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>>16336776

There's also a non-browser version of grimtools.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52366

To find augments, click the appropriate gear slot and go to the 'Augments' tab.

>el grimmest edition

Is this the same anon who posted laughing mario?

Also anyone know of a way to actually get recipes for pistols? I have nearly 25 hours in game and still only one recipe. I need better guns.

>>16336751

> I think if you out level enemies too much their drop rates suffer as well

It used to be that way, so I assume its the same now. Not sure if that works on items, but materials dont drop from low lvl bosses.

>>16337720

I have 250h ingame. Recipes are not common. Ironman (rougelike) dungeons, shattered realm and crucible are your best bets for farming anything (except some advanced stuff, like specific items).

>>16337777

Shattered Realm and Crucible are things I could do easier than getting to the ancient grove so I'll try that.

>>16337772

That's true but you have no hours at all compared to the other anon who had over one fucking thousand hours. I wasn't aware blueprints/recipes weren't all that uncommon, I thought I was just unlucky but apparently they drop better in certain places

>>16337720

The basic recipe that you start with(enchanted X) creates yellows/greens scaled to your level.

>>16337834

I would prefer Crate just make what they want to make, they deserve a passion pet project at this point.

>>16337865

I know anon but they suck fucking ass. I need some epics/legendaries not yellow and greens.

>>16337905

Hey greens can be really good if you're lucky.

>>16337794

> but apparently they drop better in certain places

Its likely they will drop from pistol welding enemies, like cronley gang, but in the end crucible, SR, dungeons are just better loot in general and likely will outweigh all the other sources.

>>16337834

Probably GD2 if they can adjust their old technology. On one hand they are doing great job and the other they do everything by hand. So more of the same.

>>16337905

Greens are fine. Its not a diablo 3.

Anyone else playing Warlord? I struggle deciding between Menhir's Bulwark and Divine Mandate.

I need both trees at 40 minimum, besides Divine Mandate being a huge dps boost (also affects retaliation damage) with its crit damage and other nice damage boosts, getting 50 points in Oathkeeper for that sweet Celestial Presence almost feels mandatory.

On the other hand getting tankier is never a bad thing, though even if I choose that exclusive I still probably want to get Celestial Presence forcing me to put both masteries at 50.

>>16337834

>>16337875

They're working on what looks like a town builder/survival game, could be fun but I'd really rather want something similar to GD.

The devs have talked about diminishing return on the sales of each expansion and that they most likely wont make another one unless it far outsells their expectations (which is what happened with AoM I believe). So it's more likely that they'll make GD2.

>>16337977

>vit DEE

>no conduit to convert acid to vit

What

>>16337941

>lucky

You're talking to literal no luck nigger here

>>16338066

At least you got dubs.

>>16338066

>no luck

>gets dubs

I see how it is

>>16338112

Oh no, anon just used up his last pinch of luck, he'll wake up to a corrupted save and erectile dysfunction!

>>16337974

>The devs have talked about diminishing return on the sales of each expansion and that they most likely wont make another one unless it far outsells their expectations

>which is what happened with AoM I believe

So what is it, diminishing return or exceeding expectations?

>>16338060

>fanatical cabalists swear that a drop of t heir primordial god's blood is contained within this orb

I'm playing a cabalist and that item would be absolutely useless except for the Chaos Resistance.

>>16338152

They talked how each next dlc is less popular than the previous one according to some "study". But in the end it all depends on sales, not on prognosis.

>>16338165

>>16338152

Look at it this way

>X people buy game

>Expansion comes out and less than 100% buy it

>Second expansion comes out and less than 100% that bought the first expansion buy it

But on the other hand releasing a new expansion can (and at least to some degree will) boost sales of the original game due to renewed interest and exposure. So it's not as if releasing new content can't potentially attract a much larger audience. Though honestly at this point I reckon that most people that like the genre have already tried the game or at the very least are aware of it.

So it depends on if they believe enough people are interested in a third expansion to warrant the development of one. Like AoM sold way more than they thought so they realized it was worth investing in a third.

>>16338191

So AoM sold way better than expected but FG didn't?

>>16338216

AoM did, yes. FG just recently released so we'll have to wait and see. The way they said it was that there were no plans to make another expansion but if it does very well it's not an impossibility.

>>16338191

>I reckon that most people that like the genre have already tried the game or at the very least are aware of it.

Are ARPG's even that popular? I see few games with the typical diablo style gameplay and if you do it's usually shit like PoE.

is arpg the proper term for the genre? Seems too wide

>>16338338

Arpg is a term invented by people who dont want to call it diablo-clone.

>Are ARPG's even that popular

Above RTS for sure.

>>16338395

>Game and all expansions

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b5993f282baf3a58d0b6fbe3432bb80f1fdd5d37

>Patch 1.1.1.1

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9d9d229c5731e186fbbcff46f2e6e624a2cd7aa8

>Patch 1.1.1.2 (needs previous patch)

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:950fa9ea4f08149989440cdf5a91d4bcf45ce9cd

>Lazy nigger

(You)

>>16338384

I assumed there would be a term for it, you have early fallouts being known as isometric whatever the fucks but I guess this kind of game can't really be shortened to something like an fps can.

>above rts

Not very then.

>>16338396

I choose Solael because of my fire build. Just go with what you find cool.

>I believe they started calling them ARPG's in juxtaposition to the slower turn based games which were basically all RPG

Yeah, like the original fallouts were proper rpgs, then came diablo honestly not sure which came first, cant be fucked to look it up and that was a real time game. Now most rpg's are real time so we need a proper name for it really.

Looking for a diablo-like and finding nothing but skyrim is a pain in the ass. Maybe Diablo-like would be easiest, not like there's a specific name other than souls-like for the souls games. Metroidvania and rogue-liktes are similar too but there's a clear genre there. For these games they're so fucking annoyingly uncommon though.

>>16338384

RTS has long since been buried in a shallow grave but I'm not sure what keeps loot hoarding simulators alive and kicking since there hasn't been much innovation in the genre that I can think of. Every game be it TL, PoE or GD have been built around d2 each with their own slight deviations from the original trying different takes on what they consider improvements to the game but I'm not sure if any of them change the fundamentals of the genre.

RTS certainly had its fair share of changes from where it began with basic stuff like C&C and dune. And then it changed so much that it decided to die and spawn assfaggots so there's that

>get grim stash

>craft every rare item, give myself every skill in the game maxed

>run naked through game casting favorite skills

is there anything else to do past hour 500?

>>16338424

>but I'm not sure what keeps loot hoarding simulators alive and kicking

There's never been anything like assfaggots to bring normalfags into the genre, and the biggest attempt at casualization (diablo 3) just pissed people off. Arpgfags have the genre they want already and barring a massive influx of normalfags things will likely stay that way.

>>16338424

> I'm not sure what keeps loot hoarding simulators alive and kicking since there hasn't been much innovation in the genre that I can think of

Because d2 was the best game in genre since forever. You dont need constant change if something is already good.

> it began with basic stuff like C&C and dune

And than they improved slightly and improved interface a lot and nothing else changed.

For many games formula for success is "more of the same".

>>16338468

>discussing GD religions

Witch gods are literally random dudes who fucked over korvak and went into hiding later. Protagonist of the game is way more powerful than they are/were. Mogdrogen on the other hand seems like a cool dude who actually works. Although he is a bit high and mighty while you can kick his ass. He is still more powerful than sunny boy and bitchgods.

What's the best witch cult to join for ranged purifier?

>>16338396

you can farm rep for all of them anyway, it's jsut a decision who you want to boost in rep.

>>16338501

Hard to say if you are more powerful than the witch gods were before they ascended. The lore notes show them as being quite powerful and possessing unique powers. Solael had very destructive magic, Bysmiel could manipulate gods, Dreeg could cause insanity. They worked together to bind Korvaak, Bysmiel went about manipulating the priest order and tricking Ulzuin away from the Temple he was supposed to be protecting. When they the guardian was away they attacked Korvaak with Solael doing the brunt of the damage while Dreeg clouded his mind.

None of this would have happened if the gods didn't have their war between themselves. It weakened a lot of them substantially from the power they had to expend. Empyrion decided to sequester himself away from everything, his brother Korvaak decided to remain a fixture for the religion, exposing himself to the risks. Ulzuin, who betrayed C'thon, was to protect Korvaak while he regained strength.

You also never directly "kill" the celestials. For Mogdrogen you face an avatar of his power, strengthened by his connection to the Rowari. Ravager is another avatar situation, his power is channeled into Cairn through the sacrifice you choose. Even when the gods themselves banded together to kill C'thon he still is regaining strength. Once a god reaches a certain point they transcend into a state where they can't really die but can be banished from a realm. Eventually they can regain strength. The witch gods not showing as many weaknesses as Korvaak did shows they learned from what they did to him.

>>16337974

I've got a warlord going. I've just been going for internal trauma/physical damage with judgment and retribution. I'll be getting forcewave+internal trauma once I get enough points in soldier and then just spam the two AOEs. Seems like it might work out. Getting both to 50 for bulwark sounds like a lot of points, especially if you're going to get presence for sure. I'm no master build maker so I'm not sure how common it is for people to max both masteries.

>>16338609

For aegis and forcewave, go 50/50 mastery, take menhir's bulwark, ignore warcry and get celestial presence instead. Octavius set, pummeler, colossal grips, etc. Use a mobility rune and forcewave and aegis as your damage abilities.

>>16338658

How do you get that cool overlay and the boos names?

>>16338668

*boss

>>16338668

Grim Internals, Utilities and Resources section of GD forums. Absolute necessity to keep track of time dilation cooldown so these pieces of shit don't instagib you but previous exciting combos such as aleksander+gargabol made sure to drain that timer down to zero

>>16338680

Thanks!

Nvm just found out that Spark of Ultos is actually an active aura and is actually useful just read item descriptions lmao.

>>16338648

>aegis and forcewave, go 50/50 mastery

how would that be build? Have a guide so I can try this out?

>>16338824

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNklRmB2

You can sub in the mythical closed fist and mythical open hand ring set. And the build does have warcry so ignore that part of the previous statement.

>>16338873

thanks.

>>16338873

I'm playing the same build and i think going 50 Oathkeeper/40 Soldier is better. Take Divine Mandate instead of Oleron's Rage for a huge crit damage improvement. The 10 points go into Clarity of Purpose so you'll end up with a similar amount of OA but way more crit damage. With perfect rolls on all CD gear you hit 25% so Ascension has 75% uptime. These changes really upped my dot.

I also think using Doom is better than serenity because AOE clear seems kind of bad without it. This is my version: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/gZwO1RXZ

I want to try both the new classes at once (already tried Necro), is Inquisitor+Oathkeeper fun?

>>16338891

This dosen't seem to good for Ultimate.

>>16338891

It's a survivability thing with the relic. You can interchange mandate and olerons without losing much (my version has a much higher %trauma).

Btw, stick seal of blades on your main hand for better lifesteal. Game treats ADCtH separate per weapon unless it's a caster off-hand, armor piece, or devotion. Skills that use both weapon slots still only factor in the ADCtH weapon damage for that weapon.

>>16338912

Haven't tried it but the only class combo that I've found to be not great is a Defiler (Necro + Demo).

>>16338891

>Take Divine Mandate instead of Oleron's Rage for a huge crit damage improvement

>50/40

Yes. Celestial presence + divine mandate are too fucking good.

>0 markovian advantage

>0 shattering smash

Bad idea, its great procs. -resist and -DA are too fucking great no not take them ever.

>maxed clarity of purpose

Nigger.

>>16339106

Running markovian or shattering smash on a forcewave/aegis build is pointless. The entire point of the build is to DoT and enemy and avoid getting hit. If you don't have a default weapon attack skill so if you are auto-attacking you are wasting skill points and piloting the character in a very suboptimal way. Works great for a retaliation based warlord though, but without righteous fervor or cadence you are wasting your time.

>>16339135

>wasting skill points

>maxed clarity of purpose

>dot build only require single application of dot

Highest dot overrides lower dot. Unless you have godawful lot of crit chance your damage will be completely random. Not to mention the fact that you can easily chain CD attack skills and the fact that there are no reason not to have default attack skill. Not to mention the fact that 1second duration damage of internal trauma applies every hit so there are no reason to skip on fast attacking skills.

>>16339162

What's so bad about max clarity of purpose? What else am I going to put the points into? This post makes me think you don't understand game mechanics at all. Also shattering smash's resist reduction wouldn't even stack with war cry.

>>16339162

You are mixing up posters, I don't max clarity, I put in 1 point for the life leach resist. DoT are additive from other sources. Forcewave DoT and Aegis DoT are added together. They also have upfront damage. A DoT effect is only overridden when a higher number comes from the SAME source. A forcewave/aegis build is not a high attack speed build, your goal is to stack %trauma damage and apply that DoT from 2 primary sources, reapplying as often as you can. Forcewave tactician was able to apply 500k trauma DoT with easy, aegis is another source of close to or equivalent DoT, with the upside of a lower CD and a %chance for a CD reset.

To reiterate: Highest DoT overrides ONLY the source of that DoT.

>>16339169

Correct. total RR = ( (highest flat RR) + (all -%RR) ) + highest %RR that applies on both positive or negative.

>>16339213

In simpler terms, everything that says -X (ie. -OA -DA -%RR) stacks and anything with keyword reduced doesn't. It's really not that dificult.

>>16338942

My first char was a Defiler, and while I haven't tried it on anything beyond veteran difficulty and he's not really geared up, it works well so far. Beat Acts 1-4 and 7, about to start the Ashes of Malmouth content on him. Focus is on pets, with Fire Strike as my default attack and tons of +fire damage.

I'm the anon that first posted the Warlord question, this is my current character. Add +1 Soldier +1 Oathkeeper in your head since GT doesn't have the shield weapon.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOv3j4Z

Where the fuck did I miss skill and attribute points, by the way? Done everything on ultimate pre-expansion. Did they change stuff around so that you get some from the FG quests?

I'm also not sure what to put my last 4 points into, could go for Hawk for that OA and crit %, or just fill out Obelisk and Tree.

>>16338873

Yeah like the other anon said Oleron's Rage seems silly, you only miss out on some bleed damage but get upwards of 50% crit damage which is massive. No reason to take Oleron's over Divine in my mind.

>>16338891

This is a somewhat similar to mine but I'm obviously going for a different playstyle.

>>16339495

Also I know that my gear is a bit of a mess, just recently hit 100 and not really spent any time grinding yet. Will probably go through FG before that, but might finish the skeleton key dungeons I didn't complete before that.

>>16339495

Secret quests have some skill/attribute points. Path of the three (add difficulties), the hidden quests in ultimate, the Seer in the south of Covens in ultimate after you have kill the AoM boss (this also gets you a crystal pet from Hargate after the quest), and shattering realm gives points for clearing shard 25 (iirc 75-76 s best loot running).

I might be missing something but that should cover it. After you get ultimate unlocked you can buy an unlock stone for new character at the Conclave of the Three, unlocks all difficulties and the portals for normal/elite and gives you the normal/elite quest skill and attribute points. Combine it with a Lokarr armor set and clarity potions and level in elite to about level 73 for faster leveling.

>>16339519

Yeah I started this character on ultimate so couldn't have missed any points from the previous difficulties.

The only quest I realized was missing is the one from the Seer, fucking cunt hides so deep in the camp.

Maybe I'm still missing some hidden quests, I've done the Hargate crystal pet one but like I said I've yet to touch any FG content.

>>16339213

%RR is applied after flat RR and before -%RR. %RR is also multiplicative against current resist while the other two are subtracted. If enemy has 80% resist and you have 20 in all three categories, you get 80%-20=60%*.8=48%-20%=28%.

>>16339495

Grimtools has a checklist page you can upload your character to and it'll tell you which of those skillpoint quests you missed. I think I read it's bugged though if you used a token to unlock ultimate so anything below ultimate will say it hasn't been completed. The token does give you those quest rewards though so don't worry about that.

>>16339537

Dots only deal the highest damage per second from each source of the dot. If you had a 100% weapon damage attack and attacked a million times per second you'd still only deal as much dot damage as if you had attacked once in that same second.

>>16339495

Drop tortoise, take panther, max obelisk and take hawk tortoise is trash. I'd also prsonally drop the overguard modifier since you should be unkillable except for really high shards anyways and all it really does is reduce your damage. Here's most of the changes I'd make with some points left over to spend however you want https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gJ36gN the shield is under maces If you get a bunch of retaliation gear you might want to drop the points in RF since the base skill doesn't affect the retal damage.

>>16339562

Oh I imported my file into the offline version which I haven't updated, the 1.1.1.0 does not have the shield mace.

I was actually considering dropping the overguard modifier since I can get 100% uptime of 1 defensive CD if I properly cycle it with Ascension.

I thought about changing tortoise but couldn't find something where those points were better spent.

Why is it bad, the extra protection layer is a nice safety blanket.

>If you get a bunch of retaliation gear you might want to drop the points in RF since the base skill doesn't affect the retal damage

It adds more charges which in turn makes the added retal damage scale even harder, no?

>>16339562

>>16339592

Also thanks for your input, changed skills around a bit and will probably try skipping Tortoise.

>>16339537

I really don't think you understand the mechanics of the game and maybe how to build a character. I suggest reading the guides section on the GD forums to better understand how DoT and WPS works.

>>16339592

>Why is it bad, the extra protection layer is a nice safety blanket.

The nodes themselves are pretty damn bad and the proc is bad too. 1 point in menhirs will gives you essentially the same thing and with how defensive your character is you really shouldn't proc it often anyways. If you're playing hardcore I guess you could make a point for using it.

>It adds more charges which in turn makes the added retal damage scale even harder, no?

I can't give you a source but I'm fairly sure a tester said on the forums that the charges do not scale the retal damage portion.

>Also what do you think about Dryad?

I think Dryad is even worse than Tortoise. 5 Points for 3 order, terrible nodes and a proc that sucks and you have to bind it to an active ability and trigger it. If you want more heal either use a seal of blades/haunted steel or get ghoul which is also another circuit breaker. The ADCTH heals way more than Dryad ever would and the ghoul proc is a better circuitbreaker than Tortoise. But I don't think you really need more defense.

Decided to try out Oathkeeper for the first time on NG Ult. Which skills should I max out first? What would be a good second mastery for a beginner?

>>16340254

Good luck with farming this set.

>>16340802

For context it's part of a mod, grimmer and grimmest. EL is Elite and grimmest is the hardest sub difficulty. Grim replaces normal and grimmest replaces Veteran. it's fucking hilarious how it sounds like a mexican name though

>>16340805

Build isn't reliant on it, just BiS I reckon.

>killing father kymon demon mode

>lava everywhere

>he jumps at you

>runs super fast

>makes fireballs fall out of the sky

>pretty much every hits takes away 40-60% of my health off

ok

>>16340804

At a guess, soldier and a retaliation build. Where you use the shield throw that scales with retaliation.

>>16340804

occultist, so you can be a plague knight of nurgle/dreeg.

>>16340804

Start Inquisitor and level with Word of Pain since it's basically the single best leveling skill in the game, then pick up Oathkeeper and go for a Rune of Kalastor build.

>>16341421

Max fire resist, beyond that it depends on your class/build.

>>16341622

Are you actually playing HC Ultimate with a controller?

>>16341795

Turned veteran off and dealt with him fine, usually my fire resist is pretty high at around 80% but I lost quite a bit thanks to my gear swapping.

>advanced lighting

>everything looks better

>10% of the game is so dark you cant see anything

>there are no option to make it a little bit brighter, only completely disable advanced lighting

Shit.

>>16341809

Yes. The only problem is picking up items when mobs are around. If anything dodging attacks is slightly easier.

If I add a chance on hit devotion to a default attack replacer, can the devotion trigger from other on hit passive skills or only what the default attack replacer itself hits?

I know that items with on hit effects can trigger devotion procs if tied to a default attack replacer but I'm assuming passive on hit skills can not.

Debating where to put Assassin's Mark on my Warlord, since RF is single target it seems far from ideal. Putting such an important effect on an on hit skill also seems like I'd lower its uptime, not to mention that the passive aoe skills of warlord are not that huge.

So currently I have it on my guardians since they have such a large sweep attack and my RF uses Shield Wall.

>go to the shattered realm

>die a ton of times because of the amount of heroes

>lost most of my progress towards level 59

:) since when did you lose that much xp?

>>16343152

Increases every difficulty.

>>16343336

Fire, Vit, poison and Aether. Also pierce from Traals. He debuff Poison and fire resists so you need to overcap them.

>>16343336

Always use grimtools to look them up. You'll absolutely need it if you're going hardcore as well otherwise some rando motherfucker is gonna slap a -40 resist all and the ride will end

>>16343699

Wayward. You should always have escape.

>>16343704

Wayward is the one that requires a target though. But I do have the Oathkeeper charge which can be used without one.

How is this game? I played Diablo 2 and Path of Exile extensively until the latter turned into cookieclicker shit 2013 or 2014. Then I played the Median XL Sigma mod for Diablo 2 that came out recently and I liked that you had to stun monsters and evade attacks and couldn't just mindlessly kill everything. Also, the progression in that game was really nice with all the challenges and uber bosses that required minmaxing or tactics to take down.

>>16343460

>You'll absolutely need it if you're going hardcore

You always need to have 40 overres anyway.

>>16343699

If you need healing jumping into a pack is not the best idea. Oathbreaker charge is a good escape indeed, I find it covering all escape movement I need. Bosses should really be faster, and their gapcloser is terrible, they should give it splash damage, because if I am moving away they cant hit me with it, because they stop at the end before dealing damage and as result miss.

So I guess healing + damage is better and it has lower cd, unless you dont have any -DA in your build. Byt really you likely dont need it anyway. 2 charges is more than enough since you cant just spam them, it seems they were implemented because some classes dont have any mobility and if your class has it it doesn't really do much for them. Its nice to be able to charge twice as fast but in the end I use it extremely rarely, when some random ranged mob is annoying me and I want to kill him, but my shield throw is on CD. Oathkeeper is too fucking good.

>>16343851

Much better but smaller than poe.

>>16343851

>How is this game?

Something between Torchlight 2, Diablo 2 and Sacred 2 with better itemisation and no always online with LAN function and free DRM client so anyone who pirate GoG version can play online without issues.

>>16343990

Oh its elite nevermind. I think you are on Utimate.

>>16343990

I cant remember, but I think game has "purify" potion. Dot damage is too fucking high in this game.

>pics

Your stats seem low. I wonder if I had amazing luck while playing and gaining BIS items all the way. But worst case scenario just bleed him to death, indeed. Internal trauma and dots in general are too good in this game. And you have no aether resist.

>>16343990

Your amulet, gloves and one of the rings doesn't have components attached. Also 'Ancient Armor Plate' (components on pants) aren't that amazing, especially if your resistances aren't capped.

Import your save to grimtools and link it if you want more suggestions.

>>16344032

And yeah that is kind of low, my lvl 70 Purifier I haven't touched in a while, made some questionable gear decisions on (I noticed now) and haven't bothered to get any factions to revered with yet has more DPS and survivability.

>>16343990

Also a class combo like Purifier gets tons of cunning from their masteries, you'll want to spend nearly all your attributes towards physique. Class combos with low cunning gain like oathkeeper + soldier on the other hand might need to dump some in other attributes.

>>16344086

>lvl 70

>not a single epic item equipped

Did you just get super unlucky or what?

>>16344084

>you'll want to spend nearly all your attributes towards physique

That was changed a bit, now cunning gives you some HP, not sure how much. The problem with cunning is that you need a lot of it for crit or you will suck dick because most of your damage is crit based. I might switch towards cunning later from almost pure phys, but only when I got all items I need. A lot of endgame sets have a lot of HP on them.

But before that I would aim at 100% hitrate without debuffs/buffs and rest into phys. And some into spirit for rings and such, but you probably will have enough of it anyway.

>>16344100

Yeah I don't know what happened, it's an old character I made around the release of AoM. Barely got any legendary (blue items are epic) drops at all, maybe a handful at most (definitely under 5 if even that) and all useless for my build.

Don't know if they've buffed drop rates since then.

I know drop rates are better on higher difficulties and damn it's noticable, was literally swimming in legendary items on my Warlord by the time I hit ~70 which I started on Ultimate from lvl 1.

>>16344117

I've always found that survivability is much harder to come by than DPS whilst lvling. The hp to cunning and spirit is noticeable but it's only 1HP per cunning or 8HP vs 20HP if you spent an attribute point on either cunning or physique.

Some masteries have very poor physique gain, such as both inquisitor and demolitionist but rather high cunning. So on those you need to compensate and add physique. The opposite is true for oathkeepers and soldiers.

>>16344137

Oh you're playing normal, I didn't see that. But you still got really unlucky, by the team I started playing Elite on my Cabbalist, I already had two Epic's equipped.

>>16344168

Nah that character is actually in Elite even into the AoM area, before that I obviously played Veteran. Didn't pay attention to which difficulty was enabled since I just jumped on it to take a screenshot.

>>16344192

Dont have it, but I might give it to you in case it drops. What else do you need stat wise? Hp, resists, obvious, but what damage type/sets? I farmed shitload of useless stuff I dont need but cant just dump because I am a hoarder.

>>16344263

Game GGers pass ni (or maybe Ni). I have some stuff that might fit.

>>16344293

Cant see. Do you create HC game?

>>16344340

Yes hc ult, do you have all expansions installed? You can make your game or I can just browse my stash https://anonfiles.com/l5ncZ4a9nd/stashexport_gds

>>16344363

>>16344340

I am retarded, was hosting on lan.

>>16344436

>Grimmest

What mod is that and is it good?

>>16344464

It's from Grimmalion, the actual mod is called Grimmer and grimmest and it's REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING pretty cool at first but there comes a time when you don't want about a literal hundred enemies on your screen at once. Use the Ungrim version of Grimmalion if you will.

>>16344491

What does the mod do?

>>16344536

Grimmalion adds in a ton of shit but grimmer and grimmest adds in a ton of mobs basically. There's more to it but I can't be fucked to explain.

>>16343882

High overcap (30s) is only important on fire, acid, lightning, and aether. Maybe a bit (15-25) on chaos and vit. There's nothing in the game that does noticeable pierce damage or has good cold RR.

>>16344890

>my Internal trauma tank

Is it called that because it's a tank full of childhood abuse memories?

>>16344915

If you want some shit I can give it to you from here >>16344363

Browse via gstash. Altrough I am not sure if I will, because I also use internal trauma, but I have some sprares.

>>16344921

I appreciate it, but I'm solo self found :^) On a serious note, I wouldn't mind playing some multiplayer hardcore with some anons, but I don't have any character suited for high level ultimate, yet. I have plenty that can farm early ultimate though.

>>16344939

Location?

>>16344949

Burgerstan

What is this, a Chinese Diablo clone?

>>16345068

>chinese

What would even make you think that?

>>16345068

It's actually lovecraftian Titan Quest

>>16345068

It's what >>16345083 said and made by guys from Massachusetts

>>16344429

just read that yesterday, love the mythos in this game. But reading most personal letters and diaries is boring with the exception for the ones you find in the snowy mountains

>>16344048

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gJ81WN

>>16344032

>no Aether res

neither Dravis nor any of his summons deal any Aether damage, I had plenty during my AoM run though.

>>16345830

Put soul shard on your ring and unholy inscription on your gloves. Your shoulders are killing your damage with that elemental to vitality conversion and your guns don't convert to fire damage and one of them has no armor piercing at all. Your neck is doing basically nothing for you as well. When you get one that works, you can put a wardstone on it and your medal to fix up your elemental and bleeding resistance. You should also replace your yellow ring. You should drop horn of gandarr and get points in thermite mines or aura of censure. You seem to be focusing on fire damage and pierce damage with a heavier emphasis on fire but you took assassin's dagger instead of solael's witchblade. Dryad's blessing is also very shit. Redirect those points to solael's witchblade for more RR and finish up ulzuin's torch. Don't assign ghoul to blast shield. It will only be able to proc while blast shield is active.

I really enjoyed the zones in FG, they look great and generally don't overstay their welcome, unlike fucking Ugdenbog.

>>16345830

I see you don't have many armor augments, is Black Legion the only faction at revered reputation? If that's the case buy more of what they have available and replace some of the components to fill in missing resistances.

>Shoulders & Pants

You're 79% overcapped on fire, remove the Molten Skin component from your shoulders and replace it with Silk Swatch (18% bleeding 18% pierce).

Ancient Armor Plate on your pants is bad if your other resistances aren't capped, again I recommend Silk Swatch.

>Belt & Boots

Your Acid & Poison is overcapped by 36%, you don't need to overcap on Elite and especially if your other resistances aren't even at softcap. Remove the Antivenom Salves from your belt and boots and replace them with something else.

Mark of Mogdrogon is nice for boots, if you don't have access to it Mark of the Traveler does the job.

Maybe put a Rigid Shell on your belt for your lightning resistance.

>Gloves

Put Consecrated Wrappings on your gloves for the 5% attack speed. If you can't get your bleeding and vitality resistance high enough through other means consider an Unholy Inscription instead.

>Rings

Soul Shard would be good on your empty ring to up your vitality resistance.

Consider replacing the Mark of Illusions on your other ring if you're still struggling with maxing your resistances.

>Amulet

Put a Dread Skull for it to increase DPS and movement. You can also put an Aether Soul on it for better resistance.

Also augment it, don't know which ones you have available but the Corpsefiend you got on your rings would be alright.

>Skills

Deadly Aim is a good skill but you don't really need to invest that heavily into it, other skills would benefit more.

Vigor is a solid source of health, put at least a few casual points in it for survivability.

Horn of Gandarr doesn't need that many points, it's mostly for CC and while the increased aoe is nice it seems like overkill. Leave only a few in it.

Searing Strike (DW Fire Strike transmuter) is a solid DPS increase

>>16345848

This anon also makes some good points. Those guns aren't ideal. Purifier deal a great amount of their damage as elemental (mainly fire and lightning) and getting resistance reduction for those would be great.

But I have to say that Assassin's Mark is still a great devotion since pierce deals physical damage and is also a large part of your damage source.

This is how I'd change the skill build and devotions.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lV7qzYyN

I'm not completely sold on Rune of Kalastor but if you like using it there's no major harm.

The devotion setup is loosely based on your preferences and just something I threw together, might not be ideal but is much better than your current one.

>>16345893

searing strike requires a melee weapon

>>16345893

I'm working this out now and I'm not feeling good about removing both Arcane Barrier (Crab) and Dryad's Blessing, My survivability is a bit shite as it is, so am I supposed to rely on proper gear from now on?

>>16345931

Dryad isn't very good but I guess you can get away with crab, you might not need the bonus from it so 3 points might be enough.

Focus on the resistance reduction devotions, especially Solael's Witchblade and Rhowan's Crown.

>>16345922

Oh yeah, my bad.

After pirating this for a few hours, I've been having fun. Do the devs deserve my shekels or should I keep plundering booty?

>>16345975

Up to you, The devs are pretty good about patching bugs and general balance, and if you're enjoying the game why not. Only issue is that you need the base game and both expansions to play the current one. You don't have to buy crucible though.

>>16345975

I say they do. While I bought almost every piece of this game during a sale, I've spent about $60. I say buy the base game first and if you're not burned out and there's a sale going, get the expansions.

Crucible is an optional DoW2's "The Last Stand" equivalent great for leveling up new characters and grinding for better loot.

>>16345979

Thing is I went with Inquisitor because I like magic guns and I see that it's only available with the ashes expansion. I may have to grab that.

>>16345978

Would you agree with the other anon that crucible is good for a quick grind or just not worth it? I may just get it in the future.

>>16345975

They are one of the few devs that actually puts out real expansions that were developed after the base game, with no microtransactions or any other major jewry. I have no problems supporting them. If you like the game I'd certainly consider it.

>>16345987

Crucible is pretty good but shattered realms at higher shards is way better for getting loot. If you like the horde wave fighting style though it might be worth it for you.

>>16345987

Eh I'm not a fan of it, but if for whatever reason you really want to grind shit hard crucible is the best place for it, but you don't really ever need to. Also what did you choose for your second class?

>>16345990

I just went with soldier for something more simple until I understand the game a bit better.

>>16345995

Tactician works pretty well, you just need to remember your resists and the like. Also devotions are incredibly important, so remember to spend those points and go out of your way to get every shrine you can find.

>>16346005

>Also devotions are incredibly important

I can vouch for that, components too. I was about 11k dps but after devotions and components I shot up to nearly 20k. pretty much all my attacks spread out a shit ton thanks to the molten fragments or whatever it's called too which is neat

>>16346013

oh also you should never spend your attribute points in anything other than physique unless you know exactly how much you need for a given piece of gear, and even then you can usually get it in other better ways.

>>16345931

Also another good way to increase survivability is increasing Inquisitor Seal, Vigor isn't bad either since it offers some health and reduces lock down. Main way to increase survivability is first maxing resistances and don't shy away from picking a few pieces of gear with good health boosts even if it reduces your dps.

Tortoise can be an okay devotion on squishier builds and it activates after Blast Shield so one of them can save your life while the other is cooling down.

>>16346014

I always have the option to respec right?

>>16346019

yeah, but it requires that you do the first bit of malmouth which is after the main game. Physique is just better for survivability and hp. There are specific builds that do different things ofc, but especially for a starter more hp is going to help you more than dealing slightly more dps.

>>16346014

Never say never, all masteries have different stat growth per point invested in their mastery bar.

Some classes like Oathkeeper for example only get 125 cunning at 50 points compared to the 200 of Inquisitor.

But yeah in the case of soldier + inquisitor I'd say you can pretty comfortably dump everything into physique.

You might need to spend a few points in spirit to use legendary rings and amulets since soldier + inquisitor gets 300 spirit with both maxed out and you'll need 394. Otherwise you'll have to rely on spirit from other sources such as components, gear and devotions.

>>16346019

Just save 10 or so points to meet gear requirements when you need them. Once you hit max level, you can grind to nemesis rep on enemy factions and then hunt nemesis to get attribute reset potions. You also get a few reset potions for free from some quests in expansion areas.

>>16346029

Even on oathkeeper unless you're doing some wonky nonsense with gun+board or caster weapons you're not gonna want to hit cunning/spirit up. Certainly it's not as important as before the rework, but the additional hp per point investment is much better for almost every build unless you're a Spellbreaker who can keep mirror up 24 hours a day, or someone else with incredibly hard mitigation, which a lot of class combos don't have.

>>16346029

Forgot but you probably only want to put 40 points in Soldier since the Inquisitor has a better exclusive if you're not going for a physical build. Which puts you at 285 spirit.

Other beginner tips

>Get resist reduction devotions

>It's worth grinding a reputation or two for those sweet resistance augments

>Press the 'A' key to pick up loot

>Golden triangle(ish) shape in bottom right action bar increases size of minimap

>Green items are always worth looting even at lvl 100 but feel free to filter out yellow items unless you don't mind the extra town runs for more dosh

>>16346035

I have trouble keeping my OA at a respectable level on my Warlord without dumping some points into cunning. Oathkeeper also has nice crit damage boosting from Divine Mandate and Aehis of Menhir deals good crits as well.

>>16346041

Really? I haven't had an issue except when shit hits me hard with fumble chances, but no build is immune to that shit.

>>16346041

>>16346035

Also had to dump something in the range of 19 attribute points into spirit to reach the softcap of 394. Will adjust if I find good gear that just so happens to have spirit but don't want to specifically look for gear with spirit.

>>16346042

I've heard that something in the range of 2500 OA at lvl 100 is good enough. I don't reach that number permanently but using Crushing Verdict to reduce enemy DA by a bit over 200 and Markovian advantage for another 100 or so helps me land crits reliably.

But even with Presence of Virtue at max and Field command at something like 6/12 I still have ~2400 OA. And this is with 30 or so points spent in cunning. Will import my build into grimtools later and see how much OA I'd lose by skipping that cunning.

>>16346050

>>16346042

Did some testing and on an older version of my build I had saved in GT on my laptop and on it 30 points in cunning gave me 150 OA compared to 600 health if those instead were in physique.

Obviously changes depending on if I get more %health or %OA but I believe on the current build I have 14600 HP, so giving up ~600 for more crits isn't a huge deal.

>>16346058

That reminds me I need to test if Cadence or RF is better for a left click replacement.

>>16346063

If you use Retaliation, RF. If not I believe Cadence might win out. It could also be that RF deals slightly higher single target DPS either way, whilst Cadence offers extra AoE capabilities from fighting form.

So yeah, no idea unless you're using retaliation. Report your results, I'm curious.

>>16346050

Crushing verdict and markovian advantage don't stack. Neither does blitz/blindside for that matter.

>>16346063

It probably depends on how much you've invested in wps skills. Cadence's third hit cannot proc a wps skill and righteous fervor buffs the damage of your wps by a huge amount. For example, at 16/16 RF and 10/10 smite you'd do about 234% weapon damage on smite procs I believe.

>>16346082

Oh I thought only flat resistance reduction didn't stack.

Well it doesn't change my build anyway, the DA reduction on Markovian Advantage is a nice bonus but not the reason for picking it.

Same anon just new ID

>>16346113

It's the same mechanic, flat DA/OA reduction doesn't stack but -DA/OA does like occultist pox and curse.

>>16346072

alright, just tested it.

Here's the results.

With the level 1 shield+mace, no armor, and no buffs but maxed WPS we get that cadence completely beats out RF by a pretty sizable margin of about 15% dps.

With Field Command maxed, PoV maxed, and Counterstrike maxed, Cadence beats out RF by about 20%.

Now this is all without gear on, once we actually put gear on the story changes a good bit.

Just changing the weapon obviously doesn't change anything, we still see that Cadence scales a little better with main hand weapon damage than RF does. The attack speed from RF by itself only gives me a little extra dps from procs. But I wanted to test it with just a weapon change to see if the procs gave me more overall dps.

Using the full perdition (level 94) set (still with the level 1 mace) RF starts doing doing roughly 2 times as much as cadence. I actually went back and refunded points so they'd be at normal cap

So from what I'm getting at is, cadence is much better when you don't have retaliation damage on your gear, or if you have a good main hand weapon. RF only starts really outshining cadence once you are incredibly invested into retaliation damage increases.

Funny side note though, Oleron's rage is giving me a higher dps boost than Divine Mandate is on both Fervor and Cadence. So unless you crit a lot (this guy had basically a 0% crit chance on dummies) Oleron's rage beats out mandate because of the attack speed and flat phys damage increases, even on RF.

>>16346135

Oh damnit I knew I forgot something, This man had no devotions for the duration of the testing.

>>16346135

Testing with a level one mace is faulty. Cadence has deadly momentum which buffs your weapon damage and will also make it better if you're using non wps skills as well like blade arc. RF also buffs your defenses with DA, armor, and resists.

Oleron is probably winning because of your low OA which it boosts. It doesn't give attack speed and they have similar internal trauma bonus damage. However Mandate does give slow resistance which is somewhat difficult to come by and you'll probably go to 50 oathkeeper anyway for the resist shred when there's nothing like that at 50 for soldier.

>>16346158

I swapped weapons once I started using actual gear, tried it with the Totally Ordinary Shield and a Benorath Reforged. Also right it's movement speed.

>>16346135

>So unless you crit a lot (this guy had basically a 0% crit chance on dummies) Oleron's rage beats out mandate because of the attack speed and flat phys damage increases, even on RF.

Well obviously Oleron's Rage is better if you have low OA since they both add the same physical and internal trauma %. Just like you said the OA boost lets you hit more often but the % crit damage doesn't come into account at all.

I appreciate your thoroughness but that comparrison is kind of pointless. I strongly believe Divine Mandate is much better if you have decent OA, which you should have any way.

>>16346174

Well I mean I did leave out that I tested it at 2500 OA, and it was still Oleron's. The crits just weren't coming fast enough at that. It'd be useful for a dervish but not a Warlord

>>16346176

Just seems odd to me, not saying your results are wrong but something else might be playing a part.

When using it with RF with both at 12/12 it would be

>135% Burn Damage

>50% crit damage

vs

>12% OA

Now sure the burn damage doesn't add much at all (96k physical 4.2k fire dps at peaks on my build) but on paper it seems like the crit bonus should have a rather severe impact.

>>16346188

You'd think but that 12% OA was 5% crit chance. Also the burn doesn't do much, it was only around 4k without mandate and 4.5k with it. Note that this was all designed specifically to minimize differences in damage. Obviously if you built for burn it'd tick for higher. But most of the stuff used was either neutral or added +damage to things the build didn't use to get to decent OA

>>16346201

If you used a low damage weapon, maybe crit damage % doesn't get as much leverage as it would normally?

I'm curious, need to do some testing as well.

>>16346218

It may have to do with how I got the OA by stacking cunning? It may also have to do with the no devotions. I was also using

https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/13727

and

https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/9466

So it could be with any of those. But that wasn't a main focus so it was more of seeing if I could get cadence to bypass RF when you're geared for it, which the answer to that was no you cannot. Cadence falls off really hard if you can get decent amounts of retaliation going, because PoV and Counterstrike become pretty substantial damage buffs.

>>16346201

Ok I just plugged in numbers into a spread sheet.

At 2500 OA vs moneybags martin who has 2148 DA (training dummies have even less DA) at level 100, you'd have 100 PTH which is 10% chance to crit for 1.1x damage. Adding oleron brings you up to 108.6 PTH which means 18% chance to crit; 15% for 1.1x and 3.6% for 1.2x. Meanwhile, mandate will boost your 2500 crit values to 10% chance of 1.45x crit damage. If you already have high crit damage from gear or devotions, oleron is probably better for more consistent crits. Notably, you need 3400 OA before Oleron to reach the final crit threshold of 1.5x crit damage which is still only 45% crit chance. However, consistent crits don't matter for DOT builds, crit damage does due to the way dot stacking works. In that case, mandate will always be better.

>>16346261

Yeah, DoT stacking is… I don't understand why they did it like they did.

>>16346261

>>16346232

Just did some testing on my current build with 12/12 in both, fully buffed and spammed Verdict on CD.

I only have 2244 OA and 5% crit damage without either exclusive active.

Oleron's Rage got up to ~145k dps at some peaks whilst Divine Mandate got up to ~167k at its peaks.

With Oleron I also dipped below 100k rather often but with Divine Mandate I did so very rarely sat around ~110-120 rather often with some much higher peaks.

Haven't used GrimInternals much, is there a better way to compare DPS than to eye the meter?

>However, consistent crits don't matter for DOT builds, crit damage does due to the way dot stacking works. In that case, mandate will always be better.

This might be what makes Divine Mandate perform better, RF lists Internal Trauma as doing ~half of what the physical component does.

>>16346282

I remember GrimInternals tends to read high, but it's also what I use.

>>16346282

You could time how long it takes for the dummy to activate its life restore+shield ability. That'll take a long time at low damage levels though.

Should I be using components often or save them for better gear?

>>16346294

Inventor can extract components from gear while destroying the gear in the process so feel free to use them. You can also do the opposite; remove components from gear but keep the gear and lose the components

>>16346294

Depends on which ones honestly. Also on how much they will actually help out in the short term. If you have an overabundance of them you should be fine but as I recall you can combine them to make better ones which takes quite a few, especially for the rarer ones,

>>16346294

Some are pretty free use, rarer ones you may want to keep, but feel free to shove the non-yellow mats in basically whatever you want and take them out later. like >>16346298 said

>>16346298

Is the inventor kasparov? Do I get access to it when I find his apprentice?

>>16346300

I can see that some offer low level bonuses and only take 3 stacks for a full one so I'll use those.

>>16346301

That's neat, so I can pretty much recycle them over and over then?

>>16346306

Yeah, pretty much but you will lose the item it's attached to. And the inventor whore is in a dank cellar actual name in burrwitch estates

>>16346306

Yeah you can put even better components on your gear if you want, the only reason to keep gear you outgrow is to pass it into alts so if it's not some really good item there's no harm in destroying it and getting the component back.

>>16346306

you always want to get a completed component before putting it on something.

>>16346298

>>16346311

Doesn't this take dynamite or something or am I thinking of breaking down gear for crafting materials? If so he might be pretty low on it early in the game.

>>16346330

No taking the component out of gear only costs bits. You are thinking of breaking down gear. Which.. I have never actually done in 300+ hours of playtime

>>16346344

smuggler stash has two tabs, one for personal stash and another that is for all characters.

I'm not sure what you mean by removing skills on rare items.

>>16346373

That skills is from the searing ember which you can remove from the gear while destroying the gear like previously mentioned.

>>16346344

no

>>16346406

>>16343336

https://www.grimtools.com/monsterdb/1799/skills

that's the one I ran into yesterday, but that's like the final hour of the last expansion.

>>16346406

The only ones I can think of are chthon bosses like loggy's doombolt. Wendigos, and wendigo spirits in ugdenbog all do vitality damage though. You could probably fit some soul shards on your rings and stuff for a nice chunk of vit resist. They also give energy absorption which is super helpful.

How good are Guardian's of Empyrion at proccing stuff like Assassin's Mark? Thinking that I might be better off putting it on my RF.

Can't toggle Griminternals to show debuffs on regular enemies which makes it hard to judge.

Also are pets that scale with the player affected by auras?

What class should I play when starting out for the first time?

>>16346881

Solder if HC, whatever you want if SC.

>>16346932

There's nothing wrong with that. Back in pre-AoM days you had 85s using level 50 legendaries as their best in slot pieces it doesn't reflect the power of an item except for MI's where you would always want the highest tier affixes and such

>>16346932

Too low or too high? 84 is one of the level tiers of the "mythical" tier of legendaries, the other being 94. That is to say you won't find a level 94 version of that shield.

>>16346997

I'm lvl 100 so I'd rather see a lvl 94 shield, but plenty of the lvl 94 shields would be much worse for me, so I can't complain too much.

>>16346976

Yeah, I guess.

Which Ravager is considered the easiest? I guess it depends on the build but all versions look sort of nasty.

I'm leaning towards Ravager of Flesh because he can't cause fumble or reduce my attack speed.

Any tips? Doing this on Ultimate and I clearly need to overcap my bleed and vitality res by 30% for Flesh, what else can I do to prepare?

I'll chug some consumables, list so far is:

>Ugdenjuice

>Ugdensalve

>Royal Jelly Essence

>Royal Jelly Ointment

>Vilescar Ointment

Don't have access to a consumable which reduces bleeding duration (if there even is one). Maybe I should respec from Divine Mandate into Menhir's Bulwark?

With the Vilescar I'll have 54% lifesteal res but wouldn't hurt to have more.

>>16347196

Flesh also has a very strong energy drain, so you better have harp ready to go to keep from getting zeroed out. The slow one might actually be easier, since 80% slow res means your attack speed drops for about half a second.

Just pump your armor/phys res/absorption as high as it'll go. Ravager just does retard high amounts of physical damage, but if you can soak that, you're good. His bleed/vit/aether is pretty marginal, and you can soak it with ADCTH. Since it sounds like you're a warlord, you can get your armor up to 5-7k and just sit around bashing him in the face (assuming you don't go the busted retal route and glass him in a few minutes). As far as consumables go, courageous tincture (Homestead) is primo for fighting these types of bosses. So is aetherward oil (Malmouth), since I assume you're using a shield.

>>16347196

Ravager of flesh doesn't life steal, he deals life reduction. Menhir's bulwark will help with that some but vilescar won't. He also shreds resists by up to 55% so you might want more overcap unless you intend to kite during his secondary shred.

>>16347290

If its softcore, than just go and try it.

>>16347290

That's not life steal, that's attack damage converted to health. That doesn't make you take more damage. Life steal is like what mad queen has. Also yes 25 reduced resistance is -25% and with his other shred that's 55% total.

How much should I overcap my resistances for Ultimate shards to be on the safe side and counter potential enemies with RR?

>>16347641

30-40% is safe unless you get something retarded like outcast + another boss that can shred. There's a shrine that gives 30% all resists for just 8% health.

>someone asking for cyclone set hc

I have offhand if you still need it.

Two questions:

1. Can multiple attacks proc at the same time? Like if I had both Zolhan's Technique and Shattering Smash could they both go off on the same attack? Or would it not be worth it to have both?

2. Does lowering physical resistance increase internal trauma damage?

>>16347675

Needed but not now.

>>16347738

>Can multiple attacks proc at the same time? Like if I had both Zolhan's Technique and Shattering Smash could they both go off on the same attack?

Yes they can go off at the same time. Zolhan's Technique along with fighting form and the other one soldier has are usually 1 point wonder skills in almost every soldier-used class.

>Does lowering physical resistance increase internal trauma damage?

Yes. IT ignores armour, but is reduced by physical resistance

>>16347908

Zolhan and shattering smash are both wps, they can't proc at the same time. I don't even know why you mentioned fighting form.

>>16347738

You should get both just because it's impossible to hit a 100% rate on one or the other.

>>16347934

You're right, I was thinking about their dot's more than anything.

>>16347954

I hate to be that guy, but Markovian Advantage doesn't have a dot.

>>16347738

If you get 4x 25% chance to proc weapon skills you'll always activate one of them, but like others have already said they can't activate at the same time. They can however activate devotions.

>Spend over an hour killing what feels like a hundred champions and bosses from shard 1 to 18

>Have other stuff I need to do and leave

>Not a single legendary

At what point does this become worth the effort? Could have ran multiple key dungeons and be showered in legendaries.

>>16348849

Not until 30-40, even then it won't drop that much. But it'll keep scaling up the loot rewards the higher you go to the point where it fills your screen with purple. Also, try to stop at intervals of 5 shards since that's how the checkpoint system works.

So is the new expansion actually good? Worth buying? How much content is there compared to the previous?

>>16349033

Campaign feels roughly similar in size (though maybe a tad shorter and with 1 class instead of 2) and they added a new endgame challenge through the Shattered Realms which offers far more variety than running The Crucible or Skeleton Key dungeons for gear farming purposes.

They also added set conversion which lets you turn a set item into either a different part of the same or a completely random set of the same level and rarity.

Turning into a different set is a bit more expensive.

>>16349033

I would say less, but if you though that previous was worth it, this one too.

>>16349045

>>16349051

Sounds interesting. Wasn't really a fan of Crucible. Guess I'll try it.

>>16349045

Less content but it's more polished. No shitty city environments and more visual variety, Shattered Realms are a neat idea and pretty fun. The mobility skills are pretty underwhelming though, they're more or less all just for escaping/engaging, no fun teleport ADHD movement allowed.

>>16347675

Alright i'm here.

>>16350144

GGers / ni

>shattered realm gives me shard 2 boss that literally kills me in one hit

Yeah, that's fucking fair.

>>16350509

what boss was it

>>16350509

>Get Avatar of Korvaak

>He leap slams my tank build for over 50% health

O-okay

>>16350509

Perfectly fair. You're really gonna feel it once you're up against 5 bosses all capable of 1shotting your face off while getting buffed with mutators that make them borderline immortal. It's fuckin great let me tell you

>>16350544

The biggest cancer are arcane mobs, holy fuck why is buff stripping even a mechanic?

If they're gonna have that retarded stuff at least give us a way to counter it with dispell resistance or something.

>>16350554

They all lob a purple ball at you which is what strips you of buffs so as long as you notice their animation starting just teleport away, disengage, stun or freeze whatever you got. In the really deep shards the ultimate bullshit is simply trying to survive the intense damage that multiple nemesis bosses will be swarming you with. Good fucking lord don't get me started on fighting Grava in those cramped boss rooms especially with multiple moos' spawning their freeze crystals everywhere

I'm lvl 25 and already went to the forgotten gods area, is this right or should I wait with this? I'm not sure but I think all the areas I have been to scale to my characters level.

I'm playing a Necromancer with Ravenous earth, what should I get for my second class?

>>16350534

Fuck If I remember, I just kept running circles and throwing a pipe bomb. Gay ass boss.

the others were piss easy though

>>16350536

Had a similar thing, pretty annoying when you're thinking "fuck I'm powerful" and then some nigger just jumps to you and takes 50% off.

>>16350544

Sounds fucking gay.

>>16350627

Start the dlc when you're capable of actually not dying constantly. That's how I did it at least.

Is Oleron's Might worth using for the damage reduction? Got 8% from low Warcry and 15% chance of 10% from Kymon's Chosen augment, I know they stack but with some diminishing return.

I realized I have two items with skills that aren't even bound and my action bar is full, considering putting a Seal of Blades on my weapon instead. Any other good options for a sword & board build?

>>16350565

>They all lob a purple ball at you which is what strips you of buffs

Oh, thanks hadn't even noticed. Will pay attention next time I meet one so I can learn how they look.

>>16350627

Depends on what you want to do with it, it's s pretty flexible mastery.

You can go for minions, vitality caster, aether caster (with arcanist) and vitality melee to mention a few.

Also you're right content does scale (within some limits depending on where you are and difficulty).

The new expansion is easier than the first expansion so it's not a bad idea to do it first, if you feel it's too challenging keep doing the main campaign like anon above suggested.

You'll have to play through the game on Elite and Ultimate too, though when you've done it once you can buy tokens and make new characters skip to the unlocked difficulty (you'll be lvl 1 but level faster).

>>16350627

Its fine, it scales from lvl 15 or so. But they are a little bit harder than base game and might be lower on exp, but in the end its irrelevant. Do whatever you want.

>>16350657

>>16350643

I assume Elite and Ultimate are Nightmare/Hell? Are those unlocked after playing through the base game? If so I might just finish the campaign before playing further in the expansion area.

>>16350657

Damage reduction debuffs do not stack

>>16350669

Oh, and also what should I do with all the socketable items I'm dropping. Should I keep them or will they be useless later?

>>16350669

You should at least get to barrowholm and unlock the witch coven and barrowholm reps as well as the witch god reps before moving to the next difficulty. This way you will be gaining rep with them while your still doing the main campaign on the next difficulty.

>>16350681

I assume you mean components. Keep all of them, they are usually used for crafting. Feel free to use them in armor though since you can reclaim them while destroying the gear at an inventor.

>>16350669

Elite is harder and Ultimate is internal screaming basically.

>finish the game once

>get elite

>elite lets you play again from the beginning but with a harder challenge

>finish elite

>get ultimate

>>16350669

Alternatively you can start game at ultimate after you finished elite with one character.

>>16350509

>>16350544

>>16350554

Are the rewards at least worth it? Any uniques that are impossible to get outside of SR?

>>16350729

There's an entire set unique to it as well as a pet. You're guaranteed to get the set at specific shard counts. At higher shard counts you get tons of legendaries and BPs as well.

>>16350739

In short, yes.

It works on a debuff system. -X reduced is its own debuff while -X% is part of the debuff you cast. X reduced is its own debuff as well. Compare the tooltip for curse of frailty to warcry's break morale. There's no duration listed for the resistance shred on curse of frailty while there is on break morale. Same thing with the defensive ability reduction on curse and markovian advantage. As far as I know there is only one type of damage reduction and that's X% which won't stack. Also if you have something like warcry and nullification from arcanist, it will use whichever is highest for the damage type.

>>16350726

Not really. You need to get to FG content on Ult first and buying start on ult token.

>>16350768

Yeah you'll have to finish Elite but don't need to finish Ultimate for the Ultimate token, just need to kill the warden which unlocks the FG content.

>>16350768

>>16350780

Yes.

>>16351751

I'm at work and can't offer detailed analysis but right off the bat it looks like you have too many points spread out into active abilities. My most successful builds focus on a maximum of 2/3 abilities (not including main attack) for a strong rotation, and those excess points you have spread out could be focused into one or two damage types. It also looks like your damage output is incredibly spread out, nothing reaches over 1100%. For comparison my shaman is at +2200% Lightning damage with some excess in physical and bleeding.

If RF is your main source of damage then you want to overcap that as much as possible. I don't see there being any reason to have 22 points in counterstrike which is a proc ability. It looks like you're heavily reliant on Ascension as well which means you have a massive 10 second gap in usable damage output while those points could be spent on RR. Also, not every passive is worth investing in when creating a strong build and you have points in every single one.

If I were you I'd figure out 2 damage types I'd want to be cranking out (physical + ret for example) and max that as much as possible. Don't be afraid to take points out of passives as well (such as shield training) and focus those on more valuable assets such as RR or circuit breakers. I'm sure another anon will have more guidance but this is what I'd start thinking about.

>>16352527

Drop your blue devotions, pick up mogdrogen and bysmiel. With remaining points either get jackal + rattosh(vitality resist shred) or get huntress(bleed shred). Max storm spirit, hellfire, and soul harvest on bone harvest for max flat damage to pets. Drop manipulation, it's fucking nothing compared to how much you get from gear. Reclaim mastery points and put them in necro for master of death. You can drop bonds of bysmiel to one for gear bonuses now or later. Max spectral wrath for vit shred after you max master of death and will of the crypt. Get 1 point in eye of dreeg + the transmuter for devotion proccing. Work on rover rep for mogdrogen's blessing ring augments. Similarly barrowholm rep for ravager's eye on your weapons. Keep an eye out for imbued silver and purified salt recipes, they help a lot with your and your pet's survivability.

>>16352470

>If I were you I'd figure out 2 damage types I'd want to be cranking out (physical + ret for example)

That's exactly my focus, but with defence added to the mix. The problem with RF is that increasing it doesn't increase the scaling of the retaliation bonus, so I'm actually thinking about dropping it down to 1 point (in effect putting it at 5/16)

>It looks like you're heavily reliant on Ascension as well which means you have a massive 10 second gap in usable damage output while those points could be spent on RR

It's a great damage boost but it's also one of my main defensive skills, I cycle between it and Overguard for 100% uptime between the two.

RF is my only damaging ability, everything else consists of debuffs, buffs and mobility. My other main source of damage is retaliation which is both passive and from Counterstrike.

Also retaliation is global, meaning that acid retaliation benefits as much as physical retaliation from retaliation %. The only thing that matters in that regard is RR, which means yeah I should focus on physical retal because of my Assassin's Mark and guardian passive, but other retaliation sources still boost my RF and Smite.

Maybe I've spent a bit much in Shield Training but I've been rather sparse with the points spent on my circuit breaker.

>>16352642

Thanks a lot, that was very helpful.

>>16352658

Drop RF to 1 and get field command and war cry. Also consider markovian's defense for more uptime on overguard. Put aether soul on your medal and swap out your shield component for something that gives shield stats like battered shell or serrated shell. You could also replace your glove and neck components for something better. You should farm the messenger for his helm, it adds another 8% retal to RF. Also throw your eldritch essences at the forgotten gods legendary blacksmith and pray for stoneguard amulet.

>>16352658

I wouldn't drop RF to 1 unless he's really fucking desperate, RF is his main damage source. I'd sooner drop judgement because even though the DA reduction is nice, that's 10 points tied up. I'd also scrap a few points from shield training because he's pretty solid block chance wise especially with OG up.

Agreed about field command and maybe Markovian's defense, but definitely no on MD if he drops RF down.

>>16352847

He's going to do no weapon damage anyway due to the focus on retaliation damage and the retaliation added to attack doesn't scale with RF levels, it scales with retribution. That's why I suggested the helmet and amulet since those both increase the retal to attack on RF. Trust me, hitting a boss for an extra 1k weapon damage isn't gonna do anything when the boss is already hitting himself for 100k and your retal to attack is doing 10k+ and that'll go up by 2-3x as he gets gear.

He could reach 100% shield block chance with acc augments and stoneheart oil+aetherward oil but that becomes harder, if not impossible, if he drops shield training unless he uses a battered/reinforced shell but then he can't use serrated shell. With a serrated shell, that's 100% block recovery with overguard. Together with 100% block chance, that'll drastically boost his survivability as long as he stays out of ground effects since those are the only things you can't block. Until he gets a better relic like citadel or menhir's bastion, I wouldn't drop any points from shield training.

>>16352900

I was under the impression that the RF charge rate did scale the overall damage. So he'd at least want it at 16 so he could get the 8 charges as opposed to 6

Is it worth doing SR on Elite or should I wait until Ultimate?

>>16352916

I'm fairly certain it does not. With my own testing, I see similar numbers are 30% charge and 100% charge.

>get to Barrowholm

>decide to side against them since they're obviously cannibals

>look up what that entails after I've already killed them and am at despised

>the best 1h poison augments for siding with them (I'm melee poison Witch Hunter)

Feels bad. Only on veteran though, so gonna redo it and side with them on elite.

>>16352990

yeah well if that's the case completely drop that shit down to 1. Max Warcry and Field Command and Menhir's Bulwark. Drop Judgement, and pick up MD

>>16353366

You can buy augments from them? Where? From who? I searched the entire town and found nothing.

>>16353366

>>decide to side against them since they're obviously cannibals

As if its a bad thing. Also why they prefer eating people when there are almost no people left and they live in the middle of monster/animal infestation. Where do they get people anyway?

>>16353422

You need to finish a couple of quests and probably reload a game.

>>16353813

I think it smells JEWCY

>>16350692

Are you mentally retarded or just a fucking idiot? Kill yourself shit for brains.

>>16355338

Yeah drop advantage I forgot about that, It doesn't stack with judgement's reduction. You could also drop zolhan's, it has no retal to attack and the slow is just gonna make it take longer for enemies to die.

My point is getting better resist components so you can use the shield augments on your rings. Until you can stack really high retal to attack, attack speed won't help you that much. As you said the only shield block chance augment is survivor's resilience. You could go with something else though if you had a shield block chance relic like citadel, I recommend farming nemesis or a roguelike dungeon or even shattered realm if you're confident you can reach a decent shard level.

>>16355498

Yeah I added Aether Soul to both my amulet and medal and was able to add 1 Survivor's Resilience to a ring.

I kind of like Zolhan (only 1 points to get it to 6) for reducing the damage I take. I'll consider removing it when I want enemies to take more damage from my retal instead of working on tanking up.

Current build, applied a lot of the recommended changes. Still have a lot of farming ahead of me.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2MpyjmN

I want to try an aether/cold damage build. Arcanist obviously, but would necromancer be the best second mastery for it?

For a Warlord, what should I bind Assassin's Mark to? Is the Guardian of Empyrion a good choice since RF isn't AoE?

>>16355529

Yeah Spellbinder is still a good class I believe, used to be somewhat OP and has suffered nerfs since because of near invulnerability with mirror and mark.

>>16354387

I've played this game a good amount and I don't remember this stuff happening before FG. I also encountered two enemies yesterday that got stuck in walls and couldn't do anything but I could still attack them. Either I've just been lucky or the new stuff is buggier.

>>16355578

Same. In nearly 300 hours never had anything like that happen. Just started playing again so waiting to see if anything does.

>shard 5 boss

>spawns about 20 enemies

>they kill me in three hits

>they move fucking fast

wtf i love this game

>>16355636

>shard 5

>only one boss

>not shard 50+ with multiple nemesis

>>16355642

It was actually shard 5 with two bosses that both instakilled me and spawned in (together) about 20 enemies.

I'd be able to get higher if I had more polished emeralds for the waystones

>>16355911

Pay attention to his animation if you aren't in melee of him, he has a specific one he does before he shoots a ton of projectiles in a fan in front of him. It's pretty common for people to not see it and run into melee with him just to eat the whole blast at once.

>>16336622

I swear pet aggro doesn't work. I use Curse of Frailty ONCE, and I immediately have every single mob on the screen chasing my ass.

White Lotus seems kinda ass tbh. No retal damage, the health restore skill looks like ass unless you're fighting against enemies with veeery slow dots. The resistances look nice but I don't think that they're worth giving up 72% more retaliation damage.

>>16356170 oops meant for >>16356151 of course.

>>16356151

>>16356172

70% increased damage is nothing at high level. If you need survivability, than go for lotus. And I dont see a situation where you need 5% more damage over lots of hp, resist etc. But I guess 1k burn damage/s is nice if you can boost it enough. But retaliation build imply that you will be hit a lot so lotus will be the best option. You can put component with that shitty retaliation anyway, its 35% increase?

>>16356170

>>16356550

That burn damage turns to ~15k over 3 seconds after retaliation bonuses. But yeah 72% isn't massive when I already have around 1.3k.

The extra resistance could possibly enable me to use better augments that aren't solely resist focus, so that would be a bonus which could potentially lead to more retaliation.

It's a hard decision, especially when I've been struggling with increasing my OA.

Here's my current build, posted it earlier but done some changes: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYM3yeN

>>16358665

In The Crucible I at least don't run the risk of wasting over an hours of my time for no reward at all just because I run into a wall of RNG.

>>16358665

>>16358693

Actually its the reason you have to pay for maps in PoE. Because people would just run towards hardest difficulty and die in one shot and than complain about it.

>>16358701

You have to pay for fucking maps? Real money? Jesus. I knew the game was shitty but not that shitty.

>>16355970

Curse of Frailty draws an obscene amount of aggro for some reason.

>>16359380

yellow maggots can only be killed by fire damage.

also some areas are barred sometimes and sometimes not. this is just a case of a building being barred. if you reload the session it is highly possible that it isnt blocked anymore. thats jsut gow grim dawn passages work.

>>16359392

>yellow maggots can only be killed by fire damage.

Elaborate please. I've already met maggots that are spawned by incubator scarabs, mummies and flaming ghosts that I can't even target. I can hit them with AoE's, pets and by attacking air and even deal damage, but they don't seem to care at all.

>>16359422

maggots with yellow names (magic enemies shit).

also that just sounds like a bug, cant say it happened to me yet. might want to reinstall the game.

>>16358729

Well from what I remember there was a bit ago where someone did the math on how quickly they obtain currency and found out that they can't actually have the currency they have unless a dev or something was helping them with drop rates. This as opposed to saying "we don't do this" or whatever they pushed a super hard campaign against it and it seemed super suspicious

>>16359428

It's not really that much about the moment to moment gameplay but figuring out the game's systems, how stats work and trying your best to break the game/ make it work.

>>16359829

Had a followup question I meant to ask, should I use Seal of Blades over Might if I have no other source of lifesteal? I guess I could always use those glove components with cast speed and lifesteal.

>>16359829

I mean there's a reason why they've been using the same spam chat messages for over 3 years now in spite of the devs "making it harder" for them.

That aside the flat retaliation should be worth more than the %increase. Also that additional block chance is helping you.

>>16359860

Yeah but I definitely think it outshines the shield mace with the 3 set, even the two set bonus grants massive retal bonus and 244% probably does more than the flat. However the the skill bonus is amazing so even 2/3 is probably not worth it.

The retal to shattering smash is strong too. More farming ahead I guess.

As for PoE, I've also heard rumors of some of the third-party sites having a direct connection to (((Tencent))).

It's all just sad, the game had great potential.

>>16359889

yeah but you'd have to replace 3 pieces, not just the mace

>>16359829

transmute it into the amulet

>>16360133

What about kymon's sword, it's basically made for one hand eye of reckoning. Also soulfire is way overleveled. Why are you using empowered eternal band? and stormcaller over divine mandate?

>>16360052

That's actually not a crazy idea, thanks for the suggestion.

>>16360133

Nah playing normal, never got into the permadeath meme for games where you can lose hundreds of hours in progress from dying.

But thanks for offering, though playing self-found is also not that bad in GD I find.

>>16360175

This but I don't see why Stormcaller is wrong, the Cyclone converts all physical and the cindertouch all fire damage so it's pretty much slow resistance vs 33% chance of 394% lightning damage + some minor electrocute damage.

>>16360222

>Skill add reduction target damage and its overleveled a little because Eternal Band ring.

It literally does nothing past 22, that's hard cap so you're wasting 4 skill points.

Also I'm not sure if Haven is worth the point investment? Seems like a hefty price to pay 9 points for 20% health and 15% increased healing.

I guess the build doesn't require that many points but maybe something like Judgement + Crushing Verdict would be a nice QoL skill that also improves crits a bit.

>>16360271

>I already have insane damage so question only is survival.

I squeezed some more OA and crit out of your devotion setup, but that's probably not what you want to hear if this is the case.

I just find Sailor's Guide and Solemn Watcher to be kind of bad.

You could do this same setup with Watcher instead of Panther but remove the last point from Oklaine's Lantern which only grants 5% AS.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2E5Rpj2

>>16360222

>>16360247

The green kymon sword, 10% extra weapon damage is a lot.

You could change your pants to arcane harmony pants for better disruption protection. The resist reduction on the ring doesn't stack with hand of ultos or viper and neither of those stack with each other.

You have basically no slow resist and really low attack speed since your gloves have none on them.

>>16360327

> arcane harmony pants for better disruption protection

Its only gives it on proc and doest give me any phys resist or Defence bonus. Ideal pants would be green ones from Nemesis but its pain in a ass to find them or to dangerous to farm crucible before my build complete because its a HC.

>The resist reduction on the ring doesn't stack with hand of ultos or viper and neither of those stack with each other.

You half wrong - its different reduction. one of them is a overal resists reduction, another one is a elemental and it defiantly stuck because i can see damage numbers grow after this skill proc on minibosses who have to be immune to Lightning/Fire damage.

>no slow resist

This issue under work.

>>16360357

Arcane harmony pants are 100% protection all the time.

The ring doesn't stack and even if it did, 10% multiplicative isn't worth it when you could be using something like lifegiver for more life steal or a green for better resists or combustion band for more attack speed or kelphat'zoth for more flat lightning damage.

Trying to figure out how do spend my devotions, been bouncing between the idea of Tree of Life and Chariot of the Dead for a while.

I feel like ToL is better if I can get more OA from my gear but 2400 is on the lower end, making it hard to crit bosses.

Chariot

>150 DA, 100 OA and 8% crit damage

>Armor and DA heal proc with worse uptime

<Adjusted attribute points and put more in physique

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAlrDw2

vs

Tree

>1k HP and ~300 health regen

>Regeneration proc with better uptime

<Adjusted attribute points and put more in cunning

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXoEYPZ

I could also adjust the Chariot build to be tankier:

>50 less OA, 5% less crit damage and 20% less shield damage blocked

>900 more health, 2% extra phys resistance and 50 more DA

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYMg14N

They should let players know what mutators they get beforehand. Too bad I am too lazy to go on forum and suggest that.

>>16359943

Dynasty Warriors x Diablo, plus troop control.