/v/ - Video Games

>>16349460

You know I've been looking for good games for a while not, but I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Is CloverOS a meme or is it worth trying?

>>16349502

yes

>>16349537

I know what the root user is, but enabling it is a pain in the ass, and I shouldn't have to switch user accounts to do something so basic.

And yes, I do try to move "important driver files". One of the laptops was not designed to run anything other than Win 8, it was a touchscreen thing. I wanted to get something more usable and there was a small community getting Ubuntu to get working on it. Getting anything to function, from sound to networking, was a process that required exactly that. It shouldn't require me to jump through hoops when I can drag and drop something in Windows.

>>16349573

>There are no drivers in the kernel, there are kernel modules. And if you're as dumb as not being able to use basic privilege escalation commands, you damn sure shouldn't be touching that shit.

I had to individually set every folder I was working with to read+write, because god forbid they let me just do it to one folder and have it affect all subfolders too, right? That would make too much sense. Besides, none of it should be restricted in the first place. What happened to "respecting your freedoms" like your image says? Windows doesn't do it, and that's the archaic, restrictive OS, isn't it?

>Found your problem

That's going to be the excuse every time, isn't it? Any version of Linux that's shit, that's just not the right one, right? That's not real Linux, just like it's never real communism.

>Seeing how modern windows is locked tighter than fort knox, having folders you can't touch even as admin, having shadow users and services you can't stop, I am very confident you're talking straight out of your ass

You mean Windows 10? Probably. I was trying to use Ubuntu and Mint to AVOID Windows 10, and I have yet to see a single folder in 7 that I can't touch. So it's you who's talking out of your ass, making shit up to justify your sense of superiority.

Frankly, I have yet to see anything I can do on Linux that I can't do on 7. Sure, for some of those things on 7, I'll need third party tools but when those third party tools are less of a hassle than using the command line in Linux, what does it matter?

>>16349600

>>16349545

>>16349533

I moved to Linux Mint a couple years ago when I got tired of Microsoft breaking my drivers with forced updates and the push to move to windows 10. Since then I've had very few issues getting my linux box to run something unless it's some Japanese Doujin game that doesn't want to play nice with WINE. I have no idea why you would want to accidentally delete key processes, or why a few characters on the command line are beyond you. Even finding drivers is a mostly automatic process as I've put linux on an number of computers and have no trouble getting touchpads or other peripherals working.

>>16349569

>Should I switch to another distro, like Linux Mint?

Mint's a good choice for Windows users.

>Any updated guide to make games work on linux?

Use Lutris if you trying to play non-Steam games. Much easier than configuring Wine manually.

>How does Steam works on Linux?

Same as Windows. Valve made a native version of their desktop client years ago. Just go to your distro's software center/app store and search for it.

>>16349624

>I have no idea why you would want to accidentally delete key processes,

Isn't that the exact same excuse Microsoft uses for restricting Windows 10?

>or why a few characters on the command line are beyond you.

I shouldn't have to type any characters to be able to put a file in a fucking folder.

>Even finding drivers is a mostly automatic process as I've put linux on an number of computers and have no trouble getting touchpads or other peripherals working.

The particular model I had was an Asus t100ta. People had to make custom drivers and shit to get everything to work, and even then, it doesn't work with nearly-identical models either. You can look the guide up yourself.

My issues with Mint are less functional but still obnoxious. I like having programs on my taskbar that I commonly use. If a program I use doesn't have an icon natively, it's a five step process to create a shortcut which then has the icon and pinning it, an issue that I have never had with Windows. This was the case with Blender, Skype and some other program I can't recall. Only reason I haven't had more issues is because I haven't needed to do anything even remotely complex on it yet, thank fuck.

>>16349600

>I had to individually set every folder I was working with to read+write

You dumb idiot, you didn't JUST set them rw, you set them rw FOR EVERONE in the system (i bet you did chmod 777 on them), which means if a rogue process wanted to rootkit your kernel, now it can. This is there for a reason you dumbass

>What happened to "respecting your freedoms"

You HAVE the freedom to do that, it's just that you're fucking incompetent, and it's a bad idea to begin with.

>Windows doesn't do it, and that's the archaic, restrictive OS, isn't it?

Except it does, it literally screams at you if you want to touch something you shouldn't, and something are immutable unless you boot into a second OS and modify it. On Linux if you're root, you can do everything on the system. But that's IF YOU'RE ROOT. And you SHOULDN'T be.

>That's not real Linux

Linux is a kernel. Everything else is the distro, and usually that's the problem. The "Install Gentoo" meme is real because Gentoo FORCES you to get close and personal with the the underlying mechanics, to understand how the system works, instead of copypasta'ing "important driver files" that some faggot on ubuntu forums told you to.

>Frankly, I have yet to see anything I can do on Linux that I can't do on 7

dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=1M count=1024 ; mkfs.ext4 -L myfaggotdisk file; mkdir /mnt/gayponyshit ; mount -o loop file /mnt/gayponyshit -umask 777 #just because OP is a fag and cannot fathom chown

Go on, I'll wait to see how long it'll take you to do that in windows

> I'll need third party tools but when those third party tools are less of a hassle [..]

Oh yeah, especially when those tools are written by an unkown ruskie gopnik who'll happily turn your machine into a bitcoin miner

I'll stop now anon, since there is no reason to make more fun of you. Stick to windows though. You clearly don't have the mental capacity to use anything that needs more mental power than drag&drop

>>16349569

steam proton is actually really good and just t'werks. Been using it for a little while now and most of my library works. I still sort of hate valve for its kikery and I'm trying to move away from them. in my defense I haven't actually brought a game for steam in years, I'm just re using my old library. having said that though, proton works without steam, so Gogin' games or pirating them and then using proton should also work.

>>16349476

>>16349463

>>16349460

I know its a meme but I'm tempted to get a thicc pad

>>16349533

>Where the fuck did this freedom meme come from?

It came from Richard Stallman who invented the concept of free software. The freedom that people are referring to has nothing to do with the functionality of the software at hand, but rather with how it and it's source code are licensed/distributed. For more information, you can take a look at

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

>>16349502

It's a simple script that installs Gentoo without the hassle, and provides compiled and optimised packages for you to install. It's that, and it's good.

>>16349757

I have a Windows VM, so can't help you there. I don't have access to it anyways, for now. I will snatch that game as soon as I get to it, that's for sure.

>>16349699

I got a T440s and they're pretty darn good but I wouldn't recommend it for vidya. They're strictly a good work/business laptop.

Just switched over 2 days ago. Only playing a couple games right now, but they all work fine. Switch to Manjaro.

>>16349668

then just log in as root ffs

just don't come crying when you accidentally delete some core system component

>>16349685

>dd

I cringe so fucking hard every time I see that syntax.

Anyone got the post of the guy freaking out about retroarch?

>>16349668

>Isn't that the exact same excuse Microsoft uses for restricting Windows 10?

Just because Microsoft showed up late to the party doesn't retroactively make it a bad idea to restrict what is accessible to the user unless they have the right privilege. You still have the freedom to alter anything you like, they just put a minor barrier to stop people from fucking their system the same way System32 became a meme for.

>I shouldn't have to

You do if you want to alter stuff in your root.

>custom drivers

Even then, and I have had to fiddle with things, do it once and you're done. The problem here is that you're lazy.

>>16350030

>99% of games

that's a bit of a stretch

https://www.protondb.com/

Tried downloading and running Dead or Alive 6, but it's running at 1-3 FPS, 0.05 FPS while in combat. Does anyone know what could be happening? From what I have seen, everyone else is able to run it correctly without issue, and it's not even like I have a computer much different from theirs.

>>16350127

What counts is how new your drivers are. AMD support has improved by leaps and bounds over the past year and a half, and they're still continuously working on it. Make sure you have the latest Mesa (18.x or 19), and the latest kernel (5.0.x, 5.1 will be out in a couple weeks or more). If you have Nvidia, make sure you have installed the propietary drivers and that you have the newest ones as well, but in this case, don't get Mesa, that's for free drivers, so for AMD and Intel graphics.

Oh, and disable compositing in your desktop environment, at the very least it can cause input lag of at least 1 frame, but at times it also makes you stutter, it could be that as well.

Having some fun with NBlood right now and due to the MWLL thread want to install that again as well.

However I've been running into the problem that I have too many disks that I have sorted my stuff on and they delay the initial bootprocess by quite a bit. I have tried autofs but that lead to some funky behavior and seemingly slowed down the system, any anons here who have dealt with this?

>>16350163

Yeah, I'm running the latest Mesa 18 and kernel. Didn't think about the compositing, though. Will try again in a few.

>>16350062

Some of those only involve a couple of fixes or workarounds, the really borked games are few and far between.

>>16350298

I haven't. Try disabling services that are being autostarted on system bootup. Typical things you can remove are getty 3 through 6. I recommend you have a spare tty in case Xorg crashes or something. See if you have crap you don't use, like libvirtd or anything not related to what you have. Look into it and you'll know.

Disabling I/O ports on the motherboard can also be done, I believe you can shave some boot up time and save power if you do that. You need to go to your BIOS in order to do it.

supertuxkart gamenight WHEN?

>>16350352

I already configured openrc and I don't run services I don't need.

I really do mean that the amount of mounts I perform at bootup hangs the whole thing, hell openrc is telling me so.

>>16350437

Can't help you there then. I don't run more than 3 drives at any time on my system, and one of them is not even automounted, since that one is where my Windows VM is installed.

>>16350163

>>16350301

That was not it, it's like it's not using my GPU at 100% or something like that. Basically, the game runs at 60 FPS until a character appears in screen, then the framerate nosedives to 1 FPS. By changing the settings a bit, it seems the game can run at 60 FPS if I lower my resolution to the lowest available, or it can run at 60 FPS if I run it at 1600x900, but it dies the moment two characters appear on screen.

This is specially weird, since most games in my Proton run just well, and I am sure all of them are more demanding than this piece of shit, but I don't even see it attempting to stress my CPU. I suspected it may had have something to do with the switch to LLVM 6 in my computer and shaders compiling slower than usual, but it doesn't seem like it's actually attempting to compile anything. I will probably build a new computer soon, but considering DOA 5 doesn't even register most of my controller inputs, I am just going to assume it's that the devs are this incompetent.

>>16350585

What distros do you mean and why?

>>16350706

Well at least Zorin isn't on here, thank fuck.

I about a month, D9VK has gone from rendering a triangle to running Mirror's Edge. Exciting times.

>>16350542

Here are a few possibilities off the top of my head.

Make sure your system is configured correctly for Esync. https://github.com/lutris/lutris/wiki/How-to:-Esync

If you've already done this or your distro did the work for you, there are some cases where Esync makes the game run worse. Not many, but some. Right-click the game in your Steam library, click "Set Launch Options", and put in "PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 %command%". You can try some of Proton's other options if that doesn't help. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton#runtime-config-options

Try changing the version of Proton you're using to run the game. Sometimes a game works well in one version of Proton but not another. 4.2-2 is the latest, but one of the old 3.X version might do it for you or vice versa.

Finally, if you're on an AMD card like I think you are, make sure you're using the AMDGPU driver and not the old Radeon driver. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/wiki/For-AMD-users-having-issues-with-non-OpenGL-games

>>16350542

>>16350757

Okay, forgot to mention my GPU has 2GB of RAM. I suspect the game is going crazy by loading and unloading textures mid-frame.

>thinkpad

>linux

<no dragon dildos

<no programming socks

There's something wrong here.

>>16349463

Ah yes Quake 3, a game that'll run on anything with the word computer written on it. I'm going to nuke my Windows install for an OS that has no games, you've shown me.

>wine

>linux gaming

Kill yourself.

>>16351043

Is emulation PC gaming?

>>16351051

Wine isn't an emulator

>>16351059

I know. Please answer the question.

>>16351062

I do believe i just did

>>16349502

No, it's not.

It's basically binary gentoo and that in itself defeats the entire purpose of gentoo.

But if it was just that it would be passable as ok, the real issue is that those binaries are compiled with the most unsafe cflags you can imagine.

Do not use cloveros, read though the gentoo handbook instead.

>>16350844

> hurr durr, OS == kernel, but i forgot about the software that comes with it that is not part of the kernel

< linux is a kernel

>>16349661

I just wish Steam would let you upload files and browse game files from your default file manager instead of their shitty one.

>>16351989

I think I had a problem like that on a 290. Try setting a voltage limit and underclocking the VRAM.

>>16352005

Nope, that didn't help. Wine still tells me >Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xffffffff in 32-bit code (0x00424fbb).

I think the issue here might be with Wine itself rather than Lutris.

>>16352132

Is the prefix 32 or 64bit?

>>16352163

Tried both, the error remains the same.

>>16352186

Hm, maybe try the git version? If I recall correctly void didn't have the best wine pkg, otherwise I would double check winedb for anything useful.

>>16352005

lutris is far from a meme, its fucking great

>>16351774

>Wincuck using UNIX hater terminology

Reminder that he blames all of Windows' problems on UNIX too. For all Linux's troubles, it's still much easier to troubleshoot and fix problems on Unixlike OSes than Windows, and in my experience certain kinds of hardware like printers are more likely to just werk on normalfag Linux distros.

>>16352201

Void doesn't have the x86_64 Wine in the repos, so I've been using the versions installed by Lutris. I'll try compiling wine-staging myself now.

>>16352255

I assume you know that Wine is actually very picky in the regard of architecture? You need 32-bit Wine for almost all programs. It's easily the most annoying thorn-in-the-side to an otherwise purely 64-bit OS, and library dependencies. Debian addressed this with "multiarch" where you do dpkg –add-architecture i386 or something and then you can install for example libx264:i386

>>16350894

based

>>16351774

cringe

LET ME POST YOU CUNT

>>16351368

>>16352265

Alright, looks like I finally stumbled on the source of the problem after installing 32 bit Wine from xbps repo and getting a more detailed log. Apparently the newer kernels (starting from 3.13) prevent 64-bit code from running 16-bit code, which breaks some old Windows applications on x86_64 systems and the Windows 9x mode in Wine itself.

http://linux-kernel.2935.n7.nabble.com/tip-x86-urgent-x86-64-modify-ldt-Ban-16-bit-segments-on-64-bit-kernels-td838675i120.html

But 3.14 introduced a switch to disable this ban, as described here:

https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22540#p94852

I'm gonna try it out after I finish compiling Wine and see if it would fix the problem. Jesus fuck, this compilation takes a metric asston of time on my shitty toaster laptop.

>>16352405

I know your problem now but I run x86-16 things in DOSBox.

>>16352405

>>16352487

Ah, cock, looks like this didn't help. The 16-bit code kernel vulnerability has been since patched, so the option was removed and behavior reverted to pre-3.13. The issue is probably elsewhere in kernel configs. Gonna try installing 5.0 and seeing if it would help.

Most games work great on linux if you're willing to configure them properly and I prefer the system in general; but I can never get my mouse configured to feel comparable to windows. So even though games run well they always feel a bit off when playing them. I think it might just be that my laser mouse on linux doesn't properly compensate for how shit the sensor is so the response isn't quite flat.

Anybody have input on mouse config? Is there even anything to tweak aside from xorg?

>>16352569

Welp, nvidia340 dkms module refuses to build under Linux 5.0 and at this point I'm a bit tired of fucking around with roundabout solutions to archaic Windows compatibility issues. Probably gonna continue tomorrow.

>>16352635

Assuming you've already disabled mouse acceleration, you could check if your mouse is using the right polling rate.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_polling_rate

What's the best and cheapest thinkpad i can buy to try my hand at this linux thing? Right now i'm using winzog 10 in my laptop because it doesn't support anything else.

>>16349476

I feel the need to point out that the seller of the first auction bumped up the price to $150, don't buy it.

>>16352689

X200, you can get one for a 100 bucks

>>16352689

I think its very unlikely that your laptop can't run linux. if its x86 it should run it, and if its windows then its probably x86. you can probably just run it on that tbh

Best advice for you and anyone else who wants to switch to linux:

- pick one of the well known distros as your first start. systemd less, privacy focused, rolling release, user centered rather than user friendly, hardened kernels etc are all great but intimidating for a new user. There's nothing wrong with starting with Ubuntu and then moving to something else down the line. Mint, Xubuntu, Manjaro are all good babies first linux

- try it in virtual box, as a live usb system, on a spare computer/laptop you don't care about.

- you pick a distribution because of the package manager, innit system, software repository size and rolling release vs LTS release model

- you don't pick a distribution because of the look/feel. Desktop environments, themes, icons, wallpapers whatever, are all customizable.

>>16352808

oof

>>16354868

Nothing aside from the odd Tetris match or playing LittleBigPlanet with my siblings. I'm trying to fix some health stuff and read more before before I play vidya regularly again.

>>16354868

I got NBlood to workit's really just one 'make', not that that is a bad thing but I usually just start up TF2 for a around or two before going back to ricing or programming.

Oh and X4 Foundations finally has a Linux version, I should try that.

<Xbox controller works fine

<Older games for windows work fine on wine

<Install it through wine and it'll work. Run a installation from the windows disk and it'll fail

<I've got steam for linux but nothing I own on steam is available. Not even the final fantasy ports

<New games tend to fail because launchers, drm and so on or are just too much of a hassle in general

<Emulators could actually work better considering how long they've all been around but you can basically play your retro games without bigger problems. Too many fucked up packages on too many distros though. When you're unlucky ZSNES segfaults and visual boy advanced gets compiled without half of the features

<Haven't really tried any linux specific games except for cube ages ago

<Stick with the proprietary video card drivers

>>16349471

blah blah blah. Who the fuck cares? Everybody knows what parts linux is made from.

>>16349502

Kind of, but the installer doesn't really give you any options like btrfs or encryption so you're better off building your own system.

>>16349545

On Windows you need to authenticate too to change things above your home directory. Use sudo or whatever your dekstop environment probably offers you to accomplish that. You might as well go back and just use windows instead if you're unwilling to learn anything new anyway. I'm getting tired of linux catering to ease of use. I'd prefer it to stay a poweruser platform and other people to just use Windows or Mac.

>>16349573

>>Ubuntu

>

>Found your problem

The ubuntu mentality, more precisely. I mean, let this guy do a gentoo installation, how do you think it would end? Using something non Ubuntu-like is not really a solution when someone just expects to pop in a disk and have windows without having windows.

>>16349600

>That's not real Linux, just like it's never real communism.

The real linux is knowing what the fuck you are doing and using terminal commands instead of cluelessly clicking around. On windows too, but linux shells are much more comfortable in that regard.

>>16350010

>then just log in as root ffs

You can even do that. Someone having to use ubuntu shouldn't though.

>>16350844

To this day i still can't find a single freetard that can counter this copypasta.

My only problem with switching to linux is game pirating, I don't know the communities, the tools nor the general process. Is it easier, harder?

I obviously expect it to be a smaller community than windows, so less pirated games will be available.

>>16356641

>Is it easier, harder?

I only know of one site that's dedicated to pirated linux games and it's kind of shit

http://linuxgames.me/

scene groups or whatever rarely release linux ports, but it does happen. those you can find through regular channels/sites. even if they do, you'd most often find older version of what you're trying to pirate.

but the most often seen case is that the gamedev simply does not make a linux port. then you need to pirate the win version and get it working through wine or something, so… one additional layer of work needed to get it running on your loonix rig.

gaming especially pirated stuff on linux is still a pain, but it's improving

>>16356641

Much harder.

Generally the only place I've ever seen that is helpful for linux piracy is /v/'s own share threads.

If your lucky you can find pirated games in your distro's repositorythe AUR has lots

>>16356681

>it's improving

It's getting worse.

Proton has made it near impossible to get reasonable help for newer games and last i checked most scenefag releases don't work properly.

Try running any fitgirl/codex/3dm game on linux and see what i mean.

>>16356129

Deus Ex and Planescape Torment

>>16356841

JC turns into an alien hybrid. the nameless one's name is steve and the answer to the witches riddle is 'pain'

Alright, nerds, what's the best normalfag distro? I'm looking at Solas atm. Wanna use it for Photoshop and zbrush. I'm aware of wine, but just want to be sure.

>>16350585

I have a shit ass tablet that I bought for reading that I run void on. You know why? Void has SystemD free Gnome3.

>>16356796

>Try running any fitgirl/codex/3dm game on linux and see what i mean.

it's more game related than crack related. as for proton, it will make a big difference, since it's code will eventually end up in wine itself.

>Proton has made it near impossible to get reasonable help

yeah, this definitely stands

>>16356790

>that spoiler text

got anything for debian?

>>16356886

I doubt that's going to happen this time.

>>16349460

Wtf is that video, mpv output?

There's no prove its dolphin or playable since it says Replay.

Also please Ciruno make a pleroma node or account!

>>16349463

You should be linking torrents instead of ddls

>>16349476

Lol, so we can shill bid!

x86 is shit anyways

>>16352794

Because you listed them fucker! You are out right shilling with your autism.

>>16350406

Never. /v/vindows users can't even install doom to play with others.

>>16356983

I took a quick look at their gitrepo, and yes, it's all C++ trash.

>>16356972

>it's code will eventually end up in wine itself

I strongly doubt this. Wine has a strict no C++ policy.

>>16357405

Do you have a link to this policy? I'm kind of curious.

>>16357405

I thought they just forked it, and are building up on it. what's this c++ shit now?

>>16359103

In games that are only capable of using one or two cores? Probably not. In most games made in the last decade or so? Almost always, but to varying degrees. Video related is an example of how much the advantage can vary in the same game. FarCry 4 is basically unplayable without it. On the other hand, there are a handful of cases (Alpha Protocol, in my experience) where esync actually hurts.

https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-60-fps-codes

What distro should I use so that I can be smug and feel superior compared to others?

>>16368737

Depends on the flavor of superiority you want. Linux offers options here too, as with everything else.

Look at how much effort I put into my system

Gentoo

Slackware

LFS

Arch (easiest to set up out of all of these)

Fuck systemd

Above depending how you set them up

Void

Devuan

Fuck proprietary software

You must use libreboot on your system, or else you loose bragging rights. Then for the os…

Parabola

Gentoo

Debian, maybe

arch/slackware/LFS depending on how you set them up.

Fuck it all

Free BSD

Then you have to know how to make fun of other distros and OS's.

Apple: just talk about their normal business practices without exaggeration.

Windows: Surveillance. Proprietary software. Lack of customization.

openSUSE: Baby's first distro.

Linux Mint: Absolutely Proprietary.

Ubuntu: Bloated. Bring up the Amazon controversy.

Manjaro/Clover: Pussies that need someone else to do the hard work for them.

Kali Linux: Script Kiddies and try-hards.

Debian: Stable is so old the drivers don't work with modern systems.

Cent OS/Fedora: Owned by Red Hat

Red Hat: Owned by IBM

Personally I run Manjaro, so I'm above Apple, Windows, Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Cent OS, Fedora, Red Hat, and openSUSE on the stack, tied with Clover, Antergos, and Free BSD, but under Gentoo, Parabola, Void, Slackware, LFS, and Arch. Kali Linux when used by a professional for it's designed purpose and Temple OS are separate from the hierarchy entirely. Kali Linux used as a daily driver makes you a try-hard and as a result worse than Windows, but not quite as bad as Apple. Windows users are boring sheep, Apple users are consumer whores.

This is different from the "actually doing real work on linux" stack, I should mention. Different hierarchy entirely but it doesn't come with smug superiority because you're too busy getting paid 70k+ a year to care about someone editing .config files on Arch.

In all honesty you should use the distro you like best with the features you want.

>>16369794

>Windows: Surveillance. Proprietary software. Lack of customization.

imblying apple isn't the same.

>>16370542

if you're already using POL, I'd suggest to make a new vmachine and go easy on the components. in my experience they tend to break stuff if unneeded.

and try a 64bit machine, regardless of the application

Why's the ppsspp core in retroarch so broken?

>>16371257

>manjaro

>not artix

Enjoy your systemdicks

>>16371279

Works for me for the most part. I have issues when I try doing any higher resolutions, though. Is that what you mean.

>>16371257

Sure, why the fuck not.

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>>16369794

>fuck proprietary

>debian, maybe

This only if using debian/hurd. If your using any other form of debian you lose all braging rights here.

>>16369794

>manjaro/clover: pussies that need someone else to do the hard work for them.

I can do better then this.

>manjaro

Retard centered adds retarded toolkits that don't need to exist and installs microsoft spyware by default.

Drop kicked openrc so hard it killed off another completely unrelated project.

>clover

Ricers for cuckchan who have no real idea of how to actually manage a gentoo system, deciding to run unstable c optimizations and a binhost that doesn't even work with it's own binaries, you'll need to you compile shit anyway.

Started in tradition as just a logo then a bunch of shitty wallpapers.

They can't manage for shit, the claims of it being "stock gentoo except with preconfigured useflags" is bullshit when you realise they use overlays excessively, the idea that you can "change it from binary to source" is true but you'll need to fidget around in hundreds of settings just to get it working like normal, by this point it would've been easier to just read the fucking gentoo handbook.

>>16371326

>packages: 1354

What the fuck, I'd hate to have to manage all that shit.

>>16371384

>>16371379

That's including all dependencies. I have a lot of programming packages because this is also my workstation. My world file is about 250 packages, and the majority of that is related to programming (compilers, editors/plugins, libraries, etc). It's inflated because I work regularly in a lot of different programming languages professionally. Most of the rest is various games and emulators and a ton of media libraries and the like for encoding, and a couple little ones here and there for audio editing, like mixxx, lilypond, musescore, timidity++, and lmms and their dependencies. Here's my world file if you're curious: https://pastebin.com/CdmDiGh6

> I'd hate to have to manage all that shit

It's not hard. A couple updates a week and make sure to –depclean regularly and it does it all itself for the most part. Sometimes I have to unmask a testing package, but otherwise it's smooth sailing.

> I would have thought that the gentoo man would have less pkgs than me.

Gentoo isn't about being lean, it's about deciding exactly how lean you want to be. I originally started using it because local overlays make adding external packages into my tree insanely easy, and I used to use a lot of programs based out of little git repositories with no official or unofficial distro support. Writing an ebuild for it, generating a manifest, and emerging it is a breeze. These days I just keep using it because I'm used to it enough that it's easier than any other distro for me, and I like being able to mix testing and stable to a large degree, so most of my system is stable and solid while specific packages are effectively bleeding edge.

>>16371445

> make sure to –depclean regularly

When the fuck did 8ch start automatically turning a double hyphen into an endash – Does it do it in code blocks?

--depclean

>>16371464

—-

>>16352610

>PulseAudio

>Alsa

I can't believe Linuxfags threw an autistic fit when OSS4 was proprietary and stopped using OSS because of it while BSDs continued with the old free version of OSS until the new OSS was opened up. Sound is the single worst sticking point for portability between *nix operating systems. Even within linux people with realtime audio needs use JACK which is incompatible with PulseAudio technically there's a workaround for this but it's such a pain in the ass and not worth it because ALSA just works. Fuck Poetternigger and redhat, literally the microsoft of linux.

>>16371326

I'll give lower res a chance, if it works, thanks in advance.

>>16371509

For me, it actually crashed every time I loaded up a game, so I had to manually find the ppsspp resolution line in the config file and delete it; I don't think there's a way to modify core options without loading the core and a game up in the main UI.

>>16371569

I don't want to post an XKCD comic but you know the one I would post here. I don't want another linuxism, I just want a standard platform. I wouldn't even care if it was shitty like X11 so long as there was a standard.

>>16371609

pipewire has replacements for libjack.so, libpulse and a alsa plugin.

It's not so much a new standard but a framework taking advantage of the previous ones.

>>16371716

>New Red Hat program embracing and extending

soon it will be time to extinguish

>>16357405

C++ is just an enhanced and extended version of C. C is bare bones. You need all that good stuff like templates, references, overloading, and default arguments. There's no reason to ever use C if you could use C++ instead, even if you're just doing procedural programming.

>>16371735

Wayland isn't going to EEE because it's stillborn. I am not in a position to provide a technical critique of display servers, but It's self evident at this point that wayland hovers between insignificantly better and moderately worse performance with a trend only towards parity with X as time goes on. A lot of X's problems were really Xlib's, and xcb has helped it lurch along. I'd much rather have a legacy system with an empty promise of network transparency than a new one for the sake of novelty.

>>16371747

All the "good stuff" you mention is such a tiny minority of what's needed for clean performant code and is mostly of interest for library authors to write abstractions which is ironic because for a library to be widely used it generally has to have a C interface.

>>16371790

>muh network transparency

Literally something that shouldn't be in the display server.

Also, pipewire handles this for wayland ;^)

>>16371799

nice cherry picking fag. the important word of that sentence was "legacy" that I can run all my old X programs without a significant performance hit from XWayland.

>>16371814

If your applications were opensource there would be no reason to run xwayland, as almost all except for a bloated few run a gtk/qt which has supported wayland for awhile now.

A lot of applications have wayland compatability now and for the ones that don't there are alternatives except for gimp, cause gimp sucks.

>>16371814

Also this "performance hit" you talk about is literally just what happens when you run X, it's the same even natively.

Unless your using some shitcard from nvidia.

>>16371823

oh yeah, if you love widget toolkits what about xforms

>>16371832

did you look at ANY benchmarks which all show a 10-20% performance hit using XWayland instead of X in games. You're getting so blown out that you double post and get things objectively wrong. Anon are you okay?

>inb4 they should rewrite them to support wayland

Not their jobs to keep wayland on life support. You wayland cultists can do it if you want.

>>16371874

>playing proprietary video gaymes

>>16371874

>xforms

read a book on the advantages of code abstraction, building a reliance on a single system is bad practice

>>16371814

>>16371874

Games don't run on X or Wayland. They access the graphics drivers directly using the graphics library they're compiled against.

>>16368737

>>16369794

I must add that if you use GuixSD you are allowed to be smug toward all other GNU/Linux users, even other users of GuixSD, that's how smug you become when you use a distro based around the official package manager of the GNU project. Added smugness if you use Emacs as your window manager and as controller for your dragon dildo.

>>16372015

You still have to get a context some way. You can't use OpenGL or Vulkan without interfacing with the windowing system to get a graphics context, either directly or indirectly. That's why WGL and GLX exist.

>>16372483

It still surprises to this day how many people don't know about escape characters.

>>16349460

Fitgirl repacks always fail during install in wine.

What am I doing wrong?

>>16372973

Majority of people are illiterate at programing. Why does this surprise you.

>>16349463

What is the solydxk distro? Is it related to dxvk (i suspect possible (((jewing))) of this one) and (((vulkan)))?

>>16372973

Doesn't even need escape characters, just the basic rules of "always quote expanded variables in a shell context" and "use separated arguments in lists when executing anything that allows it". Fucking those up are babby's first mistakes.

>>16373255

>with respect to it and FAT/NTFS it doesn't catch all the corner cases that Windows has such as reserved filenames.

It doesn't try to. Those filesystem drivers try to be as generic as possible without enforcing Windows limitations. Some people use FAT and NTFS for Linux-only situations and enforcing Windows restrictions on them when they don't need them is pointless.

I'm with you on the filename stuff, though. Pain in the ass to download a file with some goddamn emoji in the filename and be instantly unable to work with it in the shell without tab expansion. If the untypable character is in the beginning, you have to do some annoying wildcard expansion or tab through the entire directory. Pretty sure that's mostly to ensure simple filesystem drivers and to comply with Unix standards where possible.

>>16372503

Actually, wayland has a mod which drops the regular window events on fullscreen so the performance would increase leaving only the renderer.

Of course this doesn't work 100% with X applications but as a result running an X application in fullscreen would have close to or almost minor differences to running X native.

>>16375468

s/mod/protocal/g

>>16369794

<Free BSD

>recommending the most pozzed, SJW *BSD

Anon, pls.

>>16372483

how comfortable to use is that laptop?

>>16377563

You mean the thing that is literally holding up the sky? Are you really going to allow a single blemish to write it off? And I have to suspect it's to use Windows which is infinitely more cancerous.

What's a game to play that's either native or works in proton? Looking for a RPG maybe.

>>16380927

help yourself

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=category&sAction=view&iId=55&sTitle=Browse+Applications

https://www.protondb.com/explore?page=0&selectedFilters=userTags%2CincludeNative&selectedTags=RPG

>>16377484

like it or not freebsd still has the best driver support of all the bsds

>>16373030

Use staging and set the Windows version to XP. It might still break at that point, usually halfway through the unpack because of the packaged unarc, and you can really only get a new release.

all operating systems suck and video games suck too

>>16381323

I thought it was the packaged unarc.

90% of the repacks fail.

They do install fine through a VM, and work with wine.

>>16382518

get off the internet terry, you're dead.

>>16371376

https://gitgud.io/cloveros/cloveros/#recompiling-all-packages-and-kernel-with-marchnative-for-increased-performance

>>16382228

>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GCC_optimization#Optimization_FAQs

>>16382892

But Terry liked videogames, he just thought you were a cuck if you didn't play games you created yourself.

>>16371445

I take it –depclean just removes orphaned packages?

How's GPU pass through?

>>16373255

>Windows has such as reserved filenames.

that's mainly for compatibility and stuff, it doesn't even allow paths longer than 255 characters without jumping into the registry.

as for filenames in general, most ppl use a usable name since they have to use them themselves or it's a different language which has the same problem as in in windows, at least in linux you can assume most programs follow what ext support instead of chocking on non-latin characters in general.

anything else is usually a rare edge case you can easily deal with.

>>16385982

not perfect, but passable. depends on what kind of setup you have

>>16385982

Pretty good. Everything works with essentially the same performance as bare metal. You just need to have patience and time to set it up, and buying hardware with it in mind helps, but is not required.

>>16387019

>ᵇᵘᵗ

cease

>>16387110

CEASE

>>16387113

The goat stays

>>16354868

Age of Empires II, Monster Hunter Freedom, Cladun, Morrowind (OpenMW), New Vegas.

>>16387157

AoE2 is on linux?

>>16387174

Nope. Works via Steam Play (Proton 3.16.9).

>>16387202

Ah, I see.

>>16387207

Easy to set up. Been having a blast. Nice to have the Workshop content just werk too.

Anyone here ever do a SBC handheld project? What kind of success have you had? I was looking at the tinkerboard and was considering it since it hopefully be able to emulate a lot of old games at full speed at the low res of a mini display

>>16386983

Shouldn't that just be a change of hostname in /etc/conf.d/?

>mfw rutracker.org has wine torrents that just werk

How do I compile doomrl under linux? github readme only explains what to do under windows lazarus and I never touched pascal in my life.

>>16385343

Yep. It builds a full dependency tree of packages as given in your "world" file (which has every package you've explicitly installed without a –oneshot) and deletes all installed packages that aren't in the tree.

>>16350894

>vape

>meme audio set up

>meme distro

How could you possibly become any gayer?

>>16390871

Right. I have no fucking clue. This is not a good framework. This is what I turned up when it came down to it but I couldn't get it to work. Just use the builds from the site if you want to play it.

https://github.com/ChaosForge/fpcvalkyrie/issues/2

https://github.com/ChaosForge/doomrl/issues/3

how much of a pain in the ass is modding games on linux?

>>16350585

I loved near everything about Void but switched to Gentoo years ago since Void only supported 32-bit Wine back then, no x64 Wine unless you go through a series of manual symlink fuckery which only works half the time but WILL eventually break xpbs all the time is kind of a dealbreaker. Is it supported now? Because I really want to go back.

>>16400763

Depends what you're trying to do. Linux makes it easier to inspect game function and LD_PRELOAD lets you hot-swap running functionality as long as it's in a shared library, allowing you to swap out function implementations without modifying any libraries or executables. Linux also offers a lot of standard tools allowing introspection that Windows does not, like strace, and makes it easier to attach programs to a debugger arbitrarily.

More modding tools are supported on Windows, though, so you have a wider base of existing community tools to pick from.

If you want to use existing tools and knowledge to mod games with active modding communities, you're almost certainly going to have an easier time in Windows. If you want to inspect and examine an existing game to determine how to start modding it, it's easier in Linux, if you know what you're doing. Either way, you're probably best just using the OS that you're most comfortable with.

If you have the source code, you don't need to do any of that, you just read and edit the sources.

>>16400763

It depends on tools availability. Most of those tools are written for windows and are very old such as those for C&C games, Total Annihilation and a couple others. When a tool uses the piece of shit .Net framework like Doombuilder 2 then it is a real bitch to get it working in wine. Modding Skullshit/ZDoom/GZdoom should be relative easy as Slade works natively in Linux and has a boom compatible map editor with some UDMF support. So for my experiences most of the tools I tried to get running in Wine may or may not work, ShpBuilder for C&C series works good enough but I think it needs older Wine version and set to Windows 98 or something. 3DOBuilder for Totala doesn't work quite right and I haven't figured out yet how to get it to run better. Modding Factorio requires just a text editor and eventually Blender. Its also a good idea to learn a programming language and some bash scripting.

I haven't wrote my self a medium sized tool program yet because I haven't really found a open source game so far that I really like that I would like to make mods and/or tools for a long time. I did modded Factorio for a while but it just didn't really clicked on me, I mean it is great that you can have xbox yuuge bases and shieet with shit tons of aliens to fight against but if I am trying to play like this then it feels more like a glorified tower defense game and having so many vehicles to choose from but being able to use one at a time kinda sucks, so that is one of my main reason I don't bother modding Factorio anymore, it triggers my autism that there is a lot of combat items to produce but there isn't much point to have them in warehouse like quantity when most of them can be consumed by only 1 actor (the player). For now I will fiddle with OpenApoc since nobody bothered to make a small-medium sized mod for it yet and I want to see it for myself how much Vehicle combat I can get out of this engine.

>>16403830

>alsa was never broken, it could do everything pulse does with plugins and a "standard" gui.

alsa was worse than OSS and iirc quite a clusterfuck for some time. the only reason they switched in the first place is because the maintainer went full retard license, which lead to the mess of alsa which then lead to an even worse mess of pulseaudio

really need to try jack at some point…

>>16403728

It has its genesis in antiX, and the principal maintainer is someone named "anticapitalista", who I assume is a commie faggot. That's about all I have. Other than that, it seemed fine from my time with it. I enjoy seeing distros use XFCE out of the box and knowing how to make it shine.

Only having a laggy POS PCXS2 1.4 build in the repo is annoying.

>>16400785

>Spoiler

Do you have any steps?

>Is it supported now?

Can pigs fly unassisted, yet?

>>16403728

You did ask. Pettiness nuke has been launched. 0) Built in iDevice support. 1) Using md5sum for downloaded files. 2) Using Debian as a base probably means SystemD.

>>16405937

MX uses sysvinit, not systemd. The other two points are 100% valid.

Wine v4.7 is out now.

<Support for builtin libraries in PE format even on Unix.

<Updated version of the Mono engine.

<More implementation of the Debug Engine DLL.

<Support for the Command Link standard control.

<Improved Edit control sizing in CJK locales.

<Various bug fixes.

https://www.winehq.org/announce/4.7

Does any of you anons know where I can get a debian version of libgluezilla? I'm trying to shitpost with other anons at city of heroes but everytime I try to launch tequillia.exe or creamsoda.exe I get this bullshit error. I have this libgluezilla installed which I could convert from Suse REP package but it only worked with the 64bit version and I think I need the 32bit version of it or something, tried to find answers via search engines and none of them gave a proper answer either to this shit, there was one which gave a link to ubuntu security repository but all gluezilla files there are gone.

Running /home/USER/.local/share/lutris/runners/wine/tkg-protonified-4.6-x86_64/bin/wine /home/USER/Dokumente/Programme/Windows/City of Heros/COHtequila/CreamSoda.exe
000b:fixme:winediag:start_process Wine Staging 4.6 is a testing version containing experimental patches.
000b:fixme:winediag:start_process Please mention your exact version when filing bug reports on winehq.org.
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.avail/53-monospace-lcd-filter.conf", line 10: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not work as expected
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.avail/53-monospace-lcd-filter.conf", line 10: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not work as expected
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.avail/53-monospace-lcd-filter.conf", line 10: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not work as expected
libgluezilla not found. To have webbrowser support, you need libgluezilla installed
0009:fixme:nls:GetFileMUIPath stub: 0x10, L"C:\\windows\\system32\\tzres.dll", (null), 0x32e838, 0x162488, 0x32e83c, 0x32e830
0009:fixme:nls:GetFileMUIPath stub: 0x10, L"C:\\windows\\system32\\tzres.dll", (null), 0x32e838, 0x1626a0, 0x32e83c, 0x32e830

Unhandled Exception:
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.Navigate (System.Uri url) [0x0001f] in <4b5e54e3d33a420eb49212146df9d142>:0 
  at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_Url (System.Uri value) [0x00007] in <4b5e54e3d33a420eb49212146df9d142>:0 
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_Url(System.Uri)
  at CreamSoda.CreamSoda.InitializeComponent () [0x00131] in <454c414389c247ff91050da1ed55700b>:0 
  at CreamSoda.CreamSoda..ctor () [0x00011] in <454c414389c247ff91050da1ed55700b>:0 
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) CreamSoda.CreamSoda..ctor()
  at CreamSoda.Program.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00011] in <454c414389c247ff91050da1ed55700b>:0 
[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

  at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.Navigate (System.Uri url) [0x0001f] in <4b5e54e3d33a420eb49212146df9d142>:0 

  at System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_Url (System.Uri value) [0x00007] in <4b5e54e3d33a420eb49212146df9d142>:0 

  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser.set_Url(System.Uri)

  at CreamSoda.CreamSoda.InitializeComponent () [0x00131] in <454c414389c247ff91050da1ed55700b>:0 

  at CreamSoda.CreamSoda..ctor () [0x00011] in <454c414389c247ff91050da1ed55700b>:0 

  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) CreamSoda.CreamSoda..ctor()

  at CreamSoda.Program.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00011] in <454c414389c247ff91050da1ed55700b>:0 
Waiting on children
All children gone
Exit with returncode 1

>>16417521

Looks like I am a bit closer why it was so fucking annoying installing shitworks 3.5 with Lutris, the first issue is the Lutris version 5.2 has somesort of butched Winetricks version that has a even buggier shitworks installation scripts, the default winetricks available from my Loonix Mint 18.3 works a tad better as it actually install some shitworks versions so around 2.0-3.0 but not 3.5 which is I think I need that piece of shit too. The second issue that whoever braindead retard that wrote the script had the brilliant idea of removing mscoree.dll which causes even more issues, instead of just renaming the file to something else the idiot has to fucking pull this bullshit which is why creamsoda and tequilla bitched all the time about missing mscoree.dll because those winetricks scripts are not restoring it back when the script failed to work properly.

Has anyone here tried getting a bootedevice detected by pure UEFI Boards?

does nobody here even care about sound equalizer? pulseaudio sucks and lags to oblivion and jack sucks to get set up without systemd system

>>16426225

Why would you care about messing up your sound? Get better headphones or better media

>>16371747

this is wrong

>>16426225

uninstall pulse

default to alsa

>>16427067

So you're a gay furry and possibly an identityfag. Got it.

>>16426225

Install a *BSD so you can use the vastly superior OSS4.

>>16428716

Preferably NetBSD though, to avoid poz

>>16428716

Isn't OSS4 considered outdated or something? I thought ALSA was considered the best overall. On systemd distros I usually change a bunch of settings to get audio sounding a bit better. Oddly enough on my system even stock pulseaudio sounds better than Windows using flac files.

Something got all fucked up for me a while back and now Dolphin emulator freezes on me typically ~30 seconds after loading a game up. Anyone know what I should do?

>>16427081

>Use Windows

>Never have to touch SystemD

Windows is SYSTEMD though.

I should say SYSTEMD is Windows.

>>16439948

for OSS/alsa, only reason the latter exists is because the maintainer? main dev? for oss went full retard and made it proprietary at some point - it's open again now afaik, but at this point linux is already neck deep in shit when it comes to audio that it doesn't really matter what's better (I've heard oss is, but bsd use their own implementation iirc so not really comparable) when everybody has to deal with poetteringware anyway.

I need to upgrade my 3 year old install. Im ready for a challenge. I got several games not listed on wine or play on linux working

what distro should i use.

Arch linux without systemD?

>>16442579

Seems like a decent enough choice

>>16442596

C&C Renegade

>>16442625

Will i be able to import the playonlinux drives to uncucked arch linux or do i have to reinstall EVERYTHING

>>16442642

Generally the change in init system should have no effect on how you stored your data.

Since PoL's data is just a winebottle with some metadata you should be just fine.

Is optimus support still shit. It's all I have and last time I installed GNU/Linux, i could not run vulkan with the drivers.

Is it worth grabbing offficial tm graphics card drivers?

>>16442642

how is steamTM on arch linux?

>>16442681

Meant for you

>>16442119

Probably has something to do with the fact that most game devs target ubuntu support when they say linux release

>>16442771

If it's nvidia and your using any card that was made in the last 10 years, yes.

If your using amd, don't they are unsupported and only there for legacy purposes. amd "offical" drivers are more unstable then the free counterpart.

>>16442823

it just werkz

>>16442841

TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>16442839

This. AMD drivers are part of the kernel now if I'm not mistaken. AMD linux performance is getting better all the time. My next desktop system I plan on going AMD.

>>16442043

Sounds about right. I don't think it matters that much as long as you get the settings right and have good audio hardware, especially a desktop DAC.

>>16442579

Arctix? Isn't that Arc less Systemd?

How are you supposed to get other desktop environments usually? in devuan when i try to use the package installer to search for kde plasma most of the packages return with a 404. Their official website has no downloads.

>>16443181

task-kde-desktop 3.39+devuan1.9

You try running an install for that in terminal?

>>16443231

>running an install for that in terminal?

right i forgot this is linux, it's never easy.

thanks, ill keep that method in mind if i get problems going forward.

>>16443179

Yeah i have the distro ready. I'm a bit lazy. Is there anything i should know about my new install. Like what desktop gui etc?

>>16443561

That's up to you. I like KDE. A lot of people like MATE which is similar to windows. Xfce is pretty powerful but it always looks bad to me. I don't have much experience with anything else but Gnome which can be good depending on distro, POP_OS for example.

>>16442778

depends on the console.>>16442778

>>16442778

I don't emulate anything past generation 5. What systems were you actually interested in?

>>16443700

Nothing wrong with Xfce, it's almost like being back in Windows 98 in how it works, and a nice middle ground as far as feature set without being too heavy. I use a few outliers like the LXDE file manager, and the GNOME network manager though.

>>16443700

is pop os free of systemd? been trying to hunt down more wangblows-like distros. doesnt seem like that systemd wiki has been updated at all.

>>16444049

Pop_OS is based on Ubuntu so it has Systemd. However it's a very very good distro. Especially if you have an Nvidia laptop. It's made by System_76 who sells laptops and desktops and want to provide a non shit OS for the systems they sell. Its much better then stock Ubuntu at least.

>>16443971

Oh I agree, Xfce isn't bad. I just think its ugly. I tried MX Linux for example and just found it unappealing visually. KDE and Budgie and hell even Gnome look better to me. I haven't tried DeepIn yet but lots of people like that one as well.

>>16442823

Aside from some confusions people run into regarding the native and runtime version it works just fine.

>>16443561

Make a habit out of looking for openrc packages outright when installing something that should always run

>>16445735

>mostly super nintendo, ps1

mednafen

>and ps2.

pcsx2

Linux is too much of a headache to deal with. Gotta keep track of a bunch of complex garbage, and compile your own programs to even remotely play games.

>>16446623

imagine being this much of a brainlet

>>16446646

Imagine the headaches you went through trying to learn C to run a GBA emulator.

>>16446669

pretty much this. linux is just better windows for autists/basement dwellers.

>>16446669

It's alright to not like or understand something, but you make an ass out of yourself when you pretend to know about something you don't.

>>16446669

This, it takes to long to learn what every command does, the meanings behind all the terminology, and the unnecessary mountain of effort just to play any game. But of course, it's either that, or have my personal information recorded on Windows, while having ease of access to every program and game under the sun. Hmm.

>>16446676

Stop trying to rationalize all the hours you've wasted of reading to understand an overly-complicated OS/kernel/distro/whatever. You're not superior in any way, and you didn't learn a trade. Sure Linux is used in places in the real world, but it doesn't really help anyone unless it's a niche need.

>It's alright to not like or understand something

>literally most autistics using linux respond like >>16446646

what would help linux is if most of its users werent so two faced. make your OS catch up with the times and accept that not everyone enjoys wasting most of their work day ironing out problems and typing in a command lines to do basic functions.

>>16446697

Linux would be a lot better if the desktop environments weren't so detached from the CLI and the rest of the underlying stuff.

>>16446709

the scary thing is after win7 loses support, we'll genuinely need to jump to something. With trannies taking over the most well known and easy to use distros, all we have left is the messy shit.

>>16446715

Thing is, as big of a mess as Linux is it's still a much smaller mess than Windows and way easier to troubleshoot when something goes wrong. Windows is such a massive clusterfuck that Microsoft is actually going to bundle a Linux kernel with the OS soon to keep devs from abandoning their dumpster fire.

>>16446689

It hasn't been a waste to me. I've improved my knowledge and usage of computers and even enjoyed doing it.

>You're not superior in any way, and you didn't learn a trade.

I'm not sure where you're getting this from, I didn't say anything about superiority or trades.

>but it doesn't really help anyone unless it's a niche need

Except that hasn't been the case for me at all. Everyday tasks are more efficiently accomplished and processes are easier to automate now. Again, just because you don't understand the benefits it doesn't mean they don't exist. Your gripes with Linux sound typical of the users that come over from Windows and try to make it behave exactly like Windows even though that misses the point. Same goes for the anon saying "Linux" doesn't understand what 95% of users want; it's more like 95% of users don't know what Linux does.

>>16445735

>SNES

bsnes. But ideally with RetroArch.

>PS1

Mednafen.

>PS2

PCSX2.

>>16446577

Realistically you don't use any of the id Software source code raw, you use community maintained forks. To list a few examples:

>Doom

Chocolate Doom for vanilla experience, GZDoom for mods. There's a lot to choose from with Doom.

>Quake

Darkplaces, and I think the other one was Quakespasm?

>Quake 2

Yamagi I think?

>Quake III

ioquake3.

>Doom 3

Last I checked it was iodoom3 but I don't actually know.

>Return to Castle Wolfenstein

iortcw.

>Jedi Outcast/Academy

openjo/openja.

As far as actually compiling them, they differ depending on their build framework, and also it's a lot easier to do this sort of thing on a Linux system. Like, excluding some dependency installing, and also editing the config for IWAD and data file search paths, this is how I build GZDoom.

export CFLAGS="-march=native"
export CXXFLAGS="-march=native"
mkdir build
cd build
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="$HOME/opt/gzdoom" -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release ..
make
make install

>>16446868

You should add -pipe and -ftree-vectorize to your CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS

>>16447030

Apparently -ftree-vectorize is automatic with -O3, which is what "Release" does. There's also "Debug" (-O1 and symbols) and "RelWithDebugInfo" (-O2 and symbols). Right now I probably won't be needing to build it again to see if -pipe works with CMake, I'm using vintage builds. I'll try it next time I update FFmpeg and its dependencies.

git clone https://github.com/drfrag666/GZDoom
git checkout g3.8.0_legacy

>>16446964

As an end user you usually won't have to. I don't build the majority of my software from source. Exceptions are what isn't available or is outdated on my OS since I'm running Debian.

>>16447116

>-O3, which is what "Release" does

>set(CMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE "-ffast-math -O2 -DNDEBUG")

https://github.com/drfrag666/gzdoom/blob/gzdoom32/dumb/cmake/CMakeLists.txt

According to that it uses -ffast-math -O2 for release. Where do you see -O3? I suggested -ftree-vectorize because I assumed you didn't want to use -O3 for some weird reason. Using only -O2 won't utilize the YMM registers of AVX/AVX2 if you have a CPU that has those instructions. You need -ftree-vectorize for the auto vectorization to utilize them. It's a safe flag the GCC devs were talking about turning on in -O2 soon. Also -pipe doesn't effect the code, it just speeds up compile time but uses some more memory.

>>16447164

Forgot to change the link to point to the g3.8.0_legacy branch but the file is the same.

>>16446733

This has been my experience so far. Windows for years now has been a collossal shit storm of bugs, crashes, and privacy concerns. I'm finding Linux to be vastly easier to resolve problems because most issues are a search bar away from a link with a fix. Windows Ill have to go down multiple rabbit holes to find a fix.

Fuck Windows in current year. I had my fill and I wont be going back.

>>16447164

Odd. I'll re-compile later on, assuming it doesn't break it. Some programs hate -O3 and GZDoom ain't exactly well coded. I've seen some crappy FOSS game that immediately crashes with anything over -O1

>>16446697

You get that kind of reaction because of:

1) Where do you think you are? stop asking /v/ or /tech/ they aren't goin to baby you, use a distro help forum/irc instead

2) Most linux distros DO cater to brainlets already, asking for another distro to yet again do the same thing every other distro is doing is pointless

In fact, some are better at providing convenice then fucking windows.

>install windows

>have to sign in with microshit acount

>have to give a shit ton of information

>licences

>forced updates

>ntfs

>still needing to defrag your filesystem despite it being 2019 and having this issue fixed for the past 20 years

>need to download drivers directly from manufactor

>tech support are pajeets and are as illiterate as windows users

Where as on some baby distro like manjaro the process is literally

>install os

>everything is there

>don't even need to install steam

>don't need to install nvidia drivers because they package them for you already

>literally the most complected thing is getting printers to work

I fucking wish you niggers would stop complaining about an issue that hasn't been a problem since fucking ubuntu existed.

If any reason you get shit on is literally because you haven't taken the 5 seconds required to look anything up.

sage because your retarded

>>16447494

I agree with you, however you're a fag for using sage as a downvote.

>>16449437

You know it really don't make sense to me, since most prefab tools can just shit out a linux version from the source code couldn'tit? Couldjas have a linux bootto test your game after it had been exported.

>>16449447

Too be fair, at least in my experience, when building for GNU/Linux a program developed with Windows based tools you almost always end up with some library fuckery. The Nvidia shield and shit all have Windows based build tools to help with this shit but GNU/Linux doesn't. You COULD try and convince developers to use GNU/Linux as their primary build environment as Cygwin can easily spit out Windows software with little issues but good luck with that

>>16449437

Every other platform has a company behind it to push and lobby for new games and features.

Linux has nothing.

>>16449556

GNU/Linux has the Linux Foundation and its corporate sponsors. the thing is that GNU/Linux isn't really a single platform, but a framework to build other platforms, most of which happen to be independently maintained distros. It was never always quite like this but it sure is now.

>>16449574

>all their convenience

>until package sources go down then you're fucked

there's really zero problem in learning most of its guis as far as my experience goes. all my trouble comes from oversights and the autisms.

>>16449506

yeah i guess they really liked the systemd mess and will try to figure out kike-ing out the submissive linux users. thatll be exciting to watch.

https://archive.is/SKWg7

based bsd developer

>>16449590

Mirrors, faggot.

>>16457136

thanks you

I don’t understand how someone can play nothing but tux racer

>>16457136

How's the Unicomp keyboard? I've heard their build quality has being going down over time.

>>16458062

Kero Blaster works

>>16447494

>literally the most complected thing is getting printers to work

The most complicated thing to get working on a single user system is obscure windows software that no one else is using on wine.

Or shit games on wine.

>>16442596

1602 A.D. is comfy.

Sway is great. No more screentearing by default and it is smooth as fuck, even gaining me a few FPS.

>>16458189

>there is literally nothing wrong with being a furfag

>>16458284

Well if you want to get into the economics aspects of it, there's the fact that most nonzoophile furfags end up taking up useful careers to sustain their hunger for porn. Like that one aeronautics engineer that wants to fuck airplanes, and what was it a neurosurgeon who wants falco to fuck a building in half

>>16458189

So how many dogs have you raped to death lately?

>>16458189

>>16458277

>>16458284

>>16458298

Libbiefags don't have a high crossover with furfags. Actual furfags usually ignore Libbie because they prefer Konqi.

>>16372973

I did, it's just never occurred to me what got in the way of playing stuff from Steam

>>16377519

Rather uncomfortable, it is 800MHz single core so it has trouble with modern internet browsing, can play videos at 480p in mpv if lucky maybe. The keyboard is difficult to use because it's smol, with the biggest problem being you need to use the FN keys to use the arrows. Still a fun gimmicky thing that I snuggle up with from time to time and play HOMM3 or something.

It's nice to see that at least you dudes have some love for Linux

Half-chan is not as cool as you

>>16449473

MX Linux

>>16458314

you say that but yet… https://e621.net/post?tags=libbie

>>16444049

>looking for wangblows like distro

>doesn't want systemd

I am of the confused

>>16458318

It looks like it would be nice for writing down notes or shitposting on IRC from bed if the keyboard isn't too bad. nice luxray

>everyone keeps talking about this systemd nonsense like it is the devil

So what is it and why should you avoid it?

>>16459042

>>16459051

The only thing bad is that systemd is actually good, covers a lot of things like services but is not very modular, if it was broken down into pieces instead of one glob. Now pulseaudio was a fucking mistake, but now it's not as bad.

>>16459108

Don't try and use logic on /v/, it's just gonna be a bad time.

>>16459042

All it is, is just unicucks retards whining how that some software is not following their 40 year old autism mandate for modern hardware.

fuck systemd and fuck glow in the dark freedesktop.org shills

>>16459108

Want to see something really crazy? Try talking about loli on /fur/.