/v/ - Video Games

I always pirated GOG games because they are the easiest to install.

>>16215088

OP isn't the dev. Cleve at least tries to be entertaining in his shitposting due to his neanderthal genes.

Well lets be honest, if GOG allows EARLY ACCESS abandonware games then why the fuck would they kick this out? The only reason that this is happening has to be because of political plays behind the scenes which is a damn shame really because this game really should be clicking with the old school first person RPG games that they have a large collection of, so the line about being too niche is just a crock of shit.

Jesus christ please don't tell me I'm going to have to listen to failed devs from both sides of the tism spectrum now.

Just self publish if GOG doesn't want to host you, clearly you're niche enough to self distribute

>muh based good old games!

>>16215098

I'm just saying OP has shown no proof what so ever. Literally no proof. This happened weeks ago and I have seen this pop up now and then and when Anons ask for simple proof none is given. The just go on about how GoG is woke with no context.

>>16215075

Amen to that, brother.

>>16215039

Steam accepts every trash game

>waaaah they are flooding the store

GOG curates their store

>waaaah I'm being persecuted

You can't have it both ways, anon.

>>16215118

>Literally no proof.

What the fuck? You want proof? Is this obscure and dated forum post not good enough for you? Pathetic, the juice have won again.

is this the 3rd or 4th thread about this GoG reject cuck dev?

give substantial and definitive proof that they wrote him emails every week for 3 years begging him to release on GoG, then show substantial and definitive proof he got rejected over politics

if you can't then stop wasting my bandwidth

>>16215207

>worst than

>worst

Retard.

>>16215203

Decent roll games are always good fun.

>>16215039

>Too Niche

That's probably the lamest reason ever to not publish something. You could've easily have gotten him on quality concerns.

>>16215143

>Clips

>Based slavs will save gaming goys trust us

>>16215061

Because he's not just autistic, He's THE NEANDERTHAL

>>16215039

NYPA you sperg

>>16215242

>Randomly throwing out NYPA

Wow anon you've lurked for so long. I bet they love back on KYM.

>>16215199

>Sasha

>railgun

>beetle

>food because doubles

>tank negated by railgun

>apartment

11 points and a perfect scenario. Nice.

>>16215143

This is a slide but I want to play.

>>16215217

My roll was to fuck a ripped chick in an apartment while shooting tanks with a railgun and drive around in my fag car with tons of supplies.

That's a better game experience than I've gotten in nearly 10 years.

>>16215248

>Random

fuck off it's clear that OP is only here in hopes to get someone to do the work for him

>>16215143

rollan

>>16215219

I mean the only reliable information in that rejection is "no, we're not putting it on our store".

Everything else could just be them trying to be polite in order to not make the autist too mad (which failed).

Oh dear…

>>16215264

>fugging the zorastrian demon of lasciviousness

Quick question: Why was the stuff outlining looking into possible GoG and SJW influence deleted? There may or may not be evidence with other developers. We just have to be careful with who we contact and try to deduce their credibility.

the same tactics used to turn gg into a joke are at work in this thread, guess there is no reason to fix what isn't broke

>>16215143

Roll

Wasn't that the utter garbage rpg game made by some autist who calls everyone "sapes"?

Did he ever give the manual he promised?

>>16215143

roll

>>16215143

>(DO THIS SHIT AGAIN AND I'LL STICKY THE FUCKING THREAD)

do it faggot

>>16215269

>>16215242

I think you're trying too hard to fit in. It's about raising awareness about the current climate of the industry. You shouldn't give money to those who want to screw consumers and creators over.

>>16215139

I actually couldn't care less about curation. Put Rape Sim 2019 and Dyke Walking Sim: Current Year + 5 next to each other on the home page of your store for all I give a fuck. I don't use these digital storefronts to decide which games to play anyway.

I feel it's quite likely he wasn't published because of who he is, Cleve has pissed off a lot of humorless people over the years.

>>16215404

Melonhead detected.

>>16215118

>>16215147

There's proof if you consider his words, their standards with other titles in the past, the action that they did towards their social media manager, and current climate of the industry. They're just playing it safe because they're in a position where they're at financial risk. Hence why they're currently changing their policies ( >>16177612 )

Whenever they have plenty of "fuck you" money, then they'll confirm everything that people implicitly thought about them. The neutral move would have been to delay it further as opposed to rejecting it outright.

>>16215449

They're switching their focus to make money now. That's why they made the move to discontinue their fair pricing program.

>too niche

Better stop reselling all that long dead abandonware then.

>>16215143

>stickying a cleve sperg thread

He's lurking here right now, say hello to the grimoire dev

>>16215458

This thread was made a month ago when it first happened, and that one at least had more screencaps of Cleve's banter. What is with today and the sudden deluge of GoG threads?

>>16215458

>posting the boomer frog

>in 2019

Anyone that knows Cleve knows he's a notorious shitposter. I still remember his claims about SSI and how they supposedly had whole boxes filled with sex toys, pedophilia on their PCs and engaged in wild orgies.

Now, I'm not saying that he's lying, just to take anything he says with a modicum of salt.

>>16215502

You mean Sirtech? Where someone later came across their docs in an auction and validated his claims about penis monsters.

>>16215143

Rollan.

>>16215511

>and validated his claims about penis monsters

He made a shitload of other claims against them. I'm not saying Cleve is lying in this instance, just that he has a history of embellishing the truth.

>>16215039

So when will devs start releasing games in fitgirl repacks?

>>16215143

Isn't thread derailing a bannable offense? Why are you even letting it slide faggot?

>>16215039

i love cleve but you really have to be skeptical of anything he puts out there

>>16215569

Retards trying to launch their retard brigade into applying personal army pressure on behalf of some no name shovelware developer (who is probably personally stirring all this up).

>>16215088

>periods at the end of greentext

>forum full of wizards

>brigade people

You stick out like a sore thumb.

>>16215598

What I seem to get that this australian shitposter said his game was the coming of jesus 2 but turned out to be shit and no one wants his game in a storefront, did I got that right?

Grimoire is a classic RPG, it severely triggers the mouthbreathing 56%ers who enjoy modern games because it doesn't hold their hand and play itself for them.

>>16215577

So you admit that he is very dramatic in his approach to telling the truth. This is what I'm taking from this. The truth being his game was refused to be released on GOG with the dramatics of it being it was because of political beliefs. He does this to cause a shitstorm in his autistic fanbase to smear GOG.

>>16215616

Sounds about right. And he says, without any evidence that it's the SJWs that did it. Meanwhile he posted what GoG told him which is transparently an attempt to let him down gently because his game is bad, but they don't want to say it (in case he makes something good in the future).

>>16215616

grimoire is actually not bad if you're into the old-school dungeon crawler style of rpg (wizardry, might and magic, dungeon master, eye of the beholder etc). the dev is a fucking weird dude though

Cleve, I know youre this. Never slack man, your game is great

>>16215264

Pat chibi on the head until we break into the servant bitch'es mansion, shank her and take her crystal supply. Then power up chibi into a demon lord tier eldritch queen. Only then the dick will commence.

>>16215480

Fuck off leftypol

on one hand you fuckers complain when indie trash floods gog

now you are complaining that they arent letting everything in

fuck you idiots

>>16215636

>dev is a fucking weird dude though

If you're a normalfag, then sure.

>>16215628

Grimoire is no worse than many of the other oldschool dungeon crawlers that are on GOG. The given reason does stink, so the answer could very well be that GOG didn't want to associate their brand with a "toxic" person like Cleve.

>>16215659

Or it could just be that a decent dungeon crawler from 1996 can be sold with lower consumer expectations than a dungeon crawler from 2017. Having the two be of the same quality raises the question of why have the latter in the first place.

>>16215666

Given there is a niche audience on GOG who consumes oldschool crawlers, and this game clearly presents itself in the same vein, I highly doubt consumer expectations would be wildly different.

>check GOG forum

>"teehee you believe in SJWs you're so CUH-razy!"

>googoo gaagaa baby babbling projected at anyone not with the cult

why are these first world millennial commies always like this?

>>16215666

(checked)

Sometimes, over the course of months or years video game consumers may buy more than one game. Especially if its cheap.

>>16215679

Among enthusiasts? Sure. Among casuals? No. Your average steam user, which is the market CD Projekt would love to have a share of for obvious reasons, expects a lot more from a game that says it came out in 2017 than they would get if they bought Grimoire.

>>16215684

>why are these first world millennial commies always like this?

Don't try to get into the mind of the average gogfag, it isn't good for your health.

>>16215692

Average steam users don't buy oldschool dungeon crawlers at all, those that do would understand what they are getting if they simply looked at a screenshot or read the description. You can go back now, your posting style reeks of neofaggotry.

>>16215692

>a niche audience for a certain type of game on gog

>but steam users won't like it

>this means gog shouldn't sell it

It totally fucking irrelevant that gog wants the steam userbase never going to happen anyway. They are people on gog right now that would buy this game.

>>16215712

And more people who would be turned off by Gog taking Steam's level of quality control (none).

>>16215712

i bought it on steam and i would probably buy a drm free copy of it

>>16215718

You legitimately believe GOG users would be upset by the inclusion of Grimoire? C'mon, try harder.

>>16215736

it's very good but very criptic and the newer patches made the game a little easier.

>>16215736

>I just looked up screenshots and it looks good

So does left alive

>>16215736

Sure doesn't look good. Nor does that 30 on MetaCritic.

>>16215616

>>16215569

>>16215598

>tasteless faggots blowing off a good dungeon crawler because OP is a faggot

This is why you don't make shit OPs.

>>16215744

Yeah because if you released a classic dungeon crawler today it would definitely get a high score on MetaCritic.

>>16215747

Do you understand that his game is doing like shit for being mostly vaporwave and having an ego of the size of scam citizen money pool?

>>16215754

Do you understand that I have seen this game in action and you are wrong, and that vaporwave is a bad genre of music?

>dev having an ego makes his game shit retroactively

I guess that means Doom was always garbage.

>>16215456

>They're switching their focus to make money now.

Watch as they keep shuffling closer to implementing their own DRM as time goes on

>Oh, we're just a poor webshop, we can't keep up with competition

>>16215767

Doom was always heavily overrated and still is, Grimoire is pretty good though.

>People claiming that GOG was curating a game due to quality

>GOG claims game is too niche

>Sells Wizardry games

>Entire foundation is niche games

>GOG floods their store with shit indie games that can't even muster a dozen reviews on Steam after they have failed on the market

>>16215743

You fucking faggot, Left Alive doesn't look good in any screen shot. Not even as a joke.

>>16215774

It's hit and miss depending on level but Romero's levels were always good despite his ego.

>>16215781

Didnt he make that daikatana failure?

One of the worst reviewed games of all time?

That took a whole studio even longer to shit out than one neet in a basement making grimoir?

>>16215785

If the point if your post was to make me chuckle slightly for a moment you succeeded.

>>16215775

<Sells Wizardry games

Wizardry is massively influential as being more or less the progenitor of all JRPGS. Grimoire is an irrelevant indie game made by a sperg.

>play the victim when you increase the price of all your games because "we just don't make enough money"

>fire a bunch of your staff

>refuse to sell a game because it's too "niche" when most of the shit you sell is old niche stuff

Sounds like a failing business ran by retards.

When the fuck did GoG become like this?

>>16215801

Sperg literally made Wizardry games before making his own Wizardry clone before being denied by GOG, whose market exists almost entirely to buy games like Wizardry.

Obviously it is about quality and how popular a game is. Obviously Grimoire can't match up to the wireframe dungeons of Wizardry. Politics has nothing to do with it. Politics never has anything to do with it unless obviously stated. Hidden agendas don't exist. Shills don't exist either. Take your meds and loosen those tinfoil hats you crazy nutjob schizos

>>16215801

>progenitor of all JRPGS

That's Ultima, kid.

>Steam deletes cute anime girls and keeps gay child molestation

>GoG has hundreds of soygames that have a shit rating on Steam with barely any sales and denies a neanderthal his proper place

>Origins is EA

>Uplay is Ubisoft

>Discord is Discord

>humblebundle has had gay bundles

>itch.io is newgrounds, but with less quality and more paying

I just want to give the small handful of good devs that still exist money without having some gay furry funnel off a cut goddamnit.

>>16215811

crpg isn't the same as jrpg grandpa.

>>16215784

<looks good therefore is good

faggotry, didn't have any better example at hand

>>16215814

You aren't very bright, are you?

>>16215805

I'd like to know this too. Did their management change or something? They started out strong, but I'd say they've only got a couple years left at this point. They should have just held on to their niche status instead of trying to compete with steam.

>>16215796

I was pointing out that "vaporwave" was the wrong term to use. It seemed like you thought I had also used it mistakenly.

>>16215792

Daikatana was shit but it was directed by Romero after he had taken his ego to critical levels. Romero was only a level designer that did a bit of programming when he made Doom. If he had stuck to level design, he might be more successful than he is now. Although I doubt the quality of his "new Doom episode," at least based on the screenshots his aesthetic choices are terrible – which is again strange since all the levels he was credited for were the most coherent aesthetically in Doom. They looked like real facilities to an extent whereas Sandy Petersen is famous for "it's an abstract kind of hell."

Did I hit another time loop? Isn't this old.

>>16215854

old news?

>>16215867

>Wojcieh Mroczek

according to linked in he doesn't work at gog anymore, and the 3rd pic guy and him have different noses, foreheads and hair colors.

>>16215143

May as well be the apocalypse considering the state of gaming.

>>16215882

What the fuck.

>>16215890

>oy vey goyim we're importing tens of millions of niggers and dune coons into your countries

>wow look at that the average IQ went down

>I guess this is the fault of whites

Reported.

>>16215851

Wasn't his megawad supposed to be out last month? Did that get delayed?

>>16215264

Loli Jahy a best.

>>16215882

>>16215878

Huh, you're actually right. The similarity threw me off. The man in OP's third pic is actually David Shapiro.

>>16215900

>both are somewhat blonde, not fat and with facial hair

>wtf they're the same man

Do you have prosopagnosia?

>>16215890

>Over the last 15 years, the West has lost 10 IQ points

Sounds like nonsense.

glad i never pay for games

now you are derailing the thread with irrelevant bullshit

GO.FUCK.YOURSELF.

>>16215810

>hidden agendas doesn't exist

lmao at this baiting retard

>>16215895

No difference between niggers and leftists whites.

>>16215908

It is nonsense. The west has lost at least 20 iq points.

>>16215939

There's about a 20 IQ point gap. Liberal whites aren't stupid they are brainwashed.

t. was raised by them

>>16215928

ESL, please study more before posting.

>>16215933

People have always been dumb, the difference is that society has oriented itself towards fooling and pandering to the dumb, rather than restraining or uplifting them through shame. People smart enough to trick themselves but not wise enough to see it have always been the trouble makers.

>>16215867

>Wojcieh Mroczek

First name is Polish too so I have to assume he's ethnic Polish or a jew who's stolen both first and last names from them

>>16215921

>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa my jewish shilling was exposed

>>16215750

>Yeah because if you released a classic dungeon crawler today it would definitely get a high score on MetaCritic.

That's a purely hypothetical question. It's a matter of fact that Grimoire has an abysmal 30 on MetaCritic. Perhaps if Wizardry 8 were released today it would too, but there's no way to prove that's the case. Furthermore the standards for a game in 2019 are different than the standards in 2001. Grimoire looks like an abortion by 2017 standards so it earned its low score.

>>16215890

>Over the last 15 years, the West has lost 10 IQ points

Thats due to an influx of immigrants from the low IQ races.

>>16215148

Everything Cleve said about Stones of Arnhem, including the penis monsters, was shown to be absolutely true when some design documents went up for sale on ebay. Cleve is crazy, but he doesn't lie.

>buying games

no

>>16215962

>implying cuck/pol/ is anything like real /pol/

All the whites moved to 8chan when they had a chance.

>>16215976

Show me some kike nazis.

>>16215957

>still going on about MetaCritic

shameful

>>16215986

Your boyfriend's game is objectively shit. Give it up.

>>16215990

Objectively one guy reviewed it on MetaCritic, so objectively, by MetaCritic standards even, that score is shit at informing a judgement.

>>16215039

>too niche

so what, does it really cost that much to host some 500mb indie shit?

>>16216064

Flooding your storefront with trash is a good way to stop people from wanting to use it. See also: Steam.

>>16216085

There are a lot of actual trash indie games on gog that could go instead. You seem to be working pretty hard on this thread. How much do you make per post?

>>16216099

I don't work for anyone but myself.

>>16216107

Gog could use to be more selective, but I don't blame them for not wanting some random indie game. Said indie dev being butthurt over them not wanting his game doesn't make it the result of SJW brigading, especially since there is no real source (i.e. screencaps from Neofag, Resetera, or tumblr) proving that there is any campaign whatsoever against his game or his person.

>>16216099

>>16216107

>please don't interrupt my hyperbolic lying

Some people just love the truth more than sperging out.

You wouldn't understand it's a non-subhuman thing.

Also arguing that there are other games that shouldn't be on there doesn't really help the case of your game being on.

>>16215039

>3rd pic

Wasn't that furfag later uncovered as a big fan of The Grimoire who was also very enthusiastic about getting the game published on GOG?

>>16215988

>Go home nazi scum

Where is this "home" you speak of?

>>16216120

Nigger you are trying too hard.

>>16215143

MOTIVATED

Is there any actual proof that this is the reason, other than

>private email from someone else at the company

?

Wouldn't surprise me though, Hatred wasn't allowed for the same reason. I've not bought anyone on GOG since they refused that game while allowing political correct walking sims.

Despite it's flaws at least Steam seems to be relatively untouched by SJWs. The censorship of porn games may just be to avoid legal issues of selling the game to minors, not political correctness. I don't buy from them either though, with their DRM.

>>16216117

I don't think it is "SJW brigading" it's that Cleve has made enemies in the industry from people who find his personality and politics distasteful. This is an indication, especially when taken with all the other things that have come from GOG over the years, of the same incestuous cronyism and pseudo-moralistic grandstanding infecting GOG as the rest of the industry.

>>16216198

And yet there isn't evidence of a single neofaggot circlejerk about how problematic or triggering whatever he believes is preceding this non-troversy. Maybe these people don't like him, but there's no evidence other than his words that there is any sort of a campaign against him, and these are people who tend to openly coordinate their campaigns on their platforms.

retarded millennial politics or not, it still makes no sense to deny his autistic blobber game on a platform whose sole reason to exist is to cater to people who like games from an era that saw such games as shining examples of a genre

>>16216144

>>16216173

Its the fucking grimoire dev, he's a notorious shitposting autist who also spergs out about any critisism of the game he stole and sold

>>16215088

GOGs excuses of the game being "too niche" and "too small scale" for the GOG audience is bullshit though.

>>16216250

Is that meant to be a negative example of Cleve's behavior?

>>16215143

rollan

>>16216275

nah his comments are funny as fuck but he doesnt take legit critisism well even if its something legitimately fucked with the game

>>16216263

Did GOG even release a statement on the issue? Seems to me we only have Cleve's word to go on.

>>16216250

>>16216245

>stole and sold

Proof?

>>16215143

Ah fuck it, rolling.

>>16216297

He stole the leftover code from one of the Wizardry games, repurposed it and sold it on

>>16215143

roll

>>16216263

Aren't you jumping to conclusions with "GoG excuses"? Why are you assuming that the screencap is from an actual email from GoG and not something that guy wrote himself? There isn't even an email or subject in the screencap, not even the signatures that every company has their employees use at the bottom of the email with their contacts.

Besides, there's a few red flags there. Companies don't usually use acronyms in emails for the sake of clarity, especially not their own name. Every single GOG would be "Good Old Games" in there.

Keep in mind that half of the email sounds like a sales pitch too with "rich RPG game, with complex combat, deep lore, fun mechanics and simple yet eye-catching retro graphics".

It looks a lot more like Cleve faked the email and couldn't resist praising his own game in it.

It's even more suspicious when, after said sales pitch, they come back with "small in scale in terms of production value". It's contradictory. Not to mention more than half of GoG's catalog being niche games so not even the other half makes sense.

I'm serious here, this looks more like a badly made fake email than an actual response from GoG.

>>16216320

While overly complementary, I'll push back on the idea that the email is faked by saying that I think a faked email would have been more explicit about the grounds of its exclusion being political as Cleve contends. I think what's going on is CD Projekt sees potential in the dev in question and recognizes that he has a fragile ego so they butter him up before letting him down. As for the lack of a signature and the usage of acronyms, I think that can be attributed to CD Projekt (and possibly Polish businesses in general) just having a different corporate culture than Western publishers.

>>16216263

Sure you could argue that this was just a nice way of saying "fuck off with that garbage" while trying to not be insulting, but that wouldn't change their decision.

>>16216320

>Every single GOG would be "Good Old Games" in there.

Pretty sure that GOG is called GOG and not good old games.

>>16216313

>actually believing this bullshit

Wew.

>>16215143

Fuck it

Game looks low quality and grossly outdated, am OK with this failing. Suspect this may be the dev's way of getting attention for his shitty game.

>>16215143

rolling

>>16216313

he asked you for proof you retarded nigger, not your made up theory bullshit.

>>16215143

I'm confused on the direction this has toaken but ok

>>16216409

So organic! This one is probably the least obvious shill. Others should learn from this example.

>>16216455

Well, nobody has anything better than a few cropped pics to prove it's a hoax that Cleve made, while the other side has nothing but hearsay to prove he actually stole code.

Really, the only concrete thing here is that the guy has so much autism it can actually physically manifest in this realm.

So in keeping with the theme of cropped, out of context images that serve only to stimulate your imagination, I'd say cropped porn is a perfect follow up.

But you better also post a spoiled pic of the whole thing, don't be a fucking nigger faggot.

>>16216139

Their hearts.

>>16216467

At the end of the day it'll be extremely difficult to see what's truth and what's fiction unless gog comes out and posts why and if they declined to publish Grimoire, but it doesn't make Cleve's posts any less amusing.

>>16216202

What part of "within the industry" do you not get?

>>16216495

The part where there's no substantiation to that either.

>>16215143

roll

>>16216503

There's no substantiation for a lot of things in the world, anon, you have to read between the lines and pay attention. Blakemore has been seen as overly an asshole and hated for decades, grudges would naturally build up. You've already chosen a subjective interpretation that has no factual basis either, so it's not like you aren't helping your own arguments.

>>16216503

Nigger, they there were people in the industry hating him enough there's a character parodying him in Jagged Alliance 2

>>16216539

Specifically Brenda Brathwaite and co., now John Romero's wife, who he's been critical of for many years. If people who work for GOG are friend's with them, then no wonder.

>>16216539

Parodying a lolcow isn't proof that the lolcow is persecuted.

>>16215143

Rolling

>>16216561

>lolcow

Ah, you have severe autism.

>>16216561

He was their fucking co-worker.

>>16216578

Then doubly deserving of parody.

>>16216536

There's no substantiation for a lot of #METOO accusations, anon, you have to read between the lines and pay attention. White males have been seen as overly asshole and hated for decades, grudges would naturally build up. You've already chosen a subjective interpretation that has no factual basis either, so it's not like you aren't helping your own arguments.

That's how ridiculous you look like. The other post hasn't chosen anything, let alone a "subjective" interpretation (do you even know what that words means?) Asking for evidence before believing a claim is the sane and regular thing to do. Asking to believe a claim based on hearsay alone is pure insanity. Or more "listen & believe".

Take for instance this: >>16216539 >>16216553

If there is solid proof behind these claims, that proof would be posted instead of merely alluding to something that may or may not exist and hope everyone else doesn't bother to check on it.

There's a character in JA2 to mock him? Post a link to some wikia article on the character with trivia about it, some citations from the devs talking about that character and why they made it or at very least make a comparison between both and how they are similar.

John Romero's fleshdoll doesn't like the guy? Post something she said to corroborate that at the very least, but try to follow it up with her demanding his failure or something more subjective.

Keep in mind that there are JA2 fans here and El Goblina is an easy mark to rally anyone against her. It's not for lack of oportunity that you don't find 100% support for your claims, it's your own laziness in properly articulating and fundamenting them.

>>16216590

He determined that GOG was strictly doing quality control and curating their storefront, when I had doubts about their explanation he handwaved them consistently without a strong rebuttal. I'm not "listening and believing", I'm making my mind up based on using my intelligence to understand the connections between events.

Google Calvin Barkmore.

>>16216590

>Post a link to some wikia article on the character with trivia about it

Calvin Barkmore

https://jaggedalliance.fandom.com/wiki/Calvin_Barkmore

>>16216583

>deflecting this hard

You went from "there is no evidence anyone hated him" to "well he deserved it".

>>16216590

>There's a character in JA2 to mock him? Post a link to some wikia article on the character with trivia about it

Okay, you triplenigger.

https://jaggedalliance.fandom.com/wiki/Calvin_Barkmore

Calvin Barkmore, clearly a play on Cleveland Blakemore. Most of his lines directly refference shit Cleve is known to say.

>>16216594

>He determined that GOG was strictly doing quality control and curating their storefront

He said that as a likely explanation but not as the actual reason. There's no need to give a strong rebuttal to your doubts since it's perfectly okay to have them, considering he also has no proof that he is correct.

Reading his posts, it just seems like he is using Occam's Razor a bit too much, but that's it.

>I'm not "listening and believing", I'm making my mind up based on using my intelligence to understand the connections between events.

If that's what you're doing, why are you then taking the other side when there's an equal amount of evidence to believe it? As in, none.

There's just allegations from the Dev himself and a screenshot of something that, for all we know could even be a Word document, not even an email.

If you're going to use your intelligence, don't let your own bias stop you from carrying on. I ain't believing GoG refused the guy for political reasons, just like I ain't believing he stole code without also seeing any evidence.

Only thing I can tell for sure is that he pissed someone on the JA2 enough to the point of making a "cameo" in it as that character, which considering the infamy he has, sounds more like revenge than pettiness.

>>16216597

>>16216602

>>16216619

Yeah, I went looking for that in the meantime, found a thread on RPG Codex, which I'm taking with a boulder of salt since they could easily be biased against him too.

It still comes off across as if he was an asshole to everyone around him and insufferable to work with or talk to, which is why the devs made that character and how he has the fame he has now.

However, to believe that those who dislike him would actually contact GoG to have them refuse his game or even that they have the power to do that? I'm gonna need stronger evidence than a mocking cameo for the guy.

Does any of that even seem any more realistic than Cleave figuring out he is not gonna sell much more on GoG than on Steam (considering it's a smaller platform) and instead concocts all this drama to play the underdog and hope the controversy alone nets him a few more sales?

>>16216602

>You went from "there is no evidence anyone hated him" to "well he deserved it".

No I didn't. I went from "there's not evidence any conspiracy against him or his game exists" to "parody from co-workers is certainly 'not' evidence of an SJW conspiracy".

>>16216626

So GOG deems hipster walking simulators a-ok for their store, but an RPG with hundreds of hours of content, styled as a successor to Wizardry, ain't gonna cut it? In the context of the shit they let on their platform, the refusal due to quality concerns (Grimoire isn't even bad, it just looks like ass and requires a large amount of autism to play. Neither of which should be an issue seeing as how half the old games on their store are that way) or being "too niche" makes no sense. What other reason could there be for them to refuse a good game other than personal bias and politics?

>>16216653

Successors usually endeavor to improve on what they pull inspiration back, not regress it.

>>16216647

>However, to believe that those who dislike him would actually contact GoG

They wouldn't need to, the internet is full of his shitposts and there plenty of butthurt faggots in the wishlist thread (see OP pic 2). If they as much as googled his name, they'd immediately come up with posts of him shitting on niggers and leftists. I used JA2 as an example to show he certainly isn't some unknown nobody and that he has a history of pissing people off.

The game has no marketing and looks like it was released in 1996. Its appeal is incredibly niche, I'm not surprised GOG doesn't think they can make money on it.

>>16216626

I would have my doubts that GOG refused to put an infamous old school dungeon crawler on their store regardless of proffered explanation. As far as taking the email as real, this is what we've all been doing as I doubt Blakemore would set himself up in a way to be called out for libelous accusations, considering he's a known identity. I think it's obvious they don't want an association with Blakemore from fear of bad PR. I'm sure he's stirring the pot for attention, same as always, but it does tell me something of the direction that GOG is moving as an organization. Other than that I'm just speculating anyway, that was my point, we are all speculating based on preexisting biases. I forget you skeptic newfags aren't aware of all the shit I've seen over the years though, that is my fault, but Google names, credits, and associations and you can piece it together a bit. You are right that I'm just too lazy to present it well.

Isn't the developer the guy that managed the vault-co blog? The one that was de-indexed from Google long before the current waves of censorship got so intense?

>>16215039

>too niche

everytime with this shit

fucking sapes need to be genocided anyway, fucking decline enabling motherfuckers

>>16216653

>So GOG deems

Stop this shit right now. You do not know what the stance of GoG is. All you have is a terrible screencap done by the Dev himself as "evidence".

There's no "GoG deems X better than this game" because we haven't even concluded that GoG ever even said anything about the game at all!

There's literally nothing to prove anything here, other than his peers mocking him with that JA2 character.

Cleve says (in one of those screencaps in this thread) that GoG emailed him once every week for a whole year to get the game on their platform and then refused when it was ready. Does that even make any sense to you? And I'm not just talking about dropping it in the end, I mean emailing once every single week for a year to get a game like Grimoire in GoG. Cleve is the one desperate to have his game on any platform to sell, CDProject definitely does not need Grimoire to make cash at all.

It's all just too absurd, which seeing how apparently Cleve likes to embelish the truth should seriously make you wonder the veracity of any of this.

Heck, he might not even believed the game would sell on GoG. Never contacted anyone from CDP, never even tried to have his game sold there. But when it failed horribly on Steam, only then did he try his luck at it.

Or maybe he didn't, he just fabricated the drama to boost sales on Steam.

Or maybe he did and CDP doesn't want to have anything to do with this drama whore. Maybe he contacted them and they didn't even bother to reply back.

Have you seriously considered the many different and far more reasonable explanations for all this shit other than "GoG wants to put the Neanderthal down!"?

>>16216674

The only vaguely relevant evidence in the thread is that his former co-workers parodied him in Jagged Alliance 2 (taking specific aim at his politics, calling the Army "dope-puffing socialists")

>>16216619

I don't find it compelling, but feel free to make up your own mind on it.

>>16216675

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/costco-is-secret-melonhead-food-repository-for-elite-apocalypse-shelters/

>>16216674

>doubles down on this being some marketing scheme

The only ones selling anything in this thread are gog damage control shills with vapid responses that are often (1) and done. There is so much unreasonable doubt being thrown around by you obvious faggots that it is hilarious to behold and worth satirizing again and again.

>>16216693

web.archive.org/web/20170522232417/http://vault-co.blogspot.com/2017/02/costco-australia-is-same-as-costco.html

CostCo Australia Is The Same As CostCo America

> My contract ends this week at current place of business.

> I've been going to CostCo to eat lunch most days because it is so cheap.

> Today after finishing off my delicious bean bake burrito I decided to go for a little exploration.

> I had been looking at the elevated concrete deck and stairs over a story high for weeks outside of CostCo. I had walked the perimeter a few times and looked at this colossal building from every angle. I have a lot of experience with underground structures. I get hunches about what I am looking at, even when the builders have gone to great lengths (as I would) to conceal their handiwork.

> For example, trying to disguise an air intake as a large bench and tree planter. Ordinary people don't see these things. A guy like me might as well have a large flashing sign with an arrow reading THIS WAY TO THE SUBTERRENE.

> I had suspicions. I thought something might be going on there. I have read a lot about the bizarre closings of Walmarts across America, the midnight demolitions and the rumors of underground storage facilities, possibly to provide resupply to elites after a nuclear war.

> Somebody was driving a pallet of consumer goods through one of the access doors to the warehouse and I waited until they passed. I walked down the ramp inside the storage center to a bunch of corridors and then down a flight of stairs. I was planning to tell anybody who asked I was looking for the restroom if discovered. I didn't see anybody for a minute or two and I was quite deep underground. Nobody would dream from the outside it went this far down.

> I passed a break office with a glass window and some employees sitting inside eating lunch. I strode past and reached the corner just in time to get a look at a long corridor leading back towards the parking lot except two stories underground. It had big double doors. An entrance to something even larger.

> One of the people came out of the break office and yelled at me, asking me what I was doing. I shrugged and asked where the men's room was. He gestured angrily and pointed back up the stairs. I nodded and walked meekly back the way I came.

> I had really needed to satisfy my curiosity with my last day tomorrow.

> A huge underground storage facility, just like these same chains all over the world. No simple reason for needing to go that deep or for it to be that extensive. I had only captured a glimpse of its expanse. I would bet if you had the keys to this facility you'd see a lot more.

> Just another CostCo. Seen one of 'em you've seen'em all. The best place to hide something is in plain sight where nobody would ever suspect it. Just saying you think CostCo and Walmart may be part of a long term survival plan for the wealthy ruling class after a nuclear war sounds so crazy you'd never repeat it anywhere. It sounds utterly crazy to even say it.

> UPDATE: Meant to include this in the original post. CostCo often locates their stores near natural caverns, abandoned subways and deep infrastructure tunnels. Anywhere in the world you go, you will notice this "coincidence." It is almost like it is a checkbox on their construction list before they break any ground.

>>16216418

>>16216320

Good Old Games rebranded itself as GOG.com in 2012. I don't care about this dev or this game but you're really reaching for reasons to hate this guy, which makes me suspicious.

>>16216701

Wow, those are higher numbers than I thought, but I'd argue that the audience for Grimoire is probably larger on GOG. What do they lose from offering it anyway, it's of similar quality to games they already offer, so the biggest explanation would be that they stand to get bad PR from the usual suspects by associating themselves with the developer.

>>16216701

I loved playing Grimoire, but I knew the sales figure would look like that.

It's a damn shame, decades of work with little payoff.

>>16216722

>I'd argue that the audience for Grimoire is probably larger on GOG.

A lot of people want it on gog:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/grimoire_heralds_of_the_winged_exemplar

>>16216733

What exactly is your point with these posts?

>slav companies will save us they are not poz..

wrong you idiots. The slavs invented pozz.

Where do you think all this fucking bullshit came from.

And the amount of leftwing asshats with polish second names is ridiculous.

Speaking of gog there are so many new retro indie games not on their platform that should be.

Whats the deal big guy?

>>16216173

And some sjw were telling me no censorship of hatred has taken place.

Laughable.

fuck sjw and fuck leftists

>>16216738

The man that developed this game maintained a blog called Vault-Co for quite some time. He had to shut it down supposedly after receiving harassment and threats from the Cabal. He'd been operating the site since around 2001 or so – I think – and his site was one of the first to be de-indexed from Google despite never advocating what the enemy likes to call "white identity extremism". His posts detailed a global conspiracy of a Neanderthal-derived subspecies that he referred to simply as the 'Melonheads'. He postulated that ancient mummies with elongated craniums which get dug up periodically (and then quickly whisked away) are the ancestors of the current hybrid breed of melonheads.

The melonheads are the ones who rule us today as the Cabal, the Cathedral, whatever you want to call it.

The blog posts that I shared were two of the more interesting ones where he discovers that Costco in Australia conceals a subterranean network built for disaster preparedness, for when the melonheads plan to cleanse the Earth in nuclear fire.

I first found out about this guy through Anonymous Conservative's r/K Selection Theory blog.

>>16216770

Australia has a lot of underground tunnels and fortressses because of ww1-ww2 they went a bit minecraft and dug fortifications everywhere.

Australia is actually the biggest fortress in the world.

>>16216467

Are you sure you want that

It's robophillia

>>16216770

Someone should tell him that all of us have neanderthal genes (except niggers).

>>16216722

>it's of similar quality to games they already offer

Doubtful, considering the many complaints I'm seeing about needing a manual that only was released a year later.

And taking that into account, the game has been out for more than an year now? That'd be it already soaked almost anyone interested in paying for it, there's really no point in selling it now.

I'll just take a wild guess here and say that it's merely avoiding association with that guy. Seeing all the crazy shit surrounding him, all the drama, the way he interacts on the steam forums, etc… It looks like trouble in many different flavors, it makes perfect sense not wanting someone like that causing trouble in their community.

Same thing with Hatred, probably. It's not a political issue, it's a PR one. Wanting to distance themselves from drama is perfectly natural for any sane company.

>>16215143

Sticky it anyway; also rollan

>>16216787

>Australia

>ww1-ww2

Wut?

What the hell does the biggest federal prison in the globe has to do with 2 wars that happened in an entirely different hemisphere?

>>16216791

>implying there's anything wrong with *CLANG*

>>16216799

>distance yourself from drama host literal scam walking sims made by evil dykes

What a load of faggotry.

>>16216806

>what does Australia have to do with WORLD wars.

I'm sensing a great amount of retard in this post.

>>16216799

>And taking that into account, the game has been out for more than an year now? That'd be it already soaked almost anyone interested in paying for it, there's really no point in selling it now.

According to the wishlist posted previously there is at least some interest, and there are people who do not patronize Steam on principle, after all.

> It's not a political issue, it's a PR one. Wanting to distance themselves from drama is perfectly natural for any sane company.

Yet this is a position I find it highly distasteful, since I know where this mentality leads, ideological cronyism and self-censorship.

>>16215143

Fuck gog

people need to go back to the shareware model.

These platforms cannot be trusted. Independent distribution is the answer.

>>16215143

Fuckit. Roll.

>>16216693

This shit reads like Q-tier bullshit, they're kikes, of course they're psychopaths, they have different skull shapes compared to caucasoids, no shit jackasses.

>>16216806

It was like the suicide squad, but without negros.

>>16215143

Rollin'

>>16216838

>According to the wishlist posted previously

I saw the list. Was expecting most of the accounts posting there to be sock puppets to be honest, but they seem legit.

It was at 600 or 800 at the time, so that's at least 3x or 4x the amount of sales on Steam, but I don't know if that's worth it for GOG, especially considering they have to deal with the Dev afterwards.

Then again, there's stuff with 14000 votes there that's likely more important, not to mention they seem to care more about high profile names like Diablo 1.

>Yet this is a position I find it highly distasteful

That's understandable and I share the sentiment. Hatred is a game I wouldn't actually buy but agree that it should have been accepted as well.

However GOG's job isn't to cater to every single person on the planet. They are a company and their role is to make money. This means catering to the biggest demographic and this unfortunately means that they have to refuse content like that to stay in business.

It sucks and I wish there were platforms to take that niche, but I'm not egocentric enough to demand or expect a private corporation to put my needs or opinions above their profit.

Although, I do have to ask something first. Is there ANY confirmation at all that GoG was interested in having the game at any point? Besides the Dev saying so?

He waited more than a year to put his game on their platform, something that makes no sense considering the user bases of both.

What if he never had any interest in selling on GOG, never actually tried to get his game on it, and is trying to stay relevant by claiming he was denied something he never asked to begin with?

The screencap in the OP, as it turns out to be, is an exert from a thread he made on RPGCodex, literally written by him, transcribed from an email he claimed to have received.

But there's nothing for GOG anywhere that suggests they ever had any interest in the game, or that they refused it at all. GOG could just be downright unaware of all this or ignoring it altogether.

>>16216964

>However GOG's job isn't to cater to every single person on the planet. They are a company and their role is to make money. This means catering to the biggest demographic and this unfortunately means that they have to refuse content like that to stay in business.

>It sucks and I wish there were platforms to take that niche, but I'm not egocentric enough to demand or expect a private corporation to put my needs or opinions above their profit.

Going on and on with this point that GOG would somehow lose money from putting that game on their store. How the hell would GOG lose money? What negative how they got for putting it up on their store because people sure as hell won't leave it because a Wizardry successor is up on their store.

>>16216964

>sjw tell me Doom was victim to "conservative" censorship

>it never got censored or banned and there was no hurdle to buying it

>fast forward to the present Hatred is denied sale on various stores even steam(per country basis)

>due to leftwingers being autistically retarded and not telling a game is SATIRE causing them to pee themselves.

There is gaping big bloody hole in the narrative pushed by the left that doesnt mesh with actual history and reality.

>>16216430

>>16216390

Hi cleve

>>16216981

Who did the second and fifth one?

>>16217021

No clue about the webm but I think the second one was done by some furfag brony artists. I think that image was a one-off.

>>16217049

I thought it was by a certain drawfag who used to visit here.

>>16216982

>>16216991

I don't agree that they'd lose money, actually.

The outrage culture that makes several faggots come out of the woodwork to demand something is removed only lasts for a while until the next controversy shows up. It's highly emotional and therefore it fizzles once emotions calm down, so after a week or so they still think it should be banned, they just can't be bothered to protest anymore.

But I doubt these companies know this yet. It's too soon for them to have enough case studies to understand this and common sense tells them otherwise considering the sheer volume of outrage about these kind of things, especially when they consider everyone posting a possible client (when everyone knows the Left doesn't even buy their own propaganda)

Alternatively, it's one of those things where you, the customer, never actually see the effect of it but they do.

If Hatred was released on that platform, all you'd see was a game you're willing to buy and do so. You don't see the loss in sales in any upcoming game from everyone that ditches GOG and moves back to Steam, you don't see the indie scene shifting even more to Itch.io and other alternatives.

Those things may end up costing them more money than what they'd make selling Hatred, and while I can't say that for sure, they likely have analytics that make projections for this kind of stuff and decide that it's not worth it jeopardizing future sales for short term profit with a very controversial game.

Again, you can protest all you want (and you should) but you can't see this only from your side or you'll never understand why things are the way they are, you'll just have your own conjecture on their reasoning. Much like this thread actually, projecting their own ideas on why this happened, based on nothing but a transcript that the Dev wrote and GOG never even commented on.

>>16215143

Rollan post more Sasha you cunt

>>16217064

>yet another fag ignores peoples posts in his reply

Point is retard these people are successfully getting games censored/banned

As someone pointed out it has a self-censoring effect.

Devs in the future will be more likely to just censor anything and everything out of their games because they want the release.

People need to face facts. Gaming needs to go back to being underground.

Soy slurping cal art drawing sjw faggots cannot handle mature things or conversation.

They are ratcheting everything to be the same juvenile gayfest of niggers.

The world needs more guys like Notch and less "platforms"

>>16217064

I'm also not expecting to find many people on this board or even on this entire site that understand the importance of good PR for business, considering half of the posters are /pol/ crossposters that clearly don't give a fuck about PR and there's the whole Gamergate schism where about half also said "fuck PR" because they also don't understand the point of it.

If GOG wants to be an alternative to Steam, it started from a much worse position and their whole schtick is "no-DRM" while also being famous for having old games in their platform. That's 2 things the newer audiences really don't give a fuck about. If they want to earn them, they absolutely need to at least look like a better alternative than Steam. They do not achieve this by allowing Hatred or Grimoire, that only atracts drama to them.

I'm legit sad for saying this, but the world we live in has a majority of consumers that do not care to defend these kind of games (and it's not their job to do so) and the rest has a sizeable amount of really loud faggots that easily sway opinions because of how loud and respectable they seem to be. Again, because they also have good PR.

This is why bitchfights against the Left are always pointless, in the end you're not building an alternative or even a solid case against them. And considering the amount of "pirate everything!" here. you're not even looking like an interesting audience for any dev.

If anons supported more Devs that actually make good shit, if discussion was more focused on improvement instead of drama and tearing shit down, there'd be a point in anyone else taking us seriously.

In other words, if /v/ had better PR, /v/ would have more sway than Resettera and other online gay clubs over devs.

That THQNordic AMA was an oportunity for that, but considering how the focus was instead on how triggered the media was instead of supporting THQNordic, it really did nothing except maybe make them wish they never did the AMA in the first place.

>>16217064

>you can't see this only from your side or you'll never understand why things are the way they are, you'll just have your own conjecture on their reasoning. Much like this thread actually, projecting their own ideas on why this happened

Projecting rationality and good faith is the downfall of moderates everywhere and the reason that things have gotten this bad.

>GOG never even commented on

They aren't going to confirm it, but they sure as hell would deny it if untrue.

>>16217120

You want to know real PR facts sunshine? heres one.

You know what happens when a company blocks a game from sale on their site?

They lose promotion of their platform.

Every time a dev has flipped the finger at a platform the companies owners are sceeaming through tears.

Its simple logic if a game isnt on a platform that platform cannot use it as a advterising/promoting their platform (or they get sued)

And its accumulative. The more doesnt appear on a platform the more likely people are to not buy other games from the platform.

>>16217101

You're talking about how you'd like the world to be. That's cute, but irrelevant.

Companies want money to stay afloat and everything else comes afterwards. If they think they'll be screwing their bottom line in long term by releasing a game that gives them bad PR now, they won't release it.

And this may be framed to be all about ideology but in the end it's still the money. Even if they say it's ideology, it's just virtue signaling to get that good PR and that's it.

The companies that self-censor because of ideological reasons go bankrupt. The companies that self-censor because of the money stay in the market.

Talk all you want about "Gaming needs to go back to being underground" or "Soy slurping cal art drawing sjw faggots", all of this is meaningless, it says nothing and achieves nothing besides preaching to the choir.

Do you want gaming to be underground? Start supporting the devs that do their work underground. And I don't mean just buying their games, I mean starting threads about them and talking about it. Give it more attention than to the latest e-drama instead,

The "Soy slurping cal art drawing sjw faggots" are utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, let them do what they want and say what they want. Paying attention to them is playing their game, they are nothing but attention whores and making any topic they start even more controversial is just doing their work for them.

They are bound to suffer the same fate of movie critics: once Devs realize they have no bearing or impact on the sales of a game, they'll stop caring about them.

Talking smack about something is easy as shit. So easy in fact that even sjws can do so.

Actually building something, getting a reputation and earning the trust of someone, that's what's hard.

That's why all these threads turn into is talking smack about some company or some dev. You're not interested in shaping the industry for the better, you're here for cheap entertainment watching the dumpster fire burn.

Build something good, stop burning up garbage.

>>16217170

I can tell you are a drooling idiot not actually reading anyones posts.

>>16215143

LET'S ROLL

>>16217021

>>16217049

>>16217057

you faggots cant even make a basic sauce search, he is a gayfurry, not brony

https://e621.net/post/show/1426101/

>>16217178

>ban this guy for his fantasy conspiracy writing

>they still have Arcanum on their store

Its just one big clown world.

>>16217128

>Projecting rationality and good faith

You mean assuming that Cleve is rational enough not to fake an email? And having good faith on him to believe it's true?

>they sure as hell would deny it if untrue

If it even registered on their radar.

It's a game that sold like 200 copies or so on Steam, only has 600-800 votes on a wishlist with a countless amount of crap that easily racks up 14.000 to 16.000 and the initial screencap wasn't even made on their forums.

Why would you think this game is big enough to even warrant a large company like that even looking at it?

>>16217138

That's all true but it has nothing to do with what I wrote. If a company thinks a bad reputation will hurt their bottom line, they'll drop the product. The assumption might be wrong (and in this case it is) but it matters not, only if they believe in it.

And what you need in these situations isn't a big protest about it that does nothing but show a bunch of angry people. What you need is an alternative platform selling the game so GOG sees how much money they lost because of what their PR department told them. But guess what? That's what the Steam sales over more than an year confirmed for them.

>>16217156

Also all true but you can keep your condescending tone if you're just gonna make a twat of yourself.

Of course they can't use those games to promote that platform, but the entire point is that they didn't wanted to be promoted by those games in the first place. It's not a problem for them at all!

GOG doesn't sell Hatred because it doesn't want to be seen as the platform that allows Hatred on it, for instance. Which, considering how Steam eventually allowed it, might have been a stunt precisely to promote how they DON'T sell that game.

Now can we post something more than self-evident obvious truths here?

>>16217207

Women are always the kind of strawmanning retards that bitch about tone.

>>16217170

>And this may be framed to be all about ideology but in the end it's still the money. Even if they say it's ideology, it's just virtue signaling to get that good PR and that's it.

True and false, ideology is important to certain people and not to others, money is a sole motivator only for people with no goals or principles, for others it is the grease to accomplishment. The controllers of culture value the social impact far more than the profit, so they create an environment where doing business is guided by saying the correct things and praising the right people. If you think these people get their standards from the aether and we have a vocal minority, rather than a concerted push for this over decades, you are historically naive and projecting your own nihilistic, this is the way it is, worldview.

>>16217204

>You mean assuming that Cleve is rational enough not to fake an email? And having good faith on him to believe it's true?

I believe he's rational enough to avoid libelous claims, yes. I can also see corroborating incidences such as Hatred and Twitter apologies.

>Why would you think this game is big enough to even warrant a large company like that even looking at it?

Then why do they care about PR from it? Going in circles here.

>>16217174

I'm sorry I care more about actually solving shit instead of virtue signaling to my tribe or talking smack about the targets. Can't help it, I'm just an extreme centrist that buys games from the devs he likes, starts threads about them and gets to see sequels to said games because of the support he gave them, instead of raising hell and drama about someone I wouldn't give half a penny to begin with for cheap internet drama, the true patrician entertainment.

>>16217188

>someone claiming his cospiracy writing is real is the same as a fantasy story in a videogame.

>>16217207

I was mocking you being condescending when you've said nothing but incredibly basic shit.

"The downside to not selling a videogame on a platform is that you can't say you're selling that videogame on your platform!"

No shit, sherlock! Haven't we been there with Deep Silver and Metro Exodus in a few other threads? Do you actually believe that just because you thumped your hands over a keyboard, something actually worth reading was written here?

Go start a thread about Rape Day and tell me how Steam is incredibly foolish for taking that that game out, instead of keeping it and dealing with the backlash while Epic and GOG are around.

>>16217222

>ideology is important to certain people and not to others

The ones that don't make money. The ones that bankrupt companies. Not the ones that keep them afloat.

>If you think these people get their standards from the aether and we have a vocal minority

They get their standards from what sells and what the "respected" critics tell them the audiences want, not the aether. And you do have a very vocal minority with communities like Neogaf and Resettera that aren't actually THAT big but still manage to have an influence over devs.

>rather than a concerted push for this over decades

Right. It's da joos. How could I forget. It's not you projecting your own "this is the way it is" worldview, it's just the way it is.

>I believe he's rational enough to avoid libelous claims

After the many problems the guy has gotten into by suing multiple people for defamation all the fucking time?

>I can also see corroborating incidences

You mean things that have nothing to do with this, especially when in all those instances GOG actually voiced their opinion? God, you're gullibe.

>Then why do they care about PR from it? Going in circles here.

The two possibilities run perfectly parallel to each other. The game may be either too small for them to notice or to warrant the PR hit.

Either of these being true is enough to explain why you don't see any comment from them and they don't contradict each other either.

Sucks how these threads always end up with shills and people arguing with them instead of people just discussing the topic.

>>16215148

>>16215965

Didn't he survive those LA riots ages ago?

>>16217216

Eat the tard you fool.

>>16217248

>da joos

Cool, outed ya as arguing in bad faith, that's all I wanted. Peace.

>>16217300

>>da joos

I'm seeing this exact response more and more lately.

>>16217300

Its an obvious leftpol roastie. Doing some shill work.

>>16217248

It's not always da joos, there's also jews.

>>16217283

Yeah, he wrote about it somewhere.

>>16215143

rolling to revive a shit thread

When I first saw this I thought well that is the end of GoG. Then I remembered though that Cleve actually has done a lot bullshit going after user reviews and threatening lawsuits. So now I am not so sure but I still am pretty hesitant to buy anything from GoG. Since everytime something political comes up it is always going one way.

>>16215143

You cannot stop the roll Mark-kun.

>>16217278

But what if the topic is a bogus one? What if GOG doesn't even have a stance in this and the entire thing is just an elaborate drama?

Is it really unreasonable to ask for more than a transcript as evidence before starting to talk about something? Because if that's the case, someone bring on the Piss Dossiers, please.

>>16217297

This. Avoid the brain if you don't want to get Kuro but otherwize you can have food for at the very least a week. And you can use the bones to craft simple (but highly degradable) tools.

>>16217300

It's almost like someone uses that term specifically because it upsets faggots like you.

Especially because you'll then ignore everything else posted because of that and then have the gall to claim I'm the one arguing in bad faith.

Don't forget to vote Trump 2020! /pol/ is always right!

>>16217302

It's because of the internal schism in /pol/. Some people are taking the oportunity to mock the fuck out of them for having elected a zogbot for president of the USA. Somehow, /leftypol/ is trying to mock them as well, but it's not going very well as expected.

>>16215143

Lets go

Get more porn in this bitch

>>16217300

>>16217332

>reeing at /pol/ out of no where for no reason

wew lads

>>16215143

rollerion

>>16217332

>Is it really unreasonable to ask for more than a transcript as evidence

On here? Yes. Soon as dumb bullshit happens that the retards here don't like, they drop all semblance of being a human being with logic and start screeching. If you don't conform to that, you're an evil SJW.

>>16215241

>autistic

>neanderthal

I-is he Heimdall? The whitest of white Gods?

>>16217332

>Is it really unreasonable to ask for more than a transcript as evidence before starting to talk about something?

Sure, you don't have to believe without sufficient proof. However there is a big difference between skepticism and spewing FUD in an attempt to kill a thread discussing the issue. Which is what has been happening here.

>>16215143

rolling

>>16217332

You are just arguing against and with a series of prebuilt fantasies. Throwing blind darts to paint me with a camp is too boring to engage with.

>>16217369

learn to read

>>16215348

GoG basically publishes niche games, and some more modern games. But it's basically niche. The clue might even be in the description "good old games"

Their reasoning of "too niche" is like EA not publishing something for being too mainstream.

This Cleve guys melonhead story here>>16217178

is just the plot of Conan exiles.

If people are saying that has been delisted by google that is outrageous.

>>16217566

Loads of indie retro games over the last few years are not appearing in their store.

So whats going on that devs who are basically going for the shareware model are not getting on gog?

>>16217582

I would guess that GoG doesn't want the low quality junk that Steam is known for.

>>16217588

Thats the thing. It may well be low quality junk but some of this retro stuff (doom, quake homages etc) are incredibly popular retro fans.

Simce they are just old games knock offs and GoG is supposed to cater to that.

So its very mysterious to me.

As mysterious as ancient Lemuria and big headed ayy lmao civilisations.

>>16217588

They have gone home and that yiik game

>>16217604

>>16217610

>>16217588

GoG is a Polish company right?

>>16217621

It is. From the Witcher people.

>>16215143

rollinger

>>16217610

Did they have YIIK after the SJWs went after it or before?

>>16217665

Pretty sure it came out on release day.

>>16215404

Yes and yes.

>>16217178

Found it: https://www.morebacks.fr/topic/2886-cleveland-mark-blakemore-le-dernier-%C3%BCbermensch/

>>16217621

Yes Polish, so they don't care about low quality junk. I get your comment. But they're Polish, so they also don't care about political correctness. We can't read too much into them being Polish having any bearing on this.

>>16217604

Yup that was my original point. Gog is basically supposed to publish niche games. "too niche" makes no sense. So this is either political or a quality control thing.

>>16215742

>very criptic

I was going to mention he released the manual recently but his site appears to be getting shit on right now.

>>16216799

>It's not a political issue, it's a PR one

That stance can justify everything.

<We no longer sell games made by teams with over 50% white males, there's just too many people complaining about the lack of diversity

If it's a PR issue that stems from a political issue and you're on the other side, the correct way to treat it isn't to say "Oh, companies be companies". You have to screech harder than your opponent so the PR for their decision becomes worse and they reverse it.

>>16217332

Why are you defending a clearly SJW company and its SJW community? Did you read the thread on their forums? It was full of "good riddance, toxic dev" posts.

>>16218636

Reading that shit makes me worried because that will be the future in the UK and at least murricans had guns to protect themselves.

>>16215143

Roll

Here you go, melonheads.

http://goldeneragames.com/Manual_GrimoireRPG_V2/

>>16215143

Roll

>>16217021

>>16217057

Daft Patriot?