54c112 No.16374169
Grim Dawn's latest expansion came out a few weeks ago and last thread is dead, how are your builds coming along? Put together something interesting?
Old thread: >>16336622
<Shill synopsis
>Best modern diablo-like game currently on the market
>Same developers as Titan Quest
>Self-published and not run by cucks
<Beginner tips
>Play on Veteran
>Press 'A' to loot items
>Golden triangle in bottom right of UI increases minimap size
>Lootfilter is accessed by clicking the ring in bottom left
>Don't be afraid of putting components into crappy gear, they can be recovered
>Never sell components of crafting items, the only vendor trash that exists is bad gear
>Don't neglect resistances, getting reputation with factions grants augments which help a lot
>At the start, focus points in your main damaging skill
>grimtools.com is a database with all items and enemies listed within. Also has skill calculator.
<Notable nonintrusive mods
>Grim Internals adds a lot of options such as hovering names and health bars to enemies, autolooting of items and DPS meter amongst other things
grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53629
>GD Stash adds an infinite stash through a java program.
grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23414
<Shortlist of expansion features
>New class; Oathkeeper
>If you've previously unlocked a difficulty, new characters can start at it from level 1
>Movement augments for medals
>Bunch of new items, rebalancing of old ones and a new campaign
>Shattered Realms is a new endgame farming option which applies random modifiers like The Crucible
<Start on "Shard 1", fight through 3 "Chunks" which are random areas from anywhere within the game
<"Chunk 4" is a boss arena, beat it and you may advance to "Shard 2", you can also leave and collect your rewards
<Checkpoints every 5 Shards, craft a consumable item to start from a checkpoint
<Infinite scaling, better loot on higher shards. Beat time limit (resets every new shard, unless you fail) to get more chests at the end. Time extends by getting multikills and killing strong enemies
<Magnet links
Game with all expansions: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b5993f282baf3a58d0b6fbe3432bb80f1fdd5d37
Update 1.1.1.1: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9d9d229c5731e186fbbcff46f2e6e624a2cd7aa8
Update 1.1.1.2: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:950fa9ea4f08149989440cdf5a91d4bcf45ce9cd
Need both updates, torrents posted by Scene uploader on rarbg. CODEX crack.
54c112 No.16374212
>>16374169
Another thing the multiplayer is P2P though that means it's also available on pirated versions.
b23822 No.16374601
I started a Server. Look for Valalaika. No password. Feel free to drop in. I hope I can finish the game for once.
16e957 No.16374644
>>16374601
what's the game name?
b23822 No.16374663
>>16374644
I set it up as Valalaika. It's very early game, I'm mostly just rushing so I can get the higher difficulties. Veteran too.
d70960 No.16374675
>>16374169
nobody told me this game had spooky boobs
16e957 No.16374732
>>16374663
i can't see it, i assume it's coz you're using pirated version?
1bdb78 No.16374742
Is Curse of Frailty even worth it? I feel like it actively makes my Occultist build worse because of the insane aggro it draws.
b23822 No.16374749
>>16374732
Yeah. That's a shame, I was hoping for some company. OP even says multiplayer is p2p here >>16374212 . Oh well. At least you tried, buddy.
54c112 No.16374826
>>16374732
>>16374749
I haven't tested playing multiplayer with a pirated version myself but I know for a fact that other anons have reported it working.
Do you both have all the expansions? Version 1.1.1.2? Both characters are either softcore or hardcore?
>>16374742
It severely boosts the DPS of your minions. Do you use a movement augment? Glyph of Displacement and Rune of Disorder are great skills which instantly teleports you, have short CD and don't require a target.
Also you should focus entirely on pet bonuses and getting tanky, it shouldn't be a huge problem if you draw aggro for a bit.
There are also items which grant new pets, some of which have taunt. That might help in addition to your other taunt pet(s).
b23822 No.16374840
>>16374826
I don't know about the other anon, but I know I installed patch 1.1.1.2. Softcore character on veteran, almost level 18. Maybe I should try finding the other anon or something?
1bdb78 No.16374851
>>16374826
>Also you should focus entirely on pet bonuses and getting tanky, it shouldn't be a huge problem if you draw aggro for a bit.
Wasn't a big problem on Normal but I'm playing Elite right now and my build is falling apart. I have decent resistances but I fucking die to any major boss because they focus me.
>There are also items which grant new pets, some of which have taunt. That might help in addition to your other taunt pet(s).
I really should be getting one of those.
54c112 No.16374875
>>16374851
What's your second mastery to Occultist?
Are all your points in Physique? Spirit and Cunning don't help your pets deal damage and you'd only want them for the purpose of meeting the minimum requirement of some gear but most caster focused masteries have a high natural bonus to spirit when increasing mastery so everything should go into physique.
If you import your character save into grimtools and link it I could take a look and see if you're accidentally missing out on some easy way to get extra defence.
b23822 No.16374892
I'm building a necromancer, got 16 points in Raise skeletons and 12 points in undead legion. 14 points to spare at this point, should I invest them in reaping strike or drain essence? I like having my own army, so I'm going to focus on summoning, I'm gonna get Summon Blight Fiend, I guess saving up more points is a good idea.
1bdb78 No.16374896
>>16374875
>What's your second mastery to Occultist?
Necromancer
>Are all your points in Physique? Spirit and Cunning don't help your pets deal damage and you'd only want them for the purpose of meeting the minimum requirement of some gear but most caster focused masteries have a high natural bonus to spirit when increasing mastery so everything should go into physique.
Most of them are in physique, I put a few in spirit for minimum requirements.
>If you import your character save into grimtools and link it I could take a look and see if you're accidentally missing out on some easy way to get extra defence.
Sure, any help would be appreciated: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m234Q4EV
deeff1 No.16374904
>>16374896
Get mark of torment and cast it on the boss when it aggros on you, also reclaim those 8 points your aren't using for anything in the occultist mastery
16e957 No.16374908
>>16374749
i got the steam x64 version.
deeff1 No.16374913
>>16374896
>>16374904
Also that pierce resist. Get revered with devil's crossing or cult of bysmiel and fix that up with armor augs
b23822 No.16374928
>>16374908
Well, I have the pirated version. I think it should be the same as yours. Wanna try setting up a game, and I'll try joining?
deeff1 No.16374941
>>16374928
The pirated version is gog, you won't be able to play with steam users without some lan tunneling program
16e957 No.16374948
>>16374928
>>16374941
sorry mate, ran outta free time.
1bdb78 No.16374961
>>16374904
>also reclaim those 8 points your aren't using for anything in the occultist mastery
I didn't even notice that, those must be left over from when I reskilled, thanks. Sadly I can only get the pierce shit at level 90. How should I use the points? Lvl up Master of Death?
b23822 No.16374963
>>16374928
Sure. I'll set the name as Valalaika again, no password.
>>16374941
That makes no sense, if the pirated version, right up there in the OP, is from GOG, why did it open up to steam when I forgot to install the directory?
deeff1 No.16374968
>>16374961
The devil's crossing one is level 70
I'd put them mark of torment and aspect of guardian to help your and your pets survivability.
>>16374963
I didn't check the op
b23822 No.16374972
For some weird reason, whenever I click on exit to main menu, the game crashes to desktop instead. Weird.
>>16374968
We all make mistakes
5cae1d No.16374980
>>16374169
>Best modern diablo-like game currently on the market
How is Grim Dawn compared to Torchlight 2? I'm playing that one and having a ton of fun, might pick up Grim Dawn too.
1bdb78 No.16374992
>>16374968
>Devil's Crossing
>the one Faction I'm not best buddies with
Fuck me.
>>16374980
GD has a lot more content and a lot more variety, the class system is also way better. You should definitely give it a try.
d47be7 No.16374995
>>16374980
Torchlight is a straight fate clone which is a diablo 1 clone. Grim dawn is a diablo 2 clone. Torchlight has specific character classes that cant be changed. Grim dawn allows mixing of classes.
88e899 No.16375000
>>16374980
TL2 is shit and GD is great.
>>16374972
Install c++redistr drivers amd core support etc etc.
b23822 No.16375003
>>16375000
>c++ redistr drivers amd core support
Is that something I can just google for, or is it in the files, tripsman?
1bdb78 No.16375006
The GD forums say that modifiers don't apply to pet attack but surprisingly, it seems that things that proc on attack do. That shit makes no sense but I'm glad that it works that way.
deeff1 No.16375018
>>16375006
Proc on attack don't proc from pet attacks unless its like a devotion you assigned to that pet. Debuffs like curse of frailty count as attacks though.
1bdb78 No.16375055
>>16375018
>Debuffs like curse of frailty count as attacks though.
Ah, that explains it. Also, thanks for the skill suggestions.
1bdb78 No.16375084
Is the Fiend Devotion worth it for the Fire Damage alone? Because at this point all my Skellies are either mage or archer, meaning that they're always in the back, meaning that Fiend proccing doesn't do shit.
54c112 No.16375088
>>16374896
You're spread very thin on skill points, you'll want to beef up your pets a bit.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNkoWOdN
<Occultist
>Decreased Occultist mastery
>Boosted Hellhound a bit
>Casual Solael's Witchfire
<Necromancer
>Maxed Summon Blight Fiend
>Got the Taunt ability for Blight Fiend (really nigger?)
>Got Mark of Torment because it makes you really tanky
>Points in Spectral Wrath for resistance reduction
>Casual point in Ill Omen if you're surrounded or want to trigger Hungering Void devotion
>Casual point in Ravenous Earth, the best devotion proccer in the game
>Foul Earth is worth increasing more for its Resistance Reduction
<Devotions
Tried to improve them a bit. Whilst Manticore is nice, you can also get flat resistance reduction from Foul Eruption (upgrade to Ravenous Earth)
>Added Dying God
Simply an amazing dps devotion, even more so for pet builds
>Added 'Ishtak, the Spring Maiden'
Plenty of pet buffs and the Nature's Guardian proc has a chance to make pets taunt targets that hit you.
>Added Revenant
Skeletons, lots of skeletons.
These 3 alongside Shepherd's Call are the 4 main devotions I aimed for, the rest are just the best filler devotions I could find.
You could get Solemn Watcher instead of Scarab for more survivability, but you'll have to skip the optional point in Dying God.
>Gear
I added a bunch of components which you should have access to, check them out for yourself. Notably Silk Swatches and resistance auras to your weapon and off-hand.
Disclaimer
I haven't played a pet build in ages and don't know the 'optimal' setup so judge the changes I made and form your own opinion. But imo, this is far superior to before.
I don't know what pets are the best besides that the current meta pet build is entirely focused on Summon Familiar and shot gunning their orbs. But that might not be what you want to do with your build.
>>16374992
There are other factions which have multi resistance ones.
>Homestead has fire/pierce
>Black Legion has pierce/poison
>Rovers have pierce/cold
>Cult of Bysmael has 12% pierce
>Coven of Ugdenbog has pierce/chaos
>Malmouth Resistance has pierce/aether
>Cult of Solael has pierce/vitality
54c112 No.16375090
>>16375084
No, there are better options. Made a suggested devotion build for you >>16375088
54c112 No.16375124
>>16375088
>You could get Solemn Watcher instead of Scarab for more survivability, but you'll have to skip the optional point in Dying God.
Wait I'm retarded, you make Revenant pay for itself so you don't need the Chaos Affinity from the crossroads.
Use this devotion setup:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2M5Ja42
1bdb78 No.16375144
>>16375090
>>16375088
>>16375124
In my defence, I followed a Cabbalist build that apparently was super outdated and I have no idea what I'm doing in this game. But that build does look better than mine, I'll try it out immediately.
deeff1 No.16375159
>>16375088
revenant skeletons don't scale with pet bonuses
b23822 No.16375166
>>16375124
Interesting setup. I was thinking of running a pure necro build myself. I never really looked at devotion due to the massive map and lack of "undo points", so I never saw the Revenant constallation. That's really neat. I'll aim for that.
88e899 No.16375174
>>16375166
>undo points
You can respeck completely via potions, and point-by-point via npc.
b23822 No.16375180
>>16375174
I know about the spirit guide npc (point by point), but I wasn't aware of the potions. Thanks.
54c112 No.16375188
>>16375144
The skill build itself might still be okay but the main problem is that you put too many points in both masteries at once while neglecting your pets.
Also because I couldn't fit in Manticore you'll want to level up Foul Earth for the flat RR.
>>16375159
Oh shit, my bad. I'll go back and see how I'd change the build to without Revenant.
>>16375166
>>16375174
The standalone build calculator also has a nice feature called 'Ignore Devotion Requirments' under the settings option making it easier to redo some smaller changes.
If you click the exclamation mark on Grimtools to the left you're taken to the official thread with download links.
deeff1 No.16375200
>>16375188
An offensive devotion like bat or falcon for his skeles would work nicely.
54c112 No.16375240
>>16375200
>>16375188
I managed to add both Bat and Bysmael's Bonds, looks really good now.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYxKWeZ
1bdb78 No.16375624
>>16374169
Is it possible for items to stop dropping once you've reached a certain level? Because I've been trying to get the recipe for Mistborn Talisman but it just won't drop for me, I also am unable to get a normal Troll Crusher.
>>16375240
Thanks again
deeff1 No.16375647
>>16375624
Not sure about recipes but I know if you are too far above the level of an enemy they won't drop crafting materials. That talisman recipe only drops from the 2 troll bosses, one in smuggler's pass and the other in eastern marsh. If you just want a troll bonecrusher for crafting, you can buy one from a hidden vendor northwest of blood grove.
54c112 No.16375654
>>16375624
That blueprint is actually a boss drop from either Balegor, the Swamp King or Voldrak, the Destroyer.
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/208
Troll Bonecrushers tend to drop from trolls, but there's also a vendor like anon above mentioned.
https://www.grimtools.com/db/search?query=troll%20bonecrusher&in_description=1&exact_match=0
1bdb78 No.16375669
>>16375647
>>16375654
>That blueprint is actually a boss drop from either Balegor, the Swamp King or Voldrak, the Destroyer.
I know and I've been farming the Smugglers Pass Shrek for what feels like forever now, but I guess I'm just really unlucky. Should I farm him on Normal or Elite? I've read on the Forums that the recipe supposedly only drops on normal because it's only level 22.
54c112 No.16375705
>>16375669
>I've read on the Forums that the recipe supposedly only drops on normal because it's only level 22.
That seems to be correct, just looked at his 'notable loot list' and it says it only drops for his lvl 22 version.
https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/265/items
deeff1 No.16375766
>>16375705
If that were the case you'd never get it because the minimum level for that area is 25. I'm fairly sure I farmed it at max level ages ago when the cap was still 85.
>>16375669
His Area caps out at level 40 in normal so you should probably be on elite. Even then it caps out at 75 there so you're probably getting reduced drops anyway.
1bdb78 No.16375788
>>16375705
Well guess I won't be getting my item anytime soon, then.
54c112 No.16375843
Hey guys, how good is your fashion?
a6e1da No.16375965
>not naming the thread El grimmest edicion again
pathetic
727437 No.16376065
>>16375965
>naming two consecutive threads the same
Now that would truly be pathetic.
I'll concede having no name at all is a shame though.
54c112 No.16376164
So what's a good farming strategy these days with SR being added?
I can pretty comfortably run 70-75 and while it gives me a fuckton of loot, it's also quite the time investment. Running just 1 shard seems to give pretty shit loot
I can also do 150-160 Crucible with + spawns, reset from checkpoint and do 140-150 which gives me a decent amount of loot.
Right now I'm mainly hunting blueprints because I want the 'Mythical Bernoath, Reforged' and try a physical EoR build.
>>16376065
Sorry I'll try harder next time if creating a new thread falls on me again.
1bdb78 No.16376307
>>16376296
I remember the global chat being a completely lawless shithole where even chink bots were allowed to roam freely. Did he talk to a dev or something?
4305ca No.16376313
New update V1.1.2.0 incoming V1.1.3.0
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83336
They rework existing sets and udjust/fix Shattered Realm.
>The Boss distribution is getting some significant changes as well. First up, we’ve redefined some of our boss categories and added another so that the progression of boss difficulty feels smoother. For example, some tougher bosses will no longer appear at lower Shards at all. Most importantly for those tackling the hardest Shards, you will no longer encounter multiples of certain bosses at all (no more double Grava’Thul dispels). Overall, we think these changes will make the Shattered Realm feel smoother and more rewarding at all levels of play.
New key dungeon
>the grand adventure with Riggs will culminate in our 5th Roguelike dungeon, which means powerful new bosses, awesome loot and of course another take on the Death Room formula!
>>16376184
Rate my.
1bdb78 No.16376324
>>16376313
>you will no longer encounter multiples of certain bosses at all
Thank God.
>some tougher bosses will no longer appear at lower Shards at all
Thank Christ
25ca19 No.16376334
>Pirate
>Go into multiplayer
>Refresh server list
>Never finishes so have to cancel to get a partial list
>Fails to connect to anyone anyways
Not sure if its just the fault of the pirated copies or if its my fault somehow.
d01ef8 No.16376340
Oh shit i post wrong fashion.
51ef4f No.16376347
The only flaw of GD is that most armor sets look so similar you can hardly tell them apart.
These "fashion" pics itt only showcase it. It's either a brown coat or a brown coat with some random bullshit strapped on.
1bdb78 No.16376366
>>16376347
I agree but they've been getting better.
54c112 No.16376379
>>16376313
>Aether Ray now pierces
YES!
470593 No.16376389
How do you make a pet build do high damage? I've tried speccing into devotions with resistance shread and other that proc on crits/hits, and I've tried speccing into purely defensive with some resistance shread and proc on hit with almost no daamage difference. Granted my damage to pets is only at ~900%, but at level 94 will bringing it up to over 1300% make a massive difference?
deeff1 No.16376393
>>16376389
flat damage bonuses
1bdb78 No.16376420
>>16376347
Auras, a lot of auras.
d47be7 No.16377241
What are the best devotions for an inquisitor + demo dual wield pistols build?
0d386c No.16377387
>>16376313
Haha that Jason costume is hilarious, well done. The new expansion has excellent cosplay gear for 2h builds, a lot of which you can purchase from the rep vendors.
>SR76 farming is nerfed
Thank god.
ce5ed8 No.16377398
>>16377387
Is farming just shard 76 and then leaving after first boss room efficient?
868bd4 No.16377823
>>16377629
I don't trust any man that lives in the desert and deals in "deals".
3647a1 No.16378071
>>16377398
Yes, farming SR75-76 is insanely effecient, especially with 3 other bros. Assuming your game doesn't crash and you don't get fucked over by ridiculous mutations you're looking at about 40-50 legendaries per hour (not counting the shattered realm set).
2ae41e No.16378104
Is there any downside to loading backup saves of hardcore characters besides the hit your pride?
e608db No.16378122
>>16378104
I would just GDstash their HC status off and play as normal. Personally hate losing all that progress and not having the character anymore but resetting its status shouldn't be done
2e8c4d No.16378350
>>16378104
Hardcore mode is for faggots in the first place. What's the fucking point?
deeff1 No.16378362
2e8c4d No.16378378
>>16378362
Is it worth the hassle? Can't you just edit your savedata?
deeff1 No.16378395
>>16378378
If that's your point why don't you just edit in all your theorycrafted gear and set you character to max level?
af0082 No.16378641
Haven't played in a while (more like in few years) and the last time i only did so for 20hours or so with the… grenade lobbing spec so dont know jack sheeeeit.
If i want to "go fast", (+movement speed) what should i go with?
deeff1 No.16378648
>>16378641
soldier + nightblade+a movement aug that also teleports you to your enemy.
ce5ed8 No.16378684
Anyone tried a physical Eye of Reckoning build?
I put this together and would like some input:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2M5zaW2
I'm a bit unsure about the relic and medal, I need one of them to enable dual wielding and the top contenders seem to be Korvaak's Brand (medal) or Blademasters Talisman (relic).
The upside to using Korvaak's Brand despite its poor damage type match is Soulfire and its other stats being decent. It definitely seems like the best medal that enables dual wielding anyway.
It also means that I can choose a relic a bit more freely for some free skill points. Ideally I'd want +oathkeeper skills or +all but oathkeeper ones are either elemental or shield focused and the +all are a bit mediocre. I went for Serenity since all its stats are nice and the gear lacks both chaos and aether resistance.
Other relic under consideration is the Deathstalker which has a player scaling minion with -%10 phys res aura.
Now I've put a decent focus on defence but I'll have to play it to see if I need to shift more into damage or possibly even more into defence.
I believe I have all gear available, just need to transmute some of the Warborn set and craft the Beronath and Serenity.
e608db No.16378706
>>16378641
CDR Shadowstrike build with teleports is as fast as it gets but you're gonna have to stick with being a glass cannon
deeff1 No.16378736
>>16378684
Physical EoR is probably gonna get wrecked by monster armor. You don't benefit from elemental storm devotion. Overleveling squad tactics is very inefficient, you could put those points in rebuke or clarity of purpose.
deeff1 No.16378746
>>16378736
Also you might want some more reflection protection like crane, owl, sigil of the bear king, or kymon accessory augments.
ce5ed8 No.16378765
>>16378736
>Physical EoR is probably gonna get wrecked by monster armor
It has -39% phys from Celestial Presence, -32% from Assassin's Mark, 10% reduced from ring and 40 flat reduction from Warcry.
>You don't benefit from elemental storm devotion
Yeah wasn't sure what to do with some leftover points, I know I wont get the shred but thought the AoE internal trauma damage would be a nice bonus.
>Overleveling squad tactics is very inefficient, you could put those points in rebuke or clarity of purpose.
Nice catch, will do.
>Also you might want some more reflection protection like crane, owl, sigil of the bear king, or kymon accessory augments.
Alright I'll see what I can do.
deeff1 No.16378773
>>16378765
Armor comes before resistances. It's mostly an issue on nemesis and super bosses since they can reach pretty high armor values.
af0082 No.16378790
>>16378648
>>16378706
Those seem pretty melee heavy specs, not that i dislike it but im curious how was the ranged in GD again?
I played some mediocre arpg (Viking something something similar to Victor Vran) a while ago and if you tried to go ranged with it which i didnt it'd be really frustrating at times due to camera being too close by, the game targeting shit when you just wanted to move etc etc.
Also speaking of +movement speed bonus, how high does it get with that soldier+nightblade combo? I've been meaning to replay Titan Quest lately but when i look at it and remember how it was the first time i played it through years ago there's no way im doing anything but warfare+hunting spec just for the sake of +movement speed which was the way i did it the first game just because it's such a fucking slog to run around the game on normal pace ie my interest suddenly vanes as i dont want to do the same thing over again.
deeff1 No.16378833
>>16378790
I don't find ranged that much different from melee except it's more forgiving to be squishy since you can kite and avoid damage more effectively. You can change one of your hotkeys to a move button that you can press to ignore all targeting and just move to the location.
Character movement speed is capped at 135% which most builds can reach through devotions and movement speed on shoes. Soldier and night blade though have special skills that make them charge a target at 300% and 500% movement speed. There are also augments that you can put on your medal that give you a skill that does something similar.
e608db No.16378875
>>16378790
Movement speed is pretty easy to cap 135% these days especially if you have something like pneumatic burst active at all times. If you're looking for fast movement speed then "charge" abilities such as blitz or shadowstrike will always be king and therefore melee is your #1 option for gottagofast. Packing big dick CDR with SS is by far the easiest on top of that but there's also CDR Vire's Might which oathkeeper combos might enjoy spamming through maps for going relatively fast.
Ranged/casters are perfectly fine as well and in the endgame you're doing crucible/shattered realm quite a lot which doesn't require too much walking but you're never reaching sanic speeds in main campaign with those guys. Ranged weapons cannot blitz/SS around so your next best bet would be melee caster weapon + charge ability + teleport rune to go sorta fast.
af0082 No.16378892
>>16378875
>>16378833
So i dont necessarily need to go nb or soldier for speed if i dont want to.
From quick glance if i get around to actually playing soldier+demo seems what i'd go for even though i probably did it the first time i played years ago.
Opinions on it?
ce5ed8 No.16378934
>>16378892
Yeah it's a solid combination. Inquisitor is another gun focused mastery you could combo with something like soldier or inquisitor.
The problem with both demolitionist and inquisitor is that they're both not the most durable masteries so I'd advice against combining them at least for someone that is newer to the game.
ce5ed8 No.16378937
>>16378934
>Inquisitor is another gun focused mastery you could combo with something like soldier or inquisitor.
like soldier or oathkeeper*
ce5ed8 No.16378958
>>16378746
>reflection protection
Where can I even see my total on the character sheet? Not finding it.
deeff1 No.16379129
>>16378958
You have to manually add it up
ce5ed8 No.16379271
>>16379129
Oh, thanks. What's a decent minimum I should aim for?
Also I can't really use the Sigil of the Bear king since I need Korvaak's to enable dual wielding. That means I'd have to use my relic for it leaving me with Blademaster's Talisman.
With Serenity (which also adds reflect damage reduction) + Korvaak's I get +1 to all and another +2 to Soulfire.
With Bear king + Blademaster I'd get +2 to EoR (which I can cap even without) and a bit more physical and trauma damage %.
25ca19 No.16379423
Is it worth going melee with Arcanist with the melee aura buff? Or is it more suited for pets? Right now I just map magic missile to my left click instead.
2e8c4d No.16379490
>>16379423
I'd say try it out and see how it goes. Classes in GD tend to be rather accommodating to most everything. Of course that does change when it comes to the very difficult content.
deeff1 No.16379499
>>16379271
Serenity + korvaak's is probably the way to go. With 40% reflect reduction you might actually be ok as long as you watch out for reflect heros. If you find yourself dieing too much to them or just don't want to worry about it, you could change out your ring augments for kymon's fury, trading 10% reflect damage reduction for 50ish OA which you probably have plenty of atm.
bc84ee No.16379504
>>16379423
You can build literally anything on normal and it will work.
ce5ed8 No.16379947
Build performs fairly well but running into some mana issues. Any easy ways to boost my regeneration a bit? The Tree of Life procs help a lot but I need a bit more.
Getting over 400k DPS on 2 target dummies without even popping ascension and it's going to increase as I add missing components I'm still in the process of acquiring.
ce5ed8 No.16380003
>>16379947
Or maybe that's 853k for two targets and ~426k is single target. Not that familiar with the dps calculator. But obviously it will overperform on some low lvl target dummies, on the other hand I have a bunch of boosts to my damage when I get hit which don't get to play their part.
deeff1 No.16380146
>>16379947
1 point in harvestman's scythe or make sacrifices to get bard's harp
ce5ed8 No.16380351
>>16380146
I could remove Panther and Owl to afford Harp, faced some reflect enemies and didn't notice my health drop at all. EoR isn't extremely bursty so I imagine my life steal helps counteract the damage nicely. I already get ~60% from Serenity, Rebuke and Solemn Watcher, if necessary I can always apply an extra augment.
>Want to craft Seal of Annihilation
<16 Chtonic seals and Ogdenbloom
Fucking hell.
6f95bc No.16380482
>>16379947
havent played in a long time and am curious how my old build will work
where do i get this dps calc
ce5ed8 No.16380496
>>16380482
It's one of the features from Grim Internals.
grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53629
3a43b8 No.16381415
Has anyone here managed to kill the Mad Queen on ultimate as a non-tank melee? Ridiculously hard. Was trying to farm the level 94 version of Mad Queen's Claw and she destroyed me, as I just can't keep up the dps to out-damage her self-heal while also avoiding the shotgun reflect.
Leveling up a tanky guy who should be able to farm it easily enough, but still would like to kill her on my Witch Hunter also.
24ad2d No.16381996
>>16381415
>Mad Queen
I just killed her pretty easily with my physical EoR build I've been working on and posting in the thread to get tips for, I'm still working on those expensive components like titan and sacred platings so not even super tanky with my 88% absorption and 2.9k armor.
Post your build if you want some suggestions from the thread. Though haven't personally played a Witch Hunter.
d4b3ea No.16383108
>trying to trade Vanquisher set
>no one have it
>trying to farm
>check wiki and notice it only droped from Transcendent chest at End of the every Key Dungeon.
>droping chance around 4.7%
99dc6a No.16383375
>>16383108
I was dreading the task of having to farm the full Belgothian set. I asked around and within minutes I had traded for 3/4 pieces and a duplicate piece to transmute (completing the set). Granted I have several hundred hours on the game and tons of legendaries, you will get your set much quicker by asking around than by farming. Some bros will just give you items if you play with them for an hour or two.
51f535 No.16383511
>>16379423
Grim Dawn solo self found when :^) ?
24ad2d No.16383536
>>16383108
I have the chest piece of the Vanquisher set, got a Mythical Eternal Band or Mythical Reforged Chains of Oleron to to trade for it?
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9028
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9072
24ad2d No.16383546
>>16383536
>>16383108
Actually just updated my GrimStash and I have the mantle as well.
24ad2d No.16383568
Also felt /fa/, might delete later.
deeff1 No.16386045
87330e No.16386059
>>16386026
These are your options, you're not that limited.
https://www.grimtools.com/db/search?query=melee%20dual-wielding&in_description=1&exact_match=0
Mythical Korvaan's Brand is probably your best option for lvl 94.
cd8cf7 No.16386087
>>16383568
I hate how you always end up pretty much looking the same despite what class you are. There's not a lot of variation.
4cca88 No.16386138
>going to kill boss of ashes
>he deals 10k damage to me instantly
>better luck next time
>what if I dont cahnge anything and try to kill him again
>it works, he barely damages me
Well, it was fucking anticlimactic. But hey, at least I didnt get any meaningful loot.
87330e No.16386152
>>16386138
>All those unfinished quests
My autism can't handle this massive amount of faggotry.
350219 No.16389370
What's a fun build around cold damage? Any playstyle would be fine.
My whole bank is full of cold items and I finally want to use them for a character.
3a43b8 No.16389414
>>16389370
I'm planning a cold-damage build soon too. So far, it seems like some sort of spellbreaker would be best.
I initially wanted to do a cold/aether spellbinder, but seems like I'd have to gimp my aether output to do cold also, so might just do pure aether with that, and go with a spellbreaker of some sort for cold.
Necromancer has the 'Grave Chill' passive which converts 100% of Aether damage to cold, so maybe something with that could work.
82fd04 No.16389416
>>16389370
Rune of Hagarrad based Infiltrator. Massive resist reduction and a big damage nuke.
350219 No.16389495
>>16389416
>>16389414
I'll check them out, thank you.
82fd04 No.16389509
>>16378773
2300-2800 armor for a nemesis. 3600-4200 for a big bad celestial.
Enemy armor doesn't really mean much when it takes so little damage off. Physical resistance is a much greater priority, Calagadra has 90% phys resistance, 50% is highest for only 2 nemesis bosses. Armor has a meaningful effect for the player, not really the enemies because the damage ranges are completely different.
4cca88 No.16390379
Now I am officially upgraded from "part of the 0.2%" to "part of the 0%".
519530 No.16390847
>>16383546
Sorry IRL problems. Do you have time to trade?
0a4633 No.16391456
>>16389522
Here is a new fiendflesh hood - composed from Pakla Skins and Murderer Hood.
edbd43 No.16394881
My current build looks like this: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/vNQWEAMV , and I want to know where should I put the rest of the skill points. I'm aiming for cold/lightning aa character.
799fa4 No.16394982
>>16376296
>two genders
>getting banned for being a stupid cuck that doesn't even know that gender is a linguistics term, not synonymous with sex and only recently popularized by kike psychopath 'doctor' John Money
I love when leftists eat one another.
838a2a No.16394990
>>16389414
TSS spellbreaker is considered very good. They're a bit reliant on gear to really shine though.
f09195 No.16395108
>>16394881
Nightblade has several things you could put points into that'll increase cold damage.
deeff1 No.16395148
>>16394881
Get lethal assault. sort of a pain to keep it up but it's a big damage buff.
edbd43 No.16395831
>>16395148
Are ~100 OA @ max level worth autistically upkeeping 4 second buff? I've been thinking more about leveling up passives a bit.
deeff1 No.16395890
>>16395831
It's more for the flat damage, level 15 (the max level in that build currently) is 71 cold damage and another 17.75 from converting acid. 89 cold damage. That's like 70% of his mainhand weapon's damage right there. You can see for yourself the huge increase by looking at the weapon attack before and after putting points in it, 3719>6212.
838a2a No.16396141
>>16395890
that or get more points in pnuematic burst's synergies. +ele damage or flat % to evade is fantastic.
3a17be No.16398162
Do you guys think that being able to put multiple devotion spells on one ability would be too broken?
4cca88 No.16398820
>>16398162
Not really but it will make build making more simplistic.
deeff1 No.16399399
>>16398162
>multiple attack devotions bound to eye of reckoning
I wish
968dc8 No.16399532
>>16398820
>>16398162
>>16399399
I think there are multiple factors to consider.
Not being able to tie multiple devotions to the same skill makes certain skill based builds more active since it creates an incentive to pick up extra skills used for the sole reason of procing devotions and makes the player push extra buttons.
On the other hand some masteries have no such skills at all (Oathkeeper for example) and if they're not paired with a mastery which does, they become very limited when it comes to choosing devotions.
Eye of Reckoning is a prime example of the latter, even if you use Necromancer or Inquisitor which have Stormbox and Ravenous Earth you're still very limited when it comes to choosing multiple proc devotions. At most you could get away with maybe 3 such devotions, 1 to EoR, 1 to Guardians and 1 to one of the previously mentioned skills.
But if you could tie multiple to devotions to one skill certain ones would become incredibly OP, especially skills like EoR, AAR or Stormbox and Ravenous Earth since they could just shit out infinite procs.
My 'balanced' solution would probably be to let players tie additional devotions to upgrades of skills, unless they're an attack replacer.
968dc8 No.16400661
How would you put together a fire based Aegis of Menhir build? This is my take on it.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GXYeqV
It's lacking a bit in defensive devotions, not sure if I should sacrifice some stuff to make it tankier.
fbf238 No.16402464
I'm confused, which one of these two is better?
e65311 No.16402698
complete fucking newfag here, have some previous experience with D2 and PoE; suggest me some class combination/devotion thingy that plays similarly to a caster of sorts as a starter build
4cca88 No.16402723
>>16402464
That depends, but in general its not really worth to waste time optimizing it too much. Just pick whatever deals sama damage as what you choose.
>>16402698
Play whatever sounds better for you. Putting a lot of points into one skill is much better than putting points into few skills (at least at the start of the game). Dont use 2nd class until at least level 30.
And melee dont suck ass, so you can play as melee character without any problem.
cfac0c No.16403074
I updated GD up to 1.1.1.2, and downloaded the latest released edition of Grim internal, and regardless I still get the error that Grim dawn.exe is the wrong filesize. Anyone know what's up with that? Should I just downgrade Grim internals?
4cca88 No.16403092
>>16403074
32/64 problems?
cfac0c No.16403285
>>16403092
no idea. Grim internal is 64 yeah, and the game ought to be 64 since I ripped it from OP's link
88ea6b No.16408344
Anyone have a good Colossal Bulwark shield with Fire/Aether damage and high Phys res% stat?
adbf14 No.16408606
Is the boost to internal trauma damage from cunning worth putting points into it? My main damage is from IT but I've just been putting every point into physique.
350219 No.16410523
Is there a better way to farm Cronley's Gang reputation than clearing Staunton Mine, Four Hills and Cronley's Hideout with a few bounties in between?
I just reached Hated and it's a massive slog.
be7c0a No.16410627
Just hit lvl 30 with my Oathkeeper, recommend me a good second class, I'm trash at this game.
4cca88 No.16410655
>>16408606
>cunning
Its mostly for weapon requirements and OA. OA is the most important stat for damage. "Increases" for damage do add up, but in the end +100% damage will make you deal 5% more damage when you stack "increased damage" to 2000%.
>>16410627
Whatever has buffs for same damage types you are using or cool shit you want to use or survivability buffs you like. Or just pick whatever sounds cool for you.
>>16410523
I just did hideout. They had like 10 or so uniqe mobs. It gives around 500 rep per run.
0d386c No.16412966
>>16410523
Cronley's hideout is the best rinse/repeat farm method. You get Moneybag Martin + Cronley plus a handful of Star Monsters. I had a warrant from nemisis farming so it took me about 6 full runs to go from 50% to 100%.
e3b59a No.16413880
Pistol and shield Paladin is surprisingly effective, way more survivable than a dual wielding Purifier for example. The flat damage from Safeguard is also so amazing that I end up losing about ~200 dps if I equip another pistol.
Will move onto a Rune of Kalastor and Aegis of Menhir build once I hit 94 and can use the Virtue's Armor set.
a79a8f No.16413957
Alright, I definitely regret combining Oathkeeper+Nightblade. Horrible combination.
e3b59a No.16413981
>>16413957
Haven't tested it myself but it should be okay for a poison/acid build. Maybe something along these lines.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YZe08okV
Not super familiar with Nightblade so maybe I'm missing some good stuff.
Spent a few devotion points on stuff that seems to offer good synergy but left some over, maybe some more survivability would be nice.
Overall it's far from optimized and just something I threw together, it's more of a proof of concept showing that Dervish seems pretty solid on paper.
838a2a No.16414226
>>16413981
You can make dervish work, but it'd be something more like
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4VxOgml2
265012 No.16420682
Is this Awesome?
Yes? No? Wat?
4cca88 No.16420691
>>16420682
No. Map being hidden only helps and tells you where to look for stuff like oneshot chests. Maphack only useful in generated maps, its completely useless in GD.
5f897e No.16421333
>>16374169
How's the multiplay?
>>16374980
GD better than TL2? Dem's fighting words!
4478f9 No.16422135
Can anyone here help me with my skill build, please? Even though I instantly kill every normal mob, bosses take forever to kill. I tried maxing ascension but I didn't see any noticeable difference, maybe it's because I'm doing a spin to win build. Ignore the resistances, my gear is garbage at the moment because I focused on rushing through normal with this char.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNkojD4N
838a2a No.16422361
>>16422135
well if you're having a massive issue with dps the easiest solution would be swap to a decent 2hander as you don't really benefit from your nonexistent retaliation damage or have anything that plays off your shield. Also drop all but one from guardian and put it in their reduce resistance skill. I don't quite get why you have so many points in rebuke when you have very low retaliation damage, those can be moved to more of the soldier tree, field command would help a massive amount for example. I wouldn't put the points in volcanic stride and tetonic shift, because that's very low damage return for those points at that point in time. You only need one point in resilience.
Your devotions are a bit of a mess, Eldritch fire is doing very little for you, Ghoul is alright, but you'd be better off getting something that gives flat fire/phys than anything else. I don't get the two one off points in viper and lizard.
I mean aside from that the only thing I can say is that you have some pretty bad gear for your damage type. Your belt is doing absolutely nothing for you, you have spellwoven threads which isn't doing basically anything for you.
5174f8 No.16422447
>Unoptimized lvl 96 Paladin build missing 26 devotion points
>Over 220k EoR DPS
I wonder how it holds up against cyclone builds, I feel like Inquisitor offers more survivability and -RR (can take advantage of Celestial Presence) but the wind devils of cyclone probably add a hefty chunk of DPS.
deeff1 No.16422459
>>16422135
It looks like you're trying to go fire damage but you have no physical to fire damage conversion anywhere, get enchanted flints or searing embers on your weapons for starters and also look out for weapons with physical to fire on them already.
deeff1 No.16422477
>>16422135
>>16422459
Additionally, get celestial presence for RR, safeguard for more flat damage, and drop veterancy.
5174f8 No.16422486
>>16422135
>Get a Relic, literally any Relic is better than none
>Keep an eye out for a better medal
>Put components in all your gear.
>Try to get at least one faction to revered for armor augments to help with resistances.
>If you want to use a shield, max safeguard
>Max Celestial Presence, leave Guardian's at 1
>Rebuke doesn't do much, get Rebuke and Overguard for more survivability
>Casual point in Blitz for mobility
>Veterancy is sort of bad, put those in Shield Mastery
>Look for conversion items so your EoR isn't split in 3 between physical, lightning and fire (preferably focus on physical as a Warlord)
>If you go for physical, get Assassin's Blade
>If you keep using a shield, Shield Maiden and Obelisk offer great survivability
The biggest reason for you dying often is sort of low resistances (mainly Aether and Poison/Acid), no Overguard or other skills which improve your shield usage.
Either drop your shield or get skills and devotions that synergize with it.
Repeated a bunch of points from the other anons but they also make some other good points.
>>16422361
>>16422459
>>16422477
5174f8 No.16422493
>>16422486
>>16422135
Also Eye of Reckoning benefits the most from flat damage bonuses and attack speed, so look for that when possible. It's also a very good ability for lifesteal. Put 'Restless Remains' on your gloves for easy 3% lifesteal.
000000 No.16423957
>>16336105
Get raped and kill yourself you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.
You deserve to be burned alive and buried in a landfill with the rest of the garbage, you subhuman shit smear.
50791c No.16423969
>>16423957
What did he post that offended you so?
4cca88 No.16424024
>>16421333
>How's the multiplay?
Dead and apparently it causes some problems like fps drops. And I dont think it would be that fun to play with someone, except crucible maybe. "Everything is fun with friends" still applies, but I say that MP would not bring any additional enjoyment to the game.
deeff1 No.16424035
>>16424024
Shattered realms is pretty good with a buddy. One person tanks and the other person goes full glass cannon. Emphasis on cannon, don't go melee.
000000 No.16424114
>>16423969
Drink bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you fucking failed abortion.
265012 No.16424115
Starting the game for the first time. How far can I get with these skills?
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXqvWX2
838a2a No.16424137
>>16424115
I mean, they'll get you through normal alright? You'd need to do some tweaking on exact values for each skill. Also devotions are just as important if not more important than your skill build, so try to work those more.
265012 No.16424263
>>16424137
Finished devotion, but I don't like that I have three devotion skills I can't use due to lack of bindings.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/Q2zqanAN
Added Ghoulish Hunger
Replaced Aetherfire with Eldritch Fire for -fire resist
Replaced Falcon Swoop with Meteor Shower
265012 No.16424290
>>16424263
Maybe switch Throne for Mantis
838a2a No.16424292
>>16424263
I mean I'd say try it out. I don't want to tell you "okay ranged 2hander fire striker goes and does X,Y,Z and focuses on these specific devotions" because respeccing is very cheap in this game. What you have there is good enough to get you through vet mode without much trouble. You'll run into some trouble on elite and ultimate because of some other factors.
I will say you should probably throw a one off point into Menhir's will, because it'll keep you alive sometimes.
deeff1 No.16424338
>>16424263
Ulzuin's wrath isn't particularly good. You may not need decorated soldier and you don't have to get demonic flames to get agonizing flames. Max thermite mines instead for RR and put a point in mortar trap and they can both proc some devotions for you. For example, fissure on mortar and flame torrent on mines. You can also probably count on at least 2-3 all skill points to one of your classes. Once you get some more skill points from gear, try to max agonizing flames for even more RR and maybe flashbang for DA shred. Get viper instead of panther and drop imp and take a point out of ghoul and torch to max chariot for more OA.
>>16424292
Menhir's will doesn't work with ranged weapons
4cca88 No.16424867
>farming krieg set
>killed krieg 9 times, got 3 chests
>killed other 2 bosses 50 times each and got 2 boots and 1 gloves
And I dont even need it yet.
3a43b8 No.16424894
So I was doing challenger crucible, and on wave 115 came across some maggots that are impossible to kill. At the very least, none of the types of damage I dealt had any effect on them, no matter how many times I hit them (fire, physical, chaos, vitality). They stayed and kept attacking me all the way up until wave 120, when, after I killed the last guy left alive on that wave (Fabius), they all died with him. Five waves of invincible maggots hitting me and fucking me up. Nice job Crate.
3a43b8 No.16424954
>>16424941
Yeah, Krieg's is one of the sets that doesn't let you transmute, since it's farmed specifically and not randomly.
a1e879 No.16424958
>>16424941
MIs can't be morphed you double nigger
a012a1 No.16424969
>>16424954
>>16424941
My bad.They really should let you do that, though.
f20ec3 No.16425116
>>16422459
>>16422361
>>16422477
>>16422486
>>16422493
Alright, thanks a lot. I fixed my shit a bit (however my gear is still garbage because I haven't found anything better yet) but I am completely lost when it comes to spending my skill points. I kind of want to go shield build since apparently you can still block during EoR but I haven't found anything useful yet. I feel like my devotions are alright though, I'm aiming for Ulzuin's Torch, to get that sweet meteor shower for EoR and replace Eldritch Fire, I had to get Hawk because I don't have enough green points and Ulzuin's Torch sadly doesn't pay for itself. Please bully me until my build is good: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2M5R0l2 .
4cca88 No.16425126
>>16425116
Veterancy is shit, fighting spirit is good, clarity of purpose is 1 point only, haven and rebuke are both good. Skills on vire might are useless too, its movement skill, nothing more. Aegis of menhir is good utility for 1 point, to kill random mob which stands too far when you dont want to walk to it or when you want to aggro the pack so it starts moving towards you, etc.
a012a1 No.16425136
>>16425116
Rebuke is worth at least a casual point for its flat physical damage. Shield Training does nothing if you don't use a shield. Put those Veterancy points into Ascension. Craft an Enchanted Flint and put on your weapon.
It seems like you're going for some health regeneration build with Veterancy, Lizard and Behemoth but life steal is a lot better for that purpose, especially for EoR builds.
>had to get Hawk
Never feel bad for picking Hawk, all builds need OA and crit damage is always nice.
Fiend isn't as good as other alternatives, get Rhowan's Crown for elemental resist reduction.
Pic is how I'd change devotions without imposing too much on your decisions. Behemoth is fine, probably even more so at your lvl but it wouldn't be my #1 choice.
And honestly, you'll want to switch to a physical build in the lategame when you have access to elemental conversion, or switch soldier to a different mastery such as Inquisitor or Demolitionist for fire or Shaman for lightning.
f20ec3 No.16425218
>>16425126
Alright, thanks as always.
>>16425136
Is Eldritch Flame really better than Meteor Shower?
3a43b8 No.16425225
>>16425218
They're both good, since Eldritch Flame gives RR which helps the Meteors.
f20ec3 No.16425228
>>16425225
But I can't have both on EoR, should I put Eldritch Flames on my guardians?
3a43b8 No.16425229
f20ec3 No.16425232
>>16425229
Alright, guess I'll drop fiend then.
3a43b8 No.16425239
>>16425232
I haven't checked your build like some others have, so you might not need to. It depends if you have fire RR from other sources or not. It's really helpful though, especially since bosses like Shar'zul are fucking annoying with a fire-focused build.
f20ec3 No.16425259
Alright goys, this is my build right now. I got some slightly better equip so my resistances (for the most part) aren't complete garbage anymore. However, I don't know if I should go Eldritch Flame or Meteor, EF is the only thing I have enough points for atm. I also have +10 skillpoints and no idea how to spent them, what should I max next?
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2drkAQZ
a012a1 No.16425267
>>16425225
>>16425218
>>16425228
Stacking Resist Reduction is always a good way to increase your damage output by a significant amount since it has the potential to put enemies on negative resistance values.
And you can't tie multiple devotion procs to EoR but something that is commonly overlooked is that the % chance of procs increases based on CD of the skill. So you can put Meteor Storm (which can only trigger every 3.8 seconds) on Judgement making it 100% chance to proc every time you cast it. The skill itself has a 5sec CD (and there are items that reduce its CD or just CD in general) giving Meteor Storm a high uptime.
I'd tie Rhowan's Crown to guardians, Eldritch Flame to EoR and Meteor Storm to Judgement.
Also getting Fissure from Magi might be a bit more troublesome (it's probably the weakest of the 4 but would probably work decently with Aegis of Menhir. Or skip it and spend it on something more defensive.
a012a1 No.16425288
>>16425259
Get Field Command from Soldier or Judgement + Crushing Verdict from Oathkeeper.
I've heard that 2H weapons aren't ideal for EoR because most of its damage comes from flat damage and not as much from weapon damage % and it's easier to get 1H with attack speed %.
Though I'm sure it's perfectly fine for lvling since you don't have access to some of the really good gear.
With that in mind, absolutely get the Kraken devotion for now. Not only does it give you 20% attack speed but it also has X% to all damage nodes which is good for you since you're currently not able to convert all your damage into a single type.
Drop Scholar's Light and the optional from Ghoul (+15 spirit, +15 physique, +15 DA), add a blue point to the crossroad and spend 3 points in Kraken to get both 10% attack speed nodes (you can afford this right now). After that I'd probably finish Kraken.
Meteor Shower is great and worth working towards after that. And again, do not remove Eldritch Fire for the sake of Meteor Shower, use both and tie Meteor Shower to Judgement when you unlock it.
f20ec3 No.16425353
>>16425267
>>16425288
Wow, thanks. But now I'm 5 green points short of being able to skill Ulzuin's Touch. What's gonna be the next step of my devotion master plan?
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jYjPjN
f20ec3 No.16425362
HOLY SHIT YOU CAN HAVE A PET DINOSAUR!
a012a1 No.16425372
>>16425353
Scholar's Light and a point in the green crossroads puts you at 15. It's a decent devotion especially if you want those green affinities, I just suggested you remove it in order to prioritise Kraken since it's such a big boost for your build.
a3adfd No.16425376
Is this game worth buying? i have some left over good goy steam money from selling CSGO shit
f20ec3 No.16425378
>>16425376
If you like Diablo clones, definitely.
f20ec3 No.16425387
>>16425372
Alright, will do.
b103ae No.16425426
>>16425376
sure, if you like the genre
give it a couple of hours to get used to the camera movement and you'll be hooked
06c09b No.16425506
Anyone cared about the lore?
I really enjoy the setting so far. It kind of reminds me of the Malazan novels. There are so many similarities it makes me wonder if the writer read the books too.
Black Legion and Bridgeburners are both expendables that turned into an elite division of the emperor through being battle hardened and natural selection by the harsh conditions they went through.
The way magic seems to work is kind of similar to how warrens work in Malazan. Arcanists seem to draw upon the magical power within the realm the Aetherials inhabit itself, followers of the Three draw upon the eldritch realm to name a few.
The way the Three usurped the eldritch realm, can be paralleled with how it was possible to ascend to godhood by claiming the throne of shadow.
Talking about Forgotten Gods, it positively surprised me.
I didn't expect that the faction you could join in homestead could actually turn into the main antagonists despite what was revealed with Kymon's Chosen quests. You start becoming less wary of the shady Three just to learn Korvaak was actually not as bad as you thought he was.
Now I'm left wondering how much Dreeg actually sees and how much of their plans actually are to the benefit of humanity instead of their own selfish needs. It really seems like Korvaak had a much better chance fighting C'thon or the possible threat of Yugol when even in his weakened state and being chained he managed to kick out all Three with just a few worshipers.
e608db No.16425567
>>16425362
reach deeper into the shattered realm and you'll get another critter
f20ec3 No.16425652
>>16425567
>they could've implemented everything
>a dog
>a bat
>a spider
<instead they added a fucking maggot
e608db No.16426861
>>16425652
A celestial maggot. A cute little pal to take with you on adventures as a reward for getting mauled to death repeatedly by multiple nemesis bosses in the corner of a map for a few hundred floors
ff4e76 No.16427147
>>16425506
The lore seems interesting to say the least, they sure give a shit about the story.
4cca88 No.16427253
>>16425506
Most of my post is a spoiler so I would not bother hiding anything.
>reminds me of the
because everything is generic but with "and than s/he turned out to be Satan". It might as well remind of of CnC since green crystal shit and alien invasion. But this time aliens and demons from hell invading at the same time. But thankfully half of the demons from hell come back on the side of humans, because they want to eat them later and because they hate aliens a whole lot. And some aliens decide to stop bothering humans because fuck everything.
Black legion did not turn elite, they just survived.
>I didn't expect that the faction you could join in homestead could actually turn into the main antagonists
It was revealed pretty much from the start. And Eldrich Sun is not the main antagonist, Chton is. And half of faction worship different devils.
Also all of them bitch about "humans need help from satan to defeat supersatan! They will help us! But not now, later. This time they are busy. But now you go and kill satan and defeat alien army. And than gods will help us, probably." If they had any logic they should start worshiping protagonist. Even fucking modrogen "I am busy standing here, so go and clear my stuff for me, thanks."
it would be nice if they recognized the fact that protagonist done more than everyone else combined. Or at least shit their pants when he talks to them.
>hello stranger, how about you kill Deathgaze the Murderous for us
>killed him already
>than how about you kill Venomtongue the Treacherous
>killed him already
>Well, what about Devilord the Great
>I killed everything on this side of the world
>thanks, take these 10 scraps.
In the end its not bad for this kind of game. Better than the most in this kind of games. But still, you should not pretend that its great or deep in any way.
deeff1 No.16427468
>>16427253
>Black legion did not turn elite, they just survived.
They survived because they're elite. The Black Legion are criminals turned soldiers through mind control magic. They are 100% completely loyal to the emperor because of this. If you talk to the captain in homestead she tells you she is even aware of this herself but doesn't care and at one point she was kidnapped from the black legion by her former family but escaped and returned to service. They would die for the emperor without a second thought if they thought that was the best course of action.
>And Eldrich Sun is not the main antagonist, Chton is.
The end all, be all antagonist is Yugol, which is basically a black hole threatening to eat everything and only gods can stave it off. You learn this in the shattered realms notes. Shattered realms is what happens when your planet has no gods to fight off Yugol. Yugol is the reason Korvaak was concentrating on recovering his strength before he got betrayed and is also what he alludes to with his final words after you defeat him. Chthon is basically super Ravager.
>it would be nice if they recognized the fact that protagonist done more than everyone else combined.
Read Creed's journals. In one of the last ones he speculates your character is on the path to ascension to divinity. Mogdrogen as you mentioned asks you to clear his precious grove for him. If you talk to him again later after forgotten gods, he says some stuff about how the three have tricked you for their own gain and, if you resurrected Ravager, so has Ravager. He has even more dialogue if you killed Ravager afterwards. It's also not like other characters aren't doing anything. Particularly, Ulgrim kills the loghorean after you banish it back to the void. The witch cults are fighting korvaak's chosen and eldritch beasts through out the expansion and in the base game you frequently find death's vigil/kymon's chosen fighting each other, aetherials, and chthonians. It's a shame there aren't more notes similar to Creed's journal that shows the thoughts of other characters after you meet them or perform great deeds.
>"humans need help from satan to defeat supersatan! They will help us! But not now, later. This time they are busy
They probably actually are busy fighting Yugol or something similar. I think in the note Korvaak drops it mentions most of them went insane or something after a big war and Korvaak was one of the few that made it back to Cairn.
4cca88 No.16427586
Finally finished Krieg set. Got 4 gloves and 3 body armors. I feel like Krieg droprate is much better than other bosses. I got 1 item each 3 runs compared to 1 per 20-30 for other 2 bosses. Gloves and shoulders are the fucking worst to get as result. Also if you plan to farm it, put all particles and effects to minimum because green shit all over the fucking screen, I fucking hate is so fucking much, I should have farmed bastion of chaos instead.
>>16427468
> I think in the note Korvaak drops it mentions most of them went insane
I think he just call them dicks and assholes.
adbf14 No.16427994
What do you think is the best class for playing with a single mastery? I've always choose two so I'm curious about how using just one would go. The loss of the extra stats might be annoying, but I think a lot of classes would be fine on their own. Oath is pretty solid, necro would probably be fun, soldier would probably be a little boring but fine. I haven't messed with arcanist or nightblade so I don't know about those.
8697e4 No.16428899
>>16427994
Raven focused pet Occultist is probably pretty high tier.
063200 No.16429101
>>16374169
I'm the Warlord build retard from yesterday, and I plan to eventually drop 2H so that I can use the "Completely Normal Shield" since it basically has absolutely everything I need. And I wanted to ask, what devotion should I pick instead of Kraken? And what shield skills from the Soldier tree are worth it? Also, Jesus Christ, FG is absolute torture if you're fire damage only, I don't take any damage but I don't deal any either. I think I'm just going to skip it and try my luck again when I'm at Ultimate.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYxL6rZ
>>16427994
Probably Soldier.
bda9ed No.16430150
Leveling a Cold Infiltrator (Inquisitor/Nightblade) caster right now. Night's Chill and Aura of Censure reduce resistance by a ton and with the new scarab shield with added elemental damage to censure aura I don't even have to attack anymore. Just running through hordes of enemies popping in 2 ticks and proccing a ton of chance on attack/hit shit I'm also wearing.
Almost feels like playing a retaliation build but it actually works against ranged.
deeff1 No.16430356
bda9ed No.16430401
>>16430356
I didn't think of making a viable endgame build with this. Even just the shield adds 120 elemental damage at lvl 55 which is insane.
Not sure if it would be a good idea to run Infiltrator if I just care about aura damage.
Gonna try to find a build that would work.
838a2a No.16430728
>>16427994
Demo works super easily, he's got a really solid kit.
b7e90b No.16431572
I need some advice on gearing my Fire EoR Paladin. The issue I'm facing is capping both EoR and Soulfire at 26/26 and 22/22 respectively while also minmaxing the other equipment.
The two bigger concerns/issues I've run into are the 4-set Justicar Guard bonus and Ignaffar's Combustion Relic. I want both of these (ideally) but don't believe it's possible to max EoR and Soulfire at the same time.
>Closest I got is 25/26 and 22/22:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V0R1xXN
<Maybe the relic makes up for the dps loss of not maxing EoR
>This is 26/26 22/22 without Ignaffar's Combustion
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNkopzDN
<A bit better defence than other version.
>This is 26/26 22/22 with Ignaffar's but no 4-set bonus
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YVW8WaJZ
<I could skip the 4-set bonus and use Raveger's Dreadgaze for its +1 to all skills. But honestly this feels the weakest out of the 3.
37daa2 No.16432239
>>16431572
Updated them with some skill adjustments and augment minmaxing.
>Full Justicar with Ignaffar's Combustion relic - 25/16 and 22/12
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m2341WnV
>3-set Justicar with Ignaffar's Combustion - 26/16 22/12
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/pZrApXjV
>Full Justicar without Ignaffar's Combustion - 26/16 22/12
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2BYgDzN
>Alternate ring/belt setup of Justicar without Ignaffar's Combustion - 26/16 22/12
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gE6r7Z
37daa2 No.16432302
>>16432239
Fucked up, third and fourth build are the same. Also I'm the anon which posed the original question, new ID.
>Full Justicar without Ignaffar's Combustion - 26/16 22/12
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/Q2zq0JRN
>Alternate ring/belt setup of Justicar without Ignaffar's Combustion - 26/16 22/12
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1413P2
These two are the ones I believe in the most.
37daa2 No.16433040
>>16431572
>>16432239
>>16432302
Quad-posting because I'm retarded. The first and last build are basically identical besides the swapped relic and me not optimizing the augments/components very well on the former.
Updated the two I consider top contenders. Also switched the optional point from Ulzuin's Torch to a casual Empty Throne for 15% stun resistance.
>25/16 EoR with Ignaffar's Combustion
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN44pQQN
>26/16 EoR with Serenity
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV14pGM2
So it all comes down to how much much dps I lose for missing 1 point in EoR vs the tankier build with less -10% less RR, ~6% attack speed and ~40% less fire damage loss but with +1 to Oathkeeper.
Honestly leaning towards using Serenity since I don't think damage is my number 1 concern.
Also wondering about weapon components. Maybe it's worth using two Seal of Blades on both weapons for its lifesteal effect. Thoughts? I'd lose dps but gain a decent amount of tankiness both through lifesteal and its armour boost.
Alternatively I could use one Seal of Might instead 2 of Blades for the 4% physical resistance (and minor damage boost due to me converting physical to fire).
61de74 No.16434837
>>16429101
Maybe a bit late of a reply but Shield Maiden and Obelisk of Menhir are MVP when it comes to shield-only Devotions.
I've personally played with the concept of a shield on a Warlord EoR build but it's really hard to fit it.
Ideally you'll want to go physical (since Soldier offers no elemental synergy) and the best EoR set for that is the Warborn Bastion
https://www.grimtools.com/db/itemsets/104
Now comes the problem of converting all that elemental damage to physical. And the only realistic way of doing that whilst using the Warborn set, is to dual wield a Beronath.
https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9466
As for your current build:
You need to stop being such a jew, use components on all your gear. Doesn't matter if they're somewhat shitty, everything helps.
Do you still not have a single faction at revered? Make it a priority to get at least one to that for those armour augments.
Get 12/12 Squad Tactics.
Bump up Judgement a few points for quality of life, its AoE increases a lot.
Scars of Battle can be a decent survivability investment (8 points away in soldier tree).
If you want more HP, Haven is solid.
8c833b No.16435855
>>16434837
Alright, so 2H EoR is the way to go? Guess picking Soldier wasn't the best idea then.
164612 No.16435867
Why does this game seem so easy?
e608db No.16435907
>>16435867
It's always easy unless you're using sub-optimal builds or lack proper gear. That's what hardcore is for though, no mistakes allowed kinda raises the bar somewhat especially when going against superbosses. My first ravager clear using a spellbreaker took maybe 7 tries and you wouldnt have that luxury on HC
deeff1 No.16435916
>>16435867
There's a lot of level of difficulty for content. I'm not talking about normal or elite. Shattered realms, crucible, and superbosses are all fairly challenging. If you can't do those then nemesis or roguelikes are less challenging but still give something. And below those is just basic boss farming which would be the lowest difficulty.
81eecc No.16436678
Where the fuck do my fps go whenever I spin the camera for more than 90 degrees?
838a2a No.16437443
>>16435855
what? the EoR set is one handed. A lot of people use one of the medals that let you DW melee weapons. Warlord is fine for EoR, you just need one of those medals.
3a43b8 No.16437477
>>16435867
The normal campaign is mind-numbingly easy all through veteran and most of elite. The gap between elite and ultimate is fairly large, though. I could facetank Mad Queen on elite easily, but can't kill her yet on ultimate. Mogdrogen is killable on elite, but only highly-specialized builds can take him on ultimate. Likewise, other bosses require lots of preparation too. Shar'zul reduces your fire resistance by 80% or so on ultimate, so you need to be hugely overcapped. Gargabol or w/e his name is, last boss of Ancient Grove, in spite of moving slowly, deals huge damage so is very tough for non-tanky melee builds.
Also, gladiator crucible can be extremely hard for some people. Plenty of other stuff that's hard, as well.
The main story bosses aren't nearly as difficult as some others, though. Ultimate Theodin was a breeze, same w/ ultimate log, etc.
So, if you're judging it just based on normal/elite difficulty, yeah it's very easy, but it does get harder.
afb2fc No.16438099
>>16435855
Nah class setup just determines which damage type your build is suited for.
<Oathkeeper +
Soldier = physical /w Warborn set & Beronath (dual wielding)
Shaman = lightning /w Cyclone set (melee & caster off-hand)
Inquisitor = fire /w 2x Alladrah's Spellblade (dual wielding)
Demolitionist = see above
Occultist = chaos /w Mythical Wrath of Tenebris (two-handed)
Occultist = acid /w Mythical Agony + ?
Nightblade = cold /w Mythical Gravetouch & Chillheart (sword & board)
Shaman = bleed /w Mythical Scion of Crimson Wakes or Gutsmasher
In my opinion, Soldier, Shaman and Inquisitor are the best. I've played around with the grimtools builder a lot but only played Soldier and Inquisitor EoR builds.
I believe that the strongest builds are those focusing on something that Oathkeeper has -RR for. Those being physical, fire, bleed, vitality, poison & acid. But I question bleed EoR builds since you'll generally want bursty sources of bleed damage, not small consistent ones.
afb2fc No.16438121
>Dealing 75k dps to training dummies by just standing near them
>Deal upwards of 145k when sending my lvl 5 guardians at them
I wonder just how strong a build you can create which passively deals damage without retaliation. Maybe some build with oathkeeper + nightblade focusing on Blade Spirit and Guardian of Empyrion.
0b7dd3 No.16438122
afb2fc No.16438123
>>16438122
Curiosity mixed with a pinch of building autism?
482e3b No.16438270
>>16425652
Could be worse, or better depending on your perspective.
b103ae No.16438364
>>16438121
>barely 15k dps
>lvl 86
>despite all the tips from you guys
is it because I'm playing on Elite or because I'm still not wearing a mythical set?
3a43b8 No.16438369
>>16438364
Depending on your build, the flat dps isn't necessarily how much dps you actually do. It only takes into account the skills bound to the right/left MB.
For example, my Witch Hunter only has his profile display 30k dps, but there are poison ticks of 45-50k throughout almost all of every fight going off, which vastly boosts what the true dps is.
241167 No.16438374
>>16438364
Damage per second on charsheet means pretty much nothing. You need mod to see your real dps.
afb2fc No.16438533
>>16438364
Post your current build, also download Grim Internals (link in the OP) to test your dps for real.
b103ae No.16438590
>>16438533
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKznGxZ
I've already posted it before, just recently beat AoM boss after FG.
afb2fc No.16438652
>>16438590
Those guns are bad, they convert part of your physical damage to cold and vitality.
Put Devil-Touched Ammo on both weapons for its phys > fire conversion.
Put components on pants, belt, boots and shoulders.
You can use Canister Bomb ffor CC and devotion procing but don't put more than 1 point in it.
Stormbox of Elgoloth is better than Word of Pain for devotion procing.
Get Brimstone.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVb9ojE2
adc4af No.16438694
>>16437443
Nvm sorry, I misunderstood your post.
>>16438665
>Elite
>lvl 86
>+100 deaths
Oh shit nigger what are you doing?
>>16438099
What devotion should I go for instead of Kraken when I switch to dual wielding? Also, I still have some devotion points left and decided to go for Wendigo since lifesteal seems pretty good with EoR.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/
b103ae No.16438701
>>16438694
>Oh shit nigger what are you doing?
being terrible at videogames, what's it look like?
deeff1 No.16438737
>>16438694
Nice blank build you dumbass. Wendigo isn't that good for lifesteal purposes since the proc only ticks like once per second. It's mostly for sustain while kiting. Bat or revenant would be better, revenant even has attack speed.
d4d24e No.16438771
anyone know when does 1.1.2.0 drop?
adc4af No.16438797
afb2fc No.16438811
>>16438797
Anon, that's the exact same link and build change suggestions I made in >>16438652
If you further modified it and want input, you need to click "get link to this build" again.
afb2fc No.16438816
>>16438797
>>16438811
Wait I just realized you're the Warlord EoR anon?
Regardless you linked the wrong build.
Here's my endgame physical EoR Warlord.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAgo1DN
afb2fc No.16438854
>>16438665
>>16438697
If you want to increase your survivability you must increase your aether, bleeding and pierce resistance. Also remove all points from cunning and put them into physique, only get minimum needed to wield weapons.
Silk Swatch gives 18% pierce and 18% bleeding.
Also put faction resistance augments on all your gear, only your gloves currently has one.
Your armor absorption is bad, get a Scaled Hide component (+35 Armor and increases absorption by 20%).
afb2fc No.16438862
>>16438854
Oh and I'm a big fan of Inquisitor's Seal for added survivability, but I believe you previously said you disliked using it.
b103ae No.16438883
>>16438652
>get Brimstone
but it sucks
>>16438862
Yeah I can't stand still, I keep running and teleporting around to get away from danger
adc4af No.16438924
>>16438811
Wait, what? I've already linked builds multiple times, why isn't it working? Is my clipboard fucked up? Should work this time.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/62a9Yjx2
deeff1 No.16438949
>>16438883
see:>>16438701
Brimstone doesn't suck, it's a big chunk of fire damage for you and it makes your ranged attacks do some aoe. Also, get a different belt that shit is killing your damage.
81eecc No.16438957
Where's the respec bitch after I finish the main story?
afb2fc No.16438965
>>16438883
>Brimstone sucks
At 12/12 before calculating + damage % it does 60 fire damage and 65-84 chaos damage. These split into on average 6 additional damage sources. That's 360 fire damage and ~450 chaos. It's the biggest DPS increase you have access to.
Also more damage sources makes it easier to proc devotions tied to the skill itself and items which grant on-hit stuff like your amulet and relic.
>Yeah I can't stand still, I keep running and teleporting around to get away from danger
Build tankier so you can actually stand still for a while. All bosses aren't really kitable due to their speed. And having to constantly run severely impacts your dps, so you can see increasing survivability = increasing dps.
Shields are perfectly viable for gun builds if you find one with ranged bonuses.
>Stronghold Defender https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8853
>Watcher of Erulan https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8846 Mythical https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8849
>Legionnaire's Rebuke https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8839 Empowered https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8841 Mythical https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/8843
Those are just the straight up ranged weapon shields, there are other which would fit a ranged build too.
>>16438924
I probably hammered you on this in the past, but unlock augments. It will increase your DPS and survivability a lot and is an easy task to accomplish. Just run some bounties.
I'd probably recommend starting with the Witch Gods in FG since you can grind all 3 faction vendors at the same time.
You can switch the gloves Component to Restless Remains for that sweet 3% lifesteal.
For Warlord, I'd recommend going for a physical build, you can see mine here >>16438816
But if you really want to go fire Warlord then do it, it's not bad just not ideal. In that case I imagine something similar to my Paladin fire EoR would be appropriate.
>Current in-game version
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/vNQW5glV
>Goal (just need those damned boots)
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV14pGM2
But my devotion setup is still a work in progress. I think I want to skip Phoenix and squeeze more survivability out of it.
afb2fc No.16438967
>>16438957
She moves to the Witches coven when you start Ashes of Malmouth expansion.
It's an early town. Alternatively go to the Forgotten Gods expansion town and talk to that one.
81eecc No.16438975
>>16438967
I started the Ashes of Malmouth, I'll look for her.
Some people were saying she died in the devil's crossing attack and I got a bit sad.
afb2fc No.16438983
>>16438975
>Spoiler
O-oh, maybe she did? Never paid attention to the NPC's name in the coven town. Could be a different one.
e50875 No.16438997
>>16438975
I think she allah-ackbar'd that monster that tried to wreck Devil's Crossing. Not 100% sure on that though, haven't had a new character reach AoM content in a while.
b103ae No.16439003
>>16438965
I picked up a Blazeguard Arbiter after beating FG.
>do brimstone, faggot
huh, 5k DPS damage increase
afb2fc No.16439098
>>16439003
Yeah you have over 1k fire damage % bonus compared to your 260% physical damage.
The Firestrike skill itself deals 123% weapon damage with an extra ~60% physical damage.
Meaning your mainhand Firestrike deals 92-412 physical after damage bonuses.
The 41 fire damage on Firestrike becomes ~450 after applying your fire damage bonuses.
The 60 fire damage from Brimstone becomes 660. But also shoots out ~6 other fragments each dealing 660 damage.
The ~75 chaos becomes 253.
With this in mind and the fact that you have more fire resistance reduction (32 flat + -23%) and the fact that physical gets mitigated by armor (meaning since you don't stack physical damage hard enough, some enemies will take barely any damage at all), a single point in Brimstone does more for your damage than a single point in Firestrike.
afb2fc No.16439120
>>16439003
If you're using a 2H I highly recommend the Kraken devotion.
Remove Assassin's Blade and the optional point from Ulzuin's Torch with Burn Damage, Burn Damage % and Fire resistance cap.
Put 3 points into Eel, remove the blue crossroad point and max Kraken.
5d4d11 No.16439126
>>16438997
She died defending Devils Crossing if you listen/read the lore.
e9099e No.16439199
Why do people consider Diablo-likes fun? I'm not trying to be derisive, but I just don't understand the appeal at all. Every video I watch is a guy running around sporadically clicking on enemies. You have abilities that make them die faster, and you try to get loot which has bigger numbers to make the game easier. I know that's a gross oversimplification, but while a JRPG is almost the same mechanical numbers game, at least there's characters and a plot. Am I missing something?
81eecc No.16439212
>>16439199
>but while a JRPG is almost the same mechanical numbers game, at least there's characters and a plot
What did he mean by this?
38f549 No.16439221
>>16439199
Builds autism.
Interesting visual designs.
Its satisfying to nuke mobs of mobs.
This is like saying whats the appeal of Doom? You just go around shooting baddies until they die.
e9099e No.16439255
>>16439221
That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
e608db No.16439384
>>16439199
GD does have a plot and some pretty decent world building though. Diablo clones are a hit or miss, I've beaten TL2 once and had no interest replaying it and same goes for PoE but the gameplay of GD brings enough variety to the stuff you can do that I can load it up any time and either try a new build or push an existing one to its limit.
80ca77 No.16439407
>>16439384
The only thing that kinda bothers me about GD is not randomizing zones for a bit of variation, so replaying them gets really tiresome when you're on your tenth or so playthrough. At least you can finally start in higher difficulties now.
b103ae No.16439423
>>16439199
I like popping things, leading them into traps, charging into a mob with a shield and then bashing or cleaving a bunch into oblivion. If Diablo 3 did anything right, it's turning dead enemies into lighter ragdolls. Shit's hilarious.
The goal for me right now is just to finish all the quests I've accumulated over 2 playthroughs and maybe getting a Mythical gear set. Grim Dawn in particular offers 3 ways to grind for those: skeleton key dungeons, the Crucible and now Shattered Realm. You can also just grind regular enemies, but that takes too long.
Are do specific monsters drop specific set items? I keep reading about people hunting for Warden's set, but I'm eyeing Ulzuin's Avatar.
>>16439384
Both Grim Dawn and Path of Exile have high tier story elements and lore. I wouldn't put it at top tier because of how edgy it can get, but it's leagues beyond anything Diablo or Torchlight have to offer.
deeff1 No.16439448
>>16439423
There's 3 bosses that drop specific pieces of the krieg set which makes it a common suggestion for starting characters. Vanquisher set only drops from roguelike end dungeon chest and there's the shattered realm set. Everything else is rng I'm fairly sure.
f8e367 No.16441275
>>16439423
>>16439448
>Are do specific monsters drop specific set items?
Also specific monsters drop specific green items and they are so fucking good. And I think all components drop from specific mobs.
Also there are few "secred quest" drops. And some other less relevant stuff.
f8e367 No.16441276
cfac0c No.16441610
>>16439199
autistically tweaking out your character until it stomps shit, roleplay and room for experimentation, the last two being emphasized in GD
265012 No.16443139
>>16439199
>Am I missing something?
A functioning brain cell. Kill yourself, you dumb fucking retard.
adbf14 No.16445992
New patch is out:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/219990/discussions/0/1647665620944440633/
They fucked with some skills and devotions I use so that's pretty shitty. I really don't know what they were thinking with some of these changes.
81eecc No.16447542
I feel like for my first character I spread my points too far so I had more skills. Should I be focusing on improving a single skill for a bit and then moving on the next one?
c658a6 No.16447566
>>16447542
Focus on one or two skills that share the same damage type. Also, put points in physique.
81eecc No.16447574
>>16447566
>one or two
I kept seeing screenshots with people with about 2-3 skills and immediately knew I was doing something incredibly retarded.
265012 No.16448262
>>16445992
They were thinking of balancing the game, you fucking retard. Kill yourself.
affe03 No.16448311
Switch to Ultimate was the right choice, 5 mythicals in one Crowley's Hideout run.
838a2a No.16448355
>>16448311
45% weapon damage to canister bomb is a strange choice for that weapon. Would definitely be fun to dick around with though
affe03 No.16448384
>>16448355
I don't understand how weapon dps is calculated. I know weapon dps is different from the real DPS you deal on a daily basis, but at first glance, all the numbers on Mythical Adversary look higher than on the Brimstone repeater, even with set bonuses and add-ons in mind.
The way I tried to brute calc it without adding in offensive ability because I have no idea who it works, I deal roughly 900 damage per shot plus bonuses, while Adversary deals 3300 damage plus cunning bonuses plus offensive ability plus whatever add-on I'll slap onto it.
I hope this is the last time i ask you guys for help, I probably would've given up on this game at lvl 60 without your tips.
838a2a No.16448394
>>16448384
Just at a glance if you're getting weird dps numbers, I'd say it's the damage conversion that the brimstone repeater has. But also at first glance I'd think the adversary would do more.
I'd grab a dps tracker add-on though, It's quite a pain to do manually, and OA is extremely important in the calculations
deeff1 No.16448411
>>16448384
adversary has no damage conversion
deeff1 No.16448415
>>16448411
also repeater has a disgusting amount of attack speed
affe03 No.16448464
I don't even know anymore.
838a2a No.16448478
>>16448464
You use canister bomb and grenado, so the adversary is better.. But it's that % damage conversion (and +4 to firestrike) that's making the game's DPS reading go so far off. Also the game's DPS readings are… pretty bad most of the time
efe485 No.16448533
>>16448398
What game version do you use? What version of GI do you use?
affe03 No.16448548
>>16448533
latest on both
Grim Dawn got updated yesterday and Grim Internals was last updated on May 1st.
efe485 No.16448556
>>16448548
Well, you'll need to wait for GI dev to update his tool for new GD version.
e608db No.16448561
>>16445992
Some minor but fairly decent buffs for a few of my non-meta builds. The new spell effects look great too. Bloody pox is far more visible now too so you aren't left guessing if the debuff is applied or not.
adbf14 No.16448778
>>16448561
Not sure about some of the new spell effects. The new Arcane Barrier looks pretty shitty to me.
7dc3aa No.16448832
>>16448778
Is there a showcase available for the new spells? I wasn't even able to find any pictures.
adbf14 No.16449147
>>16448832
Not sure, there probably will be one at some point. Just going from memory I haven't noticed much improvement. Here is arcane barrier, which was toned down a lot. Now it's barely visible. Forcewave is okay, I don't think it's any better but not really much worse. It would be nice to be able to choose new or old effects instead.
e608db No.16449167
>>16449147
You can still see the big blue barrier but its got that transparent pulsing animation as it goes from see-through back to light blue. Keeping it more subtle lets you see the character more clearly so I guess that's what they were aiming for.
95d3d2 No.16449830
>>16448478
>>16448464
Depending on where fire strike skill is at, you lose about 8%WD on your main attack without those 4 points. You're also comparing a weapon with a 225-282 damage spread to one with 196-543, almost 100 points more on average. That's not to mention that all the damage boosts are probably for fire, which just magnifies the difference. For normal, just grab whatever guns give you green numbers or more damage of your chosen type, it won't matter until the very end of Malmouth.
>>16448778
You enjoyed running around in a blue hamster ball?
3a43b8 No.16449847
By the way, here's 1.1.2.0 if anyone can't find it (CODEX release):
https://filecrypt.cc/Container/0F83194D7B.html
e65311 No.16450225
>>16449847
cheers anon
RIP warlord fags
454cf4 No.16450601
Anyone tried an AAR build with the new changes yet? Was always my biggest issue with the skill, that it was utter shit for packs of enemies.
But I wonder if it's viable at all in SH since you need such an insane amount of survivability and after the mark of torment and mirror nerfs 'fixes' pre-FG it's quite a squishy build, relatively speaking.
d2a274 No.16450634
>>16450601
Yes, my main hero is AAR Warlock with 65% phys resist and i can 170 crucible without issues (only fucking Iron Maiden made my ass bleed). For this you need good green pants (Alexander ones) and build is a little unfinished https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m234W6EV - want to change rings.
58f785 No.16450697
Wait…
Difficulty unlock is character exclusive?!
e608db No.16450713
>>16450697
Every diablo clone works like this. Once you reach the final difficulty you can buy tokens that unlock it on fresh characters though
f8e367 No.16450722
>>16447542
Yes, but its less important for weapon damage characters. Also dont pick 2nd class before lvl 30.
>>16450697
Yeah, but it cost like 300k iron bits. There are vendor in expansion town, you can buy unlocks and trade them via shared stash to other characters. Same with crucible.
81eecc No.16450792
>>16450722
>Also dont pick 2nd class before lvl 30.
Can we please add this to the beginner tips pasta?
58f785 No.16450805
>>16450713
Whats the point then? I though difficulty unlocking was about replayability.
e608db No.16450812
>>16450805
Like every diablo clone that has come before GD it pads out the amount of content it has but running through the campaign 3 times on the 17th character you're building becomes tedious so you can skip and go straight to the hardest difficulty it if you like but its not mandatory or anything. First time around you're still gonna be experiencing the game without difficulty skip so you can make your mind up on how you wanna go about it afterwards
The replayability comes from crucible, shattered realm and the hardest ultimate difficulty content so you're not getting much out of normal & elite once you've gotten gud
e64e0b No.16450832
>>16450792
Is this really useful and general enough for that? Seems like it would depend more on how you were playing for this to be applicable or not.
454cf4 No.16450850
>>16450792
>>16450832
Yeah it's not a universal rule, some masteries offer great boosts with just a few points or from a single skill.
But you should focus most points into a single mastery starting out since many have stronger skills deeper down the mastery line than at the start.
cfac0c No.16450861
>>16450850
>>16450792
tbh heavily depends on whether you know what the fuck you're doing. Currently starting out as a pet cabalist for that fishy necro feel and honestly speccing into occultist around lvl 22ish to snag the elemental dmg aura from the familiar and Blood of Dregg for your skeletons is fucking baller tier
f8e367 No.16450863
>>16450832
For new players its a good advice. The more options they have, the more they will spread skillpoints and be weaker as result. The fact that they have option to invest in 2nd class at lvl 10 really fucks many players in the ass, especially casters.
Of course if you know what you are doing this kind of advice is meaningless to you anyway.
81eecc No.16450976
>>16450861
All I want to do is make my oathkeeper autistic battle waifu that spouts nothing but deus vult and spares nothing.
81eecc No.16451080
On a side note I wish components would be ordered by level, fucking hate sifting through them.
241167 No.16451093
>>16450976
I wish they picked sexier voice actors.
>>16451080
Components are not so bad, if you use grimstash to see what you need to use in specific slot, but crafting menu is fucking terrible. They should really have designed interface for normal sized monitors and keep separate version with small interface if they want to keep compatibility with midget screens.
18c71d No.16451201
>enemies 10 levels above me on a challenge dungeon mixed in with the rest that are 2 levels above me
What the fuck is this bullshit?
265012 No.16451386
>new titan quest expansion released
>contains features the faggots devs are literally copying from grim dawn
e608db No.16451392
>>16451201
Even at level 100 there are 110's in roguelikes and other endgame/secret dungeons. Better loot, higher difficulty and all that stuff. Better stack that OA if you wanna land any hits on them
f055e9 No.16451457
>>16451201
10 levels above you is nominal, it's .8% chance more for them to hit you and .8% less for you to hit them, plus a pittance of extra health. Any well-made build isn't going to notice a difference between level 100 and 110, it's the base chassis of the monster that matters.
>>16450792
>>16450832
>>16450850
There are so many exceptions to this rule that you'd have to put it in with heavy disclaimers. Nightblade and Necromancer have hugely potent RR debuffs at 15, Shaman and Occultist have them right at level 1. It might be better to point out some good leveling skills and combos for each mastery instead.
adbf14 No.16451855
>>16451386
>Another new TQ expansion out of nowhere
Damn, between that and GD I'll be good the rest of the year.
5ea5ee No.16453423
>All these nerfs to Eye of Reckoning
Why though? The only build with it that can be considered OP is the Cyclone one. They even reduced the players movement speed whilst spinning even further which mainly acts to reduce QoL. And I definitely don't think its damage needed to be reduced.
I know they nerfed the Cyclone set (which is justifiable) but they should have left the skill itself and Warborn alone.
The real problem with EoR is that even though there are plenty of items to support various EoR builds with different damage types and class combinations, they're for the most part not that amazing.
I'm going to try to put together a cold Dervish EoR build next with Mythical Gravetouch and Chillheart. But I don't know if a shield actually improves your defence when you're forced into Nightblade which as a class offers far inferior skills for tanking damage.
Anyone tried it yet?
3a43b8 No.16453490
>>16453478
In case you don't know, when you're fighting Alkamos, if you stop moving for about 0.75 seconds then keep moving again, he'll miss his first hit out of invis. You can do this to avoid the huge nukes he details with that hit. Just run around, stop for ~1sec, repeat. Nuke him when he's not invis.
17ee75 No.16453500
>>16453478
Is there a point in going in before lvl 100? Also use potions for +100%exp from malmoth resistance.
adbf14 No.16453512
>>16449830
>Not enjoying rolling through Cairn murdering everything in a giant glowing blue hamster ball
Do you not like fun?
e65311 No.16453523
are there any MI legendaries to farm for in normal for a pet caba? or am I just bad at the game, my skelebros get swatted by act bosses and I keep pumping in blood of dregg and bonds of bysmiel
3a43b8 No.16453530
>>16453523
>MI legendaries
Aren't all MIs rares at most?
241167 No.16453534
>>16453523
Keep summoning around them, a lot of their skills are 180° arc. But if I remember correctly skeletons were quite fat themselves. If you want you can equip them with some healing devotion. Maybe invest in auras.
d0f89e No.16453541
Is this any good if I thought TQ was a boring, easy slog? It was too simple to be entertaining co-op, that's hard to do. Do you actually have to think tactically at any point or is it a glorified cookie clicker because I'm tired of that shit.
3a43b8 No.16453550
>>16453541
All of normal difficulty was a cake-walk, although I still enjoyed it due to the story elements such as notes which are found in different places and detail the events of various things from the perspective of various people in the game. Elite difficulty (basically Nightmare) was somewhat easy, although several bosses gave me trouble and I did die a few times on my first playthrough.
Ultimate (hell-level) difficulty kicked my ass several times, and there are still a few bosses I cannot manage to kill on either of the characters I've gotten to max level.
Crucible, another game mode where you fight waves of enemies of ever-increasing difficulty up to 170 waves, is also quite difficult.
So, first two difficulties are fairly easy, but it ramps up a fair bit at ultimate.
17ee75 No.16453562
>>16453541
Grim dawn is better(in every way) and slightly faster TQ. If you felt that TQ should be better and slightly faster than you will like it.
affe03 No.16453563
Got raped by the 3 elites.
5ea5ee No.16453584
Is there any point to using the expensive Seal of Destruction over an Enchanted Flint if you don't care for the Seal's skill or its lightning damage? Crit damage is good, but don't feel like it makes up for the other stuff.
<Enchanted flint
>14-16 fire damage
>100% fire & burn damage
>15% chance of 135 burn damage over 3 seconds
<Seal of Destruction
>8-13 fire damage
>50% fire & burn damage
>6% crit damage
>>16453541
Pretty much what the anons above me already said. Itemization, components, skills, set items etc. add a lot of building autism which is not only fun but needed if you want to tackle the true endgame stuff. The game is faster and feels better, the devs were aware of how slow TQ felt.
Also once you've gotten to Ultimate (or Elite for that matter) you can send a token to a lvl 1 character and have them start on said difficulty immediately which greatly increases the difficulty but also lets you get to lvl 100 in a single playthrough.
f7354e No.16453585
>>16453534
>health devotions
Like Bat and Behemoth?
5ea5ee No.16453589
>>16453585
Bat is good but you can't actually put 'chance on getting hit' devotions on minions.
You could however get Tree of Life and put it on yourself, which grants a healing aura.
adbf14 No.16453623
>>16453523
In my experience skellies are just kinda squishy and can get wiped pretty quickly sometimes. I don't think they are supposed to be as tanky as some other summons.
e65311 No.16453720
>>16453623
Currently I have this planned out for my guy, the only issue is that I have 1 point hanging. Maybe swap out Eel for Sailor's guide?
5ea5ee No.16453818
>>16453720
Fiend doesn't do much for most of your minions (only slight fire damage boost) and Revenant summons minions based on player damage bonuses.
I'd do something like this.
You can also switch Bat for Fiend if you really want to. Eldritch Fire is sort of nice but it doesn't grant very much affinity so I don't see it worth getting on pet builds which will have a lot of different damage types.
3a43b8 No.16453829
>>16453818
I disagree with fiend if you're going for skellies; having 8 skellies out procing the fire from fiend every few seconds is extremely powerful.
5ea5ee No.16453838
>>16453818
>>16453720
Or maybe something like this.
Been fighting with the devotion builder for a while, would really want to get that last optional point from Dying God without sacrificing Spring Maiden, Shepherd's Crook and Bysmiel's Bonds. But can't seem to figure out how, if it's even possible.
5ea5ee No.16453849
>>16453829
Fair enough, the first linked build can use Bat and Fiend interchangeably since their cost and granted affinity is the same.
So Fiend for more skele dps and Bat for more skele survivability.
e65311 No.16453854
>>16453818
>Revenant summons minions based on player damage bonuses.
fuck
I'll play around with it after I finish wagecuckin'
Also does any anon wanna help me push into Elite on my first dude? currently in A4 veteran
affe03 No.16454187
What the fuck am I casting?
Is this a lvl 100 bonus or something? I'm pretty sure none of my gear or add-ons have a "spikes from target shot based on damage/projectiles received" spell.
5ea5ee No.16454201
>>16454187
I recognize the effect but can't put my finger on it, maybe from a component? Import and link your character and I might be able to remember.
On a side note, the Grim Internals developer mentions that keeping the DPS (both incoming and outgoing I'm guessing) meter up reduces your FPS. Didn't realize this at first and just thought I'd point it out, but maybe your framerate is fine.
affe03 No.16454233
>>16454201
Yeah, I've read about it, but I'm so adjusted to the shit factor it's not even noticeable. I've played through Halo 3 without sound and Diablo 3 at 12-20 FPS
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYx3l4Z
5ea5ee No.16454337
>>16454233
Maybe it's the relic? Not sure.
deeff1 No.16454915
>>16454187
That's brimstone, it only does that when you use a ranged weapon. Do you guys just take spells randomly and don't read what they do at all?
affe03 No.16455046
>>16454915
See, I reached lvl 100, unlocked Brimstone, tabbed out, forgot all about it, tabbed back in and only started noticing a few minutes later.
Alzheimer at 30 is a bitch.
f055e9 No.16455175
>>16453530
No, there's the Krieg and Dark One's sets, Ravager's hats, rougelike boss drops, and a few miscellaneous ones.
>>16453849
Keep in mind that any devotion with %WD loses that weapon damage when you put it on a pet.
ad329e No.16455180
>>16453478
>Wish me luck.
>not a HC character
Whatever you will be good.
deeff1 No.16455273
>>16455175
>Keep in mind that any devotion with %WD loses that weapon damage when you put it on a pet.
Source. I can't imagine that being true anymore since they added weapon damage to a lot of pet skills.
affe03 No.16455419
>>16455180
I'm at cca. 120 deaths, nothing will ever be good.
265012 No.16455764
>>16455273
Those are two different things, retard.
affe03 No.16455782
>you can use the mouse wheel to scroll down an item's description if it doesn't fit on screen
deeff1 No.16455838
>>16455764
Why would devotions lose %wd when assigned to a pet if pets can take advantage of weapon damage?
3a43b8 No.16456252
>>16455782
Wait what? Can't believe I didn't know about this.
39aa1e No.16456808
Haven't played since before Ashes of Malmouth. What are the OP builds for steamrolling your way to endgame content and farming gear for fun builds?
deeff1 No.16456927
>>16456808
pet builds are always good
28df9e No.16457122
Anyone else found a new appreciation for the Shattered set after they moved the +1 to all from the amulet to the 4-set bonus?
Didn't consider it worth using other than the amulet before but its defensive stats are really solid if your build doesn't have a great synergistic set out there.
I just wish they buffed the amulet a bit, maybe add some life steal.
8012c5 No.16457567
Want to make a pet build with Necromancer since I love having a large amount of minions. Should I pick Shaman or Occultist as my secondary mastery? Leaning towards Occultist.
241167 No.16457612
>>16457567
Does not really matter that much since you probably will put most points into necromancer anyway. And I personally disliked shaman pets.
adbf14 No.16457614
>>16457567
I have one with occultist that works pretty well. Curse of frailty and blood of dreeg are very useful, and I don't have many points in the familiar or hellhound but they seem to survive pretty well either way. Not sure how Shaman stacks up as a secondary.
>>16456927
They are fun for sure, not sure I'd call them OP though from my experience.
deeff1 No.16457648
>>16457567
Either is fine but overall I think shaman is a bit better. Flexible with exclusive skill, modrogen's pact for flat damage, health, and resists, Briarthorn's aura, primal spirit, and stronger resist debuffs. Occultist has aspect of the guardian for easy acid resist and tons of flat damage through pet auras and blood of dreeg but they are all different damage types. There's also the all in one debuff that is curse of frailty. Bonds of bysmiel and manipulation are only really useful at low gear levels and hellhound is pretty meh.
28e405 No.16461019
What's the best Aegis of Menhir build?
To me it seems like there are 4 clear paths to take.
>Soldier
Physical with Octavius set
>Inquisitor
Fire with Virtue set https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYxgQ4Z
>Shaman
Lightning retaliation with a mix of different stuff
>Occultist
Acid retaliation with a mix of different stuff https://www.grimtools.com/calc/m234M04V
To me it seems like retaliation has the most potential, the Occultist I put together gets 61% retal to Aegis of Menhir. With Blood of Dreeg up I reckon I get a bonus of 36000-48000 acid damage to it and it has ~1700% acid damage bonus.
Really tempted to make Sentinel now.
902c50 No.16461560
>>16461019
Demo/necro+Oath is a best build - you can clean endgame bosses liek a Calladagra.
28e405 No.16461660
>>16461560
You mean in general, not Aegis of Menhir specific?
I find my retaliation warlord to be pretty good at facetanking endgame bosses.