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46cb43  No.16295355

I was watching a video about early 3DS hacking, and it went over how an exploit in a game led to cracking over the system. This made me wonder, would it be viable if some game dev put out an indie game on PSN that intentionally had an exploitable feature like loading custom levels that allows for running custom code? Anyone indie dev fags wanna explain why this wouldn't work?

17037d  No.16295369

>>16295355

I don't see why it wouldn't work. The first major wii exploit was done using an unpatched copy of brawl and a buffer overflow using the save file.


fe546c  No.16295372

Pretty sure that all current consoles run games within cancer bubbles that prevent any changes to the OS itself. I think the few layers of interactivity, like making clips and streaming, could be points of entry but rather than putting your own data there, the OS makes data on its own and then you simply save/stream it if you so wish, so I highly doubt anything of the sort could be done.

Essentially, there needs to be a point where the OS communicates with the game and there aren't many of those. The 3DS was just poorly made.


9dbe92  No.16295390

>>16295372

>Pretty sure that all current consoles run games within cancer bubbles that prevent any changes to the OS itself.

Wasn't Anthem bricking systems because it broke out of that bubble? Also, I remember hearing that even virtual machines can easily be comprimised if you go for the GPU.


fe546c  No.16295395

>>16295390

Depending on how the brick happened, but were there ever any verified reports? I just remember seeing several Reddit posts.

I mean, I'm sure it's possible in SOME way, after all, PS4 Piracy is possible.


62dae7  No.16295449

Console releases require you to pass certain standards, including not crashing and having certain gameplay features (iirc xbox is responsible for making every game have loading screen tips). However, a hidden backdoor might not be found. I doubt you'd want to allow running custom code because someone would make a virus that bricks the console and retards would install it and you'd probably be blamed.


27d81d  No.16295456

I'm sure everyone is chomping at the bit to run afoul of Sony in an actionable way. To be the person who got one over on them, unlocking piracy on a system that was extremely difficult to exploit? You saw what they did to Michael Jackson, and all of THAT horseshit was just to get the Beatles Catalog that he refused to sell.


3fd385  No.16295477

PS4 hacking already exists but requires an older firmware version. It's done through the web browser like the mid-life 3DS hacks were

lania.co/ps4_index.html

If what's been posted ITT is true this might be the only method


62dae7  No.16295506

I heard that all versions of the PS3 are now hacked, is this true?


f66b00  No.16295516

>>16295477

There isnt much point in caring for an exploit as long as you cant pirate vidya tbh


6f9666  No.16295531

>>16295456

That was Sony music iirc

TheFlow is fairly brazen with his Vita exploits and he's been fine


4bd0c3  No.16295684

>>16295516

You can, that's what it means by 'backups'


5eab56  No.16297400

>>16295506

Not really. You can "kinda sorta" hack later PS3 models using this thing called "PS3Xploit HAN" but it fucking sucks because it can take over half an hour to install a single game with the one convoluted method you have available and you can't use homebrew at-all.


5eab56  No.16297406

>>16295506

>>16297400

The good news is all Fat and Slims made before late-2011 can be hacked even on the latest firmware iirc. If you look at a model and it's CECH-2500 or higher though avoid it because you can't downgrade the firmware and thus you can't really hack them.


b34d41  No.16297445

>>16297406

>If you look at a model and it's CECH-2500 or higher though avoid it because you can't downgrade the firmware and thus you can't really hack them.

The 25XX are the last models you can still downgrade for full on CFW, ideally youwant a 21xx/25XX because they use a finer process for the RSX and CELL so they overheat less easily.


5eab56  No.16297471

>>16297445

Noted. I like the design of the fats and they can be easily-identified as hackable models but you gotta be aware of the overheating risk with those. It's not as common as most fat 360's but there's no Jasper-equivalent model of them to keep you safe, every fat model is known to have overheating problems.


19f2c2  No.16297499

>>16297406

I wanna look into hacking a Slim since it would be a great emulation machine.


5eab56  No.16297504

>>16297499

Just make sure you stay away from the newer models because it's looking increasingly-unlikely that they'll ever get proper CFW to be able to run homebrew and emulators.


b34d41  No.16297532

Now here's a question, how worthwhile is getting a PS4 just for piracy purpose since I've been offered one for a decent price several time.

What should I be looking out for (FW versions hardware rev. etc)?

>>16297499

Generally homebrewed console as emubox is a mediocre idea, PS3 does up to PS1 well enough, then a very small amount of PS2 and PSP and you probably can forget about good N64 and DC / Saturn on it, you could most likely just get a refurb SFF desktop off ebay with a slim GPU and have it be entirely superior in every way for a very good price.

Honestly only the Wii or WiiU is wortwhile for that because they're cheap as fuck and they give you the full NGC library and stuff up to PS1 with a handful of N64 and even DS with increased res on the WiiU


19f2c2  No.16297559

>>16297532

I worked on a Wii, but I think I made a mistake investing in it since it doesn't do HD and my upscalers still make it look like shit.


e5d019  No.16297565

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16295355 (checked)

Is it this video by any chance?


b34d41  No.16297574

>>16297559

>my upscalers still make it look like shit.

Only good upscaler without a fucking ridiculous price for 480p is the OSSC so yeah

Wii is pretty good if you need to use a CRT though.


5eab56  No.16297625

>>16297565

I just watched that video earlier, it's a solid and well-researched documentary and there's no sign of eCeleb bullshit yet definitely recommend checking it out.


46cb43  No.16297779

>>16297565

Yup that was it


000000  No.16297837

>>16295355

>This made me wonder, would it be viable if some game dev put out an indie game on PSN that intentionally had an exploitable feature like loading custom levels that allows for running custom code?

if anyone did that they would be immediately shoah'd from the store and probably sued.


6b9ab3  No.16297990

>>16295355

Pretty sure it has already been done, one of the last dreamcast games (it was a compilation disc) had info inside it to help emulation and piracy, it was signed by a developer and addressed to a a guy who had been cracking dreamcast games since the console launched.


8423c5  No.16298206

>>16295369

Actually it was Twilight Hack. Which I happened to be able to try out when first picking up my Wii since it was on some ancient firmware.

>>16295372

The 3DS does have layers of separation but then it also has stupid shit like making the ARM9 its security co-processor with full rule over the system, while simultaneously using it for NDS backwards compatibility, which is why certain games DSiWare games were useful for jailbreaking. They also somehow managed to have three critical vulnerabilities that are unfixable since they are in ROM: arm9loaderhax, sighax, ntrhax.

>>16295477

>>16297532

That's current, yeah. It's also not a persistent jailbreak. I haven't actually done a lot with my PS4 yet as its scene is pretty sub-standard at the moment. There's two big problems with the system in general.

- Game updates normally require PSN, PSN requires updated firmware. I was able to sideload an update for NIER Automata on a jailbreakable system but it's a manual process.

- Firmware requirements for games are enforced similar to Vita. So a game (or update for a game) requiring a higher firmware version is unplayable with a jailbreakable system.

For now I've left mine at 4.55 and haven't jailbroken it except for that game update. While I'm at it does anyone know if you can pirate the voice DLC for Neptunia VII? I want to play it but not if I need to put up with "thunder tits" QUALITY dub.


7b30ad  No.16298244

3DS hackers are (were?) autistic as fuck. Feel bad for those who had to wait for hacks, that autism never happens with PS hackers.


8423c5  No.16298265

>>16298244

Did you somehow miss all the good things that the hacking community did for the Vita? Like, they fix pretty much everything that was wrong with the system.


e88776  No.16298562

>>16298244

All hackers are autistic to a degree.

One of the recent PSVita hacks is a elaborate side channel.


e88776  No.16298566

>>16295355

You can do that but you'll have to tell someone of the bug for it to be useful.

Plus you'll have to make an actual game. If a bug is the primary purpose it's kinda impractical.

This only helps with the very top level anyway, there are still lots to deal with.


f66b00  No.16298622

>>16298244

>that autism never happens with PS hackers.

the autism does happen within PS shit tho

Whoever (Yifan i believe, cant be sure) who was in meltdown during the USA elections, and Rinnagatamante (some dude who does Vita homebrew ports of PC games) who temporarily shut down the homebrew database after stupid Discord drama bullshit. He got over it but just another proof that programmers cant take any bantz without overreacting

>>16298265

Vita hack took a long time to become fully mature and it didnt help that there was this meme going around that the "PSP was killed by piracy" (despite actually being part of its success in the West)


8423c5  No.16298694

>>16298622

The mentality needed to be a good programmer often produces people who are at odds with most regular people. Exceptions exist but they're rare.

>PSP was killed by piracy

Vita is the only counter-argument needed for that. Piracy was no option for over four years, so the only blame for its failings was Sony's incompetence.

>Vita hack took a long time to become fully mature

Don't need to tell me, I only picked up the system due to HENkaku but it snowballed to the point of maintaining documentation for the Vita general threads. On top of being a nice system if you like Nip games, the hacking community has done so much to reverse a lot of its crappy aspects, and it's also just been amazing to see the unthinkable happen. It only recently got any form of downgrading, but it was a long wait.




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