cb73d0 No.16249655
https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1808664240333155775
https://archive.fo/eNQ9y
>Vavle removes review-bombs
>automatic tool will be used to identify them and a "team" will look deeper into it to decide if it's to be revmoved or not
>EULA/DRM negative reviews are off-topic and to be removed
Oh well, pirating was always the right way.
2204ed No.16249681
>Developers no longer have to worry about going full jew on a game if they kept the scores at a certain level for a certain amount of time
You truly are my greatest ally, Steam
Also there's an option to turn off this feature and see the so called review bombs, but it's an outrage thread who cares
3ec5da No.16249691
complete retard here. how do I crack all my steam games? is steam smart emu safe?
322a0c No.16249726
>>16249681
>Also there's an option to turn off this feature and see the so called review bombs, but it's an outrage thread who cares
That true?
6d2b2b No.16249731
Oh nice now the jews can get away with adding 5 years post launch microtransactions
Censorship is so fucking gay
6d2b2b No.16249733
>>16249691
Buy a console pc gaming is fucking shit in 2019 anyways
I only play skyrim and new vegas on pc anyways
2204ed No.16249735
>>16249726
>Finally, we've also enabled you to opt out of this entirely, if that's your preference - there's now a checkbox in your Steam Store options where you can choose to have off-topic review bombs still included in all the review scores you see.
7bc451 No.16249736
3ec5da No.16249740
>>16249733
already boght a sega saturn recently. gonna buy a dreamcast too
7bc451 No.16249745
>>16249681
>>16249735
>its opt-out
kek, basically their way of trying to wash their hands of this just like how they killed Steamspy
kill yourself apologist
2fef34 No.16249746
>>16249735
Irrelevant. This is on by default.
60df52 No.16249760
Gotta get rid of those review bombs so your paid shills can spam positive reviews instead.
1fffa0 No.16249763
>>16249655
I wonder how much Denuvo had to pay to get this to pass?
2204ed No.16249769
>>16249760
The article says the bot detects any anomalous activity, so I'm guessing it would detect positive anomalies as well if they were actually willing to do something about it, which they won't
0034b5 No.16249773
>based on your preferences
So it's an optional thing? Also, this seems more in reaction to those chinks review bombing that one game that featured their commie leader as winnie the pooh, not actual reviews.
713b77 No.16249779
>>16249655
If I wasn't trying to coding my game, I would be working on my reviewing website, with the recente rotten tomatos debacle and this, it would really be the prime time for testing and getting users.
2fef34 No.16249781
2d4877 No.16249793
>>16249655
Q: I care about some things that I worry other players don't, like DRM or EULA changes. Review bombs have been about them in the past. Do you consider them unrelated or off-topic?
A: We had long debates about these two, and others like them. They're technically not a part of the game, but they are an issue for some players. In the end, we've decided to define them as off-topic review bombs. Our reasoning is that the "general" Steam player doesn't care as much about them, so the Review Score is more accurate if it doesn't contain them. In addition, we believe that players who do care about topics like DRM are often willing to dig a little deeper into games before purchasing - which is why we still keep all the reviews within the review bombs. It only takes a minute to dig into those reviews to see if the issue is something you care about.
53195e No.16249797
Oh what's this? Valve saying what I've always said? The majority of pc gamers dont give a fuck about drm.
0034b5 No.16249801
>>16249781
I dropped steam the moment they started forcing the new chat UI on me, which was the only real thing I used it for. If you didn't see this kind of jewry coming and are actually surprised and outraged you're a fool at best and a retard at worst.
6d2b2b No.16249808
>>16249740
Nice
Im gonna get a bunch of gamecube games
And maybe a modded wii
I went on a mega game buying spree when i got a job after 3 years of school and being broke
I dont think i can even finish what i bought in the next 2 years
6d2b2b No.16249810
0034b5 No.16249814
81ce32 No.16249815
>>16249655
Man, Valve is really making all the wrong decisions lately.
>>16249801
sauce
be6b4f No.16249826
Steam is for faggots anyway
37a2b8 No.16249830
In a perfect world this would be perfectly suited towards weeding out "MY 200 YEAR OLD TOASTER CAN'T RUN IT AND THE GAME WON'T LET ME PLAY IT, WOW DUDE 0/10" reviews.
In our world it would probably be used to make way for funny epic meme reviews and totally not paid shills.
632e58 No.16249840
>>16249655
>most steam users don't care about DRM or EULA changes so we'll make sure it stays that way and keep them stupid while also having "legitimate" reviews be caught in the cross-fire during a review bomb
There's nothing positive about this. All to protect some thin-skinned devs from hurt feelings and allowing them to pull shitty tricks without having to fear a backlash as much.
I usually don't care about the "muh steam" screeching, but this, combined with other places trying to censor reviews and legitimate criticisms is just another nail in the coffin of a lot of mainstream media.
006dfe No.16249842
>See if game was long term by checking overall review aggregator
>See if game is currently shit by seeing recent review aggregator
There was literally nothing wrong with this system, Valve has become Jewgle 1:1
edb18a No.16249843
>>16249815
>lately
every single venture valve has made since 2013 has been a hopeless failure
and they just don't care if they fail because they are still raking in hundreds of billions of dollars from steam
632e58 No.16249857
>>16249681
>but it's an outrage thread who cares
Adding some opt-out option like it's supposed to satisfy both sides completely misses the point of why people would want to review-bomb something in the first place. Most people aren't going to bother opting out of it and they know this.
Instead of letting people think for themselves they're taking the benevolent dictator approach.
When will people fucking let everyone think for themselves? I don't want your faggoty sensibilities projected onto me, nor do I want to bother opting out of gay shit like this to see unfiltered discourse. Take a fucking hike, Gabe.
bd28e1 No.16249860
>>16249655
>Artifact launched and was widely hated.
>Artifact's official discussion board get's flooded with threads.
>Valve lets things fizzle before doing anything cause they are lazy fat fucks.
>User reviews and threads start vanishing.
>Goes unnoticed cause noone is playing the game.
>Jump to today and there is a rise in negative reviews.
>Threads are now being locked instead of outright deleted.
>More users are being banned from the discussion board for criticizing the game or even being too negative.
>Game only has 477 players left.
Gee, I wonder why.
000000 No.16249869
>>16249655
Pirating was always the right decision. Buying is for retards.
If anyone still has a (((Steam))) account, use it to exclusively bomb review any game made by leftists or that utilizes any DRM or other types of anti-consumer practices. Never let them silence the truth.
8201d2 No.16249878
I just disabled the filter in settings. I'm not liking how slippery this slope is though.
0b9bca No.16249894
>>16249681
>Narrative crafting
>Damage control
filtered.
0034b5 No.16249901
>>16249815
Most I've ever been able to find was a (((fakku))) locked doujin I couldn't find anywhere else.
7e0200 No.16249902
So the only difference between them and the epic game store is that have more games and don't datamine their competitors, yet?
37a2b8 No.16249916
>>16249902
Does the Epic game store even have user reviews?
81ce32 No.16249921
>>16249901
That's okay I found it.
412c3b No.16249924
>>16249655
Irrelevant, you shouldn't be using Steam to begin with. Anyone who uses Steam, GOG, uplay, origin, battle.net, epic, etc, and/or pays for digital distribution is not a real PC gamer and is the cancer that killed gaming. Anyone who actually cared would not financially reward the biggest cancer on gaming.
1db58a No.16249925
EULA/DRM is off topic when it comes to reviews
632e58 No.16249928
>>16249902
You're also not funding the chinks but at this rate you're better off pirating everything unless a non-steam alternative is available and you want to support the devs.
60df52 No.16249930
>>16249921
>found it
Can you share it for the rest of us?
b5dd65 No.16249938
>>16249655
>developers lie
>reviewers are paid to lie
>steam hides truth thus promoting lies
Whats the point in playing modern video games? Either make the game you want or get a new hobby.
81ce32 No.16249943
cb73d0 No.16249946
>>16249916
Not yet, but sweaney said that they want to implement them in the future as opt-in for the devs.
I know that what Valve is doing isn't the same, but I can see Epic shills using it as justification in the future why Epics idea is a good one.
ff4e0b No.16249962
>>16249925
>Game is bundled wity potential spyware that impacts performance
<Not a legitimate criticism goyim valued customer
60df52 No.16249963
412c3b No.16249971
>>16249842
Valve always sucked though and should have been boycotted into bankruptcy the moment they launched Steam.
>>16249962
Steam itself is spyware
0bdef4 No.16250057
>>16249655
I think this needs to be given a chance. No one can deny the recent review bombing of Metro Exodus that was pulled from Steam and put on the Epic store at the last minute. Sure, you can be pissed about that and complain about it on Reddit or some other discussion forum, but the review process is not meant to address your grievances with elements that re not relevant to the gameplay experience itself. Likewise, positive review bombs should be treated the same way.
The only thing that bothers me about this move by Steam is that you know they will not show you the reviews that were removed. This will prevent us from holding them under scrutiny when the SJWs manage call every negative review of their snowflake games a "review bomb".
Pic unrelated.
1db58a No.16250059
>>16249962
Forgot my green text
81ce32 No.16250075
>>16250057
>I think this needs to be given a chance.
Are you actually defending censorship?
6ac2ec No.16250080
>>16249860
>Artifact isn't the problem, the community is.
0bdef4 No.16250090
>>16250075
No, and it's not censorship. It's a code of conduct that's not much different than elsewhere on Steam where your curse words are blanked out with hearts and you can't say NIGGER NIGGER KIKE JEW without being moderated. It's a quality assurance protocol. Who wants to use a system that being abused by sperglords?
I will call it censorship once I am convinced that Steam is removing VALID negative reviews at the behest of SJWs. Until then, I only think we should at least give it a chance.
81ce32 No.16250097
>>16250090
>I will call it censorship once I am convinced that Steam is removing VALID negative reviews
They are already defining DRM as "off-topic reviews", even though that's a completely valid complaint.
08ac3b No.16250114
> steam to begin auto censoring reviews
Fucking hell, gabe.
0bdef4 No.16250115
>>16250097
If the DRM causes performances issues as with Denuvo or it if implements always-online DRM, I can see that as being valid a valid complaint. I would need to see examples of other types of DRM complaints.
08ac3b No.16250116
>>16250090
> censoring bad reviews isn't censorship
lol kys
0bdef4 No.16250122
>>16250116
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
16858d No.16250172
>>16250115
This new policy is clearly a response to Artifact's negative reception, no doubt in my mind that DRM complaints of any kind are going to be censored.
e1f56d No.16250200
>>16250090
>>16250122
>You seem to have a reading comprehension problem
<it's not censhorship it's a quality assurance
And you seem to have Gabe's gunt flap pressed firmly against the back of your head and his his dick lodged firmly in your throat.
So don't call what's coming your way a buttfuck,it's the future you chose
08ac3b No.16250249
>>16250122
> clearly sating the main idea is a problem with reading comprehension
You sound like someone who failed the English portion of your SATs.
7e8d36 No.16250269
>>16249655
This isn't actually a bad thing. Remember the Chink government who review bombed a game because it talked bad about their leader? Having honest reviews instead of paid or shill reviews is a good thing.
b416a1 No.16250284
>>16250269
Yeah steam are going to censor the chink government keep thinking that.
0e39b5 No.16250384
>>16250057
>not relevant to the gameplay experience
Only being able to access a game you pre-ordered a year later doesn't impact the experience?
Yeah, people who preorder are retarded, but that doesn't mean that they aren't rightfully pissed.
>>16250269
The solution to Chinks (aside from the final one) is to just give them their own Steam, perfectly curated to fit with their politics, where they can screech at each other instead of bothering people.
c3e32b No.16250400
>>16249655
Another fantastically retarded feature by the fantastic people at Valva. I'm glad they don't make games anymore.
c3e32b No.16250425
>>16249840
I love how they pull that "not video games" shit in that answer, full on jewish mental gymnastics.
7e8d36 No.16250431
>>16250384
Sadly this wont work. Devs aren't even willing to region lock chinks to their own servers
d4acd8 No.16250433
>>16249655
>Q: I care about some things that other players don't, like DRM or EULA changes.
>Do you consider them unrelated or off-topic?
>We've decided to define them as off-topic review bombs
>Our reasoning is that the "general" Steam player doesn't care as much about them
0034b5 No.16250545
444dc4 No.16250578
>>16249793
>DRM, part of the game's code, is not a part of the game
That's like saying a processor is not a part of a computer.
444dc4 No.16250581
>>16249797
>people don't care so much that valve is taking steps to protect devs and publishers from backlash
df6c13 No.16250595
>>16249655
>Chinese countermeasure
<MUH DRM REEEEE
Fuck you, bugman.
c3e32b No.16250623
>>16250433
Shit seems damn near fraudulent to me.
>h-haha you can just turn it off
As if everyone's going to see their gay blog on the matter.
632e58 No.16250670
>>16250595
If it was truly just that then they could have left the DRM/EULA part out of it and included it as on-topic.
Fuck off, retard.
bbfdbb No.16251011
can someone explain what the fuck is a "review bomb"? is it another bullshit term like ""fake news"" (i.e. news that doesn't fit the (((mainstream media)))'s agenda) and ""vote brigading"" (i.e. people expressing their opinions after being linked from another site)?
>>16249681
>b-but you can turn it off
most people are not even aware the filter exists, nor do valve have any incentive to go around announcing it as they can use it to hide non-kosher reviews. it should be off by default you corporate tool.
>>16249801
don't forget their switch to bloated electron (basically a web browser) that you can't turn off. 1 GB RAM wasted just running the UI :^).
81ce32 No.16251019
>>16251011
>can someone explain what the fuck is a "review bomb"?
Basically when a dev does something dumb/shitty/anti-consumer and the consumers show their displeasure in the only way they can by leaving a negative review.
i.e. the review system functioning as normal.
bbfdbb No.16251102
>>16251019
just as I thought. thanks anon. have a rare pay pay.
15444b No.16251115
Simple solution. Review everything bad as mediocre and have nothing positive to say about it in the actual review.
bbfdbb No.16251173
>>16251115
then you just end up with a similar problem to the well-known "4 point scale": good is the new average, average is the new bad, and bad is ignored.
how long until we're only given the twisted choice to either leave a positive review or not write anything at all? what will a negative review consist of then, damning with faint praise?
81ce32 No.16251185
>>16251173
>how long until we're only given the twisted choice to either leave a positive review or not write anything at all?
They've already gotten rid of downboats on most of the internet.
9c2f03 No.16251651
I just use GoG at this point. No reason to support Valve at all.
c7e8a5 No.16252160
>>16251651
>I just use GoG at this point
032309 No.16252169
>>16250200
Get this man a capture mod.
>>16251636
3d2680 No.16252171
>>16249655
good, hope they remove a lot of crappy negatives from the left alive and metal gear survive store page
81ce32 No.16252204
>>16251651
>I just use GoG at this point
083195 No.16252244
>>16252204
that's just basic PR, did you miss the THQ nordic shit?
57f396 No.16252382
>>16252244
No its not, these guys did this which made shit like that "basic pr shit"
771649 No.16252397
>>16250623
>>16250433
Have you guys considering that the opposite (POSITIVELY review bombing other better or funnier videogames so that they take the top spots of the pages rather than the bad games) is an option?
b72ea3 No.16252399
>>16249860
>Artifact offers the deepest gameplay and the highest-fidelity experience ever seen in a trading card game
It reads like a skit on some shitty comedy show
000000 No.16252410
>>16252244
No, GOG has been reorganized under more corporate PC types. Their catalog is also shifting from oldschool games to IGF indie trash. SJWs have quietly taken the helm in GOG.
0ece63 No.16252458
Does that mean that the chinks won't be able to bomb a game into oblivion anymore just because it contained a joke about Winnieh?
a2dd82 No.16252560
Honestly never took the inane ramblings of the gaming community very seriously and the usual outrage of the week never bothered me.
bc0d9f No.16253380
Yeah, at least we have dissenter.
Interestingly, you can use dissenter to upvote a post in 8chan by clicking on it's post number before upvoting :^)
bc0d9f No.16253388
>>16253380
no wait, it sorta works but not really, the extension just shits itself instead of actually having a up/down vote and comment section for each comment
a24813 No.16253776
>>16252560
The trails series and tokyo xanadu are awesome. Good taste.
305234 No.16253818
>>16252560
what game is this
81ce32 No.16253889
>>16253818
boku no pico: the movie: the game
305234 No.16253941
>>16253889
Go back to reddit
f0f458 No.16253951
>>16252560
So, is PC version any better than console?
f0f458 No.16253973
>>16253818
You could, you know, read the post above yours. A hint: it's not the trails game for obvious reasons.
f313d5 No.16255019
>>16249681
>Also there's an option to turn off this feature and see the so called review bombs, but it's an outrage thread who cares
Of all the years this has been happening, how are folks like you still not aware that they do this because they know most normalfags won't even know to turn the feature off and be uninformed from the onset? Only a select few autists will bother to turn it off.
>>16252244
Except they fired the GoG guy. That goes beyond mere PR statements.
ca1bcf No.16255099
>>16255019
Everything you love and care for will be gone in your lifetime unless you take a stand and fight for it. Don't just stop using steam or complain about it here, take it everywhere and make yourself heard.
e70b95 No.16255485
>NOT pirating a game first to see if u like it then buy it
>b-but its mp only
So?
5aea99 No.16255713
>>16250433
goy everyone knows that if your opinion isnt popular opinion (or if they can just say that it isnt) then your opinion doesn't matter!
>>16250595
>enable maximum kikery without people being able to even review games accordingly, but thats okay because it also totally gets rid of chinks!
>anyone who disagrees must be a chink
People like you are contributing to shit board quality, emulating people who have valid reasoning to say something like that, but without actually knowing what you're talking about.
c7e8a5 No.16255736
>>16255099
>take it everywhere and make yourself heard
is that how your mother makes ends meet?
33b765 No.16260840
>>16249840
>most country users don't care about laws or rights changes so we'll make sure it stays that way and keep them stupid
30d5fc No.16261068
>>16252169
How long until the pendulum swings us back to a 90s-like era? God damn I miss how chill everyone was back then, and I miss everyone wearing neon colors everywhere that shit was fun.
8c5828 No.16263572
>>16261068
You'd have to root out every single thread of cancer all at once. From here on out it'll just be a mockery of that relaxed laid back atmosphere.
fe3338 No.16264115
So are you faggots going to use GoG and/or pirate your games now?
>>16255019
Which one did they fire? The one that apologized to REEEEEseterra?
fe3338 No.16264692
>>16264223
Yeah, wasn't the PR guy that handled that fired? or was it someone else that was canned? Also, that image was posted in this thread before.
0ac56f No.16264721
>>16264692
I remember reading that one of the Cyberpunk devs helped ResetEra doxing their own PR guy and he still ended up getting fired after all he went through.
378dc0 No.16265183
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>>16261068
>>16263572
Today I will remind them
f313d5 No.16266308
>>16264115
>Which one did they fire?
The guy who manned the Twitter account. I think his name was Sean or something? After the drama he protected his personal twitter and people noticed that he no longer has any info saying he worked for GOG anymore.
a84753 No.16267531
>>16252399
>Only get new cards by paying money or beating people ho paid hundreds into their decks in tournaments
That is unironically high-fidelity. Do you not play actual trading card games?
16848a No.16267646
>Almost the entire economy is rapidly becoming anti-consumer for literally no fucking reason other than to protect companies that will directly fail as a result of this behavior
Fucking madness. I haven't pirated anything since I was like, 13, but I'm about to get my fucking eyepatch out of storage. So sick of dealing with this shit. If I could pirate my groceries I'd do that too.
e9d1db No.16267665
>>16249655
This is just retarded. Review bombs are hugely important information that I regularly use when deciding to buy a game or not.
Many developers go full retard in their games and a review bomb will absolutely help alert people to this fact.
Payday2 is a great example of this. After they changed everything, people review bombed it, rather than allow it to keep its mostly positive rating is had earned before it went to shit.
After they fixed it and made everything right, the game came right back up to mostly positive again.
When I see a "mixed recent reviews" score, I know the developer has probably done fucked up, or that some chinks got pissed about something retarded.
Valve are being retards here for sure, they should've cave on this, but then I imagine that Epic and their faggotry is the catalyst for this.
Their promises to not allow reviews and shit like that is forcing valve to be less consumer friendly and cater to the whiney devs.
>inb4 DURR competition is good goy!
Not when the competition is a chink owned pile of shit company like Epic.
b93c8a No.16267681
>>16249943
>All those tags
Nope.
d4b738 No.16267703
>>16253776
>Trash not-Xanadu
>Awesome
One of the worst Falcom games in decades alongside Sen IV
78f9c9 No.16267704
>>16267681
yeah, I can't stand tankoubon either
89f969 No.16267828
>>16249655
>we're going to identify off-topic review bombs, and remove them from the Review Score.
May be a good or an absolutely vile thing.
>off-topic review bombs appear to only be a small number of them.
X to doubt.
>Finally, we've also enabled you to opt out of this entirely, if that's your preference - there's now a checkbox in your Steam Store options where you can choose to have off-topic review bombs still included in all the Review Scores you see.
Good.
>but they are an issue for some players. In the end, we've decided to define them as off-topic
Bad.
Very bad if it affects steam forums as well.
Thus if one doesn't attribute their actions to malice, but plain stupidity instead - the change is overall neutral.
48632d No.16267841
>>16252244
I didn't go to 8ch on that day so I missed it. Reading the recap threads produced zero information about what happened.
7e4e06 No.16267968
>>16267841
The actual AMA thread has been archived so you can read it for yourself.
Its just like an AMA on leddit really. But with more insightful questions and fewer edgy teens oddly enough.
I think you will find the link in the goymergate thread.
e58b49 No.16268792
>>16267681
The only bad tag there is yaoi.
f9fd6c No.16268841
>>16249733
>PC is getting slightly worse then it was for freedom so just get a console that straight up sacrifices all freedom
You're a fucking retard shill ain't you anon?
22a18b No.16268880
>>16249655
Who cares? You shouldn't trust reviews anyway. And yes, some reviewbombs are pretty retarded (like when they target other games of the same company that have nothing to do with it).
Steam is still comfy, and I like to support the developers, stay mad cucks.
e58b49 No.16268904
>>16268880
>some reviewbombs are pretty retarded (like when they target other games of the same company that have nothing to do with it).
Oy vey, don't shoah us!
2d4877 No.16277025
>>16268880
>Who cares? You shouldn't trust reviews anyway. And yes, some reviewbombs are pretty retarded (like when they target other games of the same company that have nothing to do with it).
If you can't trust reviews then how do you find out about games?
4dbc15 No.16277096
>>16261068
It will happen after every Jew is killed off.
I'd say by 2050.
f646be No.16277135
>>16268880
Crash your skull open against a brick wall, Discord tranny rat.
Don't hold back.
5243a6 No.16277160
>>16277025
my favourite youtubers xDD
ba3e5b No.16290918
>>16249793
Steam itself is literally drm and comes with an abusive eula. Why would they care?
195029 No.16290933
>>16249763
Sad, but Denuvo is barely relevant. Normalfags don't care about microtransactions and you think they will care about Denuvo?
ebffdc No.16294832
>>16290933
Normalfags usually support drm as antipiracy anyway.
875192 No.16298090
>>16249655
Oh how relevant this is to me.
My brother in law recommended FFX to me after we talked about JRPGs for a while and what do I find when I check its steam page?
DRM and EULA do affect my enjoyment of a video game. I do want to be alerted when developers shove their collective cock up the consumers' collective arse. I'm flipping the switch as soon as the change is in place.
I'm almost tempted to write some kind of formal complaint. I'm not usually that type.
be02fc No.16298122
>>16294832
You mean shills.