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File: 3fabad61da3db33⋯.webm (2.12 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Metro Stealth.webm)

7f23aa  No.16195065

Look at this top tier stealth boys

908159  No.16195120

This made me lul, it's realistic in a sense if you think about it tho.

But I actually can't wait to play this game, been waiting for a sale or something, but I've always liked the Metro series, even if the main premise of the story is dumb, the gameplay is really fun, especially the survival mode in the last two games.

Polite sage cuz of low effort thread


b271a5  No.16195251

>>16195065

Metro's stealth and AI have always been shit.


f4c53f  No.16195264

If someone dies or is seriously injured, and they have their finger on the trigger, there's always a possibility their hands will spasm and pull the trigger.


27dd5d  No.16195269

>>16195120

buy it on consoles if you can. fuck epic and their moneyhatting shit.


b271a5  No.16195309

>>16195269

Or just pirate it.


b271a5  No.16195330

>>16195314

This. There hasn't been a single Metro game as good as even Shadow of Chernobyl.


6f6d40  No.16195333

throws knife starts shooting

0/10 not thief


d8dcd3  No.16195347

>>16195065

Didn't he throw it at his leg rather the guys head or body for an actual kill? Shit game still, played it for 5 hours and regretted it the entire time.


f1f8a0  No.16197434

The stealth was always shit and overpowered as hell in metro.


16c7cc  No.16197440

The open world in this game is mini ares similar to the sections in shadow of chernobyl but you can only move on to the next area after completing one area.


a97dd6  No.16197447

File: 90a368a5213b9d6⋯.png (1.52 MB, 800x1129, 800:1129, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16197440

<So this?


c4f96d  No.16197448

I thought Exodus was, memes and jewishness aside, a shitty game, though. Is this an actual shill thread?


ce9858  No.16198743

File: eb7fccc2ea6e45f⋯.jpg (325.11 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Thanbockth.jpg)

>>16197448

Looks like it.

IMHO DerpSilver sold out in more ways than just the EPIC store.Pretty much everything has been copypasted from last light.

The GFX are nice but they double dipped on nvidia shitworks and somehow rigged the game so you cant limit tessellation even through the catalyst control panel, unless you turn it off entirely from the in-game menu, presumably to associate quality with nvidia.

Higher settings of the GFX seem to be mostly extra lighting and a metric fuckton of ambient occlusion.I didnt notice any texture/model changes from high->ultra->extreme.

The AI is extremely dumb and while they did the bare minimum to make it able to navigate the different environments, all points come off when you realize they pull the old dead space trick of monsters running into their spawnholes and " resetting" whenever anything other than a straight path is required(perhaps a convoluted straight path with a couple of leaps and aesthetic motions, but a straight path nonetheless)

Speaking of spawning, DerpSilver didnt take on the challenge of an open-er world and expanded the world building, instead they made bandit camps and monster spawners in the most generic sandboxy way possible.Some charitable soul left some literal audio-logs and diaries around but they feel contrived most of the time.

From then on the story is shittier simply by having removed the parading you from place to place, as you only see most of the same characters between acts, and they suffer from being dragged along with the protagonist so they dont have much to add individually that you didnt already know.

The story "happens" as in the previous linear(nothing wrong with being linear) games but this time you get dropped into the map to fuck around for literal weeks if you so please, despite the plot requiring your immediate attention.Not that there is anything to fuck around with, you go to places and you shoot the baddies then shake them for resources for your shitty crafting.

Speaking of crafting, this is just another part that they arsed into the new format for the game with very little care.In the previous metro games a big part of the world-building was the resources, expertise and general getting around and how these things came from people and locations.Now you grab a bottle of stagnant liquid and a telephone guide and mash it into a stimpack or quickly machine some ball bearings or steel crossbow bolts from some rusty cans you found in a bog.

And you do it on the field.

With your hands.

I suppose I should be grateful the game doesnt nag me for micro-transactions in every crafting menu at this point.

It's quite ironic that they put so much effort in faithfully recreating the shittiest part of the generally good previous games,the dual ending.Yes, dual.Not a moral choice either, since evaluating the morals of the choices the developers want for the ending that doesnt feel like a half assed admonishment, would mean they see anyone but motherfucking Jesus Christ as the pinnacle of evil.

You are Artyom ,serial Moscow Metro savior and member of the Order of Sparta, you go around as a one man army of good, fixing every non-saturday-morning-cartoon-villain's life from all manner of problems.You even take some extra ludicrous risks on yourself to make sure everyone is happy…

But OOOOPS, seems you ended up killing a screamy insane motherfucker literally opening fire on you, with the intention of killing/raping/enslaving/taxidermy-ing/feeding-to-a-fish you and everyone you know.

>"Well that just wont do"

-says the game with clenched teeth as it cries sour dungeon master tears and some character you care about gets an anvil dropped onto them, from behind the DM screen.

>"Thorry but thith ith jutht how the thtory goeth, mind your choitheth" *smirk*

Finally, the supernatural creepy stuff has been dropped almost entirely and is literally shoved into the last hour or so of gameplay in what feels like some CUT stuff they had lying around, tacked on at the last minute to tick a box in the Metro checklist.

Come to think about it, the entire game feels like it goes through a checklist, the chapters are inconclusive at best and most of the game is copypasted from "Last Light" and clumsily coerced into a different environment.This is most apparent when you encounter confined levels that stop presenting the hacks the exterior does, like slowing monsters to a crawl or lobotomizing their AI, lest the player walk into an actually hard encounter, and not just a variable drain on their resources.Something that you cannot have happen when your monsters are just infinite "mobs" standing around indestructible spawnpoints or extremely unsubtle random events.

All in all I found it insulting, for this and many other reasons.The more I played, the more I wanted to be done with it.And even then, the game kept piling on disappointments until, and including, the very end.


730bd1  No.16198764

>>16195309

>denuvo

>epic

Well they did everything they could to convince me that pirating this game is only option. Game is fine but due to crafting ammo game is too easy even on hardcore ranger.


832d0d  No.16198860

>>16195269

>buy it on consoles

Are you sick?


525fce  No.16198887

>>16197448

>I thought Exodus was, memes and jewishness aside, a shitty game.

It's not.

But you need to put a big ass disclamer that it has NOTHING to do with the first metro.

It's kind of a "stalker-lite", it's much more about roaming the map and avoiding packs of mutants than about claustrophobic awesomeness and living setpieces of Metro.

It's nowhere as good as a Stalker game either but there is still enough to make it not suck balls.

It's not a god awful ubi-style "open world" "Climb all tower to unlock /you need a bazillion of the same shitty loot", the exploration is largely just you exploring for the kicks of it and either discovering tiny side quests or being rewarded with decent gear upgrades.

>>16198743

That guy hasn't played the game and is just a classic /v/edditor complaining about stuff he's seen in videos and seen in comments.

I got a full good ending (with everyone staying) with going "fuck sneaking" most of the game just by doing the side quests.

The "morality" system doesn't work like people think it does (like in the first game), if you don't go out of your way to be an asshole (IE killing people that are no threat to you) you can't get the bad ending.


fe77d4  No.16198916

>Game gives you so little ammo, you are practically forced to play stealthily against your will, or else you will not be able to survive encounters

Boy I sure love playing stealthily in a franchise where stealth was always absolutely abysmal and boring.

Fuck this game. Long-ass boring introduction and when the game finally begins, you realize that unless you play on easy modo there isn't enough ammo to kill enemies unless you do the shitty badly animated stealth takedowns


ce9858  No.16198987

>>16198887

Funny you say that.

Killed the fish, shot a single cultist. Dukes gets an anvil dropped on his head.The cultists comment on how no one has returned from the terminal in months so they couldnt possibly know the fish is there impaled.Rescued the woman, got the teddy bear from a demon nest stealthily

Met Giul, rescued the slaves, found her picture under a pile of spiders, didnt touch a single slave.Shot two "warrior slaves" that opened fire on me after previously discussing how much they enjoy torturing and killing their fellow tribals. Damir stays behind and presumably gets killed.

Killed the bear, didnt kill a single children or the forest or ever been spotted outside of the scripted events that have them acknowledge you as an example of a "good" "intruder".warned them about the Dam.

Oops, not good enough.Bad Artyom.Dead Artyom

I'm certainly skipping a lot of stuff but I'm sure I covered any negative ones, since the game is very vocal with the effects when you do any of them.

Fuck off, shill.


452b9c  No.16199065

>>16198987

>Play like a brainlet with ADD-COD mentality, get only 1/3 good endings

>Be that salty you come to Bangladesian basket weaving forum to tell others it's the games fault and anyone with different opinion is a shill

Yup, checks out.


ce9858  No.16199094

>>16198887

Also, on top of there being pretty much nothing else to do but go to place shoot the dudes, ocasionally getting an extra full 2 lines of dialog on an scripted "dont shoot" sequence, when you are, in every case told to lower your gun, so no points for finding out yourself… you DO the radio tower thing.

You.

Fucking.

Shill.

In every level except the last ( for obvious reasons) there will be an early sequence, optionally preceded by a linear walk, where you find yourself climbing atop an elevated scouting position with a wide viewing angle and a friendly character.

Said friendly will then start pointing to shit that you are told to look at through your binoculars, at which point it gets marked on your map as a POI.Everything from a hole in the ground with dogs and main objectives.

The friendly character also talks like you ought to be GOBSMACKED at the rendering technology that reduces LOD's when you look through binocular/scopes…

Even though the game consistently fails to do that and is fucking filled with popping textures and sudden low detail LOD's because a pixel wide branch was in your way and it focused on that.

Fuck off shill.


2c874c  No.16199116

>metro games

>good

pick one

>>16198764

>denuvo

>epic

>gameworks*

there fixed


63186f  No.16199122

>>16195330

What got deleted?


d6df6b  No.16199140

>>16198887

>it has NOTHING to do with the first metro

Really? My impression with the game so far and I'm near the end, is that despite the meat of the game is pointlessly running around, every mission and every scripted encounter plays exactly like one in previous games would. A bunch of bandits in deep dark metal corridors and if you look at them funny or go a charging you'll get your head blown off. I really miss my bayonets though.

>>16198987

>>16199094

>i didn't get the good end

>the game must be shit

Artyom died a hero, isn't that enough?


ce9858  No.16199211

File: bb80269a6cd739d⋯.jpg (24.77 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, fuck off, shill.jpg)

>>16199140

>Saves everyone, ever, everywhere.

>Singlehandedly fixes everyone's problems, ever. At the expense of great personal risk and little to no gain.

>Walks around being the personification of altruism.

>Kills literally 3 people that were shooting at him and were moustache-twirling/witches-burning cartoonishly evil.

>Kills a giant mutant fish with a diet of human sacrifices and dead fish cultists.

>Welp, not good enough, should have turned the 100th cheek when the unreasonable crazy people with guns opened fire on you.

>The DM drops an anvil on your head, because his shitty badly constructed narrative didn't play the way he wanted.

I feel like you are making my point for me here.


d6df6b  No.16199245

>>16199211

I can throw the shill calling right back at you. To shill something is to push an agenda. Even when you do it for free, because you suck at a video game or to give you a benefit of a doubt because you simply didn't like how it turned out and have issues to vent. To push a new game and to imply you're getting paid to do so used to be called marketeering etc around these parts. Now, if we're past the buzzword bullshit I hope we can have a nice chat and all.

>Saves everyone, ever, everywhere.

I'm willing to bet you didn't. Mainly because I went out of my way to find out beforehand what actually counts and what's timed after the shitfest that was the last game. I nuked the nigger ones and you can be sure I didn't let that red traitor fuck live. Zero regrets. For example killing the Tzarfish is completely irrelevant despite you essentially completely pulling the rug from under that community. Want another kicker? Killing the Baron also doesn't impact the ending. And just to put it one step further, killing the real, unarmed Baron that never did any harm or directed a threat towards you or your own doesn't count as "bad karma"


ce9858  No.16199290

>>16199245

>Well if I am a shill for demonstrably lying in defense of a product of a company I'm definitely not affiliated with…

>Then you may as well be a shill for pointing objective flaws in a product for no one's gain.

>Also let me point something tangential so it looks like my post has content

>Checkmate atheists

Also yes, you are>>16198887


d6df6b  No.16199317

>>16199290

You know we have IDs on this board, right? And I take it that's a no on having that nice chat?


fad7eb  No.16199355

>>16199245

> I'm willing to bet you didn't. Mainly because I went out of my way to find out beforehand what actually counts and what's timed

Wow, I love having to spoil myself on a game's choices in order to get the food ending.


d6df6b  No.16199382

>>16199355

Quite idiotic design, isn't it? And especially since some of the things you'd expect to matter really don't matter for spit. Again, killing an unarmed possibly mentally ill and crippled old man doesn't register as bad karma. Now the actual gameplay is alright though. The guns feel meaty and not at all like peashooters from the first one and I honestly can't say I hated any of the characters. Blyat, I even liked Krest. The openworld roam and track down all the ??'s format is really, really bad though.


d9c348  No.16199419

>>16198916

This and moral system.

Multiple endings based on moral choices when the beginning is such a schlock.

Problem is what ending will be carried for the next game, if there is a next game at all.

Does it have NG+ ?


d6df6b  No.16199469

>>16199419

The ammo really isn't a problem if you're making your shots count and use throwing knives. The NG+ is probably a dlc thing as per usual for the series.


71c1c0  No.16199488

File: bafa69e7fa425d7⋯.jpg (54.56 KB, 604x539, 604:539, paul.jpg)

>>16195065

A non-lethal takedown is always the most silent takedown.


8ead67  No.16199504

>tfw stealth is a dead genre and all we get is MGSbabby shit


43462a  No.16199642

File: c19e9a18238d57c⋯.jpg (192.66 KB, 602x620, 301:310, c19e9a18238d57c0b173e018b7….jpg)

>>16199140

>Artyom died a hero, isn't that enough?

No. The problem is the "bad" ending is poorly written. In the first two games either ending fit very well with the tone of the rest of the story. Hell, most people favor the bad end in Last Light. But Exodus? The game grabs you by the shoulders and tells you that you screwed up and you should boot up a fresh play though and try again. A character literally looks at Artyom and says "I thought you were fated to take a different path."

Of course, the whole story feels bland to me. Russian writing has always had a very strong theme of spirituality to it. Exodus stripped all that out except for what the writers crammed into the bad ending. Now it just feels like generic mad max clone.


adb819  No.16199671

File: 6b19bb4976d6142⋯.jpg (53.28 KB, 462x558, 77:93, 1516590440739.jpg)

>>16199642

>Russian writing

>Spirituality

The guy who wrote the Metro-books literally went to university in Tel-aviv, and the 3rd book which this is based off of is the most secular "let's all get along, RACISM BAD, TRADITIONS BAD" pieces of shit I've ever had the displeasure of reading, hell, even the second book was pretty bad, the first book has it's moments, but I'm wholly convinced it was a fluke; Even A song of ice and fire is less cucked than these books, which is saying something, since George RR is a communist faggot.


4b3212  No.16199733

File: 6bcb83a609e04ae⋯.jpg (25.17 KB, 500x375, 4:3, please_reconnect_please.jpg)

>>16199642

>Hell, most people favor the bad end in Last Light

Thinking bout this, did Exodus just ignore both LL endings ? Were is Arthyom's toodler ?

Wouldnt the Dark Ones end up fucking up the scheme to keep Russia isolated ? This entiry jamming/isolation plot felt like a hack job

Exodus felt like a side-game that didnt need Artyom as the MC at all, for not translating well the consequences and endings of both previous games.


fe77d4  No.16200303

>>16199469

>The ammo really isn't a problem if you're making your shots count and use throwing knives

<monsters take 3-5 headshots to kill

<there are 12+ of them

<you begin with like 60 bullets

<you barely get any ammo by scavenging half the map

<you lose more ammo than you can find


99c447  No.16200322

>>16195065

Look at this top tier thread boys


525fce  No.16200888

File: 122307d4c72aee4⋯.webm (2.73 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, (you).webm)

>>16199290

>>16198987

>>16199094

>>16199211

>>16198743

>Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a shill.

I can't tell if you're butthurt because you don't know how to play vidya or just trolling.

Anyway have a you and fuck off, sperg.

>>16199733

>This entiry jamming/isolation plot felt like a hack job

It is, the whole plot is fucking retarded. But then again so was Last Light.

If they had been less retarded the least they could have done would have been to swap the last zone and Yamantau plot-wise.

As in "There is an automated signal coming from Yamantau" with the Colonel being the only one to know what he means as he was an officer during the war (a bit of Monolith coding would have been nice, hell Wasteland 2 has some!) and it's a rally point, you go there same situation with all kind of vehicles but the bunkers weirdly intact and then you reuse the Kremlin anomaly thing that was in the first books but is only mentioned in the first vidya (in Moscow the Kremlin is intact but it was hit by "a biological weapon", there is a blob monster that lure people psychically looking at the Kremlin and then eat them"), so we would have a nice bit of weirdness for the same results and you had bits on how the thing didn't happened instantly so the Moscow's Command indeed received orders for a while (including those to "hide" the city to avoid another strike. It makes sense if it's an order that came down almost immediately after and that with the jamming they would be cut off from Yamantau so Moscow command had free reign, but need to keep the jamming up until Yamantau gives the all clear. Note that the command post in Caspian had similar orders to play dead. And suddenly the plot is not "evil Hansa is evil BECAUSE").

Instead you get stupid cannibals that had food for three months… but the radiation is still Moscow level bad out of the bunker 20 years afters… And they somehow got food regularly? And when the first convoy arrived they didn't you know… fuck off from the bunker with nothing to eat in the middle of nowhere to go scavenge? Nope, their first idea is to eat people instead???

It's completely retarded.

Now you swap it around and you put your cannibals into the Novosibirsk Metro and you paint the whole thing as what is gonna eventually happen to Moscow (and has in fact already started in the books) with the security guys being the local Spartan Order that did protect the metro of everything… except the humans in it.

It might still be shit but at least it would make sense overarching story-wise.


a26e97  No.16200980

I SAY COME BUT SHE AT THE HOTEL

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aa0b73  No.16201202

>people actually complaining about ammo availability

>made it to Taiga being entirely capped on ammo with the vest upgrade that lets you hold more of it

>shot a fuckton of bandit scum and muties

Confirmed for idiots using terrible weapons/setups, playing on shitty difficulties, and/or using controllers to aim. The game has actual problems like the shit stealth, tedious moral system, and fuckawful AI. How you find the ammo something to bitch about though is fucking beyond me.


c8e5ce  No.16201212

File: 5f3ae37ac3ed331⋯.jpg (27.61 KB, 480x792, 20:33, 5f3ae37ac3ed331f8598ec8d8f….jpg)

>this low 0 effort thread gets bumped

cuckchan really shat up the place fuck me


9a3acb  No.16201224

File: 030a31f2d2980d2⋯.png (1.01 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16201212

>everything is cuckchan

Take your meds


89c35d  No.16201338

>>16200888

First two metro games were borderline horror games. If Yamantau had been iradiated wasteland full of wierd shit and crazy mutant monster hutting thoes who comes near it would have set tone of survival way better. Miller could have know there is some kind survival plan/kit inside bunker that they need to revive. it would contain location of bunkers and suply depots and other useful thing. From there you go from important location to location in search for place to live.


eb8481  No.16201444

I pirated it and beat it in maybe 3 days because I had to go to work. I got the good end.

Killed some cultists but stopped when they surrendered. I didn't kill anyone that was unarmed. I failed killing the fish, didn't even know what that contraption was suppose to be for I just pressed stuff the fish came up and it fucking missed.

In the desert i just fucked around, stealthed my way through most of it when the Baron invited me into his home I punched a guy beating a slave and got away with it so when one started beating on a whore I tried it again and they all went apeshit.

Foresty Lake Dam place I kept getting caught which sucked cause I didn't want to kill them as much as I did. It took them forever to surrender. Had a talk with the Admiral and got sad, his friends all abandoned him, he was the manliest of them all.

The last part of the game was alright. A neat metro sequence horrible leech spitting snake things pissed me off, I'm just trying to ow my ass away man, fuck off. High radiation land was alright, didn't like how none of the aliems there did anything interesting but be creepy. Fuck the Gorillas, at one point during a QTE cutscene thing all I got to see was gorilla penis.

In conclusion it was alright. I didn't bother getting most of the upgrades because I didn't feel like exploring the world since the locations I did go to were not interesting enough to warrant further exploration, however I do suggest looking up where they are and getting them. I could have had more bullets, longer filters, stronger gas mask, stuff like that so it makes it harder but its still quite doable. They're all basically in the first open world map you get to explore. Apparently your friends can die off or leave you based on your actions. I've no idea exactly what effects it but none of that happened to me and I got what was considered the good end and I did the bare minimum.


eb8481  No.16201454

>>16201444

Honestly though I didn't much care for the plot. I don't remember much of what happened in Last Light but just fucking off leaving the Metro in isolation to go start new lives elsewhere was kinda dumb. Yeah they settled on it after the cannibals where the gubment was suppose to be but you spent so much time saving people in the metro it feels wrong just to leave it. I was hoping the game was about gathering allies to go take back the metro from hanza or whatever dickbag was responsible for keeping people isolated.


aa0b73  No.16201481

>>16201454

I was actually kinda glad that the story was just them fucking off and doing their own thing. I'm tired of saving the god damn world in every vidya. Wouldn't surprise me if the next game was more about what you wanted though.


eb8481  No.16201499

>>16201481

Yeah I get what you mean and it might be, or they're go in an entirely different direction. I need to figure out what happened in Last Light cause I totally fucking forgot everything about that game.


5e25be  No.16201508

>>16195120

Anon, just pirate it.

I did that as soon as the crack came out.

Its an okay game but I NEED to play the first 2 games to get a handle on things properly.


aa0b73  No.16201511

>>16201499

Basically, the Red Line tried to take over the metro by gassing Nazis and attacking D6, and you had to stop them. At least I'm pretty sure that's the gist of it.


c81ce3  No.16201529

>>16199671

>who is Dostoyevsky


313edd  No.16201572

File: a801fd4dfde8c6c⋯.gif (26.46 KB, 265x199, 265:199, 4chan b yelled.gif)


3f0c61  No.16201801

>>16200303

I didn't play on the muh leet difficulty but one below, and one headshot from a revolver or a tihir WILL drop anything smaller than a demon or a bandit heavy. Knife to the back also does the job.

>>16199642

I don't see anything especially bad about going I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me. What's more, this one is based around waifufaggotry and you dying so your pregnant female may live is to me at least more acceptable than you dying so some bug eye'd nigger mutant may live.


c9f0ec  No.16201831

>>16198743

> would mean they see anyone but motherfucking Jesus Christ as the pinnacle of evil

I liked that in Last Light so much.

>game constantly shits on you for nuking the Dark Ones even though it's shown time and again they did instigate attacks on the humans in the Metro, whether willingly or not, and were a threat

>game punishes you if you slit the throat of a traitor that stole bioweapons to the commies and killed a bunch of your fellow Spartans

>game punishes you if you leave the other commie that betrayed you to die after he orchestrated the shoah of a whole station using weaponized Ebola, resulting in the deaths of every innocent man, woman and child

>game punishes you for killing the commie death squads sent after you trying to stop you from letting the commies gas the whole fucking Metro

What sort of cuck wrote this bullshit? Why the fuck should a player get punished for giving the Reds a taste of their own medicine?


0557cf  No.16201876

>>16201831

Goy's or Jews that think doing anything proactive or doing anything "harmful" means that your a bad goy and get worst ending. Hell, it's a small mercy that they didn't go full fucking cuckboy mode and replaced the Hansa with the Fourth Reich, I was half-expecting that honestly.

Game fucking sucks anyways, godawful plotline which just destroys anything the games actually had going for it in terms of plot, and only decent thing is gunplay.


ad34d4  No.16201911

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>2033's ending is dependent on whether Artyom expresses a greater understanding of the world around him like listening in on conversations, not murdering indiscriminately and being kind to the everyman, leading to him giving the dark ones a chance, or only focuses on the mission at hand and thus ends up bombing them (because that was what he came there to do)

>last light's ending is dependent on whether you teach the little dark one empathy or not, if you don't shoot every mutant you see it learns that humanity can be saved despite them nuking his people, and thus he comes to save you in the 'good' ending (and focuses on his own people like you yourself did the entire game in the 'bad' ending)

>exodus's endings are just dependent on whether you bothered to stealth through plot sections to make sure your crewmates didn't die or not, only difference being that Artyom either dies or gets to live (and gets to be the leader of the rangers because of course)


10859e  No.16201924

>>16198743

>Finally, the supernatural creepy stuff has been dropped almost entirely and is literally shoved into the last hour or so of gameplay in what feels like some CUT stuff they had lying around, tacked on at the last minute to tick a box in the Metro checklist.

There's no supernatural shit at the end either, just some basic hallucinations induced by taking in WAY too much radiation.

There are like 3 places in the game where you see what look like ghosts. Maybe that's what you are talking about at the end but it's literally one train car there. There's a house in the middle of the water in the first open world level that does the same shit and I think there was one more somewhere else in the game. None of that really counts as far as I'm concerned though, it doesn't do anything that can't be explained by more hallucinations.


c9f0ec  No.16201925

>>16201911

>you teach the little dark one empathy or not

You teach him how to be a cuck, since the "good" ending is entirely reliant on whether you spare both commie traitors/mass murderers, despite the game giving you no reason to feel empathy for either of them. Somehow the game equates commie fucks slaughtering their own indiscriminately and with full knowledge of what they are doing with Artyom killing the Dark Ones due to a misunderstanding/inability to communicate.

It's pure fence-shitting schlock. The best you can say about Last Light is that at least the Nazis aren't the bad guys.


c9f0ec  No.16201931

>>16201925

And just to add, the game likes to pretend what Artyom did (nuking an apparently existential threat that the Metro inhabitants will wipe out the last remnants of the human race) to what the commies are doing (planning to gas the entire Metro after they take over D6) is equally bad.


bd36cd  No.16201949

>>16198987

The bad ending is the better ending anyway, artyom dies saving his wife. I prefer how he and Miller both die, it's a lot more realistic. I like sad endings better

>>16199094

>first tower is a crane you walk up

>second tower is a lighthouse with an elevator

>third tower is a tower you climb up with an elevator too I think? might have been stairs

>EVERYONE IS A SHILL FOR DEFENDING A GAME THEY ENJOYED XD

Fucking christ anon, neck yourself already.

>>16199140

It plays like the previous games but the lack of a metro really bothered me, that's the issue I think. Other than that the games fine.

>>16199733

The dark one(s) save Artyom at the last minute, so you either die and Anna has a baby or you live and there's no baby because ???

>>16201202

The fucking air gun is literally the best gun in the game, practically unlimited ammo for that shit.


3f0c61  No.16201967

>>16201949

Nah, the crossbow is even better. Too bad the fucks locked it till the end of the game.

>It plays like the previous games

I miss being able to manually aim my knives, to drag bodies around and most importantly I miss my bastard using the AR ammo. Why would they make it use fucking magnum in this one?


10859e  No.16201968

>>16201967

I kept the crossbow even after I got the railgun upgrade for the air gun (miller tells you to take his railgun right before you split up), so I don't know how powerful the railgun is in the final area especially against the librarians. I think it's probably better than the crossbow though.

I'd really like a NG+ mode that let me play through with my unlocked weapons and attachments. I tried to edit a save for that but I couldn't get it to work.


10859e  No.16201970

>>16201967

What do you mean "manually aim your knives"? They throw where you point, use a scoped gun and hit the throw button while aiming with the scope for best results.


bd36cd  No.16201973

>>16201967

Crossbow was shit for me. You can manually aim the knives though? Just look at the enemy and click worked fine for me. I dont remember being able to drag bodies, I haven't played the previous games in god knows how long though

>using a bastard

What is wrong with you?

>>16201968

>librarians

Those monkeys were librarians? I thought they were just big mutated apes, the librarians from the first game looked a lot less ape like.


10859e  No.16201981

>>16201973

I assume they are librarians because:

>Librarians are basically monstrous gorillas, and described as such in all the games

>Librarians are the toughest non-boss monsters you encounter in Metro

Maybe they are something different but related, but I'm going with Librarian until proven otherwise.


3f0c61  No.16201982

>>16201973

Silenced bastard is the weapon in the first game.

>no recoil

>perfect accuracy

>silent

>same damage as the akm or abk

>fastest reload speed in the game if you unload whole clip

You could manually aim the knives in the first one. And they didn't behave like instakill, either. Also you could definitely move bodies, even booby trap them or set up ambushes.


bd36cd  No.16201986

>>16201981

I think they're similar but worse in every case, librarians can barely speak but the apes were using fucking telepathy to tell you they were hungry. Would make sense given how much radiation was in that city compared to Moscow.

>>16201982

I always hated that weapon, it felt terrible to use in my opinion. I also had a bad habit of pressing R and reloading the entire clip and using up all of my ammo even when I didn't need to reload.

Looked it up and you can't move bodies, not sure what you're thinking about but it's not metro.


10859e  No.16201988

>>16201981

>>16201986

Ok I was wrong, wiki calls them blind ones and mentions some key differences.

In any case, 8 crossbow bolts to the face is more than enough to kill one. I still wonder how the railgun fairs.


f7fa9f  No.16201997

I'm playing it right now (desert part) and it sucks. The open world segments take any kind of atmosphere out and make it unnecessary drawn out. The first part was like Stalker without any kind of horror, the equipment babysitting is super annoying, the story segments are plenty and striped out of any meaningful interaction (just a walking sim), shooting sucks because hit detection feels off, weapons jam, and it's too dark too to enjoy anything, the added components collecting shit gets old fast, the Anna bitch is flat out annoyingly out of place, and despite playing on the hardest difficulty, it's way easier than the first Metro (so far). I'm glad when I'm done with this boring slog.


c9f0ec  No.16202001

>>16201986

>I always hated that weapon

I hate the look of it too. SMGs are some of the easiest guns to make from a mechanical perspective, doubly so if you have access to proper machinery. The main challenge is making ammunition that has the same amount of propellant in each bullet to ensure proper cycling of the mechanism.

Overheating on an open bolt design shouldn't be that much of an issue, and they should be able to copy WW2 designs, so I have no fucking idea why they're busy making ghetto-tier garbage.

>Looked it up and you can't move bodies

A game with stealth mechanics this prominent where you're unable to move the bodies is a fucking travesty. Then again, the stealth in Metro is so shit it makes Far Cry 3 look like a masterpiece.


525fce  No.16202178

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16201338

>it would contain location of bunkers and supply depots and other useful thing.

I don't dislike the premise that the colonel want to go there to explain that the whole thing was a clusterfuck and that they're not traitors, it's a nice insight in the old man character that still cling to the idea the Russian military still exist and is all his life.

It's just poor use of a great material.

For example the Monolith messages are the infamously "spooky number station thing" is the thing the Russian army uses to broadcast orders when in radio silence.

It's a fairly foolproof system of pre-disseminated orders that use simple call signs and code words and a simple auth key that is broadcasted in clear, it doesn't matter who is listening, because unless you have no way to know what the code word exactly refers to without physical spies in the command structure.

This alone could wash away half the stupidity of the plot: first every surviving installation of the Russian military gets an order to play dead (explain Moscow, the Caspian, possibly Novossibirsk) and as long as the "all clear" code word isn't given the guys in Moscow think they're still at war.

Second there is a later rally message (for mobile units) at Yamantau (asking for help whether it be from cannibals or psy monster/weapon).

So the plot would be: find some place to live, then find a way to broadcast the all clear (and make a rally point at the place to live, you don't even have to go back to Moscow).

Which give you plenty of reasons to go risk your life into old Russian installations and travel around.


198678  No.16202214

File: 586792dfa7328fe⋯.jpg (1.47 MB, 3000x1687, 3000:1687, f44417a846d3bf9b2cf4b8431f….jpg)

For some reason the pirated PC version is less buggy than the shitty console versions. I encountered no bugs using a repack except a few graphical oddities with lighting and LODs, but the PS4 version is apparently so broken you cant even finish some sections.


142c94  No.16202219

File: 9865d22c9df6b0a⋯.webm (2.55 MB, 640x360, 16:9, ruby the rabbit.webm)

Whatever, it's a bad Metro game, story is absolute shit and you can see the plot twist coming from a mile hehe away. They tried to fix the morality system a bit and it shows, don't know how successful they were, but you don't have to be that much of a saint any more.

>>16199245

>And just to put it one step further, killing the real, unarmed Baron that never did any harm or directed a threat towards you or your own doesn't count as "bad karma"

That's not the real Baron, it's a slave with amnesia, i couldn't get the Easter egg dialog to trigger so i threw a can at his face, to see if his script needed a little nudge, and coincidentally it made him "remember" he's a double set up by Saul to catch the lighthouse bitch. Also if you look at his face you can see he uses the same deformed model the slaves use.

You can not kill the other Baron? i killed fucking everyone in that area.

webm not related


5a095f  No.16202269

Daily reminder the Metro novels are written by a teen kike, who lives between russia and israel. The dark ones succeeding humanity is just a celebration of white genocide.


bfc20a  No.16202277

>>16202269

Why does only shit get translated and relased to the world?

>jewish revenge fantasy Metro

>asshurt socialist cuckold fantasy Witcher


464c06  No.16202363

Any game with press "x" to kill is too easy

I did a run only killing the enemies the games forces you to because becaue being a gud boy is the trigger for the alternate ending in this franchise

But now im plying killing every single motherfucker with the loudest gun possible, and it becomes a much better game


138f61  No.16202386

File: c6abda2afd195f6⋯.jpg (6.76 KB, 235x220, 47:44, c6abda2afd195f676bec638479….jpg)

>>16202277

Isn't it obvious anon, who do you think controls the publishing companies.


3f0c61  No.16204146

>>16201986

>Looked it up and you can't move bodies

You can 1000%. Mind you, I'm talking about the actual first metro, sans the dlc or the port from two. The first game that had enemies wear gear on top of their other gear so a knife throw or a shot to a grenade he has hanging on his belt could potentially detonate it or at least deflect, or his head light being a separate light source you had to destroy or risk detection.

>using up all of my ammo even when I didn't need to reload

Now it's time for me to ask you what game have you played. The leftover bullets in the clip are saved and not lost a'lla dead space 2 in every metro I've played and I've played them all.


3f0c61  No.16204168

>>16202219

>That's not the real Baron

Nope, you're wrong. The slaves are tartar/asiatic for one, second the character entry log in the intermission segment on the train changes depending on whether you've killed both or just one baron. Finally you get additional dialogue from both Damir and the radio station depending on whether you iced both Barons. As stupid as it is that was the real Baron. And just for the sake of argument, how does it make sense that you drive towards the bad karma end shooting armed slaves willing to shoot first at you but it's completely ambiguous to shoot a delirious slave?


acd510  No.16205370

>>16201925

Maybe I misunderstood it but wasn't the point with Pavel was that he really didn't mean any ill will towards you but was fully committed/brainwashed to follow his commie leaders? Even when you're arrested he doesn't mention anything about torturing you but hoping you can be convinced to join them.


09c964  No.16206296

>>16204168

>Two Barons

>One is fake

What the fuck did i miss? Where's the fake one? I only saw one Baron, and Anna put a bullet in his brain. Damir came with me to the Aurora.


c9f0ec  No.16206308

>>16205370

>no ill will

>betrays you and leaves you to be gruesomely tortured and executed

>but was fully committed/brainwashed to follow his commie leaders

He was just a soulless, amoral piece of shit like every other Marxist in existence. Need I remind you this is the guy that fully commits to a plot to kill every non-commie fanatic in the Metro with weaponized Ebola? For what possible reason does he deserve mercy? For "saving" Artyom in his bid to escape? For using and betraying him afterwards? Is there a single redeeming quality to this faggot?

>he doesn't mention anything about torturing you

Yeah, he just didn't notice all the torture devices strewn around the room.

>but hoping you can be convinced to join them

Like he'd join another faction if asked nicely. He knows Artyom won't betray the Rangers. He's leaving him to die a slow and painful death.


d98685  No.16206631

>>16202214

Tomboys are more gay than futa.

you're literally jerking off to BL, but with a vagina.


525fce  No.16206635

>>16206296

On a interest point down the cliff where the rig is, there is a non-hostile NPC that is the baron in hiding.

Basically he explain that he expected Saul guys to team up/manipulate the witch to assassinate him (which is exactly what Saul explain to you).

So instead he's letting her "win", he expects her to "liberate the slaves"… but what will the slaves do once they're free to starve and die? The first reason why the kazakhs sold THEMSELVES into slavery to the riggers was because the riggers were still making fuel and selling it for food and supplies.

So he has placed enough loyal slaves and lieutenants that will go in hiding, and spread the idea that things were better under the baron (because they likely will be) and pray the Eternal Flame for his return, and then he will comeback "reborn by the eternal flame" has a messianic leader.

If you don't kill him you don't get the message of the witch "spreading freedom" after the caspian.


142c94  No.16206690

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>>16204168

>Nope, you're wrong. The slaves are tartar/asiatic for one,

Check that face again, see how it has metal stitches like the rest of the slaves.

>Second the character entry log in the intermission segment on the train changes depending on whether you've killed both or just one baron. Finally you get additional dialogue from both Damir and the radio station depending on whether you iced both Barons.

About the witch "spreading freedom" like what >>16206635 said?

Got me there can't argue with that yeah. I also didn't get Saul to appear again after knocking him out, so i didn't know about the extra secret plan that sounds more like a gamble.

>As stupid as it is that was the real Baron.

I don't know man, it's all too weird, dude's just sitting there with mannequins that act as "guards" that he addresses to as real people, while his hiding place is a fucking hole in the wall?

>And just for the sake of argument, how does it make sense that you drive towards the bad karma end shooting armed slaves willing to shoot first at you but it's completely ambiguous to shoot a delirious slave?

I have no idea, it feels as if he was meant to be something else that was scraped during development, like most of the plot points, he makes no fucking sense being there, at least to me.

So i guess you're right, he could be the real Baron but it feels retarded.


525fce  No.16206972

>>16206690

>that sounds more like a gamble.

It's also a fact that the slave are starting to revolt, you can find a guy that tried to led a revolt near the water spring. There are other mentions of it, the whole thing with the witch is setup to be a catalyst, Saul tells you he would have gone to save her if you didn't show up.

So things were brewing before you showed up, and the idea to have the revolt in a fairly controlled fashion (rather than uncontrolled) and then show up to miraculously "rescue" the Caspian kind off makes sense.

>I don't know man, it's all too weird, dude's just sitting there with mannequins that act as "guards" that he addresses to as real people

That's the thing, there is no doubt he's going insane/senile hence why Saul is plotting against him and possibly why the "fake" baron assumed his place. Which is also possibly why the whole seem insane: the guy that hatched the plan isn't the sanest person around.

If you shoot the "guards" or try to hurt him a little he will tell you that he's lying and that now he remembers he's the double, but that sound like something he's making up on the moment for you not to kill him.

Also if you use your lighter, he give you stuff mentioning that you're right to worship the eternal flame (as in he actually believes in his own bullshit, which is what he told you before, he came up with it but in the end it's not a bad thing to believe in).

The whole is clearly meant to be confusing as fuck, however as you don't get karma loss for killing him and he does seem to get back in control if you don't so I think he is the real baron.

That's the kind of shit that makes me not to want to discard the game entirely as a bad game, there is actual depth to the exploration and interaction part of it.

Sure the payoff is minimal but it's how I think exploration-based gameplay works the best, in the tiny but neat details.


616170  No.16207355

>>16202214

That picture is literally and figuratively perfect


09b505  No.16207384

This is pretty realistic tough.


d35579  No.16208254

File: 8a1121604644cf4⋯.jpg (311.27 KB, 506x900, 253:450, wouldclimb.jpg)

>>16206690

He is the real baron and it is retarded.

>it has metal stitches

He's not asiatic or has retard asiatic speech pattern. He's just an old fart, past his prime and with an Iznogud as second in command.

>>16206631

There's nothing gay about liking girls with short hair, that can handle power tools, guns, hard liquor and or engine grease stains on their overalls that get flustered when you put them in a dress or call them pretty. You, fucking, cunt.


474de9  No.16208322

File: 7374072efb1d346⋯.jpg (101.75 KB, 619x761, 619:761, take_the_tomboy_pill.jpg)

>>16206631

>tomboys are more gay than futa


1b3099  No.16208357

File: b2b57a5eeac53d5⋯.jpg (77.61 KB, 478x487, 478:487, Go back.jpg)


474de9  No.16208398

>>16208357

>muh 4um


dc6e47  No.16208425

>>16206631

Are you fuckin retarded


d98685  No.16208479

>>16208254

>I want to date a man who will jerk me off with a vagina

>>16208322

>mobile screencap

>>>/4um/

>>>/exitbag/

>>16208425

no u.


d98685  No.16208532

>>16208522

>having sex with someone more masculine than you isn't gay.

>Projecting sodomy on top of being a retarded nigger


d35579  No.16208536

File: 9bc4683ebcb158d⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 59.37 KB, 600x699, 200:233, drye6.jpg)

>>16208479

Your bait is nigger tier and so are you.


d98685  No.16208552

>>16208541

>calls me a jew

>while following and defending online a jewish inversion of norms

>>16208536

sick lack of arguments.


954026  No.16208557

>>16199504

kys Bead67


5e676f  No.16208559

>its another absolute "if it has a vagina its okay retard" vs "femininity counts retard" derailment


954026  No.16208560

>>16208532

if it has a pussy it isnt gay. Stop being a fag like Bead67.


24f32f  No.16208563

File: 6135bc0f87f000a⋯.png (304.74 KB, 774x543, 258:181, Christmas cake abuse.png)

>>16198743

>Finally, the supernatural creepy stuff has been dropped almost entirely and is literally shoved into the last hour

not even going to pirate then.


0df853  No.16208600

>>16208322

Tomboys are boring and often have short hair.

Girly girls are best.


24f32f  No.16208603

>>16201949

>The dark one(s) save Artyom at the last minute, so you either die and Anna has a baby or you live and there's no baby because ???

wait, there is no baby? artyom is not a father in this game?

da fuck?!


e7d8e9  No.16208611

File: efb8f8876dfc285⋯.jpg (68.68 KB, 633x594, 211:198, Crate full of hentai.jpg)

>>16206631

That's just like saying Aras are pure.


5e676f  No.16208666

File: 0952a1c3074a4e2⋯.png (14.33 KB, 455x306, 455:306, boxxy.png)

>>16208322

get this cuckchan filth out of here

captcha and my digits say fuck off back to 4cuck


2670e7  No.16208717

>>16201831

>What sort of cuck wrote this bullshit? Why the fuck should a player get punished for giving the Reds a taste of their own medicine?

"Force answers force." you want to break the cycle? Your going to have to be better then fucking commies.

>game constantly shits on you for nuking the Dark Ones even though it's shown time and again they did instigate attacks on the humans in the Metro, whether willingly or not, and were a threat

<They were trying to communicate with you. Arytom unknowingly nuked them out of fear and enacted the deepest betrayal because he was afraid. You were a coward.

>game punishes you if you slit the throat of a traitor that stole bioweapons to the commies and killed a bunch of your fellow Spartans

<Because he was your brother and at your mercy. Kinslayers go to trial and are made examples of or exiled to live in fear, not slain in cold blood.

>game punishes you if you leave the other commie that betrayed you to die after he orchestrated the shoah of a whole station using weaponized Ebola, resulting in the deaths of every innocent man, woman and child

<Because he was in a similar position to you last game and leaving him there would be a fate worse then death. The guy honestly believes he's doing what's right and your literally shown it's torturing him from inside out.

>game punishes you for killing the commie death squads sent after you trying to stop you from letting the commies gas the whole fucking Metro

<It was in your hands. You had the power to not kill them and defeating them on a whole other level. The Red Line is full of endless fresh recruits, a few martyrs wouldn't do shit, but crushing their spirits, shaming their greatest warriors by defeating them and letting them live strikes a new fear in they're hearts.

The moral of the story is that the same level of thinking that caused World War III cannot solve the problems of the metro. Artyom is a Messiah.

>>16198743

Kind of this.

The first open world is great, rewards you for not dabbing on cultists who you could easy slaughter(some of them won't attack if you lower your gun), has interesting areas to explore, monster behaviors carry over from other games so I was able to figure them out a little easier, and the more linear parts are still fun.

The linear level right after is pretty fucking cathartic because you get to mow down a bunch of cannibals and when Miller says: "I'll kill you all" he wasn't fucking joking.

The second open world is okay. Still some interesting locations and bandits surrender to you if you clock most of their squad. The zombies will hide and be camouflaged by the sand, but you can spot them if your looking.

Last "Open" area isn't really that, but you find a faction you have a good reason not to slaughter if you notice some stuff. I liked the admiral. Your probably the last person to see him ever.

The last level is just a linear jaunt, but the "Supernatural" bit at the end is actually Arytom listening in on a hivemind of librarian like creatures. They're stalking you and at the same time you can hear they're thoughts

The ending is determined by How many guys are around to give you blood at the end. Duke will get killed by cultists if you shoot them up because they'll attack you when you cross the bridge, Dimir will leave if you don't free slaves and he feels his people need him, Alyosa gets crippled by a mob of forest people if you killed they're guys So I think it made a lot of sense similar to why Last Light ended the way it did. Pretty much 6/10.


7de2fd  No.16208741

File: f303434c97be82d⋯.png (104.93 KB, 422x357, 422:357, too intelligent ryder.png)

>>16208717

<They were trying to communicate with you. Arytom unknowingly nuked them out of fear and enacted the deepest betrayal because he was afraid. You were a coward.

If Artyom was a coward, they were retarded. They tried to communicated, and it always ended with them killing the humans. At some point they should have figured out it would be more prudent to stop. What did they expect to happen?

<Because he was your brother and at your mercy. Kinslayers go to trial and are made examples of or exiled to live in fear, not slain in cold blood.

Why? You seem to be under the dillusion that killing is never justified. What warrants it, if not betrayal, mass murder, and being an accomplice to genocide?

<Because he was in a similar position to you last game and leaving him there would be a fate worse then death. The guy honestly believes he's doing what's right and your literally shown it's torturing him from inside out.

He betrayed your trusts, hands you over to be tortured and probably executed after you saved his live numerous times. You think he didn't know what he was doing to Artyom? He knew, and he chose to go along with it. He could have very easily just let you go and later claimed to have escaped on his own. But no.

<It was in your hands. You had the power to not kill them and defeating them on a whole other level. The Red Line is full of endless fresh recruits, a few martyrs wouldn't do shit, but crushing their spirits, shaming their greatest warriors by defeating them and letting them live strikes a new fear in they're hearts.

No, it doesn't. In all likelihood you'd just be painted as weak an morally bankrupt, and the survivors would be lionized anyway.

ld;dr you seem to think that killing is never justified and that everyone deserves mercy, like some faggy MC in shonenshit.


d36464  No.16208754

>>16208398

>4um

What the fuck is this?


10859e  No.16208763

>>16208717

>I liked the admiral. Your probably the last person to see him ever.

The girl visits him, and she's the one responsible for getting everyone to move out of the valley. I don't think she left him behind. They DO move out, if you listen to the radio after that level you find a transmission from some bandits talking about the forest people all moving out together and slaughtering the bandits in their way.


e594be  No.16208820

>>16208559

Which side are you on?


d98685  No.16208832

>>16208717

>Your going to have to be better then fucking commies.

<if you kill your enemy you win

<you unite people by being a weak pushover faggot, but with a moral highground

that's how you get your face bashed in.


2670e7  No.16208842

File: 305645f55cf6759⋯.jpg (159.02 KB, 700x2000, 7:20, For What Is Right.jpg)

>>16208741

>You seem to be under the dillusion that killing is never justified.

No, it's just not my choice to make.

If someone comes to kill me, then they have killed themselves.

If a group of thugs threaten the innocent then they have chosen death.

But if I have someone at my mercy and they haven't chosen to die then I will not kill them, I will take them and have them punished by a law derived from pure principles.

You can spare your enemies to show the Dark One that there is another way, that we aren't doomed to cycles, that you are better.

If you killed everyone in Last Light it would change nothing. The Red Line would eventually re-populate and war breaks out again.

Only weak-willed faggots kill, I just send evil on it's way.


d98685  No.16208854

>>16208842

>If someone comes to kill me, then they have killed themselves.

Impressive pilpul for a subhuman, but you're no ghandi, he came up with "renounce violence and rape but it's not violence and rape when WE do it"


2670e7  No.16208871

File: 666904c0a9fcd59⋯.jpg (130.36 KB, 500x480, 25:24, 666904c0a9fcd590806d6a5907….jpg)

>>16208854

>Impressive pilpul for a subhuman, but you're no ghandi, he came up with "renounce violence and rape but it's not violence and rape when WE do it"

I'm sorry, I forgot autistic people had trouble understanding language.

It's not murder if you kill someone trying to kill you.

It's not murder if you kill a group trying to kill innocents.

But if you have the choice or someone surrenders to you, then you should accept that surrender and have them punished by the purest justice.


d36464  No.16208906

File: cd2ca522a97d309⋯.jpg (84.68 KB, 1193x732, 1193:732, YE0Hlg3.jpg)

Has anyone tried this patch that's supposed to update the cracked 1.0.0.0 version to the latest 1.0.0.2?

Or are everyone here buyfags?


d98685  No.16208908

>>16208871

You're digging yourself deeper as an illiterate subhuman who can't distinguish between "killing" and "murder"

On a second thought, you're more of a redditor who pretends to be smarter than he really is.


2670e7  No.16208941

File: 144dc4768dd3275⋯.jpg (22.46 KB, 216x330, 36:55, x216.jpg)

>>16208908

I'm Christian and live by a law that says "Thou shalt not kill", but by that law letting others cause death is out of the question.

Cognitive Dissonance shall not tempt me Satan.


5e676f  No.16208942

>>16208741

>No, it doesn't. In all likelihood you'd just be painted as weak an morally bankrupt, and the survivors would be lionized anyway.

This, but also that the reds would probably just say he killed 4 gorillion fascists and just happened to pass out after killing the last one. Not like there were any witnesses other than that nigger that fucks off in the end so not like you can even use his memory as evidence like some sort of small, black robocop that will only save YOU in return if you smoke bongs, spare communists, squander valuable currency while on an important mission, and generally act like a complete fucking degenerate.

The only valid argument for saving him really is that IF he became disillusioned with communism he could be useful. Too bad that he might then just become a pacifist fuck like Artyom instead of going full REMOVE REDS.

>>16208820

My take is that it is a four-pronged road with the key being degeneracy level

>has a vagina but is essentially hulk hogan with a tattoo fucking you in the ass with a strap-on

fucking gay and degenerate, you might not catch AIDS but you cannot do that and call yourself a man. This is about as degenerate as straight up faggotry

>some dude who puts on a skirt when he hooks up on gay sites weekly

you are 100% gay

>wholesome tomboy, who being a tomboy can get away with being slightly more male-y than traps, but isn't too much - still has a loveable heart

go for it my man

>wholesome housewife trap who tries their best and is always like that in personality

go for it my man

>none of it matters only the vagina - not caring about wholesome hand holding and headpats because you only want to screw

why would ANY of this matter then? why would you want it to be a tomboy and not just a regular girl? you're already a fucking degenerate so the only logical explanation as to why you don't want it to be a faggot is because you're secretly an insecure bitch - gas yourself

In short either one of you is gay and the other a degenerate, or neither of you are gay.

DISCLAIMER: if you let the trap rail you, you are SUPER fucking gay i'd spoiler this shit but its a shit game so who gives a fuck


6aad0b  No.16208948

>>16208536

fuck you.


d36464  No.16208959

>>16208942

Your definition of "degenerate" somehow doesn't include being straight up gay since you're ok with "wholesome traps".

>if you let the trap rail you, you are SUPER fucking gay

What's the other option? Fucking the trap in the ass and being a straight up sodomite? And this somehow isn't degenerate when it was the whole reason Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed?


7869ce  No.16209041

>>16208842

>The Red Line would eventually re-populate and war breaks out again.

Not if their resources runs out in this post-apoc setting and other faction gets tired of their shit or mutants keeps zerging till everybody is eaten.

All of this would make sense if Exodus didnt happen and your LL choices carried over.

At the end everybody are still stuck in the metro surrounded by packs of mutants and a unbreathable surface. Exodus didnt even give a pay off for pulling a Messiah of Metro in LL, as the Dark Ones are just forgotten like Artyom's son.

Good thing Exodus have a surrender mechanic and a less perfectionist karm system.


1550e4  No.16209045

>>16208941

You're nowhere near Christianity. You would allow jews to live because they "surrendered" or "converted."


760e1b  No.16209055

File: 60c8ec52d04dcb5⋯.png (256.89 KB, 720x406, 360:203, Waterpolo a shit.png)

>>16208754

People have been saying that for a while and I still have no idea what it means. Is it some new way of referring to cuckchan or something? Please abstain of bully


2c789d  No.16209058

>>16209055

yes. there was a thread awhile back where it was discussed what term cuckchan should be referred to as. i voted for 4gaf but alas


d36464  No.16209060

>>16209058

What's the motivation behind changing cuckchan to something else?


5e676f  No.16209066

>>16208959

>thinking i am trusting the judgement of a god that is completely fine with dykes and also genocided fucking EVERTHING except a guy in a really big boat not to mention supposedly FREED THE KIKES FROM EGYPT

Some Romans might have been gay as hell but to be honest their gods make some fucking sense. Pagan gods are great, too.

Wholesome traps or tomboys don't prevent the existence of whites. Degeneracy does. That's all I'm sayin'

hand-hold as you like but if you do it with a communist you are absolutely more degenerate, really.

>>16209045

This. Christians need to man the fuck up again. You can't 1488 if you're ultra-pacifist to the point of being destroyed yourself.

>>16209055

i was wondering too a lot, but it struck me when i thought it "out loud"

hint: consider the whole thing where they supposedly will (or already?) have to LOG IN to a fucking imageboard to post

at least i think that's it?


2c789d  No.16209071

>>16209060

just to make it even more confusing when they come here, and more easily out them when they ask "what does 4um mean" like you just did you have to go back


d36464  No.16209078

>>16209066

>completely fine with dykes

Where did this come from?

>FREED THE KIKES FROM EGYPT

Jews from back then are very different from Jews nowadays. They're not the same race.

>Wholesome traps don't prevent the existence of whites.

What? You can't reproduce with another man. How are you not preventing the existence of white offspring by living with a man?


d36464  No.16209082

>>16209071

Then why did you answer the question in the first place? You invited faggots in. You should delete the post.


2c789d  No.16209097

>>16209082

this is all merely a part of the grand keikaku


5e676f  No.16209100

File: 722d073c4169995⋯.gif (1.2 MB, 640x360, 16:9, ex_dee-1.gif)

File: 0ace6dfd5d40171⋯.jpg (140.71 KB, 725x566, 725:566, mjbyxc.jpg)

>>16209078

>JEWS ARENT THE ETERNAL JEW

I HAVE NO WORDS


d36464  No.16209111

>>16209100

>Jesus

>New Testament

Exactly.

You didn't address my third point.


0f10ab  No.16209115

File: 9b1c523262ecda5⋯.gif (1020.85 KB, 500x457, 500:457, crazy acerola laugh.gif)

>this thread

4/lgbt/ or nazifurs, take your guess


5e676f  No.16209125

File: 9dac5147040179f⋯.jpg (84.63 KB, 354x350, 177:175, 1550544690511.jpg)

>>16209115

HOW ABOUT /israel/ ACCORDING TO >>16209111 TOP KEK


d36464  No.16209190

>>16209125

Are you so insistent on wanting to fuck a man in the ass you're not willing to justify so and still claim to not be the degenerate one?


7ebe87  No.16210325

>>16208717

>"Force answers force." you want to break the cycle? Your going to have to be better then fucking commies.

Exactly, you have to wipe them out to the last man.


f08778  No.16210345

File: 22a856b54924d7b⋯.jpg (173.62 KB, 716x1714, 358:857, pence_uncomfortable.jpg)

>>16209066

>Wholesome traps


c9f0ec  No.16210654

>>16208717

>"Force answers force." you want to break the cycle? Your going to have to be better then fucking commies.

If you kill your enemies, they win.

t. Trudeau

>They were trying to communicate with you

Their attempts at communication always led to human deaths, and usually to whole stations getting wiped out by mutants. Again, Artyom did what he thought was right with the information he had. The humans didn't nuke the Dark Ones out of malice or bigotry, but because they genuinely believed they were an existential threat to the last vestiges of humanity.

>Kinslayers go to trial and are made examples of or exiled to live in fear, not slain in cold blood

For most of human history, and before the age of cucked leftism, the penalty for treason was always death, because our ancestors understood that there is nothing worse than a traitor. Cicero said it best: "He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."

He's no brother to Artyom or the other Spartans, he's just a rat.

>The guy honestly believes he's doing what's right and your literally shown it's torturing him from inside out.

Yeah, he's clearly a dindunuffin commie that doesn't understand that unleashing weaponized Ebola on everyone that isn't a commie in the Metro is somehow morally wrong. That you not only think he should be excused because for doing so to innocent people he knew full well were innocent, but that Artyom is a monster for rewarding him and his commie fuckbuddies in kind speaks volumes about your mental state.

>the same level of thinking that caused World War III cannot solve the problems of the metro

Except that the only way to stop those raping bandits, slavers, save people and the whole Metro is to gun a shitload of people down. The game is so badly written it undermines the dumb moral it's trying to teach audiences.

Also, it's not the same level of thinking. It's you trying to stop a bunch of crazy Marxist fucks from doing what they always do when given the chance - kill gentiles.

Seriously, go back to /leftypol/ and stay there. The only good commie is a dead one.


c9f0ec  No.16210668

>>16208842

>You can spare your enemies to show the Dark One that there is another way, that we aren't doomed to cycles, that you are better.

>there is another way

>let traitors and mass murderers walk away scot-free because fuck laws and common sense

All you're teaching is that humans are complete fucking retards and cucks that deserve to be wiped out.

And as others have said, Exodus basically takes a big, fat shit on LL. Killing or not killing the Dark Ones does fuckall, since the world is healing itself anyway and humans can once again live on the surface. In fact, nuking them was the smart thing to do because it eliminated a sapient species that was going to come in conflict with humanity sooner or later.

>Only weak-willed faggots kill

The reason you can vomit your soy around is that there are men willing to do the dirty killing for you. There's nothing more disgusting than leftist hypocrites that demonize soldiers for doing their jobs while reaping all the benefits of their sacrifice.


14309f  No.16210789

>>16208941

The commandment is "thou shall not murder" because god demands death penalty for sake of justice and his own, you fucktarded christcuck


2670e7  No.16212552

File: f6bf58efbf4c7fe⋯.jpg (236.61 KB, 862x1300, 431:650, 23c-The-Screwtype-Letters-….jpg)

>>16210789

>The commandment is "thou shall not murder" because god demands death penalty for sake of justice and his own, you fucktarded christcuck

Tell that to >>16208908

>>16210668

>In fact, nuking them was the smart thing to do because it eliminated a sapient species that was going to come in conflict with humanity sooner or later.

This is reductive degeneracy. The Dark Ones were an unknown element that became known to Artyom who had everything in his hands. He made a decision at the end of the first game I respect, but I believe made the more moral and correct decision in LL as the young Dark one proved to be a good ally and friend.

>The reason you can vomit your soy around is that there are men willing to do the dirty killing for you. There's nothing more disgusting than leftist hypocrites that demonize soldiers for doing their jobs while reaping all the benefits of their sacrifice.

I develop technology that enables the military so death is minimized and evil lives in fear. What exactly have you done to make you so righteous?


392e88  No.16213419

>>16201924

>>16208563

That could potentially be intentional. Has someone who has actually read the books and really enjoyed them the metro and the world takes some drastic changes along the trilogy.

Basically as the story goes on essentially humanity begins to reclaim the world and the threat of mutants and supernatural elements start to die out. In fact the last book is mostly just human interaction.

But of course they games barely follow the books at all and it is possible they just couldn't figure out how to introduce that atmosphere in open world land.




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