c35f57 No.16272668
I believe the world of FOSS is much more underrated than what it tends to look like.
We have games like: 0 A.D., Xonotic, Endless Sky, Hedgewars, Teeworlds, Minetest, The Dark Mod, Rigs of Rods, Neverball, BrowserQuest, Speed Dreams, OpenTTD, OpenArena, Warsow, FreeCiv, Tuxemon, Unknown Horizons, the entire SuperTux series…
Which lib-games do you like vidya-boys?
If anything, post your opinion, and a game I may have missed that's buried in obscurity, but still in active development.
And yes, I'm a Linux user…
0d9ad5 No.16272682
This is the worst freetard thread I've seen in ages.
bed7cf No.16272686
>And yes, I'm a Linux user…
3da21c No.16272697
I'm impressed that many American game devs have started providing native Linux versions of their games.
Now if only Japan would do the same.
>tfw Yakuza native on Linux never ever
882db7 No.16272870
>>16272668
>And yes, I'm a Linux user…
Just get back from the interracial breeding grounds?
a08add No.16272974
>>16272686
>>16272682
>>16272870
I think you got the wrong door. The designated shitting street is two blocks down.
0d9ad5 No.16273051
>>16272974
I also use Linux, you stupid nigger. This is just a shit thread.
f7e614 No.16273559
>>16272974
if several people have to tell you you're a faggot and the thread is shit,
maybe you're a faggot and the thread is shit
also KYS
13489c No.16274424
>>16272697
Who needs native when Wine/Proton gets close enough with DXVK or Gallium 9? We're pulling an EEE move on Win32 and it's glorious to watch!
13489c No.16274428
>>16272668
OP, all you had to do is talk about Open Source games. This didn't have to include any pro or anti Linux autism.
c99b1c No.16274612
Here's my FUCKING AMAZING EXPERIENCE with linux
Step one Downloading a distro. Shitass mirror takes fucking forever to send me the fucking thing
Step two: Burn that shit to a cd
Step three: Try to install it in dual boot (It doesn't fucking work and I have to manually partition shit AGAIN, IN THE FUCKING INSTALLER because ubuntu decides HYUCK HYUCK, THAT PARTITION OCCUPIED WITH WIN 7? I DON'T SEE IT LMAO, WANNA FORMAT YOUR WHOLE DRIVE? XDDD)
Finally get that retarded shit sorted out
Step fucking four: Install Retroarch so I can try out some roms before I actually download any actual linux shit
Seems fucking simple enough
No download
Shitty note that says
"Oh Hey LOL you can't actually download it lmao to install it you have to open command prompt (but is actually called terminal) and enter "sudo apt-dick libretro.debbie wasserman shultz and then type sudo apt update"
Do that shit
Won't fucking boot
Restart ubuntu
Type in password in login
Screen goes black
Login screen pops up again.
REINSTALL UBUNTU AFTER TRYING NINE TOTALLY REAL I SWEAR IT'LL FIX IT ;)))))) tips online
Download Minetest
IT FuCKING CRASHES AGAIN
LOGIN IN SCREEN LOOPS, AGAIN
Shit has the potential to not be shit, but I swear to god this shit was made by faggots that have a distinct erection for SHIT NOT GODDAMN FUCKING WORKING
bed7cf No.16274625
>>16274612
i want to laugh at you but this was pretty much my exact experience with linux as well. if i was ten years younger i would have just cracked my knuckles and figured it out, but goddammit i'm old now man, i want my shit to just werk™
738f53 No.16274633
Certain Fog and smoke effects on Crysis's highest shader settings running on DXVK have a tendency to induce what appears to be GPU power spikes crashing my system with no survivors, even though I have a 650W PSU and my R9 390+FX 8350 shouldn't be capable of going above 550W peak usage.
Is that bad?
c99b1c No.16274642
>>16274625
I get it, I probably should learn to just fix the issue, but I just can't fathom how the actual fuck something as simple as downloading an installer can be a nonfeature.
Or how the fuck installing A FUCKING GAME, could break the login screen making the whole thing unusable.
Like, imagine if you installed solitare or some shit on windows, and then the next time you restarted the computer it was actually impossible to log in.
738f53 No.16274657
>>16274642
>downloading installers
>installers
Your supposed to use you're distro's package manager to install and uninstall shit on GNU/Lunigs, if you want freetard wangbloat get ReactOS or something.
c99b1c No.16274665
>>16274657
Got nothing to smug about Mr. Hi I like to Use an Operating system that has a stroke if you try to play a game on it.
738f53 No.16274694
>>16274665
>I like to Use an Operating system that has a stroke if you try to play a game on it.
Anon do you have a fetish for random Kernel-Power events and forced updates?
c99b1c No.16274703
>>16274694
I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY TETRIS WITHOUT HAVING TO REINSTALL MY OPERATING SYSTEM
IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
I DON'T THINK SO.
738f53 No.16274723
File: 683adaa5541ad29⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 226.12 KB, 960x720, 4:3, Sakuya pats Meiling in a l….mp4)
>>16274703
git clone https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch.git
cd RetroArch
./configure --disable-discord
sudo make
sudo ./fetch-submodules.sh
sudo make install
retroarch
13489c No.16274729
>>16274703
In all fairness, Windows 10 breaks shit too from time to time. And Windows 7 is almost out of time.
13489c No.16274743
The biggest problem with Linux as a gaming platform is backwards compatibility and fucking around with deps in general. I actually will go with Steam over GOG because Steam at least has a runtime to work with for devs.
Ugly a solution as that is, it makes it wo that games from 2013 run on modern Linux distros with minimal hassle.
Now that Snap and Flatpak are a thing, things should get better. It's just a matter of sorting out kinks and getting places like Humble and GOG to adopt one or the other.
cc6305 No.16274753
>>16274729
Yeah but at least Windows 7 will be exactly what you expect it to be once it's dropped. Then you can opt out of paid updates and not have to worry about Microshit fucking your system up ever again with unwanted updates. Plus it's more stable with a lot of stuff right now so it'd still be another 10 years of a slow phase out.
bfadd6 No.16274804
>at long last, migrate to GANOO plus Linocks
>no longer on Bill Gates' XboxOS 10th Edition
>situate myself with most of my essential programs and utilities
>I told myself not to start with Argh Linogs but my autism overcame my better judgement.
>install MAME, create roms directory, add my roms
>run MAME and navigate to the "Available" tab
>nothing
Spoonfeed me please. Also I can just create a symlink to my full ROM collection in my .mame directory so I don't have to pick through games I want right (once I figure out my current problem)?
Besides having to reference documentation for every single step I take, this experience has been LIBERATING. I think my web browser might be my only GUI program and having access to an actually functional command line is great. I am evolving with each passing hour.
13489c No.16274810
>>16274753
And when you can't get replacement parts anymore? And you're not planing to keep this machine hooked up to the internet, I hope.
7d454f No.16274818
>>16274612
I don't even have trouble like this when installing gentoo, which admittedly I end up doing often because I neglect to keep all my machines up to date, then I can't update at all because the kernel is too old.
I certainly have never had problems like that when setting up ubuntu for others.
ab8c15 No.16274831
>>16274804
just put the roms in the .mame/roms folder, and start mame in the .mame folder.
>>16274612
werks on my machine
>>16274703
install emacs
>>16274804
bfadd6 No.16274895
>>16274831
Do you mean run MAME while ~/.mame is my working directory, or that I should have an executable in my ~/.mame directory?
>install emacs
no
ab8c15 No.16274955
>>16274895
mame creates random folders at whatever directory mame is ran in
bfadd6 No.16274987
>>16274955
I ran MAME from the terminal so I assume I was in my home directory by default. Like I was saying, MAME runs fine, it just doesn't recognize my ROMs.
ab8c15 No.16274990
>>16274987
then put the roms in the roms folder
bfadd6 No.16275000
>>16274990
Right, right, I did all that. They're in there with all the required BIOS devices and stuff. The problem is that when I run MAME it doesn't seem to detect them.
ab8c15 No.16275022
>>16275000
did you even unzip the roms mame doesn't require bios files only certain machines do, if you're running it in home directory, make sure the rom folder is in the home directory named roms
bfadd6 No.16275036
>>16275022
>unzipping the roms
I never had to do this in Windows.
My roms are in ~/.mame/roms which I think was automatically made.
ab8c15 No.16275046
>>16275036
add that folder within mame
bfadd6 No.16275048
>>16275036
Hang on, is it supposed to be in /usr/lib/mame?
ab8c15 No.16275054
bfadd6 No.16275077
>>16275054
It works, I get it now. Thanks anon.
7d454f No.16275109
>>16274743
>Snap and Flatpak
there was already an instance of one of these on ubuntu containing an actual bitcoin miner that everyone memes about so much, at least the software repositories have some quality control, but snap and flatpak are completely unchecked
>>16274804
Graphical web browsers have become the bane of my existence, with all the god damn scripts websites need to even show a page because everything is generated on load instead of just being static documents.
Eventually I'll have to stop using a browser for 8ch because there's some script that gets hung up and CPU usage stays at 25% which wont stop on it's own, end up having to close any tab with a thread, then only once the catalog page is loaded can I resume browsing.
ebd23c No.16275187
>>16275109
>t least the software repositories have some quality control, but snap and flatpak are completely unchecked
Obviously firing up Synaptic is what you should do whenever you want to install something, but sometimes what you want to use isn't there. Not everyone wants to hunt for dependencies to compile their game from source.
0d9ad5 No.16275209
>>16275187
>not posting the Tales From Earthsea version
f7fbcc No.16275283
>freetards still struggling with vsync 25 years after proper Linux gaming got started
>video still breaks every upgrade
>sound still has high latency and/or cuts out
>have to modify sysctl.conf to keep heavy disk access from causing games to pause for seconds at a time
>entire OS is prone to locking up while gaming
>fullscreen is begging to freeze the display
>video driver crashes take out the entire machine unlike the much more reliable WINDOWS operating system where it is sandboxed
>freetards still refusing to admit they have not kept pace on reliability, still act like the competition is Windows 95
>redhat still refusing to admit wayland has failed, paying devs to keep pushing that shit uphill rather than start from scratch
>open sores games are either 20 year old source ports of commercial games or shitty and ancient clones like freeciv and wesnoth
>no open sores game ever got past an alpha state of quality before the commits stopped
>games getting attacked and banned from distros by communist trannies for having attractive females
I think it's time to just let it die, gents. Actually, it should be contained and gassed to prevent it from spreading.
ebd23c No.16275300
>>16275283
Linux has always been ass for heavy gaming. That said Linux as a whole shouldn't be completely discarded. Lightweight distros are great for saving extremely shitty computers from complete obsolescence.
0d9ad5 No.16275306
>>16275283
>three or four valid points in that entire spiel
That's impressive for an OPEN SORES :D :D faggot.
f7fbcc No.16275308
>>16275300
>Linux has always been ass for heavy gaming
There was a point where it was legitimately top dog. Quake 1 was faster, better, and *gasp* easier to configure(!) on Linux. All the hardcore types installed it for the edge it provided. You needed several PhDs in computer science to set up networking with B&WTCP in DOS whereas in Linux the only difficult thing you had to deal with was probably having a 7 bit connection that needed a serial emulator.
fd8ee4 No.16275309
>>16272668
Linux is not even worth the hassle of playing games on. There's also the chance the game won't play, will play. Fuck that just have seperate hard drives.
f4797f No.16275317
>>16275308
>*gasp* easier to configure(!)
look fella, i understand that you're probably 60 but please, if you're going to use a community that you didn't help build, try to adopt our standards and practices. shit like this hasn't been wanted on imageboards since 2005.
f7fbcc No.16275322
>>16275317
You're in urgent need of killing yourself, anon. Get on that.
0d9ad5 No.16275324
>>16275317
He's from /tech/. The moderation is basically /tv/-tier now so it's attracting a lot of weird boomers and shitters like the Unix hater fag and self-proclaimed professional programmers who try posting images by pasting Windows file paths into the text box.
f4797f No.16275325
>>16275322
suck my balls you old faggot
57d5ba No.16275326
There's some fucking mad man who is forking OpenMW to make a universal Beth 2006-2011 emulator.
f7fbcc No.16275330
>>16275325
>you weren't here to build this
>but you're old and were probably here to build this
>watch me talk shit about you using code you wrote for me before I was born
You're garbage, anon. Get mad and hit report.
0d9ad5 No.16275336
>>16275330
>talk like a faggot
>get called out on it
>SHUT UP GARBAGE I AM OLDER THAN YOU
>I WROTE YOUR SOFTWARE
If software is like sores, why program or use software at all? Go sit on a tree stump and yell at the dog when he farts.
f7fbcc No.16275356
>>16275336
Well you certainly got mad. That's probably the first thing you've managed to accomplish all day. Baby steps.
ab8c15 No.16275774
>>16275326
>can now play new vegas comfortably
3b26ff No.16275788
Should I be impressed by the amount of people using computers without knowing how to use them? Retards probably also drive a car without knowing how to.
1ccaa7 No.16275818
>>16274428
>CTRL+F: UFO Alien Invasion
>0 result
C'mon, nobody likes doing heavy suppressive fire against mass human sacrificing aylien invaders? That being said I had to restart this gaem again because I made some major fuckup in the midgame where I couldn't make enough progress to keep up against those armored flying speedsters.
>tfw there is no mod for UFO AI that adds in shit tons of russian weapons and vehicles
I really want a marathon like experience where I am being fucking stuck using rusty grandpa weapons that is being used for over several decades such as PPSH salvaged from some bog swamps or having to do some engineering efforts to scavenge some T-34 and having to repair them in the desperate hope to stock up the equipment with a few more gear before going to the mission again where you have to deal with those fancy ass ayy lamo bastards.
a9cda3 No.16275858
Do you guys know of any recent commercial FLOSS games? I mean games which charge money, but at the same time their source code is under a Free or Open Source license. The only one I can think of is Barony.
http://www.baronygame.com/
https://github.com/TurningWheel/Barony
>>16274642
> I want to use B instead of A, but I want B to be exactly like A
1ccaa7 No.16275869
>>16275324
> who try posting images by pasting Windows file paths into the text box.
This fagget? :^). Man why is /tech/ has become much worse than /g/? All I wanted to lurk from that board is just serious programming discussion, instead there is constant non stop unproductive shitposting and the usual programming related wars.
538e73 No.16275871
>>16272697
To be honest, many devs do that (smaller in particular) because common game engines like Unity and Game Maker support exports to Linux. It's a matter of changing the export option and hoping someone can solve problems with more obscure builds or distros.
d91eb0 No.16275872
d8afea No.16275883
>>16275869
This site attracts schizoids for some reason, and they never leave
213dd5 No.16275910
By the way this post was made with fully free software.
>>16274612
I'm feeling like this is a windows shill pinning his experience with windows on shitbuntu.
>>16274804
Scan your directory with ROMs and retroarch will add it to your library.
>>16275300
>Linux has always been ass for heavy gaming
It's another windows user pinning his windows experience on Lignux.
I bet you tried to alt tab or windows locked up after a game hit 100% cpu usage, someone told you to just install some shitty distro like Ubuntu so things work, and after you were too dumb to figure out what a partition is on the installer you decided to make an ashurt post.
>>16275283
95% of these are windows issues or lies, and the other is you shilling for redhat to bring back windows escapees into CIA slavery.
0/10 shilling right there.
02ab97 No.16275915
Posting to mention Zero-k
7f027e No.16275919
>>16275910
D9VK when? Gallium nine is a meme.
60bbc9 No.16275943
I'm considering a migration to Linux since I don't really do much but CAD software has a linux build, vidya, word processors and browse on my homo PC. Two questions
>Mint, Manjaro or Lubuntu?
>What games will I expect to give up and not be able to play them while on Loonix?
57d5ba No.16275946
>>16275872
The guy's called cc9ii, and he's made quite a bit of progress. It's still more akin to loading the files in OpenMW, but it seems to be coming along quite well. Granted, I'm not sure if it's a fork of OpenMW or just the guy trying to port the post-Oblivion games to OpenMW. I want to believe it's a fork, because it sounds better and would make more sense, but I might be wrong.
c7b031 No.16275963
I have a 1080Ti and 7700k - how shit will stuff run with nvidia drivers/ steamworks proton/wine?
c7b031 No.16275966
>>16275963
in 4k i should add
1ccaa7 No.16275984
>>16275943
1st question:
Try the live edition of those distros for a while or use a virtual machine first, then use whatever you like the most. I think it might be better to use one of those ubuntu distros first instead of mint due to packages are a bit more commonly available. With the removal of the recommend package upgrades there is less differences now.
>What games will I expect to give up and not be able to play them while on Loonix?
Those are the following games I could run in either Dosbox, Wine or directly:
Earth 2140-2150 series
S.T.A.L.K.E.R series (mod installers can be bit more difficult such as OGSE)
Spellcross (Dosbox)
KKnD (Dosbox)
Half-Life 1 (Wine/Directly I think)
Max Payne (Wine)
Kingpin life of crime (Wine)
Panzer Elite (Wine)
Unreal Gold and UT99 (Wine)
UFO Aftermath/Aftershock (Wine)
X-Com Apocalypse (Dosbox)
Total Annihilation (Wine)
C&C Generals (Wine)
Tank Arena 1997 (Dosbox)
Serious Sam The First Encounter, The Second Encounter (Wine)
Chaser (Wine)
Rise of Nations gold (Wine)
Axis & Allies (Wine)
Broken in Wine in old/new version:
Dark Reign: The Future of War
Dark Colony
c7b031 No.16275990
>>16275943
https://github.com/mraggi/wineappdb-ratings
this will cross reference your steam lib with wine compatibility ratings - whether or not these are to be deemed reliable I've not had recent experience
c7b031 No.16275994
60bbc9 No.16276008
>>16275984
I see, thank you.
Question about Proton, would it work for pirated/non steam games?
a9cda3 No.16276027
>>16275946
You mean this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/user/cc9cii/
Not to belittle his work, but all he has done is get assets to load. Still quite impressive, but I'm not going to hold my breath for an Open Oblivion yet. (I remember that OpenMW was still in that sort of phase when I first discovered it)
b31a42 No.16276033
>>16272697
I was happy when Tekken 7 came out with a native Linux version, but for some reason the Soul Calibur team are a bunch of lazy scrubs that can't be bothered to do the same. It also feels like freaking forever since we've had a character announcement.
1ccaa7 No.16276047
>>16276008
No problem, I haven't tried proton yet because I haven't exhausted my options yet when trying to run older/different games not listed previously. For me Lutris does most of the time a good job or a better one than PlayonLinux which hasn't gotten a new stable release for ages. With the additions of dosbox support it makes it simpler to use it. Well I think if you can launch proton directly without steam then it should be possible to use it for non steam games.
I have installed only 2 dos games via lutris because I am too much of a lazy bastard to use dosbox directly, fiddling around with wine gives me more than enough trouble than it is actually worth it. My number 1 trouble with Wine is getting the fucking windowed/fullscreen mode to work properly as it tends to fuck up that easily all the fucking time. And now with the dosbox additions I also have the trouble to get the midi music from Spellcross to work yet oddly enough timidity works for me when I use it directly.
If any other anons are interested how to install games manually with lutris that's how I did:
1: Mount the iso files first
2: then create a directory somewhere to dump your dos/wine games into it, if you haven't made it yet of course
3: use the "install game" option and look for the game exe options you want to use the setup exe one first
3.5 wine: make sure the wine prefix folder aka wine root folder such as /home/USER/.wine is used or whatever you have, then use the working directory as your installation folder
3.6: once all of that is set you should be able to install the game now
3.5 dosbox: use whatever default configuration file you have for the game you wish to install, if you have a premade one or something use that one instead, then during installation make sure the working directory is set to your dos folder somewhere such as /home/USER/games/dos/ or something
3.6: once you all setup you can install the game normally now as lutris does the mounting for you
I haven't installed any games via wine and lutris yet because previously I used playonlinux for that. If you are still a bit confused about this installation instruction then ask the questions.
a9cda3 No.16276056
On the topic of PlayOnLinux, have they stopped providing Wine builds? The most recent build I can download from the wine version manager is 3.20. Is there something to do so that it can find more recent builds?
213dd5 No.16276062
>>16275919
Isn't DXVK made in C++?
We all would live better lives if wine wasn't pozzed by C++, and thankfully the developers are aware of that.
1ccaa7 No.16276064
>>16276056
Yeah same here, it doesn't surprise me that it takes ages for them to do any sort of update, after several years of long hiatus they finally made a post that they are still working on updating their program.
86e1d3 No.16276115
What is the current state for GPU hardware? The RX 580 that I have has great driver support, but what about older Radeon hardware? I won't be surprised if Vega support eventually ends up forgotten like the R9 295X2.
213dd5 No.16276138
>>16276115
It's meh. GPU drivers as a whole have always been trash in every platform, linux seems to win out in some cases by being meh.
If you have a novidya GPU, you're mostly stuck with their bad proprietary driver. If your AMD GPU is too old, you're also stuck with either the shitty old free software driver or the even worse proprietary one.
If your novidya GPU is old enough, nouveau can be of passing quality, if your AMD GPU is recent, the free software AMD drivers are decent. If you have intel, their driver support for their whole hardware range is also decent.
If you have a VIA GPU (why?), the drivers at least have some very basic X acceleration and nothing else.
After that there's S3 and Matrox GPUs on the desktop, but I haven't tried those.
13489c No.16276213
>>16275109
The fact that Canonical is inept isn't a problem for Flatpak. Which is what'll probably win the format mini-war anyway.
13489c No.16276220
>>16275300
OpenGL was and is a shit. And until recently, the OpenGL drivers on Linux (outside of Nivdia's blob) were a shit, which compounded the problem.
Now though, we have Vulkan slowly replacing OpenGL in games and the Mesa drivers for AMD are actually pretty decent.
13489c No.16276228
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16276027
He's also working on physics and facegen. And he's not the only one working on getting newer games to run either. He's just the only one posting YT videos to demo everything.
And remember lads, OpenMW was a moon shot. Going from Morrowind to Oblivion is actually going to be a smaller leap, even if it will take years.
13489c No.16276236
>>16275774
You can do that already in Proton (just turn mouse acceleration off).
0d9ad5 No.16276317
>>16275869
>Man why is /tech/ has become much worse than /g/?
It's mostly the moderation not giving any shits whatsoever. They barely backed the existing userbase during several /g/ migrations and took ages to do basic shit like cracking down on namefags. Fags like the blackpill spammer and actual spammers go completely unchecked, duplicate threads remain up, and there's loads of weird glow-in-the-darks telling everyone how great CP is or even posting links to it, which the moderators only take action against if you remind them that leaving CP links up can get your board taken away.
Libbie was old /tech/'s final hurrah before the cuckchanners, boomers, and pedoniggers fucked everything up.
That Ada poster was actually okay-ish outside that one fuckup, but he definitely needs to lurk more. The Unix hater fag, on the other hand, is often downright dishonest and follows pic related like a manual. The sad part is that he's actually right sometimes but thanks to him being a massive, obnoxious (and often off-topic) identityfag everyone outside a small circle of followers automatically dismisses anything he says.
>>16276220
>and the Mesa drivers for AMD are actually pretty decent
They're definitely better than AMD's OpenGL drivers on Windows and less likely to break in retarded ways than Nvidia's drivers. I'll wager that most /v/ anons whose Linux installations break use Nvidia cards.
95888d No.16276345
>>16276213
I wanna impregnate Libbie
13489c No.16276354
>>16276345
We all do, anon. But focus.
95888d No.16276360
>>16276354
My focus is on impregnating that goat woman I know what I'm doing
13489c No.16276368
>>16276360
S-stop lewding the meme goat from 2017 anon!
95888d No.16276370
>>16276368
the only meme I see here is you anon
1ccaa7 No.16276372
>>16276354
Focus on what? Will libbie come over to my house and teach me programming?
95888d No.16276376
0d9ad5 No.16276382
>>16276370
Maff is superior for lewding anyways.
>>16276372
Close, but she's an office lady so she'll teach you LaTeX and GNU Troff
13489c No.16276383
>>16276370
This the first board you pop into?
95888d No.16276386
>>16276382
I don't know what this is but I wanna fug it
13489c No.16276391
File: 04b6cca31ae5a41⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 532.58 KB, 1168x1494, 584:747, b86bf36b2f0c9911035fbc177d….png)
>>16276382
>maff
Yeah, that's the model for lewds. White Libbie is for pure.
13489c No.16276392
>>16276386
You missed out on a fun happening a couple years ago then.
1ccaa7 No.16276394
>>16276376
What a shame.
>>16276382
>100 black
>LaTeX and GNU Troff
welp
95888d No.16276397
>>16276392
No I was around for the happening I just missed a bunch of the art and my desire to fug this has never gone away
>>16276394
The only shame is how I can't afford to teach you how to code in person
13489c No.16276404
>>16276397
I have the archive still. I might upload it all to some booru one day.
1ccaa7 No.16276405
>>16276397
It's alright anon, there is just some other "things" I have to keep care for now which I wish to not get into details of it too specific, its anyway no use if nothing motivates me now.
9b8cd1 No.16276413
>>16276354
>tfw no sexually liberated libbie to femdom me
733b9a No.16276419
>>16276228
Yeah, OpenMW right now has almost perfect Morrowind playability and, as slow as they are (why the fuck do they delay releases because their video guy broke his PC a millionth time), at this point pretty much nothing can stop them from reaching 1.0. My problem currently is MWSE compatibility - I heard they plan to do an alternative in Lua or something and they had a pretty big argument with an MWSE developer over the direction of MWSE compatibility, but a lot of mods were made in MWSE and I don't know if they'll ever make those mods compatible with OpenMW or if they plan to encourage modders to make mods for OpenMW exclusively or something. As of right now, MWSE+MGE are still the dominant option for Morrowind players, which might only change if OpenMW will offer something more than that (TES3MP being one of them, but only one right now) or if the vanilla engine will utterly croak under Project Tamriel/Tamriel Rebuilt, depending on the progress of those mods sometime in the future.
I'd love to play New Vegas completely unrestricted by engine limitations, but by the time OpenMW or a fork gets there, the modding scene will probably enter a long stagnation period before resurging, like Morrowind between Oblivion and Skyrim.
95888d No.16276421
>>16276404
Just upload the archive of the gote slut
>>16276405
rip
>>16276413
Cowgirl is as far as you should ever let a woman go for "femdom" anon
13489c No.16276426
>>16276413
I like that all this time later, the goat lady can still derail /tech/'s /v/ threads…
95888d No.16276432
>>16276426
A decent looking 2D woman can derail most /v/ threads this has never changed.
13489c No.16276434
>>16276421
Check back here tonight I guess. I'll split it up into mixtapes.
95888d No.16276436
>>16276434
there's THAT much art?
Holy bejesus
0d9ad5 No.16276439
95888d No.16276445
>>16276439
well now I wanna impregnate the gote even more
13489c No.16276448
>>16276436
It comes to about half a gig. There was a LOT of OC for a rather obscure happening.
83e656 No.16276452
>>16274612
>hey I'm going to switch from windows to a linux distro
>but I'm not going to bother learning how they are different or how to actually use linux
>I'm just going to immediately try to install a game and expect it to work like how windows does
>oh no, something fucked up because I'm a retard who didn't bother trying to learn how to do shit on this different OS
>the OS must be terrible
95888d No.16276459
>>16276448
People like cute girls even goat girls
>>16276452
I ran Ubuntu on a really old computer and it ran fine I dunno why people complain about linux is workes pretty well
13489c No.16276473
13489c No.16276475
>>16276459
Whoops.. Anyway, yeah, I get WHY she's popular with /tech/.
95888d No.16276532
>>16276475
>>16276475
Them's some fat thighs
9b8cd1 No.16276539
>>16276421
B…but,
I want to lick her hooves while she programs
95888d No.16276541
>>16276539
that's pretty gay
7f0f81 No.16276733
>>16275943
Manjaro is Arch for newbies. I've always shilled it because it's pretty good. Use it and once you've got enough experience install Arch or an Arch-based distro without systemd (like Artix), or go ahead and make the jump to Gentoo (Calculate Linux is Gentoo for newbies if you're interested in that).
As for games, check Wine's website an look for each game or program you are interested in running. It will tell you how well it runs based on other users' tests (don't run anything below silver or gold rating, it's gonna suck dick) and if you need to tweak something in order for it to run (like installing a patch, etc). But keep in mind that wine is mostly hit-and-miss, at least from my experience. A lot of shit runs flawlessly but others refuse to work unexplicably.
Also, there's Lutris and PlayOnLinux which could help you manage your wine programs.
60bbc9 No.16276836
>>16276733
Can I ask what systemd or why I would avoid it? I picked those distros because I heard they were pretty light weight.
d8afea No.16276848
>>16276115
Are you too much of a retard to understand the difference between a single-gpu card and a double-gpu card?
0d9ad5 No.16277002
>>16276539
Huh, I thought I was the only one.
>>16276733
I use Void Linux and it's pretty decent as a rolling release, non-systemd distro. My only complaint is that the installer doesn't support disk encryption so you have to set that up manually.
>>16276836
On Unixlike systems, the init system is the first process that starts when your OS boots up, spawns all other processes, deals with orphaned processes, and handles system shutdown. The legacy System V init was kind of fat and clunky, so people worked on a variety of replacements and unfortunately Lennart Poettering's (the retarded soy goblin behind PulseAudio) systemd was the one that caught on for complicated reasons.
What's wrong with systemd? Everything, but that's really tl;dr. Basically, the developers shill it by pretending it's the only non-SysV init out there except for Upstart, stuffing unrelated existing projects like logind and udev into systemd in hopes of locking people into their shit, and calling people who don't like systemd trolls, anti-progress, sexist, and racist. The codebase and design philosophy are a complete clusterfuck with retarded security vulnerabilities popping up regularly and Lennart Poettering generally making an ass of himself.
Here's the thing: the average /v/fag who just wants something familiar-ish to play vidya on won't be bothered by systemd much. If you actually want to understand your operating system or really get into Linux, systemd is this giant, complicated blob standing in your way and you're much better off trying a systemd-free distro, which often have useful characteristics and features aside from lacking systemd.
a9cda3 No.16277034
>>16276459
>I ran Ubuntu on a really old computer and it ran fine I dunno why people complain about linux is workes pretty well
Because people expect GNU/Linux to be the same as Windows. The differences are more than just skin-deep, but people are so used to what they know, that they consider something different to be broken.
Windows is like a run-down house, everywhere mold is growing, it reeks of decay even from the outside and the interior is a biohazard zone. Eventually you decide that there is no way of cleaning it out, so you burn the whole thing down and build a new house. Everything is clean, simple (yes I know, bear with me) and it's a good home finally. Then the inhabitants of the old house want to move in, but they start screeching at you autistically because the new house is completely different from the old one. That shit-filled bucket next to the bedroom that made you throw up in the old house? It belongs there, don't you dare getting removing it. The only way to get them to shut up is to run down the new house just like the old one was.
d91eb0 No.16277047
>>16275946
>cc9ii
He's one of the main OpenMW devs, if it's a fork it's just his personal development fork.
Considering that OpenMW already has compatability with other beth games as one of the goals It's probably not going to be a complete fork off.
1a029e No.16277126
>>16276452
I mean, if he's serious about it. That is a pretty catastrophic fuck up as far as an operating system goes. Installing a game and it breaks a system part like the log-in.
13489c No.16277132
>>16277047
The older OpemMW devs (Zeni, Scrawl, ect) didn't want to do Oblivion. It's mostly the new comers adding support for newer games.
0d9ad5 No.16277140
>>16277034
Part of the problem is that Windowsfags are used to their OS completely hiding how it actually works under the hood, and Linux's desktop environments usually cater to this instead of being closely tied to how the system actually works. When something doesn't work immediately the Windowsfag does a quick web search, expecting some arbitrary voodoo ritual which may or may not work, and gives up in exasperation if it doesn't. He doesn't realize that despite being less consistent than other Unixlike OSes, Linux is far less arbitrary under the GUI than Windows and generally easier to troubleshoot even when you're dealing with clusterfucks like pottteringware, GTK+, or anything related to Nvidia.
a9cda3 No.16277354
>>16277132
I think the original reason against Oblivion was to keep the project focused on its primary goal: Morrowind compatibility. And I have to applaud Zini for that, if it wasn't for his strict rules the project would have ended up in a mess where everyone works on his little pet ideas instead. With the primary goal in reach it is possible to gradually add support for other formats and de-hardcode the engine. That can be of benefit to Morrowind as well.
>>16277140
I don't really see a problem with the desktop environments. I can set up Ubuntu for my parents, hand it to them and they will be fine with it.
I don't remember where I read it, but there is this phenomenon where the best users are those who either have very little computer knowledge and those who have a lot. The ones with little knowledge will be content to just have the basic things work, and those with a lot of knowledge can obviously make things work for them. However, those who have medium knowledge are the worst, because they are so arrogant that they think that they know all there is to know.
ccf876 No.16277407
>>16274612
I want to be honest, as much as I'd like to switch to a linux distro my experiences with it have always been terrible, even on Mint, which admittedly is pretty easy to use, anything past basic shit is really unintuitive and prone to error.
>no drivers for anything so laptop would always be missing touchpad and bluetooth functionality
>randomly stopping dead in its tracks, took me forever to see if it was the hard disk failing or the distro itself, and in the end I am still none the wiser
>randomly crashing while writing down documents
>dependencies out the ass for literally anything, can't even run some small programs at times (f.lux comes to mind)
>This is probably all on me but I've never been able to tell where any of my updated packages went before, during and after the download and after the installation
>For some reasons that are beyond me, Firefox (I know "I fell for the mozilla meme" and all but older versions have a lot of neat plugins and customization that I can't find elsewhere as easily) would never work properly, regardless of what I was doing or which version I used
>I would get random "gnome" errors at shutdown, and to this day I have no idea why and why would this happen on multiple machines
>The UI browsers all have lag and/or keep doing retarded shit like taking forever to resize (inb4 specs no shit)
>Too many times it would require administrative rights to dick with the system files, in theory this is really great but also not really because there's way too much stuff that requires it and it becomes really tedious to keep track of what needs to be able to execute or write to certain files or folders and the only way to find out is to hope some other dickhead at (((Stack Overflow))) had the same problem and was corageous enough to ask for an answer
>Most guides I've found are nebulous at best, they do instruct you on the basic shit you can figure out on your own but everything else they just let you destroy your own shit with no guidance
>Like this anon said, at least as far as (((Ubuntu))) and Mint are concerned, you need to keep on partitioning and modifying shit with your hard drives for reasons unknown, other than "it just works like that trust me goy"
>Green Is My Pepper a shit
I'll say this though, the tools you can find and use on distros are fucking awesome when you find that particular gem that does exactly what you needed to do, also command line editing and browsing is so much comfier when you have to sift through plenty of documents, not exactly that good for pictures or any other human readable media though. W7 debloated, un-telemetrized and overall tinkered around with will forever be the best OS (XP was also great but it's dead now).
Though by all means, change my mind, I'm not some kind of shitposter who'd go around making ludicrous claims without giving a chance to whomever wants to challenge my views. Also the other anon is a dum dum for not using an usb pen stick to install his version (and in general to keep around whenever a computer dies and you have to do some quick salvaging).
Also, what tools do you like the most? I was playing around with ddrescue but I'm not sure if I am understanding it properly.
d8afea No.16277425
>>16277407
Sometimes I wonder what crimes against God's mercy you people have committed to have experienced this kind of stuff, for me it's been nothing but a breeze and I started with Ubuntu back when it used Gnome 2, 8.something I believe
372523 No.16277507
>>16277407
I'd totally get that car if it's free.
>>16277490
I guess it's just a matter of experience.
I think this site might help you both in picking out your distro. It's one of the best sites for Linux reviews. At least it did wonders for me:
https://www.dedoimedo.com/
ab8c15 No.16277511
>>16277490
good thing i had a great linux experience, everything was so comfy and every problem was solved by simply thinking about the problem and the user experience isn't there because I had to make it my own, and listening to other people, lmao think for yourself for once.
>>16277507
>recommending that retard
LOL
2e8380 No.16277580
>>16274612
Try manjaro.
It actually works and has a reasonable repository.
I know exactly the situation your in, i tried lincucks mint at one point and my Xsession just fucking died and cinnamon wouldn't load at all (black screen)
The helpful community suggested a whole numerous amount of unhelpfull information on the matter and one dumb fuck even just suggested reinstalling the entire system.
That was retarded so i just installed manjaro and everything just werked.
2e8380 No.16277588
>>16276459
>old computer
this is why, ubuntu is always 100 thousand lightyears behind anything recent.
372523 No.16277643
>>16277588
If anything, it's a poor choice for old computers.
You could accomplish 1000x better results with MX Linux, Manjaro XFCE or Linux Lite today.
I'm glad people are interested in FOSS again, because it requires dedication and commitment to beat Windows and it's 85% Monopoly.
bfadd6 No.16277651
>>16275910
Not using RetroArch. Also solved the problem.
>>16277407
I will say about guides that there's a lot of very knowledgeable people who seem willing to help, but either take for granted what a new user might not know, or just aren't good teachers. It's the new user's responsibility to read the documentation and make the necessary research to familiarize themselves with a new system, but guidance is nice to have as well. I get the feeling that people that are proficient with computers don't always have the same intuitions about sharing their knowledge with new users.
ebd23c No.16277668
>>16277580
For me it was the opposite, I first tried Manjaro and had problems like the distro not recognizing my shitty laptop's trackpad and stuff. Tried Mint and it worked flawlessly. This is why there isn't a perfect distro for everyone and you always should try a few. That said Mint wasn't that fast even with XFCE so I switched to MX Linux and for me it's much faster and it also doesn't use systemd by default. Everything is working perfectly so far.
0d9ad5 No.16277694
>>16277407
When was the last time you tried Linux? I've experienced almost none of this, not even years ago on toasters. Granted, I've never used bluetooth for anything and trying to use MTP without gvfs is a bitch but that's supposedly because MTP is a clusterfuck.
>dependencies out the ass for literally anything, can't even run some small programs at times (f.lux comes to mind)
Use Redshift, faggot.
>I would get random "gnome" errors at shutdown, and to this day I have no idea why and why would this happen on multiple machines
The gnome project is a clusterfuck.
>The UI browsers all have lag and/or keep doing retarded shit like taking forever to resize (inb4 specs no shit)
If you're talking about file managers taking a while to load folders, try setting up thumbnail caching or something.
>>16277490
>>16277511
>pol
>calls other people reddit
lurk moar
1ccaa7 No.16277706
>>16276317
> The Unix hater fag, on the other hand, is often downright dishonest and follows pic related like a manual.
uhh you mean like he debates like a jew or he is trying to "combat jews" according to this short excerpt?
>It's mostly the moderation not giving any shits whatsoever. They barely backed the existing userbase during several /g/ migrations and took ages to do basic shit like cracking down on namefags. Fags like the blackpill spammer and actual spammers go completely unchecked, duplicate threads remain up, and there's loads of weird glow-in-the-darks telling everyone how great CP is or even posting links to it, which the moderators only take action against if you remind them that leaving CP links up can get your board taken away.
Yeah thats pretty much my overall impression of /tech/ that I have while I tried to lurk on that board on and off again for several months in the hopes it might get better, but so far it doesn't get better at all. It made me confused why some of those /tech/ poster are telling other poster they should go back to /g/ when the over state of this board is awfully bad. Though I forget those types of context and actually does make sense. I did looked at 8chins /g/ board for shit and giggles and its almost the shame shit ironically enough I think. It makes me wonder where the fuck should one go look for general programming threda instead like the programmers equivalent of agdg? I know the /prog/ board exist but I'm not so sure about if its a good idea to post there much more frequently for a uh pet project or smallish project. I find it pretty sad that a small board such as /tech/ is in this state right now, I kinda excepted there would be more serious discussion going on or something.
>That Ada poster was actually okay-ish outside that one fuckup,
Oh so its a different one? wew, actually yes you are right because the C hater poster would feature a minimum of a quote in form of a [code] formating.
0d9ad5 No.16277801
>>16277706
>uhh you mean like he debates like a jew or he is trying to "combat jews"
The former. He cares less about honesty than sounding authoritative and making Unix look bad, but through this comes across as such an annoying faggot that most anons treat his posts as white noise clogging up threads.
>Oh so its a different one? wew, actually yes you are right because the C hater poster would feature a minimum of a quote in form of a [code] formating.
He claims to like Ada but based off that one time he tried posting in an Ada thead I don't think he knows much about the language. He said some vague words of praise and spent the rest of his post screeching about C and Unix.
a9c2aa No.16277804
>>16274612
> you can't actually download it lmao to install it you have to open command prompt (but is actually called terminal) and enter "sudo apt-dick libretro.debbie wasserman shultz and then type sudo apt update"
ccf876 No.16277822
>>16277425
Yeah that's what I'm saying, I have no doubt in my mind this should be much, much easier to run, yet every time I give it a go I just wish I didn't. Must be the karma.
>>16277490
>elitist redditors telling you how you should do everything and how you are constantly wrong and also racist
Oh yeah, the gnu community, or gnumity. I just don't get it, like, it's really great they are able to do the things they do but does it kill them to give some sort of guidance? I'm not asking for the solution as is, just give me some of it. Doesn't help that, again, any time I've had some kind of weird error I had to fix it with a workaround as asking people about it gave me mostly empty responses, because I suspect they had no idea about it either. Literally one time I had to use some functionality that allowed me to send a gajillion packets to test the connectivity of some thinkpad for a group project and I legit had to install five different versions of the base OS until I found one that didn't die after an hour of testing.
>>16277580
Thank you a lot
>The helpful community suggested a whole numerous amount of unhelpfull information on the matter and one dumb fuck even just suggested reinstalling the entire system.
I got told to dump log after log of worthless system information until someone just told me that the solution wasn't in there anyhow.
>>16277651
I hope that's the case, I don't want to think everyone using it is that much of a shitter.
>>16277694
Couple of months ago, general purpose, hard drive LOOKS LIKE it's failing but on winbloats it works fine. I am unable to cope with this.
2bea27 No.16277859
>>16277801
>>16277706
>>16276317
>>16275869
>>16275324
>>16275317
Speaking of niggermonkeys in /tech/, I also add the degeneracy present on /n/, that board is shat up with strange reddit spacing, crazy ramblings, disgustingly obvious derailing and slide threads and what not. One thread it was 2 retards chittering back and forth about some cats for like 30 posts straight.
bfadd6 No.16277861
>>16277694
>f.lux
>Use Redshift, faggot.
>not just lowering the blue levels in your monitor settings manually
2bea27 No.16277877
>>16277861
In some monitors, even when you set the blue to zero, you can still see it.
ebd23c No.16277880
>>16277861
But monitors won't change the blue levels automatically depending on the time and position of the sun.
0d9ad5 No.16277905
>>16277822
If you were worried about hard drive failure, I'm surprised they didn't tell you to run some tests with smartctl. Not all hard drives give S.M.A.R.T. warnings before dying but it's still useful when it works.
>>16277880
I just set redshift to the reddest possible setting and turn it on manually in the evening.
2bea27 No.16277911
>>16277407
>>16277861
>>16277880
>>16277905
If you use a rooted (((android))) device, you can download and use the CF.lumen app, which can set the light levels to truly red, 0 blue at all, in contrast with (almost) all of the other apps.
13489c No.16277950
>>16276317
>Libbie
The whole Libbie happening was a once in a decade kind of thing. Juuust the right kind of autism got poured out into the mix at just the right time.
It was truly gay and pointless what LO did, but I'm actually glad they wanted to give a laptop to some poo for PR with a fake contest as a cover. My only regret is they were not stupid enough to try a reboot of the contest.
770272 No.16277952
What a faggy OP holy shit.
That said stuff has been working pretty good for me, from Blood on a changed EDuke32 build to Vulkan and even a Dx11 game it's running pretty solid.
>>16275943
From those three I'd suggest Lubuntu because Mint is more or less trying to be Windows and Manjaro is bloated with tacked on "helper" stuff that will obfuscate too much of the system and that will bite you in the ass should something fail down the line.
>>16276008
>Question about Proton, would it work for pirated/non steam games
Neither WINE nor Proton actually care about what they run so in principle they should run and you can get a stock Proton instance for non steam stuff.
The part that is most likely to fuck you over with pirated games are the custom installers or unpackers like FitGirl provides.
>>16277822
>Couple of months ago, general purpose, hard drive LOOKS LIKE it's failing but on winbloats it works fine.
Problem is that Windows can be rather silent about stuff like this, last I checked win7 will not notify you of HDD warnings and quite frankly what you describe sounds more like an issue with graphic drivers. Try checking the SMART status of the HDD
13489c No.16277967
>>16277490
Flatpak mostly fixes this. We just need to get themes sorted.
>>16277668
Manjaro is a tad overrates like Arch itself.
13489c No.16277970
2bea27 No.16277982
>>16277952
Unpack the installers.
13489c No.16277994
>>16277952
I'd say LMDE is worth a try before you go to straight Debian from *buntu though.
770272 No.16278033
>>16277982
Ah you are right I forgot about that, not sure how well that works with repacks though considering they might pull some non conventional stuff to get the size down.
>>16277994
Possibly, I am actually rather conflicted on if I should tell people to go for the setup I find most sensible and accomodating by being less complex or a full bloated DE to naturally get new users annoyed so they want to switch themselves.
Artix lxqt iso should also be a nice start though pretty ugly at the start
8511cc No.16278080
SuperTux is actually pretty fun to play online. I really enjoy it.
13489c No.16278105
>>16278033
Like it or not, Debian and fam have the best support. Lots of 3rd-party packages (too many) still use the .deb format for Linux. I mean, I'd rater Appimage than just a .deb in this day and age.
8511cc No.16278116
I've been on Linux since early January and I'm not going back to Windows.
Got tired of being held hostage by Microsoft's Windows 10 since I have a Ryzen. That piece of shit system is so unstable I had to reinstall it randomly every 2 months or so, and I can't afford that.
Linux has usually takes longer to setup and troubleshoot when you want to do something new, but once that's done, you are good forever.
During this time I've been playing CS:GO, DotA2 and Toontown Rewritten.
I sometimes boot into an old HDD I have to play specific games when using w10, which so far has been Beatsaber twice a month, Yakuza 0 which I already beat and recently Sekiro.
2bea27 No.16278127
>>16278116
Change the OS of that HDD to windows 7 or so for less spying.
d8afea No.16278128
>>16278116
It seems odd for volvo not to put effort into making sekiro playable through proton
0d9ad5 No.16278155
>>16278128
>>16278116
ProtonDB claims Sekiro runs decently enough.
a9cda3 No.16278205
>>16277651
>I will say about guides that there's a lot of very knowledgeable people who seem willing to help, but either take for granted what a new user might not know, or just aren't good teachers.
It's the latter. Being in a bubble of like-minded people numbs you to the fact that not everyone is familiar with your field. Having documentation is good, but you also need to point people in the right direction instead of dumping a bunch of manpages on the them.
bfadd6 No.16278245
>>16278205
It seems applicable to many things. Experienced users/practitioners/players/etc. forget what it was like to be new. Consequently, it becomes harder for them to distinguish whether someone is just fumbling around because they're new, or if they're incompetent.
28d726 No.16278347
>>16274633
>Is that bad?
Having your system repeatedly trigger OCP is fairly bad
>my R9 390+FX 8350 shouldn't be capable of going above 550W peak usage.
Consider everything else in the system and the fact that the rating is for all rails and you could be exceeding the limits of one rail without going over the rated total wattage.
Consider that some cheaper PSUs will be overrated and age badly (aka lose the ability to deliver the rated wattage over time)
2e8380 No.16278382
>FOSS thread
>niggers talking about butts
>retards praising volvo for undermining native ports
>very little to no FOSS game discussion
I came into this thread expecting this and yet i'm still disappointed
c99b1c No.16278393
>>16277804
I can run a command line just fine. My issue is when I put in a sequence of commands correctly and the software decides, you know, fucking Drive/importantshit/makeyourentirecomputerwork.fuck needs to be fucked with.
13489c No.16278394
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16278382
Alright, anon. Here is a decent FOSS game that hardly anyone talks about:
13489c No.16278400
>>16278382
And did you hear Wesnoth AND Wurmsun are moving to the Godot engine?
2e8380 No.16278407
>>16278400
I believe that wesnoth was only an experimental port.
13489c No.16278415
>>16278407
Nope. The next release will be the last one using the old C++ spaghetti engine. Wyrmsun, on the other hand, is making part of its engine into a Godot plugin.
13489c No.16278422
>>16278415
I'm just hopeful that moving to Godot generates some attention for both of these projects. I'd love to see all the sprites in Wesnoth animated.
c99b1c No.16278424
By the way.
What's reactOS like these days? Is it usable off of a VM?
13489c No.16278438
>>16278424
Right now, there's not a lot you can run in it that can't also run in GNU/Wine32.
c99b1c No.16278444
>>16278438
If it can do Krita Diablo 2 and some old games, it's good enough for me
13489c No.16278452
Speaking of Diablo, Flare had its 1.0 awhile back:
https://youtu.be/OLrUYYulcss
13489c No.16278453
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16278452
Fucked the embed:
000000 No.16278457
>>16275283
>sound is shit
Install OSS drivers you stupid faggot.
>vsync
You don't need vsync bloat if you run wayland as it mathematicaly garuntees you won't get tearing.
>muh GPU updates
Stop using proprietary software you soychine. Is that even possible?
b8135d No.16278482
Besides expecting your games to be free like a communist, why exactly do you care if the game is open source? None of you are ever going to even look at the source code let alone modify it and compile a new version.
c99b1c No.16278487
>>16278482
Is he retarded?
c5475b No.16278508
What's the purpose of running open source software if
>your bios is closed source
>your microcode is closed source
>your hard-drive controller firmware is closed source
>your video bios is closed source
>your keyboard firmware is closed source
>your mouse firmware is closed source
>your disc drive firmware is closed source
And etc.
Why do people purposefully use badly designed software to fit into some niche cliche?
If want a GOOD open source OS that actually respects your cleanliness, download TempleOS.
13489c No.16278519
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>>16278482
Games like the Dark Mod exist because Doom 3 was Open Source. It's also the ultimate way to preserve games.
0d9ad5 No.16278520
>>16278482
Free as in freedom != free as in free beer, faggot. The assets don't have to be free either, the important part is the code.
> None of you are ever going to even look at the source code let alone modify it and compile a new version.
I have.
>>16278508
TempleOS won't fix that either.
13489c No.16278526
>>16278508
>having a dick in your mouth is just as bad as having one in every orifice
If you say so.
efa6dc No.16278533
>>16278508
>he uses a proprietary laptop
Get a load of this goy. I bet you use a proprietary phone too.
TempleOS has literally no protection from outside influence so even Terry states you should use it as an offline system and use some other OS for your actual internet needs
13489c No.16278552
>>16278533
I wonder what kind of games a libreboot'd X200 could run…
c71634 No.16278585
FOSS should be good. there's no reason there couldn't be a free RTS and FPS that beat Broodwar and Overwatch. but there's no reason Gnome couldn't be better than Windows, right? The problem is Boston ppl like RedHat and others who sabotaged the entire stack from the desktop look and feel to the display server to the init system for a combination of waving their dicks around and chopping their balls off.
311781 No.16278589
>>16275818
Rather difficult to find motivation to play this when the regular X-Com series exists. They get kudos for what they're doing but this game is just an utter eye sore, I'd rather have simple sprite graphics than these depthless 3D ones.
13489c No.16278602
e73a9f No.16278613
>>16274703
Download higan and the ROM.
Way easier and better than windows for me.
Also I just beat Tetris Attack last week after years without playing it, no joke.
>>16274743
Things are way better today than late 2016.
>>16278155
I did so on windows because I let my little brother use it to play games when I'm away, and I don't want him browsing through my Linux distro.
b8135d No.16278619
>>16278519
Preserving it after it's natural lifetime is a valid point, but Minecraft and Elder Scrolls games are probably the most modded games on the planet yet none of them are open source.
13489c No.16278643
>>16278619
>none of them
One is, and it's looking like the others will follow. Hell, ES6 is STILL going to be using the Gambryo fork Beth has been riding for a human generation.
7d454f No.16278688
>>16278619
One of the reasons minecraft is modded at all is because java is rather easily decompiled, the problem comes from mapping all the methods and variables, otherwise you have one big jumbled mess of unnamed shit that you have to gradually decipher by making small changes and testing, over and over and over again.
83e656 No.16278692
>>16278482
You know how the original Doom has all these source ports, mods, and total conversions? That wouldn't have happened, to such a great extent, had its source code not been released.
>>16278619
Minecraft is so modded because Java code can be easily decompiled and modified without the source code getting explicitly released. TES, III and onward, kept releasing gimped versions of Beth's own tools, and their engine was designed in a way that explicitly made modding much easier than in most games.
13489c No.16278720
>>16278692
I'm just slightly concerned that Beth's ire is going to be raised at the OpenMW project now that important devs are actively (and publicly) working on more recent games.
It'd be one thing if it was just Oblivion, but the main thing they've been showing off is Skyrim assets loading into the engine.
c5475b No.16278735
>>16278526
It is because you're still a faggot either which way.
Having either 6000 jews or 700000 in your country bad either way.
>>16278533
Dumb ass. Only Purism open sources their bios. All the things I've just listed still exist.
13489c No.16278740
>>16278735
Having LESS of a bad thing is always preferable to having MORE of it.
de8abb No.16278875
>>16278602
Seconded. Who needs remakes when you can get the real thing on roids
de8abb No.16278888
>>16278415
This, this is cool. I like Godot.
bfadd6 No.16278902
>>16278735
Epic though process.
>we can't have it all so we shouldn't have anything
>it will never be flawless so we shouldn't try in the first place
>I stepped in dog shit, I may as well get down and lap the rest of it up, but not before smearing it across my body
9b8cd1 No.16278906
Why don't more indie devs release their games source? It doesn't actually prevent them from selling it and most of them are DRM free anyway. I'm sure people would still pay rather than compiling the binary themselves, in the same way people still pay for DRM free games even though you only have to jewgle a torrent to get the binary.
13489c No.16279035
>>16278888
Apparently, them digits do too.
f6df50 No.16279060
>>16278508
>>16278735
There's an old saying that's used a lot in software development: "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good."
f6df50 No.16279092
>>16279072
>Faggy unixism
It predates Unix by several hundred years. Voltaire is one of the first people who wrote it down, but it was a proverb for far longer than that.
It has nothing to do with being "lazy", and none of what you just said has anything to do with the saying. Why do you retards always come up with analogies about taking cocks in the ass and mouth? I swear, all you faggots talk about is getting fucked in the ass and mouth and all the cucks you know. You're obsessed with sexual humiliation, and you need help.
f6df50 No.16279167
>>16279134
But you brought up the taking it in the ass. You can't put that on me, stupid. Nobody was talking about assfucking until you showed up.
0d9ad5 No.16279181
>>16279092
According to the Unix hater fag this sounds like I'm lying or strawmanning his position, but the first time I saw this I thought I misread it so I asked him and he said the same thing again, hacky software literally did not exist before Unix. Everything was engineered, had lots of features, and bugs were never ignored or worked around, until one day several Multics devs grew fed up with Multics development and created an operating system and programming language of pure evil. The duo of Unix and C introduced programmers everywhere to laziness and niggerrigging, transformed them into weenies, and through business magic replaced all the amazing operating systems and software that came before it.
"Real programmers," in his worldview, despite being incredible geniuses who could outdo weenies at everything, did absolutely nothing to stop this and spent their lives complaining about Unix on mailing lists and the usenet. The Unix hater collects the posts of these enlightened souls and dumps them on /tech/, because we absolutely must know about every single Unix software bug from the 1980s, even when they've been fixed for decades.
13489c No.16279255
>>16279072
And this has what to do with Open Source video games or Libbie?
34f959 No.16279257
>>16276008
Proton=Wine+DXVK+Esync. If you don't "own" anything tied to a Steam account, try Lutris.
http://lutris.net
13489c No.16279267
>>16279257
Proton has modified the way windowing works too. AND made some multi-core changes that are good for games, but bad for other applications vs standard Wine.
ebd23c No.16279289
>>16279269
But Dolphin is open source and it's probably the most impressive project in emulation history.
13489c No.16279300
The Dark Mod seems to have fixed the lighting bug with the Mesa AMD drivers. Also, SDL2 seems to be working.
9c3785 No.16279318
>>16279269
Working at Microsoft is nothing but a facade to accept lazy programming and design. Who cares if it's shit, it's designated!
13489c No.16279323
>>16279310
Open Source matters more for preservation than anything else. Morrowind is free for as long as you can get your hands on the assets. It doesn't matter if Beth removes it from stores and never updates it again.
13489c No.16279325
>>16279318
Ignore Loverock Davidson 2.0.
57d5ba No.16279355
>>16277354
Most of OpenMW's development should be going to the OpenMW-CS, because while it is very usable, it's still not complete IMO.
>>16278720
There shouldn't be legal issue with it at all, as all it does is reinterpret the data files. There are plenty of other projects that do this, like those Blood "source ports", or OpenRCT2.
34f959 No.16279372
>>16279267
Given that Valve's wheelhouse is gaming, that doesn't surprise me.
>>16279310
I think you're misinterpreting how they feel about the software. When I choose to use a open-source app such as Kdenlive (a video editor), I accept the fact that it's going to break from time to time or not include certain features that are included with proprietary options (i.e. Adobe Premier). Some are absolute shit. Others are more stable and secure than their proprietary counterparts The difference between the two is this:
If I or another user find a flaw in an open-source app and know how to fix it, we can do it ASAP and submit that to the devs directly without having to apply for a job at the company making it or hire lawyers in order to gain access to the source code.
13489c No.16279394
>>16279355
There doesn't have to be a REAL legal issue to take someone to court. The main reason Beth hasn't come down harder is that Morrowind is a VERY old game now and they've long since moved on from trying to squeeze more shekels out of it. They're still actively updating Skyrim though.
bad774 No.16279468
>>16277047
It is, but the post-Morrowind BSA file reading code was ported to master. So I'd wager anything Oblivion-related will probably be gradually ported as well.
13489c No.16279503
>>16279468
The biggest hurdle for Oblivion will be the busted "radiant" AI. Ironically enough.
83e656 No.16279529
>>16279394
>they've long since moved on from trying to squeeze more shekels out of it
Not quite. They still have a price tag on every official method of acquiring it, unlike Arena and Daggerfall.
13489c No.16279531
>>16279529
It was a while ago, but when they did that, Daggerfall and Arena were already all over the place to DL. They just accepted it.
13489c No.16279549
>>16279529
And I imagine whatever money they still get off of MW is barely even a rounding error.
1ccaa7 No.16279958
>>16278589
>but this game is just an utter eye sore, I'd rather have simple sprite graphics than these depthless 3D ones.
Yeah its sometimes a bit hard figuring out what the fuck the enemy units are without zooming in. Compared to modern games it doesn't has tons of graphical fidelity clutter going on so at least for me its not that difficult figuring out what the fug is going on. I have few other annoyances with this game though, mainly the lack of armored vehicle support which would be highly useful on open terrain, there was this rocky somewhat jungle like map and It took me 5-6 tries to beat it with a minimal causality on my side, the troubles I mainly had was figuring out what the fuck I could use as a cover because the starting point doesn't fucking have any for some dumb reason, the fucking airplane is not available either. Speaking of the landed craft it fucking annoys me that firstly I am not allowed to select my starting position, it is fucking randomized which is highly bullshit for a TACTICAL game, secondly the landed craft is not always there either, on some maps it is there but sometimes its not, then there is also this inconsistency that even when the landed craft is there sometimes the troopers are outside of it and at other times they are inside it. So this sort of inconsistency with the inital trooper placement fucking pisses me off to no end, god fucking damnit I am playing now a tactical game or some bullshit RNG fake-RPG ones? Fuck its so annoying.
At this point of my concentration isn't fucked up as well my motivation I would rather just make my own game engine and a game too instead of dealing with all this bullshit, at least I would be dealing the bullshit I have created instead of unknown bullshit that appears in the most inconvenient timing frame possible, the most unexceptionable bullshit. As well I fucking hate thise circlejerk going on with this godot too, "hurr derp nurp we are FOSS game engine!" As if you are the first FOSS game engine out there to exist. And instead of using those fucking patreon shekels to have proper vast repository of documentation and tutorials instead those fucking numale hipster assholes hide all this shit behind their paywall demaind even more shekels for this hipster chastely shoddily done coloring. God damn FUCK, I wan't my crute 90's graphic back I don't fucking care how primitive it was back then, at least they didn't pretended its so "cutesy nutesy uwu" faggotry going fucking assholes nigger shit fuck.
a9cda3 No.16280051
>>16278906
It's probably a combination of these three:
- Proprietary middleware like Unity Engine
- It just doesn't cross their mind
- They just plain don't know or understand that Libre is not Gratis
- The code is a mess and they are ashamed
- Muh sekrit sauce, overblown ego where they think their source code is the most brilliant thing in the world and us peasants are not worthy of it
7d454f No.16280261
Oh boy, got a recent experience to report on.
Steam has stopped showing the friends list for whatever reason, while it was working for a long time, a recent update valve released just outright broke it, not just friends list but also trying to access ones own profile.
Valve's released several updates since with none fixing the issue, so I thought I'd update my whole system.
>a few libs have changed their namesake and prompt for approval to continue updating
I hate this in general because you really don't have a choice despite it prompting for a y/n input. Either you type y or you don't update.
>rest of update goes without a hitch
>reboot
>on login, system is using 25% cpu for mandb (process indexes man pages but this should be done before you ever see it)
>click on volume control, suddenly speakers start screeching like hell
>have to unplug speakers and reboot
>that problem is gone after it starts up, steam client still can't access friends list or profile
>just cycling through application menus I see that 3 games have been installed outside of steam, sudoku, block attack, and checkers
I had no idea why these were installed because I knew I didn't install them myself, turns out they're included in the FLTK package now (which I wanted to try making gui's in at one point).
So now if I want to get rid of these games I have to uninstall FLTK entirely, when the maintainer should not have included games in the package at all.
The audio fluke I'll attribute to pulseaudio being so shitty, but god damn package maintainers who include random shit, sudoku is not essential to designing a GUI.
d8afea No.16280273
>>16280261
Did you do a release-upgrade?
4842a5 No.16280461
>>16278602
Is it possible to play Terror from the Deep with this?
2a3f32 No.16280582
>>16274424
>Who needs native when Wine/Proton gets close enough with DXVK or Gallium 9?
I do, because when it comes to doujin games they fucking don't. Wine is more interested in the flavor of the month AAA piece of shit than making sure more obscure stuff works properly.
2a3f32 No.16280596
SuperTuxKart official netplay release soon. Finally I'll get some of your fags who are too whiny to compile to fite me.
7d454f No.16280958
>>16280273
It's arch linux, you know the rest.
I really used to like arch, but I have less reason to keep it every time I update.
d8afea No.16280968
>>16280958
>It's arch
got it
c7b031 No.16280988
>>16280461
>>16278602
OpenXcom is what I recommend over any other method, as all the good mods are being made for it anyway
13489c No.16281118
>>16281043
This is everybody's last chance to get the archive from me. And those links all die with March.
4842a5 No.16281248
>>16280984
>>16280988
Thanks anons. Its gonna be a fun night.
13489c No.16281260
>>16281248
The open source community in general has been VERY neglectful of these projects since Steam became a thing on Linux. GemRB is down to ONE dev when Beamdog snipped the other main contributor.
bf4d6e No.16281426
Beat Half Life the other day, game is frankly overrated.
Should I bother with BS/OF or just forget Valveshit?
922b1a No.16281481
>>16281260
The wonders of embrace, extend, extinguish.
Honestly don't know why anyone keep coming to a closed sourced website when you get censored for wrong opinions.
What's with
>>16277490
>>16277531
>>16277967
>>16277490
>>16279072
>>16279167
>>16279134
>>16279296
>>16279269
>>16279318
>>16279323
>>16279310
And not the other shitposters above them?
cc6305 No.16281552
>>16281248
The only thing that sucks about OpenXcom is that you can't really do a whole lot with the battlescape to make little RPG segments. So it's all primarily just flavor mods.
13489c No.16281573
>>16281481
In this case, it's not a DELIBERATE case of EEE. But GemRB does need help.
99867c No.16281775
>>16279446
>cucked out cause of meany chirstchurch shitposters
odilidud needs to burn
e4a062 No.16281834
Wesnoth is the greatest game ever made.
The replayability is endless.
3270d1 No.16281862
The few times I've tried Leenux, I've hated the design and organization.
13489c No.16281882
>>16281834
It's a damn fine strategy game, but some people struggle with the RNG.
2e8380 No.16281953
>>16281862
Even linuxfags hate the design of most UIs.
This is why most /tech/fags have given up defending the horrid mess and just tell you to use the commandline.
0f8fe4 No.16281999
>>16281862
Cinnamon, MATE, XFCE and LXDE/LXQt are pretty straightforward Desktop Environments if you're migrating from Windows. But I agree about Ubuntu's take on GNOME. It's pretty dumb and ugly.
13489c No.16282035
>>16281999
Trips aside, I find Gnome is the easiest to explain to kids who only ever used mobile interfaces.
8807e4 No.16282045
>>16280461
Wait terror of the deep also works with openxcom? Does it also work with apocalypse?
38d0f0 No.16282071
>>16281573 Let's see Valve support GemRB.
>>16281862
I thought the samething about Windows, coming from BeOS.
>>16282035
Sad and true.
0d9ad5 No.16282082
>>16282071
>BeOS
Did it have games?
0d9ad5 No.16282167
>>16282089
Figures, most of those are freetard games.
Am I the only one who prefers SuperTux 0.1.4 over the newer releases? Sure they added parallax scrolling, but they dropped the software renderer and the forest world/everything they've added since then kind of sucks. At least they hid a banepost in the forest levels.
13489c No.16282183
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>>16282167
SRB2 Kart is a better game anyway. And it's still GPL'd.
0d9ad5 No.16282202
>>16282183
SuperTux, not SuperTuxkart.
7620bb No.16282204
There are very few things keeping me away of linux, it's mostly the Touhou games not working too well. I've been trying out specifically 15.5 and 13.5. That's all I really care about since I play that regularly with my friends. The rest of the vidya I play on things that aren't my PC, or are emulated. I was having trouble setting up my controllers but I found out how due to a nice guide.
5eedb3 No.16282209
>>16280582
>doujin games are now more retardedly coded than AAA games
Why don't they just use power point if they are going to make everyone's lives miserable?
70478d No.16282223
>>16278105
I wouldn't call thousands of stack overflow questions good support and you can find the same amount of pkgs in arch's AUR.
Not to mention that that wasn't even what I was talking about
7d5d2e No.16282238
13489c No.16282249
>>16282223
Support means not having to compile shit from source half the time. And the AUR has tons of busted packages.
f6df50 No.16282286
>>16282223
Software support isn't the same thing as customer support, you rube.
17dca4 No.16282305
I'm fine with it being underrated. I would prefer it if it had stayed underrated.
GNU/Linux going mainstream killed it since it brought all the women and trannies in that brainwashed Torvalds.
It's not meant for normalfags and shouldn't appeal to them.
This >>16274612 is the image I want people to have of GNU/Linux, so they can stay the fuck away.
0f8fe4 No.16282321
>>16282035
Never thought about that, you're right.
I find DeepinDE to be quite nice for a touchscreen, also.
>>16282204
One of the few issues I still have with WINE is the lack of compatibility with MUGEN custom games and some Doujin stuff, everything else works really well.
>>16282305
The post you're quoting is obviously misinformed bait. Even a fucking moron like me didn't have such problems with my first Loonix installations.
17dca4 No.16282339
>>16282321
>The post you're quoting is obviously misinformed bait.
I'm aware. What the fuck did you take from what I wrote?
778701 No.16282426
>>16282167
>most of those are freetard games.
Did you read the OP, or are you lost?
>>16282183
This
>>16282204
E|mail Zun to port to Linux. He's a very approachable person.
>>16282321
>custom games
Ah, good thing I read that last part, 'Cause when PCBSD existed, I ported regular MUGEN binary build through the Fedora ABI.
Now I'm seeking to build my own engine in Godot, after my migration [article 13].
>>16282339
That you don't like libre software, and are doing everything possible not to liberate yourself and others?
I wonder what how much Microsoft pays to detract in imageboards their games don't work on a hobby operating system.
0d9ad5 No.16282455
>>16282426
It was a category for BeOS vidya and most were ports/SDL builds of freetard Linux games.
17dca4 No.16282463
>>16282426
>That you don't like libre software, and are doing everything possible not to liberate yourself and others?
You're way too fucking stupid to use a computer. This is exactly the sort of stupid people I was talking about that ruined the community.
778701 No.16282469
>>16282455
This is correct, and we had native ports of the real games like Dwarf Fortress and Nethack.
You see, 2D graphics was a new thing then, and people where trying really hard to build systems from the ground up, and really compete.
But again, the market decides. And it Chose the most antitrust company in the world, to port games to.
So we had to make do.
So ask, does Windows offer libre games?
778701 No.16282473
>>16282463
You want to suck Microsoft long antitrust CoC?
70478d No.16282479
>>16282286
That matters even less considering that the support service some distros make their money of is pretty much a company only thing.
>>16282249
That has jack to do with the amount of pkgs available to you and the purpose of the AUR is to provide a makepkg file which takes away any of the manual compiling action.
2a3f32 No.16282493
>>16281999
Cinnamon and MATE are both retarded redundant shit that have no reason to exist. Xfce does everything they can do and more with less resources.
13489c No.16282502
>>16282469
The fact that there are so many broken packages in the AUR is still a problem. Hell, I'd go as far as to call it a fundamental flaw.
2a3f32 No.16282517
>>16282183
STK has a better physics engine and isn't crippled by the ZDoom 3D engine. The downside of course being that it takes more work to build custom tracks.
96d475 No.16282540
>>16282502
Ah, but I'm not recommending rolling release distros like Arch.
In fact I'm promoting libre games, the point of the thread.
If AUR packages are broken all the time, pick some more stable.
I hope you're not one of those false equivalent anons that forgets Windows breaks packages all the time too, so much so 10 deleted files.
>>16282508
Cute! But how is the image relevant to the discussion?
13489c No.16282542
>>16282517
That's all lovely. But that doesn't change the fact that SRB2 Kart is the superior game.
8d1604 No.16282544
>>16282540
It isn't, but I'm making use of my God-given right to freedom of speech.
2a3f32 No.16282547
96d475 No.16282556
>>16282544
Did you know you're in the wrong site if you want free press?
https://8ch.net/v/rules.html
Worst if you learn who the moderators are.
273910 No.16282568
>>16280582
> doujin games
how difficult can some nip games be to run? or are you talking about injectors and shit to get translations?
8d1604 No.16282572
>>16282556
Hey, don't blame me, that's just what Hotwheels told me about this place 5 years ago.
2a3f32 No.16282582
>>16282568
It's different for every game, but even when something "runs" the end result is typically that it doesn't run well enough to be played seriously. La-Mulana slows to a crawl during bosses for example. Hellsinker chugs during the final stages. Cho Ren Sha 68K tends to crash after running too long. All of these are quite old games that should have been running perfectly a long time ago. Then there's even older games like Windows 3.0 stuff like Exile: Escape from the Pit that USED to work great but got fucked up a long time ago and the Wine team never fixed their fuckups. If you regularly replay a lot of niche PC games like I do, Wine continues to be an unreliable disappointment. I'd love for Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst to work for once too.
83e656 No.16282594
>>16282517
STK has the graphical style of generic trash and no one gives a shit about any of the playable characters. SRB2K at least provides a good whole experience, with an iconic cast, an incredible number and variety of tracks with the base game, and great music.
>>16282508
>>16282544
>>16282572
Freedom of speech doesn't mean anything you say is contributing to the thread.
83e656 No.16282620
>>16282613
>Are you a person that can't differentiate between spoken words and data posted in a website admins are now responsible for?
That anon posted an irrelevant image and said he was contributing. When asked how the image had anything to do with the thread, he said it didn't and he was merely executing his right to freedom of speech. I was merely explaining to him that freedom of speech doesn't automatically make any irrelevant post into a genuine contribution to the thread.
8d1604 No.16282624
>>16282594
>>16282620
So every post in every thread has to be 100% on topic? Because if you knew anything about imageboards you'd know that isn't ever the case, even for good threads.
83e656 No.16282628
>>16282613
>>16282620
Oh, you fucked up, didn't you? Don't worry, anon, it happens to the best of us. I'm still going to laugh condescendingly at you, though.
2a3f32 No.16282634
What's with all the deleted posts?
96d475 No.16282637
Oops wrong citation. Practicing my freedom of self-censorship! >>16282613
>>>16282572
So you're a newfag?
Welcome aboard! >>>/v/edit need more newfags to enlist them in more white race uprising!
>>16282594
>Freedom of speech
Are you a person that can't differentiate between spoken words and data posted in a website admins are now responsible for?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865
>>16282620
And I'm inciting you have no free press, in this site, or the USA.
83e656 No.16282648
>>16282624
No, what I'm saying is that >>16282508 is an outright lie, and >>16282544 isn't a legitimate justification for it.
7620bb No.16282653
>>16282321
I actually got T12.3 to work, but I was lazy so it was through POL. I want to streamline it better.
>>16282426
Maybe. The fightan games are done by different developers, however.
96d475 No.16282656
>>16282624
Yep! Welcome to >>>/v/
They'll censor you arbitrarily and cite rule 8 because they can!
>>16282628
Absolutely, just like Microsoft does at many users' paid expense!
>>16282634
Ask a mod!
96d475 No.16282664
>>16282653
>fightan games are done by different developers, however.
True, and Godot already competes with UE4!
Imagine LinuxTekken, Libbie, Tux, Kikky, GNU Bison, all in one great engine!
9f8d6b No.16282675
Anything good for phone aside from Forge?
bf2448 No.16283036
Well, mind as well drop this here while the thread exists.
https://gitgud.io/dankus10/Finale
Dragon Ball Climax (or Dragon Ball /v/ Climax if you're patriotic and longwinded) is a open source game about punching things,
often really really hard.
It's built in BYOND, the same engine behind SS13 (with all of its noticable faults.)
Essentially, we need coders, but the latest build could be considered a beta of sorts. Very little is needed for its 1.0 release, however a lack of coders is making the game take awhile.
If you want to try it out a single player host (it's very buggy) and report some bugs in https://gitgud.io/dankus10/Finale/issues at least, it'd would also help.
4fee06 No.16283195
>>16283036
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Station_13
>Platform(s)Microsoft Windows
Nice! But no thank you. Reads like a scripting language, not into rpgs, plenty of those in the libre market!
bf2448 No.16283201
>>16283195
You do realize you can use BYOND on Linux right?
http://www.byond.com/download/
4fee06 No.16283238
>>16283201
>>Reads like a scripting language, not into rpgs, plenty of those in the libre market!
Yeah no thanks!
668595 No.16283243
>>16283036
>>16283201
Climax and SS13 might be open source, but byond isn't, and the linux version is only the server.
13489c No.16283247
Apparently, some insane autists have cloned the RPGMaker 2000 engine. This means OFF, Yume Nikki, IB and, yes, Violated Heroine are all, technically, open source games now:
https://easyrpg.org/
13489c No.16283254
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16283247
Actually, this means a LOT of games have open source code now…
213dd5 No.16283297
>>16278482
>free like a communist
I never know if the people who say this are actual communists or just proprietary shills pretending they aren't the commies to scare off people from free software.
4fee06 No.16283311
>>16283297
Here's what funny, and why moderation on this board sucks:
You can keep your four freedoms, and still sell your code.
It's ironic he cites Jonathan Blow, because the man worked as a porter all his life before making Braid.
Imagine if for a second people had the ability to self reflect, >>16278482
Would have figured out why Braid wasn't yet another Zelda clone.
a9cda3 No.16283575
>>16283297
> I never know if the people who say this are actual communists or just proprietary shills pretending they aren't the commies to scare off people from free software.
I think a lot of people have no idea what communism actually is. They just think either "communism=bad, therefore capitalism=good" or "communism=free shit".
In communism the means of production are owned by the government elite who dictate how much of what is produced and how much everyone gets. Proprietary software is closer to communism, except that instead of one central government you have a few non-government organizations dictating the market.
Free Software on the other hand is like primitivism: everyone owns his own means of production. I can get whatever code I want, whatever tools I want, use it for whatever I want and make whatever I want. I can share it with other people, I can keep it for myself. I don't need anyone's permission. If I decide to share my stuff and enough people like it and want to contribute, a small community can form and grow, but it doesn't have to.
>>16282463
>You're way too fucking stupid to use a computer. This is exactly the sort of stupid people I was talking about that ruined the community.
What ruins the community are pathetic beta orbiters who will sell our their own mother the instant a rainbow-haired landwhale even just farts in their direction.
13489c No.16283662
>>16283620
You are both retard. Communism is an economic theory (that turned out to be bullshit built on false assumptions about human nature). You cannot say either Open Source or Free Software are communistic because they have only tangential relation to the means of production and private ownership thereof.
0fbc43 No.16283672
Software has no relation whatsoever to economic theory. You may as well liken them to different types of sandwiches, the entire debate is retarded and pointless. Analogies are so fucking stupid goddamn.
13489c No.16283681
>>16283247
The only knock I've found about EasyRPG is that it still needs the RTP assets. Which are a bit of a pain in the ass to get if you don't have a Windows box. It can be done in Wine, but hoops abound to jump through.
a789fb No.16283688
>>16283297
How about retarded communist shills for proprietary software?
39b2d8 No.16283690
>>16283620
>FSF is literally staffed 100% entirely by actual open communists
Absolutely irrelevant. They want to reach a point where everyone has the four freedoms of software. Meanwhile, commies had planned economies, enforced with gun or gulag, and that's incompatible with the four freedoms.
>but REAL commies actually want to give you freedoms
Then that's more like anarchy, which is lack of organization, giving rise to localized despotism. Either way you argue, "true communism" cannot exist.
So far the FSF is just an advocacy group, preaching the way of Free Software as an alternative to the locked down world that companies saying "Don't copy that floppy" built. The FSF has no power other than what the peasantry gives them, meanwhile big company copyright is enforced by law and police.
13489c No.16283691
>>16283686
Even RMS has said Communism doesn't work. The GPL actually has more in common with the American constitution than the Little Red Book or the Communist Manifesto.
Now, you can go to /pol/ to bitch about failed economic theories. This thread is for free/libre gaming.
a9cda3 No.16283727
>>16283620
> No, it is owned by the people.
And who is this People? It's the government. If you have one million people and five factories they cannot all own the five factories at the same time. Instead the government or some other communal body has to act on behalf of the people or everyone has to join into some sort of hive mind.
> That is capitalism you fucking retard.
In proprietary software you cannot do anything without permission. Want to release your shitty fart-sound app? First you have to ask for a permission to even develop on the platform, then you have to ask for permission to release your fart-app on the store, and finally have to ask for permission to get paid out. It is neither capitalism nor communism, but it is certain closer to the latter.
> Demanding that everyone give away their code for free under the license of your choice because the central authority of the FSF says so is exactly like communism.
You don't have to give away anything. I have a shitton of code I have never shared with anyone. All the FSF insists upon is that if you share it you have to share it properly, i.e. you cannot say "look, but don't touch".
>>16283672
> Software has no relation whatsoever to economic theory.
I agree, but you can always draw some parallels between things. You could even compare software to sandwiches if you wanted to. Windows is like a premade sandwich you buy at a truck stop: it's prepackaged, tastes like shit, you don't get to ask what's inside, and you probably don't want to know. Linux is like a sandwich you make yourself: there is time and effort in preparation, but you know what it's made of and if you don't like some part you can change the recipe to your taste.
0d9ad5 No.16283822
>>16283789
>No, what the FSF insists upon is that everyone release their code under the GPL. Which is by definition not free, since it restricts the ability of others to use it
>SOMEONE ELSE's software
You stupid nigger, selling or giving someone something, then acting like you still own it is jewery of the highest degree. This is the "reasoning" Apple, Jon Deer, and other huge companies use to sue the shit out of anyone repairing products they made. The GPL is a reaction to this cancer: a legal hack that prevents users of said software from turning around and pulling this jewery on someone else.
So congratulations: in your fucking retarded attempt to fight communism you promoted (((intellectual property))) jewery.
39b2d8 No.16283851
>>16283789
>promoting communism
Promoting freedom, not forced reallocation.
>exactly the same power
How is the FSF enforcing anything relating to the majority of FOSS projects, from Firefox to ffmpeg? While big companies have lawyers to bend everything to their will? The FSF is a powerless advocacy group. The GPL uses copyright right now to have a fighting chance, but I think they would be very happy to drop that part as soon as possible. I think Stallman has a writeup about that somewhere.
0d9ad5 No.16283922
>>16283882
>The very communism you are pretending doesn't exist is built on and 100% dependent on that (((intellectual property))) you moron.
>That's the point retard. When you say "here this is FREE software, but by the way you have to follow my communist rules" then you are a kike. Putting something in the public domain would be actually giving it away.
So abusing a jewish system to jew jews out of jewing people means freetards are even worse than jews? (((How convenient.))) We should give up, lay down, and let the jews fuck us up the ass because fighting back somehow makes us even worse.
>>16283686
>>16283789
>Yes you can, because the FSF openly are communists, and they openly advocate communism, and consider the GPL to be part of that.
>Communists openly stating that they are promoting communism because they like communism is very relevant to the communism they are promoting.
I searched fsf.org and found zero results for communism. The only results found for "Marx" were several last names, references to Groucho Marx, and a line in a PDF stating "FSF staff hold a variety of political opinions, and historically, our staff has included Marxists and libertarians, liberal democrats and fiscal conservatives, and everything in between." gnu.org's essays, on the other hand, have multiple instances of Richard Stallman insisting he is not a communist and criticizing communism.
From https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bill-gates-and-other-communists.en.html :
>Bill Gates discussed patents with CNET under the heading of “intellectual property,” a term that covers many disparate laws. He said anyone who won't give blanket support to all these laws is a Communist. Since I'm not a Communist but I have criticized software patents, I got to thinking this calumny might be aimed at me.
>...
>But Capitalism means monopoly; at least, Gates-style Capitalism does. People who think that everyone should be free to program, free to write complex software, they are Communists, says Mr. Gates. But these Communists have infiltrated even the Microsoft boardroom. Here's what Bill Gates told Microsoft employees in 1991:
>“If people had understood how patents would be granted when most of today's ideas were invented and had taken out patents, the industry would be at a complete stand-still today...A future start-up with no patents of its own will be forced to pay whatever price the giants choose to impose.”
>Mr. Gates' secret is out now—he too was a “Communist,” he too recognized that software patents were harmful, until Microsoft became one of these giants. Now Microsoft aims to use software patents to impose whatever price it chooses on you and me. And if we object, Mr. Gates will call us “Communists.”
From https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/luispo-rms-interview.en.html (also has a tl;dr summary of Stallman's political views):
>Q: Along these lines, there has been considerable confusion over how to name your idea of an ethical society. Mistakenly, many would assert that you are suggesting a communism.
>A: Anyone who criticizes certain business practices can expect to be called “communist” from time to time. This is a way of changing the subject and evading the issue. If people believe the charges, they don't listen to what the critics really say. (It is much easier to attack communism than to attack the views of the free software movement.)
From https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html.en :
>Why Don't You Move to Russia?
>In the United States, any advocate of other than the most extreme form of laissez-faire selfishness has often heard this accusation. For example, it is leveled against the supporters of a national health care system, such as is found in all the other industrialized nations of the free world. It is leveled against the advocates of public support for the arts, also universal in advanced nations. The idea that citizens have any obligation to the public good is identified in America with Communism. But how similar are these ideas?
>Communism as was practiced in the Soviet Union was a system of central control where all activity was regimented, supposedly for the common good, but actually for the sake of the members of the Communist party. And where copying equipment was closely guarded to prevent illegal copying.
>The American system of software copyright exercises central control over distribution of a program, and guards copying equipment with automatic copying-protection schemes to prevent illegal copying.
>By contrast, I am working to build a system where people are free to decide their own actions; in particular, free to help their neighbors, and free to alter and improve the tools which they use in their daily lives. A system based on voluntary cooperation and on decentralization.
>Thus, if we are to judge views by their resemblance to Russian Communism, it is the software owners who are the Communists.
123336 No.16283948
>>16283822
I've seen that image a million times (usually with the "we like older women here-caption) but I still don't know where it's from.
a9cda3 No.16284011
>>16283789
>No, what the FSF insists upon is that everyone release their code under the GPL.
Only for software you want to release to people. No one cares about software you write for yourself. If you write your secret super-power tool that lets you get your work done five times faster than any competitor you don't have to share it with anyone, no matter how much they beg you for it.
>Which is by definition not free, since it restricts the ability of others to use it. They do this while kikishly calling it "free software".
< Here anon, you can have my thing and you can do anything with it, just as long as you let others have the same freedom I have given to you
> REEEEE, you are such a communist!!! I want to get free shit from you and not give anything back!!! REEEEEE
0d9ad5 No.16284023
>>16283937
>No, using the jewish system to jew everyone. They aren't jewing jews, they are jews, and they are jewing people.
Nigger, by your logic jewing people (legally forcing restrictions on how people use, modify, and share stuff you made) is not jewish until you turn around and abuse their system to forcibly prevent them from jewing others with something you made, then you're the uberjew and must be exterminated to preserve our god-given right to jew. That's fucking retarded.
At worst, the GPL is a hack which preserves one's freedom from jewery by denying jews the possibility of jewing. It's not ideal by any means, but from the gnufag perspective that's still better than every permissively licensed/public domain thing you make being seized by jews, slightly modified, and spat out as their own super special donut steel proprietary product.
>At no point in anything you posted does he state he is not a communist
Yeah, because "Since I'm not a Communist" totally doesn't count. Eat shit, you dishonest faggot.
>His criticism of the USSR is literally marxism 101: "the USSR was bad because it didn't do communism properly: for the good of the people!".
Nice strawman, fag.
cbcf46 No.16284068
>>16272668
>lincucks starting console wars against systems which actually play games
Lol
2a3f32 No.16284092
Is /pol/ really bitching about freedom in a free software thread again?
e4a062 No.16284120
>>16284092
/pol/ doesn't care about freedom anymore.
It's been infiltrated by edgy LARPing nazi stormfaggots. The conservatives and libertarians have jumped ship to /liberty/ months ago.
nu/pol/ is just a alt-right echo chamber.
592563 No.16284124
>>16276138
>>16276062
>>16275910
There you are, faggot. Spotted you. You can't hide from me.
4b5d27 No.16284152
>>16283789
>where?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bill-gates-and-other-communists.en.html
From what I've seen, stallman isn't quite a marxist- but he certainly is somewhat SJW if you've seen his political notes. Other than that he's just a boomer lefty.
13489c No.16284156
>>16284068
Linux currently plays more games than anything aside from Windows. Hell, it probably can play more than the current crop of consoles combined.
0d9ad5 No.16284167
Looks like the fag's posts were deleted, but here's my response anyhow.
>>16284046
>You can't preserve freedom by removing freedom.
On the contrary, freedoms are protected by laws denying others the freedom to deny you of your legally-protected freedom. Your ideal is anarchy.
>It would count, but he never says that. He deflects instead of saying that. This is the point Shlomo.
He said it in the first essay paragraph I quoted. Consider actually reading posts before you make sweeping statements about what they contain.
>Bill Gates discussed patents with CNET under the heading of “intellectual property,” a term that covers many disparate laws. He said anyone who won't give blanket support to all these laws is a Communist. Since I'm not a Communist but I have criticized software patents, I got to thinking this calumny might be aimed at me.
>Read it you fucking heeb: "Communism as was practiced in the Soviet Union was a system of central control where all activity was regimented, supposedly for the common good, but actually for the sake of the members of the Communist party."
Fair. Stallman is politically out of touch but that does not mean his takes on copyright and software are automatically bad.
>>16284092
He's less /pol/ and more some fart-huffing ancap who's picked up /pol/ lingo to fit in.
60bbc9 No.16284169
I'm curious about something before migrating to Linux. I don't claim to fully understand this CoC deal, but I what I do want to know, will it, as an end user, affect me?
13489c No.16284172
>>16284152
Stallman is of the old hard-left. The SJWs are actually not fans of him for this reason. It's why they tried to bump him off with claims of transphobia lot all that long ago.
0d9ad5 No.16284176
>>16284169
No. It fucking sucks and it will affect you if you contribute to the Linux kernel someday which you probably won't, but in practice proprietary operating systems and their developers have more power to screw you over for your beliefs.
13489c No.16284178
>>16284169
As a user the CoC means nothing to you for the near and mid-term. Long term, it may mean the kernel gets a big fork at some point.
60bbc9 No.16284203
>>16284176
I don't really know what a kernel is, and part of why I'm considering jumping face first into Linux is a motivation to learning about the thing I'm spending two thirds of my time in front of.
f7c4fb No.16284211
>ctrl-f /lv/
>zero results
there's a board for this, it needs love >>>/lv/
cbcf46 No.16284280
>>16284156
>being this delusional
ok bro, whatever helps you sleep at night
13489c No.16284311
>>16284280
It's a fact. For example, my Linux box plays every singe console game up to the GC and PS2. Can any of the current consoles do that? Can I take my Switch and run Morrowind and Oblivion on it? No? Just a gimped version of Skyrim (which also runs on Linux)?
08cdbb No.16284395
>>16284311
Skyrim works on lincucks if you don't plan on using any mods.
Which is basically the only reason anyone ever plays that trash
13489c No.16284410
>>16284395
The fuck are you talking about? Mods work fine. I was just looking at Viljas big bouncing tiddies just last night.
08cdbb No.16284411
>>16276062
dxvk is a directx to vulkan layer that is completely seperate from wine development.
infact, the devs actually incurage testing dxvk using FUCKING WINDOWS cause it's easier to debug without having to figure out whats a wine error and what is a dxvk error.
So obviously dxvk is not a linux exclusive thing and doesn't need wine support at all to function.
All wine needs to do is support vulkan which they do already.
677ae5 No.16284413
>>16280958
worksforme
are you using steam-native or steam-runtime?
08cdbb No.16284433
>>16284410
If by "work" you mean you'll have to jump through 10 hundred more hoops to get even the most minor of mod to work.
Then yeah, they work but only some of them.
My experience with mods has been that retarded and useless graphics mods will almost always work but if you plan to actually enhance gameplay your going to be shit on a lot.
It comes down to how the mod has been packaged most of the time, there also was this bug with graphics mods that if the name of the directory was named "Textures" instead of "textures" or vise versa it wouldn't load.
This is because linux is a cap sensitive and obvously bethesda or the modder has no quality control over their code.
But what do i know i only spent 30 hours trying to get it to work only to use a virual machine in the end.
08cdbb No.16284440
>>16284433
>>16284410
Mod organizer also doesn't work so managing mods is near impossible without copying the entire mod folder and reinstalling over and over.
1ccaa7 No.16284441
>>16284156
>Linux currently plays more games than anything aside from Windows.
>Try to run KKnD 1 Xtreme
>Skirmish works, Singleplayer works only for 1 mission than it crashes
>try to load/save game
>crashes
>try to run Dark Colony
>ingame scrolling is turbo fast
>use ancient wine version
>audio playback is fucked
>try to run Dark Reign
>mouse acceleration is fucked up
>fullscreen mode is screwed
>Try to run all those 3 games in Win XP
>it just fucking works
08cdbb No.16284450
>>16280261
>I hate this in general because you really don't have a choice despite it prompting for a y/n input. Either you type y or you don't update.
Install gentoo. You won't get this sort of dictatorship with it, generally updating keeping libraries working is much easier and more manageable.
83e656 No.16284455
>>16284433
If having to eyeball through an archive, to make sure all the folders have correct capitalization, is too much of an inconvenience for you, you probably shouldn't be modding TES games, in the first place.
08cdbb No.16284457
>>16284441
Wine is pretty bullshit and i don't recommend anyone use it and expect 100% functionality.
Proton is a bit better functionality wise but it's tied to the DRM nightmare that is steam.
08cdbb No.16284465
>>16284455
It's like TES games are all shitty.
But really, this is a problem because wine should catch such events where capitalization is inconsistent, but it doesn't.
The greater problem is that these directors with capitalization issues can be nested so you might need a parrent directory with Textures campitalized and the directory in it with it uncapitalized, or textures and capitalized, or any number of bullshit combinations.
So watching that shit gets real anoying after havin to import over a hundred or so mods that are pretty much required to make the game atleast somewhat enjoyable.
08cdbb No.16284466
>>16284455
but, yeah, if you just want bewbs then fine it works.
1c243c No.16284472
>>16277407
Same here. I work as a sysadmin and use Linux daily on quite a few servers I manage, and for this sort of task and environment Linux works extremely well, better than Windows Server. It's often actually harder to set up than Windows Server, but once you get it up and running the way you want to, it can stay up for years without a single problem or even a reboot.
Desktop Linux, on the other hand, is a fucking disaster. I mean, it can be a pretty decent system to use if all you're going to do with it is light web browsing and the occasional document editing on LibreOffice, without any system tinkering or customization. On that perspective I say it's a good system for elderly people to use, and maybe stupid normalfag teens with no interest in video games or technology, since it'll shield them from viruses and pajeet scams.
But try to do anything more advanced with it, or tinker with the system, and get ready for frustration and hours wasted.
0d9ad5 No.16284473
>>16284455
>that fucking punctuation
Are you the "I never got, why English seems to use so few commas" faggot who shat up /hypno/'s meta thread back in February?
83e656 No.16284519
>>16284473
No? I was using entirely proper English grammar, there. It's not my fault if you forgot your third grade English lessons.
677ae5 No.16284525
>>16284457
except it is not, there's nothing forcing you to use proton with steam, you can use proton wihtout even having steam installed.
08cdbb No.16284535
>>16284525
Proton without steam is literally just wine though.
What gives proton it's functionality and use is the scripts bundled withit that interface with steam.
Using proton without steam is pretty much equal to using wine with winetricks.
fa03c4 No.16284546
>>16284519
>I was using entirely proper English grammar, there.
Hahaha
d15c44 No.16284552
>>16284472
Never understood that point, how am I wasting time on a Desktop install when tinkering with the system compared to a server install?
For example I ran into some odd autofs behaviour the other day trying to reduce the amount of device being mounted at startup.
Didn't work out because it slowed down the system to a crawl for whatever reason and the thing was pretty much burning time… but that would have been the same on a server install.
1c243c No.16284576
>>16284552
Well, you're talking about filesystem stuff, so obviously in this case it doesn't make a difference being a server or desktop. But I meant more things like installing multiple desktop apps, having these apps interact with each other, gaming, and customizing your desktop environment.
0d9ad5 No.16284588
>>16284519
Nigger you just tried defending your English by writing a post which can be interpreted as both a denial and an affirmation that you posted on /hypno/. Your grasp of English punctuation and grammar (let alone the language itself) are far weaker than you think.
Lurk moar.
d15c44 No.16284645
>>16284576
I mean yeah there is quite a bit of overlap, hence why I don't really get that mindset.
As far as DEs and applications are concerned those can indeed take some time and the difficulty differs greatly from one program to another but configuring say an i3 setup isn't really difficult or frustrating, you just need to be aware of the documentation and know what you want.
And unless you copy paste giant bashrc's or something like that it's not really that difficult finding the change that broke an application.
39b2d8 No.16284881
Let's see some of my experiences with Debian from the past 5 years.
Bretty gud:
>AOE2, minor annoyances
>AM2R, only occasionally wrecked by memory leak triggering oomkiller
>Pharaoh, no problems after switching Wine to Win98 mode
>La-Mulana (the old one), tolerable, some animations cause immense slowdown, I guess bitmap trickery is slow with X11 + Wine
Wine is good enough for my simple needs.
Why do you hurt me so:
>after booting, 20% chance for complete black instead of GUI login screen, switching with F1-F8 several times may or may not deliver the missing login screen
>audio system can contract timing illness, will play small chunk of buffer before refilling, sounds like garbled superspeed, may or may not fix itself after several minutes
>audio system puts mute on main mixer and speakers but removes it only on the main mixer, have to go to settings to manually unmute
>audio sometimes muted on both outputs when headphones plugged in or removed, fails to switch over correctly
>AOE2, jumpy mouse cursor
>AOE2, Alt+Tab or similar will cause mouse in game to lock to upper right, have to restart game
>AOE2, CD music ends and needs manual restart through toggling in options
>one instance of La-Mulana crashing in fullscreen and Wine not restoring the desktop size, causing XFCE tray to be offscreen and being unable to go to settings
>have to juggle RAM use to prevent full desktop freeze and endless HDD grind
>the fucking GTK file selector
And many more, but that's enough for now.
I rate it Win95/Win98. Win7 is just more polished, won't abandon it yet.
2a3f32 No.16284900
>>16284881
Tell me your secrets for getting La-Mulana to run at a "tolgerable" level. I found the slowdown during the snake boss completely intolerable.
34eb7f No.16284907
>>16283575
>pathetic beta orbiters who will sell our their own mother the instant a rainbow-haired landwhale even just farts in their direction.
So socially stupid people. Exactly my point.
46c507 No.16285028
Who banned& deleted
>>16283620
>>16283686
>>16283789
>>16283882
>>16284046
I was busy programming last night.
>>16284211
You're not ignored, just now appreciated on >>>/v/
See how the mods delete wrong opinions instead of the other shitposters and baited respondents.
How's that dolphin port coming along?
46c507 No.16285035
a9cda3 No.16285061
>>16284203
>I don't really know what a kernel is
The kernel is the part of the operating system that interacts with the hardware itself. The kernel is as important for an OS as an engine is for a car. The other parts of the OS are collectively referred to as "user-space" because those are the parts the user interacts with. This means you don't have direct access to the hardware, whenever you want to do something with the hardware (like read a file from disc) you have to go through the kernel.
Linux is "just" a kernel and GNU is only user space. Neither is a complete operating system on its own, but put the two of them together and you get GNU/Linux, which is a complete operating system.
39b2d8 No.16285071
>>16284900
I can't remember the boss fights right now, it may have been pure autism pushing me through the low framerate parts. The many hours of wandering around were not affected that much.
b522b2 No.16285077
>>16282493
I agree (I've been using XFCE for almost 5 years now, it's great) but I have to mention the others, Anon has to form his own opinion on what does he like best.
7d454f No.16285196
>>16284413
Steam-native because for the longest time I've had trouble with audio if I don't use my own system libraries.
For whatever reason some days ago the client stopped showing me as online, then I noticed I couldn't open the community page, or my own profile, even the store would not show up, just my game library.
Steam-runtime works, but now there's no guarantee my audio is going to work flawlessly as before.
>>16284450
I use gentoo on several machines, but not on my main workstation just because I never feel motivated enough to transfer all my configs, find out what AUR packages I'll lose in the process, and finally spend the day installing the new system and transferring back all my configs again. I've submitted to the comfort of sameness at the cost of minor inconveniences that I know is going to keep biting me in the ass.
08cdbb No.16285197
>>16282493
Gnome forks are all retarded, if it isn't netwm compliant or standardized to work across the board with other DE/WMs then it's 100% shit
213dd5 No.16285277
>>16282035
>I find Gnome is the easiest to explain to kids who only ever used mobile interfaces.
You just reminded of this fat literal jewess who poked my laptop's screen one time.
Fucking wanted to rape the bitch but I bet she'd like it.
7d454f No.16285806
>>16285196
Now it's all coming back to me, because I had at one point installed jackd as an alternative to pulseaudio, steam with it's own runtime wanted to only use jackd and I couldn't remove jackd from my system because it's now detected as a hard dependency of a number of applications that actually shouldn't need it.
With that being installed and the jackd server running, steam has absolutely no audio, no input or output device, and I spent a month trying to force steam to load pulseaudio instead with no success, so I started using steam-native and it just werked. I also never fully got the hang of setting up jackd, so results were piss poor at best.
7d454f No.16286001
>>16285806
Oh and it gets better, I thought I'd try actually fixing it for once, if the jack server is already running when I start steam-runtime, there's still no audio. I can start a game up, and it prints a little message in my terminal regarding how jackd comes with 'ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY' and then says 'default' server is already active, but still no sound
I tried stopping and starting jackd with the game still running, and now that jackd stopped both audio input and output are working.
If it wasn't for the fact that audio in linux has been a clusterfuck for years, I would have placed all the blame on valve's incompetence.
13489c No.16286346
>>16284457
Proton isn't even tied to Linux, let alone Steam. It's just a modified version of Wine for games; and it's all F/OSS.
7e32ed No.16287263
I think this one is really good for gaming
13489c No.16288580
>>16287263
It's also really good at spying and breaking shit with forced updates. No thanks. I'll just have to get by with the mere thousands and thousands of games I can run anyway on Linux. I mean, I guess I'll be missing out on some hot AAA garbage. Oh well~
0d9ad5 No.16288702
>>16288580
>~
You really shouldn't do that if you want to stay anonymous.
a5cedd No.16289276
>>16274612
> I'm literally retarded and I' going to prove it thepost.png
558fc9 No.16289317
>>16288909
That reminds me, it's a shame that mixtape.moe is going to be dead soon. Glad I grabbed those libbie archives while I could.
13489c No.16289322
>>16289317
I can always post them somewhere else again, but for fucks sake, it's been twelve times. I wish someone with the autism would just post it all on some 'booru or E6.
0d9ad5 No.16289333
>>16289322
I uploaded a bunch of them to 8-booru and exhentai a while back. Thinking of sharing the libbie archives and a fansite through IPFS too.
13489c No.16289352
>>16289333
Fitting digits.
db7d8d No.16291187
How do I trick people into making more Lutris installers?
0dab33 No.16294451
>>16291187
By making malware that forces people to make Lutris installers
4cd6c7 No.16298438
Honestly, after a long time of having to put some work to get things to work I just gave up. I use a Linux computer for just about everything and I have a second computer with Windows 7 that I use exclusively like a console.