f5d659 No.16325444
https://archive.fo/3AxiK
Just when you thought that them demanding Japanese video game studios to include easy mode in every releases they're gonna put out of the market right after Sekiro is the end of it. You're wrong.
941c9b No.16325451
Does copypasting shitty journalists from the GG thread really deserve its own? What the fuck is the point of the GG thread if you're just gonna make this its own thread?
660563 No.16325462
3ed22d No.16325671
Anon you need to stop thinking twatter matters.
0f117e No.16325743
>>16325444
Didn't even knew the game was hard, some autist got the world record in a day, 40 something minutes it took him and the game didn't even look half as intense as ninja gaiden black or even fucking nioh.
4bad4b No.16325812
>>16325711
> quadriplegic
> using hands
what?
a281f9 No.16325821
>>16325812
Quadriplegia isn't limited to just losing all motor function in your arms and legs.
4fb247 No.16325867
>tfw really want to play a 3D ninja game
>both Nioh and Sekiro are too much for my BEEFY RIG
Is there nothing on PC? I've already played Nightshade and Shinobi to death, and the only other game I can think of is Ninja Blade which I have no idea how it is.
aadac2 No.16325869
>>16325444
What is Insekiros supposed to mean? Some combination of insecure and Sekiro? I can't see what else it could mean, but that doesn't sound right.
13dd35 No.16325873
More like Cuckiro: Shadows Fucked Wife you fucking muppet
424266 No.16325874
>>16325867
>I want a 3D ninja game
Metal Gear Rising Revengance
Shadow Tactics: Blade of the shogun
Ninja Gaiden BLACK lmao emulators never ever or alternatively Ninja Gaiden SIGMA if you want a comparable experience.
DEAD OR ALIVE :^)
042e76 No.16325880
Who gives a fuck if some shitter plays on easy? This is just a thinly veiled iteration of the mentally frail whinging about casual mockery on the internet.
bbb342 No.16325881
>>16325828
An unintended analogy of the state of vidya journalism?
df7401 No.16325883
>>16325869
Either insecure or incel, you never know with the soy types
c1180d No.16325884
>>16325869
That's pretty much it, the retard thinks if you don't want games dumbed down to Journalist difficulty you are "insecure".
4fb247 No.16325888
>>16325874
Shadow tactics was neat.
Revengence I've never really felt like a ninja or samurai, besides playing Sam.
c6d246 No.16325890
Why are people so asshurt that people are mocking this guy here?
c34912 No.16325902
>>16325880
your daily reminder that a lot of developers do
its why games noticeably became more casualized after the last gen.
blackpill is in full effect anyway, most gaming now is seriously shit and its starting to seem like more normalfags are opening to it.
872f1f No.16325917
>>16325444
>just because i'm shit at football doesn't mean i shouldn't be allowed to play professional football you're just insecure if you think that
aadac2 No.16325927
>>16325917
>just because I'm illiterate doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to read war and peace, you're just insecure if you think that
>just because I'm obese doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to win a marathon in my car, you're just insecure if you think that
>just because I'm short, ugly, can't cook, and have an unbearable personality doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to date rich 6'2" chads with 10" dicks, you're just insecure if you think that
000000 No.16325940
>>16325444
>calls non-journos insecure
Found the journo that literally cries in the bathroom because of his own insecurities.
9338f5 No.16325974
43561b No.16325978
Incidentally, inseki is fake incest (step-cest and the like).
866ef2 No.16325981
>>16325451
So that anon don't have to dive in the cesspit that the gaymergay thread is.
f3b606 No.16326005
… I don’t get the word play
72dbb8 No.16326033
Every time some adult journalist complains about how hard this game I already completed on NG+ is makes my balls increase in size.
e934e7 No.16326048
>>16325444
>Inseki
Isn't that Japanese for incest?
2d3588 No.16326062
>>16326048
For the fake kind
cd96b4 No.16326083
>>16325444
>insekiros
Is he trying to say "insects"? Yeah well he's a niggerfaggot who should go back to the kitchen and inject more soy up his dickhole, the cunt.
312ab3 No.16326088
Adding an easy mode won't make the game any less tedious.
bdc9c0 No.16326092
>>16326088
It has an issue where the opening is pretty slow and clunky, then it picks up early mid game and stays good until the endgame
977c63 No.16326104
To be honest Sekiro is arguably far harder in the beginning when you are getting used to the combat system with low health. By the time you get to Ashina Castle, you can get a shitload of Gourd Seeds, Prayer Beads, and get that skill that gives you health upon a successful Deathblow. The game becomes way too easy after that point.
They just don't want to have to deal with challenges. Good on the Japanese devs.
7c5811 No.16326107
>>16325970
yeah sure, lets roll
269bc1 No.16326112
>>16326083
Pretty sure it's a very awkward pun on "insecure". They seem pretty fond of equating challenge in gaming with the big car = small dick meme.
Doesn't mean Sekiro is any good though.
cd96b4 No.16326138
>>16326112
>insecure
If that's what he was going for, he failed pretty hard.
ec5e83 No.16326146
>>16326104
Outside of bosses maybe, and even then you keep coming up against individual enemies like those goddamn purple ninjas who will push your shit in. Of course, you can stealth or just run through almost anything but the bosses, just like any souls game.
No, the combat is hard as fuck, ESPECIALLY later in the game. Every boss and miniboss requires you to memorize their attack tells and timings in order to successfully parry, just being able to heal a couple more times doesn't change that.
887203 No.16326151
cd96b4 No.16326173
>>16326146
>enemies require that you learn their moves and timings
Yeah, but what's so hard about that? If you can learn the steps to a new dance beat, then you can learn how to time your parries against bosses. You don't even need especially tuned reflexes to be successful in combat, you just need to know what to expect, and respond accordingly, and you need to make sure you can get yourself out of dire situations (i.e. don't get surrounded by a group, try to take foes one on one, use stealth to your advantage, etc).
The people who complain that these games are too hard are shitters looking to stir the shit in the name of "taking dem ebul gamrs down a notch". This argument is rooted in ideas like "inclusivity" and "disabled people's rights" and "muh toxic community" which are retarded.
>muh inclusivity
No one is keeping you out, bitch. Either play the game as it was intended to be played, or get the fuck out. The only person saying, "hurr you can't do it" is yourself and the fags who shitpost you into oblivion that you take way too fucking seriously
>muh disabled people who can't play
Yeah, well, tough shit. The vast majority of people are able to play these games, even those with health debilitations like arthritis or multiple sclerosis or whatever. Who are these people that are incapable of playing the game? hell, you could probably train yourself to play with your fucking feet and prevail, in the event that you don't have any arms, by using some kind of gimmick.
>muh toxicity
This is probably the crux of the argument; there are "journalists" and other undesirables who take the git gud meme to heart, and feel like shit when people laugh at them for their inability or unwillingness to actually finish the game to completion, and so they've decided to embark upon a mission to uproot this kind of mentality from the fanbase. They know that since they can't change the way the majority of the playerbase thinks, they can still try and advocate for change by coming up with bullshit arguments that serve their agenda. What they fail to realize, is that this won't fucking work, because then the argument will shift from "we need an easy mode" to something like "we need to get rid of hard mode" because the people who shit all over them for not being able to finish the game will then begin to shit all over them for being unable to finish the game on hard, and the same "problem" will exist.
Ultimately, they want to ruin a franchise because they don't like the players who enjoy it.
>>16326159
Eh, that's marginally better, at least I get what it's trying to say now.
000000 No.16326182
>>16326146
Megaman. Anyone that wants to complain about Sekiro needs to beat the original Megaman first.
e84690 No.16326195
>>16326005
either related to insecurity or incels
1ad22d No.16326206
>>16326194
Well, if you insist.
9638a4 No.16326212
>>16326206
>two left hands
c35be8 No.16326229
>>16325444
>>16326112
>>16326138
It's projection. The journos feel so insecure about not being good at video games that they insist on including easy mode. If they weren't insecure about being bad at vidya then there would be no push for easy mode. Their target is people that enjoy challenge and no one is going to be insecure about being good at something or desiring to get better at it.
With such blatant projection it unironically becomes a self-own.
cc34ff No.16326234
1de34b No.16326239
72dbb8 No.16326245
>>16326229
Their very existence is unjustified, they should feel insecure. If you suck at games you can't and shouldn't be writing about them. If someone can't drive they should not be reviewing that honda I have my eyes on.
9237a1 No.16326248
>>16325444
the thing is i can see sekiro getting an easy mode because of actvision
9237a1 No.16326252
>>16326245
in the event video there is a tweet of a journalist saying
>playing a game is worst part of the job
so you can get a glimpse of the mentalitty of this people.
db7862 No.16326261
Used to be, people who attempted to forced easy mode into games against the designers express desire, were called cheaters.
275d05 No.16326275
>>16326252
>job is (or at least used to be) playing vidya, now just paid by old media for the sole purpose of destroying their competition
>all taken by people who hate vidya
There truly is no justice in this world
4f6639 No.16326277
What needs to happen is that devs need to start including "easy" mode in every game, only that mode is actually hard mode just labeled as easy. That way when these retard journos go straight to easy and still get their shit pushed in people can mock them even harder for dying on easy mode. Although I guess they still probably can't complete most games on true easy mode so maybe it isn't necessary.
e8fec7 No.16326280
INSEKI IS SHIT
GO ALL THE WAY OR DONT
db7862 No.16326285
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16326112
>Pretty sure it's a very awkward pun on "insecure".
I thought he was going for a pun on "incel", as in - "Hey nerds, get out of your basement and go fuck girls like a normal person instead of spending all your time "gittin gud" at loser videogames."
Basically, he's saying that important adults like him don't have time to be proficient at their hobbies and so the game needs an easy mode so that everybody can get their gold star no matter how retarded they are. This was the same generation of kids which were part of the test-bed for the self-esteem movement that tried to abolish the concept of winners and losers… except they failed to realize that when everybody is a winner (and those who show natural talent are suppressed to not hurt the feelings of those untalented), then the concept loses all meaning, and everybody becomes losers.
So when a game comes along that holds up a bar of proficiency that you must pass in order to advance, they can't deal with it.
269bc1 No.16326287
>>16326285
It makes sense too, but the tweet is specifically saying "people who insist thatg someone else playing a game on easy diminishes their own experience of playing on hard". Certainly seems like he's accusing of insecurity to me.
46ea00 No.16326289
275d05 No.16326324
>>16325880
This is true, but there actually is a reason to be wary of easy modes being added: Audience replacement.
Look back at when FPSs added auto-aim for consoles, or party/squad games added automation of teammates, or RPGs gradually morphed via ARPGs into dumbed down shooters/hack-n-slash button mashers. Features like these start optional, but they attract a new dumb audience (or encourage borderline members of the old audience to indulge their worst habits) that outvote the old audience with their wallets, subsidizing the distruction of a series or genre.
As the easy mode becomes more central to the devteam's thoughts, and imposes more demands on the process of the series' design and balance during development, the more elaborate and granular normal"hard" mode becomes more and more tempting to discard. Worse, complaints from growing hoards of casuals, insulted that they play on casual mode constantly tempt devs to bump the difficulty of each mode down.
>>16326277
Better yet, just unlock cutscene theater from the start of the game as Youtuber Mode and have it secretly be different from the actual game, like how old Interplay games that stored their plot in a paper book as snippets at jumbled page numbers as DRM, included misleading red herring snippets to discourage peeking.
196fa0 No.16326387
>>16326324
>2nd webm
Is that complaining british douche ever on point on anything? To me it seems that he's just bitching just for the sake of bitching and has zero information value and doesn't have much comedic value either. unrelated image
82fb43 No.16326395
>make the game easier! I can't beat it
<fuck off
>but disabled people :^(
82fb43 No.16326400
>>16325880
they've trying to make the inclusion of an easy mode a moral obligation because "muh gatekeeping, muh exclusionary gamer culture :^(", and now they've roped disabled people into the argument because they have no shame.
8e6d35 No.16326404
cdbbe1 No.16326405
db7862 No.16326409
>>16326395
>>but disabled people :^(
The argument does hold some weight, in that games should be accessible to whoever wants to play - and the analogy to having handicapped ramps in public spaces I've heard is apt. However, it's a lost point since there's already lots of accessibility options in tech that allow handicapped people to join in. You could complain that those solutions are insufficient, and advocate for better options to be made available.
It's one thing to go into a restaurant and ask that they put in handicapped restrooms. It's another thing to go into a restaurant that specializes in steak, and then flip your fucking lid and demand the menu be changed because they don't serve chicken nuggets. Or maybe more aptly, you don't go into a book store and demand they carry movies so that the illiterate can join in.
Easy Mode is not analogous to handicapped ramps. Pic related is.
bc6ea3 No.16326411
>>16325444
>games are art journo's demanding art cater to their whim
Fuck I hate game journalism, this shit needs a solution, a permanent solution.
196fa0 No.16326416
>>16326411
>a permanent solution.
cdbbe1 No.16326417
>>16326409
It is not a fucking apt comparison at all faggot. Video games are fucking toys and entertainment, no where near to being as essential as having public spaces being accessible.
82fb43 No.16326419
>>16326409
>games should be accessible to whoever wants to play
Why? I feel for them, but developers are under no moral obligation to include disabled people in their target audience. They're all small percentage of the population, and all of this shit eats into development time. When you're dealing with a company who aren't so big like From Software, I think it's understandable for them to focus all of their attention on making the experience of the core audience as good as it can possibly be. From's games have a tendency to come out less complete than they should be as is, and feature creep will only worsen that.
275d05 No.16326431
>>16326387
Yeah, he'll even offer compliments sometimes, and I usually agree with him. In that specific instance, however, he had been exclusively playing the console versions of Biowhore games, and had come to the mistaken conclusion that party members were genuinely supposed to be AI-controlled henchmen like in Diablo, rather than all of your party being equal tactical pawns to be micromanaged by pausing and giving orders regularly.
He had become exactly what EA wanted in the gradual transition (no multi-select, no overhead camera, camera locked, one attack per press, etc.) from BG to DA2.
>>16326409
Perhaps a better comparison would be, say, having visual in addition to auditory signals in sprinting or football, so the deaf can play, or putting symbols on flags for the colorblind, or eliminating flashing stadium lights for epileptics. That's reasonably practical, and doesn't distort the game too much. Attempting to adapt sprinting or football to blind or wheelchair bound players, for instance, would be unreasonable.
846aab No.16326438
>>16326182
Are you crazy? They'll probably start shitting on older games again, demanding remakes with an "Super Easy Mode" with unlimited lifes and paid weapon upgrades
Let's at least contain the mediocrity in the present.
db7862 No.16326458
>>16326431
Right, or to add to the book store comparison - asking that they carry a line of books (or at least order upon request) that in braille is reasonable, while asking for movies wouldn't be.
Since I apparently have to clarify as I either didn't explain the point properly enough, or people are just being fucking retarded, I'm not suggesting that game developers have to change a thing about their games. Only that the means of accessing them, such as controllers (or as you mentioned, options for non-intrusive aids like color blind mode), have a solution to allow people with disabilities to join in. Once they're in the door, they're held to the same standards of proficiency everyone else is by the design of the developers.
ba3e8f No.16326464
Why are they bitching now? Memekiro isn't even hard compared to other From games.
82fb43 No.16326470
>>16326458
The problem is that the conversation has moved beyond "this would be nice", to "if you don't do this you're a bad person", and I can't abide by that. The faggots are trying to strong-arm developers into making games the way they like them, and using the disabled as moral leverage.
fe61be No.16326473
>>16326464
It is far more challenging that Souls and Bloodborne at least.
ba3e8f No.16326482
>>16326473
Yeah, if you're a nigger who had to get his ass carried with builds and overleveling
4e963a No.16326488
>>16325444 (Checked)
What a shitty play on words. All he has to do is practice the combat to get better, like any game. Maybe if faggots these days had an attention span, he'd take the time to get good. That's all beside the fact that these games are literally designed to be frustratingly difficult so that winning is actually satisfying. Maybe he should learn to code to make an easy mode mod.
8e6d35 No.16326495
>>16326488
Dude, get laid lmao.
8e6d35 No.16326510
>>16326503
Yeah really, pic related is me and my bitch >>16326495
196fa0 No.16326515
>>16326495
Is that John Romero in drag?
4e963a No.16326520
>>16326510
>3D
Get on my level
71efad No.16326540
I really wish they patched in an easy mode that ends at the castle gate. It boggles the mind how these folks will stand behind "Artistic integrity" when their favourite studio shits the bed but… then demand that very integrity be broken for the sake of people the game isn't made to appeal to.
38f07d No.16326541
0fdf45 No.16326545
ba6b20 No.16326551
>>16326482
Several people, including journos, people on twitter and on /v/ writing about the game have admitted to doing exactly that, yes.
815974 No.16326555
>>16325451
welcome to /v/ where we keep up a containment board which contains nothing and spills constantly with shitty low effort threads of shitty clickbait articles for cheap (You)s
>>16325970
oy such anti-semitism goy, stop larping!
196fa0 No.16326568
>>16326540
>Easy mode, in which:
>You don't stagger from attacks
>Take 1/5 of the damage
>Deal double the damage to enemy health, but not poise.
>All enemies and bosses stagger from attack, always, no exceptions.
>Can't meet important NPCS, like the Tengu, Isshin, Black Badger, etc.
>The Old Maid doesn't give you the bell to access Hirata Estate. Instead she just says that you're not a real ninja and her blind son says that you have dishonored all of Ashina and commits sudoku.
>No important optional items can be acquired like the Ashina Style
>Can't explore beyond ashina castle.
>Castle Reservoir is locked out
>Castle Dungeon is locked out
>Serpent Shrine is locked out
>Play all the way up to the first Genichiro encounter in the castle
>Can't explore any further. All other areas are locked and cannot be accessed.
>Game ends with a "fuck you"-ending and everyone dies of dragonrot.
4cf0a4 No.16326581
71efad No.16326587
>>16326568
>End card: In the end, he was too weak by far.
Or similar. Fuck it, bring back easy-mode-mockery. They want it? They can have it and watch it kick them in their low-test balls.
b2b67a No.16326590
>>16326540
Touhou does this. If you play on easy modo the game cuts off just before the final stage and gives you a bad ending.
0d39c4 No.16326608
>>16325444
>Inseki
Dan Stapleton supports wincest
3a998e No.16326626
>>16326590
Some, not all. Mountain of Faith let you fight Kanako but it made the fight harder than normal.
3a998e No.16326634
11463f No.16326640
>fucking retard complains that a game built around reflaxes, hitframes, boss battles and trial and error is too hard and should be made easier because he is too disabled to enjoy the fun along side the human beings
>"if you don't want to deprive the game of its inherent features you are insecure"
What a specimen. Minecraft without building mechanics when? Oh wait, this "partecipation medal" manchild is never going to complain about minecraft because the game doesn't require failing.
3d64a4 No.16326669
>>16325970
Your move, insekibros
65c006 No.16326677
>>16325970
Oy Vey Work Roll!
2de5cb No.16326728
>>16325970
(((Mark's))) (((benefactor))) reporting in.
9ee73d No.16326839
There are likely intellectual and well thought out reasons for why the Souls games having an easy mode would diminish the experience, but I'd rather just stick it to normalfags and casuals for being dirty casuals.
fa3d2d No.16326849
>>16326409
>in that games should be accessible to whoever wants to play
No they shouldn't.
640ffa No.16326862
ca53e5 No.16326888
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>>16326695
That Kuro is fine too.
e52536 No.16326937
22d826 No.16326940
>>16325970
Rolling for Israel
ba7083 No.16326941
4b25e9 No.16326956
>>16325970
Keep on rollin' bbe
a47cc6 No.16326969
Okay, if they demand an easy mode, can I demand a mode that rids a game of niggers and faggots? Since integrity doesn’t matter
492fea No.16326973
You make an easy mode that is an glorified tutorial.
>No more than a third of the full game is available.
>Disneyfy the story in a condescending manner.
>No voice acting at all, just text.
>Make required mechanics stupidly easy to the point that you have to unlearn it first to play the regular difficulty.
>Overpowered weapons, overpowered armor.
>No upgrading of anything.
>Healing items out the ass.
>Checkpoints littered every six feet.
>No bosses at all, just regular enemies scaled up in size with slightly higher health.
>QTEs, QTEs everywhere.
>No actual NG+ in easy mode, it sends you to the regular difficulty with a new character.
Make it obvious that the idiot never played the actual game. When they complain about the length, they get roasted. When they complain about the uninspired bosses, they get roasted. When they complain about anything that is only in easy mode, they get roasted. And make it very clear that the easy mode is not the correct way to play the game, that it isn't the same game experience in the slightest. That it will ruin your own experience to lower the bar instead of rising up to it.
fb32b3 No.16326986
>>16325970
rolling for gold
b2924b No.16326995
>>16325869
>>16325884
so is the Insekiro thing a label he's applying to himself? Sekiro's difficulty makes him feel insecure so he needs to cry and attention whore about it?
82fb43 No.16326996
>>16326839
It would depopulate multiplayer by splitting it into two pools. Mostly, I just don't want these people to be happy though.
818efb No.16327003
>>16325711
It's fucking insane, people who are disabled always play games espicially well, like that one chicken arm mother fucker who played and destroyed in Caw o' Duty, that one armless nigga who played Street Fighter with his face and teeth, and now we got this.
Pretty inspiring, not gonna lie.
ace3fb No.16327006
>>16326996
It'd probably help if Sekiro didn't have such a massive marketing push behind it. The game's really mediocre, and for some reason people act like it's the second coming of christ. So people who can't fucking play games but want to claim they do for "nerd chic" are obviously going to try to make up reasons on why they haven't played/beaten it.
>>16327003
BrolyLegs still plays. He had a sense of humor with a name like that when he had no arms or legs.
82fb43 No.16327013
>>16327006
This shit's been going on since Dark Souls one. The butthurt just gets louder and louder with each game. Journalists are bitches who resent having to do their job, and a bunch of them are ideologically invested in deconstructing the exclusionary nature of hard games.
ace3fb No.16327018
>>16327013
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the marketing push was much stronger with sekiro than the previous souls games. Probably because from knew it had basically no staying power as a game.
c3bfab No.16327020
eac849 No.16327031
82fb43 No.16327032
>>16327018
It's also published by Activision.
ace3fb No.16327034
>>16327032
That certainly helped. But Sekiro as a game needs that initial sales boost to start with because the game has absolutely no replay value. Shit I wouldn't be surprised if these articles were pushed for by activision to try to drum up additional "HARDCORES ONLY" sales.
2a3dda No.16327054
>>16326995
Go tell him on Tweeter
b2b67a No.16327070
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>>16327063
KUROKO POST
KUROKO THREAD
0ac2bf No.16327179
>>16326540
Contra 4 did that, it stopped the game at stsge 6 and told you to go play normal.
af8e09 No.16327206
>>16325444
The game isn't even that hard, you just learn from your mistakes and adapt because you hate making errors. At the end, you become rewarded for memorizing patterns and using your head.
Removing that design just turns it into a thoughtless AAA cinematic game where you don't think at all.
af8e09 No.16327210
>>16325812
>>16327003
A lot of disabled people consider their disability a gift rather than an hindrance, there's a good reason why most reject prosthetic limbs.
196fa0 No.16327286
>>16327206
>But if you learn from your mistakes, adapt and learn patterns, that just means that the game is simon says.
9ee73d No.16327311
>>16327286
most modern action games are in fact simon says, you either commit to RNG chaos like Cuphead or traditional beat 'em ups, or you commit to predictable but memorizeable like DMC and Sekiro
196fa0 No.16327365
>>16327311
tbh. I liked Sekiro well enough, it was just way too short. It's just funny how all these "hardcore souls gamerz" are coming out of the woodwork and being assmad at Sekiro for not having iframe dodges.
2de5cb No.16327369
>>16327286
>wow, fucking boxing is a bunch of simon says bullshit
>your opponent swings at you and you're supposed to dodge it or you get hit
Controls are tied to specific buttons and the game expects you to press them to complete it, ergo, all games are games of Simon says.
772f6e No.16327379
>>16327003
For all of their physical injuries they're mentally and emotionally stronger.
This is why I despise journalists on a personal level. It's not just about videogames. They're denying the value of overcoming challenges.
49dfa3 No.16327380
be6135 No.16327388
>>16327380
Why are they so perfect?
a34a4e No.16327396
>>16327369
There's a difference between dodging out of the way of an attack when you see it coming and knowing when you have to dodge for the next five attacks because you memorized the pattern.
8d4e7d No.16327413
>when your single week of popularity fades out because its just a dark souls clone and nioh already exist so you shill the game via pretending the game is hard muh git gud in front of literal causal people who just happen to play video games people talk about, like every soulborne trash, to stay relevant.
93ae97 No.16327435
>make easy mode
>constantly belittle the player for it and change the story to fit
>name the difficulty 'failed game journalist' and change all enemies to lines of code
>add a pink ribbon to their arm like Ninja Gaiden so everyone knows they're weenies
>have the final boss laugh at them
bc15f9 No.16327452
>>16327435
>easy difficulty is called "Journalist Mode"
>laughing track every time they fuck up
>dialogue and cutscenes changed so every character mocks them
>protagonist wears humiliating costume and chastity belt
I wish I had a few hundred million dollars to finance such a game. The apoplectic butthurt would make it all worth it.
23cc1d No.16327455
>>16327286
Sekiro feels like one of those full conversion Half Life mods I used to play, except someone is charging me 60 bucks for it and instead of Half Life they used Bloodborne.
It's a shame that Journos will either cry about the difficulty or suck it's dick because From has a big following now.
The "Simon says" meme is not fully literal but it's because Sekiro doesn't allow for much variation in the combat department, there seems to be only one right answer for each enemy state, if the enemy does a sweep attack jump and do an Enemy Step on him, if the enemy does a thrust attack do the fancy counter that you need to buy, for some reason, even though the game gives you a tutorial pop up for it when you meet your first lance enemy, even though you might not have it. Thanks From.
If the enemy is doing any other attack, deflect it, and while he's doing nothing spam R1 on him until he reacts.
Doing anything else is a waste of time, that is until you realized no one play tested the game while not using lock-on and you completely break the game by making the AI super predictable.
It also makes you notice the laughable amounts of tracking enemy attacks have now, it's not DS2 levels of bad but enemy attacks mid-air are pretty laughable.
Having only one weapon doesn't help, most Arts are useless as they have a huge recovery period, being the only good one the early game one where you close in on your enemy, they could have easily allowed you to carry more than just 1 Art for your katana by using directional inputs, but they did nothing of the sort.
the same tactic I used in my webm also works on Owl and many human bosses, just keep dodging to his right, only dodge to his left when he charges at you, he pretty much gets stuck in a loop and never does anything threatening.
tl;dr: every encounter feels the same besides some obvious exceptions thanks to the minimal combat options, the AI is broken, later areas are re-hashed off other recent From games.
I could go on.
At least exploring is nice for most areas.
805705 No.16327554
>>16327452
I want this to to happen in an actual game.
d7588f No.16327566
bfd570 No.16327591
>>16325444
The game isn't even that hard, if you have played the souls game have the mechanics of those can be transferred, and the ability to escape sticky situations with the grapple allows quick escapes real easy other then bosses.
0eb692 No.16327596
bbef66 No.16327598
>>16327566 (Überprüft)
Zertifiziertes Lachs?
68b4fe No.16327608
this shit gets annoying after awhile, instead of man up and put in a little elbow grease for something and rise to the challenge, they decided to bitch and whine like a 5 year old and until they get the toy they want from the store, soy is not enough to describe these pathetic sacks of shit
d366a8 No.16327619
952268 No.16327629
58b825 No.16327631
>>16326048
I need a source my nigger.
b08ecc No.16327643
>>16327631
Get past the sad panda, type the tag in and check what you get as results.
ff48e1 No.16327644
>>16326503
Watch his eyes track from left to right as he talks. Why not just post the essay that he's reading instead of reading it in front of a camera?
cf646a No.16332608
>>16325970
Jew me up, cap'n.
648230 No.16334723
Fuck the journos, Sekiro thread.
Take a look at this fuckin guy and tell me he's not prepared.
b2b67a No.16334735
>>16334723
What the fuck was the deal with that guy? He showed up, took you somewhere and then died
135fe8 No.16334736
>>16334723
>takes 5 steps
<collapses
ecff27 No.16334874
>>16325884
>journalist difficulty
Mmmm, this gives me ideas.
934a6c No.16334906
>>16325970
I too, shall become the jew
48b5b5 No.16335167
cb195e No.16335168
7ca442 No.16339345
Fuck what this guy says, how would you make Sekiro harder?
>Minibosses can call in reinforcements
>Enemies can use a cancel during their combos to instantly start a new attack string or move away
>Randomized stealthing Rats/Nightjar/Monkeys
>Dragonrot causes all the enemies in an area to become infested, and all the minibosses respawn with new infested attacks. Killing them is the only way to get Dragon Drops
5996f2 No.16339389
>>16325970
Could use a new name on my SS13 lawyer/doctor
252bec No.16339392
>>16326229
>People who rely on an industry to make a living want to do something to make their job easier and get more potential readers.
Yes they're shit at games but use some logic retard. These people want more influence and more cash, being as inclusive as possible gives it to them
>Sekiro is a good game
lol no. It's a glorified PS2 game with endless problems. It can't decide if it wants to be stealth or action and fails at both because of it. Sekiro is to Tenchu what Uncharted is to Tomb Raider 3. Visually better, but inferior in every other way with much better hardware and experience. It's Triple A western at it's core and making the damage high doesn't change that. Unless you think enemies should have awful AI, know where you are if you're ever spotted and try to hide else where or you think Dark souls 2 hitboxes are good.
424266 No.16339403
>>16339345
>your katana has more moves, delaying your swings allows you to breath a new moveset of moves and all your sword arts are now baked in some of the moves and also movement-based too
>shuriken has it's own dedicated button
>you can taunt
>you also have a style meter
>you have your own devil trigger
>enemies can devil trigger
>even the boss can too
:^)
1ec91b No.16339494
>>16339392
>Sekiro
>Tenchu
Nigger what?
424f04 No.16339587
>>16326495
>pic before mom leaves her son with his dad and goes coalburning
4c5452 No.16339599
e4cff9 No.16339611
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>meanwhile a paraplegic can play the game just fine
Game journalists are basically subhuman in the true sense of the word.
f3b606 No.16339642
>>16339611
more than likely they are just useful idiots who were placed in our hobby to subvert it.
03c9e4 No.16339648
ac4ef7 No.16339650
>>16325970
What was the original third zero? Also rollan
e5d167 No.16339668
>>16339611
holy fuck this game looks boring
144488 No.16339683
>>16326285
Yeah, I'm a fucking loser and I accept it
e4cff9 No.16339698
>>16339668
I quite like it, but then again I liked the Surge and Lords of the Fallen too (for what they were). I'm an unashamed sucker for the Souls formula.
ab75d1 No.16339883
>>16339668
You look boring.
4dfed6 No.16341044
>>16339403
In favour of Vergil Hayabusa over here for maximum Ninja fun.
ace3fb No.16341763
>>16339668
Well it doesn't just look boring. The game's formula doesn't give you enough change throughout the entire game, like if you play an hour, you've pretty much played the entire game. That and the combat doesn't really give you much choice in anything you do meaning it's worse to play than it is to look at.
af8e09 No.16341779
>>16326409
>accessible to whoever wants to play
better omit visuals, blind people wouldn't be able to play the game
5cb7b5 No.16341784
Who cares. Nobody likes these people, not even themselves.
f7397a No.16341787
>>16341784
tons of people, mainly because you can see journos and the industry trying to force casualization by calling it accessibility.
5cb7b5 No.16341799
>esoteric inclusionary garbage
Makes me hope for a game so deep and obscure that even I won't be there male sense of it.
ace3fb No.16341802
5cb7b5 No.16341819
>>16341802
Never been better. Bought a bunch of discount booze from a failed brewery. Good guys. Bad beer.
1ec91b No.16342256
>>16341763
Bullshit, mein nigger.
The game is backed by at least 4 styles of playing (shinobi + mechanical weapon + ashina samurai + senpou style, and upgrades of the above).
ace3fb No.16342310
>>16342256
You mean one playstyle, and then upgrade trees that have such a minimal impact on your actual damage (there's 3 exceptions) and kill rate why bother, one choice of combat art, and a massively limited prosthetic. You don't get a choice in how you play, because the options you do get are so limited you're going to fall back to the parry dance unless you're actually retarded and think "I want fights to take 20 times as long". There's a reason NG+ sucks, it's because fighting does not change from the start to the end, it's only different patterns of parrying and doing your one fucking combo.
1ec91b No.16342338
>>16342310
You are the same bullshit nigger I argue with the last thread, and nope, deflecting doesn't make the game any longer.
In fact, the fastest way to kill the general is to spamming loaded axe into it.
Even now, people are finding new ways to play (senpou high kick) while you are sticking to parrying only.
1ec91b No.16342340
>>16342338
>dodging* doesn't make the game any longer.
ace3fb No.16342363
>>16342338
>NEW SLOWER WAYS TO PLAY
damn I wish I could be so cool to purposefully try to prolong a game that's about as fun and exciting as getting teeth pulled, then desperately try to defend it on a mongolian basket weaving forum.
1ec91b No.16342370
>>16342363
Then don't play it anymore?
Nobody gives a shit, Sekiro is a game about experimentation.
And nobody tries to prolong the game since people are getting better and better.
ace3fb No.16342373
>>16342370
It's a game about experimentation, which is why the game tells you flat out the best way to play, except when it randomly adds new properties to tools but only against a single boss that you fight twice because they couldn't even be assed to make a full roster of unique bosses. I think that's the worst defense of the game I've ever seen, and you should feel ashamed. I've seen people on reddit defend this shit with more finesse than whatever shit you just pulled out.
532ab7 No.16342379
>>16342338
>You are the same bullshit nigger I argue with the last thread
You mean half the people in the last thread?
Say what you want but it is almost always more efficient to just deflect and get a few hits in, rinse repeat.
1ec91b No.16342380
>>16342373
Excuse me but where does the game say you should deflect and deflect only?
> except when it randomly adds new properties to tools but only against a single boss that you fight twice because they couldn't even be assed to make a full roster of unique bosses.
LOL Sekiro has more unique and interactive bosses that ANY games released in 2019 so far, including DMC5.
The monkey boss is pure genuine on how many ways to beat it.
ace3fb No.16342384
>>16342380
Is english your first language.
1ec91b No.16342385
>>16342379
I remember only one nigger.
And it is actually most efficient to just facetank and spam axe. The axe destroys posture harder than even Ichimonji hits.
1ec91b No.16342387
ace3fb No.16342390
>>16342387
I can tell, your english is worse than my spanish, and I sound like peggy hill.
1ec91b No.16342392
>>16342390
Not an argument, senor.
1ec91b No.16342398
>>16342385
And actually, the most efficient way is stealth.
532ab7 No.16342400
>>16342385
>face tank.
Yea maybe at the end of the game or NG+. I'm talking about the first run of the game when you have low hp and can't tank more than 2-3 hits. The core combat is designed around deflecting, simple as that.
ace3fb No.16342401
>>16342392
I know it isn't. I'm just saying try to learn the language before trying to muster the worst defense of a game I've ever seen. Are you the same english as a fifth language retard who was saying that sekiro is the best game ever because you can set enemies on fire?
1ec91b No.16342406
>>16342400
I'm playing the first run and the moment I realize facetanking the general destroys them the quickest, I realize how good Sekiro is.
And 2-3 good hits with upgraded axe is gonna end deathblow a general.
>The core combat is designed around deflecting, simple as that.
Deflecting helps, but it's not the end all, be all.
1ec91b No.16342408
>>16342401
I didn't say Sekiro is the best game ever because you can set enemy on fire.
I ask a simple question if you can set DMCV enemies on fire like the way you do in Sekiro.
Nope, you can't.
fa63f1 No.16342409
Until barely yesterday, I was never really interested in this game at all in the slightest. Saw a couple of gameplay vids to finally see what all the fuss was about. The gameplay controls over your character seems kinda wonky and the animations looked really jerky at times, but it seems like an ok decent game overall.
But basically, what is the plot about this game all about? Rescuing that super girly shota?
1ec91b No.16342414
>>16342409
Yeah, that's the gist of it.
I don't know who points it out, but it's really, really inspired by Blade of the Immortal, even has the immortal worms thing.
ace3fb No.16342415
>>16342408
I'm a little relieved that there's only one dipshit as dumb as you. Anyway carry on posting just blatant lies.
>>16342409
Only the first part, you rescue him like 2 hours in, and then the rest of the game is gathering mcguffin segments to make an incense so you can summon a rope golem to climb a mountain to get a tear so you can then murder the shota and cause stop the dragonrot. Except then a boss you already fought twice shows up and you have to fight him again but this time he births someone from his asshole who can summon a spear, and then you either kill shota, kill yourself, or have the shota be unbirthed and "WE SHALL GO TO THE WEST TO THE BIRTHPLACE OF THE DRAGON IN SEKIRO:2 THE SEARCH FOR MORE MONEY"
532ab7 No.16342418
>>16342406
Are you the dude from the last thread that didn't understand that you NEED to deflect some hits? Like long range normal hits that aren't perilous. Ones you can't (and aren't supposed to) dodge through because you don't have invincibility frames. And also said Nioh combat is slow in comparison to Sekiro and compared the combat to Diablo?
ace3fb No.16342419
>>16342418
Ye he is, he was the.. did he hit 110 posts defending sekiro in broken english? or did he only get to 90
1ec91b No.16342422
>>16342418
>Are you the dude from the last thread that didn't understand that you NEED to deflect some hits?
You can safely escape through ANY hit, even with spear wielding enemy through jumping.
>And also said Nioh combat is slow in comparison to Sekiro and compared the combat to Diablo?
Same, for some reasons, Nioh looks really Diablo to me.
1ec91b No.16342423
>>16342415
>SEKIRO:2 THE SEARCH FOR MORE MONEY"
Man, I can see the butthurt about this.
I hope they make Sekiro 3 so you can be butthurt about it.
ace3fb No.16342430
>>16342423
We all know the pinnacle of storytelling is having shallow stale combat, and an unfinished story. Both things that greatly compliment the game's trashy taste.
532ab7 No.16342435
>>16342422
>You can safely escape through ANY hit, even with spear wielding enemy through jumping.
Wrong. Why must you lie? Spearmen and even sword enemies have swings that are too long to dodge out of. They aren't at ground level either so you can't just jump. You need to deflect. Im not talking about perilous attacks. I'm talking about their normal movesets.
1ec91b No.16342436
>>16342430
I don't know what the pinnacle of storytelling is, but Sekiro causes your butthurt and that's good enough for me.
ace3fb No.16342442
>>16342435
I honestly don't think he's played the game and activision just pays him 2 cents an hour to post. Because 90% of what he says is just flat out lies.
fa63f1 No.16342446
>>16342415
>anal births
>and unbirthing
1ec91b No.16342448
>>16342435
>Wrong. Why must you lie? Spearmen and even sword enemies have swings that are too long to dodge out of.
Why do you think I lie?
I have tested this extensive in my game, you can escape ANY enemy through a series of jumping.
Do you have proof of ANY wide attack that actively prevents you from escaping?
1ec91b No.16342449
>>16342446
It's butthurt my friend.
Severe butthurt.
4cb4a7 No.16342484
>>16342448
Oh, look, it's the (119) nigger. Hey nigger, are you paid to be here or what?
1ec91b No.16342531
>>16342484
I don't understand.
0f5ea8 No.16342550
>>16342531
This shit is why any attempt to compromise anonymity, even well-intentioned shit like "user IDs", is fucking retarded and poisonous.
Some guy posted 119 times in a thread, and ever since then, anyone who has the sack to hold forth on a point for more than like twenty posts is him. Meanwhile, people do that shit all the time on other imageboards, and no one cares, because you can't see them doing it.
If you've never racked up triple digits arguing in a thread, you're a pussy, and I stand by this.
f83d06 No.16342560
>>16342550
>Some guy posted 119 times in a thread, and ever since then, anyone who has the sack to hold forth on a point for more than like twenty posts is him.
He admits to being fire autist >>16342408
1ec91b No.16342566
>>16342560
I still don't understand.
Guess I'm just gonna keep playing Sekiro.
8a14e3 No.16342570
>>16342422
>You can safely escape through ANY hit, even with spear wielding enemy through jumping.
Wrong. Many thrusts have high hitboxes which punish you for attempting to jump them.
>>16342418
>you don't have invincibility frames
Yes you do, they're just extremely brief.
e648bd No.16342573
>>16342422
>You can safely escape through ANY hit, even with spear wielding enemy through jumping.
You can escape them but not necessarily safely and while you're jumping you're not doing damage.
>Nioh looks really Diablo to me.
The only thing Diablo about Nioh is the loot system. And William IS faster than Sekiro.
1ec91b No.16342604
>>16342573
>>16342570
>Wrong. Many thrusts have high hitboxes which punish you for attempting to jump them.
Nope, you can still escape them by jumping backwards. There is no "inescapable" thrust.
>>16342573
>You can escape them but not necessarily safely and while you're jumping you're not doing damage.
You can do both, it's risky but it has the same risk as parrying (or lesser because one jump can make escape multiple hits).
>The only thing Diablo about Nioh is the loot system. And William IS faster than Sekiro.
Doubt.jpg
e648bd No.16342612
>>16342604
You can jump and do damage at the same time but cannot jump, dodge, and do damage at the same time.
>There is no "inescapable" thrust.
I'm not talking about thrusts.
>Doubt.jpg
Are you an honest to god paid shill or are you just trying to angrily justify you purchase of this game? Because if it's the latter just stop. It isn't necessary. It's not even a bad game it's just overly finely tuned in the combat department. Particularly when it comes to some of the bosses.
1ec91b No.16342616
>>16342612
>You can jump and do damage at the same time but cannot jump, dodge, and do damage at the same time.
Yes, you can, it's called jumping on the goddamn enemy.
>I'm not talking about thrusts.
So what are you talking about? Slash has pure as shit AOE, you can just block them and sweep means you HAVE to jump.
>Are you an honest to god paid shill or are you just trying to angrily justify you purchase of this game?
I pirate it and I'm having a sweet time amigo.
I don't know why you are butthurt about it, but it makes me laff.
1ec91b No.16342618
>>16342616
>Slash has poor as shit AOE*
fa63f1 No.16342620
>>16342550
>If you've never racked up triple digits arguing in a thread, you're a pussy, and I stand by this.
Maybe if you're a retard who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "concise". If someone can't get their main points across in under 119 posts, that's not good arguing.
1ec91b No.16342624
>>16342620
LOL, on imageboard, nobody agrees on anything, even if it's plain truth.
e648bd No.16342641
>>16342616
>I don't know why you are butthurt about it, but it makes me laff.
Disagreeing with a demonstrable faggot does not equal butthurt.
0b6333 No.16342646
But ain't most of these journalists already bitching about FromSoft vidya either way?
I remember when Demon's Souls was a novelty and just there to be for that niche audience, and it was kinda fine being there, the same with Dark Souls and up to Bloodborne when normalfags tried it and did not get trough the first boss which is really easy.
Sekiro is pretty good design on a game and I don't see how an easy difficulty could even make the game fun, when the whole point of it is to go into a routine and use sneaking instead of just playing as if it's a cinematic game where easy mode is a must since the balance is uneven in those games for the most part.
9f05cd No.16342764
The Dark Souls 2 tier tracking, I can understand, to a degree, you have to bully your player into using the incredibly boring combat system they spent one drunken evening designing, and they REALLY want you to play it the exact way they intended. But why in the seven realms of holy fuck are the hitboxes also Dark Souls 2 tier? I mean, FROM only made five similar games in the past, there's no fucking way that they got the formula down by now. It's also pretty entertaining how normalfags picked up the git gud meme, only to use it to shield their game from any criticism. You think that a boss is badly designed and doesn't fit the game at all, regardless of difficulty like the Demon of Hatred or the schimchen warriors? Just like git gud.
532ab7 No.16342788
>>16342764
What? The hitboxes are fine. Sure the enemies don't fit with the rest of the game but there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the hitboxes.
9f05cd No.16342799
>>16342788
Nothing wrong with any of these.
532ab7 No.16342810
>>16342799
1 is justified since it was a bow.
2 and 3 are pretty bad.
4 looks like your feet were probably in range since it was his mortal blade instead of just a normal swing.
Seems like this is only a problem during perilous attacks that are meant to be countered a specific way though so it might actually be a case of bad tracking rather than bad hitboxes.
8a14e3 No.16342828
>>16342799
>jumping a projectile, albeit the tracking is bullshit
>jumping a thrust
>actual hitbox issue
>jumping on a huge frontal attack
What's with retards trying to jump everything?
9f05cd No.16342831
>>16342828
I don't know. What's with retards excusing bad hitboxes as "you're playing the game wrong"?
8a14e3 No.16342833
>>16342831
>game explicitly tells you to counter thrusts instead of dodging or jumping over them
>try and jump over them
>WOOOOOW BROKEN HITBOXES
9f05cd No.16342835
>>16342833
>enemy's weapon doesn't connect with your player model
>you take damage
>"should've just played the game right"
532ab7 No.16342841
>>16342835
Pretty sure it has something to do with the way perilous attacks work. Have any examples of normal hits doing that? I assume the way it works is something along the lines of, if you are within range of a perilous attack and you don't counter the intended way, deflect or block you are probably going to get hit. Some code fag needs to figure this out.
9f05cd No.16342856
>>16342841
I don't have actual videos, I'll try to look for some, but 99% of non-perilous overhead chop attacks have completely assblasted hitboxes. Stuff like the overhead chop the Drunkard minibosses have, Monk's close range jumping attack and his big overhead slam, the attack Isshin does when you're far away from him all of those have massive horizontal hitboxes and will hit you guaranteed if you somehow didn't slide under and behind the boss, the Spear general's attack where he runs the spear along the ground hits behind him and is massively oversized. Those are just ones I remember off the top of my head.
9f05cd No.16342863
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16342841
Literally the first five seconds of this fag's video for the Drunkard bullshit.
532ab7 No.16342869
>>16342863
Weird. Guess I just got lucky. Don't think I had anything like that happen. Although I mostly stuck to trying to deflect most boss attacks over sidestepping so I might have just not noticed.
2d3588 No.16342872
>>16342863
>>16342869
It isn't that big of a deal, i mean it happens and it's annoying but it's only major if yo insist in playing the game wrong, dodging and jumping too much
FS should've forced the player to parry in some other way though, one that feels fair.
8a14e3 No.16342874
>>16342863
That example is fucked sure but that's completely different to the issue of doing the wrong counter and then complaining the game punishes you for it.
9f05cd No.16342878
>>16342872
>>16342874
>enemy does an attack
>it doesn't connect with my player model, meaning I did avoid it
>i should still take damage because I didn't avoid it in the exact pre-determined way
I genuinely can't tell how anyone can think this is alright.
8a14e3 No.16342893
>>16342878
You keep trying to reduce it down to 'why is the game telling me how to play?' when perilous attacks are purposefully done so you can't react the same way to every attack. The game has much bigger issues than retarded niggers trying to jump over the wrong attacks.
5dda2e No.16342919
>>16342893
>bigger issues
Or the faggots who rely on parrying and this is an issue.
7b8ba5 No.16342937
>>16342863
>hitspark connects directly on the leg
>"wow I didn't get hit but died anyway"
absolute state of memesouls faggots
e80cf6 No.16343077
>>16342937
Sekiro is showing which players are DSP-tier and complain about "hitboxes" instead of not being garbage. It's GOTY on the salt it produces alone.
c65d64 No.16343314
>>16342419
His english is perfectly clear. You just cant be assed to argue with him
c4525d No.16343362
>>16343077
Still haven't completed it since I want to savor it on weekends, but I honestly haven't had a single hitbox issue myself. The game is pretty easy, and almost every death is because I made a mistake of judging enemy moves and forgot to hold block just in case since I don't block in soulsborne any more.
01e4a7 No.16343407
twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1115275130320629762
https://archive.fo/4lKa5
LOL
Use the direct link to see the results, archive doesn't work
e9be72 No.16343435
>>16325880
Because a truly challenging game requires good game design. You can't just staple on some different stats to bosses and be done with it.
They'll make games worse through their demands.
7b8ba5 No.16343471
>>16343362
I am sitting on it too for now. Gonna wait till all DLC is out and then play it.
d0e881 No.16343480
>>16325444
>Decent at the game
>Not that good at the rhythm game bullshit Sekiro tends towards but can parry reliably and memorize boss move patterns
>Still some bosses like underwater headless or Ghostpriest or Lady Butterfly who can just fuck off
>Figure out cheesestrats like spamming dodge-attack, spending 20+ minutes baiting out a specific attack then getting one hit in, firecracker/ash spam,etc
>Able to beat bosses despite not being fantastic at game
I honestly don't understand what happened to just 'overcome adversity' as a mindset in games. Even if you have to resort to bullshit tactics others will mock you for, so long as you use what the game provides to overcome what the game throws at you, that's the point of a game. How absolute trash must you be to simply turn on immortality or one-hit kills as non-game cheats? I mean unless you deliberately want to mod a game into something it isn't, then preface everything with "No I didn't beat Sekiro but I did beat a mod with Sekiro".
c4525d No.16343503
>>16343480
>underwater headless
Gotta be honest anon that was the easiest boss, just dodge the wave and go in, back off, repeat. Hilariously easy compared to the time-slowing ones. But I guess it being underwater can affect how you approach it.
d0e881 No.16343539
>>16342799
To be fair here, 1 is justified because that bow will fucking track you no matter what generally, and even at far ranges you have to do a quick sidestep or you get fucked. Being that close to the boss, he had like .3 seconds to get out of the path, and the jumping speed just doesn't take you far enough. In fact unless you're leaping over an unblockable sweep, jumping is just a bad idea in general.
2 is also justified because it is one of those unblockable bullshit moves. The game wants a specific input. If you do not give it that input, it punishes you. That's how the game works. If you are ANYWHERE near the enemy's forward cone when one of those attacks comes up and you don't give it the input it wants, you are going to get hit.
3 has no excuse, really. That's just a boss with retardedly massive hitboxes on his attack and being anywhere near his front means you're fucked.
4, again, is just 'do not jump ever'. It does no posture damage worth even mentioning unless you're leaping over a sweep and your hitbox in the air coupled with enemy tracking means you are going to get fucked.
d0e881 No.16343555
>>16343503
All the headless can fuck right off. The underwater one wasn't hard if you cheese it by doing exactly what you said; swim around it, bait out the wave, rush in and hit once or twice, fuck off. But that's what I meant by 'cheese', because it certainly doesn't feel like a proper fight when you use that method. If you try to get in and properly fight it, the underwater sweeps, homing attacks and general massive damage he inflicts coupled with terror make him a nightmare. I was just not able to react fast enough and position properly, so I resorted to the dodge-spam and hit and run, which made him a joke.
c4525d No.16343579
>>16343555
Trips are not wrong. I guess I thought of cheesing more like getting someone stuck in a corner, denying attacks or similar.
5d528b No.16343634
>>16343555
I wish you got more from them, they're not really exciting to fight and for your trouble of finding them you get a non-impressive item that chews into your emblems when the free versions drop commonly off enemies.
c4525d No.16343650
>>16343634
Can be damn good if you get the skill that keeps the effect going for longer, but for the effort and going back to try those fights many times since the first encounter I admit it's a bit of null drop.
d0e881 No.16343673
>>16343634
I wouldn't say 'commonly'. The candies are definitely on the skimpier side of droprates, while the emblems drop from fucking everything and since the prosthetic bar firecrackers is utterly worthless except in incredibly specific situations, you'll probably be running around with hundreds of them perpetually. Sacrificing 3 now and then rather than popping a candy is a pretty good trade, especially with the skill to extend item usage.
86a3f9 No.16343800
>>16343480
You have to understand that a game journalist's viewpoint is always going to be fundamentally different than a normal player because they got deadlines to meet, articles to write, clicks to get. When finishing the game is your fucking job and it's best if you do it as fast as you can, it's honestly understandable that having to overcome adversity could end up being more of a bullshit chore than fun.
Of course, a professional in this setting should still git gud to give a fair and accurate review, and it's weak shit to whine about how difficult it is instead. So I don't think it's an excuse, but it is something to consider.
5be1fb No.16343813
>>16343800
>let's make a job playing games and reviewing them so others can get a picture of what the games are like before buying them
>let's have deadlines so they have no time to git gud and experience all the games have to offer
Your post only shifts the blame anon, and journocucks still end up being useless because things like piracy and other consumers from which to hear opinions exist.
0ed2d7 No.16343843
>>16343800
I really wonder who's behind this post
d0e881 No.16343940
>>16343800
I do see what you're saying but that just means there's a fundamental flaw in that system entirely. If you are reviewing a movie, generally you are expected to be knowledgeable on the subject of movies. Your review is intended, usually, for the layman but you should have experience with cinematic themes and methods and whatnot, and you should be able to watch the movie in its entirety, several times if needed, to get a full picture of it before offering up the criticism and suggestions to the consumer base.
The equivalent in games would be demanding someone review a 90 minute movie while only watching 50 minutes of it, and on top of that, using reviewers who are not professionals. As well as a slew of other problems.
My biggest gripe is a pretty standard one honestly but 'opinion' is not 'review'. Most of these sites seem to take random assholes who are not experienced at the genre or with games in general, and ask their opinion of the product. That isn't what an objective review for the purpose of informing consumers should be. While the individual opinion and preference can factor in, you are there to talk about the main points, objective facts, so on, while giving context for the consumer to make an educated purchase or not. In no way shape or form is forcing someone not skilled at using a product to quickly interact with that product and then give their opinion of their time with that product a professional 'review'.
e07119 No.16343941
>pic 1, disabled gamer playing on hard
>pic 2, a walking simulator
>pic 3, kids beating the cup head tutorial
>pic 4, journos playing on easy
the summit is for those who earn it
b2b67a No.16343951
>>16343800
In the end you said it better yourself
>a professional in this setting should still git gud to give a fair and accurate review
I'm not about to forgive them because they made videogames their job the same way I wouldn't forgive a cashier if he accidentally charged me twice for the same item. As of right now the gaming journalism scene is a sham and I won't go soft on any of them for these kind of reasons. You made the first clickbait article about a big release? Good for you, but also fuck you if the article is bad.
e07119 No.16343974
>>16342799
if they were gonna use hit boxes instead of cinematic combat then the least you can expect is for them to use them right
the whole point of hit boxes is so that the game can be played more however the player wants, if you want to dodge you dodge, if you want to block you block, if the devs were so hellbent on forcing the player to play in a specific way they should have stuck with cinematic combat instead hit boxes
"you are playing the game wrong" is not an excuse, if the hit box does not coincide with the character model then it's a dev fuck up not a player fuck up
e07119 No.16344013
>>16343800
i'd take the opinion of someone who sucks, does not cheat and can't beat the game a millon times over the opinion of a fucking cheater any day
most games you don't even need to make it to the half before being able to make an acurate review
if you really need to see the ending soooooo badly to make a proper review you can go to youtube and find some speedrunner beating the whole game hitless, if you know the controls, understand the mechanics and know how the game plays, seeing the ending is only necesary to grade the story and level design of the later parts of the game
it pisses me off that these faggots do not realize that we aren't mocking them for being bad at vidya, not everyone can git gud, but at least don't try to lie to us about it, nor demand less dificulty cos you got butthurt, nor brag about winning by cheat
nobody would have cared if they just admited they weren't good enough to beat the game, but they just had to throw a bitchfit
c65d64 No.16344059
>>16343480
I dont even care if someone thinks the game is bullshit or chooses to mod their way to the game's ending. What I take issue with is that these people actually believe they're entitled to having a developper hear them out and get free reign to influence their creative process
c65d64 No.16344073
>>16344013
>it pisses me off that these faggots do not realize that we aren't mocking them for being bad at vidya
These are the same people you always see screaming at a wall writing elaborate putdowns directed at hypothetical incel gamers who abuse women online and wear MAGA hats. They just arent used to having someone actually talk back to them and give their own take on the situation and it's making them foam at the mouth with anger
99fdd7 No.16344092
Ultimately these people are only interested in taking gamers down a peg and patting themselves on the back for it, because everybody knows all gamers are dangerous sexist bullies and white supremacists. Ironically most of the people ive seen who argued against the inclusion of an easy mode have been extremely civil about this whole thing while easy mode faggots have spun out of control so bad they actually started bullying and ridiculing people themselves (see pic related >>16343083)
f3b606 No.16344127
>>16344092
>they cry out in pain as they hit you
Pretty common tactic
e07119 No.16344142
>>16344092
what kind of name should we hard mode defenders/easy mode detractors call ourselves to trigger leftards harder?
>elite supremasist
>hard mode supremasist
>chalenge supremasist
>skill supremasist
>got gud supremasist
>fast thumbs supremasist
>no cheat supremasist
we could also use "master race" but is alrready taken by the PC gamers
it'd be nice if all normalfags started calling themselves "something supremasist" just to trigger libshit journos
82fb43 No.16344148
>>16344092
They're drunk on ideology of inclusiveness. This is where all of that shit naturally ends. Flying into a wild rage over the existence of things that just aren't for everybody, and aren't aiming to be. A thing that simply knows it's target audience, and plays to their desires.
It's "exclusion", it's "elitism", it's "gatekeeping" and it's heresy, as far as they're concerned.
cfe3dd No.16344156
>>16344142
>supremasist
>chalenge
82fb43 No.16344169
>>16343800
I understand that, but that's why I would argue that everyone just stop reading these sites and allow games journalism to die. Games journalism is a relic of the days when you had to buy a magezine to learn about the new games. Oftentimes the reviews weren't as important as the pictures, the announcements, and the cheat codes. That's not a thing anymore, and it's becoming increasingly apparent that the games journalist's approach to video games is radically different than the approach of someone who plays video games for enjoyment (which should be just about everyone). So at this point you have to ask yourself, who is this all for? What worth do these opinions actually have, and why should anyone listen to them?
18f0a0 No.16344172
the thing is though is usually a difficulty setting never works
e07119 No.16344182
>>16344169
>Games journalism is a relic of the days when you had to buy a magezine to learn about the new games
i miss the days in wich gaming companies had their own marketing shill departament larping as journalism
Nintendo Power may have been a tinny little bit biased towards Nintendo but at least they didn't pretend to not be Nintendo shills
journos would get nearly as much shit as they get if they didn't pretend to be impartial
82fb43 No.16344188
>>16344182
UK Nintendo Official Magezine was great. Total shill material, with a lot of great quotes like "throw your PS2 away, Gamecube is all you need", but they knew how to make shit entertaining to young me.
82fb43 No.16344196
I can't find any scans of it, but at one point they had a column called Bobby Tokyo, where there fake Asian reporter would review things in borderline racist broken English. It was great.
6c866d No.16344234
>>16344182
Over the years they've developed a pretension of being "more" than just a place where people find out what a game company is churning out next.
82fb43 No.16344281
>that Jake Lloyd quote
Oh no.
2a1cff No.16344307
>>16344287
>That shirt.
What a faggot.
b69fa5 No.16344341
>>16344307
Looks like someone wants to take a little trip to flavortown.
2a1cff No.16344356
>>16344341
>That hair.
What a faggot.
82fb43 No.16344366
Bring back the Marios and Warios rating system.
5be1fb No.16344378
>>16344366
>it's mostly crap and it assumes you're a moron - which you're not, honestly
God damn do I want to be back in the times when something like that was considered a flaw in a game.
cfe3dd No.16344417
>>16344404
wew, that's brutal
b2b67a No.16344430
>>16344393
>This faggot again
82fb43 No.16344476
Now I remember why I was so negative about the WW announcement.
b69fa5 No.16344509
>>16344476
The promos for WW were incredibly unflattering.
82fb43 No.16344512
>>16344509
What the hell is that artwork? I guess they tried to trace over one of the low res images, and ended up with that alien monstrosity.
694f2e No.16344515
>>16344404
No fuck video game ads are best
82fb43 No.16344529
I loved it when they bullied the stupid kids who wrote in. Later on they started handing out awards to the worst letter they received each month. Those issues don't seem to be archived, which is a shame.
9f05cd No.16344538
>>16344529
>james gibson
>Perth
Fucking Aussies shitposting into the past.
82fb43 No.16344544
Future terrorist sighted.
4b4fad No.16344556
>>16344551
>fourth image
I actually remember jacking off to that ad when I was 12.
8f5d3f No.16344706
>>16326112
>>16325444
>>16326138
I put in about as much effort as he did to think of his witty insult.
3b5969 No.16344762
>>16344706
>Why are they called Insekir anon?
>Because they can't finish sekiro
I love it.
736a05 No.16344769
>>16344476
>but name one game Miyamoto has screwed up.
>wind waker damn near killed the franchise
20a5e7 No.16344771
The Glaring issue with Sekiro:
>First Boss: Rides a horse around to be fast, but is just a spear user you deflect and parry
>Second Boss: She jumps around a lot which you can counter with shurikens and summons illusions which is nice, but her moveset is just the ninjas from later otherwise, so you deflect and parry
>Third Boss: You Deflect and Parry a dude with a sword, but in his third phase you jump up in the air to deflect lightning
>Fourth Boss: hide and seek with 3 monkeys, the standout 'fight'
>Fifth Boss: Giant ape that leaps around like the giant and might seem like something neat, but in phase 2 pulls out a fucking sword and you deflect and parry
>Sixth Boss: The ape again but he has a sword from the start and summons 1 add, you kill the add then deflect and parry
>Seventh Boss: You fight a guy with a sword you deflect and parry
>Eighth Boss (optional bad end): You fight a woman with a sword you deflect and parry
>Ninth Boss (optional bad end): You fight a guy with a sword you deflect and parry
>Tenth Boss: Woman with spear you deflect and parry, has middle phase where you just zip around to stay in the air with the grapple till the phase ends. Thats it
>Eleventh Boss: A Static, unmoving Dragon with a Sword you jump to deflect lightning, is barely a boss
>Twelfth Boss: Demon bloodborne throwback. The second boss that isn't a dude with a sword you deflect and parry
>Thirteenth Boss: A guy with a sword you deflect and parry
>Fourteenth Boss: A guy with a sword you deflect and parry
There is a pattern here. Remember DS2 getting shit on for too many humanoid bosses? this has five non human fights and including the ones using swords like all the humanoids TWO that aren't. Two in the entire game.
82fb43 No.16344782
>>16344769
No it didn't. What are you talking about?
9ee73d No.16344808
>>16344771
wut
I don't know how you described is any different to how one would respond to attacks in DMC, let alone Bayo
it's all just memorizing timings for doing your dodge moves, in DMC you just Royal Guard everything anyways which is no different, except there aren't many attacks which outright force you to use something other than Royal Guard for once as opposed to Sekiro
Sounds like you have a more problem with how modern action games handle parrying in general, would you perhaps have preferred something more like the Ark-engine Ys games instead where there's no (massive focus on) i-frame moves but more on simply running around to avoid attacks?
20a5e7 No.16344833
>>16344808
No i have a problem with "Dude with sword" being an overwhelming amount of boss fights. Dark souls 2 had Dragons, Undead Angels, 3 on 1 fights against shield lobbing suits of armour, a endless stream of giant rats in a bomberman style criss cross arena full of pillars, a giant spider and more before dlc, not counting its equivalent of minibosses and it got so much shit for "just dudes in armour with a sword" as its boss line up when its far worse here. The games fun but no wonder speed runs are hitting like 60 minutes.
648230 No.16344846
>>16344833
speed runs and speed runners are gay.
69b8cb No.16344850
>>16344833
>No i have a problem with "Dude with sword" being an overwhelming amount of boss fights
Its a ninja game set in Sengoku era Japan
20a5e7 No.16344883
>>16344850
So is Nioh and you fight Youkai, Oni, Demon's, Ogres and all kinds of monsters to break it up. If they wanted pure historical fantasy why bother pulling another Cathedral of the Deep and build up this huge infested monk sideplot that ultimately means nothing?
I mean fuck "its a ninja game" and you have 3 jutsu, 2 are useful and all they do is make the game easier than it already is.
I just wanted more variety. Even Bloodborne has more variety and half that game is set in Yharnam.
f903f7 No.16344909
>journalists that constantly make allusions to a series for any sort of hard difficulty in games are shocked when the devs of said series make another game with the same hard difficulty
8ce922 No.16344927
>>16325978
possible freudian slip?
648230 No.16344947
>>16344883
>Even Bloodborne has more variety and half that game is set in Yharnam.
Maybe that's because it's set in Yharnam, a completely fictional setting.
af1669 No.16344957
>>16344909
How could they have known.
And it isn't like there will be loads more easier games coming out this year like
>Gears 5
>Rage 2
>Farcry New Dawn
>Wolfenstein: Young Blood
and new IP like The Outer Worlds for them to >point gun at enemy
>fire
>move forward
Over and over and over.
20a5e7 No.16344960
>>16344947
Fuck me i didn't know Grorious Nippon had miles long giant white Snakes and people turned into Red Eyed Ogres! Truly Two Nukes weren't enough!
f4ee33 No.16344961
>>16344947
Fuck off, retard.
ad491f No.16344969
>>16344404
>Frank Cifaldi
Oh no it's this faggot again
f7397a No.16344975
>>16344969
>Trying to take credit for SNK's work
What a cunt
82fb43 No.16345031
>>16344969
Is it the same guy? Why was he writing for a UK magezine?
ad491f No.16345054
>>16345031
I didn't check before because the name matched exactly, but it looks like it actually is.
b69fa5 No.16345075
>>16344969
That's not "accessible" that's basically a demo mode.
82fb43 No.16345090
>>16345054
He sure turned into a faggot.
b69fa5 No.16345101
>>16345090
The one hundred dollar question is was he always like this or is this just another example of cult brainwashing.
37d4ed No.16345156
>>16344366
>>16344404
Holy shit, these things are actually funny and entertaining, and don't read like some whiny faggot's blog. And on top of that they're even deriding the games for being too easy. I'd forgotten what it was like to see vidya journalism of this kind.
I want to go back.
a0c26a No.16345167
>>16344883
>So is Nioh and you fight Youkai, Oni, Demon's, Ogres and all kinds of monsters to break it up.
You also fight every type 1000 times each
a0c26a No.16345178
>>16344969
"Gatekeeping" doesnt mean shit anymore. If anything these people should be happy that Soulsborne games are so equalitarian: everybody has to experience the same struggles to make it through
b69fa5 No.16345185
>>16345167
An unfortunate but relatively minor flaw on Nioh's behalf. An unnecessary one too considering how many different kinds of youkai there are to choose from. Maybe Nioh2 will do a little bit better in that department.
82fb43 No.16345198
>>16345156
Yeah, and it's not even a shockingly good magezine, really. A lot of fanboy bias toward Nintendo products, but the fact that it's just talking about games from the perspective of people who like games, and trying to have some fun doing so puts it ahead of basically all games journalism that exists currently.
a57795 No.16345212
>calls himself 'Epic Name Bro' as a joke
>successfully builds brand as one of the most successful Dark Souls youtube channels
>life peaked when he is hired by dream company Fromsoft to work on official Dark Souls 2 guide
>success tapers off as more normalfag-friendly youtubers take his spotlight
>years later regrets his joke name, not becoming known under his real name to boost his status when he lived in Japan
>tries to rebrand, intro "What's up y'all Epic Name Bro here" becomes "What's up y'all, this is Marcus, also known as 'ENB'" becomes "What's up y'all this is Marcus"
>Deletes every video where mentioning his name, including his first two Dark Souls let's play and his Demon Souls let's play, leaving only his depressing final Dark Souls let's play when there was zero energy left
I stopped watching when he became depressing. Had nothing against him, but the last videos he did I thought were genuinely good and not depressing were that Ys let's play he did, when he was still trying to branch out from Dark Souls but was realizing he had no audience for anything else. But since then it's only been shit with his Fromsoft videos.
I've been feeling shit about life lately and was about to replay Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, checked his channel out to watch the old videos for nostalgia. Now I've found out they're vanished from the internet forever I'm glad this faggot's life peaked and feel good about his decline. The final indicator who give zero fucks about what his videos are apart from a way to build his brand - an already dead brand that gets a short, dwindling breath every couple years with a new Souls let's play and even that is going. I don't know if it's fatherhood that did this to him, but if it is I still think he's a piece of shit.
a57795 No.16345215
>>16345212
>successfully builds brand as one of the most successful Dark Souls youtube channels
fuck i'm retarded
b69fa5 No.16345226
>>16345211
You're going to upset Surgefag.
fa3d2d No.16345231
>>16345212
Wasn't this guy a literal cuck or was that the MH guide guy?
ace3fb No.16345233
>>16345231
That was the MH guy, he lives in a closet under the stairs so his wife's boyfriend doesn't have to see him.
a0c26a No.16345239
>>16345185
Nioh would have benefited a lot from scrapping most of the optional missions. I guess it was on me not to autistically try to do as much of the side content as possible but it really makes the game feel like its exhausting its bag of tricks much faster than it should, by the time the game threw its first tengu at me I was so sick of the generic red and blue onis I started systematically cheesing them with the giant bombs. The last thing I wanna do is go through a gauntlet of them in a boss fight before I can finally fight a brand new enemy type. I'm 100% okay with some amount of padding but you can be a little smarter with that shit
a57795 No.16345242
>>16345231
>>16345233
EpicNameBro is also a cuck of sorts. He racemixed with a Japanese woman, brought her and their halfbreed child over to America after like six months of stressful maneuvering through the immigration system while working on Dark Souls 2, then about a year later she leaves him with their child.
Again, I don't blame him for being depressing and hard to watch, but with this latest shit I am glad he is on the downturn.
a57795 No.16345248
>>16345242
>she leaves him with their child.
And by that I don't mean she left him their child, I mean she took the child with her. Sorry I am retarded right now.
fa3d2d No.16345252
>>16345233
Yeah my bad, I remember now, it was Gaijin Hunter, raises another mans daughter in a little side room/cuck shed while his wife lives with another man.
221fc3 No.16345273
>>16326973
>>16344969
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo%E2%80%99s-idiotic-trend-of-near-impossible-final-levels-in-the-mario-franchise.64811/
You dumb naive faggots, you're delusional if you think this is it.
Even if you put anything behind a hard mode or true ending, even if it's one single level or bonus boss, they will complain it exists and that the demand for challenge was satisfied at all.
"easy mode mockery" my ass, you're repeating this shit here?
Isn't that the "trope"?
limited list of possible easy-to-process algorithms allowed in existence that NPCs made a list of at tvtropes?
That's a "bad trope", all game journos will have to say is
>look!
>easy mode mockery!
>category gatekeeping, outdated, enables "git gud" toxicity, set to true!
>bad trope!
>bad developer!
>for (team=employed && apologycount<5 && charitydonation<2k) loop JournoListDiscord.ControversyBlitz(default), increment nb.articles"
>groupthink vulnerability detected, initiate more articles against bad trope to prevent existence in future media expressions
There have been many stories by western game developers in the tail end of the uncompromised 3d platforming age on ps2 that were told to take their "creative vision" and shove it in the hardest mode because focus testers, then the game is panned by users as too easy, too short, too shallow.
b69fa5 No.16345282
>>16326973
>>16345273
The funny thing is that this game already has an easy mode. You were playing it all along.
648230 No.16345363
>>16344960
>>16344961
Based on their mythology, go fuck yourself.
2d3588 No.16345663
>>16342878
I don't think it's alright, i think it's not such a big deal because it rarely happens, or maybe i've been just lucky
4dfed6 No.16346062
>>16345156
We can never go back. Fags polluted and destroyed everything while laughing it up and when the pillaging and raping ended because they couldn't find anything else to pillage and rape, they cry foul and shift the blame on their victims. Only a purge will put those unsympathetic AIDS monkeys in their place as the toilet cleaners they should have been from the start. And that goes double for a lot of the Soulsniggers that do Let's Plays and are so autistically bad at the games, they remind me of those dipsit students that parrot their notes and never learn anything bt ace every test because their short-term memory works wonders and the teachers don't give enough of a shit to call them out on their faggotry. Each and every one of them and their reddit tribes.
The only thing left is for karma to catch up with these faggots and get a taste of their own medicine. If what >>16345242 said is true, then it might start happening now. Then there are the Minecraft and pokemon kiddie diddlers that got to cry on stream and videos and now have to finally deal with the law for their deprived shit.
82fb43 No.16346337
These old letter pages are the best. You can feel the editors rolling their eyes at the shit they have to respond to.
ade744 No.16347340
>>16345101
He's always been a giant fraud. Go back and listen to the Insert Credit podcast and you can hear first hand.
20d85d No.16353077
>playing Nioh for first time
>developers give you cool-looking endgame armor at level 1 as a bonus
yeah because why would I look forward to piecing together my outfit later on in the game? why would giving me a heavy armorset better than anything I'm going to see until endgame incentivise me to build my character heavy first, locking me into one playstyle or else I'm being retarded?
Already this game is shit. Thanks for getting me to waste my money again /v/.
20d85d No.16353094
>>16353077
Forgot pic.
The game is shit compared to Dark Souls. The combat probably has more depth but the weapon choices are bland and unexciting.
a0c26a No.16353348
>>16353094
The stances are fun to play around with but yeah the diablo loot is mostly there to hide that you basically only get 5 weapons throughout the entire game