952030 No.16231517
MGSV has a lot of problems….But there is one that is never discussed but is very irratating.
That was a problem that was in no other Metal Gear games, and not even in MGSV: Ground Zeroes…No, just in The Phantom Pain.
What is it ? The MUSIC…No, not the music itself, I think it's great, but the Volume of the music is SO FUCKING LOW and QUIET, that be during cinematic or during gameplay. It's just too fucking low. Even the most "Epic" sounds like OKB0 feels so underwhelming when watching the cutscene, because the SFX sounds and voices are too loud compared to the music.
That's a fucking shame, there wasn't this problem in any MGS or even in MGS:Ground Zeroes, it was well balanced volume wise.
How could they fail they volume mixing so badly ?
And there are no way to change the music volume settings, Hidiot Kojima never had allowed volume sliders in his games, only Metal Gear Rising did it but it was Platinum Games and it didn't need it, the base mixing is alreay great.
But with The Phantom Pain, it's so fucking bad, the music is so quiet and low, and the fact that the nature of the music is more "atmospheric" compared to Ground Zeroes doesn't help either.
And there are no PC mods to increase the volume of the musics too.
952030 No.16231523
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Example, hear this MGSV:The Phantom Pain music.
952030 No.16231541
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16231523
And now in gameplay
The video here from 17:35.
The OST is supposed to be nervous, and yet, it's so fucking quiet and low compared to all the other sounds…Why ?`Even Ground Zeroes had punchy Music, that be combat music, cinematic music, infiltration music, all with a great level of volume and well balanced with all the other sounds. But MGSV:TTP, the music is very low during the whole game.
aeefcf No.16231551
the game is empty open world shovelware, no amount of music could make it better as it is an inherently flawed "game"
952030 No.16231707
>>16231551
That's not the point of the thread.
86723e No.16231718
>>16231523
>cancerous synth noises and le epic 80's hits are too quiet.
Fuck off back to >>>/4um/ with your dogshit game.
>>16231707
Pray tell, what is the point of the thread?
Talking about a dogshit game that was made shit on purpose, but director failed with his message again because his fanbases can eat shit by shovel-loads and ask for seconds?
ddaed9 No.16231738
>>16231718
He makes it pretty clear that he's complaining about the music design choice of making the tracks so quiet you can barely hear it unless you're quiet. Excluding the stuff you can play on the tape player. he's right about that, if you bothered to try and listen here >>16231541
aeefcf No.16231742
>>16231707
>if the game had music it would be good
>but the game itself is not good
>WTF THAT ISNT THE THREAD!!!
Turn up the volume faggot
86723e No.16231743
>>16231738
>Listening to TPP musing
>wanting that trash to be louder
Why?
e13adc No.16231746
>>16231723
Nice thumbnail faggot.
86723e No.16231754
>>16231742
<but if you turn up the volume clanking noises of your shitty bootleg guns will muffle it, and so will kaz or troy baker's nannying.
>this cursed thread doesn't even have dubs in it.
86723e No.16231776
>>16231766
Impressive work.
cd51fb No.16231789
>>16231776
Good job retard you cursed it again by being off by one from getting trips.
9fb7ba No.16231941
>>16231789
At least hes Revolutionary with 1776.
2712d5 No.16234012
>>16231517
It's a shame that there's no proper settings to adjust that. It should be there, that's just basic design. Audio in general seems to be severely neglected the last 10 or 15 years. Personally I've always thought it was a major part of the experience, it all becomes pretty underwhelming when a 30-06 sounds less intimidating than a red ryder.
882ff6 No.16234072
>>16231541
I don't know, I can definitely hear it. And I could also hear it while playing the game, are you ear autistic? Am I ear autistic?
b464f0 No.16234607
>>16234072
Sounds fine to me, I think OP is just conditioned by overly loud, overbearing hollywood-esque scores.
74dcbd No.16234626
>>16231718
>game that was made shit on purpose
aeefcf No.16234715
>>16234626
DONT YOU GET IT? THE PHANTOM PAIN? THE THING IS KOJIMA WANTED US (the fans) TO EXPERIENCE OUR OWN PHANTOM PAIN BY HAVING AN UNFINISHED GAME!! BRAVO KOJIMA!
c4595b No.16234743
I'd say the biggest problem was that it pretended to be a mainline MGS game. I wouldn't care if it was cannon or whatnot, but having it sold as a MGS game just makes it look like shit in comparison to the others, if it was marketed as "fun MGS openworld adventures" it wouldn't receive half the shit it does.
Still, the music problem is pretty noticeable now that you mention it. I wasn't even aware there were songs in the missions other than the cutscene and radio ones. >>16231523 sounds fun as shit and even in the gameplay video I couldn't hear it.
After that just add in missing content like helis and it'd be a decent game without having to change too much. To make it a good game the maps would need to be redesigned from scratch, same for the AI.
>>16231766
Nice.
882ff6 No.16234764
>>16231718
>dogshit game that was made shit on purpose
>director failed with his message again
>message
>made shit on purpose
6D CHESS!
da2739 No.16234986
>>16231707
This isn't leddit or a 4um, threads can go in any direction.
9e4e5f No.16235295
So nobody will mod this ?
9e4e5f No.16235322
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16234743
>Still, the music problem is pretty noticeable now that you mention it. I wasn't even aware there were songs in the missions other than the cutscene and radio ones. >>16231523 sounds fun as shit and even in the gameplay video I couldn't hear it.
Yet, compare it to Ground Zeroes (or any other MGS game really).
You can hear the ambiance infiltration song clearly, the cautious song clearly and the combat alert clearly…But when playing in TPP, they reduce all the music to a very low point, it's stupid.
9efdae No.16235739
>mgsv worst problem is the music
No, it's the fact that it's unfinished. Everyone knows this.
210a53 No.16236223
>>16231517
There was music in game? WTF? I thought it was just whatever tapes you find or custom music you play.
fbed00 No.16236270
>>16235739
>No, it's the fact that it's unfinished. Everyone knows this.
And there's literally nothing even hinting at the possibility of it going to be finished.
aeefcf No.16236567
>>16235295
just turn up the volume
971c93 No.16237235
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16231517
There is literally ONE original song I remember from this game.
I forgot this game even had it's own original ost.
971c93 No.16237241
>>16236567
Also I don't even think that was possible on PC, there was only one volume slider and i'm pretty sure it just adjusted the volume via mixer.
a32cbc No.16237350
>weebs attack MGS like a western game
>not being anime, they don't recognize it as their own
It's like a self immune disease. Weebfaggotry.
d8e970 No.16238908
>>16237235
When does it play?
I only remember the braap braa bra braaap from ground zeroes and dudum dum dudum when Miller gives his angsty speech about holding rifles in missing hands.
aeefcf No.16239368
Are there any mods for different levels/areas?
bf8a02 No.16239567
I just found out that western version of MGR is non canon because in MG universe cyborgs has white blood but in western version of MGR everyone including cyborgs has red blood.
In jap version humans (Sam for example) has red blood, but cyborgs and robots has white blood.
Is there any way to play jap version with english subs and VA?
aeefcf No.16239583
>>16239567
couldnt you just swap out the japanese files with the english ones?
03a611 No.16240078
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I assume that we have to blame this dude at 8:05 for the bad volume mixing in The Phantom Pain concerning the OST volume music…But he did a good job in Ground Zeroes, so why did he do this like that in The Phantom Pain? Was it an order for Hidiot Kojima to lower the volume of the music a lot so that "we can hear our surrounding better, because muh open world" ?
befd70 No.16240094
>>16231517
The music isn't the worst thing about the game, faggot.
bf8a02 No.16243068
86562f No.16243127
its not a good MGS game but on every other front its at the top over most of the titles recently
as open world title its massive improvement over say what Ubisoft kept shelling out for years (they have gone better now)
the proper story (once you get to it) is enjoyable but not as memorable as earlier entries
c744e6 No.16243219
Metal gear stopped being good after 3
arguably, it stopped being good after the NES game or the first game, with the others being more of a story walking sim Wait for pat to move stealth games.
d250d6 No.16243543
>>16231517
The first thing I do before even starting any vidya is mute the music so I don't even understand what you're complaining about. Music is just background noise that gets in the way of hearing anything important.
010354 No.16243562
The worst problem is there is not enough bases* to infiltrate.
*not talking about mother base
bf8a02 No.16243791
DP still has the best open world.
f77730 No.16243871
>>16243219
if youre gonna make that argument, then at least acknowledge the japanese MSX release cause metal gear on NES was what you just described but with shit gameplay
d2019e No.16244833
They expect you to play music you collect while exploring. But I always noticed the sneaking, searching and combat music, OP. Didn't have your issue.
ae4372 No.16244868
>>16243543
You have autism.
f7ce0b No.16248863
I never had this issue and loved the ost.
Your own fault.
0058df No.16248930
>>16243562
Even worse problem is the gaem being incomplete, global alarm(?) not existing so bases never reciving reinforcements, but ingame radio keep chattering about it.
d8e970 No.16249412
>>16248930
Have you ever ignored the worthless FOB tutorial until airport level?
Kaz says that he sent a strike team without consulting with you(doesn't happen) they failed and died (nobody dies) so the invader killed the hostages (again doesn't happen) so Kaz will remove the mission from the list (it stays there)
Also, nobody will ever chase you because they're on a 300 meter leash, except a few "unique" soldiers like the nameless officers who meet in the village.
6f17f6 No.16261301
When the Phantom Pain Launched /v/ fawned over it, and even defended its cut ending (thanks Konami) because of the obvious sabotage so a certain group of big noses could go on to make Pachinko Sims. It may have been that its release perfectly timed with a newly formed 8chan but even still, I think it's hipster hate is relatively unwarranted. It may be unfinished but even in that state it struck chords which I haven't seen approached in any other medium. A nation unto itself, a group of people either forced or self inducted into a way of life that they ultimately truely desire, an ominous other constantly trying to dream themselves a master. To me the Phantom Pain may not have been the pinacle of the Metal Gear Series, but like all other entries it was predicting incidents and frames of times yet to come. Esoteric maybe, but it certainly wasn't a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. Had the ending mission been implemented I'd venture people would now call it a perfect game, but obviously that didn't happen. The core gameplay is what kept people coming back and in that sense it was above calibre by comparison to other MG's so I don't understand the hatred that the hip new youngfags have for TPP.
060938 No.16261319
>>16261301
TPP was released almost an entire year after the first exodus, dumbass.
cdcbdc No.16261333
>>16231517
trying to debate a topic that is soley opinion based is a waste of time. This is just a echo chamber thread to bitch and moan. *YAWN*
6f17f6 No.16261354
>>16261319
And yet it was incorporated into our culture before it even released in memetic form and then lingered for years on after that the same way. I'm sorry that facts hurt.
63704d No.16261370
>>16231718
>that was made shit on purpose
Who comes up with these fucking theories?
1338a3 No.16261405
>>16261319
>released afterwards
<developed during
3bf5ad No.16261455
>>16261301
>A nation unto itself, a group of people either forced or self inducted into a way of life that they ultimately truely desire, an ominous other constantly trying to dream themselves a master.
All of that was already in peace walker. In fact, Peace walker is miles better than TPP, somehow.
6f17f6 No.16261467
>>16261455
>Peace walker is miles better than TPP
Again
>To me the Phantom Pain may not have been the pinacle of the Metal Gear Series…but it certainly wasn't a bad game by any stretch of the imagination.
I'd also say argue that PW's themes weren't really the same as TPP's unless were going by some severe rounding and simplification. My general point is though, it wasn't a "bad" game, hence my confusion at the about face neo-/v/ has had to the game.
12ed25 No.16261719
>>16237235
This "boss battle" against an army of fucking russians was better than Sahelantropus or rhe fucking parasites.
And music was a very important part of the mix, made the whole battle and dying attempts worth.
50e88d No.16261772
>>16261370
>Only game except peace walker after 2 kojima genuinely wanted to make or at least lied well enough in front of a camera
>End product looks slightly better than unity asset flips
>A controversial topic that might make him live bideo gaems
>Sean Murray beat him to the punch
>>16261301
> and even defended its cut ending (thanks Konami) because of the obvious sabotage so a certain group of big noses could go on to make Pachinko Sims.
Where are the cut assets in survive?
there's moss-covered sahelantropus, that's it.
>le konami sabotage
Yeah, they sabotaged themselves by giving 80 million dollars to a known hack.
>Had the ending mission been implemented I'd venture people would now call it a perfect game, but obviously that didn't happen
Mission 51 I presume?
I'd like to know what happened to missions 33, 34, 36, 37, 39, 40, 42, 44, 47, 48, 49, 50 that have vanished without a trace.
>>16261301
>a group of people either forced or self inducted into a way of life that they ultimately truely desire
Imagine desiring living on a plant in seychelles with no showers, mess hall, fishing rods, or anything to do other than aimlessly roaming around.
>>16261750
>It's supposed to be that way!
The Mission 51 mockumentary is a bait, becuase there's a dozen missions missing with no hints as to what they were.
786db3 No.16261796
>>16231541
Jesus the Fox Engine and TPP assets had such a great color balance it looks so good.
>>16239567
I distinctly remember a codec call explaining the red blood.
ae2296 No.16262762
>>16231776
Only tangentially related, but I recently watched a video about why mgs4 is a bad game and sequel, and an interesting premise for it he talked about was that it was because kojima was too focused on fan-service and trying to explain everything. Like Raiden having to be in mgs4 because he was in 2 and people wanted to know what happened with him, even though his arc was finished. And vamp had to be there because raiden needed an antagonist and had no one else, despite vamp having no rational reason to be helping liquid ocelot.
And Big Boss had to be the center of evertything because he was so popular due to 3, and people wanted to see him more, so they made him part of the patriots, as well as all of his stupid infiltration team friends who are obsessed with godzilla, and stupid old war films. And then of course it all had to tie back to the boss because the boss was important to big boss, and zero, so she has to be a major factor in this, and big boss needs a big antagonist too. And then to explain everything else it was nanomachines nanomachines nanomachines, parasites.
Then of course there was the other stuff added in, like overly long cutscenes, barely used locations, like the eastern europe city in the stalking mission, and the boring reused bosses who aped all the former bosses and had totally sad pasts that makes you care about them. As well as naomis retarded death.
88c8e9 No.16262780
04cb54 No.16262799
>>16261796
I remember Doktor explaining that Raiden's blood was enhanced with some state-of-the-art tech, making it white. Everyone else wasn't on the cutting edge.
e20538 No.16262805
>>16262762
You know what was the worst problem in MGS4? Is that you didn't play as a woman and the whole game was nothing but lewd interrogation sessions with the BB unit and the FROGs.
Pic unrelated.
I was never a fan of the camo mechanics in MGS3 and above. I was always under the impression that stealth games are at their weakest when you slow down the game to a crawl to not disturb a sound/visibility meter, and I vaguely recall the ship segment with all the frogs near the end was exactly that for like 10 unbroken minutes.
7f696c No.16262953
>>16261796
Are you serious when you say that it has such a great color balance?
I mean, I do agree but it's hard to tell in this board if someone is trolling.
d48586 No.16263846
I just wish it had more spooky supernatural shit
8d151a No.16263889
1: No level design, because there are no levels. More alternatives how to approach a problem was actually a negative, as it is way too easy
2: Butchered story, thanks Konami