b249f2 No.16325183
Deus Ex
>Deus Ex
F.E.A.R.
>F.E.A.R.
Elder Scrolls (no mods)
>Morrowind
ba3699 No.16325237
c7ed0a No.16325250
>>16325183
>I'm to zoom zoom to play Arena
What a terrible thread OP.
e29416 No.16325261
>>16325183
Final Fantasy 6
1029df No.16325262
Zelda
Warcraft
Final Fantasy
Madden
Sim City
Every Paradox game ever
Battlefield
ada04d No.16325293
>>16325261
FF4 and 5 were breddy good
In response to OP, I would say that the only good game in the Wario Ware series has been the original on the GBA. The others have much less effort put into them, and rely on the gimmicks on the console they're on.
26e4e9 No.16325306
>3D Mario
64.
>Final Fantasy
IV.
>Sonic
2.
>Smash Bros
64.
>Mario and Luigi
Superstar Saga.
>Yoshi
's Island.
>>16325262
>Zelda
There's Zelda 1, 2, Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening. I'm going to just assume you're an LttPfag, then.
a84d50 No.16325326
Far Cry
>>16325306
What does Sonic 2 have that 3 and Knuckles don't?
>Majora's Mask and Link's Awakening
Only bugmen think these games are anything special. They're no different than the other Zelda games.
1029df No.16325333
>>16325326
I knew I was forgetting something. Hell, most of Ubisoft's catalog counts.
26e4e9 No.16325339
>>16325326
>What does Sonic 2 have that 3 and Knuckles don't?
It's the only Sonic game that puts any emphasis on actually going fast past the very first stage.
>Only bugmen think these games are anything special. They're no different than the other Zelda games.
They're the only two Zelda games where the worlds felt actually alive and were fun to explore, the characters being actually interesting. Both were also significant refinements of those that came before them, OoT and LttP respectively.
4a0cbb No.16325346
>>16325183
Devil May Cry
>3
Dawn of War 40k
>Dark Crusade (Although it is my opinion that Soulstorm is better because it has the most content while still being a proper 40k RTS)
Fallout
>76
>>16325237
From a simple perspective yes, from an objective view no. HR gives you XP for literally everything, takedowns and kills, explorer bonus, non-lethal bonus, ghost bonus, hacking everything, etc, instead of only giving you fixed xp at certain checkpoints. How you get from A to B shouldn't fucking matter when the only thing that should matter is that you made it through a challenge. The reward for taking out an enemy while maintaining stealth is that there is 1 less foe to worry about. The only reward for being non-lethal only is that it should morally make you feel good and conserve lethal ammunitions. The only reward for exploration is a new path or loot See exploration for the only reward for hacking as well as lore. Of course this is from a metagame perspective however. I enjoyed HR without knowing this design flaw. Human Revolution is not a good modern Deus Ex, but it has a passing grade.
1029df No.16325347
>>16325339
>It's the only Sonic game that puts any emphasis on actually going fast past the very first stage.
Confirmed for being a shitter.
>the characters being actually interesting
and a storycuckold one at that.
b37a7f No.16325357
>>16325306
All 3D Mario are good
All Smash Bros. are good
FFIII > FFIV
26e4e9 No.16325390
>>16325357
>All 3D Mario are good
Sunshine forces you to use a gimmick that makes it nearly impossible to ever die. One fifth of the shines are locked behind tedious blue coins and the stage setting variety is worse than even the other Mario games, which is already pretty bad.
Galaxy's gimmick made the stage design painfully simple and linear.
Galaxy 2 had the same problem.
Odyssey has great movement but absolutely terrible missions, a significant portion of them being "go to one spot with this transformation and exist", "go to one spot and ground pound" and "talk to Toadette".
>All Smash Bros. are good
Melee would have been okay if half the roster was not fucking useless. I mained Kirby and thought Melee was absolute unplayable trash for the longest time because of it.
Brawl and 4 were slow to the point of not being fun.
Ultimate went too far with the meme roster and the input delay alongside the shoddy online makes it miserable.
>FFIII > FFIV
I can't think of anything that made FFIII special.
aa33bc No.16325410
>>16325183
>4 game series 1 spinoff
>3 game series 1 spinoff
>5 game series 3(?) spinoff
Not the best examples tbh. It's not like you're telling me Dragon Quest IV was the only good one and there's been almost 20 here.
26e4e9 No.16325426
>>16325410
Most series don't go on for twenty installments unless they hold some consistent quality or immense nostalgia. I mean, how many series can you name in total that have over ten installments?
26e4e9 No.16325498
>>16325485
Kirby.
But sure, many have gone to shit, but they go to shit after SEVERAL games, not one. Examples are Zelda, Mario, Castlevania, Mega Man, Silent Hill, Resident Evil and so on.
b419e6 No.16325562
>going 20 posts without mentioning the most serially raped game of all time
5657a7 No.16325572
>>16325562
>Dead Rising
>only one game in the franchise and it was good
<raped
I don't know what you are talking about.
4f7275 No.16325585
Fallout
>Fallout 2 was good, but more of a glorified expansion pack than a proper sequel.
X-COM
>UFO Defence Other games were too severely flawed or dumbed down to reach above mediocre
MoH
>Allied Assault
Need for Speed
>Porsche Unleashed
Star Control
>UQM
Red Faction
>Guerilla RF1 wasn't terrible, but it was definitely below mediocre, and everything else was garbage.
>>16325262
>Zelda
lol
>Warcraft
WCII was a huge improvement, but WC was a good game.
>SimCity
Same, up to 4
>Battlefield
Same, up to 3, even 4 wasn't strictly worse overall, even if it broke good design in 3.
>>16325306
>3D Mario
All of the other 3D Marios are good, but it's certainly disappointing that Mario 64 is better.
>FF
lol
>>16325326
>FC
Agreed. Even Crysis was disappointingly pat compared to FC.
>>16325357
Agreed
>>16325498
>ignoring literally everything without Sakurai on the project
0460c2 No.16325592
c1fc7d No.16325597
>>16325183
>series'
so you know how to pluralize possessives that end with S but not the difference between plural and possessive?
god bless ESL
26e4e9 No.16325605
>>16325585
>ignoring literally everything without Sakurai on the project
None of them were even close to being bad. Underwhelming, sure, but certainly not fucking bad.
>>16325594
Anon, you're a fucking retard, I swear to god. I agree that they all went to shit. But none of them are series that only had ONE GOOD GAME, which is what the fucking thread is about.
Read this sentence again:
>But sure, many have gone to shit, but they go to shit after SEVERAL games, not one
I wasn't listing examples of good series. We can argue where they went to shit and I would, especially in Mario and Castlevania's case, but that's not the point.
The only series I listed as having not gone to shit is Kirby, which is true. It's not as good as it was, but there's an in between between good and bad, you know.
26e4e9 No.16325609
>>16325606
So not only are you incapable of basic reading comprehension but you're also a cum guzzling faggot who hates fun and has absolutely no fucking taste.
4f7275 No.16325620
>>16325612
Sakurai Kirby is fun. If you mean Kirby has always been too easy, can you really say Zelda or Metroid, for instance, were any harder after their NES installments?
4f7275 No.16325633
>>16325623
Perhaps for a very young child, but anyone older than 8 that has trouble with either of those series post-NES is subhuman.
56e846 No.16325649
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16325352
Arena was garbage, even Julian LeFay could tell you that. Daggerfall was impressive and all, but just barely playable, even at the time. Battlespire was an amazing concept screwed over by company incompetence. Redguard was a fucking joke, terrible gameplay, awful concept, and blatantly terrible programming. Oblivion and Skyrim are mediocre, but I'd say they're better than Arena and more playable (yet ultimately much shallower, less interesting, and ultimately more generic) than Daggerfall.
Morrowind was a solid, yet very bland game at the time and the only one that will stand the test of time thanks to modding efforts. But we shall see. Arena has an open source reimplementation engine up and coming, so that could be something.
4f7275 No.16325662
>>16325636
My point is that those (and many other) Nintendo games are too easy to offer serious challenge to competent players, so any merit must come from other aspects. In the case of Kirby, it's playing with all the powers, enjoying the freedom granted by Kirby's platforming and flight, and soaking up the cutesy atmosphere of the levels.
Obviously, if those games were hard enough to really engage with mechanically, they would be better, but I don't think Nintendo or any of their fans are apt to make such a thing.
0e3b9f No.16325669
>>16325183
>with only one good game
>Morrowind
Ahem.
26e4e9 No.16325670
>>16325612
Kirby does just enough to keep every game fresh while not trying to needlessly reinvent the wheel or pander to an ever-increasing number of casuals since it doesn't really have to. It's slow and easy enough to where you can breeze through it if you're retarded, given enough trial and error. If you want to get all the collectibles and do the optional harder modes, which lately give you extra story stuff, that's an option, making the game more interesting.
I explained what happened to Mario in this post >>16325390 and do I really need to explain why 2D Mario went to shit after Land 2? Even World was a step-down, as both 3
before it and Land 2 after it had unique, interesting powerups and, for the time, unique stage settings (the biggest point that makes Land 2 stand out to this very day). World had little to it aside for "wow so many colors". Hell, the main gimmick, the cape, was so fucking underutilized that it took until romhacks for it to gain any real interesting use.
And again, do I really need to go over NSMB?
Zelda went to shit the moment LttP became beloved. It was the base for OoT, which subsequently became the base for the rest of the series. Everything got dumbed down. Even things like bombs became a glorified door. What puzzle is there to pressing a button next to a very clear indication in the wall? Link's Awakening at least had bombable walls that weren't marked, but you could find them as the sword would make a different sound. That is fucking perfect, but the rest of the series went with the LttP method. In Zelda 1, you could figure out which walls you can bomb with a bit of trial and error, but most often by looking at the map and trying to logic out where passage ways should be. Both of these implementations are great, but no, let's do the LttP one, the most needless mechanic yet.
Doesn't help that Zelda can either be defined as "empty open fucking world with nothing to do just to pad out the game length", as OoT, WW and BotW are, or "piss-easy linear gimmick-fest". Link's Awakening got the size right, where it felt like a real world but going from point A to B didn't give you enough time to contemplate your entire existence.
Mega Man took both routes. With X, it abandoned the simplistic, almost puzzle-like platforming that made the original games charming and with the later X games, went full fucking anime on top of some terrible game design choices. The original series, though, went on to invent progressively stupider robot masters with progressively stupider weapons. It was downhill from 4 onwards, and the increasing focus on X was the biggest factor.
In terms of story, Kirby has only improved as time went on. In terms of powers, it's stayed pretty consistent in terms of quality. In terms of music, it's gotten slightly better but has always been phenomenal. In terms of fun, maybe it has not lived up to Kirby's Adventure on NES or Kirby's Dreamland 2 on GB but there's still a lot of fun to be had. Has it gotten easier? Barely, from my experience. Any loss of challenge is balanced out by challenging collectibles. Basically, Kirby's newer games might be somewhat underwhelming (the new gimmicks of Robobot, Triple Deluxe and Return to Dreamland weren't that interesting), but I'll take that over going off the deepend with mechanics that make the game actively less fun.
4f7275 No.16325678
>>16325676
Markov chain confirmed
4f7275 No.16325694
>>16325683
>*click* *whir* *buzz*
26e4e9 No.16325699
>>16325695
But who murdered Mark's mom?
4f7275 No.16325707
>>16325670
>Zelda went to shit the moment LttP became beloved.
Was immediately switching genres with the sequel really a good idea?
>>16325695
>>16325701
Anon, you shouldn't give your password to strange email attachments.
4f7275 No.16325713
5a44fa No.16325721
>>16325695
In other news, water is wet.
Seriously, why are you preaching to the choir? Everybody knows this shit already.
b180d0 No.16325764
Fable
Bioshock
Dead space
>>16325745
>wtf, people get don't want to hear me squawk like a retard all day and instead want to talk about video games
<WAAAAAAAAHHH COMMUNIST
Kill yourself
0342cf No.16325800
Pains me to say this but…
Star Fox
833b5e No.16325808
>>16325800
Bout time someone mentioned Star Fox. Criminally mismanaged series.
9de9b6 No.16325824
Umihara kawase, nothing has ever come close to the SNES original.
Jak and Daxter. The only good game is the PSP spin-off
4f7275 No.16325827
>>16325800
>series
Isn't Starfox literally the same game remade over and over?
0342cf No.16325835
751059 No.16325856
>>16325800
snes star fox is also great. Emulated ar least.
(assuming you're referring to sf64)
a2cc7f No.16325857
Far Cry
>far cry 2, while not perfect, is the only one to feel like an actually coherent game
<far cry 1 goes to shit as soon as the mutants show up, Far Cry 3 is a mess of design decisions, and every game after is a Far Cry 3 clone in different settings
Metro
>2033
<LL has a lot of simplified mechanics in comparison and the locations you visit aren't really interesting, the plot is ass, Exodus is absolute garbage that never should've gone for the open world meme
Borderlands
>1 is alright, if a bit boring
<2 and everything beyond is an obnoxious memefest that doesn't improve the gameplay enough to matter
aeb33d No.16325863
>>16325585
>Shittalking X-COM:Apocalypse
You sound like an ayy.
02cc71 No.16325882
Counter Strike
Starcraft
(((Wolfenstein)))
Duke Nukem
>>16325764
Agreed on Fable and Dead Space.
4f7275 No.16325915
>>16325863
You have to admit the game is schizophrenic and incomplete verging on broken in nearly every subsystem, in no small part due to the attempt to accommodate two different timekeeping systems. There's a fantastic game in there struggling to get out, but some sort of source port with lots of mods would be needed to reveal it.
>>16325882
>not a series
>just two games
>discounting the games that created the stealth genre, the still enjoyable 3D, and the excellent RtCW/ET
>discounting the classic 2D platformers and Manhatten Project, not to mention that the 90s console spinoffs were actually pretty fun.
5ebcc0 No.16325918
>>16325882
The Duke Nukem spinoff games were good.
aeb33d No.16325920
>>16325915
>but some sort of source port with lots of mods would be needed to reveal it.
OpenApoc when
4f7275 No.16325933
>>16325920
Probably 2-3 more years. It's already far enough along to technically complete the game and get some hardcoded mods working, but there are a lot of niggling features missing, and the project basically only has one real programmer:
http://www.openapoc.org/threads/state-of-open-apoc-also-note-to-ankor.254/
http://www.openapoc.org/threads/is-openapoc-dead.220/
64193e No.16325942
>>16325183
I disagree. F.E.A.R. 2 was a good game in its own right, if a little consolized.
dd722c No.16325949
>>16325827
Recently they released Starfox 2, but otherwise yeah, 4 different versions so far.
0c0b85 No.16325982
>>16325262
>Unironically liking Warcraft 1
did you last play it like 30 years ago anon? Even the original developers think it's rough to go back to. It was so drastically improved by WC2 that it's debatable if it's worth playing outside of historical curiosity.
>>16325326
>Far Cry 1
>A game that revealed how Crytek could make engines but not games
>The AI was so badly unbalanced that the stealth system is pointless and you're better off just gunning everything in sight down and waiting behind a rock and executing dudes that walk past
>Some of the worst voice acting in video gaming history. Even worse than Deus Ex.
>No quicksaving, has a retarded checkpoint system. The PC version of the game was developed exclusively for the PC. The Xbox version was a remake of the original from the ground up. So Crytek did this completely of their own volition.
>the game is actually really linear and there's little incentive to explore
>the story is half baked and loses all impact after the mutants show up
>better than Far Cry 2
Far Cry Instincts was better than Far Cry 1. All Ubisoft did was take Far Cry 1, make the protagonist way more interesting (They replaced his voice actor with a guy doing a young Bruce Willis impression), added cool predator abilities, had an awesome console map editor and had way better pacing. I'm still shocked Ubisoft has never ported it back onto PC considering it was the game the later Far Cry games were based on not FC1.
>>16325562
DR2 was pretty good though. Not as good as DR1 but nowhere near as bad as its sequels. It still kept the simulation aspect of the original and the tight time limit.
>>16325649
>Daggerfall was impressive and all, but just barely playable, even at the time
Spotted the zoomer
200412 No.16326110
>Deus Ex
Bullshit, all the th other main DE games are decent at worst, i played them all a couple of months ago and i found them all really fun with caveats though.
862e56 No.16326116
People give SquareEnix a lot of shit but they basically rebooted a dead franchise. Deus Ex died in 2004. And thats if you count Invisible war in the first place.
It was kind of amazing they revived it.
8c04b0 No.16326136
Earth 21XX (2150)
Alien Shooter (2/Vengeance)
Trackmania (United Forever)
Painkiller (the first game)
Dungeon Keeper also qualifies, I guess.
>>16325346
>DoW
Eh, I'd say the first game and all of its expansions are good, even if it took years for Soulstorm to stop sucking.
>>16325882
Weren't W3D, RtCW and W:ET all good?
>>16325262
>Every Paradox game ever
Can't disagree, especially after they went "MUH ESPORTS".
5a7558 No.16326144
>>16325261
What about FF2/FF4?
200412 No.16326176
>>16325764
>Dead space
The thread is about series with only one good game not only one bad game
fa0067 No.16326184
>>16326116
>dead franchise
>ignores the mods that came out
>ignores the memes we had before the reboot
They simply cashed in on the mods and the memes. And now the dx modding scene is pretty much dead and the memes have been co-opted by clueless 12 year olds on jewtube. And to show their gratitude the franchise took a big shit on us… I am 100% with OP, there is only one deus ex game and that is the first one. Everything else is milking a dead cow to create another generic sci-fi shooter.
120161 No.16326191
>>16325562
I disagree. Dead Rising was "Great" but Dead Rising 2 was still "Good".
4f7275 No.16326230
>>16325237
>>16326110
>>16326116
Just because DXHR was actually a decent-ish game, sure, even a step up from the (better written, but mechanics-wise) Halo-fied mess that was DXIW, but it was still a disservice to DX1. I'd put it on par with something like XCOM:EU, Might & Magic X, or Bioshock 1, as something surprisingly good for a "modern" game, but still embarrassing and bland compared to the classics, certainly wholly unworthy of sharing any of the accolades accrued by the original. I'll grant it (and its playerbase) is certainly better about acknowledging and not falsely usurping its predecessor than, say, Fallout 3/4 or nuDoom.
16d727 No.16326238
>Undertale/Deltarune
The first demo.
afa74b No.16326366
As a Harvest Moon fan it took me a long time to realize this, but it's the truth.
afa74b No.16326380
>>16325585
>>16325346
>Fallout
OP said one good game, not zero.
8f90e5 No.16326392
>>16325183
I'm having a ton of fun with FEAR 2. It's not as good as FEAR but it's still much better than all its contemporaries from that console generation. The school level in particular was really well done, they did horror much better than the first game, I also appreciate being able to carry 4 weapons instead of 3.
594051 No.16326421
>Monster Hunter
Monster Hunter World
Can't believe a series managed to last nearly a whole decade before putting out a single good game, thank god Capcom is finally getting their shit together.
92e307 No.16326425
Is this the thread of shitty opinions? It seems so, also bonus for the one sentence cuckchan format
3a3ee0 No.16326429
>>16325262
>Battlefield
But that had 3 good games in it. 4 if you count Bad Company 2.
36e4c9 No.16326432
>>16326366
Why is this one in particular the good one?
ba4480 No.16326447
4a5ba9 No.16326678
>>16326432
By some alignment of the stars or general fluke, it has a good balance of simplicity and depth with solid goal orientation. There are too many things to do consistently every given day in the time you have, but not so many that you cannot do them all with careful planning (and thus demonstrate mastery of the game). 64 certainly isn't without its own flaws (very cryptic mechanics in some instances), but it does things at a competent enough level
This is in contrast to basically every other game in the series, which always has some debilitating fundamental flaw of its own to deal with. In some games it's an extreme lack of depth, in others it's too much depth of the kind that poses no meaningful decisions for the players, in others it's a slave-like pandering to realism resulting in tedium in accomplishing basic tasks, in still others it's a central lack of goal orientation to test the player's skill resulting in a "game" where all you really do is fuck around.
I'm convinced that Harvest Moon 64 really was just a fluke on the developer's part, because they've never successfully demonstrated the ability to identity what that game does well and emulate it in subsequent games.
4a5ba9 No.16326680
>>16326429
>4 if you count Bad Company 2.
You wouldn't of course unless you were a shit eater.
f0654f No.16326710
How can such a good series have literally ONE good game is beyond incredible. And not even that, there's literally only one version of HttF that is worth playing, with all the others being worse versions of it.
3a3ee0 No.16326734
>>16326680
Yeah, I don't and I haven't even really played it, but I see a ton of anons mention it here.
9712af No.16326799
All of the Deus Ex games are good. Just not as good as the original.
17b30e No.16326804
Deus Ex is the Evangelion of video games; pretentious and vapid as fuck.
88f322 No.16326835
i love Deux Ex for trying to do so much, failing at some of it but succeeding where it matters
f427b7 No.16326837
54e6c5 No.16326850
>Rance
Sengoku, Kuchikuou doesn't count
>>16325306
>>Final Fantasy
>IV
They all suck a dick
>>Sonic
>2
3 is also good, 1 isn't bad either, retards just think it is.
>>Smash Bros
>64
They're all shit
>>Mario and Luigi
>Superstar Saga.
Babbie's first RPG
>>Yoshi
>'s Island
Agreed
54e6c5 No.16326859
>>16326804
Deus Ex isn't remotely as pretentious as Eva and Deus Ex was right and a good game to boot, Evangelion was just boring trash retards prop up as amazing
56e846 No.16326896
>>16325982
Ah yes, a faggot.
Random generation can not make a game good or fun. Roguelikes are fun because of the base mechanics, not the level design. An actual RPG should have designed levels. Daggerfall has a handful of designed levels, with the rest being generic, unplayable, and generally atrocious randomly generated wastepiles. I'm sorry anon, you're a nigger.
fb11b2 No.16326950
>>16325237
It was consoleshit. Fucking deleted it as soon as I saw the popamole hide-behind-cover-by-pressing-a-hotkey gameplay.
>>16326176
>The thread is about series with only one good game not only one bad game
Yeah, that's why Dead Space belongs here.
2d65cc No.16326964
>>16325857
FC's strongest point was the mutants. Replace all the trigens with grunts and you get a barely average budget schooter. This is why FC works better as a survival horror title than a shooter.
You're forgetting Blood Dragon. Arguably the best FC, better than the first two combined.
29fc74 No.16327000
There are several series I can think of that went on but have no good games, but I'm having trouble coming up with anything where I'd say that there is only one. Even series that have deteriorated a lot tend to have at least one other game that would be good in a vacuum.
>>16326366
SNES, BTN, and FoMT are all good games. Liking 64 best out of all of them is a perfectly defensible opinion, but it's certainly not the only good game in the series.
2da0ec No.16327001
>>16326859
>Eva is trash
Look, evangelion is amazing, but for the reasons no one ever discusses or even knows. The people who claim it's amazing cause it's 2deep4jew are morons. The reason NGE is amazing is because it's pure uncut self flagellation of the creator, with a company (gainax) stepping in to call him a retard for not whipping himself correctly (not enough waifus and merchandise characters) and pouring salt in his bleeding wounds (fuck your cohesive story, wrap that shit up and make it happy) only for the victim of his transgressions (the fans) to burst in the room and start pissing in his mouth (the death threats and various graffiti hideaki Anno received) because he didn't finish flagellating himself.
Hideaki Anno is the original Brendan fraiser, if not in similar instances, in being JUSTd.
And this all started because his little 7 year old ass wandered into the wrong movie theater and saw 40 minutes of graphic porno rape that only 60s era Japan could provide.
>Useless information
The sex scene in EoE with misato is the exact actions of the actress who was being raped in said porno, and shinji watching it is hideaki attempting to come to terms with the shit that's been weighing him down since his youth. The same actress was choked to death in the scene as well. Explains the predilection with asphyxiation and wrapped hands by hideaki, eh?
>>Nb4 this is all 2deep4you shit
No, this is all surface level shit. evangelion is the most pure spilling of a man's trauma on screen there will ever be, and then a company came in and succeeded in merchandising and whoring his pain. That is why evangelion is great.
54e6c5 No.16327021
>>16327001
I need Anno was a self-hating tard, but I didn't know any of that, holy fuck.
2da0ec No.16327071
>>16327021
When you know it, it makes watching evangelion just a bit better. You can take a look at all the 2deep shit in evangelion and realize the real reasons they are there that the shit heels who often claim evangelion is amazing never knew.
>All that shit involving Christian style religion?
Hideaki absorbed tons of religious texts during his teens and early 20s in an attempt to find peace
>Rei being absent then shoved in ham fisted
Hideaki grew to hate his own mother and anything related in any way to her and often times wrote out rei only to shove her back in out of guilt.
>Zero characters having good relationships with the opposite sex
Hideaki spent his entire life both fearing and fearing for women. It leads to things like kaji fucking a 14 year old off screen, akagi getting shot by hideakis idea of what a man should be, and shinji getting routinely pegged by anything with a pussy.
Hell, if you can find it, there was a info-collective of all the things Anno has said and written over the years, which is explaining everything that happens in NGE. Why he wrote that, why this character does that. There were snippits of his scrapped autobiography in there as well.
In short, some people like keeping a Bible handy while watching the matrix to understand the references, I recommend a few psychological textbooks and a bottle of bourbon
259d74 No.16327077
>>16327000
SNES is too simple, it just doesn't have enough going on mechanically. Back to Nature is basically like a bad ROMhack of HM64 with annoying load times and absolute shit controls. Friends of Mineral Town would be great with all its mechanical improvements on 64, if it were an actual fucking game. Sadly, the fact that there is never an ending or evaluation of the player's progress means there are no real goals and the game never tests you on anything, making it just a boring simulator.
2da0ec No.16327080
>>16327071
… When watching evangelion is how that should have ended.
Ill sage because I realize only now that this isn't /a/ and this thread is about shitty videogames
34d5f1 No.16327098
>>16325483
Tor is shit for manchildren.
36ce69 No.16327101
>>16326964
I've only ever played FC3 (a bit) and Blood Dragon (repeatedly). To me, there's no other game in the series besides Blood Dragon.
ce5557 No.16327107
>>16325183
Half-Life (only the original is any good)
9134f2 No.16327113
This thread is just full of forced opinions. Actually I struggle to think of a series that fits this, but it certainly isn't fucking Mario.
ce5557 No.16327123
>>16327107
Let me amend that, Blue Shift and Opposing Force were ok. Nevermind what I said, then.
dd5a2c No.16327136
>>16325262
>Every Paradox game ever
Thats suprisingly true. CK2, Vic 2, DH, and EU 3.
4aaddd No.16327144
>>16326421
>still shilling World
Here it comes
29fc74 No.16327156
I guess if I take "long series" to mean with >2 games, Dragon Age counts.
9dad8e No.16327231
9dad8e No.16327241
>>16326964
Part of the fun with fighting against grunts was that you were able to perform a variety of tactics against them. You would need to aim for their head properly and gunplay felt pretty satisfying because of it. Mutants were bulletsponge enemies who knew where your location was at every point.
80e410 No.16327245
>Suda 51
Killer7. Yeah, okay, it's not a "game series," but nothing Suda has made comes close to how good Killer7 was.
80e410 No.16327254
>>16326964
>You're forgetting Blood Dragon. Arguably the best FC, better than the first two combined.
My issue with Blood Dragon is that it had the right tone and the right aesthetic, but it still utilizes Far Cry 3's engine which emphasizes stealthy approaches to take out more than two enemies. For a game that's all about balls to the wall action, going in guns blazing and being macho as fuck if you tried running at an enemy you'd get about five feet before he pumps you with two slugs and you're in a critical state.
7fc91a No.16327262
>>16326964
>You're forgetting Blood Dragon. Arguably the best FC, better than the first two combined.
It's still like 5-6 hours long which really puts a damper on it.
>>16327254
>This is a game where you can sprint super fast and wield a minigun
>"I die too much"
Maybe you just suck anon
80e410 No.16327283
>>16327262
Maybe I do, but I'm a sitting duck when I'm using the minigun which, again, leads to death when there's more than two enemies in the vicinity. I'll never understand people's affinity for a game that kinda lies to you about what it is.
1fbcac No.16327284
>>16327245
>Not a game series.
Killer 7, No More Heroes and Killer is Dead are all part of Suda 51's assassin series.
7b7dd8 No.16327285
>>16327245
It belongs to the Kill the Past series, so it's fine.
80e410 No.16327287
>>16327284
Are they all part of the same universe? I don't recall anything linking Killer7 and No More Heroes. Admittedly, I only got about an hour into Killer Is Dead.
7b7dd8 No.16327302
7a6bb0 No.16327384
>Rayman
1
>Legacy of Kain
Blood Omen
>Mortal Kombat
2011
>Mario Party
5
>Mario Kart
Double Dash!!
bc97f1 No.16327470
Kirby
The original 1st game
85dcd8 No.16327616
>>16327245
I'm sorry, but as much as I love some of the characters and iconography from Killer 7, it's a really shitty game. The gameplay is boring and half-broken, the puzzles are intelligence-insultingly easy, and the story, while showing a lot of potential to be interesting and cool, is incomprehensible, and what little you can decipher is incredibly up its own ass.
Ulmeyda is still great though.
20356f No.16327626
ITT retrokids idolizing their missing father's games
e680b1 No.16327895
>>16325857
>Exodus
>open world
b249f2 No.16328138
>>16327616
This, No More Heroes is a much tighter game, and that one isn't perfect either because the gameplay is also too simple.
>>16327626
>OP implicitly shat on Daggerfall
>kids idolizing old games
5ebcc0 No.16329018
Is it wrong that I think the first Bubsy was a good game?
3c9ae5 No.16329083
>>16325882
Is this based on that slavic statue of a king kicking and beating up a bunch of babies?
703dfe No.16329091
>>16326859
Deus Ex is about as pretentious if not more so than Eva. Both are loved by reddit. Shit gameplay, god awful story and drawn out writing.
80e410 No.16329116
>>16327616
That's okay. We'll agree to disagree. But yes, Ulmeyda is a fun character.
07b67d No.16329123
>>16325183
>morrowind
>fear
<good
58c465 No.16329138
>>16327287
The new No More Heroes arcade game connects it all. It's even got shit from the silver case and flower sun and rain in it,
with it technically being a direct continuation of those games.
200412 No.16329157
>>16326950
But Dead Space has two amazing titles
6171d2 No.16329208
>>16325237
We already had this discussion, no it isn't.
54e6c5 No.16329409
>>16329091
Nice wrong opinion
70e5d4 No.16329436
>>16325800
Let me counter-signal you in good faith. SF1 on SNES isn't too bad but mostly awkward due to being balanced around a very low framerate. SF2 is actually pretty nuts, though. The whole game being dogfighting and choosing your targets and trying to play efficiently (most notable in the highest difficulty) is a lot for a 3D SNES game.You can arguably even fly to or towards other objectives in space without going to the map, if your current target happens to fly towards it while fighting. There's a lot there and it's a shame it was never released until the SNES Classic. One day I might play that to see how it holds compared to the fan finish.
Like >>16325856 though, I'm assuming you're talking about SF64 which is also alright. I ultimately think SF2's highest difficulty is the most replayable SF game though.
e15132 No.16331193
>>16325183
>F.E.A.R.
The most overrated /v/core game by far.
703dfe No.16331816
>>16329409
>waahhh I don't like ur opinion
Deuscucks are THIS mad.
26e4e9 No.16331845
>>16329091
Deus Ex' writing was thought out and references to the real world actually meant something.
Evangelion quite literally dropped random references to things because they looked cool.
703dfe No.16331851
>>16331845
>deus ex writings were empty and pretentious woke alex jonestein bullshit
>evangelions writings were empty and pretentious woke alex jonestein bullshit
I'll be sure the evil nazi vampire ISIS goblins don't steal my DMT. Based and Deuspilled.
d3f311 No.16331884
>>16331851
You need to go back to whatever hole you crawled out from.
c8d3a3 No.16331906
>Magic the Gathering
Shandalar
>Jagged Alliance
2
>Tropico
4 although 5's campaign actually had a few surprisingly clever moments
>GTA
Vice City
>Every game in the Disgaea shared universe
Phantom Brave
5a44fa No.16332005
>>16331851
>empty and pretentious
4f7275 No.16332094
>>16331851
>>16332005
I'd go further, that Do Sex isn't just unpretentious, but that it's downright humble. Unlike Eva (or, to choose a vidya example, Bioshock) which wraps itself in popculture references to pretend it has greater meaning than it actually does, DX invokes numerous mutually contradictory conspiracy theories (with some genuine fact mixed in) as mere flavor, allowing the audience to find whatever level of deeper meaning they feel like within it.
67ac91 No.16332202
>>16325262
>implying any Madden was ever good
The competition was always better. Gameday>>>>>>>Madden
2k>>>>>>>>>>Literal bullshit>>>>>>>>Madden
Blitz>>>>>>>>>>>>>Madden
58ec24 No.16332216
>>16331816
>>16331851
I get banned for an hour for dubs bombing the gaylo thread, and posters like these stay up. Way to go mark you faggot kike.
a7ac05 No.16332262
>>16332094
Average brain washed retard. Too up in his own farts about his hypocracy. Deus Ex is the epitome of pop culture numale bullshit. Bred from the same though from Family Guy, Rick and Morty, and Futurama, Deus Ex prides itself by being the most pseduo-intellectual reddit-tier garbage possible by wrapping itself in a layer of "wokeness" that only nu/pol/ retards like Richard "Implicit" Spencer find cool. When underage arm chair philosophers play Deus Ex they believed that they're transformed into a realm of secret knowledge, where the illumnatty is broken wide, and all the sins of AmeriKKKa are "BTFO epic style"
Deus Ex and it's philosophical children like Rick and Morty are a pox of this Earth that has spawned a mass swarm of mongrel spics that pride themselves off of online IQ tests, all the while failing High School and upsetting their parents.
213d52 No.16332273
>>16331906
>Tropico 4
>Vice City
>good games
2c957a No.16332399
>>16329091
>both are loved by reddit
nigscuse me? Reddit doesn't give a fuck about either of them, and if you tried to garner interest they would probably say shit like "it looks too old" and "omg sooo dated yikes😬😬😬", and MAYBE if you got them to sit through it, if they actually paid any attention, they would just look for some reason to claim 'they's teh evil propaganda for white supremacist recruitment' or some shit like that.
You underestimate how bad reddit is. They no longer have the ability to appreciate anything in earnest and instead see each issue - every game, movie, show, song, video, every creation of man - as a stick to beat the other team with. Nothing can be taken on its own merits, because the collective grudge is so staggeringly high that redditors see people with other opinions as dangerous terrorists. "Oh hey have you seen this new anime/game/album it's about blah bl-" "THIS [media] SEEMS AWFULLY INCEL TO ME. SOUNDS LIKE RECRUITING FOR THE ALT-RIGHT AND NORMALIZES AND ENCOURAGES EVENTS LIKE CHRISTCHURCH. AWFUL. JUST DISGUSTING, FUCKING CENTRISTS LACK THE BACKBONE TO STAND UP AGAINST SHIT LIKE THIS"
It's really that bad. Nothing can be enjoyed, nothing can be divorced from politics. You niggers are SORTA bad about it too, but you're mostly intelligent enough to think critically. It's unhealthy and deranged.
t. someone who used to browse reddit in public instead of 8chan because reddit is more socially acceptable
c8d3a3 No.16332416
>>16332273
Anon, I mean this question sincerely based on your specific objections, are you deaf? Because I can see where Tropico 4 and Vice City wouldn't be as fun if you didn't get to enjoy their soundtracks.
0e2800 No.16332422
>>16332399
Maybe Eva and Deus Ex are actually both really great and anyone who hates them is an outsider redditor faggot pseduo intellectual who thinks using "pretentious" makes him look smart or something.
I mean the show literally has canonical jews controlling the UN. Guarantees only kike shills only hate Eva.
dbb4df No.16332433
>>16325237
I hated HR. I reluctantly tried to like it until I ran into woke Letitia. That is when I knew the game was irredeemable trash. In fact the only redeeming quality is how much Letitia triggered the libs.
>>16325183
>Diablo
Diablo 1
>>16325357
FFV > all
>>16332094
No slack 4u bob
5a44fa No.16332436
>>16332262
On the slight chance that this isn't bait, what do you consider to be a good example of politics in games?
dbb4df No.16332442
>>16332436
>Deus Ex is the epitome of pop culture numale bullshit
but he's not wrong desu
5a44fa No.16332454
>>16332442
When it wasn't a series no normalfag even knew the game existed. Calling it pop culture is like calling Tetris obscure.
dbb4df No.16332471
>>16332454
anon Desu Sex was a normal fag game from day one.
5a44fa No.16332488
>>16332471
Then why does every fag I knew from college think it started with HR?
36fbee No.16332498
>>16332471
Deus Ex is exactly the kind of game that nobody would play unless they're willing to take the risk that the ugly graphics for it's time was a false alarm and not a red flag.
dbb4df No.16332506
>>16332498
>2000
>ugly graphics
Anon it was a good looking game back in the day that graphic whore normal fags loved.
>>16332488
they weren't saying HR, they where saying HRT because you are a tranny.
774735 No.16332520
>>16332506
>they weren't saying HR, they were saying HRT because you're a tranny
Gottem.
307c2b No.16332522
>hitman
Hitman: Blood Money.
36fbee No.16332544
>>16332506
>back in the day
This is the kind of history revisionism that I'd expect to see from someone who can't even tell that the game is made in Unreal. The game is ugly, at the time of it's release everyone who hated it and loved it thought it was ugly. It's not just a matter of textures but everything about it from the way physics are handled to hitboxes screams a rush job, which it is. Despite this it still gained a following by it's own power.
dbb4df No.16332572
>>16332544
>y2k
anon you're clearly the revisionist. but those are still nice digits.
ba4480 No.16332581
>>16332572
dude sex was panned pretty hard for looking worse than unreal and half-life despite being 2 years newer and running several times worse.
dbb4df No.16332605
>>16332581
>RPG was panned pretty hard for looking worse than unreal and half-life despite being 2 years newer
No
ba4480 No.16332612
>>16332605
>RPG means ugly
don't be that stupid
79e405 No.16332623
>>16332618
Actually, replace Golden Axe 1 with pic related.
dbb4df No.16332636
>>16332612
>RPG in y2k means ugly
yes
b13d14 No.16332640
>>16327071
Didn't Kaji reject Asuka?
0e2800 No.16332647
>>16327001
>And this all started because his little 7 year old ass wandered into the wrong movie theater and saw 40 minutes of graphic porno rape that only 60s era Japan could provide.
I thought this was Itoi and became the inspiration of Gygas?
4f7275 No.16332648
>>16332262
<taking everything in life this seriously
>Family Guy, Rick and Morty, and Futurama
The problem with those shows isn't their brand of humor, but that the base genre they've chosen built on top of (the sitcom) is the lowest ooze of comedy. Compare them to something like H²G² or Red Dwarf, which use approximately the same sort of humor, but built atop a genre (gag sketch comedy) that's actually good to begin with.
This is why Deus Ex is so much more enjoyable than its imitators, because it's written by people who understand how to make an entire overarching design that plays to its own mutual strengths, instead of thoughtlessly gluing together mismatched things that are popular. It even comes through in their choice of conspiratard lore as subject matter, because instead of using it as a bludgeon to communicate some "vewy impowtent" message, it's there to build on the story themes of cyberpunk and the mechanical tone of players exploring the environment.
>>16332544
Absolutely this. DX was ugly even if, like many other aspects of its deign, the graphics was very thoughtfully done to dovetail with mechanics and atmosphere, unlike the pee-vision clutter of DXHR necessitating magic outlines on everything.
>>16332636
>Baldur's Gate 2, Morrowind, FFX, etc., weren't lauded for their graphics
>>16332618
>Thief TDP was bad even Thief DS wasn't a bad game
>R6 1&2 were bad
dbb4df No.16332930
>>16332648
>Baldur's Gate 2, Morrowind, FFX, etc., weren't lauded for their graphics
thanks for proving my point with bad graphics games as an example. Thy you Tod Howard try hard fell it necessary is a trip. But whatever fam tbh afk ochimoochi dot twitter dot never mind again on in-till infinity. L33T shanaynay bitch made. Never forever. Jewgle forever ever. Tower of babel is a mistake you dumb kike. We will all die 4 your sins. Whatever and ever amen, forgive me.
2da0ec No.16332974
>>16332647
You are right, I'm a dumb fucking faggot and should be ashamed of myself.
Hideaki Anno had a cookie cutter bad childhood, with his mother and father having horrid fights, but the part of him being obsessed with strangulation does come from seeing some porno during his prepubescent years.
I'm still a stupid cunt for getting the two mixed up
2da0ec No.16332982
>>16332640
Publicly, yes he did. Kaji also needed to do something to her to make her obsessed with him, and in the Japanese audio, you can hear a conversation where he's talking about how "it wasn't worth it because now she's obsessed with me"
9134f2 No.16333059
>>16331906
>>GTA
2 was a good game
stop it
d25e0c No.16333176
>>16325183
>Macking on daggerfall like this
Fuck you too, nigger.
03f9a5 No.16333587
>>16333176
>Macking on
I wonder what that would mean if it was translated into English.
48751b No.16333647
>>16333587
Probably a perversion of "smacking on" as in "smack-talk"
9da607 No.16333724
>>16325237
HR was worse than Invisible War, except it had armies of journos praise as a masterpiece.
333e93 No.16333745
>>16326191
dead rising 2 sucked
>hey what if we added another timed thing to do ontop of the normal game timer?
>bro it would be sick to remove the whole "in a mall and you gotta use anything to survive" thing and just have most of the game be a las vegas strip, with 2 small mall parts
<What if we made all the weapons not fit in with the theme, but also make them useless just so people are forced to use the workbench
chuck the cuck and his AIDS infested daughter was a shit idea for a game, that doesnt even take place in a big mall
4f7275 No.16333775
>>16333724
Anon, HR certainly had many flaws, but at least it didn't have loading screens every 30 feet, or unified ammo. HR was stupid, but IW was stupid and broken.
e88715 No.16334413
>>16325183
>>16325262
>>16325306
>>16325326
>>16325764
>>16327107
>>16327384
>>16331906
>>16332522
>>16332618
>implying F.E.A.R 2 isn't good
>implying Oblivion isn't good
>implying there has been a bad Zelda game other than spin-offs like Four Swords
>implying there has been a bad 3D mario other than 3D World
>implying there has been a bad Mario and Luigi game
>implying Final Fantasy hasn't had multiple good entries
>implying Fallout 2 & New Vegas aren't good
>implying there has ever been a bad X-COM game other than spin-offs like Enforcer
>implying there has been a bad Red Faction game
>implying Dead Space 2 isn't a good game
>implying Opposing Force and Half Life 2 + Chapters aren't good games
>implying Rayman 2, Origins and Legends aren't good games
>implying GTA 3 and San Andreas aren't good games
>implying Hitman 2 and Contracts aren't good games
>implying Thief: TDP isn't a good game
How do people even browse /v/, everything that isn't bait is a retarded elitist opinion
5657a7 No.16334423
>>16333647
>>16333587
It's supposed to mean flirting.
54e6c5 No.16334424
>>16334413
Stop posting any time
b85120 No.16334435
>>16334413
Oblivion is ok, not good. Otherwise I agree with everything else
a84d50 No.16334483
>>16332618
That Golden Axe Zelda clone on the Master System was fun.
a15478 No.16334489
>>16334413
>implying F.E.A.R 2 isn't good
Is it? I finished 1 and I've looked at some videos of 2, but it didn't strike me as a game that was true to the original.
e08a3c No.16334514
>>16334489
Fear 2 is okay. The story is kind of disjointed, its more action-y, and it has less atmosphere imo. All the hallmarks of a sequel. Worth bargain bin price at least.
3 is where it gets fucky
b249f2 No.16334515
>>16332506
>it was a good looking game back in the day
You know how I know you weren't around back then?
>>16333176
Not my cup of tea but I respect your opinion, I'm biased towards Morrowind because it was released right about the time I got into videogames, I think I'm gonna download Daggerfall on my phone.
>>16334413
Oblivion isn't good, it is passable.
28078d No.16334526
Deus Ex graphics were bad for sure even by the standards of the time but the size of the levels was impressive.
8792fa No.16334655
>>16326421
Japs' autism single handedly kept the series alive, their shit taste has no measurable bounds but fortunately MHWorld came of it, I am as surprised as you are.
51e8af No.16340186
>>16334413
>implying F.E.A.R 2 isn't good
The good: pretty cool gore effects, some scenes had a nice ambiance, creepy zombies (the guy waiting for the taxi cab, and the other playing the piano), the anticlimactic QTE confrontation against Col. Vanek was oddly satisfying (it was funny to mash the E key and blow the head of the main villain -with his own shotgun- even though the guy never really feels like a threat. The fact that he's also trapped in between two doors is fucking hilarious to me)… that's about it.
The interface takes up too much space on the screen and even adds bent lines to outline the view for no fucking reason. Gunfights are not as satisfying as in the previous game mostly because all guns feel like they lack punch and there's way fewer particles. There's only one save slot (come the fuck on). Most of the music is rehashed from the first game. The story is so fucking mediocre that Monolith knew you wouldn't pay attention, and thus you are reminded every five minutes of what's going on thanks to the most ham-fisted dialogues I ever had the displeasure of being harassed with:
>Oh my God! Armacham board of directors is attempting to kill the CEO and everybody else involved.
>I never thought Armacham would use its personal army to kill all the witnesses.
>Who would have thought Armacham was so evil, they are ready to kill everyone.
>Armacham will stop at nothing to erase all traces of their involvement in this case.
>Do you know who you're shooting yet? That's right. Armacham. Because they are evil. And they want to erase all traces of the project.
It fucking never ends. It's like they took the first game and dumbed it down as much as they cool so that an idiot with the attention span of a goldfish knows what the fuck is happening.
Also, your sidekicks dumb dialogue before they get killed by Alma are so fucking obvious it's insulting
>I hear a woman crying, I'll go and check it out alone! I'll be right back.
Not to mention the nonsensical JamesBond-esque settings… the first underground hospital was stupid enough that I really got pissed off when I arrived to the school: how is it not suspicious to anyone that, when building a school, you have to dig deep enough to create a whole top-secret research center? How did nobody notice when the top-secret lair in question was being built. How do you replenish supply and computers to the top-secret facility when the only access is located under the infirmary? How does no one hear the mega elevator moving if they are bringing down kids there during school time? How come nobody wonders whether it's a good idea or not to let a military corporation own a school? Each subsequent level is stupider than the last.
And those fucking easter eggs… they become so obnoxious that "Breast feeding for men", "do it yourself surgery", "A guide to creating clones", "when surgery goes bad and other gruesome tales" are funny book titles when you see them the first time, but shit like this is fucking everywhere.
I never felt miserable playing a video game before, but F.E.A.R. 2 did that for me. It feels like a parody of the original game, and you're being reminded of how better the first was every step you take. While Armacham felt like a legit company that went overboard because of a few employees, it's now a mustache-twirling villain and they might as well write "we're evil, get over it" as the header of each and every memo and contract they print.
Fuck this trash game.
51e8af No.16340215
>>16340186
Oh, and you can't lean anymore.
f9e367 No.16341353
>>16325669
Back to Reddit, Toddposter.
f0654f No.16341363
>>16331906
>>16332273
Tropico 3 is better, if anything because it's a remake of the first game with less problems with the UI
7ef530 No.16341379
569c7d No.16341847
06ff09 No.16341874
Final Fantasy
>Final Fantasy
a37922 No.16341884
cec492 No.16341993
>>16341847
Almost all of the entries are essentially the same game though