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Beak Thing are some of the worst things I have ever had to fight in a game.

They're fucking everywhere on the map too.

>>16262604

Only because they're everywhere and numerous so when I take squads out to hunt ruins I can never take weaker squads unless I want to babysit them.

On top of that well you're in their territory they're aging so you stick around you get a bunch of elder beak things which have around 30-40 attack rate and defense rank

>>16262495

I've seen ingame pics with a similar armor as in pic 1. Is that a modded or something since I've never seen it and cant find it on wiki?

>>16262619

I've never had my attacks get blocked by them and I just manually dodge their attacks so their stats are pretty irrelevant to me.

If you're running away from them with a character slower than them just zig zag instead of running in a straight line. That way when they run ahead and start their attack animation you'll just change your direction slightly to either side to avoid it.

I do recommend grinding 1 guy to godlike status and then setting up in their territory. Its so good once you have walls and turrets set up. I managed to easily defeat wrath of god with 2 pretty shitty recruits using dual harpoon turrets in the base that I posted.

Game is too shallow and there's no scripting so it will never get nodded to improve. Exploring labs feels bad because you get resources and basically nothing else. Progression is very shallow, all you have are gear upgrades and limb replacements. The economy isn't modeled so nothing you do can matter besides triggering new static states. I hope he makes a sequel that addresses these flaws.

This game feels like a fever dream featuring Afro Samurai and Zeno Clash and I love it

>>16262656

Just makes me wish there was an option to take direct control of one guy with the combat system of mount&blade slapped on.

>Buy house from Squin that's already built and furnished

>Everything inside disappears

What the fuck, why?

I really love the idea of the game but

>>16262637

is completely right.

Also I seem to have an Issue where cities become completely barren around day 50.

>>16262637

>>16262705

My wild guess is that something probably goes wrong if for example a beds ownership is changed while an npc is using it.

What's the fastest way to train strength?

>>16262800

Using high level enemies as punching bags. Preferably skeletons with good armor strapped to a skelly repair bed for infinite beatings.

>>16262637

It's still really surprisingly addictive and fun though for what we got. Literally all it needs is proper scripting for mods and everything could be fixed but unfortunately probably never ever so yea hopefully in another 6 years.

>>16262634

You want Omo's armour for world. grab one of the mods that let you wear hats with goggles and other accessories as well while you're at it.

>>16262832

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Karen is worst girl.

Will this run on a toaster? The graphics look mid 2000s tier but that's no guarantee I've found.

>Be a drifter in a bar

>Some guy walks in and offers me a job in his army or something

>I manage to get him to pay my tab

>Guess I'll humor him and see what's up

>Mention that I'm no warrior, if he was imagining me fighting

>He laughs and says that he was planning on fixing me anyway

>Wut

>He takes me back to his base

>Immediately he begins beating me up

>A bunch of his other thugs armed with clubs join in too

>Bandages me up, but it's still hard to move, they broke a lot of my bones

>They strap 3 of the heaviest backpacks I've ever held onto me

>What the fuck is in these?

>Peek inside

>It's rocks

>They throw a full grown garu on top of me too

>RUN BOY

>I run with all of that on my back for several days

>I guess they're trying to kill me, because they haven't fed me. My ribs are showing and it feels like my stomach has shriveled up

>Finally collapse

>Am about to embrace death

>That fucker shows up again

>He gives me a dustwich

>Come on, now! We aren't even half way done yet!

>>16262917

yes and no. out of the box it'll run like shit on even moderate rigs. modded you should be able to play decently on a fairy shit computer. You'll just have to try it out for yourself with the various tweak mods to see if it's playable for you although I'm on a fairly old rig now and it runs pretty good although I also have it on an SSD.

>>16262926

I really think there should be more benefits to eating better food. I also wish there was better food than the stuff in the game. Dustwiches should have some kind of negative effect from the description they're given in game.

There sure is a lot of nearly fucking repeated word for word repeat faggots in this thread already. We heard your bullshit in the last thread. You met a bug, it ruined your day, or you can't play a game without giant "!" quest markers so you feel fucking lost. Game doesn't owe you more than it has already delivered, Kenshi basically surpasses any game you have ever played in scope, as is. Niggers.

>>16263091

That infograph is retarded, the obfuscation being done more and more these days is because of crawler bots and idiots who report copyright claims.By not talking about piracy you make it easier to find and single out pirates.

>>16263409

Not really though. It reminds me a lot of Elite Dangerous: Big but empty, looks intricate but isn't.

Do wells work in the deadlands? I know farming is out of the question, but could you do hydroponics?

>>16263454

Here is your (you).

>>16263480

You can get at least 10% water nearly everywhere, but to make that useful you are going to need to build 3 type III wells to do very much at all. (But so fucking what, wells are not hard to build nor do they take up a lot of space or electricity).

>>16262913

Thanks, I've been meaning to try this game for a while and just haven't had time.

you're right about Karen

>>16263503

Cool. I'm hoping to put together an Outpost in the deadlands. Since the acid is a natural barrier to invasions, I can deck out my dudes in dustcoats and straw hats for acid resistance and skeletons. Then I can focus on hacker damage for rogue robot attacks since if any fleshbags attack the land itself will defend me.

>mine iron ore

>character tells me that "the machine is full"

>inventory is empty

What do?

>>16265483

left click on ore vein, a panel should apear. put all ore from that panel into your inventory

>>16265505

Thanks.

>>16262817

It went 1.0 in december.

Dark skinned greenlanders or scorchlanders, which would you consider niggers?

>>16267537

This is some Mona Lisa tier ambiguity. Who is the one shouting "food"? The starving bandits? Or the beak things?

>>16267689

Is this what true art is now? If it is,I'm okay with that

Been trying to figure out dexterity leveling. Was told the best way to go about it is getting some rusty piece of shit katana and fighting hordes of weak enemies like fogmen, but this still seems kinda slow to me. Is this really the best way to do it? Seems counterintuitive that using better weapons would be worse.

>>16267851

Its because the experience is based on your relative strengths, not on the damage you do. So if you are at 1/1 attack/defense and attack someone at 20/20, you're guaranteed to get a few levels per hit/defense. Weaker weapons just mean combat lasts longer.

>>16267922

Seems to be that way and also described that way for melee attack/defence, but does the same apply to your base stats? My weapon stats for katana seem to have absolutely shot up in spite of fighting weaker enemies, so I suspect that isn't affected by it, but dexterity still seems very slow.

>>16267932

Base stats increase for each strike, so weaker weapons mean more hits to down an enemy which means more base stat gain per fight. This also applies to the weapon category skill. So the dex stat and the katana skill have more gain per fight using a weaker weapon. But using a weaker weapon means you're more likely to get your shit kicked in by higher level enemies, who fighting against can increase your melee attack and defense skills far faster than a weak foe. So it's a trade off.

>>16267932

weapon skill trains quickly, there really isnt too much to fear when it comes to combat especially since its so hard to die. You just have to be careful to not attack animals alone, or high level enemies like guard who can sever your limbs in 1 or 2 hits.

>>16267981

>>16267851

Experimenting a bit, I seem to get FAR more dex exp per hit with martial arts than I do with a shitty katana. MA reigns supreme once again.

What kind of damage does MA do? Blunt? It's affected by the defense multiplier for robots, right?

>>16267689

>>16267783

You both know the answer. Although the hungry bandits willingly charged in thinking lunch was at hand the result is a pile of humans for lunch.

>>16268716

There's none. You could use them as live dummies for safe training, but that's about it.

The game lacks depth and polish in a lot of areas. It feels like a case of scope creep where you try to do everything at once and end up being subpar at most of it. The game is still a ton of fun overall, but there's a lot of aspects that should've been fleshed out more.

>>16267619

shek.

>>16268045

l think dex is trained not based on cutting damage but on weight of the weapon. and you cannot go lighter then your fists

anyone knows for sure if recruitable prisoners mod has the leader of swamp ninjas?

I heard that the game has issues with modding but then I hear the the game is moddable so which is it?

>>16268900

The game is moddable, but not extensively. There's lack of scripting support, but you can easily change resources and shit with the construction set.

>>16268900

it doesnt allow custom scripts. thats it. so you cannot insert dragon futas raping beakthings into it and change core mechanics. thats it.

everything else, like adding new weapons/textures/items/buildings/whatever the fuck is piss easy

>>16268921

>>16268915

Thank you for the reply. Kind of lame since there won't be any major overhauls for now but maybe in the future the devs will fix this issue.

What race mods are popular in this game? anything orc or ogre-like related except for the reskinned warcraft races?

>>16269250

If they just flesh out everything more I'll be happy. I'll be super extra happy if there's script support for mods.

>>16269003

well just by using logic

>you can delete foliage, trees, houses, other elements of scenery

>as mods, especially infamous bandits expansion and minor factions expansion shows, you can change the height of terrain

>you could change region borders and its resources and other shit like weather

>all assets can be changed

so all it takes is for some autist to manually change elevation of everything to be under see level and then we will have a clean slate to play on. and this is just a brute force solution l am sure that it would be possible to just swap the map file somehow

>>16269218

shek in vanilla are oni death cultists that use dragon slayer from berserk as their main racial weapon.

there is also a mod called ogre start that let you play as "ogre", they are just very buff very strong hivers. it is surprisingly well done

>>16269250

well l am okay with this

Doesn't that mean it's going to be somewhat more sci-fi? Like the eye and the venge lasers are gonna be controlled by them and such right? I wonder if it's set at the end of the empire or during it's height.

>>16269250

>possible firearm combat

Can't wait for the firing squad.

>>16269316

I saw it I believe, but I want something less retarded bone plates on the skin and just have a generic large humanoid.

>>16269344

Probably so, which is going to be very interesting to see how they handle it. I'm slightly concerned about how firearms will work though. There's no possible way the empire could put an orbital laser satellite in space and not have guns on the ground, but guns will make the melee obsolete. What are they planning?

>>16269360

Maybe remove flinching from being shot if you have appropriate armour?

>>16269344

Probably decline. Falling empires are always good fun. We'll doubtless see Cat-Lon doing Cat-Lon things and the rise of the Holy Nation.

My biggest hope is that there'll be a feature that will let you import world state from Kenshi 2 to Kenshi 1, i.e. if you killed the first Holy Phoenix, the HN won't exist in Kenshi 1. Bonus points if instead of just having base building features, you can declare yourself an empire and set basic laws, then export the world state to Kenshi 1 and your empire will actually exist if it was strong enough to survive, with whatever laws you set up still in effect - slavery, no wimminz, banned races, etc.

If they would remake kenshi on godot engine it would be 1000x faster and better looking also mod support would be insane.

when do raids start happening?

>>16269344

old empire is cat-loons empire. so it will be still post-apo but instead of

>everything is shit and there is no hope of fixing it

it will be

>shit is fucked BUT WE WILL FIX IT I SWEAR WE CAN FIX IT IF WE JUST TRY A BIT HARDER

>>16269358

you can have just a very big human or hiver generaly race altering mods focus on making cute girls, surprising no one

>>16269403

I saw an oni mod. I like the horns but I hate the third eye.

>>16269403

I thought ca-lon was 2nd empire?

>>16269413

There were two. The one that is generally referred to as old empire is the second, the first is even further back and mostly forgotten.

>>16269413

l think old empire is second and first one is just called ancient

>>16269420

did the second empire fell like 1000 years ago? automatons like skeletons are that old.

>>16269444

>>16269432

>>16269420

>>16269413

There have been a total of three apocalyptic events, this is either after the first, or during the second.

The robot reich is the third.

>>16269250

So an updated engine and reused assets? Might be the perfect sequel.

>>16269711

Someone modded guns into the game?

Thats neat.

>>16269878

that can't be that hard since crossbows are already in and they need ammo, just swap graphics.

>>16270069

Even though I defend 1.x as is, I sure as hope fuck they do some more post-release patches and possible add some support before jumping off ship to something else. Although it wouldn't fucking matter, I've already spent maybe a thousand hours in this game since version .93

>>16262705

Had that bullshit screw me over. I was so desperate for a place to stay in the swamps I just bought a place thinking I could use it as an easy forward base. Lesson learned I guess. Bought a few sleeping bags and called it a day.

>>16271224

Don't worry they'll sell out to tencent too

>>16271506

Welcome to the rice fields motherfucker.

>>16262495

Sum up why I should pirate Kenshi in one sentence.

>>16271923

It's quicker than pirating it in two sentences.

>>16271224

inb4 Epic exclusive

IT'S TRULY BEEN A ROUNDABOUT PATH CHALLENGE

>Wanderer Start

>You get to recruit 1 guy

>Beat Cat-Lon and his army of 120 stormthralls with your band of 2

<Ideas

<Use the second guy as a bailout medic to keep your first guy alive and make training toughness not simply just a crapshoot

<Turn guy 1 into a hacker Lord, and the seconds guy into a turret operator, first guy has taunt and uses constructed defenses to funnel all the stormthralls into a chokepoint while the second guy rains down bolts

>>16273413

Another additional practicality to the challenge would be to just have the first 2 guys be the only combat people in your party and have as many peasants as you want to work through tech levels and Smith weapons. Though you'd have to make due with purchased property. Can't kill Cat-Lon and defend a base at once.

>>16273964

import.

>>16273964

Make more of all your storage

>>16274081

check if your builder's inventory is full, that was always my issue. Turn "ditch items" on in the AI options, be careful though cause if you want someone to actually have an item from a storage building you need to either make sure they're using it, out of range, or selected so they don't automatically go put it back.

>>16274558

Have your friend do Elins instead.

>>16273964

This is always human error. You fucked up somewhere. Turn on jobs, make sure inventories are not full, make sure your production is working, reassign jobs make sure everything is moving.

You guys know that one house in the hub right?

After stealing the shit inside, I've beaten some starving bandits and carried one to the bed. After a few minutes the items respawned. Pls explain

Who else here has their base entirely staffed by naked barefeet waifus

>>16275739

No, I just have lolis.

>>16274558

But the warhammer orcs doesn't fit the Kenshi aestetics. I just want ogrish humans that aren't filled with crappy spines or third eyes.

>>16276107

Fuck, I mean warcraft orcs.

>>16276107

>Not!Onis in kenshi

>They make little villages and hunt for people to eat

>They knock you out and throw you into a cooking pot which works like a peeler, slowly killing you while your guy screams

>>16276123

Exactly, I want to make an oni, with horns if needed, but the only oni mod I found is kinda retarded.

So.. I don't know what the fuck I did but.. it seems all the mines have gone from 100 (or so) to percent to 10 percent. I have several mods, I am also experimenting and making my own mods.. but I have never even figured out how to fucking modify mines and it seems like a global change or something.. I have no fucking idea..

>>16274558

I wanna fuck that

>>16276454

Because no scripting.

I played this for a while but I noticed it's incomplete, did I get scammed and trolled?

There's virtually nothing to do

>>16280153

Let's assume for a moment you're not cripplingly retarded. What did you imagine the game was about?

>>16280137

Less Foilage and Rocks, and Texture Options.

>>16280229

>less

how un-optimized is this game?

>>16280236

It's a current year game, how unoptimized do you think it is?

>>16280239

dunno its look like a from '09 probably too much wishful thinking on my part

>>16280239

>current year game

>10+ years in development

>>16280137

if your pc isn't old/toaster you don't need any mods to play it all, and shouldn't use any especially to start. if your pc power is so-so, pick up the

>>16280229

after you learn the game for what it is, mod it to your own taste. some early exmamples if you must is, unlimited squad size and 3:1 combat instead of 1:1.

t.mod maker

>>16280153

How big is your settlement ?

Have you completed the research tree ?

Have you explored the entire map ?

Have you tried the different game starts ?

Have you tried some mods ?

Its not empty, it just does not spoonfeed you quest markers like its a ubisoft game.

Y'all talk about never buying, but then you turn around and don't offer a fucking download for this game.

>>16281425

As far as I've heard they are the best animals of the game.

how can I play this shid without steam installation

>>16262637

Well Kenshi 2 has been announced. Kenshi 1 will get an update with an updated engine and their own path finding.

Does this game have snowed mountains or lakes? something that isn't just sand or wasteland.

>>16281713

There's jungles, swamps, wetlands, forests, grassy plains, mountains, and ashy wastelands, the Ashlands look like snow, too. But it's all got the theme of wasteland. Lots of rusted out ruins everywhere on the map.

>>16281727

Where can I live my goat herder life isolated of all the fucking faggots and shooting them down as they come up the mountain? Also, can you claim ruins to build your base there?

>>16281665

If kenshi 2 gets scripting for modding what are the chances of it coming to kenshi 1?

I think I did it. I finnaly killed a Holy Farm.

I mean, a couple days ago, I had 6 dumb fuckers aggoring one paladin at a time, luring the unsuspecting fool to his doom behind a dune, then repeating until we were all too injured to continue.

But then I sold their crap, bought gear, did training, hired more, and then I went back there.

I killed them all. Not just the Holy Nation men, but the Holy Nation Women and Holy Nation children too.

GODDAMN, THIS FEELS FUCKING GOOD.

It's a band of 22 with good stats now, and I just came back from a long-ass expedition that outfitted half of us with edge walkers.

THIS IS GONNA BE A GENOCIDE AHAHAHAHAH.

>>16281700

I wish this game had a reputation system where once you look badass enough small fry will start thinking twice about attacking you. I know they're desperate and all but when 10 starving bandits attacks 20 well equipped dudes, that's bullshit.

>>16281859

Is an auto butchery modded already to turn fallen corpses into food?

>>16281960

Butcher Limbs:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1325191078

Butcher + Biofuel (use corpses as fuel)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1431654778&searchtext=butcher

Salguther Pot (intended to kill animals, works on people)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1369426563&searchtext=corpse

>>16282019

Oh nice.

how do you guys feel about stat penalties vs armor protection

the vast majority of my guys are running around in armored rags and ninja rags while my "heavies" use black plate. Its easy to deck guys with strength based weapons with heavy armor but id hate to give dexterity penalties to people with cutting or hybrid weapons.

>>16282532

dex penalties also level dex faster

>>16282532

Think about it like this:

No matter how fast or how cutting a weapon is, if the guy holding it goes down, it will do 0 damage.

So it depends on what you're fighting. If it's lightly armored (or not armored at all), you should avoid Dexterity penalties: you kill them so fast, they don't have time to deal damage.

However, if you're fighting heavily armored targets, it's a slugish attrition battle. And no matter how good your weapon and skill is, if all it takes is two hits to take you down, you WILL go down.

Now look at these situation and realize that if you ever get it, injuries will also severely penalize your dexterity (and strength, but that's besides the point).

"Heavies" are used as shock troopers. Send them to soak up damage. They'll innevitably attack slower and get countered by mobs. Your Masterwork Samurai Plate is worthless against 75 cannibals.

Your "Lighties" should be used as flankers. Let the Heavies start, keep attention on them and flank with lighties.

Lighties are also good for Crossbow-related uses. Set up a firing line, draw in enemies.

Heavies charge forward to soak enemy hits while your firing line splits in two, and flanks.

However, my general rule is: light armour is not for combat. It's something you use to avoid dying as fast when you're running away.

Lightly-armoured guys are great for thieving/assassinations. It's worth keeping 3-4 assassins around, they can get you out of a bad spot with some quick "visit" to a trader. And there's a lot of situations where an Assassination prevents a lot of shit coming your way.

>>16282642

oh cool

>>16282800

im more concerned with dealing with single dangerous targets like bounties. i felt like in a battle between two highly skilled fighters a x.8 penalty to attack or dex would be crippling

So the hivers and sheks are genetically modified humans made by the second empire? If Kenshi 2 is set before the fall of the empire, does that mean there won't be hivers or sheks?

>>16283859

The hivers are a genetically modified worker caste or possibly mutants. It's not clear if the first or second empire created them.

>>16282800

Or you could just train dodge, toughness and be even more durable than guys in full samurai armor while being able to kill 1-4 guys in a single hit.

>>16283896

the skeletons probably created hivers after they pondered the idea of them being a servant race they rebelled due to free will. So they had the idea of making their own servant race except without any cognitive thought and partially made of the same materials i.e hive queens. Shek are also a servant race known as enforcers during this time but it's still up in the air to who made them but their purpose is clear.

>>16284406

>inb4 insert_rapefugee_joke.jpg

>>16278020

Wait really? Why?

>>16284566

the amount of shit modders added throught walkarounds and creativity is pretty impressive still

>>16284744

you are looking for fashion craftables kenshi.

>>16284760

That might be what I'm looking for. It seems to allow me to wear a hat with goggles, for example.

Can anyone upload the GOG installer to a mega?

I don't think this breast jiggle mod works. Is there a new version or is it just not compatible with the latest version?

>>16285252

it works. you just need to mind your mod order. i don't think its compatible with any mods that modify the skeleton of the model.

>>16285125

this shot really clips the feet a lot, is that a warrior drone wearing a helmet?

>>16285230

how is it your beep has all his limbs dressed like that?

>>16285023

nice flesh cleaver

>>16284917

300 caps per head? you must be a billionaire.

>>16284744

this can be done in 5 minutes on your own.

open fcs, change goggles to belt slot,

change google size to fit in belt slot. ..

>>16286117

He doesn't have feet or chest slots, that's just pants, armor and hat.

Each hiver has different slots.

>>16269250

>1000 years in the past

IT will probably be on the tail end of the empire then.

We will most likely meet people like the first phoenix and cat-lon as well at tinfist

Same with all of the other skeletons like burn and co.

I forgot the timeline. I think it was spess wars. skeleton uprising, first empire, second, then what ever.

>>16269360

Ohyeah, you are forgetting one key thing about the eye.

it only works during the day meaning it focuses the sunlight to work as a laser

<<16280194

trading, base building, diplomacy, doing quests and jobs

now tell me, how much does lofi pay you?

>>16286847

What did he say?

>>16286939

ctrl+f "16280194"

>>16286847

I'm sorry but Tor faggots cannot be taken seriously.

Why the fuck do you linger in this thread.. and thread after thread.. 99% of all Tor comments are straight up trolling.

>>16284406

THAT ROBOT MUST HAVE FOOD..

Is decapitation a thing in Kenshi? I have never seen someone take enough damage to their head without getting knocked out or killed to see it.

>>16287137

sadly, for some reason, it isnt. shame because there is no reason why it shouldnt be possible to implement

wow the hounds

don't usually ally with these dudes.. come to find out when I finally decided to build a base, they show up for the very first raid to assist me, although it wasn't needed, it was super cool man

>>16286847

Joke's on you, the game is actually about getting raped by bandits and saving up until you can own your very own weed farm

>>16287506

I'd be happy with just cars and motorcycles so I can live out my mad max biker gang fantasies

>>16287570

>flotsamites?

>was going to say your armor is OP but those penalties are not joking..

>what the hell are those swords?

>>16287594

the fuck

Is it just me, or does this game have the same thematic feel as STALKER? It's a bunch of little things that add up to the overall feel. Big ruins that freelance adventures go out and risk their lives for scraps, really simple names to the factions (Cannibals, Holy Nation, Anti-Slavers, Slave Traders, Freedom, Duty, Ecologists), oddly comfy slow periods in between exciting action.

>>16287963

Got the same feeling. It's also unstable as fuck, which adds to the STALKER feel.

>>16287594

>>what the hell are those swords?

first one is from euro swords (most current version is called lords armory and has other items that let you larp as crusader) or from more plausible weapons. honestly both mods are trash with overpowered, bad looking, not fitting setting at all weapons. l dont know why l still have it installed.

the other one is western hive sword from same mod as armor. it is pretty nice

>>16287963

Too bad none of the roaming mobs have a goal for the most part.

I just can't get invested in this game. It's game play is cool but it feels kinda pointless/aimless. I have no investment into anything or direction. Wish it was multiplayer or something.

>>16288178

Join the Anti-Slavers and start a terrorist cell. Build up your strength and a crack team of terrorists then destroy the United Cities and the Slavers Guild. There's a goal for a plenty fun playthrough. If you get enslaved first and escape, you can join the Anti-Slavers for free instantly.

Where should I set up my permanent base? Border Zone has this flat area near the ruined settlement that looks ripe for basebuilding, but I'm afraid of geting zergrushed by the dust bandits near it.

>>16288178

Make a ganja farm with your peasants, profit through running a drug trade and destroying the morals of the United Cities, run your murderhobos through the Holy Nations and burn them to the ground, raise an army of crustaceans and sic them on your enemies for fun and profit, explore the world and find out what the fuck just happened to this wasteland and everything in it.

You just gotta find what you want to do.

>>16288187

>>16288218

Build a slaving empire?

>>16288224

>Install Slavery Mod

>Enslave all faction leaders

>>16288229

>Not installing the improved character editor and feminizing them first

>Not having a nude mod and breast physics installed

>>16288239

Calm your penis, I want Emperor Tengu to pick my cotton. I don't want to fuck him.

>>16288239

>Character editor

Does that mod allow you to edit your character without needing the surgery?

>>16288224

Speaking of slaving empires, I do want to create a scenario where you can capture and enslave hungry bandits and eventually reform them into working members of my kingdom. They can have all the food they can get, granted they work with me to grow it.

How the fuck do you keep slaves after buying it from a slaver though? I have to beat mine up every time it tries to escape.

>install furniture mod

>make a bar where I store all my booze and food barrels

>Put tables and chairs around

>My guys come by and sit down at a table when they're idle

The comfy has expanded

>>16288325

I wonder if you can set up a tavern like that in towns, cause that just sounds comfy

>>16288352

Yeah, you can just set it to public and fill the store cabinet with booze. People will stop by and buy stuff.

hmm you're probably gonna need the player's AI mod. it got a ring that lets you buy and keep slaves. (and also lets you enslave prisoners.) they'll still resist and try and run away occasionally tho. also you might want to start off with the slave capture scenario it has that has squads with slave upkeep/capture AI. as apparently you cant change squad properties on the fly.

its really clunky but you can build a outpost willed with slaves that work for you and even capture and heal up enemy invaders.

>capture bandit

>put him in a peeler

>take him out when limbs pop off and heal him up

>Repeat until portable bandit is made

>Put food into his inventory and put him on a bed

>Sick your trainees on him and let them train weapons skills

>Heal up your bandit of any wounds

>His existence is constant agony. He has been transformed into a weapons skill training dummy

>>16288697

inefficent

you should do that with skelingtons as repair beds fix them at amazing rate (unless its blunt damage), and most skeletons are avaiable with already high skill levels so you can train further

>>16288826

>Recruit depressed skeleton in black desert city

>Take him back to camp

>Toss him into a peeler and violently tear off his limbs

>Toss him into a skeleton repair bench

>His screams echo for millennia as he is trapped in agony for years as a training dummy

>One day you finally take him out and install new skeleton limbs

<Okay, good job. Toughness training is done and you even helped out with everyone else's training too. Now onto strength training.

>>16288962

Skeletons should consider themselves lucky that they can't feel hunger.

>>16288697

>Not just training assassination and doing this with cat-lon or bugmaster with good armor meaning you pretty much never have to stop

I'm also pretty sure I never fed bugmaster when I tied used him as a training dummy.

>>16284406

>at least I still have the constitution.jpg

>>16288697

Punching bags with no limbs always give me shitty exp gains.

Is it possible to open up a shop in a city? I don't want to just run hashish over and over since that is boring. I see shop counters are buildable and I got a mod that allowed my outpost to be populated by citizens but every says something like "I can't afford this" with shit that is only like 500-1000 cats. I saw the populated cities mod on the workshop but people are saying that it breaks the game since citizens buy police stations, all the houses, and it hasn't been updated in a year.

>>16289158

it is but you should get enhanced shopping economy l am pretty sure it was made by one of ours to make npcs buy different things as in base game they pretty much only buy food and medkits sometimes. also they get income.

also if you get this also get functioning market stalls mod. it just adds traders to all these emptoy market stalls everywhere. good for immersion and a reliable source of standard quality turtlenecks

>>16289210

Well I did it with that mod but unfortunately everyone just walks in on my shop and says they can't afford it. I feel like any mod that adds new economy doesn't ever work.

>>16289301

maybe they are just poor dirt farmers. the mod makes it so people get money relativly to their job, so for example tech hunters and mercs can buy things reliably

>>16289312

Ahh I see. It explains the armored buff guys buying some sake. Gues I have to stock my shit with shit tier to high tier items.

>>16288239

Is that an ingame editor that lets you change their sex? I don't see anything googling improved character editor. Got a link?

>>16289330

I was just bullshitting, it doesn't exist.

>>16289210

>>16289158

The real question is, is it even possible to get visitors for Vain even with the mods for it? I assume beakniggers keep intercepting them.

>>16289536

civilians are spawned in a city unless it's your outpost.

>>16288962

>turning sadneil into a training dummy

You deserve to get spawned into the centre of arach with only a chest full of human teeth to protect you against the bugmaster and his army of bullshit

>Recruited some random guy for free

>Forgot to edit his name

>His name is stupid and he has no skills

>Tell him to go play in the fog islands

>>16291408

isnt' haram an islamic word? I don't have a dude so, technically I've got.. something else. I wasted those fucking paladins that showed up so fucking fast it didn't matter, on account of having lived in the hub for 150+ days and having edge weapon tech.. etc.

>>16290986

> all little girl action squad

> no self-insert oniichan to chill at base and give orders

You brought the destruction upon yourself.

>>16291464

>isnt' haram an islamic word

Hownew.ru

Is martial arts affected by the multipliers of armor? I'd expect MA to fall under blunt damage but comparing my Kung Fu master to my club lords against armor seems to favor my Kung Fu master for some reason

Im interested in playing this game. can i create an ethnostate and commit genocide?

can you actually wipe out an entire species in the game? or will they infinitely spawn.

>>16292542

You can let cities be conquered and crush factions. But full and complete genocide isn't in the game.

>>16292579

You can however make a killing by farming bandits and skinning them alive. Then you sell their tanned hides for a profit

>>16291696

It is (you can see the little minus damage modifiers when you hit someone). It's probably just because of either your weapon sucks compared to your MA + strength of your martial artist or various other factors. MA in general was designed to be OP as shit at high levels.

>>16292579

By the time you ruin their cities, because of the harsh nature of the world it's basically genocide anyway.

>>16290986

i cant find the download of that mod even if it gets mentioned everytime, any other more mods that makes the characters prettier?

>>16294103

also add

+ faces plus

+ nude shek

>>16269250

>Set during the reign of the first empire

Which empire? The ancient one with the giant death robots or the other one let by Cat-Lon and Tinfist opressing humans until the first Phoenix leads a rebellion?

>>16296714

Probably near the end of the former rather than the latter. It could bleed a little into the robo reich though I guess.

>>16296714

are you supposed to find all that info on notes or by talking to npcs? i dug up plenty of old labs and workshops whit my lvl 70 sneak thief and i dont find any kind of historic record

>>16297250

Travel around with a skeleton. They have unique dialog for a lot of areas. Also talk to faction leaders

>>16297250

A lot of is hidden behind talking to various faction leaders. There are also a bunch of a books that have speculation. Bear in mind there are also faction leader's who's faction is generally hostile to you but you can still talk to them if you right click and scroll down to talk to. Or sneak in.

If the ancient empire had giant death robots, why did they also have swords to refit and resharpen? I'd imagine that once you have the tech for Gundam sized skeletons you don't really need sharp metal sticks anymore.

>>16299109

Speaking of nipponese steel

>Master Weapon Smith

>Every weapon he makes is lower quality than any weapon of the same rank made by anyone else

>Even at 100 weaponsmithing he can only make edge type 2 weapons that are worse than edge type 2s made by edgecrafters

>No steel folding station

>Can't power level to make masterworks equal to Cross

Crafting isn't bad, it's actually pretty fun to source materials and have a guy work away mass producing swords. But the game itself discourages you from being a blacksmith. Why? What does it accomplish to make everything you make worse?

>>16299194

I guess it's just lore, some hobos in a desert are never going to be as advanced as a robot civilization who autistically grinds this shit for eternity

>>16299239

But I'm not a hobo in the desert anymore I have been grinding this shit for eternity.

>>16299253

Can you make giant death robot or place giant focusing laser in the sky?

Thats what I thought.

Hobo.

>>16299287

They are legendary. For hobo standards.

>>16299194

I disagree. Edge2 weapons, can be massed produced of any fucking type on demand. That is good enough, also, I think real "legendary=meitou" weapons in the hands of unique "boss-level" dudes is a good and nice reason to go kill the fuckers and motivates people to do shit. This is one aspect of the game that is spot on. imho

>>16268716

There is a mod where you can try and recruit prisoners.

>>16299317

It's also overpowered as fuck and I have mixed feelings on it.

>>16268716

Hopefully modding autism figure out a way to inject scripts into the game so more complex mods can be created.

>>16299322

It is, but it also depends on the niggers you capture.

Is a falling sun better than a plank? Is the speed worth losing the unbridled power of a plank?

>Master archer with masterwork old world bow can hit anything

>except skin spiders

>every super accurate shot always flies over skin spiders

Is the aiming for skin spiders botched? It's like archers aim for a non existant head right about the skin spiders.

I've been trying to do a hive only game but I have no idea how to gain high amounts of recruits while staying peaceful to the Hives.

Are there any mods or certain unlimited recruit spawns?

>>16300138

Adventurer's Guild Recruitment places headhunters around that will take freshly spawned new blood to your base for a fee

>>16299075

Sidearms for officers/ceremonial wear? massive weeb population?

>>16299301

this, arming up a squad of 12-18 faggots with edge3 weapons is just not fucking worth it. while your main should get to walk around with a cross. once she earned it. along with who ever managed to last long enough for me to remember their names.

>>16299963

falling sun is THE BEST weapon in the game

>>16300130

they are harder to hit then anything else in the game due to their size.they actually have really tinny hitboxes

>>16300801

mods will fix it…. scale the model up or whatever he is shooting down?

>>16300681

>>16299963

>Is a falling sun better than a plank? Is the speed worth losing the unbridled power of a plank?

<falling sun is THE BEST weapon in the game

^this

BUT the reason is that the falling sun scales off of both dex and strength. and falls short of the plank or fragment ax in range. so a max strength character may be better off with a plank, or better a fragment ax. while quality builds and end game max level shenanigans will have better dps with the falling sun. and on top of that dex increases damage output not only with cutting weapons but also increases attack speed. so even with some blunt shit you will see your total dps go up with dex. (not to mention the "combat speed" increase also increases the "block rate") getting from 20-to 50 dex will drastically increase your damage output even with your 90 strength build far better than going from 90-95 strength. mot to mention your survivablility with your increased block rate. So picking up split damage weapons(lol falling sun) or cross training weapon types IS the best way to go, even if you want to meme out with the plank/fragment ax.

TLDR.

> you cripple your character by going pure strength. cutting its attack and block speed BUT if you are already committed to strength then yes the plank is better BUT BUT you should really just jack up your dex and go with Falling Sun

>>16302165

>The whiter a weapon is, the higher quality it is

Is the dev of this game based?

I started a new playthrough. Gonna try to become a Kung Fu master. I did a wanderer start and immediately blew all my money on random crap then dropped it on the ground and ran off to UC and got into a fist fight with the Slavers. I never realized how elaborate the slavers network was. I got enslaved, and the Slavers took me back to the nearest city where I was stripped and prepped and caged, then after a wait a caravan came and took all the slaves in a big convoy to the main quarry where the UC's building components are made.

>>16302993

Nope. Read the description of Greenlanders and Scorchlanders and tell me that he doesn't hate whites. Also he made some shitty smug "prices increased because of Brexit" posts for his patchnotes

>>16294036

>You'd basically have to…

so, yes?

>>16303028

Where are the greenlands and scorchlands exactly?

>>16303104

Greenlands north in world map.

Scorchlands south in world map.

>>16303104

they are officialy nowhere and distinction is pretty much arbitrary, but greenlands can be considered terrains of holy nation and deadcat, possibly also swamps, hook and fishland, while scorchlands are generally main united cities territory but scorchlanders are by their very nature incompetent administrators so it is multicultural hellhole

>>16303189

its more like west/east split

Phoenix did nothing wrong

>>16303028

>Greenlander/scorchlander descriptions means he hates whites.

Take your meds anon.

I haven't played kenshi in a week because its the only game I have enjoyed in years and am afraid of what to do after its over.

>>16307549

>getting triggered by a joke

Imagine being a nigger cuck

>>16310191

Getting caught by fogniggers again and again is better.

>tfw running an all karate squad

>tfw you just have to sell cross swords because no one knows how to use them

This hurts me in ways I didn't anticipate

>>16269250

that is pretty cool.

so basically a different map and different setting in the past. PLUS BACKPORTED KENSHI 1 so kenshi 1 will still be supported and modders are seeing some new light to the game seeing as tubers are bringing people to the game

>cashgrab

i bought it for next to nothing 6-7 years ago in some bundle

Is there anything more satisfying than being beat up for weeks, having everyone shit on you, having to kneel and beg before fat nobles, then getting /fit/ and coming back and fucking dropkicking them into next week? I'm thinking no.

>>16285230

I prefer the orange pants.

>>16294007

There is a futa mod?

I found a way to forcefully add NPC's into your squad/faction in the game editor. There are a few problems with it, which is why I am posting here. I'm going to explain how I did this to hopefully get some help from anons.

After opening the game editor, close the window pop-up and click open any. go into the save folder and find your save name and open the file. Inside that file, open platoon and it shows all the squads the game keeps. Find your squad, it should be named after your faction, so if it's the default it should be NAMELESS_0.platoon. After opening the file, a window called "game world" will appear and scrolling to the bottom you can see all the squad members for that specific squad. Clicking them will open all of there stats can you can change them there. Continuing, click changes at the top and other window will pop up. Clicking "GAMESTATE_CHARACTER" will open the important info. Each member of your faction has a owner faction ID. Coping the ID and switching to a NPC .platoon file and replacing their owner faction ID with yours will force them to join your faction. But this is where my problems are. They are fully controllable and have a name above them like other squad members, but they do not appear in the squad menus or have a squad portrait texture, meaning you can't select them from the squad menu and have to manually select them with the world view. Does anyone know how to add them to a squad if I had added them this way?

What's a good way to train Strength in a non grindy way? It's dawned on me that I start playing by immediately getting enslaved and just letting the game run overnight or through the day while I'm at work with an inventory full of shackles. I'm spending more game time not playing it than I am playing it. What's an alternative way aside from weigh down and walk around? Get heavy armor and a heavy weapon and get in fights? Mix with toughness training? Or maybe just heavy armor and no weapon for MA and Dex training too?

>>16322955

>grinding strength

>afk grinding strength

This meme needs to die. Just play and it will rise naturally.

T. 70 strength Martial Arts fag

>>16322955

>What's a good way to train Strength in a non grindy way?

Install weight bench mod

So why do you think Tinfist started the Anti-Slavers? Did his conscience catch up with him after ruling and opressing non-skeletons with Cat-Lon? Did Gatwood the Soft actually start it and die tragically, leaving the brawny and skilled, but rather dim Tinfist in charge? It's interesting that Spring is so close to the Ashlands.

>>16269250

release date: december 2069

There should be more race specific starts. There should be a Shek warrior start where you start in Stenn, maybe another Shek start for Krol's Chosen, a Southern Hive Start, and a Cannibal Start.

>>16299194

>Why aren't these retards I purchased in a bar for a few thousand pennies once-in-a-civilization tier geniuses?

>>16329601

They were retards I got for a thousand pennies in some bar in the wastes, but not anymore. They've practiced their craft for ages and forged thousands of swords. That's what the whole game is about: Going from a useless piece of shit to a force to be reckoned with through pure hard work and grit. You can reach legendary heights in everything except weaponsmithing.

>>16329697

Seems like my IP changed because I'm phone posting but I'm 469a5e.

>>16329697

I'm glad it doesn't allow you to, so that the reality of tabula rasa being a lie haunts you even in your escapist media. It should be a thorn in your side that drives you to self-overcoming or suicide.

>>16329770

Real or not, this is Tabula Rasa: The Game. It's strange that weaponsmithing alone was selected to be the sole exception to the theme of improvement.

In this game, the only form of "talent" are racial bonuses. And that only determines how easily and quickly a character grasps a skill, not how skilled he can become. In Kenshi a hive worker can beat an armored and armed Shek warrior, barehanded and naked with enough practice.

>>16329780

I suppose I only wish there were genetics and eugenics.

At my chosen spot for my base, attackers rarely will actually approach the gate… they usually just stand a few dozen meters away from the gate, usually out of crossbow turret range. It’s an advantage, strictly speaking, but it doesn’t feel fun. I tried importing the game and constantly use the navmesh thing. Is it because I have a second entrance?

>>16329829

Move a guy out there and bring him back towards the outpost from different angles you should be able to narrow down the problem to a rock or something that's breaking the pathfinding. Build a wall or something there to try to influence the pathfinding and get people to move around.

>>16329885

I did build in the bone yards, next to the swamp. It’s probably my massive source of metal. Maybe I can really overextend my kill box

>>16329697

>>16329780

Pretty sure there's a mod that lets you make stuff that's at least a level higher.

>>16326902

he is probably doing it to destabilize the UC also the implied lore of him standing between the UC and Cat loin….. him generally not giving a fuck about collateral damage and basically going out of his way to cause as much of it as possible. with his call to push out the peasant class to cause a famine has probably killed more people than he could have possibly fought against(muh "no killing") and i'm 90% sure even if you get the empire peasants and the anti slavers to join you to over throw the empire they turn hostile to each other the moment the empire is dead. (unless something else fucked up happened in my game)

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>>16333675

>if you get the empire peasants and the anti slavers to join you to over throw the empire they turn hostile to each other the moment the empire is dead. (unless something else fucked up happened in my game)

It actually makes sense.

Post-liberation UC sucks in another ways than UC with nobles.

Town guards are overall weaker/lack heavy armor, trade guild collapsed, all UC cities on south are either dead or were overrun depending on how many minor factions player destroyed there and some cities as Catun get fucked either way.

>>16334337

Just start building wherever. Buy property and get some research done and get a scientist if you want to prospect for good locations.

>>16334367

Build in Venge or the middle of the Border Zone for fun

>>16334467

>Do you guys have any problem finding recruits in bars?

No.

>Have you guys encountered this problem?

It shouldn't happen unless you are out of space for any new members. You can see max in squad tab, but you probably have 256 squad limit mod.

So try looking in Waystations and Hub, these usually have at least few drifters around.

>>16334370

>>16334367

Why the fuck my comment was deleted by the first iron suit?

>>16335486

*Iron man suit.

>>16334467

Vanilla squad numbers max out at around 30 or so, after which recruits stop spawning I think. Mod and import.

>tfw wandering the Great Desert hunting for rebel farmers to sell to the slavers

It's tough work, but someone's got to do it.

>>16338607

Seems about right, but you forgot to mention fogmen.

>>16338607

>Greenlanders are ubermensch

Cannibals are greenlanders.

>>16323057

Or you could afk farm it to 90 in a few hours but hey, if you want to do shit inefficiently up to you I guess.

>>16338814

>Turks are European!

Appearances aren't everything

>>16339115

>M-muh efficiently

BEHOOLLLD THE ASPIE AND HIS AUTISTIC WAAAAAYYSSS.

Journey not destination man.

The UC really is a beautiful place.

>No one is poor because poverty is illegal

>Friendly employment agents patrolling the deserts searching for any unfortunate souls who slipped through the cracks and immediately send them to public employment

They would have met an unfortunate and lonely end in the desert, but now, thanks to the wonderful work of the Trader's Guild, they're given the opportunity to live and work for the public good, food and board provided!

>>16339963

THANK YOU LORD TENGU!!

YOU ARE SO SMART AND GENEROUS AND HANDSOME!

>>16339963

Jokes aside, slavery is easy way to grind stats.

Especially, when you manage to fill your entire equipment either with iron or multiple shackles.

>>16338607

SHEK DINDU NUFFIN. IRON GOLEM ESATA BE DESCENDED FROM QWANZ. NEED MO MONEY FO DEM FRAGMENT AXES

>>16340314

Beak Things are just misunderstood! It's the owners, not the animal!

-The last words of an animal rights activist, just before heading off to protest in Vain

Alright is there like a way to find the location of certain NPCs cause I can't fucking find Bayan anywere in the shek kingdom, don't want to import either cause taking down Bugmaster was a fuckfest I don't want to repeat.

>>16338607

Is there anything more satisfying than luring golem into your fort with 20 crossbows?

>>16341162

Use forgotten construction set.

Shek Kangdom capital.

A long time ago, even longer than the dawn of the Ancients. Krol wuz a promordial cyber-philosopher-kang. He ruled the technologically advanced kangdom from his flying crystal pyramid. It was he who created the skeletons and the scorchlanders.(the scorchlanders birthed the Greenlanders from incest and mutations)

They enjoyed peace and prosperity like the world had never seen before.

But one day, the evil Greenlander devils emerged from their caves and plotted to assassinate Krol. They stabbed him in the back, distracting him long enough for them to bury him in 600000 cuts. Unfortunately, without Krol to calibrate the melenin of the world, the First Extinction begun.

>>16341180

Actually I'm waiting for that rape mod solely so I can pass the stone golem around to hungry bandits

>>16341212

This actually helped alot.

Turns out they disappeared in my game so I had to Frakenstein couple of saves for them to reappear, still in the process of figuring out how to talk to them so I can claim my goddamn bugmaster reward.

I would've just said fuck it and just import it but when I did the bug master fucking disappeared with everyone saying that he's fucking dead.

I just wanted my reward.

>>16341757

The disappointing part about kenshi factions is that you can't really replace any groups with something actually decent, at least not wholly. If you could assassinate the nobles and maybe get a proper government going that utilized their resources that'd be an interesting sub story.

>>16342509

Starting out? Sometimes people drag bandits into town for a quick buck or grind iron/copper outside, and sell it. If you want a quick start you basically want as many people as possible for labor since that means exponential gains from labor, or mugging random fuckers.

>>16342509

>whats the starting memeta?

Don't starve and grind stats.

Get cash from mining, poaching or robbing minor factions, after they get wrecked by attacking cities.

Recruit drifters/slaves to your squad, so you won't be hopelessly outnumbered.

>>16342652

If you want to make it easier, use mods or experience multipliers or something. The early game is kind of a grind but it's also its own, irreplaceable experience.

>>16333675

>moralizes over slavery

>doesn't even bother sparing the resources to stop the Blackshifters from enslaving people to farm their weed literally less than a mile from Spring

>He's too busy destroying another convoy of medical supplies to the colonies

>>16342258

Would also be cool if you could impress Tengu and have him name you a noble or something.

>>16342666

speaking of mods, any must have mods?

I noticed for example that the player cannot enslave people for some reason

>>16345980

Yes, in the long run you can look at it this way: The factions have set ideologies they operate under, they can be said to be also potentially politically motivated in some other fashion to strive for and achieve their goals.

The HN is trying to purge the world of darkness. No matter how many times you run the scenario, they are hard built to fight the Skeleton army (of any origin), a conflict with Cat-Lon is a downright crash course. Tinfist and his bunch of delusional dreamers aren't going to be able to play hide and seek forever. The Empire is weak and for all their bluster about Tinfist, they really don't/can't do anything about the dilemma. But you know who would love to kill Tinfist just for merely being?

World war is assured, politics are grey and alliances are impossible. The game ends one way: The player wins, the NPCs all lose. Somebody was alive right before that moment, the idea is, hopefully my mod can shape the world such that Cat-Lon and someone else are always the last parties to the table, go out with a real bang. Time will tell, the FCS is a lot of fun though.

>>16346036

Straight up, it's a process. You won't see "a war with Cat-Lon" for I'd say at least a couple months. Right now I'm giving the HN serious durability by giving them a constant chain of reconquest opportunities. When you see what I'm getting at via maps, it'll hopefully all make sense. It basically boils down to: The HN have the best real estate on the map, everyone is hard set to try and conquer it. If the HN survive the onslaught from the surrounding world…then what? You start removing NPCs from the world map and the question becomes: What would the HN do if they could no longer be challenged on certain borders? (Or the inverse, destruction is equally important). That's where this leads, what happens when the Phoenix is alive but Moll, Esata, Tengu, Longen and numerous others have kicked the bucket? Sounds like war to me. My next patch focuses on the internal reconquest, the one after is expanding the Cannibals (not slapping some gaudy armor on them, actual "gameplay") and the HN vs UC in the NE.

Flotsam fanboys and girls have had it too good for too long, I'm doing away with the 1.0 notion of "the rebels win". That's what the current override scheme offers players, I find it lacking and boring, options matter. Hopefully the FCS doesn't let me down, hasn't yet.

/blog over, carry on gents.

>>16346049

>I'm doing away with the 1.0 notion of "the rebels win".

And you're doing God's work by doing so. Fuck this notion of "hurr muh inoffensive collection of ragtag rebels will beat out LE TYRANTS". History belongs to the most ruthless and the most driven.