/v/ - Video Games

>>16382853

nah, it's a weird action, card arcade game that's been big in Japan for years.

Also, anyone know if movie Broly is in it?

Huh, is it actually good?

Also I'm disappointed that the facfic brought back Baby before Cell

>>16383077

>Implying movie broly won't be in it

I'm actually wondering how they'll handle the FighterZ DLC without Vic

>>16383186

But is he in it already?

does anyone know what missions World Heroes has? does it have missions from the arcade like DBH God Mission and SDBH Universe Mission, or is it a completely new storyline?

>>16382853

it's nothing like your typical card game. you only have 7 cards, matches have a 5 turn hard limit, and combat is just stopping a gauge when it's full.

>>16385605

That’s a neat Broly, how are his abilities?

>>16385605

Same, there’s only a few cards I really don’t want though… mostly just Krillins.

>>16386333

Activating the abilities on cards is surprisingly satisfying when you understand how they are done. I just hope the online play doesn’t boil down to the same decks and nobody likes to get creative with their teams.

Just a heads up, this guy has some good guys if you’re starting to struggle a bit with building good decks like I am.

>>16387281

Videos*

Man, that 3 hours of sleep is getting to me

>>16382853

did yamcha ever had his D wet?

>>16387383

No, Yamcha is PURE.

>>16388837

In my headcanon, there are two Brolys and two Paraguses. There is the one who was in a pod next to Goku, and the one who was in a pod near Vegeta. Two completely different people with two completely different fathers, and it's just a coincidence that they have the same names.

Vegeta doesn't call attention to the fact that their names are the same, but maybe Broly and Paragus are just common names on Planet Vegeta. Like how Turles looks like Goku because all low-class saiyans look alike (or rather, there are only a few different types).

>>16391157

And they both happen to be Legendary Super Saiyans?

That or DBS is hot garbage and so is Dragon Ball Minus.

>>16393559

Yes. It's just a coincidence. Do they even actually refer to Broly as being the chosen one from the legend in the new movie? They barely allude to it in the original. So only original Broly is actually the guy from the legend. The other guy named Broly is just a freak who happens to be way stronger and also have a green aura.

They both exist, but there was just no reason to mention the other guy named Broly who they killed years ago when the second guy named Broly shows up. Two entirely different guys.

>That or DBS is hot garbage and so is Dragon Ball Minus.

Super consistently approaches interesting stories, then goes out of its way to make sure that those interesting stories do not actually happen. Frost is actually a good guy? No, let's do the "twist" that the guy who everyone thought was evil turned out to actually be evil. Goku becomes so determined to fight strong guys that he ends up instigating events that will destroy five universes, causing him to be public enemy #1 of the multiverse (and also maybe he's just fucking evil. At the very least they could question his morality). No, they go out of their way to repeatedly try to explain that all the universes were gonna get killed anyway, just to take away that interesting motivation for the other universes. The Mexican Lore is unironically better. Which I suppose is why they just gave up and introduced Goku Blanco. So be it. The Heroes anime has Goku training with El Grande Padre, and I hope they just go further with ripping off the Mexican Lore. El Hermano would be a much more interesting antagonist than Jiren. They brought in two new versions of Baby and brought black Zamasu. Might as well just bring in SSj4 Shaggy.

>>16394002

They did ponder if he might be the legend which is what set King Vegetable off, the mere possibility that some low class wretch could have higher potential than his own son. But instead of attempted murder he just had Broly sent off to a death world hoping that he would just die there.

>>16394002

He was called it a few times before being banished, otherwise he wasn't really called LSS.

I don't think heroes is mexican lore tier honestly. Still too high class for it.mexican was better than super though, i do agree

>>16394016

Ok fine they both are the Legendary Super Saiyan then. The entire concept is stupid since clearly Goku was supposed to be the Legendary Super Saiyan of Legend, and Vegeta also called him that a million times on Namek. So fuck it. Broly is a retarded concept anyway. His first move gets by because it actually has an okay story otherwise, and the new one is so/so. The second is a comedy where Broly is basically a joke, and the third is just Man-Thing and I don't even know why they said it had anything to do with Broly aside from marketing purposes. Still a good movie though. 18 and Mr. Satan getting some time to shine is good in my books.

>>16394021

I love what I managed to read of the Heroes mangas. I have to check it out again and see if any more has been translated. I say if you're gonna continue the franchise past the original creator's authorship, then you might as well go full autistic with it, and do all the retarded fanfic shit you can imagine. But autistic actual fan fanfic. Not casual pseudo-fan fanfic. Heroes does the former, so I love it. Mexican lore also does the former, so I love it. Mexican lore is autistic actual fans only making fun of pseudo-fans as well as Super itself. It's the type of retarded that only geniuses could make. Super is just the type of retarded that only retards would make.

>>16394035

Broly makes sense in the case that previous saiyans don't sound like they could ever get to the point of Vegeta/Goku and a mutant that just has insane power and jumpstarts to a "super saiyan 2" of sorts makes more sense for the race.

Broly wasn't even intended to have a special super saiyan form, his design sheet clearly shows normal super saiyan and the planet in general had fucked up colors

Anime Super and Manga Super are kind of different beasts in the sense of how they're handled; i can sorta admire some of what manga super does but the anime has been a constant disappointment.

>>16394038

Well if we're counting Heroes with its alternate timelines/dimensions then there are tons of Brolys. All the Xeno/Dark characters are fucking crazy though and I'm glad that now more people might become aware of the crazy Dragon Ball video game lore. It's like there's a whole universe of content below the surface that people didn't know about.

>First there's the manga. If you want the core of the story, here's the most bare bones (but also most focused) form.

>then there's the anime, including filler and movies, since they reference each other. Introduces inconsistencies, but it's clearly intended to still be one story. Except those Dragon Ball (non-Z) movies, but even elements from those get referenced in filler sometimes, probably by accident. But overall, you've got more content. It's not as focused and it introduces inconsistencies, but there's also plenty of fun to be had.

>if you're not a casual you'll probably be inclined to read Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, and once you do, you'll realize that there are several other short Galactic Patrol manga, and before you know it, you've found that there are a bunch of other Toriyama manga that are technically in the Dragon Ball universe

>That's to say nothing of Dr. Slump, which is great on its own merits, of course, but is actually long and must be appreciated as its own thing, despite great crossovers it has with Dragon Ball later on maybe being what incentivizes modern fans to check it out.

>then you realize that Neko Majin is really the closest you're gonna get to an actual Toriyama authored sequel to Dragon Ball. It's good, at least.

>So now you're out of content and you're left searching for the scattered extra material from over the years. Fire/traffic safety videos. An OVA that is really cutscenes from an NES game but fully animated and released on VHS. A japanese only VR Arcade game. Some sort of weird fully animated trivia game that was played with something resembling a telephone. A bunch of weird little specials that are nearly impossible to find now. All fit well enough into the anime. As well as the movies fit, anyway.

>finally you have the newer video game lore. Online, Xenoverse, Heroes. Unlike the previous scattered video game stories, these actually link and have recurring characters, factions, and plotlines that are built up to have a surprising level of depth, but you would never know about them if you don't venture into this part of the universe. You could never even have an inkling of any of this if you only watched the anime. But here's where it goes full retard, throws in everything from all of the above, and it's great.

>>16394054

>Broly makes sense in the case that previous saiyans don't sound like they could ever get to the point of Vegeta/Goku and a mutant that just has insane power and jumpstarts to a "super saiyan 2" of sorts makes more sense for the race.

The best I could ever figure for Broly is that he is the actual Super Saiyan told of in the legend, that is supposed to appear once every thousand years. Goku is just another Super Saiyan who happened to appear just barely before the actual one from the legend. So is Vegeta. And Trunks (but he's from the future so only sorta). It's stupid, but it's as much sense as it's gonna make.

>Anime Super and Manga Super are kind of different beasts in the sense of how they're handled; i can sorta admire some of what manga super does but the anime has been a constant disappointment.

I believe Toyotaro has good ideas, and is a good writer in general. I love what he did with the other spinoff mangas he's done. But most of the manga was him trying to keep up with the anime, which was far ahead of him, so he just had to rush through, only barely taking time to fix a few major fuckups. Like the time travel in the Black arc actually makes sense in the manga. Jiren actually has a motivation. Kale is actually berserk and has to be subdued by Caulifla forcing a fusion. All interesting stuff that the anime surely would have copied if the manga existed when the anime was being made. But instead the manga ends up effectively being based on the anime, since it's just trying to keep up.

>>16394261

>The main problem is that Goku is the smartest fighter in the series. A literal retard has the best grasp of strategy and technique in the series.

I don't think this is a problem with Super. I wouldn't say it's a problem at all. It's just Goku. He's an idiot savant whose autistic specialty is fighting. He's like Rain Man, only instead of counting toothpicks, he's really good at fighting.

>What makes story of games like DBO, DBXV, and to a degree Dragon Ball FighterZ appealing is the slight removal of Goku's MC status.

What makes those stories interesting is that they're written by autistic fans who are interested in exploring the underutilized corners and implications of the universe. Though yes, DB frequently does its best when Goku isn't the MC. Goku is barely around for a lot of the best parts of Z. He's dead for most of the Saiyan Arc, then on earth, in space, and in a healing tank for most of the Namek Arc. He's sick for a significant portion of the Android Arc, and then has to avoid Cell while others fight for him so he can train with Gohan. Again he's dead for a significant portion of the Buu arc.

This is also more evident in the anime, which adds a bunch of filler about Gohan when Goku is dead. But this is actually good filler, and includes a lot of the most memorable episodes. This is probably why fans tend to think of Gohan as a main character, but Toriyama doesn't really seem to get it. Toriyama glossed over Gohan training with Piccolo, but the anime showed it and it resulted in much greater impact for Piccolo's sacrifice and the rest of their relationship.

>>16395171

Toriyama has nothing to do with those "scuffs." He just gives rough plot outlines and sometimes contributes to character designs, then lets Toyotaro do the manga and Toei do the anime. He doesn't draw any of the manga, and thus the anime can't be based on his drawings, aside from basic designs. The anime is usually ahead of the manga anyway, so it's not based on anything but a rough plot outline. You can tell how different it is because of how different it is from the manga, and that's with the manga probably trying to make sure it doesn't stray too far from the anime.

>>16394998

>I don't think this is a problem with Super.

I meant Dragon Ball in general not just DBS. It is just that it is more evident in DBS.

>I wouldn't say it's a problem at all. It's just Goku. He's an idiot savant whose autistic specialty is fighting. He's like Rain Man, only instead of counting toothpicks, he's really good at fighting.

The problem is that they made everyone else a fucking retard so that the in-universe retard can be the greatest fighter in the Universe.

>What makes those stories interesting is that they're written by autistic fans who are interested in exploring the underutilized corners and implications of the universe.

All of those were blatant excuse plots with a dash of self-insertion. My point is that someone other than a godlike super retard can actually use the tools of the god. Someone who isn't destined to be the strongest can struggle. Look at Naruto and imagine people trying to make new techniques using knowledge of ki or even magic. Maybe someone can make a better version of the kaio-ken or alternate fusion dances with more people.

In a year, the Earthlings were already stronger than Radditz when Goku and Piccolo together were barely strong enough to beat Radditz. After Future Trunks' warning, Goku offered the rest of Z-Fighters to join him in training which they refused. After 2-3 years, all that was accomplished was Vegeta getting SSJ off-screen.

>>16395889

The second pic is her art in dokkan battle. They upped her tit size a bit. The first pic came first.

>>16395919

So if anything they made her better

>>16396090

Been doing that now that I’ve got most of the cards in machine 8. It becomes a bit to much of a slog earning them through normal battles only to get the same cards over and over.

>>16395316

>All of those were blatant excuse plots with a dash of self-insertion.

Well they were largely commercials for games, but naw, over time they get into some pretty cool stuff. Retarded, but cool.

>>16395387

>Devilman is getting the love he deserves

I might start playing this game. It kind of looks like Dokkan and I enjoyed that for a while.

>>16398279

Actually, as I’m looking around it’s weird that there isn’t a list of all the cards in the game yet.

>>16395203

Sounds like a snake eating its own tail.

Update came out and I noticed I have been getting perfect transforms more often, also Broly movie cards added to rare gacha in the Added cards section.

>>16419444

Did they actually fix the anti-cheat to allow mods?

>>16419546

I'm probably not the right person to ask I still haven't set aside the time to learn how to mod the game I'm just bookmarking mods and reading a little bit about it. I did read that you have to be offline to mod because of the anti-cheat though I believe it was a fairly old Post maybe a year old. I'm playing a pirated copy so online isn't something I could do anyway.

How does a card game with PS2 graphics warrant being $60?

>>16427664

It doesn't, pirate it like a normal person.

>>16419546

Someone made a fix to bypass EAC, like always it just means you can only play online with other people that also disabled the anti-cheat.

>>16420101

You can use mods online with the fix, also

>I'm playing a pirated copy so online isn't something I could do anyway.

Nope, steamworks fixes let you play pirated online with other people using the same fix.

>>16428781

I can't find anything for the current version of the game, you wouldn't happen to have a link would you?