1cbdcb No.16260449
"No thread in over a week" edition
>What the fuck is this shit
H&H is an survival MMO written in Java, published by two Swedes and held together by prayers and autism. You start naked and alone in the wilderness and must discover how to use the resources around to survive, building shelter, securing food, and always reaching towards higher stats, quality of life, and avoiding Russian kill squads. Growing crops takes literally real days, so mild planning and autism is a must.
>Sounds fun how do I play it?
Download the official client here to see if you like it:
http://www.havenandhearth.com
After fucking around with it for a bit, you might prefer a custom client, such as Amber, which basically makes you realize the vanilla client is unplayable shit:
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40400
Resources
May not be updated for W11
>Wiki: http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Haven_and_Hearth_Wiki
>Cookbook: https://certainly-not-a-cat.github.io/cookbook/
>World Map: https://odditown.com/haven/map/
Supposedly the /v/ base is on the northern continent, but that's all I know.
1cbdcb No.16260455
Here's my current base, a solo village. Got up to q50 wheat and carrots now, q30 trees, starting to get animals
1cbdcb No.16261602
>Still need to get my silk industry going
>Try to build a road south of my base
>Guy walks past with merchant's robes, hussar wings, and a horse, carrying a dead deer, and a sword
>nervous.jpg
>Just some guy from a village exploring
>Gives me the deer, Q86 bones from it
>Best was q65 I had laying around for a special occasion
Jesus
1cbdcb No.16266982
Bump.
What does increasing the number of combat cards in my deck do? How does this differ from Attack Weight?
0811a7 No.16267187
>>16266982
look at the formula for each attack, the symbol at the end is representative of Number of cards, or atleast multiplied by .5, cant remember which
1cbdcb No.16273272
More QoL patchnotes
>Added "Seamarks". Seamarks are a Realm Authority object which can only be built on shallow ocean tiles. Once a Seamark has been constructed within your Realm, you are allowed, once every 48 hours, to place a new Seamark anywhere in the world, without having to first connect your Realm to that point, thus allowing you to spread the Realm across oceans. Fun times!
>You may now craft directly from stockpiles. Suggested here.
ab4667 No.16273295
>>16273272
I thought you could already craft from stockpiles, at least for construction?
1cbdcb No.16273575
>>16273295
For construction/building yes, but not for hand crafts.
1cbdcb No.16274835
What a dick. It's almost as bad as a village claiming a lotus and heart of woods
0811a7 No.16274964
>>16274835
someone clearly wants to siege/kingdom
2996f8 No.16275011
>>16274964
No, they just want matches really bad.
1cbdcb No.16275313
>Found q32 orthoclase under my base
>Trees up to 26-36q depending
>Wheat up to 55, some other stuff too
>Own three horses and a cow
>Respected by all my neighbours
>Almost back down to 300% food bonus, with 60%/8% FEP on my table
>Found a good combat setup using Cleave to bully boars and deer to death within only a few rounds of allowing them to damage me
>Game just got comfy
d82605 No.16275666
does this do survivan better than wyrm does? Or, is it at least more active?
1cbdcb No.16278651
>Check on demijohn, which has 50L of q40 beer brewing in it
>About 2h left, just checking on it
>Get an event pop-up worth 50xp
>Accidentally hit "empty" on the demijohn UI instead of "dismiss" on the popup
motherFUCKER
91bfa2 No.16278960
>>16278651
>filling cucksa in river
>get xp popup
>click dismiss while it's still held on my cursor
>drop it into the river
>do this at least 8 times before I find out the client has an option to prevent it
2ecf6c No.16279746
>>16275666
>survivan
Being a literal sperg has never been easier, but being a competent one is literally impossible and a nightmare.
>>16278960
>kucksas
>Not the superior wooden cup
Turn birchbark into boats.
1cbdcb No.16280587
>>16279746
I dont blame him for not knowing that wooden cups can be drunk from. They're under Symbel items and don't label that they can hold liquids on the tooltip
1cbdcb No.16282961
>Traded a +18 MC gilding rock to someone for 4x 80q Wolverine Hide and a q75 bone saw
Did I do good?
58f170 No.16283249
8f4757 No.16283323
>>16282961
you got punked +18 MC is a lot and very hard to get, the hides and saw not really especially because you got a bone saw and not a metal one
0b611f No.16283563
Hi never played and I like comfy MMOs but really dislike PvP, the thought of making something cool and having someone destroy it when i go to bed always draws me away from MMO games.
Is this game not for me then or what?
f2489c No.16283617
>>16282961
Depends bit on how the devs decide to change the sieging next patch, but generally you can build stuff that people don't bother to tear down, especially with Realms that incentivize allowing people to live in your area, and even protecting them.
1cbdcb No.16284597
>>16283617
Guessing this was meant for >>16283563
>>16283563
You can acquire a skill called Yeomanry, which lets you stake a claim and own land. In order to trespass, rummage, steal, attack, or destroy things, you need various PvP skills. The world's been up long enough that people are going to have PvP alts with the skills they need at any time, no problem.
However, a simple palisade on a claimed piece of land is enough to stop most potential griefers, unless you have a huge swath of land or a notable resource or are in a warring area
1cbdcb No.16285564
Alright, tell me about Credos. Right now I have Forager and almost maxed out Farmer. My plan was to originally get Mystic for the Scholarly Reports, which I figured would be very helpful endgame for LP/h increases without having to consume very many resources (good since I'm solo).
Right now, my plan was to get Gardener and/or Potter after Farmer, so I can grow Chiming Bluebells and Cavebulbs (my Psyche is almost caught up, however). Not sure what I should do.
1cbdcb No.16286026
>When you see faction bullshit and wonder why you even bother trying
1cbdcb No.16286478
>Spot 2 bears near my base
>Normalfag friend I found has been hunting bears carefully, but by using ranged cheese, tanking the quality
>whatsthepoint.jpg
>Get him to come with me to split the loot and hunt one
>Goes well, except he initially aggroed it with a shot and killed the quality
>Idiot takes 60 damage because lol70openings
>Doesn't die but has to go after the fight
Anyways, I'm confident enough to solo bears now, provided I'm in my bay with fucking fantastic cheese terrain
2996f8 No.16293243
>>16286026
>12 ore smelters
>No ore
>Barely any metal
1cbdcb No.16294529
Is there a way to easily change the facing of a gate in my base? My only solution seems to be building a wrecking ball or something and destroying it, but this may damage the entire palisade
2996f8 No.16294549
>>16294529
Wrecking ball is your only choice if it's already at max soak, it wont fuck your whole palisade but you'll have to rebuild part of it.
1cbdcb No.16294633
>>16294549
Okay great.
Follow up question: Provided that these gates are locked and claimed properly, does having it face this way pose a security risk?
2996f8 No.16294650
>>16294633
Your biggest risk for this would be if you die or somehow otherwise lose your key to another player, if it's a slave key they'd be able to open the right one with it, but if you just keep the key to that one in your base and only go out of the left one then there's no issue.
2996f8 No.16294656
>>16294650
Assuming this screenshot is from the outside PoV
1cbdcb No.16294666
>>16294656
>>16294650
Yeah but I get what you mean. Mostly I was annoyed at having to close the door behind me, then teleport back in when I leave my base for 2 minutes
1cbdcb No.16294757
Bear got to my horse. It's been asleep for about 5 minutes. It's still okay, right?
2996f8 No.16294827
>>16294757
It takes like half a day.
1cbdcb No.16296444
>Lobsters
We Runescape now
1cbdcb No.16298194
>Hearthling with q68 Bear Cloak: "I am growing stronger"
7389c2 No.16299147
I have been shitposting a bit about URW recently and I need to take a break before I burn out, how does this game compare, being another heavy survival game made by insane snow peoples?
I dont really dig the mobage graphics tho, the old stuff looked good enough to me.
ad20fc No.16299222
>>16299147
>sweaty
>vigorous
just what kind of game is this
7389c2 No.16299275
>>16299222
>sweaty
that means Im wearing bear fur clothes a couple of weeks before winter, its not that cold yet but I dont see any penalties and id rather not let a cold night catch me unaware if Im out in the wilderness
vigorous just means Im well rested, it goes from vigorous>lively>a bit tired>tired>weary>really tired>ready to drop
just your average Finnish Iron Age woodsman
ready to make you his wife and plow your fields
1cbdcb No.16301408
So I've reached a point where I am ready to (((set up an economy))), being the biggest player in the area (aside from a 4-screen faction base about 5 mins walk south of me).
I can set up a barter stand and soon mint my own coins. My goal is to sell a few decent quality curios, but also profit on swapping resources around (eg selling bones, buying wax/leather, that sort of thing). What are fair prices?
26f8a1 No.16302499
>>16301408
Hard to say since I don't know supply and demand in your local region. Put Barter Stands in walled area with visitor gate so it's safe for customers to hang out there.
2ecf6c No.16303190
>>16301408
>What are fair prices?
The ones that are determined by the customers, yourself and the competition.
>ICICLE 10PT
>>TREEPLANTER'S POT Q45 60 PT
good fucking shit
82386a No.16303211
>>16303190
Hey i have that quality TPP.
What currency is Pt? Points of some kind? Sub tokens?
2ecf6c No.16304393
>>16303211
>What currency is Pt? Points of some kind? Sub tokens?
Forum semitism
db9fa1 No.16304425
So, are people playing together or what? Seems like everyone's by their lonesome.
1cbdcb No.16304617
>>16304393
2meta4me, I'll just demand raw resources
56dee7 No.16304685
let's make a base guys, trahison is possible but i'm sure we'll manage to do something good together
db9fa1 No.16304728
>>16304685
If it's possible to play together and make a comfy home, I will download this right now.
3aab45 No.16305600
>>16304425
>>16304685
We've been playing in a group since day 1, and had a village not long afterwards. There are just a bunch of solo-only autists here.
db9fa1 No.16305762
>>16305600
How would one find and join this village?
2ecf6c No.16306478
>>16305762
It's in the Western Continent "ADmerica", Land of The Free.
db9fa1 No.16306484
>>16306478
Okay, but who do I contact?
1cbdcb No.16306507
>>16306478
That reminds me, someone said that last world, AD griefed the community fair (robbing people, siegeing the walls, etc). Do you know what they're up to this world? I'm also on that continent as a solo autist (Dana)
1cbdcb No.16306658
>This game isn't the same as MMOs (which I've also played) and it's too difficult!
f2489c No.16307727
I think you can see some taproots even with fresh spawn stats. getting exploration even to 4 should make them visible semi-reliably. You just need to walk around the forest terrain. Raising both Exploration and Survival is the immediate step to progress in the game. Exploration allows you to see more herbs and find easier ones more reliably. Survival will hardcap most forageables (clay is masonry.) and will increase crafting softcap on bushcraft/primitive tools and clothes.
db9fa1 No.16310220
>made clogs
>stole a dream
>got beaten up by ants
I have no idea what I'm suppose to be doing.
1cbdcb No.16310260
>>16310220
H&H is a survival game where you set your own goals. For some faggots they want to roleplay. For me, I like to chase after getting higher quality items so it's easier for me to get other items to higher quality.
You get XP for performing random actions. You study Curios to convert the XP into Learning Points. LP is then spent on skills (unlocks game actions and crafting trees), misc things, and abilities such as Exploration.
Forageables have a minimum value to appear (and do so randomly). You see them based on your Exploration * Perception stat, so try to raise them both evenly. You'll want about 20+ of each within a day or two.
Combat is difficult to explain, but attacks increase their openings which then scale your damage. Spamming Punch with 20+ Unarmed Combat (UC) is recommended for noobs, but even then you'll only defeat ants.
For your immediate goals, you should try to find a nice place to set up a permanent base. You will want to create a Personal Claim there, perhaps a house, and make a Study Desk as soon as possible, since it lets you study addition curios even while you're offline
1cbdcb No.16310447
Is it worth it to say fuck it to my 300% hunger bonus and just get a fuckton of energy and mine several stockpiles of ore, and then work on getting it down again?
f2489c No.16311101
>>16310447
If you can acquire some food with good energy/hunger ratio like Roast Grasshopper. Or try to get FEPs on the side. If you don't have any metal yet then acquiring it can certainly be worth fucking up hunger for a while. If you already have meatgrinder, make Kebab from any meat you can acquire unless CON is already your highest attribute. Kebab has rather poor energy/hunger but has good FEP for 1% hunger. Try to get best possible table you can, even some wooden symbel can make a difference if you eat a lot.
1cbdcb No.16311105
>>16311101
I think it's worth it anyways. I need to spend a day or two playing catchup with my many small base projects and hammering them away one at a time
f2489c No.16311129
>>16311105
If you Can't kill bears, Spitroast Boar and grub are easy STR foods.
1cbdcb No.16312827
Here are my current stats. How are you faggots doing so far?
1cbdcb No.16314350
So I made an alt for hard labor
This is tricky
1280ac No.16318666
is the village thing still going on or did that die off
2996f8 No.16318923
>>16318666
There's about 7 or 8 of us left in the village.
2ecf6c No.16319225
>>16314350
>A.D.(P)
F
How high is the shitposting in there?
f2489c No.16319340
Tip of the day: If there's a mountain with snow and Leafpatch biome areas near you, you can make Fruit Sorbet to raise INT. Works best before your max FEP is too high. Possibly combine with strawberries (bit hard to forage but can be grown in a pot) for variety. It does require sweetener (if you don't have honey you can use birch or maple sap but it might result in inferior version.)
http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Fruit_Sorbet
http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Sap_Tap
1cbdcb No.16319984
>>16319225
Not too bad, actually. There's the occasional normalfag overusing emotes but that's about it
f2489c No.16320079
>>16319984
Probably less of an trouble at American hours, but right now HedgeHugs Realm chat is filled with Russian.
f2489c No.16330116
>>16319340
Derp. Leafpatch biome is for Sloan Berries form Blackthorn bushes that give more INT+2 than other types of fruit.
9d6e2c No.16331517
>>16330116
Is it worth hunting them down? I have 70 int atm mostly from foxes and squirrels early, then tuber mash later
2ecf6c No.16333192
The Game dev is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat.
1cbdcb No.16339250
Holy shit I just saw their April Fool's joke. Brutal and mean.
f2489c No.16343414
>>16331517
At that level, single decent-quality Fruit Sorbet won't fill FEP bad even at 300% efficacy. It's only 1% hunger though so go for it if you feel like you need more INT. some other berries probably work as decent substitute so main question is probably if you have mountain with snow (and preferably a quality node for it) within reasonable distance.
>>16333192
If that Dock has just barely too little space for another Knarr I'm going to feel bit sad for "wasted" materials.
>>16339250
I believed it to be genuine until people called out April Fools in the replies. They even had server message about the "bug hunt."
1cbdcb No.16347009
Okay I understand why, but it's still a hilarious message out of context
96a65d No.16348550
I tried to play this game back in like 2012. I spent a day bumbling around and built a little cabin and a rowboat I think (I might have found the rowboat or some shit, I don't remember). The next day I logged in and saw some russian carrying my boat away and his friend came up and shanked me.
I'm still salty.
f2489c No.16351605
>>16348550
I'm still salty about how I let a fellow countryman inside my base, trusting that Claim Permissions would protect me (I did take risk that he had crime skills but it was quite early in the world.) I accepted his party invite which back then gave him full permissions without having to use toggle on adventure menu. There was zero warning about that nowhere, I actually added it to wiki after I complained about it on forums. Anyway he wasn't satisfied stealing my pearls and steel sword, he also had to bash half of my cupboards for good measure. If he had just taken inventory full of most valuable stuff and explained how he did that, I'd look back at this at almost completely positive learning experience. Well could be worse I guess, he could've just not say anything and leave me assuming he used crime skills and I couldn't see scents.