/v/ - Video Games

>>16198047

The worst part is i've heard asus and gigabyte are as equal in their kikery. Really limits the options. I've had the good luck of not having anything break so far.

My i7 3770K is over six years old and is still going strong, is the recommended card for current AAA releases.

I have an old GT70 that I use it I'm away from my desktop. It's bulky as hell but I've never had hardware problems.

Apple is no.1 on my blacklist since they have a full history of lowest possible quality shit bordering on being purposefully broken.

Also if your Laptop HDDs keep fucking up then try using an SSD as those are far more shock resistant.

As for CS i would guess Noctua as i have heard pretty good things from them so far and they have 6 years warranty on their shit.

>>16198104

>Also if your Laptop HDDs keep fucking up then try using an SSD as those are far more shock resistant.

new laptop actually has an SSD. I didn't have any problems with it. Never had with any SSD for that matter.

>>16198047

>Christmas 2016

fug, actually it was on Christmas 2017, which technically makes it even worse.

>>16198141

Did you change your screen to something like 4k ?

Also the red stuff you posted looks like a high-poly mesh. These arent used ingame.

>>16198127

>tablet / tablet PC

>For gaming I bring a dedicated handheld or I use my phone.

Go back to Facebook.

I've been using my laptop for like 5 years 24/7 for gaming and aside from doing maintenance on my own I only had to replace the keyboard and the fan once. Still got another fan awaiting its turn. Oh, and a couple of pixels died and I almost burned a hole in the hull under my palm with my acidic sweat over the years.

Dell.

The R2 button on my PS2 broke within a month of getting it but 20 years later and the PS1 controller is still flawless. Xbox controllers are annoying because the bumps on the sticks eventually wear down, making them feel so much worse. Never even once had anything bad happen to a Nintendo controller but I've personally never bothered with anything from them post Wii which is the only time I've ever heard of anyone having problems with them.

>>16198930

Doen't help all new laptops have windows 10 on it, and windows 10 alone is like 90% adware and spyware. I can't imagine how much worse it would be with even more of that shit.

>>16198930

You can just delete it.

>>16198930

You can just install linux, dumb commie.

Laptops make me feel like a computer cripple, I can't get shit done on them. It's something to do with the form factor and (lack of) heat management. Albeit, I haven't used anything particularly recent.

I've experienced very few issues with my desktop. No hard drive failures despite using some HDDs bought second hand and some pulled out of old servers. The thing that fucks up the vast majority of the time is software and drivers. Hardware wise, avoid ASUS. My motherboard from them is a piece of shit that refuses to POST if I overclock my CPU at all, my GPU from them (which has since been replaced) made annoying chipping sounds when the fans ran at max, and my WLAN card from them drops at 5ghz all the time (though that's also my ass router's fault). Shit company that gets praise all the time but all of their products that I have had the displeasure to use have fucked with me in one way or another.

>>16199596

Shit Asus wifi/wlan is something i can confirm.

I have the n-13 stick and its the most retarded piece of shit i ever used. Useless chink chipset, and drivers that just dont connect to a 1 year old router despite working with that exact router for said year without problems.

Not to mention its significantly slower than my tp-link despite supporting the exactly same standards.

Fuck Asus.

>>16198047

>>16198930

Post more burgers.

>>16198141

> make them run worse so more people buy the latest hardware?

That is like the oldest trick in the video game tech industry

The fans of my Gigabyte GTX Meme70 started dying after 6 months,1 fell off ,then it was quite for a year and now another one is dying making loud noise any time I play

Headsets are fucking useless garbage the more they cost the faster they brake,When I was 15 I bought a pair of Tiamats,cabel broke after 6 months,warranty,cable broke after 6 months

Logitech G430 lost sound in right ear after ~6 months ,Both times I e-mailed the companies about possible replacement cables,they don't have any not even for sale

Me and my brother have some shared cheap gaming headsets that excluding the one that has sound but mic wont work survived 3 years and are still going

The more things cost the more jewery is involved ,I would still gladly pay a reasonable price for something that uses screws and thick cables that I can fix myself ,I need AK of tech

Right now I am using Sharkoon(German) B1v2 headset ,I hope it lives longer ,it was ~45$ and it's a second edition after the first broke to easily according to reviews ,So I hope Germans did solid work to keep their countries reputation

>>16198047

>Has there a manufacturer you put on a blacklist just because their products couldn't last for shit?

Yes. Microsoft consoles.

Never

Fucking

Again.

>>16201098

The sad thing is because nobody cares about xbones or owns one long enough to find out they are prone to failure, everything about it, the original system, all controller revisions, the power bricks. They have the highest failure rate this gen but unlike last gen it's not documented anywhere because nobody cares about it.

>>16198047

I still use a Toshiba Satellite laptop from 2008. So far I upgraded the HDD twice (the previous HDDs still work). Also topped up RAM and switched the CPU.

Aside from an issue with the factory supplied video cable that sucks after opening/closing so many times, it's been rock solid. Replacing that cable fixed the screen flicker issue I had.

Aside from that, one day I inserted an SD card in the slot, and the machine smoked out (shorted). Panicked, I opened it and found out that a small ribbon cable that powered the media playback buttons was touching a metallic plate. It served as the 'sacrifice' during the short, which caused it to cut off. Cheap replacement later, the media buttons work again and the laptop still runs perfectly.

2006-2011 Toshibas are easy to disassemble and service. I dock some points because they're really fucking annoying with their ridiculous persecution of service manual uploaders.

In comparison, HP has service manuals of all their laptops, but the builds are crappier - making me remove the whole logic board just to access the fucking RAM is bullshit - these laptops should have a fucking RAM access compartment.

If you're looking for HPs, I recommend the business models, like the EliteBook series. They're heavier and bulkier, but also tough as nails and easy to take apart.

Thinkpads are also built pretty well.

>>16199615

>shitting on classic Thinkpad keyboards

Kill yourself

Want to chime in, I bought a z390 Aorus Pro Wifi motherboard a couple of weeks ago and as far as I can tell two of the fan connectors on the motherboard have burned out. In addition to that the software for it sucks ass and refuses to let my computer fall asleep, and I'm not sure if it's the cause of it but I experience a phantom window taking priority away from games that I'm playing leading to either minimizations or having to click back onto the game window.

Definitely not going to buy a Gigabyte brand board after this, I had an MSI mobo for two years with no issues.

Whatever you get make sure you can make every part of it FOSS for future proofing and updates, or updates you do yourself. Case and point any winblows 10 laptop after 2013 or so is pure botnet from the proccessor/wifi to the dGPU and keyboard. If you can't find fully FOSS drivers for it anywhere then its a peice of trash that is unfixable after the first time it breaks. Here's the order of stuff you want control of and the order

>CPU, wifi, all input hardware like usb/sdcard/ps2/keyboard, and a single GPU must be FOSS with no blobs, no exceptions

>Control of fans, comupter specific buttons i.e mediabuttons, and BIOS

The second is for the longevity of the laptop and the first is for usability. If the BIOS is opensource/libre you can install whatever hardware you want, if you want that new GTX 1080which is not FOSS so fuck no you could install it. If you want a new wifi card you could do that too. Want to install a new fan and there's a serial port open for it? Go for it if the BIOS is FOSS. The fan being controllable means you don't have failures instituted by software like the BIOS. Lotsa companies, like asus, have ACPI firmware that causes shorts in components like fans after X amount of time to make you buy the latest and greatest pile of crap. But that can't happen if everything is FOSS. Media buttons being FOSS means you can make them do whatever you want. Want to launch steam? Press a button. Want to open up your torrent client and private tracker in one button? Assign it to the useless pause media button you have using your FOSS software. Windows would never let you do this kind of stuff unless your manufacturer allowed it. With FOSS it doesn't matter who manufactured it, you can do it anyways.

Things to avoid like the plauge if you want FOSS, any AMD hardware including GPU's all which must have blobs loaded to work, intel hardware after intel skylake as their iGPU's are blobs after that point and the intel ME can not fully be controlled/shutdown for now, BIOS's that have black/whitelists or that aren't foss cause that means no hardware changes.

If you don't know what any of the above is then start researching before your next buy. That intel core i7 9000 is going to be shittier then the i5 3000 if the fans stop working after a year so that you are forced to buy the i7 10,000 that will do the same thing.

>>16201272

>any AMD hardware including GPU's all which must have blobs loaded to work,

anon what about the radeon and noveau drivers?

>>16201266

>shitting on classic Thinkpad keyboards

Kill yourself

>1994

>IBM FDD shits the bed, making the PS/2 system useless, as no one was selling PS/2 parts anymore

>BIOS shits the bed and the system will now only boot to BASIC

>1998

>CDROM drive dies ten days after the system is taken out of the box

CTX (computer manufacturer) refuses to honor warranty

>2004

>AMD Duron cracks in half when the factory heat sink is locked down

>2015

>(((Nvidia))) card commits suicide playing 2006-era games

>2016

>(((Intel))) Core 2 Duo completely dies for no reason, on a low-burden computer that is used only for taxes, printing documents, and occasionally youtube

>2017

>A different (((Nvidia))) card commits suicide playing 2006-era games

My current desktop was built in 2008/2009. No man should be using DDR2 RAM in a computer today, but here I am.

>>16201296

Radeon requires a blob loaded to work unless you use hardware supported by the r300 series which is ancient, but FOSS. Nouveau does not need blobs for pre 900 GTX series GPU's. Intel integrated does not require a blob for pre skylake graphics.

>>16198261

I love Rossman.

>>16201258

I had a lot of issues with a Gigabyte mobo myself. The on board audio was absolute garbage, it causes weird sound distortions and speaker crackling. Eventually the PCI slots started failing one by one and I got rid of the damn thing. They really let their QA go to shit over the years, though Asus seems to be going the same direction.

>>16201326

That's not even the right keyboard, you fucking dipshit. What part of "kill yourself" did you not understand?

And here I am, regularly overclocking notebook CPUs and GPUs - MSi and Lenovo - and doing all sorts of other retarded shit with them and the only time I had something break was one Crucial RAM I bought to make my Lenovo toaster not utter shit, was within 10 year warranty, replaced with new piece within a week.

Come to think of it, the only time a desktop broke down for me, it was a dead RAM stick as well - Corsair, some 8 years ago, still within warranty. After replacing it, the PC still runs today.

>>16198047

>2014

>need to commute often, decide to get myself a notebook for gaming instead of a desktop

>get a nice one from Acer, really good spect for the price, really good deal

>fast ofrward a year

>overheats like a bitch because of the accumulated dust

>it's ok, warranty covers it

>give Acer a call, asking them to clean it free of charge, as specified in the warranty

>"Sir, the warranty does not cover using the device in a dusty environment"

<"that's fine, I use it at home."

>"sir, is there dust inside the case?"

<"Obviously, otherwise I wouldn't ask you to clean it."

>"If there's dust inside, it means you are using it in a dusty environment and the warranty doesn't cover it :^) Give us $50 and we'll clean it out ofr you withing two weeks"

>tell them to go fuck themselves

>go to a local shop that promises not just to clean it, but also change the thermal paste and replace copper pads

>costs me $20 and is done in four hours

>notebook still works to this day

Aside from Acer being jews, I've had a good experience overall.

>>16202157

>tfw can't overclock anything because laptop has a shit case and would cook itself

>>16198047

>My spastic ass gave a bunch of HDD the click of death by stimming too hard.

My desktop has good hardware but ryzen can only use win 10 which makes it a very expensive paperweight

>>16202348

What? Isn't it supposed to be the opposite? Intel is the one trying to fuck you over with windows versions older than 10.

The CPUs themselves are still x86_64 CPUs just like any other, they can't just break standards for the hell of it.

Ryzen mobos usually provide specific drivers for win7 to fix USB issues, and the update blocking is actually Microsoft's doing but you can use wufuc or something similar to get the updates if you really need them.

I'd suggest trying to reinstall the system. Before you do this, have a separate non-system partition in your disk, place all mobo drivers in there, unzipped (or put a winrar installer in there as well). That way once win7 finishes installing (and you probably have no USB storage support) all you need to do is open the drivers you put in the second partition and get things rolling.

if you are moving around that frrquently you're going to need to reduce moving parts or get bwtter shock absorption otherwise your shrit is gonna brrak

Also you dumb dumbs, why don't you have CD drives, then microcock couldn't fuck you with gimped USB support

>>16198047

I've had a couple HDDs fail on me but since they all started clicking some time before that and had quite a bit of use time I was never really bothered with that.

What does suck is how fast a lot of fans go to shit, half a year should be jack shit for something so simple yet a lot of them start making noises.

>>16202414

Sounds like you're using sleeve bearing fans in an horizontal position, which apparently is a bad idea because it causes those fans to make noise after several months.

>>16202385

Always buy Kingston/WD, anon.

>>16198141

Developers don't write their own engines anymore.

>>16205015

Which is better between the two. generally?

>>16198047

>Did you have similar experiences with your hardware, be it about your laptop, or your desktop parts?

Been lucky that most of my parts that fucked up had something to do with me fucking around with them. Learned my consumer mistakes long ago. Learned to never buy an expensive laptop, never buy a component not on sale, and that Cooler Master is the only MIR to have confidence in.

>Has there a manufacturer you put on a blacklist just because their products couldn't last for shit? I don't buy Intel or Nvidia for reasons well known. Asrock tries to fuck you out of your MIR so I might stay away in the future.

>If you were to shill recommend a manufacturer for good reliability of their hardware or, at least, their customer service, who would it be?

Cooler Master came through no problems for MIRs, my Sapphire Nitro 380 has been silent and flawless for nearly four years. I will likely use them next upgrade in the year 2023 should I still be alive.

>>16205035

WD for HDDs, Kingston for SSDs and RAM because they make good quality products and sell them cheap. You can always count on Kingston memories to not break, and their RAM has lifetime warranty.

>>16205064

Kingston SSDs shitting the bed and being slow as shit is a well-known meme.

>>16198141

You can't just say shit like this and not share your specs, also, source games were always very light games that could run on anything.

>>16201426

are you aware that your second monitor is at 59Hz instead of 60

>>16201409

>that's not even a thinkpad keyboard

It's still a thinkpad keyboard, it has thinkpad on the keyboard therefore it is a thinkpad keyboard.

>>16205061

Why wouldn't you be alive for 2023? You okay?

>>16205064

WD hasn't done good in the HDD world since the flood and back then Samsung was almost universally a better / faster / cheaper option back then, nowadays Toshiba and HGST drives are better and yeah I already know HGST is technically WD but they still happen to be better than the ones labelled WD

Kingston does good RAM but their SSD are trash, crucial is what you want for cheap SSDs

>>16205177

>Up until 2010 and later models

They're still similar especially the rubber scissor switch keyboards, they still flex when pressed, they still use cheap rubber and have the lowest profile keycaps and still have a relatively low travel, there's nothing special about them almost comparable to any other cheap rubber dome keyboard save for the 'unique' trackpoint but other laptops did have their own form of a trackpoint.

>>16201189

What are some good business models for laptops?

>>16205154

Yeah, I sorted that out ages ago, but there was no cause to make a new Speccy cap.

>>16205403

As I mentioned, HP elitebooks are really tough. A bit heavy, but they're really easy to maintain - since HP has tech manuals for every model anyone can do some repairs or change hardware.

Toshiba has the Tecra line, which is rather simplistic in exterior design, but still well built. Another good point is that several Tecra models still have an easily replaceable battery (instead of a shitty built in one that you need to unscrew/unglue).

Business oriented laptops usually have docking capabilities - look for that point in the description. If it can be docked, it's usually a more rugged (but bulkier) machine.

>>16205167

As you get older, the guarantees of tomorrow, let alone 4 years from now, are less set in stone. I am alright for now

>>16205064

>>16205178

Buy Kingston ram for causal laptops only, ssds as a last resort.

>>16202207

>not using additional cooling solutions

You bring dishonor to your family.

>>16201379

>pic

How do you fuck something like that up in 3D? Wouldn't you notice your model clipping into the ground?

>>16201426

>>16206481

>zip drive

Is it true what they say about the click of death?

Every headset with a mic on it I ever bought on it was garbage, just about every mouse I've bought it garbage sans IntelliMouse and my current FK1, and I remember EVGA gfx cards being shit quality and fucking up on me in under 2 years as well. Sad day when my 8800 GT died. Haven't made too many tech buys I really really regret.

>>16206391

I've been using MSi motherboards and GPUs for desktops for years, as well as MSi laptops and I've never had any issue with them, although I've heard their Radeon cards from the 200 and 300 series were crap. Never used one myself, though.

>>16206630

>4GB of RAM

>[CURRENT YEAR]

>not a retro rig

Do my eyes deceive me?

>>16205108

>source games were always very light games that could run on anything.

source games aren't light, they're cpu heavy and rely very much on clock speed.

>>16206492

>Is it true what they say about the click of death?

Yes, Zip drives are poorly-engineered pieces of shit, but if you love them well enough, you can sometimes unfuck them for a few years with a new belt and new lithium grease.

Oddly enough, the Zip drive in the piece of shit Mac I bought for $10 at a rummage sale has no problems. Probably because the faggot who originally bought the system never used it.

>>16206532

I once found an HP laptop in the middle of a road and very obviously it was ran over by several cars, still POSTed.

HDD was half dead though.

>>16206630

Still not as bad as that one guy I know how paired a 1060 with an a4-3400. The bottleneck was terrible.

>>16198047

I feel ya op. I seem very lucky with my GE72VR which is another msi laptop with a 1060 in it. I got it as a gaming desktop replacement (external monitor and keyboard hookups) and it worked great, but I couldnt shake the anxiety that if something broke it would not likely be fixable. About a year and a half later I threw down a grand to build a 1080 ITX build as the cards were getting dirt cheap. I am on the MSI right now as it is now just my casual laptop, as casual as a 17 inch laptop gets. MSI still fully works though.

>>16206492

>How do you fuck something like that up in 3D? Wouldn't you notice your model clipping into the ground?

It's done on purpose for "muh cinematography" but ends up looking like shit, same happened with overlord, where the giant monsters were closer in certain shots for dramatic effect, only to teleport away on other shots.

>>16202348

Go full Linux!

reminder for anyone not in the know EVGA having top notch customer service is a meme spread by shills on reddit who jump into any thread about a malfunctioning product with their made up stories and timestamped RMA unboxing selfies as if a photo proves anything or it's normal to document getting mail.

When I built my pc I poured over Newegg and Amazon reviews of dozens of products and all the curves for every component except cases were the same:

75% gave it 4 or 5 stars, 5% 2 and 3 stars, and 20% 1 star because it was DOA or failed immediately.

Everything is shit

>>16206630

Upgrading to a 860k/880k and having 8GB DDR3 1866 dual channel would make the PC run fine. Best GPU it could be paired with would be a RX 570 or 1060 3GB. Beyond that, the system would need to be replaced.

>>16206653

No, hell, you can run Hat Fortress 2 on integrated graphics from Core2Duo.

>>16198047

I got a dell latitude e7250 I bought used and damaged (aesthetically), shit runs fine. Opensuse runs great on it. KVM runs borderline flawlessly. Get almost five hours on the battery with "lite browsing"

The bottom panel is loose though. But it doesn't effect anything as far as I can tell.

I was playing factorio last weekend on it, ran fine.

I have a desktop, a decade old xeon e5450 I picked up as garbage a few years ago. Also runs fine. It played shadow of war at 30 or so frames, with my 750ti.

>>16206630

>107 degrees

>4 gigs of ram

How have you got a top end graphics card but a shitty stick of ram and a cpu as hot as an oven?

The most catastrophic failure I've had had to do with a power supply loosing its bearings, I entirely thought someone unloaded a shotgun behind me. At least there wasn't any fire, I'll give it that.

>>16208731

Aren't Micro-Star boards shit? I haven't done a build in a while so my memory may be foggy.

>100ºC

What the damn hell is going on there, is that just the state of a Ryzen?

>>16208731

Put a heat sink fan over your GPU you fucking buffoon.

>>16208774

Carbon pro is the best from the line except for some slot issues and works the smoothest with the 2700x

>>16208780

>>16208783

I only installed speccy to show this ez because piriform are both retarded and kikes. Actual temp is 39c but they cant be bothered to make their software work for ryzen or most AMD cpus. they also begun turning great shit like CCleaner into spyware with newest updates. They've fallen from grace, only use shit like HWinfo or manufacturer software and never anything from Piriform

>>16208792

><1500

Fuck >1500

>>16208789

Interesting, I know crap cleaner has been on a decline but that speccy business is new to me.

>>16208808

speccy has been around for ages though

>>16208831

>had 16 gigs but one stick died

>other stick has 12 gigs

>missmatching ram

>>16208875

Exodus runs like shit anyway, pretty poorly optimised

>>16208874

Besides autism, is there actually anything wrong with slapping RAM of variable sizes in there?

>>16208894

Access speed, yeah. You want to match your chipset's memory channels in RAM. Sometimes it's two, sometimes it's three. That means getting either two (four) or three (six) sticks of RAM of the same size (and timing, but if you buy them at the same time you won't have to worry).

>>16208902

So if I were to run out of ram I can simply replace the old ram sticks with new ones?

>>16208894

It just doesnt run as well as if you used two sticks of the same size and manufacturer. I think some mobos underclock mixed size RAM too?

>>16208862

>other stick

Other sticks

Fuck I worded that poorly

You have 12 gigs of ram currently

Previously you had 16

16-12=4

You are now running with 12 gigs in duel channel, that means you likely have 3 sticks of 4 currently or 2 sticks of 6

If the first then you are running with 3 sticks and unless your mobo is one of the rare ones that can run 3 sticks then you will currently be experience inferior performance due to them being run in single channel mode due to an unmatched stick

If not, then you were running with 2 6 sicks and one 4 stick which is missmatched ram which can crash your computer

>>16208902

So does that mean that even two sticks of the same size can be mismatched? Guess there's more to RAM than I thought.

>>16208903

Pirate the resi 2 remake, its one of the best optimised game released this year and test it out if you get stable fps to see how beefy it really is

>>16208912

There is more to ram then that as well. There is also the timing which needs to match.

>>16208914

How can you tell, besides buying two of the same identical sticks?

>>16208917

Reading the product specifications/the products manuals because nobody fucking posts relevant product info on the product specification section on website stores.

>>16208917

typically you buy two identical sticks, they often come in 2x or 4x packs

>>16208913

Eh, don't really give a shit about RE, DMCV is using the same engine though so I'll see how my computer handles itself with that game.

Also is this question of mine >>16208907

getting ignored because its that much of a stupid question?

And what the fuck is a chipset memory channel and how do I find out my computers chipset channel?

I have no idea about computer parts with the exception of what they do and how to put them together sorry if im being a bother.

>>16208931

>the same engine though

Vindictus runs on the source engine and that game is nowhere near as optimized as Half Life 2.

>>16208951

If your stick of ram runs out, its not worth replacing right off the bat. First you should try downloading more ram to see if you can refill your emptied stick.

>>16208956

>First you should try downloading more ram to see if you can refill your emptied stick

Anon, why do you have to bully me like this?

What did i do to deserve that, I just want to learn how to take care of my precious beauty of a pc better.

It better not be because I talked shit about RE2 or like DMCV.

>>16208874

I had four 4GB sticks, one of them died, so now I only have 12GB of RAM

>>16208998

What did you mean by "running out of RAM", exactly?

>>16208998

I'm not messing with you, its a thing.

You know how both HDD and Ram are refered to as memory right? Thats becuase they both are, expect while a hard drive is filled as its used, ram is emptied as its used.

Normally your OS will refill your ram when it gets low with junk data, but sometimes, often due to having very little ram to begin with, the ram will not refill correctly.

When this happens you need to go to the ram's manufacturers website and download a ram refill tool. This is jokinly referend to as downloading ram, unfortunatly, normalfaggots took the joke and turned it into a retarded meme.

lurk moar faggot

>>16209005

Is your Mobo one of the rare ones that can run 3 sticks without reverting them to single channel mode becuase you have a stick of ram that has no pair?

>>16209019

>tfw you realized you could have worked in a delete system 32 into that explanation as to what the ram refill programs do but you already tipped your hat with the spoiler text

God I wish I was dead now

>>16209014

Back when I had a laptop i used to play tf2 on there. After a year or so the game started to crash and freeze on me out of nowhere and it became incredibly slow. I assume it was the rams fault because there was no other way that could have happened to the game. I'm worried the same thing could eventually happen to my current PC.

>>16209019

Oh okay, problem solved! Thanks a lot anon!

I assume I am running out of ram whenever my games start to perform worse.

My next question for you is how do I tell if one of my ram sticks crapped out on me?

>>16207462

I thankfully have not needed to call on them recently, but I had an agp 7800 and an 8800 Ultra $800 card) that needed to be swaped out MANY times.

The 7800 was a power issue or ram issue, I could not get it to run without black screening if I let it run at factory overclock. I think after 4 replacements I nailed one. The 8800 ultra on the other hand would cook its memory chips so fucking much. I think I am on the 4th replacement for that, too. I did not run the 4th one because at that point I replaced it with a 460gtx.

I think I did need to replace the 460 once because of memory going bad. Since then I have the 970gtx and 1080gtx with no issues. I have no issue with their warranties so I stuck with them. I don't think any card maker has %100 functioning stock.

>>16209033

Yeah but you didn't answer my question. What do you mean by "running out of RAM"?

>>16209033

There is never a bad time to refill your ram, its like defragging a SSD or stress testing your GPU/CPU. You should try to do it at least once per month or after installing any new programs.

>>16209038

he's a tech illiterate who fell for a followup to download more RAM, he can't explain

and don't discount the possibility that he might be trolling by pretending to be tech illiterate

>>16209061

I'm leaning to the latter honestly.

>>16208833

I know this, just saying I didn't know it had conflicts with hardware like that.

>>16207462

Any idea how to fix a video card with a borked bios? For some reason, a used 4650 I've git crashes on everything but linux and the Windows 7 default drivers. 3D games work fine, and the card is stable otherwise.

I've tried finding a good bios for the card, but so far no luck. it's a 512mb visiontek one btw

Fuck I can't be doing this I need to sleep.

>>16209085

Have your olver versions of the bios? Sometimes newer versions are the ones that introduce problems. Its the bios and not the drivers right?

>>16209077

Try reading the manual

>>16209085

In most cases with firmwares, unless there is enough good data to get you going far enough to do a firmware update, you are literally replacing the bios chip on the card. Don't fuck with that shit when there is only one bios (many enthusiast hardware today have a backup bios you can flip with).

>>16209099

I've looked everywhere for a good bios dump. I can't find one for the specific model I've got, and every other bios I've tried bricks the card until I flash back the old bios. I'd love for that card to get used, but until I can get it not to bluescreen on anything but microsoft drivers- my plan of putting it in a Vista or XP rig will have to wait.

>>16209099

probably a no, not finding anything in the manual that says anything about that.

>>16206630

>4gb DDR3

Not even going to bother reading the rest. The first computer I ever build back in 2012 had 8gb DDR3. How the fuck do you expect to play newer games?

>>16209209

Please tell me you didn't pay more than $200 or $300 for that. Even then, that hardware is more than half a decade old.

>>16209209

You're kind of fucked. Even your monitor isn't redeemable.

500GB SSD is nice though.

You can also reuse your HDDs for a future build.

Do you have an external 3TB HDD?

>>16209209

yeah not much to redeem out of that build outside the HDD, and then only as a secondary for file storage.

I would suggest savin up a bit and building one from the ground up like a normal human anon, pre-builts are jewtech to siphon sheckles from mongaloids.

>>16209209

Everything in your comp is budget shit from 6 years ago, wtf.

>>16209216

>>16209231

>>16209264

Yeah I bought it a few years ago. I was going to go for something cheaper because I already knew that I was going to get a shit deal, but the kikes pressured me into getting it. I don't want to talk about the price. Can I have someone else's list? I just want to be able to run games in 3D, and I don't trust myself enough to not fuck up tremendously.

>>16209220

I have a few external hard disks, including the pictured 3TB.

>>16209284

Just buy a used 750 or r9 380 and you should be fine for playing modern games

>>16209284

there's a billion build guides available, just decide on a budget and build from there.

Just dont forget to factor in peripherals like keyboard, mouse, monitors, and speakers.

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/

and you can plug all your parts into PCPP to make sure they are all compatible and find the best price.

hands == held.

>>16209284

You'll be better off learning on your own.

What if someone here gives you a build that works, but then you find out it wasn't money efficient enough and you could've done better?

Do some of your own research. Look up benchmarks. Benchmarks are always the most important indicative, looking at specs like GHz speeds for CPUs is mostly irrelevant. Figure out which benchmarks are the most relevant for gaming.

Then compare different sources.

You're much better off learning to do your own research, which will enable you to do more search on your own in the future for future builds, rather than having someone do the search for you this one time.

>>16209284

Motherboard- MSI B450

CPU- Ryzen 5 2600

GPU- AMD RX 480

RAM- 8GB DDR4

Power Supply- Corsair CX 750W

Not perfect, but it werks and it won't break the bank.

>>16209330

He can get a cheaper PSU probably. 700W or 6500W Gold or Silver rating is enough.

>>16209209

You are running APU graphics with slow, single channel RAM. Just buy a GPU that you can use in a later machine. Doesn't mattter if it bottlenecks. The RX 570 is fairly cheap right now. You are on a 900p monitor so games would be quite playable with that setup.

>>16206630

That CPU is slow, and 4gb of ddr3 ram is very little nowadays, no wonder newer games run like ass on that, you should be able to play older games pretty good though, basically, anything Directx 9, you can probably play some Directx 11 games too, as long as they're NOT x64.

>>16209753

>speccy

>botnet

Do you spew shit out to sound cool or do you have some fucking proof?

>>16198047

I have a woodgrain Atari 2600 from 1978 that still works perfectly yet 1000$ dollar macbooks last about 3-5 years. Really makes you think huh? And yes I am well aware a macbook is light years more technical then a 2600 and has some moving parts but 40 years of technological advancment and innovation and a woodgrain chink made game console works better

>>16198047

Shit dude, you need to buy refurbished office-laptops. And do all the hard work with a desktop.

Also, another important consideration you need to make is that you never should buy hardware, that has some variations from the original specifications or patterns. For example;

Motherboard a has revisions 1, 2 and 3. Generally what that means is, is that some chinese jew has figured out a way to change some component for a cheaper alternative, and thus you end up with a revision 2 of that motherboard. Which will probably end up having reliability issues because whoopedowoo, who would have guessed using substandard sub-components might cause issues?

>>16210145

If it's a modern board with diagnostic leds you can literally just power it on with nothing plugged in except power and a fan (aka no CPU no RAM) and go from there, only thing you get in those cases are fanspin and the mobo leds but it's enough to go from.

>>16210212

It's an Aorus X470 Gaming 5 (AMD Ryzen) board. It has the word Gaming in it and an angry animal, so you can tell it's hardcore. I see in one site's description that it can apparently do that.

>Hardware Troubleshooting at a Glance

>On-board LEDs controlled by the system BIOS indicate if a malfunction is occurring, allowing users to quickly diagnose which major component (CPU/DDR/VGA/HDD) is malfunctioning so they may take action promptly.

However, I can't get that far. It literally doesn't power on, so I don't see any lights or fans. I know power is going to the computer, as the motherboard and things plugged into the USB flash for a short moment when power starts flowing, but it does absolutely nothing when the power button is pressed, as if it wasn't receiving energy.

>>16210228

That's a short / power surge protection.

If you've already tried booting it with everything outside the case then the mobo is dead, if not try that.

>>16210241

Even removing the CPU? The fan is pretty latched on hard. I'm not even sure if I physically can remove it. No screws. I can try to remove everything else. If a short is happening, (didn't know if that's what that flash is, or if it's normal) then does that rule out a bad power supply? I can stomach replacing a power supply more than I can having to replace a motherboard. The thing we suspected was that maybe the case's power button is misaligned from the shock, but I can't actually reach under the button. I guess I would have to get a new button to use as a brute force for turning things on and if that doesn't work, I'm fucked.

>>16210248

>then does that rule out a bad power supply?

Could be the PSU is bad on one rail (iirc USB is on the 5v rail which would explain USB stuff powering on but not the rest) but that's really not a common problem, a short is more likely

Could also be overcurrent protection triggering on the PSU but that's also a short (unless the PSU is old or very near the limit of what your system pulled), although then it has a chance of being on hte PSU end rather than the mobo

>I guess I would have to get a new button to use as a brute force for turning things on and if that doesn't work, I'm fucked.

Just short the power on pins with a screwdriver to test that, the button works the same way in fact but it could do weird things if the short is too short in duration.

>>16210320

Well except the CPU and mobo you can test everything separately

Try the PSU by jumpstarting it with a paperclip (just look it up) with a couple hard drive and a fan plugged in.

or at-least just the fan because the HDD could also cause the issue you're describing actually if it's shorting somewhere.

>>16209136

You can also do a visual check on the mobo.

If it has 6 slots and three are one color and three are another color then chances are it can handle triple channel memory. Just make sure that you put all the sticks you will be using in the same color slot.

If its got 8 slots and 4 are one color and 4 are another, then it can run quad channel memory, again, make sure that all sticks are in the same color slot.

>>16209209

>>16209284

Don't buy rigs build your own rig

There is also always The Falcon Guide, or as its known these days, logicalincrements.

>tfw logicalincrements posts unarchived links to gawker sites and used affiliate links to the components

>>16208685

>1050

>top end

what? it's current gen, but it's not good

>>16210320

If you have a heavy heatsink+fan, the inertia would put some serious stress on the board on impact. I'd be surprised if there wasn't damage around the heatsink screws.

Try reseating the motherboard power cable if you haven't already.

>>16210335

I wouldn't fool around with a PSU using a paper clip, maybe when I decide to kill myself. Use a multimeter or don't touch it at all. Swapping out the PSU for another is the best PSU test.

5157f9 hasn't posted in 4 hours, he could be a twitching corpse with 800w running through him.

>>16210576

looking for new victims for the HRT scam huh?

>>16210576

Go home aero

>>16211069

>I wouldn't fool around with a PSU using a paper clip

EVGA literally gives you a PSU tester that does the exact same thing, it shorts two pins to make the PSU think it's plugged

>>16211069

It's just DC on that side. If you're that worried, grab a cable with insulation and only strip the tips. Then bridge the green cable (PWR_OK) pin with any ground pin.

When powered on, the PSU fan should start spinning.

Swapping the PSU is not really a "PSU test" but while it works, it does require you to have a spare working PSU to use for the diagnosis. If you're in a bind, the bridge test is easy.

>>16211235

He's talking about the shock risk nigger, not about the functionality of it, the PSU tester you talk about is encased in plastic so you don't get zapped

>>16211386

>>16211069

I'm not dead (physically) yet. It was 1 or 2AM and I eventually decided to stop for the night. I may just have to have someone else look at it, preferably a friend's relative because fuck going to a random fix-it shop and getting price gouged. I don't want to risk spending money only for something to not work, so probably best to have it looked at by a second hand and let them deal with the hassel and more risky techniques. I only have so much patience.

>5157f9 hasn't posted in 4 hours, he could be a twitching corpse with 800w running through him.

It's 750w.

>Finally have a decent enough job to start buying and putting together a better PC

>Buy each part individually so I didn't bankrupt myself, and still be able to pay the bills

>Managed to get my new mobo last year, before I got fired

>Got a new, slightly better job that ensures security, and even a monkey can do it

>Can start buying parts again

>Get everything together except a new GPU

>Get a used GeForce 1070 ITX based on an acquaintance's recommendation

>Plug it in, and it freezes the whole system during the boot screen

>Manage to get it into Safe Mode, but it still freezes

>Say fuck it and try a fresh install; nope, still freezes on boot

>Send it back and get a Radeon RX 270 instead, on sale too

>Now my computer freezes from time to time, and have to hard reset it every time

>Too afraid to keep my computer running for long, so I put it in sleep mode when I'm not using it

Now that I think about it, the trouble started when I tried to install the 1070. I also tried to uninstall the old AMD drivers from my old GPU, but with no luck on that either. Hope my mobo isn't the problem.

>>16211069

>with 800w running through him

Oh, and that is not how it works, by the way.

It's the amps that kill you.

>>16211399

>He's talking about the shock risk nigger, not about the functionality of it, the PSU tester you talk about is encased in plastic so you don't get zapped

Even in the eventuality you're a huge dumb and bridge the 5v+ and 12v+ together worst case it blows up instantly best case you trigger OCP

Besides plastic coated paperclip exist.

>>16211416

I had a HTPC that froze when nearby devices were turned on and off. Sometimes dirty power or a shitty power supply is the cause.

>>16210235

Nah they're both plugged in to the GPU. I'm not sure about the quality of the ivy bridge I have since I don't know too much about it.

>>16211452

Anything could be the problem really, he will only know until he can test each component individually, i had one PC that would randomly freeze, the problem was a slightly bent pin in the cpu socket, in most cases it is going to be the motherboard because it is the bigger one with more electronics, and can have all kinds of failures, the one i am using somehow manages to fry or shut off anything plugged in the USB 3 ports.

>>16211452

It's definitely not the power supply, as ordering a higher wattage one didn't fix the issue (I'm at 750 Watts now compared to the 550 I originally got).

>>16211472

Yeah, unfortunately, I'm not hardware-savvy enough to test any of these. Could very well look for a repair shop somewhere to take a look at it, but they're a dying breed these days.

>>16211501

You could eliminate software being an issue by installing a fresh OS on a secondary drive. That it locks up in safe mode gives the impression it may be hardware related. It isn't hard to find obvious damage like raised caps or scorch marks. If you have 2 sticks of ram, try each alone. Disconnect any unnecessary hardware. If it still locks up, then try updating the motherboard bios. It isn't uncommon for an old bios to cause issues with newer hardware or drivers. As you try different things, you eliminate the possible causes.

>>16211672

>i dont play anything made past 2006, and now im just fucking about trying to make my own game instead of waiting for a good one to get made.

<Missing out on Yakuza

>>16208903

>>16208883

You can't disable Antialias, depth of field, motion blur and a few other effects.

The game looks nice, especially near the end. But It could run a lot better, its obviously a console port.

>>16211187

>>Does anybody use Ryzen APUs? (2200G or 2400G)

I have a 2200G. The Vega 8 es DECENT, but just that, it will make do in the meantime but you have to switch to a GPU at some point, also it eats RAM to work. Im saving money for a GPU at the moment.

>>16199686

This

The other day my Sapphire Radeon 7850 died after seven years of faithful service, probably because one of the ceramic caps for voltage regulation died. I hope the used big boy Gigabyte Radeon 7870 I replaced it with will last for at least a few more years. I am a money miser but I could afford the ~400 Euro to upgrade mobo, CPU, RAM and GPU but I don't really need the new hardware for most of the older games I play and I want to hold out until at least the final Zen refresh is out. Also, I'm not a dirty hippie or anything but that culture of throwing out high technology (mostly smartphones these days) like stale bread is pissing me off. This is why chinks will one day inherit this gay earth.

System:    Host: localhost Kernel: 5.0.0-gentoo x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: i3 4.16
           Distro: Gentoo Base System release 2.6
Machine:   No /sys/class/dmi; using dmidecode: root required for dmidecode
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 955 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3600 MHz 1: 2100 MHz 2: 2100 MHz 3: 2500 MHz 4: 2100 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: amdgpu Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series (PITCAIRN, DRM 3.27.0, 5.0.0-gentoo, LLVM 7.0.1)
           version: 4.5 Mesa 19.0.0-rc6
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.0.0-gentoo
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 6c:f0:49:ed:6b:96
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 11066.2GB (54.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SSD_830 size: 64.0GB
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Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 35.1C mobo: N/A gpu: 33.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
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>>16212044

>actually willing to get dox'd

>>16212067

I'm not gonna get doxed by someone who builds computers with inadequate power supplies over the MAC address on my internal, wired network that's for sure. Seriously, pay the extra 30-40 bucks for a decent Enermax PSU that will likely last you for a decade or more. Power requirements for consumer PC hardware have been going down so you'l be more than fine with a 600W one.

>>16211420

watts = amps × volts

>>16211450

>worst case it blows up

that's a big problem, especially if it wasn't broken

I had a friend whose 'gayman' laptop fan and screen got fucked within a year. It was an HP Omen with a 1050 Ti. Worst of all, it said GTX 1060 at the store, but it had a 1050 Ti. The shit build quality and parts, the shit cooling solutions, and the lack of user-serviceable and spare parts are the main reasons I'll always avoid laptops like the plague. If everything was swappable like desktops (screen, fans, mobo), I'd have no problem. also fuck thermal pads, they're overpriced as fuck.

>>16198047

wew, lad. what kind of shit country do you live in that they don't extend the warranty period by the amount of time the laptop is in repairs?

>>16198104

>Apple is no.1 on my blacklist since they have a full history of lowest possible quality shit bordering on being purposefully broken.

seconding this. MacBooks are hot ovens in a pretty case basically. they are overpriced as fuck, have some of the absolute worst ventilation and mediocre components (often underclocked to make up for shit cooling). remember their laptops with a "Touch bar"? that shit drains battery like crazy, overheats, and tends to freeze. remember the old Nvidia mobile GPUs that tended to desolder on their own through normal use? (GTX 400, 500, 600, 700 mobile series) Apple laptops were hit really hard by that shit.

>>16211420

>It's the amps that kill you.

It's the VOLTAGE that generates amps. V/R = I. Higher voltage means higher current. Hence why warning signs have high voltage written on them instead of high current.

>>16210548

>There is also always The Falcon Guide

it's a great starting point but missing plenty of CAVEATS:

>PSU brand =/= quality. Most PSUs are REBRANDED from OEMs. For example, XFX's XT series has mediocre quality, but their XTR series (the 80-plus gold) is good (and relatively expensive)

picking a PSU is a nightmare due to the scarce amount of info in general. e.g. OEM and original model, fan bearing, size and speed, component quality and ratings, misleading labels (showing peak power instead of continuous power).

>no mention of stuff that separates shit from good mobos (e.g. chipset, VRM and chipset cooling, phase power design (4+1 is shit, 8+2 doesn't mean excellent), MOSFETs, audio codecs, NICs)

>>16198945

it has dx12

>>16228694

this i bought a core2quad laptop in 2012 from (((acer))) the harddrive died within a year

>MSI

>crap

who would have thought

you should have gone for ASUS ROG (TM) equipment goy

>>16198065

my nigga, I have the same cpu and no need to change anything

>>16226724

You need more RAM

>>16210157

AMD Phenom II X6 Black Edition 1090T.

Running the same, fucking awesome CPU.

I don't know how he does it, but even after nearly 10 years he still does his job.

>buying laptops

Don't fucking do it. Seriously. Laptops are just desktops which are downgraded in reliability when you take away the portability. The laptop brand (Dell, HP or whatever) manufactures the laptop themselves, and it has much stricter tolerances for heat, but the problem is that those companies simply aren't as good as manufacturing parts or cases as the specialist companies that designed the parts are. So you have stricter tolerances combined with lower quality manufacturing; not really a good recipe.

You should get a small PC case, like microATX, instead and carry around a small screen with you in a computer bag. Sure it's slightly more effort but you won't have parts fail on you constantly. Laptops are basically designed to fail.

got 1070ti recently waited til the last moment to get it, just before 20 series launches, saw what happened with RTX lol

My win 8 lenovo y500 is still going strong

Altho the graphics card is getting slow same with the hardrrive

I bought a 1200 dollar gaming pc with great hardware

Try to play games

Win 10 causes microstutter and weirdness out the ass

Rip pc gaming

>>16243077

>buying a non lenovo laptop

>>16244614

>windows 10 micro-stutter

Time to replace that drive, fam.

>>16205064

Kingston, in chinkland atleast, just buys flash ram ssd's, sdcards, microsdcard, phone internal flash ram, DRAM, etc from samsung/toshiba and resells them after rebranding them. Don't buy them as you could get a top of the line samsung flash ram or the shittiest of the shit toshiba. It is random though since they get random shipments.

>>16227546

>gtx 400-700

>desoldering from use

I've had a mobile GPU fitting that description for nearly a decade and never had a problem and I can play modern games too. So ciatation needed and don't cite retards that run their GPU at 110C.

>>16206646

If you use gentoo and aren't a retard you can play modern 2017 ish games on less then 3GB of ram. I personally only ever use 2GB with vidya and have 32GB of RAM on my system.

>>16244614

>I bought a 1200 dollar gaming pc with great hardware

You probably didn't, though.