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>>16355878

>dark souls clone

Don't you mean Severance knockoff? Since Severance was the first.

I wish people who compare everything to dark souls would just cease to exist tbh

So wait, is Surge 1 good? Did the expansions improve it or just make it easy? I remember being pissed that Nioh went from a somewhat difficult demo in an early level to being a joke game until dozens of hours in when you're fighting two bosses at once due to 'feedback'. WoW murdered MMOs the same way, I hate that shit.

>>16355906

The Surge launched with 2 major issues. 1: It had 4 or 5 bosses, one of which was just a generic dude that summoned in multiple copies of the first boss. 2: The launch game had about a 20 weapons with many held for late game and the first boss weapon -every boss drops a part as a weapon- was so overpowered it made everything till the final zone in terms of drops pointless.

Now there is closer to a dozen bosses with some much different stuff, damage has been rebalanced across the board along with improved ai and the weapon roster increased to 81.

Personally i would recommend it. Its not the greatest action game ever but it is farm from what it was on release and nothing like the trash fire of lords of the fallen. It is a Bloodborne/Sekiro style game based on "What if a Steve Jobs tech hippie ran a factory in the desert america was turning into and a strange power surge wiped out everyones brains and their exo rigs now are in control with murderous intent but with twists like Project ReSOLVE meant to restore the ozone layed ended up too late to be revealed to me making it worse and a new project in secret was ready to ship nanites and biomechanoform all humans into nanite based robots to survive in a world with no atmosphere, but theres also hints in NG+ that the whole thing isn't real and a sim to discover what made one person override some subliminal pacification mind control in their rig and turn into a part chopping serial killer

If you want bloodborne meets dead space but its less space trucker low tech and more "what if Apple accidentally made weaponised nanocancer" i can recommend it.

>>16355878

I realy like Surge. They should make all levels more interconnected like second level. But i have no problem to put it in same league as Dark Souls and Bloodborne.

I don't like forests in Surge 2. I enjoyed desert more.

The Surge is the first game with a unique setting in probably 10 years.

>>16355906

>is Surge 1 good?

i liked it, but then again i got it for free. i'd call it a solid 6/10 if i was a fag who used numerical scores for things, because it's better than average but definitely not great

>>16355906

It’s ok. I liked it but it had some major issues, the biggest one in my mind was that every single boss in the game was awful. Not a lot of weapon variety and there are clear winners and losers in that variety so really there’s only a few ways to play if you want to have fun

>>16355954

I think its a central park type location. Near as i can tell its based on the nanite project launching but fucking up and trying to turn stuff into machines. I just hope they keep the vibe. I liked that dustbowl rocketyard with the shitty soft rock on the radio as these shambling people trapped in their exo rigs shamble about.

did they ever fix the hop/duck being tied to the same button as limb target? I probably would have had a lot more fun using the light weapons/armor if I could bob and weave through attacks like that without having to retarget the limb I want after doing so.

just overwhelming dudes with the heavy or single rigged weapons and stunlocking them to death was the best way to play at least the last time I played it. it was definitely the best way to get nanocores off of those nanobot swarms.

Did the DLC fix the original game as well?

>>16355906

It´s definitely an enjoyable game. It has its fair share of flaws like combo locking or rather boring environments but overall it´s worth to pick up in a sale or something.

>>16355878

I only watched a rather lengthy review of it some time ago but never picked it up, it's nice to see that they bothered to change and fix some things though it's probably more for testing out new concepts before commiting to them in the sequel and some extra cash.

>>16356060

It's 9 bucks right now so I might just get it.

>>16356057

For the most part yeah. Weapon variety increased over 40 times over, ai is better but its still got some issues.

>>16355906

yeah, it's really fucking good

I'd personally rate it just behind dark souls in terms of "muh souls like" enjoyment

it does have flaws, but it's fun

there's also neat stuff like killing bosses in a certain way unlocking special weapons

>>16356183

So what did you make of the NG+ opening changes? was it all a simulation to recreate the serial killer?

>>16356205

>NG+

I haven't gone through it yet, I'll have to readd it to my backlog

I wasn't even aware there were changes

>>16355878

>The protagonist is still there.

He aint Anon. You make your own character in Surge 2.

>>16356220

When you play through the game the first time the security guys in the gorgon type rigs are all standing around and its clean and brightly lit.

In NG+ The place is empty, things are in slight disrepair and theres a bloody trail leading from the operating chair down the hall and up into an airvent. Based on audio logs related to a past event where a serial killer dismembered people the fan theory is its all a looping sim and you are either playing the killer or some schlup they intentional injured on a day out at creo world -this parts confirmed, they rigged an attraction to break so they could cripple people who they just sold on the idea of exorigs for cheap labour as project resolve started to fail and they needed more drones for the new project- to be a lab rat thinking hes a janitor or something

>>16355884

Boy, I sure wish Codemasters would remake Severance instead of pumping out annual racing games that nobody fucking plays.

>>16355884

>he couldn't beat Dark Souls

>>16355884

>Severance

You mean that King's Field ripoff?

>>16356394

Is it still the same clunky slow shit tier gameplay of LotF where the only viable attack is the two handed sprint attack?

>>16356319

Rebel Act Studios made Blade of Darkness, anon. Codemasters just published it. They've been dead since 2002.

Never played the Surge's expansions. There's 2 now? Maybe I should try it again, though I'm kind of curious about the balance changes in-between the two.

At least originally though The Surge was nothing at all like Sekiro, and Sekiro was still hard as fuck for me. Bloodborne maybe, but combat was still mostly dodge based. Most fights though boiled down to rushing in with an OP running attack and maybe a fast follow up, and if the thing is still alive running away to do it again.

>>16356517

I havent' played the second but Creo World was excellent, in a lot of ways it surpassed areas of the core game.

Maybe the reason no one cared about the surge was too much samey shit but with a eurojank angle isnt a good selling point. Hopefully this shit sequel ends the studio.

>>16356664

Despite not having played it, The Surge looked like an improvement over LotF so I'm rooting for Deck13 to pull themselves out of being a shit tier developers like the Styx guys.

>>16356675

How can you not have the utmost fatigue in this shit when lords of the fallen was a shit clone with a clone wow art style and their next game has the same gameplay but a generic futuristic warehouse art style? That's what I'm curious about, this genre isnt exactly slim pickings.

>>16356685

>Fatigued

I'm usually indifferent to this type of game. I'd like The Surge 2 to be good because I'm a sucker for futuristic shit, but at the same time I'm not exactly holding my breath. It took Cyanide like 4 games to begin making Aarklash, which was a decent, low budget, super rushed game and then another two before they made Styx which was an actual game and a good one in my opinion at that.

Really the last time I gave a shit about something that wasn't Nioh was Immortal Unchained and that soured me quite a lot.

>>16356223

>You make your own character in Surge 2.

Or you play as Waren from Surge 1.

>>16356664

I doubt it will. They make good games on very small budget.

>>16356685

>How can you not have the utmost fatigue.

I have for 99% games. Surge is one of few games i played more than few hours. I finished it twice. But i enjoy games that others hates. Right now i having blast with Sniper Ghost Warrior 3.

>>16356601

I'm trying to decide if it's worth playing the main game again. I do not like to pick up a game where I left off years ago, and besides that game was on NG++ or something anyway.

>>16356815

if you already own it sure. They even put out a survey to change it and theres new ai, mobs spawn in better places, the black knight equivalents at the end aren't massive cunts anymore but still aren't pushovers. Its just an improvement overall.

>>16356884

>Own

>>16356457

There's one weapon class where you want to lead in with a jumping or dodging attack since it has a quarter of the windup of a regular combo, but most weapon classes don't require that. The real flaw is that some armor sets are just overtly better than others, with MG Gorgon's defense being better by a mile than any heavy set despite being medium armor. Since armor values don't matter, the fact that light armor takes up less energy and reduces the stamina cost on dodging makes it a much better alternative to heavy armor. Set bonuses also have no balance, with Gorgon and Chrysalis gear being amazing and Cerberus gear being complete shit, despite the fact that the first two can be gotten halfway through the game and the latter is boss armor.

>>16357676

Other then the combat it doesn't look to have any of the other mechanics of souls.

>>16357676

TELL ME ABOUT VEIN

WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK

>>16357676

Because you can pirate and play The Surge now while you wait for Weeb Souls.

>>16357676

>animu souls so edgy your wrists cut themselves when you play it

>still looks miles better then the spurg 2

>>16357676

corruption porn when?*

>>16357676

Doesnt resemble a souls game.

Might be good, but it's not souls.

>>16357704

>>16357910

https://archive.is/4y3AJ

The Dark Souls comparison isn't completely out of left field.

>>16357929

Oh there's stats, yeah I might get it if its on PC.

Didnt MH do it all first anyway? Why arent they called MHclones or MHlikes? Doesn't roll off the tongue but…

>>16356235

hang on I was under the impression that warren was crippled already before he went to creo world and saw all those exosuits

also I was under the impression that it was one of the side effects of project resolve that was causing all the cripples, or at least Jonah gutenberg tried to deny something along those lines, so why would they need to make any more?

am I wrong on these points

>>16357704

>>16357910

You can even tell where Bamco stole animation assets like attacks and movement from From Software at certain points.

But aside from aesthetic this game is gonna blow because only an idiot would give a Souls-like game to the studio that has most notably been making Monster Hunter variants for so long. Get ready for the most obscene, unfair grindfest imaginable.

>>16357941

MonHun clones were sometimes called BossHunt games, but that didn't really catch on. Either way, the only thing most journos can compare games to is Dark Souls anyways.

>>16358155

I watch anime, but with really realistic graphics but anime faces the art style doesn't mesh.

That one tactics game with magic girls for example does a good job meshing anime with more realistic graphics.

But this is just jarring with the anime faces yet hyper detailed everything else.

>>16357676

Will that game even have multiplayer?

>>16358155

Looks more like modern FF to me just because Vaati makes a video about it doesn't mean anything.

>>16358266

Almost satan is right. Reminder that Vaati almost always steals material found in chans and plebbit, so him calling it "Anime Souls" means jack shit. Reminder it's the same moron that calls NioH "Souls-Like" yet the only connections Nioh has with Souls is the Amrita-souls and the stats leveling which even that isn't as cucked as Souls hardcaps. Not to mention, if Vaati wasn't the gatekeeping faggot he is, his immidiate thought of good A.I. companions would have been isntantly "God Eater Burst" but as we know, normalniggers and Soulsfags don't play other bidya james. Hell, the greatest thing in GEBurst is clearing the story, getting to know what to do, polish your combat and then try to clear all the missions by hitting the SSS+ rank while hitting the "No Item, Perfect Health, short time" triple combo at once and bragging about it, kinda like what DMC3, 4 do with their special S ranks.

On the other hand, shift doing Edge Souls has been stupid for quite a while now but :

>>16357929

I want to believe them, I do. It's difficult though ever since GE2 migrated on the PSVita, the GE series have been going to shit. And the combat hasn't been fairing much better either. However the combat in the demos isn't exactly inspiring, especially when even attacks murder your stamina bar. If it kept GE's idea and had the attacks not consume stamina but just the other actions, like a MH game, it'd be far better. And if what the director hopes to do with the stats is true, it'd actually provide something new to the Souls formula, far more that then Surge and Bloodborne did.

>>16357676

Its free for PS+ so why not

>>16358123

His girlfriend dragged him to Creo world, he was going to propose, he got caught in a (((accident))) after being monitored around the park and chosen for being receptive to the message. His girlfriend was given drugs to make her depressed and feel like it was her fault so she left him. With nothing else Creo reached out, feeling so very sorry about it all, and offered him a job.

>>16356014

When I played on PC (using a controller) limb targeting was done with the right stick (IIRC) and hop was on the right face button.