d2cb5f No.16287940
>Apple introduces Apple Arcade — the world’s first game subscription service for mobile, desktop and the living room
http://archive.fo/JcqHk
apple.com/newsroom/2019/03/apple-introduces-apple-arcade-the-worlds-first-game-subscription-service-for-mobile-desktop-and-the-living-room/
54304b No.16287942
521cc9 No.16287945
>renowned creators
It's been a long while since I've fallen for that shit.
5a85ab No.16287946
You forgot to mention the important bits, like Apple directly funding games from Platinum, Wayforward, SEGA, etc.
e88913 No.16287947
Megacorps are going all in to force a crash so Tencent can swoop in and take control. Screencap this.
5a85ab No.16287949
>>16287945
It really depends on implementation and exclusivity. Either way it's not something I'm too worried about, mainly because iPhone has no controls.
d1a752 No.16287950
And the retards will eat it up, guaranteed
7a4baa No.16287952
>first google
>now apple
Well, video games were good while they lasted lads, it was nice knowing you all.
1a722f No.16287956
iCant fucking iDeal with iThis anymore
73a42c No.16287961
>>16287952
I don't get it, why is this bad news exactly? it just takes retards away from the real vidya pool and draws them to the shit vidya pool, leaving us with less people in the real vidya pool. that's how it works in my mind.
8f79b1 No.16287964
>>16287945
>from the renowned creators of great hits like Candy Crush and Angry Birds!
They'll be names pretty much nobody knows but maybe recognizes the game titles.
8d3dc0 No.16287969
>>16287964
>appeal to roasties
Why? That might work if this was tv or something else but women hate video games because it reminds them of how weak and flawed they actually are.
cdc22a No.16287975
>mobileshit
Doesn't matter. These games have to be designed to be playable with only a touchscreen, so they won't be comparable to PC or console games. This is just an attempt to fix the monetization model for mobileshit to make it less cancerous. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't, but it doesn't matter as long as touchscreens are still the primary control method.
7a4baa No.16287976
>>16287961
Because developers will go to where the money is. If retards eat up the Stadia/Apple meme then there will be more games on those platforms and therefore less games on actually good gaming systems.
73a42c No.16287978
>>16287976
I think you have it wrong, only shit developers will go there, I think this will just sanitize the real games cliques.
db591c No.16287985
Well, the Apple fanboys will eat it up, I have no doubt about that.
It's pretty funny how everyone expected the usual suspects like MS, Nintendo or Sony to make a move like this, and then Apple and Jewgle swoop in one after another and usher in cancer the likes of which the industry has never seen before.
All in all, everything depends on whether those two gambits turn out to be profitable.
I look forward to watching the industry burn.
>>16287952
Is jewgle's Stadia or whatever they call it subscription-based?
I know it's streaming only.
1832d0 No.16287993
>>16287978
>>16287961
remember when people though Indie games was going to be a good thing? Same shit but much worse.
f79a2c No.16287999
Where do microtransactions fit into a subscription-based model? Mactards gonna be lost without their pay2win.
cdc22a No.16288000
>>16287981
Doesn't matter, because no one wants to make mobilefags buy a controller in order to be able to play their game.
7a4baa No.16288007
>>16287978
I see what you mean, but most of the time it's not as simple as "bad developers will chose to go there", it's more like "apple and google will pay good developers lots of money for them to work with them".
>>16287985
>Is jewgle's Stadia or whatever they call it subscription-based?
Nah, when I mentioned apple and google I was more so referring to them entering the gaming industry, not subscription-based services.
9a7375 No.16288013
>>16287976
Only developers whose life purpose is to fuck over their customers will choose Stadia and whatever other stream service as their main and only platform. Good developers, that is those who actually care about videogames, understand that streaming-only is counter to preserving games, as either an art-form or entertainment, for the future and will not go that route since they want the fruits of their labor to persist and be remebered/enjoyed until the end of times.
This will only be relevant for indie-shit and soul-less AAA jewery, for they are the only ones who will be allowed into these ecosystems. Real developers will stick to developing games for real platforms, and you may say that those will be few, but at least I will then know who actually gives a fuck about this media and can then simply ignore the jews and their golems since I won't be even be able to consume their shit, which I think is a plus.
That's what I think, but who knows if the entire industry will go to shit and even good developers will get dragged into the shitter by corporate fucks.
2762e5 No.16288016
And there we fucking go.
The only hope left is that developers make far more shekels off of full-priced games than subscription services. It's down to relying on developers being greedy kikes to save what's left of this industry.
I don't think it's worth saving.
7c0d16 No.16288019
>>16287978
real games on real consoles will not make as much money as iGames and stadia games; since there are more people on the apple and google consoles, theres more money to be made because they love spending money on obvious pay2win traps.
so why, as a dev, would you spend thousands of hours toiling away on a masterpiece thatll sell for 60 dollars a copy that only niche fans will buy when you can make a form over function piece of crap Click to make Harambe Dab game and add payment options of 1 million clicks and 1 billion clicks etc for 10 and 100 dollars each respectively, and to nobodys surprise the iGame/stadia casual faggots actually hork that shit down like chronically starved commieshit gulag prisoners in front of a barbecue meat buffet?
you may not like it (i sure as fuck dont) but this is the state of video games in cy+4 and onward
2762e5 No.16288020
>>16288013
>Good developers, that is those who actually care about videogames
Name them, as I sure as hell cannot.
9a7375 No.16288025
>>16288020
/agdg/
And the people developing open-source games as a hobby
964af3 No.16288033
>>16287961
>>16287968
>>16287976
By that logic, everyone should've jumped on the lootboxes and mobile memes, yet only a few select parties have with varying degrees of success. Vidya won't die, you fools, only whales and kids will buy titles from those platforms. This has ALWAYS been the case.
Nonetheless, /agdg/ is the way of the future.
5e549b No.16288037
It's not a streaming service and you can play the games offline, who gives a fuck
2762e5 No.16288041
>>16288025
The best way to let them I'm technically part of that sphere too, I guess is to let the industry die. Go back to the 80's home computer scene, where hobbyists could send their floppies in to small publishers and have their games released, on equal footing with any other game. If big games committed suicide like this, the only games available for those who don't want to stream them will be hobbyist games. The only thing that mattered was word of mouth, really.
8a17ee No.16288043
>>16287946
>SEGA
JSRF or SoR4 better not be an apple timed exclusive
e88913 No.16288046
>>16287999
>Where do microtransactions fit into a subscription-based model?
Have you been paying attention to MMOs this past decade?
8f79b1 No.16288049
>>16288020
Like the good old days, you need to go look for them yourself.
db591c No.16288051
>>16288033
>>16288025
>/agdg/
I'd like to agree, but the last demo week didn't really impress me.
But I'll wait to see if someone actually releases a game before judging. Hopefully a good game.
2a8f7e No.16288056
41d537 No.16288057
>>16287976
If there is a market, there will be a product.
We'll always have midbudget weebshit and slavmagic games to fall on. And it is better if normalfags get out of console and PC gaming, because then PC/console gaming will have to cater hard to the hardcore audience since it is the only audience left.
We'll have less games, but it was always quantity over quality anyway.
000000 No.16288059
>>16287940
And it will fail. Games as services is already dead.
2762e5 No.16288065
>>16288051
That's not surprising. The people working there are mostly making games for themselves. I know I am, because the industry hasn't done what I think they could do quite simply in 24 years or so.
No one is going to make your dream game. No one but you.
6dc640 No.16288066
Apple and Google can subscribe to my dick for wasting so much time and effort on this hopefully DoA bullshit.
8787fa No.16288069
>>16288019
Same reason people still make and release video games for free - because they like video games and want nothing more than to contribute to the hobby they love.
7416c4 No.16288075
I thought Will Wright quit the video game industry after what EA did to him over Spore?
e88913 No.16288083
>>16288075
All famous developers are cocksluts for publishers and love to bitch and moan about them like catty whores.
83332d No.16288084
>>16287940
>Apple having the worse profit dropouts last year
>Chinks and Gooks of Huawei and Samsung are taking over the market
>Apple head Tim Cook lamenting that 10 years of non-stop smart phones and tablet shit along with failures of their ventures like the Apple Watch have stopped their growth
>Apple never gave a shit about gaming, but now they're ballsy to think people will buy their phones for this reason
Wew, can't wait for Microsoft to join in the fun with Nokia shit
48532e No.16288091
>>16288084
MS doesn't own Nokia anymore.
1df430 No.16288107
>>16288084
>Tim Cook lamenting what went wrong
While Apple hasn't updated their sorry excuse for a 'workstation' in
OVER FIVE YEARS
a54289 No.16288118
More companies that don't give a fuck about video games trying to push video game streaming. Sad thing is Apple fanboys are stupid enough to sign up for this shit, even if they never played games before.
e88913 No.16288121
>>16288107
How bout those laptops still using the same faulty soldering and and chip placements from 2007?
4ffdca No.16288125
>>16287961
Because AAA companies adopt the practices of that industry to gain maximum revenue. That's why we have to pay microtransactions for red dot sights in CoD now.
794363 No.16288126
>>16288107
And their software has gone to shit. Remember when people would buy Macs just for iMovie and shit to make crappy YouTube videos? No one does that anymore because iMovie is completely unusable now. Same with their professional shit like Final Cut.
1df430 No.16288128
>>16288118
It's not streaming but it's still retarded to rent mobile games. Especially 'Apple curated' ones that are going to have nogs and trans-cripples jammed in.
2e0b0b No.16288129
>>16287947
tencent trojan horse already caught stealing user data, tencent is known.
it will come from somewhere else.
6dc640 No.16288131
>>16288121
>>16288107
>listening to non Genius Bar employees
You two are fucking retarded and are glad to mindlessly follow idiots who turn their macs into PCs and then end up incessantly bitching about how IT DOESN'T JUST WORK.
e88913 No.16288137
2762e5 No.16288138
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16288131
>Genius bar
You mean the faggots that either have no idea what they're fucking spouting or are actively malicious rip-off artists?
b27490 No.16288140
>>16287981
Will they produce their own controller, though?
39d5c9 No.16288141
1df430 No.16288144
>>16288131
What the fuck are you talking about nigger?
48532e No.16288145
>>16288131
Weak bait, didn't even reset your IP to change ID.
3860c2 No.16288147
>from people who hate games but love money a game platform for people who play solitaire instead of working
>>16288091
>MS owned nokia
What the fuck? No wonder their phones went to shit few years ago.
>>16288126
This is what happen when you hire people with "a vision and ideas" instead of people who understand what they are doing.
e7867a No.16288149
>>16288118
>More companies that don't give a fuck about video games trying to push video game streaming.
That doesn't seem to be what this is as users are able to play offline. Apple's service is a CURATED collection of exclusive games you subscribe to. Essentially, they are the cancerous titles nobody wants to play that would never sell on their own. Likely to be mixed with a small number of higher quality exclusives to bait normalfags into paying for the service.
48532e No.16288150
>>16288147
>What the fuck? No wonder their phones went to shit few years ago.
Why did you think they only made Windows phones? They only a year or two ago were sold by MS to a Finnish company called HMD Global, which now handles their shit. Apparently their new phones are decent but I read on local public broadcasting that they apparently send/sent data to China.
6dc640 No.16288152
>>16288138
>no idea what they're fucking spouting
They work in a place called the GENIUS Bar. I think intelligence isn't in question here.
2762e5 No.16288159
>>>/v/16288152
Now you're just baiting, anon, and not well. Watch my last embed.
284832 No.16288162
>>>/v/16288152
I think any shitheel can get a job there if they've owned a Mac in the past.
3860c2 No.16288164
>>16288149
>small number of higher quality exclusives
I grantee they will fail to make even one. I doubt they will be able to pretend to have them or pull any meaningful advertisement. The only way they can sell anything is to pretend that everyone, who is not using their platform, is a poorfag who cant afford good games. "premium games for premium people"
346ef7 No.16288170
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>16288138
>>16287940
>Silicon Valley bleeding money because of SJW faggoty and Californian taxes
>Slilicon Valley will probably trigger the next big gaming crash
Even liberal mayors and governors are getting sick of tech hipsters. ((big tech)) will probably move Seattle in the next 10 years.
6dc640 No.16288172
>>16288159
Truthfully I'm just bored and coming up with these is kind of fun.
b27490 No.16288173
>>16288091
>>16288147
Microsoft never outright owned Nokia as a whole. Yes, they managed to put their trojan Elop in charge, and then they bought the handset division, which was resold later. But Nokia never stopped operating independently as a major provider of telecom equipment.
9a7375 No.16288176
>>16288164
>The only way they can sell anything is to pretend that everyone, who is not using their platform, is a poorfag who cant afford good games.
Requesting the screencap of that redditard explaining how they buy Apple's shit because it makes them appear of higher status.
681b7b No.16288184
>>16288051
Still kinda stuck on mine, I'm working on a different approach.
But anyway, you will have normalfag companies chasing normalfag bux, which will leave a void. If there's other devs around, keep heart because there will be a void to fill.
And since it'll be mainly small devs, don't necessarily expect AAA gaming.
48532e No.16288193
>>16288173
That's indeed the case, but for consumers like us the Nokia consumer phone side being sold is the entire name being sold. It's similar with Motorola, too. Their telecom side is still American, but the consumer phone side with the Motorola name is owned by Lenovo and hence the Chinese.
95810d No.16288222
>>16287976
It becomes overfilled, causing development to be a lottery system effectively. We've already seen it with mobile games, where there are so many developers releasing games with such a low average quality that it becomes impossible to earn a stable living in that market unless you're either a massive company with a huge marketing budget or a lone developer shitting out 4 crappy 99¢ games a month to get by. Remember when everybody was trying to jump into mobile and most of them were getting burned? Oversaturation is a real bitch.
b2f8c4 No.16288279
>>16288147
Apple calling Arcade a gaming service
is like comparing that cartoon to Ben Garrison
d9d713 No.16288294
>all this focus on gaming writing
Seems like they don't give a shit about video games.
eb27ac No.16288296
>>16288033
>By that logic, everyone should've jumped on the lootboxes and mobile memes, yet only a few select parties have with varying degrees of success.
Yeah no one makes mobile games or games with lootboxes… Except of course ,EA, Activision, Sony, Nintendo, Micosoft, Blizzard, Bethesda, etc.
At least none of those companies are financially successfull. Oh…
65f517 No.16288331
>>16288041
I'm pretty sure they will be fucked over by enginedevs because soon they will make it only possible to release games on streaming services and it seems like nobody knows how to make an engine anymore.
>>16288075
He's currently working on a mobile game called Proxi and was a board director for Linden Labs.
7416c4 No.16288334
>>16288296
>Blizzard
>Financially successful
The only thing keeping them afloat is Activision.
2762e5 No.16288341
>>16288331
Open source engines will always exist. Either old versions of currently used engines, forks of current open-source stuff like Godot, or engines also made by hobbyists that are open to others. Worst case, those willing to learn will learn. It's what I'm doing now.
3860c2 No.16288350
>>16288334
They are still hugely successful considering that they underpay their employees who basically work for food and "privilege to work in such great company" while selling shit to chinese and lootboxes garbage. But they might have to start really reducing expenses, they need to keep executives their 5kk$ salary.
ce3d59 No.16288370
>>16288033
WoW dominated MMOs for a decade and every single dev tried to make the next WoW killer without sense or wisdom, bankrupting themselves again and again. In the mobile games market in it's current state right now there is an even more extreme situation where about 10 companies gain tons of cash while everyone else can expect to make bank on about $40-60 tops. /agdg/? last time anyone released a game on steam they made $30 because it was part of a bundle and died before it could receive any light. This is going to be more of the same, no foresight and every single one of those devs and publishers will simply throw money into a sink hole and everyone else will follow suite because it's the current trail of money.
e7867a No.16288573
>>16288370
Most people make games and expect the stores to sell it for them. Either that, or they do not not understand how to market effectively. Saturation isn't the issue unless people are already aware of the competing titles.
e88913 No.16288599
>>>/v/16288585
Suicide bombing your shill office.
e8200b No.16288609
>>16288574
Being realistic doesn't mean being defeatist you moron.
e88913 No.16288637
>>>/v/16288621
Expect all kinds spam like this today with the Sony press conference.
4bf0fd No.16288645
>>16288574
I thought blackpill anon was only on /tech/
1904ad No.16288647
>>16288574
t. Triple A nigger
3860c2 No.16288666
>>16288573
>Most people make games and expect the stores to sell it for them.
Steam takes 30% from the sales and yet people expect that steam will do absolutely nothing to sell their games.
4b8c5f No.16288686
>>16288574
>>16288585
>>16288674
Will somebody choke this (((kike))) to death now? To the incinerators!!
9a7375 No.16288698
>>16288645
>Only on /tech/
He's all over the place pushing his niggerpills.
1a174e No.16288710
>>16288574
Just do us all a favor and off yourself as you clearly dream of doing.
4b8c5f No.16288734
>>16288599
>>16288609
>>16288637
>>16288645
>>16288647
>>16288686
>>16288698
>>16288710
The mods act so quick here. /tech/ and /n/ should have mods this good too. Thank you!
5fbd0c No.16288765
>>16288674
If the battle is already lost why do you continue to post? Wouldn't you resign yourself to a bluepilled mindset if you chose to assimilate and go full madman like that kiwi recently. In that situation you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Go to Valhalla you weak nigger. Blackpill is retarded.
9a7375 No.16288797
>>16288734
/tech/s mods are lazy fags. If only it had good mods and not the niggers that allow the board to get filled with 4um-like threads and posts. The quality has plumeted like hell.
43080c No.16288810
eb1d05 No.16288849
>>16287993
Indie games were a good thing, nearly every single genuinely good game that has come out in the last decade has been an indie game
>Factorio
>Rimworld
>Dustforce
>Devil Daggers
>Darkwood
>all Zachtronics games
>Lovely Planet
>Kenshi
>Bastion
What has AAA given us? I can't think of anything other than maybe Bloodborne.
4b8c5f No.16288870
>>16288765
The dumb (((jew)))'s posts were already removed. I agree on that blackpill is retarded.
>>16288797
Indeed.
d6309d No.16288901
>>16288025
I'm biased I'm developing a free game for /v/ in my spare time, but I honestly believe this to be true. Its the last resort for games made by people who genuinely like gamedev. I've seen projects from /agdg/ that are 10 times more creative then what the current industry produces. Even by their simplicity. Its mindboggling.
As an addendum I recently watched the latest montage trailers for comiket Doujin games just out of curiousity. I felt a sense of wierd excitement I haven't felt for a long time. These people deserve your attention. They might be small scale projects, but they have a certain element of human quality many mainstream productions lack.
sorry about the triple post
e88913 No.16288904
>>>/v/16288849
>Bastion
I'm getting sick and tired of you giantbomb tier spics constantly pushing this storcuckold trash written by a literal game journo faggot.
eb1d05 No.16288918
>>16288904
The gameplay was solid, the art/music were fantastic, and the story was okay but gets points for having a unique setting. Why are you so buttmad about it?
ced9a7 No.16288920
>>16288000
Dozens do and people buy them.
afb194 No.16288950
I think the other Anon is right that as long as portable gaming like on phones exists, stream only bs wont be fully achievable. Especially with everyone not always being at home with their supposed stream only DRM boxes. Outdoor convenience is still big. The Switch and mobile gayming revenue recently surpassing PC gaming solidifies this.
1904ad No.16288966
>>16288950
>PC will be freed from the clutches of Triple As
>Consoles will turn into true hell on Earth
And so the balance is restored.
eb1d05 No.16288970
>>16288020
The ones that made these >>16288849 and Taleworlds if they ever fucking finish Butterlord
43080c No.16288985
>>16288950
people are worried about ths streaming thing?
its going to lag so much, i should hope no one would settle for such mediocrity but ive been disappointed before.
3860c2 No.16288988
>>16288849
I heard DMC5 is alright.
>>16288950
You understand that 95% of mobile game profits come from whales, right? And its nothing more than gambling/addiction machine. And its getting so much money because its not regulated as gambling yet.
db591c No.16288999
>>16288184
>don't necessarily expect AAA gaming
I wouldn't want it.
But one of my serious concerns about /agdg/ is the complete and utter lack of trained artfags who know what they're doing.
One of the things that I enjoy about games are good and consistent aesthetics.
Hell, even the Japs manage to, for the most part, have completely retarded (read: loud and obnoxious for the sake of individuality) character designs that blend into the setting.
7363a7 No.16289032
This is fine. Modern vidya has long since been sentenced to death and it's time to accept that it is 100% normalfag-driven from here on out. There are decades worth of good vidya from the past and loads of fun mods to play on top of that. Not even blackpilling I just know this shit isn't gonna get any better but at least we have tons of stuff to fall back on
79a99c No.16289051
>Will Wright
vaguely interested in seeing what happens.
a4ee9f No.16289054
e7867a No.16289079
>>16288666
>Steam takes 30% from the sales
Publishers took 70% of revenue in comparison, Satan. Placing titles on store shelves ain't free. Just because it is on the shelf doesn't mean people will buy it. Steam provides a store page, handles transactions, refunds, tax collection and reporting, and offers support features. Developers get money deposited into their account.
>steam will do absolutely nothing to sell their games
Marketing is your responsibility. Steam gets a cut and has no incentive to promote games that people do not buy.
003507 No.16289090
>>16289051
>spore: gacha edition
ed525a No.16289096
>>16289090
>You have to pay microtransactions to make your penis and vagina monsters.
>You have to pay to roll ball jiggle physics.
e88913 No.16289099
>>16289090
This is pretty much what Kemono Friends is.
003507 No.16289108
>>16289096
>reach the end of the stone age
>have to buy the further ages or kill 10000 other monsters
114890 No.16289112
Personally, I welcome our new botnet overlords.
7574d9 No.16289116
>>16289032
Thanks, now i'm downloading waifu2x so I can blow up that image 10x with my 1070 so I can have it for a wallpaper.
86a809 No.16289131
>>16287961
retards tend to pay more for things than smart people
6228e1 No.16290904
>>16288065
I wonder if it even is possible to make your own dream game. If you know the insides of it, it is a different experience to playing the same game made by someone else.
0d4046 No.16291025
>>16287946
Mobile shit made by Platinum is still mobile shit.
0d4046 No.16291034
>>16288573
Here is a black pill: humans are social creatures. They want to play what everyone else is playing. This is why releasing your game on Steam or the Play Store without marketing is useless.
e88913 No.16291417
2762e5 No.16291455
>>16290904
It has to be fun in spite of you knowing the ins and outs. In fact, the development should be half the fun in the first place. For me, instead of thinking an idea is cool upon seeing it, I think the idea is cool once I come up with it.
bc10e5 No.16291461
>>16287940
>have no ads, ad tracking or additional purchases, and respect user privacy.
finally
e09dc5 No.16291467
Lol
Theyre gonna buy up all the good exclusives and ruin gaming forever
Time to buy all the gamecube games and get a modded console
2762e5 No.16291470
>>16291467
>Time to buy all the gamecube games and get a modded console
But Gamecube has no gaems.
bc10e5 No.16291478
>“The App Store is the world’s biggest and most successful game platform. Now we are going to take games even further with Apple Arcade, the first game subscription service for mobile, desktop and the living room,” said Phil Schiller
>said Phil Schiller
>Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing
>Schiller
>Marketing
bc10e5 No.16291493
>>16288033
>Nonetheless, /agdg/ is the way of the future.
dubs confirm they are the only hope for new vidya when all of you faggots learn moonrunes and finish your backlog of burger/rice videogames
e88913 No.16291495
>>16291461
Apple's definition of respecting user privacy means they make the FBI pay for your info instead of just giving it for free.
c2b658 No.16291507
>>16288904
>crosslinking
>in the same thread
Are you retarded?
858d5a No.16291664
>>16287950
They already have been gobbling up this shit for years. The mobile "vidya" market directly competes with PC and consoles combined. You have the zoomer retards abusing daddy's credit card in addictive (((freemium))) cashgrabs, and then you have the lazy millennial plebs who can't be assed to play a traditional game, invest time and enjoy it. They beg for instant gratification and the shallow mobile shit offers exactly that, if you have the coin of course. All of this stupid behavior reinforces the business decision of big studios going mobile and investing minimum effort, and perfectly sets a precedent, that traditional vidya isn't financially viable anymore, thus contributing to this downward spiral of shitty cashgrabs even further. The only quality in recent years seems to come from some passionate indie devs, but they're also slowly catching up on the big shekel train, as proven by the recent Chinkcent exclusivity sponsorship.
>>16287961
>why is this bad
It incentivizes to drop quality and go for the path with the lowest resistance to someone's cash. The result is mtx riddled Clash and Farmville clones.
>>16287978
You attest these indies with too much idealism. The iDiot ecosystem is a perfect toolset to minimize effort while maximizing profit.
>>16288084
The result of peddling overpriced hardware for over a decade. There's not a single legitimate reason to buy Apple products. Everything they offer comes from competitors in at least the same or higher quality. Nobody would cry if they went out of business, not even the iZealots, that have an attention span of a fly and jump on the next big fad.
>>16288131
A bunch of toilet paper degree hipsters with 20/20 glasses. Surprised they aren't called iGenius or some pretentious crap.
>>16291034
The braindead masses do. Everyone else does play whatever they prefer.
6ddd3a No.16291818
>>16291470
Luckily for me im part early 2000s normalfag so i can be happy playing zelda pokemon and other shit like that forever
Also halo and destiny 2
YOULL NEVER TAKE MY GAMES JEWS