e31468 No.16285090
People have been saying how games like Sekiro or Furi or Dark Souls are boring because you have to behave reactively by only being able to attack or do anything after countering an enemy's attack, which seemed rather strange to me because to me boss battles in practically every game ever always revolve around waiting until the boss does that one attack where you can hit him while he recovers.
So I gotta ask: What are these hyper-aggressive games where once you git gud enough, it is you who dictates the pacing of the fight, it is you who delivers an absolute beatdown on enemies who can barely retaliate, and it is you who shreds through tough enemies in ten seconds that would take scrubs two minutes?
dd2f72 No.16285096
Devil May Cry. The game rewards you for being a style-beast and fucking with enemies. My favorite is messing with Royal Guard and styling all over Vergil.
687396 No.16285097
DMC
God hand
Any high reaction based action games do that usually.
9e7f7a No.16285101
That mostly sounds like Dynasty Warriors and every off-shoot of it where you just button mash your way through hordes of fodder. Alternatively, Soul Calibur where you can string combos and juggle enemies forever.
89d2ce No.16285154
9ecf28 No.16285171
>git gud
whenever I hear this its one of those things like pepe that gets abused to the point it turns into terminology that ledditors/cuckchanners abuse and kills its original meaning.
c57f06 No.16285172
Dark Souls and Sekiro work how fights ACTUALLY DO.
Why anybody would call that boring just tells me they suck at it.
c57f06 No.16285173
>>16285171
It means get fucking good, stop bitching, stop bringing everyone else's good time down because YOU are insufficient.
Got it?
Not hard to grasp.
9ecf28 No.16285180
>>16285172
>Dark Souls and Sekiro work how fights ACTUALLY DO.
>Soulshit combat is pretty much how fights work in real life.
You're pretty retarded and it shows how u have never been in an actual fight in your entire life.
c57f06 No.16285192
>>16285180
You have the option to guard shit and dodge shit. You calling it shit and acting smug for no reason just makes you look like a fucking faggot. I bet I could kill you with my bare hands you stupid little anime girl obsessed piece of trash. I'd fuck you up dude.
c57f06 No.16285200
Hey asshole, you cant play the game? just fuck off and play something else. dont try to astroturf and act jewish like nobody is allowed to like it because you arent good at it. Instead of doing that you should really just fucking kill yourself. Nothing less. Just get the fuck out of my world. All of you.
467e56 No.16285202
>>16285172
>works like fights actually do
Yeah I hate when I throw a punch and am just stuck like that for a good 3 seconds, unable to move or stop myself from completing the entire motion.
73761a No.16285206
Guys stop attacking each other so aggressively
c57f06 No.16285223
You know what? I hate you people and I'm glad it's not one of the board's favorite games anymore. You, specifically the PC community, make everything fucking CRINGE. I'm happy you wont be talking about this game or future fromsoft games like you use to. You don't deserve it anyway. You're shit people wanting everything to be shit because you're unhappy with your personal lives.
e26ba6 No.16285225
>>16285172
I can attest to this. The last time I was in a fistfight I got wrecked because every punch took away 40% of my health and I ran out of potions
9ecf28 No.16285228
>>16285192
1)Most fights are already predetermined before they even begin.
2)Its usually whoever lands the first punch on a persons face.
>You have the option to guard shit and dodge shit.
3)The average person has very poor endurance , they gas out and use too much energy in the first couple punches throwing all they can barely move much less dodge getting burnt out from exhaustion.
4)if you're not smart you can easily break your hands. You wouldnt know it but ive known people that fractured the bottom part of their hand from throwing stupid punches in wrong place on a persons skull.
>>16285195
>>16285200
U really are just a shill.
42779c No.16285231
>>16285217
>>16285200
What other imageboard can I go to that doesn't have mentally deficient dipshits like these?
9c36c8 No.16285233
>>16285225
Just learn your opponents patterns and iframe dodge through his punches
667d24 No.16285234
>>16285154
This and a number of other IREM games more generally. Gunforce games, In The Hunt, Gallop, Dragon Breed, etc.
667d24 No.16285237
Some Castlevania games do this well too, including Super Castlevania IV when you're all hopped up on triple crucifix power. Others not so much.
e26ba6 No.16285239
>>16285233
Isn't there like a hat I can wear to make my own punches stronger?
beebda No.16285244
>>16285172
Ah yes, rolling around on the floor to avoid getting hit, a classic tactic in Irish bare knuckle boxing.
667d24 No.16285274
>which seemed rather strange to me because to me boss battles in practically every game ever always revolve around waiting until the boss does that one attack where you can hit him while he recovers.
You're playing the wrong games OP, try more scrolling shooters.
f0146b No.16285288
>>16285186
>Git gud is now a normalfag thing
Lurk more fag
5c936a No.16285291
Sauerbraten
FFA or Efficiency duel
If the other guy is inferior, he will ragequit by minute 3
Does happen with instagib duel and, even instagib multiplayer on some open maps, but dying 50 times in 10 minutes with the opponent never respawned happens only in FFA.
Pity it hasn't got much people anymore, but last time I checked the people had fun
4eaea3 No.16285365
In theory, the answer is obviously fighting games. You can be exactly as defensive or offensive as you need to be if you have the skill to back it up, and your opponent is an actual intelligence as opposed to an artificial intelligence. The only issue is finding people to play with.
77c137 No.16285372
667d24 No.16285375
>>16285365
Depends on the fighting game though. Some like Guilty Gear are extremely aggressive and actually punish players for turtling. Others are boring turtlefests where the goal of the game is who can sit in a corner and spam projectiles the best.
aa48be No.16285395
>>16285186
time for (You) to go back
858afb No.16285471
>>16285395
is that an edit or something? Cause that art is all sorts of fucked.
000000 No.16285520
>>16285090
Dark Souls and Sekiro are easy and also shit. Dark Souls was never good. On the other hand, Contra III indeed is a good game.
>>16285171
>>16285203
Git gud, redditor.
2577a1 No.16285652
dragons dogma and ys games.
2577a1 No.16285671
>>16285520
dark souls is a well madd game and was original at the time. the mesh based hitboxes and level design, replayability, variety of weapons and the way multiplayer worked were all clever and well done.
dont let memes, fanbases, and sequels ruin your memory.
c80c4c No.16285673
944129 No.16285930
Punch Out in general has bosses that you can play very aggressive against and possibly kill them in one round.
944129 No.16285940
>>16285671
So well made with hallways of copy pasted enemies that was followed by an amazing boss. the bed of chaos! Bravo, based nip devs.
50e51c No.16285961
>>16285180
actually I have been in fights where i roll around on the floor, jump 20 feet into the air, slash with fire magic energy from my sword and hit the glowing weak spot on the enemy's second head or tail, before doing a backflip and landing in a high tree branch.
shows how much you know.
b14245 No.16286014
>>16285203
>>inb4 WAHH CENSORSHIP
Git gud is a non-argument but you're a whiny bitch.
667d24 No.16286019
>>16286009
Contra Hard Corps is a very poor example of what OP is talking about because it's full of pointless spectacle, exposition, and dead moments where nothing is going on at all. Shitty Contra only propped up by Mega Drive fanboys.
9b653f No.16286027
>>16286019
>"Shitty Contra"
Trying way too fucking hard, mate.
89d2ce No.16286105
>>16286027
>>16286019
Don't be a Contrarian now.
5a1e80 No.16286128
>>16285228
>Its usually whoever lands the first punch on a persons face.
It's really whoever lands the first good hit. A blow to the torso or a kick to the knee are pretty decisive.
>You wouldnt know it but ive known people that fractured the bottom part of their hand from throwing stupid punches in wrong place on a persons skull.
Can confirm.
ed49a1 No.16286136
>>16285171
Go back to bed, Kotaku.
af005c No.16286144
>>16285101
Soul calibur actually has pretty limited juggles in comparison to most 3d fighting games.
>>16285096
Pretty much this. If you want the ultimate experience of aggression+skill play DMC 345 on dante must die. Please try to get s ranks and don't cheese your way through bossfights either.
af005c No.16286170
>>16285228
>3)The average person has very poor endurance , they gas out and use too much energy in the first couple punches throwing all they can barely move much less dodge getting burnt out from exhaustion.
>
>4)if you're not smart you can easily break your hands. You wouldnt know it but ive known people that fractured the bottom part of their hand from throwing stupid punches in wrong place on a persons skull.
Well in my first fight I lasted about 15-20 minutes of bare knuckle fighting yes we were lightweights though(so the gassing isn't as much of a problem and we don't hit as hard so obviously we have to land more). It's easy to break your hands and damage them on someones skull but honestly you don't really feel the pain unless you break something significant. You would have to punch someone really fucking hard in the crown of their head to actually totally break your fucking hand. People who have legit 1 hit KO power are usually around the middleweight-sup heavy range of mma which is 180 and higher. Most welterweights don't have 1 hit ko power unless your technique is flawless(of which there are only a few actually good ranked fighters in these divisions that rely on technical striking)
Most "Technical strikers" are either very light in the weight category or pretty high. The middleground of fighting which is around the 150-180 mark is dominated by grappling(It's just the nature of the human body)
Scrappy skinny guys can go at it for a while without gassing out usually the people who gas out the most are either people with lots of muscle or lots of fat. The larger you are the more energy you need and the more you also exert. If 2 small people are fighting the outcome could be alot of things I have seen too many streetfights to even be able to make guesses or bets on how things are going to happen when 2 people lock up. The last fight I saw was between 2 blacks on a basketball court probably lasted about 10 minutes of wrestling/punching. This one black guy landed at least 20 shots on top of the other black guys skull and his hand was fine and it's not like he was trained or knew any boxing. You have glass bones or you don't really.
ccf0e4 No.16286174
>>16285248
>Majority of /v/ is niggers
>Not a single Mortal Kombat or any fighting game thread
I have to disagree.
af005c No.16286177
>>16286174
IDK /v/ is probably full of hapas indians turks jews mutts etc. etc. etc. I bet this place is more multicultural than an episode of law and order.
ed49a1 No.16286184
>>16285248
>/v/ is full of niggers
>/v/ is full or women
a3ef02 No.16286521
>>16286009
>tfw the Ys games were the perfect example of this, with most bosses requiring you to attack them while they were attacking you since they rarely had cooldown periods or had very short ones
>tfw the later games went the garbage route of super long cooldown periods between attacks as well as long windup times and attacks that require flash guarding to dodge or waste time backing off to avoid
2a42ae No.16286523
>>16286144
Also regarding DMC, you're free to use items in the same way that you're free to lop off your balls.
3fa8ef No.16286542
>>16286184
There are no girls on the Internet Anon
I'm pretty sure most of us here are Jews though
a3ef02 No.16286566
>>16286542
What most of you are rhymes with bigger.
ca0c1a No.16286583
>>16285171
>he couldn't git gud
d38527 No.16286717
>>16285940
Lost Izalith and Bed of Chaos is the low point of the game and you know it. The part leading up to it though, I like it at least aesthetically. What really makes Dark Souls is the general interconnectivity of the world and its unusual locations. I'd single out New Londo Ruins as incredible atmospherically even with its annoying enemies and it sure isn't the only place. It's also got an interesting combat system, and I like that they generally try for realistic weapons. Also uniquely for games that have level-up, you might become unstoppable damage-wise but it's still very possible to die, and that's sadly a rare trait in some JRPGs. At a certain point fights can become totally one-sided.
>>16285471
Looks pretty suspect. Have some better cat tats.
>>16286109
It cuts deeper than that. The problem is too many think arguing is just throwing key words together. It's endemic on /pol/.
7f6316 No.16286728
>no one said Doom
FUCKING NIGGERS
e7cda0 No.16286747
On baby mode if you want to mash X to win, on critical for killing enemies faster than they kill you.
aa48be No.16286770
>>16286728
because doom is easy
aa48be No.16286774
>>16285471
no its just stomaching i drew by hand and my art skills are shit.
7f6316 No.16286778
>>16286770
So is your mother but we try to keep it civil
d38527 No.16286793
>>16286774
The main problem is the breasts and bra. The bra looks flat and the body underneath also looks strangely shaped. You should probably have started with them nude to really nail their figure and then drawn the clothes over it. Coconut also has bigger breasts than that. Also draw more finer details like spaced thighs, those really help.
>>16286770
Play with -fast though that quickly falls apart with chaingunner knobs because not only do fast monsters relentlessly attack you in that state, they have no delay on wake-up before they will start attacking. You could also try maps/mods that make the game harder.
f724db No.16287150
>>16285090
>>16285096
I personally find this style of gameplay incredibly boring. You end up mashing out the same attacks continuously and only occasionally "react" to some completely predictable enemy break away. If you fully dictate the pace of the fight, there's nothing there's nothing making you change yours. In something like DMC they try and cover this with the style system, get more points by using fancier moves against the punching bags, but all that really does is aggravates my OCD. It doesn't make the fights themselves more fun and challenging, the "challenge" there is fighting yourself which fucking sucks.
Just sitting around waiting for the enemy to use his one counterable attack also sucks. I think the ideal design is for every enemy attack to give you some kind of opening to counter, so mastering the fight is about learning every attack the enemy has and the proper way to turn it to your advantage, and then executing on that.
8c313e No.16287187
>>16286170
Yeah man I'm a pro boxer too.
a3ef02 No.16287203
>>16286728
I'd argue Cacodemons, Chaingunners and Lost Souls break up the pace of Doom a bit too much for aggressive attacks.
dd125c No.16287216
>>16286019
>When you know it's bait but you get angry anyway
8c313e No.16287225
>>16286105
not carlos.jpeg.
YOU HAD ONE JOB
9a687a No.16289022
df668d No.16289461
>>16287225
He got deported, give him a week and he'll be back.
fa9cfb No.16290389
>>16285203
>inb4ing your own post
Pot, meet nigger.
6b5977 No.16292304
97a2e5 No.16307967
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>>16285172
<Dark Souls and Sekiro work how fights ACTUALLY DO.
no
9892cb No.16307989
>>16285171
Git gud is just a copout for people who can't handle criticism of the games they like. All design is 100% good and fantastic and if you have ANY issue with ANYTHING then just
git gud goy
97a2e5 No.16307993
>>16307989
casualshit detected
why dont you buy a stadia while youre at it? help is just a push of a button away
7aea85 No.16307999
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>>16307967
neither of these fencers are acting aggressively - when you git gud at fencing and stop with the defensive shit the fights all last seconds at best - so both of you niggers are wrong
vid related and gankers eternally BTFO
9892cb No.16308004
>>16307993
Hey look, there's one now.
97a2e5 No.16308012
>>16307999
>comparing HEMA to olympic fencing
>posting a segment of a japanese game show, known for being heavily faked for tv
wasted trips
dd125c No.16308026
>>16307989
If any problems you have with the game can be solved by simply improving at it then it's not a legitimate complaint.
7aea85 No.16308037
on topic and off the top of my head
>Devil May Cry 1 and 3
>nier automata
>Metal Gear Rising
musou shit feels this way but doesn't require much skill
>>16308012
i fenced for around 9 years and even if what they did was fake which tbh it probably is - the "non-olympians" are clearly told not to defend their baloon at all my point still stands - a real swordfight lasts seconds and dark souls / sekiro isn't reflective of that.
f61b06 No.16308177
>>16285101
>Soul Calibur
>string combos
>juggle enemies forever
So you've never played it, then.
d1080b No.16308306
Play Deus Ex with Master in Low Tech weapons. Using the Chinese Dragon Tooth sword you will make three letter agencies your bitch.
19e72d No.16308375
>>16285101
>Soul Calibur where you can string combos and juggle enemies forever.
wut
499266 No.16309044
>>16308340
>women are obsessed with black dicks
False, the only women I've ever seen with niggers are 3/10s and lower. Unless said nigger happens to be rich via sports or the music industry but the women hes with would be with a rich old man otherwise, as she is a gold digging whore.
86c749 No.16310652
>>16285090
>Games where you can ATTACK AGGRESSIVELY
Call of Duty (multiplayer).
86c749 No.16310663
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>>16308012
>>16307999
>>16308012
HEMA fights generally are very fast will little successful defense. But they simulate unarmored combat though (and overall simulation of armored combat is a problem)
de1162 No.16311640
I know what you mean OP and was thinking about this some time ago. This is why I mostly didn't get into the Souls games. One example which I'm surprised not many people talk about is the game Dead Cells.
ccc8f3 No.16311702
>>16311684
You posted a bunch of coalburners, how does that prove anything?
fd8a70 No.16311705
>>16308303
Using DS4Windowsfork works for me, make sure Steam isn't conflicting with it.
976eb8 No.16311711
>>16311702
499266 said only uggos fucked black The anons you replied to proved him wrong. It's ok, it's not your fault your race is dying. It's mine :^)
ccc8f3 No.16311716
>>16311711
Jews aren't a race though
ccc8f3 No.16311724
>>16311721
>lists 4 different ethnicities
>implies they are all the same
ccc8f3 No.16311732
>>16311730
>every ethiopian is a jew
be9f18 No.16311737
>all these butthurt fags who are defending their games despite not even being insulted
Souls games are extremely overrated and require mostly just patience to beat. OP wants fast and twitch movement based games that let you go all out at the speed of light.
63e6e2 No.16311746
>>16311737
>require mostly just patience to beat
This i what I've noticed so far. There's lots of rote memorizing going on, but I will say the fights are great fun after you've memorized what needs to be done. I'd imagine a second playthrough of the game would be far more enjoyable than the first.
93d124 No.16311774
>>16311717
You have sources? I always believed whites and blacks breed more outside their race more than any other. Jews more than both.
6991ae No.16311964
>>16307989
>>16285171
>>16308004
>>16285186
>>16285203
>>16285228
Please go back
>>>/resetera/
>>>/4um/
>>>/somethingawful/
Those places will be more receptive to your enjoyment of soy simulators.
5f5be2 No.16311966
>>16285090
I too enjoy ATTACKING AGGRESSIVELY
Shinobi - PS2
You're put on a timer that kills you if you don't constantly kill enemies, you only get points for using your sword, penalizing ranged attacks. Boss fights can only really be completed by comboing underlings and landing finishing blows on the boss.
You don't really get to set the pace as much, I guess. Some of the platforming sucks shit too
7363aa No.16311989
>>16285096
Really any character action game. Hell, Nightmare Before Christmas had a decent playing one.
23ccbf No.16312059
>>16285096
serious question, i heard DMC5 is a beast to run and have been debating on buying the console ver. as i'm not sure my pc can run it properly as it's a laptop….what do you think?
i9-8950hk
GTX1070m
32gb ddr5
i think due to it being a laptop i'm just barely above the recommended requirements, at that point wouldn't the fidelity be the same as the onex or ps4?
15bd95 No.16312097
Furi
Attacking during an enemy guard phase triggers a counterattack that can be parried and used as a Gap to deal additional damage, boosting your attack chains the buff until you're hit and a charged attack can sometimes lead to a guard break and huge damage, it's really fun and rewarding to pull off ultra aggressive assaults
9892cb No.16312143
>>16311964
>SOMEONE CRITICIZED MY GAME G-GIT GUD GO BACK TO REEESETERA GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
6720f6 No.16312147
>>16312059
If you get the denuvo free exe and switch to dx11 you'll probably be fine.
6816a9 No.16312194
>>16285090
Basically every Vanillaware game.
Sure you can just dodge and wait for an opening, but especially on a newgame+ and higher difficulty, where you got all your skills at your disposal, it's all about keeping them chains going. If you're good you can just juggle every boss and kill them in a single combo.
e81b13 No.16312228
TWEWY post game is the most fun combo fest out there and one if the many reasons to hold onto your DS.
3dabb4 No.16312269
No More Heroes. Nothing better than mashing the button to kill everything, with the occasional push B to stun them and do wrestling moves, even on bosses. The icing on the cake is having to move the wii mote, if playing with motion controls as you should in order to kill everything, especially with the sideways move. It feels really fast paced, frantic and fantastic. No More Heroes is one of my favorite games because of that alone.
3dabb4 No.16312396
>>16312337
>>16311774
Also, check these sources. Out of all races, black men are usually the less desirable for women of any race, even black females.
5677b6 No.16332563
DMC is great at this. Especially the 3rd game
afdac5 No.16332584
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>>16311966
Holy Mother of God, what a shitty graphics.
afdac5 No.16332591
This stills the best Arena-Fighter game ever made.
87f5dc No.16333722
You can
AGGRESSIVELY ATTACK YOUR FINGERS
Also i missed the Gunz gamenight. Which server did you fags played in? Or you know any populated and good servers?
ca8d54 No.16334685
>>16312143
>THE GAME FUCKED MY ASS BAD GAME DESIGN NOT MY FAULT BAD GAME NOT MY FAULT
6173e5 No.16336197
>>16332584
Yeah, the graphics and voice acting are on par with House of the Dead but the gameplay itself is enjoyable. It was released in 2002. It would be cool to see a remaster of it
pic not related
e7264e No.16338351
>>16285172
>Dark Souls and Sekiro work how fights ACTUALLY DO
So tell me anon, where is the wrestling? Because you know thats how full armor dudes fight right ?
b3ee49 No.16338358
>>16285101
Maybe you mean TEKKEN7.
2fa618 No.16338363
>>16333722
>there will never be an s4 night since one private server is invite-only and the other one is staffed by lolicatgirl (male)
3dabb4 No.16339133
>>16332591
I was so disappointed with xenoverse shitty fight system compared to BT3. BT3 could only be better with 3v3 in the same arena, changing targets and gangbanging faggots if needed.
>>16333722
If I remember correctly, anon used a modified version of the client since the source code was released or some shit like that. Check the archived thread. https://8ch.net/v/res/16068639.html
868245 No.16347552
>>16311640
>get to higher difficulties, enemy hp increases
>player damage remains the same
>enemies are stunlocked just by attacking
>stand in 1 spot forever just to kill 1 sponged-up enemy who can't do anything back
this game had potential but it gets boring real quick
b03f26 No.16347586
>>16307967
>fencing
>weapons were entirely invented just for this sport
It always amazes me how many morons post here that think they can correct someone only to make themselves look even stupider than the person they replied to.
d66a9e No.16350172
>>16347552
I know what you mean and the recent patches fuck up the game needlessly. They had a perfect thing going but they blew it. Most indie devs can't even nail down controls much less the rest.
4b16ec No.16350487
>>16347586
Lead by example I guess.
d7e4ab No.16350529
>>16307967
this actually looks kinda like ds3 though, extreme footsies and spacing, most attacks that MIGHT be successful being negated by dodging out of the way (though the doges are far more exaggerated in the video game)
437923 No.16350651
>>16286542
anyone have that screencap where a bunch of /pol/acks realized they had Jewish ancestry?
3fac4b No.16350670
>>16312396
>even black females
i have a very hard time believing this
d64431 No.16350733
>>16350651
The cuckchan screencap? I don't have it, but I remember it.
414bed No.16350750
>another day on /v/ where I get to shill ALIEN SOLDIER
VISUALSHOCK! SPEEDSHOCK! SOUNDSHOCK!
NOW IS TIME TO THE 68000 HEART ON FIRE!
8666e4 No.16350775
4da44d No.16350845
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>>16285090
This is nearly any action game once you become great. The exception being bosses that force you to wait. And if said bosses can't even fight back it's pathetic. You can definitely play Seikiro aggressive. If you're backing a humanoid boss into the wall, then that's how you know you're playing very aggressive.
If you want this experience at its finest. Then play fighting games. How aggressive/defensive you can be depends on the game. Arcana Heart 3 and Tatsunoko VS Capcom are very aggressive fighting games.
>>16286747
On critical mode, you're still so OP that you have to go out of your way to handicap yourself to even have a challenge.