit my movement area heavily. Problem with the G603 unfortunately is that the mousewheel is FUBAR, it randomly scrolls in the opposite direction you are scrolling, sometimes multiple lines, sometimes even scrolling back and forth for several seconds after you let go of the mouse entirely, so I really would not recommend this mouse to anyone. It's a shame because it's so close to being the perfect mouse.

>>16399522

If comfort is more important than any aspect of sound quality, just use speakers. The only thing you might need to compromise on that way is loudness.

>>16399522

>But sound-quality is the least important feature for a pair of headphones

No, only someone who hasn't had a proper good pair of headphones on his head could say something that retarded.

Comfort is fairly important yes, especially if you're gonna spend over 8hr with them on, but the vast majority of comfort issues you can fix with a pair Brainwavz / ZMF / Shure pads

Even playing casually a good pair of headphone with a lot of clean bass and a wide soundstage will make your experience a lot more more enjoyable

Obviously you can just use good speakers instead but that's not always an option and that's not particularly cheap either, a baseline speaker system that's not trash would run you about 500-700 bucks but for that price range headphones are generally at the edge of diminishing returns hell even 300 will get you a pair of headphones that you'll have a hard time finding straight upgrades for.

t.Fostex TH900 / Fidelio X2 / Takstar Pro82 / Superlux 668b owner

>>16393861

Wow fuck that noise

>>16398009

I assume you OC it to 1000hz? I do it via the Atsiv + task scheduler restart method.

>>16393655

What is LOD of the $10 Genuis?

>>16399638

> hell even 300 will get you a pair of headphones that you'll have a hard time finding straight upgrades for.

Based China pushed that to 30 bucks. Praise Knowledge Zenith!

>>16393635

zowie ec2-a

I'm autistic and rage too fast oh man how often did I slap my mouse against the dish on full power and it hasn't a single scratch. Keep in midn that im 140kg fat and this thing just keeps going.

>>16404007

Earphones, not headphones. Decent headphones don't really start under $40 yet.

You're right, though. Chi-fi is pretty glorious and Chinks absolutely dominate the low cost IEM market today.

>>16397364

CCA 10 or KZ ZS10.

>>16393653

I have a Tecknet M002, I paid $9 from Bezosmart too.

I am looking to by a higher end mouse for important stuff one day. Just remember a bright white mouse pad works best with optical mice.

>>16393635

I'm using a basic bitch 2.8$ Genius office mouse and it's alright for gayming so far. The previous one got its left and middle buttons completely worn out from 5 years of usage.

>>16404013

Headphones sucks.

After playing for year using headphones a realized that they are heavy, hot and slip to the side forcing you head into one static position (bad for neck!). And they cost x5 of teh same quality earphones. Only reason to not use earphones is that you are allergic to idea of shoving plugs into your ear canals.

>>16404026

>I am looking to by a higher end mouse for important stuff one day. Just remember a bright white mouse pad works best with optical mice.

That's fucking wrong, are you retarded? Straight black with minimal bright colours are optimal for any optical sensor.

>>16404033

Tell me moar nigger.

>>16404032

>t. never used a decent pair of headphones

There's plenty of light headphones, how much they breathe is dependant on what pads you use and decent pairs don't slip. Earphones make me itch and they are never good to use for over 2 hours straight, and considering my NEETdom and how I am at my PC for 8 hours a day that's shit. I've tried various tips and while all of them were still uncomfortable, foam was the closest I got to bad instead of just awful.

>>16399545

Can't use speakers with roommates or with a microphone. It's simply not an option.

>>16404007

>Based China pushed that to 30 bucks. Praise Knowledge Zenith!

Nah, chi-fi is certainly impressive but none of what you can find there is anywhere close to being hard to find an upgrade for

Might change with the new Takstar planars though since they share basically the same driver as headphones in the $1k range and considering the pro82 I'm pretty sure they can pull off matching / surpassing headphones several times their price but then it's also 150-200 bucks so that's already not the same price range as most other chink headphones on the market.

>>16404032

>After playing for year using headphones a realized that they are heavy, hot and slip to the side forcing you head into one static position (bad for neck!)

Sounds to me like you couldn't choose a proper pair of headphones because I have none of those issues

>>16404693

>Sounds to me like you couldn't choose a proper pair of headphones because I have none of those issues

Its funny to read such when after you mention PRO 82 what are heavy, hot and slippy.

>>16404723

>Its funny to read such when after you mention PRO 82 what are heavy, hot and slippy.

>240 grams

>will stick to your head just fine unless you try to headbang

>negligible temperature difference after hours of use

What are you a headbanging little girl with muscle atrophy?

>>16404873

240 grams is quite perceivable weight.

>>negligible temperature difference after hours of use

>caps made from fake leather fully covering ears

>not hot and full of sweat

Also i recommend you to record yourself when you are sitting and playing wearing headphones and without. There are unconscious things common people can't spot in themselves unless they look at them from outside point of view.

>>16405056

>240 grams is quite perceivable weight.

Perceptible |= heavy

It's pretty much as low as over-ears will go so it by definition can't be heavy unless all you're comparing it to are IEMs, but then even portapros would be "heavy" in comparison.

Although I'll agree that it definitely feel more "present" on my head than other even far heavier headphones, but that's down to the materials and clamp force

>not hot and full of sweat

That is in fact correct, unless ambient is high enough to make me sweat then it's not gonna cause me any excess sweating issues, still haven't touched the stock pads for that reason

>Also i recommend you to record yourself when you are sitting and playing wearing headphones and without.

If you mean to somehow infer I don't have problem with it moving off my head because I unconsciously move less in front of my computer you can take that thought and shove it right back, I use those as portable headphones (with a DAP while doing stuff around the house) specifically because they do not move when I do.and I do have that problem with a few other headphones even sitting in front of my computer (especially the fidelio but that's a widespread issue on those)

You don't need to make up / overstate excuses for your IEM preference.

>>16405214

>aluminum ball bearings with a precise diameter

Modern optical trackballs rest the ball on three fixed bearings.

Manufacturers used steel bearings up until the past few years.

Sapphire bearings are superior to even ceramic.

Aluminum would be like putting the trackball on cheese.

>>16405214

Ah, I OC mine just for the 1.5m/s before negative accel. Makes tracking feel smoother.

Walmart is having a lot of clearance items for keyboards + mice. Just picked up a Corsair K68 for $45 pretax.

I got a MX Master 2s

It's pretty comfortable.

>>16409605

wot

Anyone have a decent recommendation for a set of headphones around 50 bucks?

>>16409943

Turtle Beach is "decent"

>>16410004

>gaymer shit

I don't believe you.

>>16409943

Superlux 668b / 662 EVO/ 681 + Brainwavz XL round pad (hybrid or leather will sound the best for those), or if it's too pricy for you just regular superlux velour pads, the default ones are horrible

If you're in yurop there's a few takstar Pro82 for right around 50 on ebay, but in the US it'll probably be a bit higher easily still worth it up to 70 bucks since there's 0 need to change or mod anything

Coolermaster MH751 if you can find it in your price range, it's pretty much just a Pro82 with a mic, inline volume control and a very slightly different tuning

Monoprice Retro if you like bass

Status Audio CB-1 if you can get over the creaking plastic noises

>>16410019

Thanks, that will put me on the right track.

>>16409482

I might have to switch. Stupid programmable buttons (beyond M4/M5 you have to map them to keyboard keys anyway) are a turn off, but the G603 that I use now has a serious (and apparently well-known) problem with the scroll wheel. I like everything else about it, especially the wireless, but it's becoming unusable for even basic web browsing and I have to unbind anything on scroll up/down in games.

>>16410082

Is there any mouse manufacturer that doesn't have unreliable scrollwheels?

Due to indecisiveness and companies being retarded I've held off on buying a new controller for my PC, since my 360 controller is starting to break down.

I've been told that the DS4 is the best around for PC these days. Should I get a DS4 or have I missed something?

>>16410549

I prefer the latest model Xbone controller (model number 1708, it's the one with built-in Bluetooth).

The build quality is much better (no more unresponsive d-pad or double-tapping face buttons) and it doesn't require fucking around with a tertiary program to get it working.

>>16410549

The xbone controller is the best, mostly for better integration and battery.

The DS4 works well enough however. Hell even a DS3 works if you still have one that isn't broken.

>>16410017

>gaming headsets

Don't ever give anyone purchasing advice ever again. You are fucking stupid.

>>16410549

It's a fairly solid choice

Here's a few other recommendations if you want some comparison for PC pads

>Gamesir G3w / Genesis P65

Cheapest controller that's not completely horrible, imprecise dpad, hard to disassemble, fairly solid, works on PS3 15-20 bucks

>Zhidong ZD-V+

Bigger, also cheap, slightly better Dpad but worse buttons,Special Dinput/Xinput mode selection, works on PS3 20-30 bucks

>Hori Edge-301

Nearly unbreakable even if the QC isn't always great (the back part of the controller doesn't always fit all that well leaving a noticeable edge at the place both the front and back part join), has a switch to swap the Dpad to stick and stick to Dpad as well as turbo, solid, easy to disassemble and easy to maintain, good dpad, meh sticks, no trrigers 40-50 bucks

>Nacon Wired Compact

Insane build quality except the touchpad, shoulder / start / select buttons are microswitches, weird dpad that takes a bit of getting used to, connection indicator has different colors for different player numbers, available in transparent versions and also has a switch to turn LEDs off in those 30-40 bucks

Is there any advantage to using PS/2 over USB when it comes to mouses as is the case with keyboards?

>>16413047

Not anything you're likely to notice without being told.

>>16393635

buy razer