83ebd9 No.16214760
Never thought I'd see the day.
https://www.gog.com/
2a711e No.16214766
>>16214760
>GoG
>doesn't know about the purge
I wonder who could be behind this post
2229ea No.16214769
>>16214760
Thanks for letting us know fellow /v/ user. Gog sure is a great alternative to steam. I use it for all of my online video game purchases, and it's so convenient! I hope other fellow anons will see the same after this post.
9e60ef No.16214771
About fucking time Diablo got a drm free release
No that faggot jumpdrive from the D3 battlechest doesn't count
283429 No.16214776
13fdab No.16214777
>>16214760
>GOG
>He hasn't heard
e53feb No.16214783
I'm genuinely a retard and don't know what's up with GOG. What did they do?
9e60ef No.16214786
>>16214783
They had to drop a ton of people because they don't have enough money
83ebd9 No.16214791
>>16214766
>>16214777
Purge?
>>16214786
What does them being retards financially have to do with anything?
d77d35 No.16214796
>>16214786
What's the problem with that? If they can't afford more workers, they have to fire a couple of them. It's not like they did it because of politics, unless I'm mistaken in which case I would like some proof to see if I should blacklist the company or not
86d9a1 No.16214802
>>16214783
Gwent being a waste of time and them being retarded Poles who have retarded priorities.
296c3e No.16214808
>>16214786
How's that my problem?
3e5b51 No.16214809
>>16214791
Maybe if they just started selling the games steam is banning they would not be going bankrupt, But that's to hard for those virtue signaling wankers.
84fa30 No.16214816
>>16214760
And? GOG is shit.
83ebd9 No.16214817
>>16214809
They're selling some of the games that Steam banned though, just not all of them, which is normal since they choose to have a smaller, high quality selection, period as that's their business model
9e60ef No.16214819
>>16214808
Worst case scenario?
They bleed out completely and anything you didn't back up
>Not having backups of DRM free installers
Would be lost
a2e906 No.16214828
>GOG is hated over night
What did I miss?
84fa30 No.16214834
>>16214828
Months of them cucking to SJWs? Dunno how you missed it.
83ebd9 No.16214838
>>16214826
Yes, some shit games have made it through but compared with Steam's overwhelming, unending torrent of shit that gets added constantly its not even remotely comparable.
Pointing to one or even a few examples and calling the whole library shit for it is shitpost-tier
13fdab No.16214841
>>16214828
Look at
>>16179298
f8effa No.16214842
ok
hey, what about those other old blizzard games that a few people on the planet haven't already played, like lost vikings and shit
are they going to put those up too mr. gog employee?
13fdab No.16214848
>>16214842
OP isn't a GOG employee.
I checked.
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83ebd9 No.16214849
>>16214839
Well shit.
Alright, I'll delete the thread, political censorship is pure cancer and that guy seems to be truthful
003a47 No.16214851
>>16214839
>actually believing anything Cleve claims
13fdab No.16214853
>>16214849
No need, we can discuss it here if needed. Damn shame about GOG though.
c94fbb No.16214854
>>16214760
So, here is important question: did they use available on the Internet workarounds to make it playable on modern systems or retards at Blizzard decided to put some efforts into it? It's hard to believe that they used source code to make it playable on new systems, but still would be nice to know for sure if it has any value. Also, is it vanilla or there is Hellfire addon too?
13fdab No.16214856
>>16214851
Does he have a history?
f47aca No.16214857
GoG exists to make easy installers for old games. No point in caring about their politics because their products are meant to be pirated anyway.
d9a6d1 No.16214859
Who does the money go to? I thought Blizzard couldn't sell the original Diablo, which is why it's not on their Blizzdrone Store? Or am I mistaken?
a2e906 No.16214860
>>16214846
>competition
>giving money to a girrillion dolla market-place vs a much smaller one
I hope for your sake this is bait.
003a47 No.16214861
>>16214856
Cleve is a shitposter of legend
he made a bretty gud game but you should only believe around 5% of what he ever posts or says
790138 No.16214862
>>16214760
>>16214802
>>16214786
this, and the fact that buying Diablo 1 anywhere still means giving money to nublizzard.
003a47 No.16214866
>>16214859
Blizzard
they didn't sell Diablo 1 because they were too lazy to get it working on modern systems
7f8887 No.16214870
>>16214857
>GoG exists to make easy installers for old games
not sure if b8 or baka
3777b2 No.16214883
Why wouldn't they put up a good game instead of this skinner box trash?
>>16214839
cleve got owned like the fag he is
83ebd9 No.16214888
>>16214883
>Diablo 1
>skinner box trash
disgraceful
9e60ef No.16214893
>>16214888
Skinnerbox is a faggoty psych experiment anyway
3777b2 No.16214895
>>16214888
Waste of trips. Back you go.
c94fbb No.16214936
>>16214854
Okay, looks like there is no Hellfire version which is really weird, though maybe it's related to the fact that the addon was developed by Synergistic Software and published by Sierra. Still not clear what exactly was done, but I suspect they just took fan patches and called it a day, though it seems like they did include the original version.
8125b3 No.16214939
>>16214839
so what are the other digital platforms that i can use to buy Trails of the sky and Trails of Cold Steel?
8125b3 No.16214942
>>16214940
>gog
nigger, im asking for other alternatives.
2bd018 No.16214948
>>16214828
After years of cronyism, blackmail, dox, and other despicable inhuman practices. SJWs manages to replace an entire company with themselves starting from the HR.
84fa30 No.16214957
>>16214939
Don't buy localizations.
35f89c No.16214974
>>16214939
why would you ever support cucked game devs
just pirate
c94fbb No.16214988
>>16214925
What the fuck are you on, nigger, I can see your thread and I'm not even logged in.
6e34c5 No.16215007
Why would I buy D1 when I can get it for free nearly anywhere and there's a mod to make it run perfectly on modern systems?
5aa6c1 No.16215010
>Try to milk gamer cred by allowing games that competitors blacklist
<Continuously apologize to people who don't play games over it
>Be an alternative to Steam's log in to rent games model
<Pour money into Galaxy, their ripoff of Steam
>Call yourselves Good Old Games
<Release more and more indie trash that is neither good, nor old
<Turn down Grimoire, which is very good and lovingly made in homage to good old games
Get Woke go Broke. GoG was a great idea that the original creators have allowed to be ruined. Whether intentionally or through inaction doesn't matter, they deserve to lose. Valve and Epic aren't any better, but they're at least having the decency not to pretend to be something they're not.
619857 No.16215013
>>16214760
Remember If GOG has the game GOGdownloads.com will have the game for free.
GOGdownloads come with bitcoin miners built in to the games. Which is exponentially better than having built in SJW shit.
c94fbb No.16215014
>>16214996
One thing surprises me is how no one pointed out the fact that they on GOG don't allow Japanese video games, especially ecchi ones. One fag who mentioned "violent" games don't realize that libtards aren't against it.
>>16215007
The only reason to care about GOG release would be if that version was based on source port. It's better than have shitty workaround version anyway and they don't even have Hellfire addon there because Blizzard is run by absolute retards anyway.
>>16215010
>Try to milk gamer cred by allowing games that competitors blacklist
Bullshit. Outside of Nintendo which is a big surprise, the rest are afraid of lewd shit, including GOG. They could use that as an advantage though and they will never do that.
941278 No.16215016
>>16215007
Because you want to support the awesome devs of course :^) even though none are left, they dont even get extra money if it sells anyway and the company is long gone.
b00a65 No.16215018
>>16214760
>>16214783
Stop shilling their store, they're compromised by leftists who censor other creators for their politics.
https://archive.is/XHJAo
c613cf No.16215020
>>16215010
>Get Woke go Broke
Like Apex Legends and its Mutt cast right
owh wait it was a huge success
b00a65 No.16215021
>>16214796
They did fire workers because of their politics. Stop shilling their store and pirate
84e121 No.16215022
I associate Diablo with SJW trash thanks to Overwatch blanket censorship policies. I'm not buying it no matter where it's released.
0542cc No.16215025
>>16215013
>choosing between miners or sjw shit
How about neither?
bbd38c No.16215026
>Battle.net® multiplayer requires you to configure the Router and Firewall Ports, details can be found here.
Pass
b00a65 No.16215027
>>16215020
It became successful because they didn't announce the cast's identity initially.
>Shill Battle Royale
>People play it and it becomes successful
>Announce that the cast is consisted of fags afterwards
000000 No.16215029
>>16214786
(((EA))) and (((ActiBlizzard))) also fired lots of people recently. And it's like tenfold of what GOG did.
Does this mean they are both dead, retard-kun?
>>16214839
AHAHAHAHA
clevie got owned nicely, why didnt he tell them his game is not only shit but he also stole it from studio he worked in (as a janitor)
c613cf No.16215031
>>16215027
>>16215027
You dont have to say that it has niggers if you can clearly see it has niggers are you retarded
>they didnt say it was niggers so it didnt fail
>if they said it has niggers it would fail
you're literally braindead
61f336 No.16215037
>>16214816
what was the post they removed?
Hitler standing on top of a mountain holding the noble German flag, the caption "You will win this, my sons" and posted on the 14th of august at 8 o'clock.
61f336 No.16215038
b00a65 No.16215042
>>16215031
It's not "woke" to add niggers in media, retard. They've been a thing since the 70s.
ec3c7e No.16215043
>>16215014
>Outside of Nintendo which is a big surprise, the rest are afraid of lewd shit
How the hell is Nintendo the only company in the market that doesn't get triggered over lewds on their console?
c613cf No.16215049
>>16215042
Your mind has been creampied in by their narrative for a long time so it isnt woke anymore?
ill see you in 10 years when you got used to tranny dick in your asshole retarded trashnigger
f8effa No.16215050
this is turning out like that one weird episode of star trek TNG, where the alien brain parasites infiltrate starfleet HQ and the only way picard is able to remove them is by straight up murdering everyone in the building
just replace starfleet with GOG and picard with any rpgcodex user
941278 No.16215053
>>16215043
Do you have memory problems?
c94fbb No.16215054
>>16215043
Give it a time, eventually they'll fix it. I bet they're already making some plans to fix this issue.
61f336 No.16215055
>>16215025
This.
Just torrent it.
61f336 No.16215063
>>16215042
No one wants to see nuggets in games. Games are almost exclusively made by European blooded men and Japanese. If a chicken nugget wants to self insert in his own game, he can make it himself. Token nuggets are not welcome and distract from the experience.
ec3c7e No.16215070
>>16215053
Nah, just some mandela effect-tier memories that's all.
>>16215054
>Implying
Wake me up when Nintendo is somehow a gaming monopoly like they were in the 80's again then we can talk.
acb665 No.16215072
>>16215050
That episode fucking ruled.
b21526 No.16215077
>>16215063
>No one wants to see nuggets in games.
I do.
61f336 No.16215082
cd7da0 No.16215090
>>16214834
Nobody should be buying games. Your "storefront" should be ThePirateBay and your credit card should be Vuze
8125b3 No.16215132
>>16214957
what is wrong with those localizations?
>>>/v/16214962
no (you) for you, anon.
d32ceb No.16215145
>>16215037
This was the tweet.
d32ceb No.16215152
>>16214786
They did drop a lot of people, but I'm not sure about your reasoning because they currently have 20 openings for new people on GOG.
>>16215021
The only guy they fired because of "outrage" was their twitter shit-poster who was just going against everybody.
b28393 No.16215155
>>16214760
Now that's bullshit, how many dicks did GOG suck to get to sell something that has been freeware for two decades.
c47fa3 No.16215159
>>16215152
Well, that is what I heard was the reason, if I was wrong, I was wrong
b28393 No.16215160
>>16215152
>but I'm not sure about your reasoning
They immediately fired a bunch of employees because of a single bad month. That's a red flag.
b308b7 No.16215216
>>16214760
For what purpose did they do this, it's not in some legal hellhole and barely attainable, they should have gotten something like Cryostasis or Freelancer instead.
c94fbb No.16215252
>>16215070
>Wake me up when Nintendo is somehow a gaming monopoly like they were in the 80's again then we can talk.
I guess you don't remember the cancer which is Nintendo of America.
0bf1a3 No.16215287
where's the fucking download link niggers
d32ceb No.16215294
>>16215216
>For what purpose did they do this
Because they thought that people would buy it?
>legal hellhole and barely attainable
You do realize that they are not above the law either, right?
They need the permission to sell stuff on store from the people who hold the rights, just like any other store out there.
3124b5 No.16215296
Now we just need someone to Re-upload it to Mega or any other site and we get Diablo 1 for free again
0bf1a3 No.16215300
>>16214771
putting a disc into drive is hardly a DRM
b308b7 No.16215332
>>16215294
>Because they thought that people would buy it?
<hurr stores sell things?
You know exactly what I meant, you can the game for free easily with the addon or if you suck dick give the "devs" the money for it through Blizzards store so anyone who wants it already has it.
>You do realize that they are not above the law either, right?
Are you dense? The point of Good old Games was to get games that reside in some form of limbo back to being sold + some adjustments to make them work on modern systems. I am sure the rights being all over the place isn't an outlandish thing for them to deal with.
113f8b No.16215368
Pirate it! So everyone could play it. Fuck GOG!
3807bb No.16215394
>gog is suddenly a bad platform cause politics
>still can get drm free installers for the games
>this has never changed once
>but sense they said fuck off to a no name vn fag i'm supposed to hate them now
dc2498 No.16215412
>>16215300
Copy protection is DRM you faggot
619857 No.16215417
>>16215394
They begged him for three years to put his game on their platform and when he relented and agreed to put the game there the SJWs said they didnt want it.
That shows the power structure has changed considerably over time.
000000 No.16215421
>>16215010
>lovingly made
>made
*stolen
6f7fcf No.16215428
>>16214839
reminder that cleve is legitimately insane and all we've seen so far to support his claims are more of his claims. if it's true then i'm onboard with the GOG hate but i want to see their rebuttal and/or more evidence first, because cleve really is a weird autist and i don't think fabricating claims like this is below him
d32ceb No.16215435
>>16215417
>They begged him for three years
According to him?
Why would they care that much?
003a47 No.16215474
>>16215417
>They begged him for three years to put his game on their platform
I highly doubt that
619857 No.16215484
>>16215474
I highly doubt that they didnt beg him.
Whose the skeptic now?
003a47 No.16215494
>>16215484
3 years ago if you claimed Grimoire was ever going to be released you'd be laughed out of whatever thread or forum you were in
I really don't think store fronts were lining up and begging Cleve to release his game
b00a65 No.16215497
>>16215394
>>16215435
You don't deserve my money anymore for political reasons if you prevent creators from making money over their politics. It's just that simple.
d32ceb No.16215501
>>16215497
>if you prevent creators from making money over their politics
Yeah, if.
You're just making stuff up in order to feel persecuted. You just want to feel like a self righteous victim for some reason.
619857 No.16215504
>>16215494
Sounds like they were the most enthusiastic about getting the game realeased.
cc1a87 No.16215507
>>16215332
> I am sure the rights being all over the place isn't an outlandish thing for them to deal with.
It was always clear where the rights to System Shock were, yet if only one party refuses or makes outlandish demands the whole deal is off the table. Even if you track down every copyright holder and lock them in a room it's no guarantee that you will get a deal. What is GOG supposed to do in such a case?
b00a65 No.16215516
>>16215501
I have no reason believe that it's not true, given that they gave a platform to niche titles beforehand along with helping ResetEra to dox their social media manager.
You don't deserve money for political reasons if you prevent others from making money over political reasons.
619857 No.16215523
>>16215507
>What is GOG supposed to do in such a case?
Just say that system shock is not coming to GOG because its too problematic and toxic.
8125b3 No.16215550
>>16214988
>look at that thread
>he is posting like in an imageboard
>on a fucking forum
dcb780 No.16215587
>>16215417
I have never heard of the game before and it sounds like shit. I could not care less about Grimoire, Gog is still the supreme digital distribution platform.
6b1def No.16215600
GUYS GUYS I FOUND A WAY TO GET DIABLO 1 FOR FREE WITHOUT GIVING THESE HACKS MONEY
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/diablo-3it
8125b3 No.16215655
>>16215600
there were like 2 or 3 threads talking and moding diablo games, anon.
6b1def No.16215685
>>16215655
that's the joke
3b09ad No.16215700
d32ceb No.16215723
>>16215332
>you can the game for free easily with the addon
You can get everything easily for free that's on GOG. Genius.
>hurr
Yeah, you are retarded.
>Are you dense?
Says the guy who thinks that those polish idiots can just force some publisher to sell stuff on their store.
How do you propose they do that? With magic or with violence?
Holy shit.
1495b2 No.16215876
>>16215550
And he's very bad at proving his point with actual facts which is why he put himself in shitty situation.
b308b7 No.16215948
>>16215723
>Says the guy who thinks that those polish idiots can just force some publisher to sell stuff on their store
Learn to read you nigger I never said that they can send some Polish death squad to copyright holders, only that it's probably not the first time they would have to negotiate with multiple parties holding certain rights and that unless one such party is extremely retarded as >>16215507 described they can probably negotiate a deal.
Is that such a hard concept to grasp?
6097ad No.16215967
>>16214834
>Months of them cucking to SJWs? Dunno how you missed it.
Have you not been around for the last 15 years of the internet anon? Silcon valley hyper liberals run EVERY gaming related and internet related company. I can't think of a single major internet platform that isn't run by them.
2a5532 No.16216053
does anyone have the GoG installer?
fd1de7 No.16216063
>>16216053
Check good old downloads.
;_;
2a5532 No.16216076
>>16216063
if my pay wasn't so shit I'd buy it and put it up on google docs.
someone has to do it.
d32ceb No.16216091
>>16216076
If you can't manage to find a place to download Diablo 1 then you're not going to enjoy the game anyways.
6e906f No.16216097
>>16214828
I don't hate GOG. I use it as I should, which is for pirating instead of buying abandonware and ancient shit like a sucker.
9e0184 No.16216101
>>16215394
To be fair, every time I check up on my GoG account the drm free installers are more and more hidden behind GoG galaxy
cd7da0 No.16216103
>>16216076
>Google Docs
Why would anyone use this datamining service?
d32ceb No.16216110
>>16216097
>abandonware
Don't misuse words like an idiot. If something is abandonware GOG can't sell it.
6e906f No.16216121
>>16216110
If it's from a defunct developer and the IP is owned by some hogging kike publisher, it's abandonware for all I care.
2a5532 No.16216134
>>16216091
fuck off nigger, I just want to play the game on a modern system.
f10fb0 No.16216221
>>16214760
Hi gog, when are you going to fire the faggots and pussies working for you? Then remove the walking sims and other politically correct non-games?
d32ceb No.16216253
>>16216221
They did just fire a bunch of people and people are already whining about them not allowing enough games on there.
f10fb0 No.16216304
>>16216253
Yeah, but who knows what kind of people they are firing.
003a47 No.16216499
>>16216253
they also opened up a bunch of positions at the same time
probably just following same trend rest of tech and vidya is by reducing HR/"social media specialists"
cee577 No.16216519
>>16215152
They had two Pr guys. A senior one who was SJW and the shitposter who was the junior. The junior was the one that was fired.
73684a No.16216562
2882c6 No.16216752
>10 dollars
does everyone realise Pozzard was giving away D1 D2 and LoD for free in the past?
84c77a No.16218328
Isnt this game for free on battle net? Its like they are selling a game to retards. GoG is just being pure retarded now. The only thing GoG is good for is making it easier to pirate shitty games.
84c77a No.16218390
>>16215026
>Configuring ports for 20+ year old game
Lol no.
8709a7 No.16218432
>>16216752
>but they gave away these games in the past
I heard my supermarket gave away Oreos at one point. Doesn't really help me though when I feel like having some. Maybe if I just wait instead on the off chance they go free again.
2882c6 No.16218442
>>16218432
this post right here is what brain damage looks like
84c77a No.16218443
>>16218432
Imagine the internet as your city. You have some stores that sell oreos, and you have some places in dim lit alleys that arent supposed to resell them and give them away for free and are already opened.
9f7db0 No.16218446
>>16214760
$10 for a 23 year old game that you can get for free, anywhere. Anyone that buys this game should be marked for destruction for the sake of the human genepool.
84c77a No.16218453
>>16218446
What if you bought it decades ago?
4f305d No.16218458
>>16218453
he means
THIS version
not the CD
2882c6 No.16218463
>>16218446
gog games are priced too high a lot of games should be at least under 5 being generous.
Some of the prices sit in the "ok you are offering me some game i never played/hd remake. I guess I can give you a couple of dollars"
Others are "no way fag i can get a new game for that"
84c77a No.16218468
>>16218463
I guess GOG and your mom have something in common:
They should both be at least under 5 bucks!
6e41e3 No.16218488
GOG used to offer soundtracks and manuals for free, not anymore.
GOG used to have one price for all regions, they then changed it to store credit to make up the difference, now they won't even be offering that.
Let's not forget how its users are treated like second class citizens anyways, being behind on patches, DLC or outright not having multiplayer.
So what benefits does GOG have aside from being DRM free? None.
I guess GOG does have exclusive games, but if I can give Epic shit for that then I can give GOG shit for it too.
7f8887 No.16218496
>>16218446
DOOD
there are those that will buy literally anything
c8d668 No.16218512
>>16218488
>GOG used to offer soundtracks and manuals for free, not anymore.
That's an outright lie. All the "goodies" are still free unless the devs ask money for the OST.
7d25df No.16218517
>>16218496
>>16218446
Hey, at least they give us an easy way to pirate some good games and sometimes they're even patched to run better on modern systems.
2882c6 No.16218521
>>16218468
>uses captain cuckold as his reaction
>>16218496
You get doom 1 & 2 with doom3 bfg anyway.
2882c6 No.16218542
>>16218488
DRM as a concept is retarded. So I like their service just for that. They also occassionaly give away free games and convert steam games to drm free versions.
It really depends if you value the drm free offering and dont like being treated like a criminal.
Though companies could do a lot more to sweeten the deal for buying games.
6e41e3 No.16218563
>>16218512
>All the "goodies" are still free unless the devs ask money for the OST.
<All the "goodies" are still free unless they aren't.
Duh. That's my point.
>>16218542
>DRM as a concept is retarded. So I like their service just for that.
I agree, but it's easy enough to get around it with SSE or downloading a crack (for the games that do have steamworks in the first place).
>They also occassionaly give away free games and convert steam games to drm free versions.
Even more of a reason to buy games on steam instead.
2882c6 No.16218572
>>16218563
Anon thats why i think its retarded. The fact it doesn't stop anyone but the consumer is still saddled with it.
Its like buying a car and being told you legally have to have a wheel lock on it and unlock it everytime you use it. While carjackers just unlock it once and never again.
Its arbitary nonsense and companies could do A LOT more to encourage people to buy their games.
>Even more of a reason to buy games on steam instead
>buy game on steam
>month or so later gog gives it away for free
Actually happens.
84c77a No.16218573
>>16218542
See the issue is that they dont HAVE to sweeten the deal. Back then it used to be that all you did was just get promised a good game, take it home from the store and have a fucking blast. The game being good was the great deal and everyone was fine with it. People paid for great entertainment.
Now most of the content is on on disk dlc, fucked up by drm because they over reacted to piracy (it does not make up the numbers they claim and piracy stems more from a product not meeting the needs of the consumer) also making people pay for more than the actual value of the game.
People dont believe that they get the value out of the game they play. Same with really any service, regardless if its in the entertainment industry or not. If they dont feel that the service or product was worth the proper value then its a terrible product or service in their eyes. Take it from someone who has to deal with stuff like this on a daily basis. Customers need to feel that the product is worth the money. They want to feel that they can justify spending it. Right now with this market you cant.
Do you ever go and buy a game and say "I hope this is worth the money"? Well chances are if you are saying that it means that either the company you are buying from or the market itself did a piss poor job of building value to the customer. Value can be easily obtained but there is a right and a wrong way to do it. How video games are trying to do it now is by building value via additional items. This could be anything from "Collectors Edition" items to in game equipment. Its completely wrong doing it like this. If you dont have the base product worth the original value all other add ons are not worth shit. Customers wont care about the bags or the cups or the in game armor if the base package is shit.
Take it from someone who has worked in sales/marketing and Customer Retention/Feedback. Not for video games, mind you but its all the same shit. All of it is the exact same god damn shit.
3fc8da No.16218584
>>16218463
Yeah i noticed this too
Its like, "hey, do you want to buy a game made over 20 years ago that poorly sold for $20?", and all i can think is no
Thing is, I could have sworn it was cheaper to buy shitty games only a few years ago, its like they uped their price as soon as they realized they could get away with it.
Now a lot of the games on their are only worth the cost when they're on special.
>>16218468
You're pretty funny fam and i think you're great even if most of the anons on this site think you're a raging retard
6e906f No.16218593
>>16218517
It's almost like you could get GOG releases for free.
6e41e3 No.16218596
>>16218572
Oh yeah I get that completely, but games on Steam end up being so much cheaper (especially now without the store credit) due to third-party sellers that the inconvenience of having SSE installed for when offline mode doesn't work (i.e. never) is negligible.
Granted not everyone is in that position.
Also never had the issue of gog giving away a game I already owned, but that's probably more due to my tastes than anything else, so I believe it happens.
84c77a No.16218599
>>16218584
The only way that I can even conceive people getting away with that is if a game still sells well over its original projected shelf life. Basically some of the only games ive seen do this is morrowind and oblivion. Thats because they have an immense modding community that puts the original devs to shame. I guess you can throw in fallout 3 due to it practically being the same thing but with guns. I just checked and these games are still 10-20 fucking dollars. Goes back to my previous post of value. Modding community inadvertedly added massive amounts of value to a game that should of been 5 dollars due to depreciating value.
Side note: thanks fam.
c8d668 No.16218606
>>16218563
Whether the extras (this only really applies to OSTs) are free or not is not up to GOG to decide. It's the developers decision to monetize the soundtrack. This however, is rarely the case, most ost are free. Shit, for most OSTs, especially old ones you don't even need to download them separately, you can just take them from the game folder.
I don't know if you're retarded or just thirsty for (You)s, but making shit up to get angry over is pathetic. There's plenty of happenings to get angry over.
84c77a No.16218610
>>16218606
Why even that? People will have that shit on jewtewb almost instantly. A program can easily have you rip them. Ill never understand people selling OSTs in this age. No one ever pays for music. I can listen to Steely Dan all I fucking want for free. Why would I pay money for something thats not even as good as something im listening to free already?
6e41e3 No.16218632
>>16218606
I don't understand which part is "making shit up" or "getting angry". Goodies used to be free and now you sometimes have to pay for them, this is just a statement of fact.
Also it's not only OSTs, even wallpapers and maps are deluxe edition only now. Compared to when I first bought Planescape: Torment and got all that plus avatars, a bunch of artworks and a novel, it's a big of a difference.
2882c6 No.16218647
Thing about some of these old games is they never had any protection on them not even cd keys.
People played diablo on battle net with copies.
Knew a guy that went and spent $100 on an original copy of a game just to get the cd key.
>looked up the game and found it never came with a cdkey.
c8d668 No.16218663
>>16218610
Videos on youtube aren't the same as .mp3 files on your device. Audio quality and being able to listen to offline still matter to some people.
>>16218632
>Goodies used to be free and now you sometimes have to pay for them, this is just a statement of fact
That's not what you said.
<GOG used to offer soundtracks and manuals for free, not anymore.
A bit of a difference. You can't make general statements like this because they imply that there are no exceptions. But this is irrelevant because GOG doesn't decide if an OST should be free or not. That's up to the dev and composer.
>Also it's not only OSTs, even wallpapers and maps are deluxe edition only now.
A source, if you will?
6e41e3 No.16218685
>>16218663
Okay yes, I meant "they were all free and now they aren't", forgetting a word does generalize and I apologize for that.
Also it's probably on a game by game basis but here's Banner Saga 3 and Battletech as examples.
3fc8da No.16218698
>>16218599
You might want to add warcraft 3 to the pile as well, although that could just be based on blizzard never changing their fucking prices.
The map modding community was the only thing that kept it alive after so many years, long enough for it to give birth to the ASSFAG genre.
Also I want to fuck that Chen cat
c8d668 No.16218710
>>16218685
Nah, it's cool anon. English sucks for casual talk.
>those images
That's fucking disgusting. Paying for off-game .pngs and a .pdf should be punished by public humiliation. This isn't even physical. Damn, that's rabbinic as fuck!
90ce87 No.16218714
>>16214760
>>16214766
>>16214786
>>16214791
>>16214839
>>16214828
>>16214834
>cleve is a well known mega autist shitpostmeister
>also known to make shitty ripoff 'games' whose data he physically stole from other companies
<gog is compromised fellow anons look how they rejected my superior game created from my mad dev skills :^)
Not very surprising anyone who is not around long enough in the internet is aware who he is much less how he runs around being a cancerous faggot everytime he opens his mouth.
84c77a No.16218766
>>16218663
Yea you are right about that. Though to be honest I doubt the average retard cant tell the difference between flac and mp3. But you are still right. There are some videos that have very good quality but i guess the compression and transfer of data will cause issues.
3fc8da No.16218777
>>16218714
But GOG is compromised, just look at their twitter
Just because a faggot can't stop opening his mouth doesn't mean GOG is without fault
3f68c9 No.16218789
>>16218777
It's still better than steam and I still can download the games I purchased and keep them.
But piracy is even better anyway.
48e4ca No.16218873
How is there still no MEGA/gDrive/whatever link? I spent all my money on the only known copy of Dragonqust V released in North America.
84fa30 No.16218895
>>16218572
>>month or so later gog gives it away for free
All their games are free though.
>>16218873
I'll download it and put it on mega just for you anon.
6564c7 No.16218907
Can't you download WC1 and 2 from the official Blizzard site for free?
90f5db No.16218908
>>16218873
I'm honestly upset that you would buy a cart for $500. Anon, I….
48e4ca No.16218918
>>16218895
>I'll download it and put it on mega just for you anon.
You're one of the good ones, Anon.
>>16218908
What part of "only known copy of Dragonqust V North America" did you not get? What would you have done?
90ce87 No.16218920
>>16218777
>But GOG is compromised, just look at their twitter Just because a faggot can't stop opening his mouth doesn't mean GOG is without fault
Not even compromised according to the game journos and I don't think GOG got infiltrated by sjweebs where things start going south, they're just bad at handling money and took off games that are not exactly games, that's all there is. They only rejected cleve's shitty game because it really is shit even if he secretly paid shitposters to say otherwise.
PR is also shit but necessary in sizable business companies especially in current year in the age of critique and intrigues.
6e41e3 No.16218930
>>16218873
Great investment, it'll be worth its weight in gold in a decade!
>>16218907
As far as I can tell, no, but it's possible they were removed so GOG can charge for them.
957063 No.16218938
>>16218918
I would have grabbed it just before paying, ran out the door, smashed it into pieces, and laughed all the way home. You fucking cunt.
bda838 No.16218950
>>16218517
>and sometimes they're even patched to run better on modern systems.
GOG doesnt do shit for old games, they just grab patches that already exist out there and apply it to the game, all the games on GOG were already easily pirateably for many years, you gonna pat them on the back for including DOS box with DOS games too? They sell pirated copies with community patches to goyim like you and you just eat that shit up like the good niggercattle you are.
341286 No.16218955
>>16214786
>They had to drop a ton of people because they don't have enough money
However, they selected them POLITICALLY. Even if the downsize was necessary.
bda838 No.16218957
>>16218918
>has the only copy os some game
No ones gonna buy it, but if they do its gonna be some other kike collector that will never let it see the light of day, give you $350 for it or maybe even destroy it. Have you atleast uploaded the ROM somewhere? Have you ever played the game? Got any other shit you want to share?
48e4ca No.16218975
>>16218957
Well, I'm thinking about picking this up on eBay. Not sure if the price is right or not, though.
341286 No.16218976
>>16218920
>Not even compromised
Their twitch certainly is.
f71990 No.16218981
>>16218920
>he secretly paid shitposters
Irony is the refuge of cowards.
bda838 No.16218982
>>16218975
DON'T DO IT
Only buy shit that doesnt look like its about to die.
84fa30 No.16218993
90ce87 No.16219016
>>16218976
>gog twitch
It's a platform for public representation nothing more so it's not technically an important part of the company itself. However, even something that is not really important like an 'official twitch account' is enough for these sjw scum to significantly affect the playing field from the propaganda psyop front which they infiltrated first since it's gog's method of reaching out to people, they almost got everyone to listen and believe that 'gog and their grandmas are compromised' when it's actually 'gog screw up the money supply had to lay off staff, sorry 'bout that lads.'.
>>16218981
He's been in the internet long enough to know at least how to make a small amount of money even if it's piss poor.
ac0be7 No.16219057
>>16218873
>the only known copy of Dragonqust V released in North America.
What and fuck? I thought this was never localized, is it even in English, what the fuck is it?
48e4ca No.16219066
7f8887 No.16219072
>>16218895
>>16218993
GoG version does not include Hellfire correct?
84fa30 No.16219078
>>16219072
I imagine it does. Check the store page or something.
7f8887 No.16219081
>>16219078
i did and it doesn't mention it
ac0be7 No.16219101
>>16219078
>I imagine it does
I thought Hellfire wasn't made by Blizzard?
84fa30 No.16219107
>>16219101
Oh, I dunno, maybe it doesn't then. I don't play this shit
289025 No.16219125
>>16219107
Be glad you have taste.
>>16219081
There's no Hellfire, just basic Windows 7 support and basic resolution and color fix, you'd be better off just using fan patches like Tchernobog since that actually fixes the resolution FOV.
609de3 No.16219142
>the guy in this thread being whaled by ebay scammers
Have you actually even checked to see if the Dragon Quest is a forgery? It seems especially suspicious that it was V that was sold to you.
49e3c9 No.16219157
>>16219072
>>16219078
>>16219101
Hellfire was made (or published) by Sierra. It reused a lot of unused assets from the original release.
289025 No.16219168
>>16219142
That's the joke.
6564c7 No.16219169
There are much better Diablo-like games than Diablo. Divine Divinity is an actual game instead of a giant Skinner box.
19fe82 No.16219178
>>16219169
>There are much better Diablo-like games than Diablo
Is it true that Titan Quest is one of such games?
289025 No.16219189
>>16219178
All I hear people say is that they like modded Diablo 2, I grew up playing PSOBB instead of Californian shit.
7f8887 No.16219201
>>16219178
>Divine Divinity
>Titan Quest
move stupid gweilo,u in way
34168d No.16219215
>>16219178
It certainly scratched that itch, titan quest has a terrible early game that lasts way too long though.
2fedf8 No.16219241
>>16219201
I never managed to find out what the name of this gook game was. Also, is it translated?
19fe82 No.16219242
>>16219189
>>16219215
I see. So, it's worth giving a try at least I guess. Though I'm rather curious because of Ancient Egypt.
>>16219201
Fuck off, insect. Next war yanks won't save your asses.
2fedf8 No.16219248
>>16219242
>it's worth giving a try at least I guess
It's a fun game that is haunted by absolutely retarded restrictions forced onto the developers from corporate. If someone has that text where one of the developers is talking about all the shit they had to suffer through I would be grateful.
c19dfe No.16219254
>>16219242
The egypt section is midgame, and it can take a bit to get there. I ended up liking their game after Titan Quest more.
6564c7 No.16219258
>>16219201
That looks neat, but I imagine it would get repetitive extremely fast.
283429 No.16219270
>>16219261
>>16219248
Man this sucks, I decided to try Titan Quest recently because I was looking for something new I'd never tried before and so far I love the game, but this is sad to hear
84fa30 No.16219272
>>16219261
Why are publishers so stupid?
51b0ec No.16219278
The non battle.net multiplayer works pretty good
The same GOG copy can be used to play LAN games with no issue
Hey, y'know how you could make shareware copies of diablo with the original disk? I wonder why this doesn't come with it.
283429 No.16219281
>>16219272
Cause they aren't the ones making the game, they're the jews who have to sell it and they'll do anything they can to the game to try and squeeze more shekels from the consumer buying it
51b0ec No.16219283
Also can confirm you can install hellfire onto it
84fa30 No.16219285
>>16219281
But would those changes really make it sell more?
0bf1a3 No.16219286
>>16219278
because if you want to install diablo spawn for someone using GOG installer you might as well install the whole game instead
7f8887 No.16219288
>>16219242
>>16219267
Can't even make economy not shit
Can't even keep woman in kitchen
Can't even keep kid quiet and in factory
Can't make good cartoon dub
Can't even make webm,makes mp4 instead
STUPID STUPID GWEILO
b28393 No.16219292
>>16219201
Abandonware has these chink knockoffs in russian for some reason.
51b0ec No.16219293
>>16219286
Hard to tell if it's intentional or not. I don't know if bnet multiplayer would work with two copies but I'm not interested in fucking around with that
283429 No.16219294
>>16219285
Doesn't matter, clearly they thought it would. They're exactly the same as marketers and advertising agencies, no such thing as morals or ethics or guidelines, basically it's just shekels shekels shekels
283429 No.16219300
>>16219288
Typical chink, steals everything from the western world then claims it as their own, including "their" games, it's all just carbon copies of things western countries made first except chinks do it 100000x worse despite stealing the technology
2fedf8 No.16219304
>>16219270
It's a fun game anyway. Give it and its spiritual sequel, Grim Dawn, a try.
283429 No.16219307
>>16219304
I still like Titan Quest so far, and funny enough Grim Dawn was what I was eyeing to try after
619857 No.16219316
>>16219307
Excuse me do you have any idea how toxic and problematic grimoir is?
7f8887 No.16219317
>>16219292
i'm pretty certain the copy i have in in englishit's been a while since i played though
289025 No.16219339
>>16219292
It's published by RunningWithScissors, it should be in English.
8d8d0a No.16219365
you can get all of gog's games free
freegogpcgames (dot) com
19fe82 No.16219390
>>16219261
And I thought that TQ was free from this faggotry.
>>16219278
>The non battle.net multiplayer works pretty good
Are you saying that they managed to implement multiplayer in their own version? Though I'm pretty sure fan patches had online mp too.
>>16219288
Is that why you left your shithole for Canada, slanteye? Your patriotism is really special kind.
Also you missed, but I don't blame you, it's easy to miss when you have slant eyes. ;^)
4da000 No.16219470
>>16219390
Yeah there's like, an IPconfig thing you run, you hit modem, and instead of a phone number you punch in the IP and port to connect to the host
19fe82 No.16219493
>>16219470
Is there any reason to play it anyway when fan patches seems to be way better? It doesn't seems like they even used source code to make those features and ability to run the game on modern systems.
531eb0 No.16219671
>>16219493
Look pal I'm just letting you know what works and how it does. Totally up to you if you wanna pirate and use community patches and tools
023d46 No.16220538
1f1988 No.16220688
>>16219365
Diablo isn't on there yet.
what's taking them so long?
7d25df No.16220706
248e8a No.16220726
>>16219288
>Zhang thinks I converted that video.
b28393 No.16220771
>>16220688
They only host torrents for very specific games, not sure what the criteria is. Seems kind of weird to even want Diablo from GOG since there is already a freeware Diablo, a Diablo available ready for modding from gamenight. Blizzard gave that shit away for free for christ sakes so you'll sooner find a better free version at the I or something then wasting your time with a torrent site. They don't even have hellfire so it's a waste of time.
You could even snag it off more credible abandonware sites if you are willing to take the time for troubleshooting required. Both Warcraft 1 and 2 as well, Starcraft and Broodwar for that matter, and Diablo 2.
575953 No.16220826
>>16220771
>Blizzard gave that shit away for free for christ sakes
then again some retards are waiting for the older C&C games to be remastered, never mind that they've been released for free by EA for years and work well to this day
didn't know Diablo 1 was released for free at some point though
8125b3 No.16221001
>>16218895
Hello, anonymous!
What is the name of that website you are using to get all those video games?
84fa30 No.16221044
>>16221001
Read the filename dummy.
8f0da2 No.16221062
>>16218789
>better than steam
Having games on floppy disk is also better than steam, not that it fucking matters any, online distribution was a mistake
0923a1 No.16221080
This thread and another proves to me 8ch has a serious retard infestation problem.
28de7d No.16221090
>>16218950
The gog version of Deadly Premonition actually works
Their version of Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight works without tweaking a million things for the FMVs too
73684a No.16221099
>>16219157
It's both. It's also the only time Blizzard outsourced a game.
a33f59 No.16223252
>>16221044
>responding to someone who clearly doesn't belong here when they're asking for a source that's clearly visible in the filename
15accb No.16224521
Why the fuck does it want a cd-rom? So GOG are not even releasing DRM free games any more?
74ea0d No.16224572
>>16218873
>anon spent 500 burger tokens on a repro
cf8f53 No.16225196
>>16219057
If I had to guess, a ROM patched with a fan translation put into a reproduction cartridge. The joke is that it's obviously fake. For fuck's sake, the series was called Dragon Warrior in NA until VIII.
a81b01 No.16225301
So you niggers are just mad because people with disposable income can now get something that you poors had to scrounge for just to get working.
I know why you all pirate shit, because you are all poor niggers that can't afford shit. You blame jews and niggers for the world's problem when you guys are the most niggidty niggers to ever nigger.
846daf No.16225303
>>16221090
>Deadly Premonition
Is it actually a lot more stable? I downloaded it but I was wary of it.
48e4ca No.16226827
>>16219142
Are you actually so fucking stupid, like several other posters here, to not realize I was joking when I posted that? Fuck's sake, I took that DQV bootleg image of off the Gamechaser's Twitter feed a couple of years ago. They apparently found that sitting in a display case at a retro shop, presumably in Texas as that's where they're from.
7288bc No.16226894
>>16220726
>Don't enter the water straight to minimize impact surface, fall on his back on purpose
Retarded but it must have hurt a lot.
b28393 No.16227209
>>16219671
>if you wanna pirate
So using a shareware copy distributed by Blizzard is piracy now.
fe6e81 No.16233051
Yeah I think they are back.
fe6e81 No.16233060
>>16221062
Why? Floppy can be DRM too.
dce155 No.16233101
Does that Diablo has been freed from Battle.net? Is there a chance we'll ever see Starcraft?
c2115a No.16237360
>the retards ITT that don't understand how to patch a game
I got Diablo and Hellfire years ago and it took me maybe 10 minutes to get them running perfectly. Stop being stupid.
1a7f5b No.16237688
>>16216519
The fuck. And here I was thinking about being a good goy and supporting THQ by buying spellforce 3 from GOG. Anyone got a source for these news?
113f8b No.16237729
Is this GOG version already available to pirate?
4aa96b No.16237733
>Warcraft 1, 2, and Diablo are getting sold on third party stores now
Holy shit, Blizzard really are sinking aren't they?
84fa30 No.16237759
>>16237729
It's right here you double nigger. >>16218993
de19da No.16238311
>>16233101
no. they recently released starcraft remastered on battle.net. they're holding onto it.
6e906f No.16238316
>>16238311
Best version of Starcraft is the original updated version, still from BNet unfortunately. It has the option to disable filters and bask in the sharp pre-rendered beauty.
0e4e6c No.16239087
>>16214760
I pirated the installer, I do not support this rent seeking behavior on top of their already rent seeking model of charging for a download. You can already pirate WC2 with dos box and it works fine, no reason to go through GoG.
You could already get it for $0 from piracy, GOG takes old games then starts charging for them.
Also
>$10
For a fucking download license. Standard price PC games before Steam were better than today's collector's editions. even 1 cent is way too much for a download.
GOG is trying to get the rights to charge for No One Lives Forever even though you can already get a patched version for free from nolfrevival.tk. If they do the rights to charge for it I bet they will just use that patched version but the difference is they will charge for it.
Paid digital distribution shouldn't work because sane people aren't willing to pay for a download license, especially when doing so hurts gaming, but luckily for the industry there are plenty of corporate cum guzzling drones so it doesn't matter.
>>16215394
Warcraft 3 has DRM yet after I installed the game after getting through the offline cd key DRM I have been able to copy and paste it without ever having to go through that DRM again, that doesn't mean it is DRM free. I didn't need to make an account or have official server authorization at any point unlike GOG, yet GOG is somehow DRM free. Obviously if you want to play online then I assume you would need to redeem the code to play on official servers, but that code would still work when installing the game and the code being redeemed wouldn't prevent anyone from playing offline from that physical copy, my point about offline CD keys being less DRM than GOG still stands.
GOG, just like Steam is cancerous garbage that should have been boycotted the moment it was launched.
The only good thing to come out of GOG is that it is easy to pirate games on there.
>>16218542
If you think DRM is retarded then why do you give money to GOG?
>service
Paid digital distribution is neither a good or service.
>>16218573
They have made the deal worse
> fucked up by drm because they over reacted to piracy
All they had to do was give us DRM free physical copies, if all PC games were always DRM free physical copies then Valve would have been boycotted into bankruptcy the moment they launched Steam and by extension GOG would have never even have been attempted. It is more profitable to charge for a download though.
Valve used literal brainwashing tactics to get people to accept paying for a download license. Standard priced PC games before Steam were better than today's collector's edition. Arcanum manual is like 100 pages, getting just that manual printed probably cost more than getting an entire standard blu-ray PS4 physical copy pressed. Now they charge for a download, even the """""sale""""" prices don't correspond with the fact you don't get anything in return for your money anymore.
Someone asked the Cyberpunk 2077 twitter if it was going to get a collector's edition and they responded by saying they would if they thought it would provide "added value", that is subtle brainwashing, a standard DRM free physical copy is itself added value, far more than any scum digital distribution platform, yet by implying it isn't they trick people into going even further down the paid digital distribution hole, and if they admitted that a DRM free physical release is itself added value then some digital drones might open their eyes a little bit
736f63 No.16240965
GOG is the best, piracy is for welfare schizo bums
kys
c2cccd No.16241023
>>16239087
>muh physical
If you want a piece of plastic in a box so bad get a blank disk and burn it.
Digital distribution is cheaper, easier, faster and more convenient. The problem comes from DRM and jews inflating prices. Something that they can easily do with physical as well.
t.never paid for anything digital in my life
003a47 No.16241066
>>16241023
>Something that they can easily do with physical as well.
people are also forgetting how awful DRM was physical as well, way worse than anything in the digital era
c8ef4e No.16241080
>>16239087
Anon you're extremely short sighted
>You could already get it for $0 from piracy, GOG takes old games then starts charging for them.
What ends up occurring from re-releases of older titles is a larger amount of people start to play the game that normally wouldn't because of the inconvenience of having to pirate an installer for a game they might not care about to begin with.
This has direct long term benefits. Like I highly doubt the System Shock remake or the System Shock 3 sequel project would have been greenlit if not for System Shock 2's digital release outselling the retail release. (people forget System Shock 2 was a commercial failure when it released back in the day). This also leads to an influx of fan projects solely because new fans start enjoying older titles. It also leads to more people playing an older game's multiplayer than they normally would since they don't have to dl an illicit exe from a random website.
>GOG is trying to get the rights to charge for No One Lives Forever even though you can already get a patched version for free from nolfrevival.tk. If they do the rights to charge for it I bet they will just use that patched version but the difference is they will charge for it.
Both pirate NOLF versions are imperfect for one
>no source code
Night Dive stated they had it. The engine level source code has never been released, only game logic. GOG/Night Dive re-releasing the game can directly lead to an engine level source code release. Which they'd have zero incentive to do otherwise. The lack of source code has direct consequences on the game like how glitchy the widescreen patches are for both games (NOLF 2's UI isn't even sized properly in widescreen. NOLF 1's multiplayer is disabled if you run it).
Also the main reason NolfRevival started in the first place was due to the person running it hating how it isn't available for sale. He said he would take it down if it was available for digital distribution.
>Paid digital distribution shouldn't work because sane people aren't willing to pay for a download license, especially when doing so hurts gaming
How does it "hurt" gaming. Gaming is far more profitable than it was back in the early 2000s. There are more games releasing every year than at any other point in history.
>GOG, just like Steam is cancerous garbage that should have been boycotted the moment it was launched.
I think you have a bizarre opinion that boycotts seem to work. Digital distribution was always going to happen regardless of what your opinion on it is.
>The only good thing to come out of GOG is that it is easy to pirate games on there.
So you directly benefit from GOG but you'd still prefer to see it die despite this. Even if it died all that would happen is it'd be replaced by another service. We're never going back to retail PC gaming taking off. You also seemingly don't seem to mind digital when you get it for free.
>If you think DRM is retarded then why do you give money to GOG?
GOG doesn't force DRM on you, you can just download an exe
>Valve used literal brainwashing tactics to get people to accept paying for a download license.
>literal
Digital distribution had benefits that far outstripped retail. A really good example is as games got larger they had to consume more disks. Pic related is GTA5's retail release for PC (yes it had one). This also isn't a trend unique to gaming it occurs with all software. Photoshop used to come on physical CDs. Now you have to download it. It led to most computers not even having disk drives. It's why when you buy a copy of Windows at retail more often than not it comes on a USB. Nobody buys blue ray drives for PCs so games don't come on them. (do you own one anon? I would be surprised)
There were also genuine bullshit elements to retail like when retailers would demand incentives from gamedevs to stock particular games. A really good example is when Gamestop would demand gamestop exclusive dlc. I remember Fallout New Vegas had this. It all vanished when Digital started to take off.
>Arcanum manual is like 100 pages
Arcanum was made during the era of Big Box PC games. Big Box PC games stopped being a thing before retail fully died. The only reason they existed in the first place was to take up more space on a shelf. But as consumer tastes shifted during the early 2000s big box PC games died off and people would buy PC games at the same stores as they would console games. Developers/Publishers didn't mind this because big box PC games costed a lot more to produce.
Also Arcanum was a crpg. Very few RPGs even have enough content to warrant a 100 page manual. It was made by like 20 guys with 1 guy creating all of the lore. Nowadays all of this would just be put on a website. There's no reason to print a manual. You're pining for an era of vidya far more out of nostalgia than actual necessity or convenience.
c8ef4e No.16241081
>>16241066
>people are also forgetting how awful DRM was physical as well, way worse than anything in the digital era
This
Even if retail kept being a thing DRM would always continue. It's something almost every big company did and continued to do even after Steam was a thing. (See GFWL preventing you from saving your game if you weren't connected to the internet).
b28393 No.16241090
>>16241066
>people are also forgetting how awful DRM was physical as well,
Blizzard's CD keys was so easy to break that it's irrelevant to bring up DRM methods which were already falling out of favor by the time their first game was released. Here is what you do, just copy a legitimate CD key down and it will work with any copy whether that's directly from a retail disc or burned from a retail disc. Online play might by trickier but that's because of different standards by the nuBattle.net since the old one would recognize your CD key regardless of what type of game copy you used.
0e4e6c No.16241146
>>16237688
>supporting THQ
Why? They are a company, not a charity, and should be treated as such. Also fuck THQ for spending a bunch of money on buying up IPs but refusing to give their games proper releases on PC. I thought I saw a physical copy in a store of one of their games but it ended up being a Steam code in a box, I would have paid for it if it was an actual physical copy.
c2cccd No.16241161
>>16241090
And who says that they wouldnt have developed better drm tech for physical over time?
aae22c No.16241284
>>16218714
>make shitty ripoff 'games' whose data he physically stole from other companies
Hello Dr.Cat.
cc1a87 No.16241292
>>16239087
>Warcraft 3 has DRM yet after I installed the game after getting through the offline cd key DRM I have been able to copy and paste it without ever having to go through that DRM again, that doesn't mean it is DRM free. I didn't need to make an account or have official server authorization at any point unlike GOG, yet GOG is somehow DRM free. Obviously if you want to play online then I assume you would need to redeem the code to play on official servers, but that code would still work when installing the game and the code being redeemed wouldn't prevent anyone from playing offline from that physical copy, my point about offline CD keys being less DRM than GOG still stands.
Bullshit. DRM is when the developer intentionally puts up hurdles for you to run the software. You need an account to buy a game on GOG and you need and internet connection to download the installer, but that is a technical necessity due to logistics. No different from having to drive to the store and pick up the disc.
But once you have the installer there are no additional hurdles. The installer does not check your operating system, it does not need to verify your account, it does not install any rootkits. That is what makes it DRM-free. A Warcraft III physical release needs you to type in your CD key on each install and checks for the disc every time you want to play, even if you did a full install (they patched the CD check out later thankfully).
GOG installers are still proprietary software, which is bad, but at least they are DRM-free proprietary software.
Name one major physical PC release from the last three decades that was truly DRM-free. I cannot think of a single one.
>>16241066
The only good (less bad) thing about old physical DRM was that it depended on your system rather than some external server that was going to get shut down eventually.
c8ef4e No.16241298
>>16241292
>The only good (less bad) thing about old physical DRM was that it depended on your system rather than some external server that was going to get shut down eventually.
This still would happen. See MMORPGs
619857 No.16241300
Unless GoG does an AMA on here where they reject cultural marxism and fully endorse Hitler I will not be buying any of their crapware.
c8ef4e No.16241323
>>16241300
>unless GOG agrees with my very specific niche political opinions I won't purchase their products
74b4d1 No.16241331
Feels bad to know that the entertainment industry has successfully muddied the waters so much that even people who are typically a bit more knowledgeable and aware think that all copy protection is DRM.
The ironic doublespeak nature of the name "Digital Rights Management" versus what it actually does was just the icing on the cake. The real victory was getting people to put both SecuROM and a locally verified CD key in the same category right next to each other.
aae22c No.16241355
>>16241331
How are CD-Keys not DRM? You can't install the software if you don't input a CD-Key.
619857 No.16241356
>>16241323
My views are pretty mainstream compared to GoGs extreme SJW cultural marxism,
c8ef4e No.16241366
>>16241356
>GOG apologizes for a comment on twitter because they don't want bad press associated with their brand
>extreme sjw cultural marxism
These companies don't want to be associated with anything political they just want to sell vidya. Alienating half of your consumer base doesn't make you popular.
c2cccd No.16241368
>>16241300
whats really sad/fuh is that his supposed to be this really rude character because ebin scientific nihilism(i've never heard of an actual scientist who is a nihilist) but he could never actually go into "hate facts" to actually be rude because obvious reasons.
d91a27 No.16241432
>>16241368
Scientific nihilism is more of a 2 year bachelors' in dickology thing.
90877d No.16241465
>>16241366
>advertise game using topical twitter
>apologize to people who don't play video games because they got offended
<Alienating half of your consumer base doesn't make you popular.
You're right, reddit. You should alienate your entire consumer base instead.
On a completely unrelated note: Remember when Sonic twitter guy made fun of trannies? Remember the playasia boycott? I remember playasia mocking the boycotters because they got increased followers after the boycott. Go figure.
b5742f No.16241474
>>16241368
The funny thing is that they hint that he does get into hate facts.
f71990 No.16241480
>>16241366
The faith people have in greed for wealth while ignoring greed for power or social status is amusing.
aae22c No.16241569
>>16241368
>>16241474
This scene is brilliant. Even with all the flak the show gets they still named the (((jew))), and not just with the Israel bit, but the parallels being drawn between kikes and (((shapeshifter))). The villain blended in, like kikes do, and the only option the super heroes had was to kill everyone.
850b83 No.16241613
>>16241465
>generic corporate kneejerk apologies = endorsing extreme marxist ideology
If they'd removed games like KC:D for their devs' comments I'd agree but you're blowing it completely out of proportion.
>>16241480
Name me a game company that got more of any of those things from going full Marxist.
90877d No.16241647
>>16241613
>but you're blowing it completely out of proportion.
Yeah, even though you're the one who said that they apologized so they wouldn't alienate half their own consumer base. Yeah, sure apologizing to "half their own consumer base" who don't actually buy video game never goes sour. This has never happened over and over and over again.
Please, remind me how many sales were lost due to the Sega making fun of trannies. Tell me how poorly persona 5 did after games journalist shat on it. Tell me how fast did that fitness magazine fail after they ignored the fat fucks who whined about their ads.
f737c2 No.16241665
>>16241569
>>16241474
wtf I love rick and morty now.
dce155 No.16241853
>>16241292
>Name one major physical PC release from the last three decades that was truly DRM-free.
How "major" are we talking here?
dce155 No.16241877
>>16241355
DRM - ancillary background process whose purpose is to police the user's legitimate use of software.
Copy protection - all other forms of copy protection
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
aae22c No.16241949
>>16241877
DRM is to prevent illegal copies.
cc1a87 No.16242541
>>16241853
> How "major" are we talking here?
More then just some local retail chain or only a limited print. I should also have added that it must not be gimped in other ways, like how The Witcher 3 was (((technically))) DRM-free, but for all the patches you needed to register the game on GOG.
b28393 No.16243149
>>16241161
Anyone who has bothered to look into the history of copy protection, the physical stuff has a hard limit of how far you can go with it. This is why it's now solely software being reliant on always online bullshit or trojan bullshit that runs in the background.
c8ef4e No.16245167
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>>16243149
A trend with copy protection as it went on was companies looking to get more and more strict with it. You still see copy protection that limits you in some way like Denuvo despite Steam being a thing now. If Steam wasn't a thing all you'd see is more Securom/Tages-drm (Tages iirc did shit like it would check to see if you had a CD rom burner driver installed and would quit the game. Which apparently wasn't legal.)
The companies that make this drm are massive corporate entities and the business types at big publishers don't know the first thing behind software encryption or cracking so they just go with it thinking it'll make share holders happy knowing it might prevent piracy. And they've kept doing this for decades and probably will continue to do so.
248e8a No.16259491
I'm getting a bug where there is no "!" marks above the NPCs heads for quests? Quests still activate and work.
144bc0 No.16259530
>>16218714
>also known to make shitty ripoff 'games' whose data he physically stole from other companies
There's never been any proof of this.
f9f2c1 No.16259553
>>16245167
100% soy but it is a good summary.
dcb394 No.16259610
>>16245167
>jewtube
>not invidious
no clicks for (You)
youtube jew
not tomorrow,not today
not ever nay nay nay
0e4e6c No.16261725
>>16241023
>If you want a piece of plastic in a box so bad get a blank disk and burn it.
I already back up all my games, I'm not going to pay some rent seeker like Steam or GOG to do such. Don't pretend a backup is the same as an official physical copy.
Digital distribution is far more expensive when you take into consideration you get nothing in return for your money. Standard priced physical copies for PC before Steam existed were better than today's "collector's" editions. GOG could lower their price to 1 cent and I would still pirate instead. Cheap =/= low cost. Using your logic, a restaurant charging $5 for a cup of water is cheap because it is only $5.
>easier, faster, and more convenient
I'm willing to give up an insignificant amount of convenience, that insignificant amount of convenience is the only positive digital distribution has but piracy is even more convenient. The only times it isn't more convenient is when the game is sabotaged to make it that way such as a game being released unfinished or unplayable without a patch, but being able to do that on purpose is one of the reasons paid digital distribution was pushed.
Easy access is not a good thing, most people who play games these days, especially on PC are people who wouldn't play games without easy access granted by digital distribution platforms like Steam and GOG, they wouldn't even bother pirating, these casuals are who games are made for now which is why gaming has become worse the more popular digital distribution has become.
>DRM and jews inflating prices
DRM free physical copies have less DRM than GOG, at no point do I have to have an account or be authorized by some server to access the files from my physical copy, but you have to go through both of those DRM every time you download a game from GOG's server. Someone I knew took his laptop to Walmart and installed Warcraft 3 from a battlechest to his laptop without paying even though it has DRM in the form of an offline CD key, then copy and pasted the already installed gamefiles to other people's computers so they could LAN.
Paid digital distribution prices are already incredibly inflated as I already mentioned. The cost of digital distribution should be $0.
>t.never paid for anything digital in my life
Good, piracy is the only acceptable form of digital distribution, paying for digital distribution cannot be justified. Paid digital distribution is a cancer on gaming and even if you exclusively pirate you should want games to be sold physical only.
b28393 No.16261869
>>16259530
Not even his formoer coworkers accuse him of that and they hate him, so they'd have every reason to.
000000 No.16261911
>>16214851
>>16214861
Actually his tall tales about Stones of Arnhem ended up proven disturbingly true. Some auctioneer got his hands on Sir-Tek bankruptcy documents and posted reams of business documents confirming cleve's claims about administrative incompetence, godawful working conditions, useless coworkers, and colossal godawful faggotry (by which I mean his coworkers were the kind of creepy homosexual that gives homosexuals a bad name and loves to insert gayness into his work far beyond the bounds of acceptable taste, like an honest-to-goodness anal sphincter monster design).
These days the take on Cleve is that while he loves hyperbole he's actually talking about real shit.
90877d No.16261921
>>16261911
> that gives homosexuals a bad name
0e4e6c No.16261951
>>16241080
I think you're incredibly short sighted and unable or unwilling to think past the surface level or just have no integrity.
Remakes are good for the developer sure, they are low effort and easy profit. System Shock 3 will not be as good as the originals, it isn't possible in the modern gaming environment. The fact that people would rather have developers go the easy route and make remakes of games that were released when games were physical only helps prove my point.
Charging for NOLF 1/2 would be rent seeking behavior as I already explained. I played through both of the revival versions and they were fine, no need for some shitty company to start charging for them. I have physical copies of them and a dedicated XP machine and they work fine too.
>How does it "hurt" gaming. Gaming is far more profitable than it was back in the early 2000s. There are more games releasing every year than at any other point in history.
Games being more profitable than ever doesn't mean games are better, when I said "gaming" I wasn't talking about the industry's balance sheet, I was talking about the quality of games being released. Games are worse than ever before and we have worse tactics than ever before all because of digital distribution. Paid digital distribution has created the environment for disgusting business tactics such as early access aka paying to test a game when devs used to have to pay people to test their game, DLC, micro transactions, intentionally releasing unfinished/buggy games to the point of being unplayable since they can just be easily patched later, doesn't leave a sour taste in your mouth for paying for a game that is unfinished/buggy to the point of being unplayable since it is so easy to update, games as a service which digital distribution is, not being able to sell it, being expected to pay for less than air, making games even more popular from easy access to people who otherwise wouldn't play or play as much thus making them a huge market which makes companies make games focused on them instead of actual gamers, lowered the barrier for entry, etc.
I don't benefit from GOG, they negatively affect me by sustaining paid digital distribution and the negatives that come with it, if I am going to be negatively affected by them then I might as well at least get the games for free. Piracy is the only acceptable form of digital distribution
PC games being sold in physical stores doesn't need to come back and there is no way it would with all the brainwashed digital drones such as yourself, although I wouldn't mind and it would be better for gaming as a whole if games were sold physical only again. What could and should happen is for developers to sell proper physical copies online, whether it be on their own website or Amazon or someone could make an online store specializing in selling physical PC games. Even then it wouldn't matter for most games because they are still negatively affected by digital distribution.
Paid digital distribution's only benefit is an insignificant amount of convenience, even then piracy would be far more convenient if the developers didn't intentionally sabotage their games to make it so piracy is less convenient, such as intentionally releasing it unfinished or unplayable without a patch or multiplayer requiring official servers instead of player hosted servers or p2p multiplayer. GOG is inherently DRM, my DRM free physical copies have less DRM than GOG because they do not require me to have an account or be authorized by a server at any point to access the files from the disc or flash drive.
GTA5's retail release is not a physical copy, as far as I know GTA 5 requires an update and you have to go through Social Club. A physical copy has the entire game on disc(s)/flash drive and doesn't require an account or official server to be playable. The 4 games in pic related are actual physical copies because they have the entire game on disc(s) and don't require a download or account or authorization to be playable, all can be installed straight form the source (the disc(s)) and playable even without an internet connection.
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0e4e6c No.16261952
>>16241080
>>16261951
No shit you have to download it now, no shit they wanted to get rid of disc drives. It is in their best interest to get rid of physical copies and to make everything digital only, it is far more profitable, allows them to profit from sources provided by being digital in the case of games, and requires less effort. I own a blu-ray drive and use it regularly.
Yes literal brainwashing, the industry had all the reasons it needed to push digital distribution as hard as possible. A good example of brainwashing is (((Gabe Newell))) brainwashing people into thinking automatic updates are a good thing. A game being updated means the game was released unfinished or unplayable and having the ability to easily update a game through some platform only encourages developers to release their games unfinished or unplayable without a patch, as has been proven. He said it was a bad thing that developers used to have to release their games complete and playable without a patch on console because they had no way of patching it but tried to spin it to make it seem like that is a good thing for the player too.
>USB
Thanks for helping my argument, they could release games on flash drives instead of discs, indiebox released a few on flash drive, since people don't have disc drives anymore and a lot of people would want that instead of paying for it digitally, but that is against the developer's best financial interest since that means less profit for them. Flash drives don't last as long as a pressed disc so I would still prefer disc. If a developer did the right thing and pushed for games to be sold physically with the entire game on the disc or flash drive and without requiring some shit platform like Steam or GOG then they would make less profit. I don't care about developers making maximum profit, I care about the best games possible being made, you seem to care about developers making maximum profit even at the expense of the quality of the games. If a game is good then it will be able to make profit even if it is sold physical only.
Your big box straw man has nothing to do with them spending all that money on just a manual, that thicc manual would not be seen until the box is opened and it would fit in one of those double DVD size boxes anyway so they could have continued releasing manuals like that but they didn't to save money which means more profit, and the price of modern games isn't anywhere near reflective of the fact you don't get anything in return for your money anymore.
I'm pinning for an era of vidya that was superior in every aspect except convenience and the devs didn't make as much profit which is why they piss their pants at the mere mention of their game getting a proper physical release. Even if you exclusively pirate you should want games to be sold physical only because that is the best environment for good games to be made. Are you a game dev? I wouldn't be surprised.
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d91a27 No.16261975
>>16261951
>GOG is inherently DRM, my DRM free physical copies have less DRM than GOG because they do not require me to have an account or be authorized by a server at any point to access the files from the disc or flash drive.
That's not how GOG works,
0e4e6c No.16262005
>>16241292
DRM is any hurdle the developer intentionally puts up to restrict unauthorized access.
After I entered the offline cd-key during the installation of Warcraft 3 from my battlechest physical copy which I made sure to do with the internet disconnected, I do not need the disc again, I do not need to keep it in the drive when I play and I was able to copy and paste the game files and put them on a flash drive and back up disc and copy and paste the files from that backup to another computer and the game ran without having to install or enter the cd-key, it is still DRM. The one hurdle to access the files from the original source is that offline cd-key which was intentionally put there but doesn't require an account or server authorization for me to install and play at any point.
GOG requiring an account and authorization is intentional and there as a form of preventing unauthorized access so it is DRM. Just because it is inherent with the distribution method does not mean it gets a pass. If you are going to consider GOG DRM free then my copy of Warcraft 3 needs to be considered DRM free too because you can freely copy and paste the game files after you get past the DRM and any Denuvo game needs to be considered DRM free because you can do the same if it is cracked, but my copy of Warcraft 3 isn't DRM free because it has an offline cd-key and those Denuvo games shouldn't be considered DRM free either even after they are cracked so (((GOG))) shouldn't be considered DRM free either. .
Elder Scrolls Oblivion 5th Anniversary edition is DRM free. Witcher 1, 2, and 3 Enhanced/Complete Editions are DRM free. The vanilla physical releases of Witcher 2 and 3 had DRM, but the Enhanced/Complete Editions don't.
>>16241323
>purchase their products
You aren't purchasing anything, giving them money is a glorified donation.
d91a27 No.16262020
>>16262005
That's not how GOG works you actual retard, you only need a sign in to purchase the games and then download the installer, after that you never have to connect to them.
ebefaa No.16263612
>>16215428
Everyone said he was crazy about Sir-tech's penis monsters and vagina monsters and yiff porn, then decades later Sir-tech had a bunch of shit liquidated and put up for auction and lo and behold, it was all there.
51204c No.16264642
>>16218521
The Doom 2 wad with Doom3 bfg censors the swastika and portraits of Hitler because secret levels and super secret levels are the primary drivers of the reactionary right. Cyberdemons bring peace and tolerance.
08ae17 No.16265261
ha ha gog is selling diablo. gog is a demon too. puns