f0728a No.16193342
>Yeah bro I'm going to buy this 3D arena brawler that's as boring as it can get, that's 1 camera angle change away from being a fucking basic bitch bare bones powerstone.
I don't fucking get weebs man, do they not get the idea that their series wont die if they don't buy these piles of copy paste designed kusoge?
Like none of these games are anything above a regular movie tie in game, hell there's even examples of those striving much higher then these do, but niggas still buy, defend positively rate this garbage allowing only more sewage to be produced.
Besides some chink chong anime character being on the box and saying "Sugoi kawaii desu ne onii chan" in game, what is actually making them feel compelled to buy this shit on mass.
Fucking trash kusoge general I guess
617a7a No.16193346
DBZ is not animeshit.
Don't lump it in with the moeblob weeaboo category.
3fc451 No.16193350
>>16193346
this, OP needs his daily dose
f0728a No.16193357
>>16193346
>Jump force and J-stars are DBZ games.
If you want that brand weighted down so badly sure, jokes aside yes like 95% of DBZ games is still Kusoge.
f4022b No.16193358
>>16193342
>niggas
>Yeah bro
>basic bitch
>man
Look, writing like this isn't good for anyone. You either sound like a nigger or you're a nigger, in which case you shouldn't announce it like that.
a434a4 No.16193385
>>16193342
What the heck was wrong with my Hero one's Justice? Played it for a little less than an hour when it came out. it seems fine to me. Would have probably played through the campaign by now if I'd had more time this month.
7a8cdf No.16193424
>>16193342
"Nigga"
"On mass"
4954c3 No.16193426
Go back to fucking twitter, nigger.
000000 No.16193433
>>16193342
Impotent goon thread.
83e222 No.16193520
>>16193433
Fuck off ED anon. It's the only reason why you love using that word. Also lol tor, ran out of VPNs?
e68b26 No.16193530
>>16193346
>DBZ is not animeshit.
Das rite.
My basic rule is: If none of the characters has a nose (or they have, but it's just a dot), they look way younger than the age they're supposed to represent and the show has abundance of pastel colors, avoid it. It's addressed at girls/soyboys.
6fbd94 No.16193581
>>16193434
It's offensive for people to say "Stop being a nigger" because it's genetic, so go back to the hood, you fucking nigger.
902953 No.16193601
>>16193342
>it's all shounen shit
All those series are the anime equivalent of AAA garbage.
83035d No.16193722
>>16193342
>weebs
>buying shounen trash
Normalfags are the ones who buy that.
c59aab No.16193784
>>16193385
One's Justice is just generic garbage though. Not as a trainwreck as Jump Force but the bar isnt high.
25dd25 No.16193801
>>16193346
>moeblob weeaboo category
So, you don't know what any of those words mean, do you?
883264 No.16193820
>>16193346
>DBZ is not animeshit
You are right, it's shounenshit. And it's even worse than moeshit because it appeals to filthy normalfaggots like you that have 0 self awareness and only know how to spout buzzwords without even knowing what they mean.
5a898d No.16193832
>>16193342
>why do anime niggas… buy these piles of copy paste designed kusoge
You tell me, my 100% white friend who definitely does not watch anime.
ef5f45 No.16193846
>>16193342
the only sort of faggots that buy the trash in pictures related are the "ironic weeb" cancer, along with shounenniggers.
but what the fuck do you care? you're a cancerous goon. kill yourself
c28ab5 No.16193898
>>16193342
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
4f49f5 No.16193939
2f0257 No.16193953
>>16193346
>DBZ is not animeshit
Then neither is Jojo retard.
ef5f45 No.16193961
>>16193346
<DBZ is not animeshit.
<"anything that i like within a category of things that i dont like is exempted from previously mentioned category"
thats not how it works, faggot
68537a No.16193995
I still remember faggots in 2014 trying to pretend like these games were good because they were not on PC
Good times
2a3827 No.16194020
>>16193995
>I still remember faggots in 2014 trying to pretend like these games were good because they were not on PC
By 2014 do you mean 2019? Because motherfuckers are still doing this shit as we speak.
a08bef No.16194027
>>16193342
>nigga
Whatever you say nigger. Also no different then sportsfags and others who buy the same trash every year. You would think these faggots would at least wait every few years because the games are the same, but they are more content paying $60 and boatloads of dlc every year for the same exact experience.
a434a4 No.16194032
>>16193784
It felt like one of those Naruto fighting games from the GameCube era, the ones made by the bloody Roar team (those were pretty fun, and I don't even watch Naruto). I don't think generic is really the appropriate term, more like just "mid-tier" essentially a workman's fighting game, fairly barebones except for the fighting system and characters. Very few fighting games ever get the budget of a street fighter or a tekken/Soulcalibur.
90e2a3 No.16194046
What was the appeal of Hero Academia anyway? I admit the first two chapters were intriguing and then the fucker got the bestest ever powers and a few dozen chapters later the autism hero stalker book didn't play into anything anymore and I lost interest.
All might was cool though, otherwise I didn't like anyone, least of all the autistic sperg getto kid who was also the bestest of the best because reasons and is also the gay love interest.
c59aab No.16194051
>>16194032
stop posting cringy edgy dekus
ef5f45 No.16194053
>>16194046
its shounenshit. what do you expect?
4954c3 No.16194060
>>16194046
nice side characters and interesting setting.
Deku just suffers from the classing shounen problem of being the most bland character while also being the protagonists of the story.
90e2a3 No.16194061
>>16194053
Nothing wrong with a bit of shounenshit, what I mean is why did everyone and their mothers wank off the series? Is it because somehow being better than Marvel is an achievement?
883264 No.16194063
>>16194046
>>16194061
Shounenshit is specifically designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
4954c3 No.16194065
>>16194063
Most fiction is.
c59aab No.16194066
>being such a cool and sophisticated japanimation viewer and having such refined tastes such as little girls slice of life show n2312312
Never understood this. Nothing wrong with action series.
2f0257 No.16194068
>>16194063
So was Titanic and Terminator 2 but those are still enjoyable flicks.
c59aab No.16194070
>>16194061
Its wanked off because capeshit movies and the invasion of normalfags to anime was at its peak when it came out.
883264 No.16194077
>>16194065
And most fiction is absolute trash.
2f0257 No.16194091
83035d No.16194092
>>16193953
Jojo is fujoshit
c59aab No.16194103
>>16194077
Pretty much. Only intellectual pieces such as Harry Potter, God of War 4 and the Last of Us can even satisfy my intellect.
2f0257 No.16194105
>>16194092
Jojo is somewhat fujoshit, in the first part was a FoTNS rip off, devolved into fujoshit, then evolved into Araki making a movie, then devolved into a mystery thriller that he doesn't understand how to write.
ce3222 No.16194113
>>16193342
That "trash" is legit better than most western releases. While mediocre, at least the quality tends to be consistent with slight improvements over generations.
2f0257 No.16194119
>>16194103
Hey Reddit just because someone says Tarkovsky's films are trash doesn't mean they're supporting Michael Bay. Most fiction is trash.
All manga and comics are written for financial purposes or as cartoons and thus are not taken seriously by either audience or author.
All animation is still made for the purpose of statement or entertainment losing any form of subtly or artistic expression in it.
Paintings are dead. That's all I need to say because you know it's true.
Music and film are both corpses being raped by jews.
No one writes books anymore except for land whale tumblrites. No one reads them except for denialists.
Source: I've been to the deepest archives of art in the world, trust me only 1% of all art is qualified to be called art. The other 99% is qualified to be called trash.
c244e6 No.16194121
>>16193342
People like crossovers. What is so hard to understand?
ef5f45 No.16194123
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16194066
<little girls slice of life show n2312312
As opposed to Blockbuster/Capeshit-faggot attractor number 84762x10^69, much like My Hero Academia which anons have been discussing in here?
>>16194061
>>16194070 explains it pretty well
c59aab No.16194124
>>16194119
>getting this spaghetti over irony
2f0257 No.16194127
>>16194124
>He doesn't know I understood his implications and called him out on his hypocrisy.
f2846c No.16194135
>>16193342
You know those games aren't really meant for adults. Or maybe purely for nostalgia. Cashing out on licenses is as old as video games, how are those games any different ? Yeah, there is no reason to play this other than the novelty of playing as your favorite shonen character. So what ?
>>16193350
Merci docteur.
c59aab No.16194136
>>16194127
>called out your irony
Are you playing dumb?
>>16194123
Generic capreshit is definitely better than spic/turk dramas but its nips and drawn or characters doing mundane shit.
1d3bfb No.16194140
>>16193346
But DBZ is trash. A big pile of trash.
>>16193784
>generic
I hate this word, because it never tells you what a person wants or was expecting.
What do you expect fro ma fighting game other than dude punching shit out of each other in an arena?
c31c7e No.16194141
>>16193342
>anime nigga
THQ immigrants get the fuck out
2f0257 No.16194143
>>16194135
>You know those games aren't really meant for adults.
So which one's are? Fucking kek don't act like you're any better.
>>16194136
Are you?
What I got from your post
>I agree fellow pseudo intellectual, I too am a connoisseur of reddit tier games like TLoU or Goy of War 4. I am implying that there is good fiction out there and you are a pseudo intellectual
Me:
>No Anon most fiction is bad, he's right.
c31c7e No.16194146
>>16194119
>doesn't mean they're supporting Michael Bay
But Bay's bombastic style is known worldwide as typical American action movies. Everyone loves the naivete and irony of big dumb explosion.
Stop being a jew, pretending you're better and more higher than you are.
c59aab No.16194153
>>16194143
Then I'm mistaken on what you meant.
And no, saying most stuff is bad is completely failing to consider their intent and its context. If every time something better came out does that mean that everything else become inherently worse? We can't even define bad beside intent (as in did it achieve what it was aiming to do) and arbitrary(-lity?).
f2846c No.16194155
>>16194143
I didn't mean "not for adults" in a derogatory way. It's strange that you would think that. Isn't it obvious the target audience of shonen stuff is children and young teenagers ? A kid into japshit will definitly find the idea of a fighting game that pits together several shonen manga characters cool as fuck.
And are you implying video games marketed for adults don't exist ?
c59aab No.16194159
>>16194140
Generic as in done many times over to the point of repetitiveness.
c28ab5 No.16194160
>>16194140
>What do you expect fro ma fighting game other than dude punching shit out of each other in an arena?
Girls in skimpy outfirts punching the shit out of each other in an arena.
bb6773 No.16194163
>>16194119
I agree with you that most media is trash but saying the reason for that is because
>All manga and comics are written for financial purposes or as cartoons and thus are not taken seriously by either audience or author.
Is retarded as as art as a pursuit has always been done with the intent for profit. Hell, the Mona Lisa was a commissioned portrait of a nobleman's wife. You can attempt to make money and write a good story/piece of art at the same time you ponce. This doesn't mean there isn't souless pieces of media designed to milk cash out of faggots, but you can tell something that is well-made AND supposed to make money (i.e. Walt Disney Snow White) from something that is just a soulless cashgrab (knockoff animation pieces that are poorly made).
Unless you're that one faggot who goes full "Artists should never ever be paid for their work because that cheapens it. Artists can only make shit when they're suffering so we must make them suffer."
2f0257 No.16194171
>>16194146
Bay is a decent cinematographer but he's a capitalist who relies on pandering to the lowest common denominator the chinese for money
>Stop being a jew, pretending you're better and more higher than you are.
>Being a Jew is when you act as if there exists a hierarchy and you are above the rest instead of equal
Hi /leftypol/. How's that revolution going.
Unfortunately for you Jews act entitled from birth, I've read multiple art history books, lectures, films, paintings. I've earned my knowledge and am confident in my beliefs. Try countering them instead of using ad hominem sometimes.
>>16194155
>A kid into japshit will find the idea of a fighting game about shonenshit fun
You do realize these days even boomers watch anime right? Shonen shit is pandering to normalfags not to just kids, why do you think so many grown indian men love Dragon Ball and Baki?
>And are you implying video games marketed for adults don't exist ?
You can pretend they are. TLoU is clearly directed at Tumblrtards, Goyim of War is clearly directed to teenage boys.
539a46 No.16194178
>>16193342
>People need to stop enjoying stuff.
Only dumb niggers play these games but your either a faggot that cries about people liking shit you hate or a WB shill scared shitless that Jump Force will take away nigger dollars from Moronic Wokeness 11.
Spoiler It already has
These games serve a purpose they keep niggers out of other games.
2f0257 No.16194181
>>16194153
>If every time something better came out does that mean that everything else become inherently worse?
Not entirely but don't you find media trends annoying? Do you just want all crime drama films to be Cohen brothers and Tarantino copies?
>>16194163
>Is retarded as as art as a pursuit has always been done with the intent for profit.
Yeah lolicon bait show #300 or gyaru shit manga #3000 definitely show signs of artistic integrity.
c28ab5 No.16194191
>>16194181
>Yeah lolicon bait show #300 or gyaru shit manga #3000 definitely show signs of artistic integrity.
Nice goalpost moving faggot. Obviously there's still tons of trash. You said there was nothing but trash except for very old shit.
bb6773 No.16194192
>>16194181
>Yeah lolicon bait show #300 or gyaru shit manga #3000 definitely show signs of artistic integrity.
<I'll just ignore the part of his post where he explains the difference between soulless cashgrabs and attempts to make good things that make money, that'll show him
e5b64a No.16194213
>>16194192
>>16194191
>buh but not all anime is fap bait!
Alright I'm going to assume by artistic integrity you're going to cite
A. Belladonna of Sadness for meaning and emotion.
B. Steel Ball Run for authenticity and story.
C. Suehiro Maruo for aesthetics.
Or things of similar caliber.
Now I will cite Synedoche Jew York and Only Yaweh Forgives as two very poorly written films that however, meet the basis for artistic integrity.
Go watch them to see what differentiates anime from film as having artistic integrity because even low tier art is better than high tier entertainment.
5a898d No.16194215
>>16194171
>I've read multiple art history books, lectures, films, paintings. I've earned my knowledge and am confident in my beliefs.
How's the view from 5 miles up your own ass, anon?
e5b64a No.16194217
>>16194215
Beautiful and stable Anon, how's the view down there in the sewer?
bb6773 No.16194222
>>16194213
>films can be art but animation can't be
My sides
4954c3 No.16194223
>>16194213
>generalizing entire mediums
You expect me to take you seriously?
e5b64a No.16194225
>>16194222
Not my point. Actually there is a single piece of western animation I'd cite as being art but I won't name it.
We're talking about the majority of the manga and comics industry here anyways.
Also greentexting isn't an argument. Start anytime.
e5b64a No.16194229
>>16194223
>generalizing
Whoa there no, Nigger Panther is in no way art but films have more artistic integrity if we were to calculate how many films or animations are art.
I never said all films are art all animation isn't stop Flanderizing my arguments.
bb6773 No.16194238
>>16194229
>>16194225
Fine, I'll bite, what does an anime or manga need to contain for you to consider it to have "artistic integrity".
c31c7e No.16194241
>>16194171
>Unfortunately for you Jews act entitled from birth, I've read multiple art history books, lectures, films, paintings. I've earned my knowledge and am confident in my beliefs.
This poster is a jew. See how he feigns to criticize kikes, but can't help but gloating. And then:
>Try countering them instead of using ad hominem sometimes.
Then he actually blames you for noticing his bad habit.
Don't rabbinize, schlomo: everyone knows that jews claiming authority are bluffing, because they woudn't be doing so in the first place if they had any. Authority is instantly recognized in the worthy, it doesn't require begging and gloating.
e5b64a No.16194247
>>16194238
Understanding of medium in relation to message that film music and paintings developed over time, and that manga and comics mostly lack aside from a few questionable techniques scattered from the 1800's to modern day that no scholar could be bothered to give as much attention to as paintings. When it meets this standard it will be viewed with the same normality and high society view most art is.
539a46 No.16194252
>>16194213
>The stealth Hollywood shill lets his mask slip.
There we go. Its a faggot secretly furious Disney is thinking about shutting down Marvel's comic division and DC is trimming its books while One Piece sells hundreds of millions of copies. This fag can not contain his rage. Good shit you stay angry.
e5b64a No.16194254
>>16194241
>everyone knows that jews claiming authority are bluffing, because they woudn't be doing so in the first place if they had any. Authority is instantly recognized in the worthy, it doesn't require begging and gloating.
Is that why Hitler had to fight his way into power? Or Caesar? Or why Von Bismarck was in constant conflict with all other officials?
5a898d No.16194256
>>16194213
<even low tier art is better than high tier entertainment
>>16194225
>>16194229
>"art" is only that which I deem to have sufficiently complex themes
Ah, you're one of these fags. Feel free to spend the rest of your life in stuffy no-fun-allowed High Art Land, but real understanding is enjoying both "art" (as you define it) and simple pleasures. The best chefs can appreciate both three-star cuisine and a simple burger.
e5b64a No.16194257
>>16194252
>Its a faggot secretly furious Disney is thinking about shutting down Marvel's comic division and DC is trimming its books while One Piece sells hundreds of millions of copies. This fag can not contain his rage. Good shit you stay angry.
>in my other statements I said manga and comics
>openly state capeshit films are not art
>ur just an asshurt Marvel fan!
Start arguing anytime
e5b64a No.16194262
>>16194256
>but real understanding is enjoying both "art" (as you define it) and simple pleasures.
At least you're not one of those fags who claims that art is anything with labor put into it. I'll give you that.
>The best chefs can appreciate both three-star cuisine and a simple burger.
Because cooking is different from manufactured art.
c31c7e No.16194266
>>16194213
This is a college student with a liberal background. No one else would bring up those shit movies from the late 2000s, to explain cinema. It will take him 10 more years of buttfucking, before he realizes that cinema is just as dirty entertainment as comics and videogames.
One day you will look back and realize you've been fed a very deliberate dietary regime of brainwashing, by people who consider your brain like clay to shape.
c31c7e No.16194269
>>16194254
>went for more boasting
>never denied being a kike
We got the jew.
a18601 No.16194274
>this whole fucking thread
539a46 No.16194275
>>16194257
Its is though. Its a stealth capeshit fan pissed the Jump books do well so came here to attack the games. They see a film based on anime get loved by fans (Alita) and capeshit like Captain Marvel get laughed at before its out and they start attacking anything slightly anime.
You might think is is a tad paranoid but I shit you not its happening all over the internet.
e5b64a No.16194278
>>16194266
>This is a college student with a liberal background.
I never even applied to a college.
>No one else would bring up those shit movies from the late 2000s, to explain cinema.
You can when it explains it to retards.
>It will take him 10 more years of buttfucking, before he realizes that cinema is just as dirty entertainment as comics and videogames.
Holy shit you fucking idiot I know my Id changed but reading the whole thread before hopping into an argument would help:
>>16194119
>Music and film are both corpses being raped by jews.
a18601 No.16194279
>>16194275
>They see a film based on anime get loved by fans (Alita)
c31c7e No.16194280
>>16194256
e5b64a is a jew. Don't argue semantics, he just pilpuls.
539a46 No.16194282
>>16194279
Your just proving my point. Carry on.
a18601 No.16194286
>>16194282
>>16194283
People liked alita? Who and where?
754935 No.16194291
>People here haven't watched Vifam
e5b64a No.16194294
>>16194275
First off
>he doesn't crop his captcha caps.
Lol.
>Its is though. Its a stealth capeshit fan pissed the Jump books do well so came here to attack the games.
I'm not OP, those games seem ok to me.
>They see a film based on anime get loved by fans (Alita)
>Alita
>loved by fans
>live action shit
>good
>and capeshit like Captain Marvel get laughed at before its out and they start attacking anything slightly anime.
Good like I said capeshit sucks.
>You might think is is a tad paranoid but I shit you not its happening all over the internet.
It's not you just can't catch on to ID's or posting style.
c31c7e No.16194295
>>16194286
I guess Resetera must have liked it lel.
539a46 No.16194296
>>16194286
They hate it because the android girl is not fat or black.
c59aab No.16194298
>>16194294
> those games seem ok to me.
Gonna have to call you out on that one.
6cecb1 No.16194301
>>16194283
animefags will eat shit as long as it has an anime name, the only time it did not hold true was for the dragon ball movie and that was because DB was normalfag cartoons at that point.
e5b64a No.16194304
>>16194298
If you expected something with a better narrative you should have checked if the original author was in charge or not.
Other than that the gameplay looks okay.
ef5f45 No.16194312
>>16194136
<generic capreshit is better
Elaborate.
<spic/turk dramas
what chain of thoughts led you to this comparison?
>>16194301
your :tenbux: is showing, goon
a434a4 No.16194314
>>16194051
>Complains about edgy character artwork, after posting himiko in the same thread.
Top lel.
e5b64a No.16194325
>>16194314
>that artwork
>edgy
Is it though?
d1efba No.16194336
>>16193342
You don't understand. The fun isn't in the gameplay, the fun is in watching the characters do cool stuff
e5b64a No.16194340
>>16194327
My boy don't let me spoonfeed you but you can start with Bazin for the basics on film, Vasari for paintings and go from there.
c59aab No.16194341
>>16194314
Not only is what I posted not edgy nore does the character qualify as edgy but ITS NOT LITERALLY FUCKING FANFIC SHIT.
>>16194325
Frog belongs in the oven.
90e2a3 No.16194343
>>16194336
So why not just watch the animes?
e5b64a No.16194346
>>16194343
>Toga poster has worst taste in girls
Every time.
>>16194341
Because the manga is better.
a434a4 No.16194347
>>16194325
>Is it though?
Personally I don't think I was posting anything too edgy. Just some random villain deku's that I found online. But for somebody to complain about edgy characters after posting himiko makes no sense, as the entire point of her character is to be the cutest little edgelord ever conceived.
ef5f45 No.16194348
>>16194171
<I've read multiple art history books, lectures, films, paintings. I've earned my knowledge and am confident in my beliefs.
such as?
e5b64a No.16194349
>>16194340
>>16194348
Don't delete your post all you did was not give me a (You.)
c28ab5 No.16194353
I blame THQN and Mark for this thread.
90e2a3 No.16194354
Speaking of anime games, is Blood Will Tell any good?
>>16194346
Then why not read the mangas?
0413a4 No.16194355
>>16194301
The same holds true for video gamers, I've heard people defend the Street Fighter and even the Mario Bros movie even though those are unquestionable dreck that can only be enjoyed ironically.
c59aab No.16194358
>>16194346
>liking the ugly as sin lawfag
Neck yourself my man.
90e2a3 No.16194362
>>16194355
SF at the very least has Raul Julia hamming it up so I can see the appeal of that movie for some, but SMB I have no idea.
e5b64a No.16194363
>>16194354
Good point.
>>16194355
How dare you, the Super Mario Bros film tried it's hardest to make a commercial blockbuster movie using a game with no lore to make it on. That should be admired. Even if it did fail horribly.
a434a4 No.16194368
>>16194341
>Little schoolgirl with fangs and snake eyes runs around killing people and constantly talking about blood and stabbing while carrying around knives and a backpack designed to store large quantities of blood.
>That's not designed to be edgy.
You need to stop being delusional my friend.
ef5f45 No.16194387
>16194349
here (((you))) go, have another one
>bazin
>art, and anything related, in france, let alone anywhere else
>after r mutt and the postmodernist posse pisses on everything
lmao
>>16194341
atleast stuff and glaze the frog before roasting her in the oven
c59aab No.16194392
>>16194368
Bet you think Ryuko is edgy is fucking retard.
82cd57 No.16194411
>>16193773
> Mecha board please
>>>/m/
YOU FUCK
we're lonely
617a7a No.16194413
>>16194140
The only people who don't like DBZ are soy boys and degenerate feminists.
b0c3c6 No.16194420
>>16193346
By that measure none of what OP posted is moeblob weeaboo shit. I don't know what his problem is.
e92b66 No.16194421
>eyes of heaven
>Having the same issues as most jumpforce fighters
C'mon dude if you're gonna bitch about the Jojo games, bitch about something that matters, like yoshikage kira being broken because the dev has a stiffy for hand man
4954c3 No.16194425
>>16194413
DBZ is power level wankery that became completely unwatchable the moment gohan SSJ2d because a robot he knew literally nothing about other than that he tried to kill his father, died.
e92b66 No.16194430
>>16194046
It's essentially filling a niche in america when it comes to superhero stuff
Because marvel and DC are dumb. It's not exceptionally good, but it has it's moments and it's got pretty ok characters.
08178b No.16194433
>>16193342
>calling others weebs while saying kusoge instead of just calling them shit
ef5f45 No.16194440
>>16194413
<stop disliking what I like, or else youre x
on the contrary, i have yet to encounter a white man who has liked dbz and not branched out any further than that.
<maybe if i redtext it itll seem more menacing
try harder. maybe post a greek/roman bust and/or arno breker statue along with your post? just a suggestion
>>16194262
<Because cooking is different from manufactured art.
is your miscgenated jewish autistic brain unable to understand what an analogy is?
617a7a No.16194450
>>16194425
>He doesn't understand the deep background behind Gohan's transformation into SSJ2
Gohan has been groomed to be the "chosen one" since the 1st episode of DBZ.
He was going to be the main character in the Buu saga even, until the Guhhku fanboys threw a hissy fit and wanted their orange retard back.
b0c3c6 No.16194452
>>16194440
>who has liked dbz and not branched out any further than that.
That doesnt mean you stop liking DBZ.
ef5f45 No.16194454
>>16194450
>anything in dbz
>deep
u srs m8
a434a4 No.16194456
>>16194392
>Has to bring up a completely irrelevant character from a totally different show in a vain attempt to defend poor logic.
Dude all of the villains in my hero Academia are complete edgelords. not telling you she can't be your waifu or anything but you have to admit, she's designed to be edgy. just like everybody else from the "league of villains".
e92b66 No.16194457
>>16194450
I always thought it was weird that people thought goku was gonna be the main boy of DBZ, it was pretty transparent the series was, at least supposed to, be about goku passing the torch on to gohan
e5b64a No.16194460
>>16194440
>is your miscgenated jewish autistic brain unable to understand what an analogy is?
Does your lower than 75 iq nigger brain even under stand what false equivalency is? Cooking is inherently appreciative as humans need to eat and most things will taste good to us which is why I prefer to eat meat without spices than gourmet fish eggs.
Also I'm not a Jew otherwise why would I say
>Music and film are both corpses being raped by jews
In
>>16194119
Retard.
b0c3c6 No.16194469
>>16194456
What the fuck is that?
617a7a No.16194471
>>16194457
Goku's character arc was finished on Namek when he became a Super Saiyan and defeated Frieza.
After that, Goku is one dimensional and stops being interesting.
Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo and Krillin keep having character development but Goku remains as bland as a rock throughout the rest of the series.
If Toriyama didn't cave-in to retarded Goku fans, we'd have:
>From Dragon Ball all the way to Frieza
Goku main character
>Frieza all the way to Buu saga
Gohan main character
bb6773 No.16194476
>>16194247
Then you just want meta-faggotry wanking over the "techniques" that developed over time? You could go over screen-tone, panel layout, line work, for purely visual side, for the writing it's developed at the same speed as traditional writing in general media with tropes being established. Meta-wankery over techniques is a piss poor measure of anything of value.
c59aab No.16194477
>>16194456
Toga doesnt act edgy at all. Its literally just a fucking fetish and besides that shes mostly normal. She isnt brooding nor ebin chuuni. Besides the fact that she kills people over a fetish there isn;t anything edgy about her.
a434a4 No.16194481
>>16194046
It's the same reason Watchmen was interesting, because it's a different take on superheroes outside of the major Marvel and DC dynamic ( although DC is trying to screw that up by folding Watchmen back into the main DC continuity). The World building was interesting and the character designs are generally Pleasant to look at. A good portion of the main cast are borderline the moe.
b0c3c6 No.16194483
And stop saying "niggas"
Use the hard R or get the fuck out because this is NOT a board for niggers to leave their monkey shitposts.
617a7a No.16194487
>>16194483
lmao dis nigga mad af
little d*ck whyte boi
bb6773 No.16194492
>>16194477
>Toga doesn't act edgy
She's yandere tier "if you love someone you should love them so much you want to be them" is something she literally said. She's also very obviously a sadist.
ef5f45 No.16194494
>>16194460
<which is why I prefer to eat meat without spices
thats not a lot of effort youre putting into cooking. or is mommys cooking really that bland?
<Also I'm not a jew
call a jew a jew and he recoils in shock and horror
<Retard
sure showed him, chaim
e5b64a No.16194504
>>16194476
>Then you just want meta-faggotry wanking over the "techniques" that developed over time?
No tard. Techniques help the story.
>for the writing it's developed at the same speed as traditional writing in general media with tropes being established.
Yes but the way a film is made for the story is different from the way a game or novel is.
>Meta-wankery over techniques is a piss poor measure of anything of value.
Then literally why even look at art or even read novels dipshit let's just regress to full on oral storytelling myths like our ancestors did.
>>16194481
>Watchmen was interesting, because it's a different take on superheroes
Alan Moore himself admitted Watchmen was a mistake that set comics back 100 years.
3db792 No.16194506
>>16194483
>being this triggered by niggerposting
>>16194487
>niggerposting
Your mothers a crackwhore with a faggot for a fucker that birthed your bastard ass. Learn to speak english you nigger without muscle.
5fd097 No.16194509
>>16193342
>Anime niggas
>>niggas
>weebs
>"Sugoi kawaii desu ne onii chan"
>>while also using phrases like "kusoge"
I hate refugees that don't even bother trying to act like they can't count their days here on one hand.
b0c3c6 No.16194510
>>16194506
You're just pissing everybody off, huh?
e5b64a No.16194512
>>16194494
>thats not a lot of effort youre putting into cooking. or is mommys cooking really that bland?
Perfect insult but as long as we're bringing up mothers it's clear yours had a genetic defect because you clearly do too.
Perhaps Tay Sachs disease?
>call a jew a jew and he recoils in shock and horror
And I never recoiled. You still have no argument beyond insults like the kike you are.
3db792 No.16194515
>>16194504
>set comics back 100 years
So, it was a good thing then. As 100 years ago literature wasn't as the resident nigger types out words. It was more refined and focusing on the meaning of the words then the emotion it conveyed or kikery. Which is to say it was less womenlike and more masculine.
5fd097 No.16194517
Watch, he'll come with a "Thanks for all the upvotes(You)s" next.
c59aab No.16194519
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>>16194492
But shes just a fucking fetishist, she does not act too different from a normal girl besides her autism outbursts and isnt all about feeling bad or muh society.
e5b64a No.16194520
>>16194510
The thread died a long time ago I'm just waiting for lol fags to start spamming porn.
Too bad I won't be around to see it since I gotta go out soon.
e68b26 No.16194524
This is now a Dragon Ball thread.
Let's everyone list the reasons why DB > DBZ
c28ab5 No.16194525
>>16194368
>>That's not designed to be edgy.
No, it's designed to be hot.
e92b66 No.16194529
>>16194471
Really, the Buu arc could have been a movie, it's kind of an abbreviation of the series up to date.
e5b64a No.16194530
>>16194519
Right on que.
Thank you Mark.
a434a4 No.16194531
>>16194477
>Knife-wielding murderous psychopath with a sexual fetish for blood. Especially if it comes from the shows protagonists.
> totally normal behaviour.
> not edgy at all
Honestly my sides are in orbit at this point. Good job anon
3f5c35 No.16194533
>>16193346
Hahahaha are you joking? DB is trash after Cell and Mediocre after Piccolo Jr.
c59aab No.16194536
>>16194531
Did you even read my posts?
e5b64a No.16194540
>>16194515
>So, it was a good thing then. As 100 years ago literature wasn't as the resident nigger types out words. It was more refined and focusing on the meaning of the words then the emotion it conveyed or kikery. Which is to say it was less womenlike and more masculine.
Then I meant to say it sent it 100 years forward since Moore himself said that after that all capeshit comics copied it and helped keep bad industry practices alive even though he wanted it to help evolve the medium. In a way Moore opened the doors for Tumblr fags to invade through Cal arts.
c28ab5 No.16194543
>>16194504
>Alan Moore himself admitted Watchmen was a mistake that set comics back 100 years.
People who did decent work in the past can still become total faggots.
1411c1 No.16194545
>>16194519
>It's not edgy if it's a fetish
>Edginess can only come from "bad or muh society"
You're a dumbass nigger
e5b64a No.16194546
>>16194532
Nothing. I said all this thread was missing to become a qualified LOL thread was porn which you posted.
3f5c35 No.16194547
>>16194524
DB is miles better simply because Z is just a Japanese superman knockoff with retarded power levels and huge plot holes.
Actual Martial arts fights >>>>> Screaming and light shows
b0c3c6 No.16194549
>>16194543
Alan Moore is the proto fag when it comes to camics.
a434a4 No.16194552
>>16194536
I sure did, maybe the problem is you and I have a different definition of "edgy".
b0c3c6 No.16194554
>>16194547
>originally sent to destroy the planet's inhabitants
<but it's totally like Stupidman
3db792 No.16194561
>>16194540
> In a way Moore opened the doors for Tumblr fags to invade through Cal arts.
Ah, now that is bad. Also is OP bitching about weebs specifically or about how almost all quality in entertainment/games/movies/anime has tanked very fast very recently in years?
c59aab No.16194566
>>16194545
>>16194552
I get it now. What you define as "edgy" is the superficial concept of the character instead of the actual character's character.
Now pic related is actually edgy.
e92b66 No.16194567
>>16194547
>I only watch dubs
People like you are why super went overboard with the corny factor
3f5c35 No.16194568
>>16194554
Dragon Ball was originally based on A Journey to the West, a story about a stone skinned monkey man that fell from the stars journeying across the world and meeting the gods. Z is just Superman with power levels, Vegeta is Zodd and Freeza is Darkseid. I enjoyed the references to the red Ribbon Army and the Androids but everything else just sucked, especially the fucking stupid power levels. Roshi could destroy the moon halfway through fucking early Dragon Ball, now these clowns that are 10,000 times stronger than him come along like fucking fighting even means anything anymore?
e5b64a No.16194570
>>16194561
Op was a (2) and done so I assume anime only.
3f5c35 No.16194573
>>16194567
I've read the manga and watched the subs, try again.
3db792 No.16194589
>>16194573
So what martial arts does dragon ball exhibit? Why does this make it better then stupidman throwing efficient punches?
e5b64a No.16194599
>>16194589
>then stupidman throwing efficient punches?
Brute force can overwhelm fighting style.
ea72c1 No.16194601
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>>16193342
>Why do anime niggas keep buying this fucking trash?
for the same reason anyone would want to play vid related
it's dumb, low budget, generic and has been done better before a millon times, but it's still fun to watch your favourite characters beat the hell out of each other
these types of game are the type of game i play with friends when we want some casual fun to laugh at
there's also little kids who like the shows but don't know better about being weary of vidya based on IPs from other mediums or soccer moms who buy them just becos they recognize the name as something their kids enjoy
5fd097 No.16194603
>>16194570
>(2) and done
You mean "(2) and through"
e5b64a No.16194609
>>16194603
(3) and forget me?
(4) and nothing more?
7d5e4d No.16194613
>>16194046
It's bread and butter shounen cliche shit. The pull is that in this lull of actually good cape books and stories, MHA fills the gap for a large disenfranchised collective of capeshit fans, on top of being the usual yaoi trap with its cavlecade of gay-baiting, and then enough tits to keep the other slice occupied with their odd fetish cycle (wanting to fuck a frog, slimegirl nuru nuru, sticking your dick in invisible, etc), while pretending the story is DEEP so that the actual kids to pick it up off the shelves in Japan continue to do so.
None of the above realize the the story began, climaxed, and ended in the pilot chapters and the remainder is just one long bout of senseless filler.
3db792 No.16194617
>>16194607
Well its slightly better then just throwing random punches, excluding whatever the explanation is for the tail on that kid, what even is it they are practicing martial arts wise? Why don't things like batman do stuff like this for combat?
c28ab5 No.16194619
>>16194609
>(26) and hit the bricks
ea72c1 No.16194620
>>16194607
>mfw this was the best coreography in the Dragon Ball history and there has never been as interesting a fight in any of the many sagas ever since
3f5c35 No.16194623
>>16194617
>Why don't things like batman do stuff like this for combat?
Because capeshit sucks.
a434a4 No.16194625
>>16194566
Eh, for me the edginess comes out from the character's design as well as the characters Behavior, and motivations.
5fd097 No.16194626
>>16194620
The majority of fights are just sad now. Punch spam before they break off to fire beams at each other or teleport around.
3db792 No.16194631
>>16194626
So literally what batman does.
>>16194620
Someone should make a show with all the fights more interesting like that.
bb6773 No.16194632
>>16194504
>Then literally why even look at art or even read novels dipshit let's just regress to full on oral storytelling myths like our ancestors did.
Because if I use the most sophisticated and mind blowing techniques to draw a pile of dog shit I'm still painting a pile of dog shit. Techniques are ''important' and from historical perspective help the medium development, but that development at the end of the day only serves the base goal of the movement: the finished product. People wank Citizen Kane like their life depends on it because yes, it revolutionized cinema, but it was also a good fucking movie at the end of the day. You can not only measure the worth of something on solely on whether or not it developed new techniques or polished old ones.
But if that's your standard go read Oyasumi Punpun then.
>>16194607
It's been so long, did Goku ever develop special fighting techniques in OG Dragon Ball that relied on his tail? I love the idea of martial art styles developed for characters with unusual anatomy because it's a fighting style on they can do.
a434a4 No.16194639
>>16194631
Isn't the whole point of Batman, besides being a costume vigilante he's also the world's greatest detective?
d436cf No.16194641
I liked J-Stars Victory Vs+
3f5c35 No.16194643
>>16194617
>>16194623
Ironically Batman is trained is dozens of different martial arts styles in canon but he never uses them at all.
3db792 No.16194645
>>16194639
I think so, none of his detectiving will ever compare to professor layton though.
5fd097 No.16194646
>>16194631
>So literally what batman does.
Who cares about batman? I'm talking about dragonball.
b0c3c6 No.16194648
>>16194641
I liked All Star Battle.
e8fef5 No.16194649
>>16194046
A good shounen anime works by making the first arc of a story really, really good and to pull you into to the story and characters. And then after that, it usually goes to complete shit.
People love a story about a poor kid who lacks something that everyone else has, and then they work their way up into becoming the hero. The same thing happened with Naruto
>oh no Naruto that poor guy he has an evil fox inside of him and everyone hates him
>look at how bad he has it!
>lol he wants to be the leader of the village and hero someday
<15 years later
>omg Naruto is the hero and leader of the village!
MHA is the same thing
>oh no Deku that poor guy he has no quirk while nearly everyone else does
>look how bad he has it!
>lol he wants to be the best hero some day
<15 years later
>omg Deku is the #1 hero and everyone loves him!
A lot of shounen anime follows this formula. A lot of people eat it up. You are bored of it (and you should be after you watch a few of these play out). It's shounen, it's designed for kids to give them a bit of hope and optimism about what they can accomplish in the future based Japan for making kid's shows that have good morals. They aren't designed for people to be watching them more than 10 years in their lives. They are designed to have a good one or two shows each generation that helps Japanese kids feel good about the future no matter how bad they think they have it.
The problem is you have adults from the West who never got those morals from Western media growing up, so they see these optimistic stories and they grab onto them. Then, you have people too dumb to understand what Shounen anime is, and they look for deeper meaning (socjus crowd). Then you have people that are just too dump and never grow up past shounen anime and are perfectly content with watching some kid the world shit on since birth become the #1.
Shounen is very popular with new Western anime fans because they grew up consuming media that revolved around
>here is the most bad ass person ever
>look at this clear evil the main hero must stop
>wow he stopped the evil hurray no one saw that coming!
And shounen is a huge departure from traditional Western stories. I haven't looked into it, but I would be a lot of MHA fans are ones that haven't been watching anime for very long, a bunch of shitty casuals. Not all of them, mind you, some people like watching shounen trope storylines. But I bet the vast majority of them are, just like how Nardo brought in so many westerners to anime.
4954c3 No.16194650
>>16194639
Batman hasnt done any detective work in decades, nowadays he just puts shit into his supercomputer and it tells him anything he needs to know, or some other character dumps exposition on him.
7267a3 No.16194654
>>16194632
There's a few points he uses his tail to his advantage as a surprise attack or to slip to the side in CQC or to fly back to the ring like Tails but the majority of the time he makes no use of it which is a shame.
b0c3c6 No.16194655
>>16194649
Then what the hell is JoJo?
644a2c No.16194656
>>16193995
I mean they have a better combat system than mount & blade.
4954c3 No.16194665
>>16194655
JoJo isn't really comparable to other shounen or anything, really. Its why people like it so much.
90e2a3 No.16194666
>>16194656
For future use.
28be6b No.16194670
>>16194632
>Because if I use the most sophisticated and mind blowing techniques to draw a pile of dog shit I'm still painting a pile of dog shit.
But that pile of dog shit helps the story if it doesn't then it's just poor writing. This is like saying LToV is is unjustified because mud pies.
>Techniques are ''important' and from historical perspective help the medium development, but that development at the end of the day only serves the base goal of the movement: the finished product. People wank Citizen Kane like their life depends on it because yes, it revolutionized cinema, but it was also a good fucking movie at the end of the day.
Yes and revolutionary things are always considered good. They correlate with each other.
>You can not only measure the worth of something on solely on whether or not it developed new techniques or polished old ones.
If story telling is inherent then how can you not?
>But if that's your standard go read Oyasumi Punpun then.
I tried.
Didn't catch my eye. But I'll try again skimming quickly through it.
c59aab No.16194676
>>16194655
Pushed by meme culture.
The fact that its so overly flamboyant draws in people that really like "so silly XD" aspect of anime.
e8fef5 No.16194680
>>16194655
Not all shounen anime is like that, but that storyline is a very popular and very proven formula for making a popular shounen anime.
It's not like every shounen follows the same format. But the format I suggested is popular and it's an easy way to make a successful show.
JoJo is a different case, but it's more Western in the fact that you have a hero (in this case a line of heroes over several generations) who are generally fighting one evil (or a line of evil from the same family). JoJo is popular just because it's so weird and it's borderline like watching a really cheesy stupid movie but it's still satisfying.
7d5e4d No.16194684
>>16194471
>Goku
>Dimensional
Nigga he stopped growing as Dragonball Z began. The only characters that legitimately had ANY kind of change were Piccolo and Vegeta. Everyone else retained the static characterization they had in Dragonball (Goku included), or were born and stayed the same character with no real changes.
But let's go with your shit logic. If Goku's "arc" ended on Namek, then Gohan's ended with Ricoome—the only fight he legit took seriously, went all-out for, and did so after a long streak of being too afraid to fight the bullies at his front door. After that, it was just a repeat of that for the subsequent seasons.
And mind you, I'm going with the textbook definition of character development, or what is known as a dynamic character: a character in a work of fiction that, because of the plot or antagonistic force of the story, has a noticeable change in mindset or attitude by the conclusion of the story.
Goha's still the same stiffshit geek he is after Namek, only with a nonsensical reset in order to justify his SSJ2 moment.
b0c3c6 No.16194687
>>16194676
That is the dumbest thing I read today.
c59aab No.16194692
>>16194687
My post or the pic?
bb6773 No.16194696
>>16194649
>confusing battle Shounen tropes with Shounen in general
I will admit that this
>People love a story about a poor kid who lacks something that everyone else has, and then they work their way up into becoming the hero.
Is an accurate portrayal of almost everything in Shounen Jump (except One Piece which avoids this by making the main characters goal at least tangentially related to every pirate's goal in existence.) but the entirety of Shounen isn't solely battle Shounen. For instance Dr Stone very rarely has a direct fight scene
>>16194655
Nowadays it's considered Seinen, not Shounen. But the original story arc is normal boy becomes trained in magic martial arts to beat bad guy vampire.
>>16194670
>But that pile of dog shit helps the story if it doesn't then it's just poor writing.
I'm not talking about a movie, I'm talking about a painting. A painting that is a very well-drawn piece of dog shit, it's still a painting of dog shit. The end result matters.
>Yes and revolutionary things are always considered good. They correlate with each other.
Not always, The Thing is considered to be one of the finest pieces of Horror films but it was hated at the time of it's release and was a giant failure. Not all things that are "revolutionary" were considered "good" at the time they were released. They are looked fondly in hindsight but fondly in hindsight is a completely useless measure for evaluating things happening right now. Not every revolution is noticed or cared about at the time of it revolutionizing. And to go further, yes, most revolutionary things are good but not all good things are revolutionary. You are mistaking correlation with causation.
c28ab5 No.16194703
a434a4 No.16194710
>>16194655
I enjoyed the fighting game on the Dreamcast but I've never had the urge to explore Jojo past reading some background info on Wikipedia. I've seen all the various memes and I have a friend or two that follow plot, but JoJo has ever clicked for me so I I'm neutral towards it. I don't dislike it but I don't have any real interest in it either.
28be6b No.16194711
>>16194696
>I'm not talking about a movie, I'm talking about a painting. A painting that is a very well-drawn piece of dog shit, it's still a painting of dog shit. The end result matters
People could consider the same of rape, sex, or gore.
>Not always, The Thing is considered to be one of the finest pieces of Horror films but it was hated at the time of it's release and was a giant failure. Not all things that are "revolutionary" were considered "good" at the time they were released. They are looked fondly in hindsight but fondly in hindsight is a completely useless measure for evaluating things happening right now. Not every revolution is noticed or cared about at the time of it revolutionizing. And to go further, yes, most revolutionary things are good but not all good things are revolutionary. You are mistaking correlation with causation.
Yes all people have critics when they start out but you haven't proven my principle wrong.
bb6773 No.16194718
>>>16194711
>Yes all people have critics when they start out but you haven't proven my principle wrong.
Then if we go by your standard Dragon Ball Z is the finest piece of anime to come out as it's lead to the medium wanking it's use of powerlevels and transformations in almost every work since. There. Dragon Ball Z is a piece of fine art because everyone else is clamoring to copy the thing it revolutionized.
28be6b No.16194730
>>16194718
No, my argument is on technique.
Besides The Bible did power scaling first.
bb6773 No.16194736
>>16194730
Are you saying that powerlevels and transformations aren't narrative techniques for conveying a character's change of power and inner world changing?
b0c3c6 No.16194742
Unrelated but I was just thinking;
Josuke would have been able to save Bruno. That's why he wasn't in part 5.
c59aab No.16194743
>>16194730
>not hellenic myth
295d5d No.16194745
>>16194711
>>16194730
I bet you wank in front of the mirror
3f5c35 No.16194746
>>16194713
the only way to properly watch z is with the horrible dub voice acting and faulconer's music
bb6773 No.16194747
>>16194743
>not the Epic of Gilgamesh
e92b66 No.16194749
>>16194736
The whole concept of a "powerlevel" is fucked regardless, because it's essentially a rank that denotes both power and technique capability.
a434a4 No.16194753
>>16194718
Meh, everybody's been copying magical girl stuff since the first ones showed up in the 70s and 80s. The thing about Dragon Ball Z though is that it's very specific with its tropes and the only stuff that's come close to emulating it would have been Naruto and bleach… I think ( I might be forgetting some other magical martial arts series that got popular)
bb6773 No.16194754
>>16194749
Oh it's retarded alright but it "revolutionized the medium's techniques and storytelling" so it's by default gold by jew-anon's standards.
35f8a1 No.16194759
>>16193342
Because you won't quit sucking cock. Quit bouncing balls off your chin and weeb trash games will go away.
b0c3c6 No.16194761
>>16194746
They should have put out the uncut rips of the ocean dubs.
bb6773 No.16194762
>>16194753
One Piece has transformation's for Luffy now. Fairy Tail. Hunter X Hunter. Toriko. MHA is inching towards this with MC now having multiple quicks which even his master didn't get to use, along with character's who actually transform when they activate their quirks. Seven Deadly Sins literally has scouters.
e92b66 No.16194776
>>16194754
I mean it's debatable because when you have essentially a "rating for the capacity of power" in a show with techniques you have to realize things like.
Goku can TECHNICALLY use any move he's ever seen
If a character with a higher powerlevel witness a character with a lower powerlevel using a technique instantly that character can use that, so things like, instant transmission broly.
Hell aside from strictly anatomical abilities like absorption, stretchy arms (though it's debatable considering tien can do shit like the multi arm technique).
It's so broken as a concept you'd have to acknowledge a reality where Goku could, fathomnably by dragon ball's own ruleset could conjure up unlimited arms to fire energy and/or punch people with. He just doesn't.
c59aab No.16194780
>>16194762
At what point does a trope just become a thing that is just there?
4954c3 No.16194790
>>16194780
If you want to go down that rabbit hole, those are just called omnipresent tropes.
ca521b No.16194794
>>16194749
Yeah…. because it's suppose to show that the enemy up to this point in the story is stronger than the protagonist. DBZ fucked that up when you already had Vegeta able to destroy planets already once he met Kakarot but their are different ways to show powerlevel without giving out a number or specifying what that number entails. One Piece does this a lot but did it differently at certain parts. During Skypiea, it was % of those who survived their encounter with the boss minions. During Enies Lobby, was the clear display of power levels but the numbers have a little more meaning to them. 1 on their power level that could actually reach into the 1,000+ was equal to 10 average soldiers. They also say it isn't accurate because of how they strike that fat zipper mouthed guy so it's still a guess. During Whole Cake Island, they said Katakuri has never been defeated or has never fallen on his back once before.
Rarely does any form of medium with a conflict is a battle of people on equal footing. Especially when it has multiple arcs. There might be power advantage, a skill disadvantage or experience discrepancy to increase the level of threat or drama for the next major antagonist. This is nothing new in storytelling. DBZ just displayed it in actual numbers.
bb6773 No.16194796
>>16194776
The main problem with the idea is that Toriyama introduced it as something that was a bad idea to rely on because earthlings could "hide it" and thus the bad guys would constantly underestimate them. But then retards took it seriously and said "if X character has higher powerlevel then he must win in fight against Y UNLESS Y increases his powerlevel too!" which has lead to the modern state of "transforming just in the nick of time!" that plagues current Shounen.
>>16194780
Theoretically never, but what actually happens is that is becomes so commonplace that the lack of it is either scene as something that proves a work is bad, or that it's "deconstructive of the medium as a whole".
Oh revolutionary anon, I found another anime that's fine art now. Evangelion has been getting wanked for decades for it's story and it's "deconstruction" of the mecha genre.
24774a No.16194803
>>16194654
The original Dragonball was so much better than than any of the other series.
644a2c No.16194808
>>16194796
eva's not a deconstruction that's just what retarded western fans say
bb6773 No.16194810
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>>16194794
One Piece uses Bounties as power levels anon, this has been apparent since the first time Luffy got one.
>>16194796
Ah and another one, the "Itano missile circus" revolutionized how mecha anime depicts warfare between mechas.
4954c3 No.16194817
>>16194808
How does eva not shit all over super robot exactly?
644a2c No.16194822
>>16194817
how does it? it's just about relationships and also an independent organization that uses giant robots/precursors to humans to fight other precursors to humanity and their subsequent invasion by their fellow man by a secret organization that was using them for their desires to surpass their current form.
c59aab No.16194826
>>16194799
this anon right here is the only one in this thread that deserves to live
bb6773 No.16194842
>>16194711
>People could consider the same of rape, sex, or gore.
Nice dodge, surely no one noticed that you conveniently side stepped addressing the argument.
644a2c No.16194844
musclegirls are literally soft homosexuality.
c59aab No.16194849
>>16194844
neck yourself you fucking homo
somebody post the tomboy cap
e68b26 No.16194851
>>16194547
>mfw this was the best coreography in the Dragon Ball history
Nah
82ccbc No.16194858
>>16194855
So is she a bunny or...?
0a1ef4 No.16194863
>>16194046
It's fun. I agree it largely scraps any really interesting hooks early on. But it does go to show that originality is not as important as execution by doing what it does do really well.
9a33fd No.16194864
i dont know man why do i keep buying waifu games even though their gameplay is usually noticably inferior?
i guess they just like the atmosphere
4954c3 No.16194865
>>16194822
This is such a surface level summary of eva Im skeptical you ever watched it at all.
0a1ef4 No.16194867
>>16194547
Gotta ask, do people think Super is worse than GT now?
c59aab No.16194869
644a2c No.16194870
>>16194865
Sorry when did it shit all over the genre it's part of?
bb6773 No.16194872
>>16194867
I think it's agreed the transformations are hot trash but Super is more of a return to OG Dragon Ball with the humor while GT is the obvious extension of the tone Z was building up as the series went on. Overall most people agree that Super is "better" than GT but they're both pretty bad.
4954c3 No.16194886
>>16194870
Do I really have to point the ridiculous contrast between Eva and the super idealist super robot genre with characters able to surpass insurmountable odds through sheer willpower, and that no matter what the good guys win in the end? How even the very concept of super robots being legendary beings able to do absolutely anything if the situation demands for it and are basically walking monuments of all that is good is reduced to what the "mechas" are in Eva.
The list of Evas subversion of the genre is literally too long for me to type out in an entire fucking thread.
07486b No.16194892
>>16193346
I fucking hate casuals so goddamn much. Why the fuck are you here?
24774a No.16194898
>>16194844
Only if you're a literal faggot yourself, anon.
c59aab No.16194899
God I wish the bunny had more than 7 panels.
90e2a3 No.16194900
24774a No.16194903
>>16194872
Super is slightly better than GT. But it's still worse than DBZ, which is worse than DB.
4cb152 No.16194909
>>16193342
>basic bitch
check em
644a2c No.16194912
>>16194886
How is the super robot genre idealist when almost all of it is about how horrible everything is? Go on, point out how a monster of the week show mixed with a character study is this deconstruction.
ccdd44 No.16194944
>>16194892
>if you don't watch moeshit you are a casual
i want to fucking die, there's literally no place for me i don't want to talk with normalfags but everyone in all imageboards hate battle shounen please send me a gun god almighty, why did you give me bad taste?
24774a No.16194951
>>16194944
Be thankful for all the dubs god gave you in your post and id.
3f5c35 No.16194952
>>16194851
>best
not even close
vegeta's stretchy arm is laughable
even GT looks better than most of boo
4954c3 No.16194953
>>16194912
Are you pretending to be retarded? Do you not know anything about the history of Super robot?
Its idealistic because its all about fixing the horrible everything no matter what.
Compare it with Eva where everything only ever gets worse and Shinji cannot stop fucking up no matter what he does and does not.
Seeing as how you stopped reading my post like ten words in, I will repeat how Shinji all the other characters are the complete antithesis of super robot characters who never give up, and never back down.
>Go on, point out how a monster of the week show mixed with a character study is this deconstruction.
Its not about what eva does, Its about HOW it does it. It being a monster of the week is irrelevant because it subverts the genre in literally all the other areas, character motivations and convictions, subversion of expectations of the audience familiar with the genre, again, the list is too fucking long.
bb6773 No.16194955
>>16194944
>everyone on imageboards hates battle shounen
Are you fucking retarded? Anon's will thrash you if you try to pretend battle shounen's are anything but what they are on the tin, but as long as you're not pretentious (i.e. "Oh my god capeshit is so garbage now let me go wank to men screaming for hours") you'll find plenty of people who do.
b635d9 No.16194960
>>16193342
because there's literally nothing else to get.
4954c3 No.16194962
>>16194912
I forgot to point out in my post how reductionist your summaries of Eva are. Again, have you watched it?
Are we talking about the same show here?
THE Neon Genesis Evangelion?
bfa369 No.16195090
>>16194960
You have that image updated for inflation?
07cbee No.16195188
>>16195090
I saw it a long time ago and it came out to about $35, it's probably around $40 now.
fbdec0 No.16195240
> niggas
First of, the proper term is NIGGER, third it's because they're FUCKING NIGGERS
>>16193346
I want cuckchan to leave
fbdec0 No.16195249
>>16193434
>trying this hard to fit in
>trying to callout someone shitting on a nigger for acting like a nigger
644a2c No.16195324
>>16194962
No we're talking about the rebuilds. Feel free to come back with an argument.
>>16194953
>Do you not know anything about the history of Super robot
do you?
>Compare it with Eva where everything only ever gets worse and Shinji cannot stop fucking up no matter what he does and does not.
Shinji has a catastrophic beginning with the Eva, gets better, has a few bumps in the road, works together with others, gets better, becomes the prodigal child undermining Asuka, and has internal conflicts towards the end which mirror the outside conflicts in the show. It's almost like the show is a character study or something. It's not a deconstruction, that's just stupid.
b0c3c6 No.16195338
>>16193601
People like you are ruining imageboards just keep your dumb mouth shut.
c9e9ef No.16195369
Un-salvageable again, sorry, lads. Mark smells.
c318a3 No.16195376
>>16193342
smash tier autism but with animus, isn't it obvious?
39dd9f No.16195396
>>16193601
>it's all shounen shit
>All those series are the anime equivalent of AAA garbage.
Slow down, pal. Let's be precise and truthful: all those series are babby tier. DBZ isn't bad at all, it's just for kids to learn the ropes.
Are baby wheels bad? No, they just have to be discarded later. Insisting that none uses them is actually edgelord material, both missing the point, and looking childish for misunderstanding that they're just means to an end.
9ade3d No.16195401
>niggas
stopped reading. Don't buy a game, buy a gun and shoot yourself.
a18601 No.16195418
>>16194655
Jojo has been seinen since at least SBR.
d33297 No.16195439
>>16193342
>no Ichigo on the cover
My. How the mighty have fallen.
Once regarded as an extremely popular anime, things have been going downhill ever since its manga got shitcanned hard.
a18601 No.16195457
>>16195439
Has anyone given a shit about bleach since 2012?
0a1521 No.16195512
>>16194533
>DB is trash after Cell
The Android/Cell arc was one of the worst in DBZ, though. It had a few cool concepts and choice moments, but most of the story after 17 gets absorbed is only possible because everyone shut off their brains and went full retard to make it happen
>Goku letting Ugly Cell beat the shit out of his friends when he could've just teleported in and fucked back off at any point in time, and in fact did so after realizing that he could just teleport in and fuck back off
>Krillin destroying the remote instead of destroying 18, but that's okay because he did it in the pursuit of pussy
>Vegeta letting Cell reach maximum power, when an arc prior he was shitting his pants at the prospect of Frieza doing the same
>Bulma taking out 16's bomb without informing him of her actions. It makes sense for her to remove it but given that he was an ally at that point she probably should've informed him.
>Goku giving Cell a Senzu bean because "muh fair fight" and "muh son's potential"
>Cell going big muscle mode when it was repeatedly emphasized throughout the arc, by himself included, that big muscle mode was basically worthless since it was too slow
>Gohan letting Cell live for no apparent reason, which resulted in Goku getting killed
644a2c No.16195519
>>16195457
Only the Dark Souls of Bleach games.
05089c No.16195522
>>16194413
The only people who like DBZ are niggers who use excessive yelling and redtext.
3f5c35 No.16195554
>>16195512
The android arc is great without the atrocious japanese voice acting and music, I don't mind the sub and the music btw but they don't fit androids at all. Buu is easily the worst arc.
3f5c35 No.16195565
d33297 No.16195566
>>16195457
Some did. But unlike how Naruto's story ended on a high note, the Bleach manga was wrapped up in the most rushed and half-assed way possible. An ending so disappointing, it pissed off every Bleach fan remaining.
Ichigo used to be featured on the cover of these Jump crossover games alongside Luffy, Goku, and Naruto. But now that Bleach got shitcanned and lost all its popularity, Ichigo has lost that privilege to stand beside them.
98719e No.16195614
>>16195578
>>16195565
I don't know, "bweeeh" sounds pretty identical in both versions.
d677d8 No.16195691
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>>16195522
DBZ is racist now, but the saiyans are the struggling black man while freezer is a white slave owner.
58edc2 No.16195723
>>16195691
>screeching monkeys throwing violent temper tantrums
>niggers
Pick both.
a501d1 No.16195734
>>16195691
we wuz niggers are the greatest cancer of our time.
3f5c35 No.16195876
>>16195614
nah
english cell isn't aged japanese man with a very limited vocabulary and makes more sounds in one fight scene than jap cell does during the entire arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4kijx8sAz0
f0728a No.16197563
>>16193385
It's literally the same garbage as the rest with nothing too it, bonus points to the trash meter by giving multiple characters infinite combos by just ending them preemptively and starting again like Stain.
>>16193995
I remember all the retards defending the shit port even though it had multiple causes of memory leakage.
f0728a No.16197565
>>16194046
There's a frog girl with big hips and a yandere loli, anyone giving you other reasons is a massive lying faggot trying to sell you shit on pretending it has deeper meaning.
f0728a No.16197583
>>16194533
>>16194547
Dragon Ball Super is a special level of shit with fans on a special level of needs.
The amount of times I've seen people say it's bad to be bombarded by fucking Brazilians going on about muh ZUH MAH SUU or low key trash the previous series to somehow make super look better is phenomenal.
It's like they don''t realise they're eating trash literally made because they knew that they would eat it.
312ab2 No.16197588
>this nigger-tier thread is still up
Dubs.
f0728a No.16197598
>>16195240
At last I truly see anon, we should cut dem programs to stop anime games from being made.
350591 No.16197600
3f6b85 No.16197605
>>16197588
>>16197600
dubble chegged :DDDDD
486cda No.16197624
ef5f45 No.16197734
>>16197588
as has been proven in the thread, and as you know, shounen is for niggers
b0c3c6 No.16198368
>>16197734
Where was it proven? Why cant you moecucks fuck off and leave everyone else alone? You are the fucking problem. You dont even like anime, you just wont stop until you shame everyone into watching shit you dont even like. Shows where the main appeal is female characters IS SHIT. fuck off. You're trying to make MLP tier faggotry the "norm" because you hate anime to begin with. You're the fucking shitposting ironic bullshit that RUINED imageboards. You are the ruination of this whole thing.
b0c3c6 No.16198370
What is wrong with you fucking people. Why wont you shut up. If it's not moeshit you attack it endlessly. Fucking why?!
883264 No.16198494
>>16198368
>>16198370
It's not about defending moeshit you absolute fucking sperg.
Shounenshit is the most overrated fucking genre despite it's glaring and common flaws, like shallow plots, copious amounts of filler and cardboard cutout characters. It's popular among normalfaggots because it intentionally appeals to the lowest common denominator.
Shounen is for niggers and retards, get over it.
11ed11 No.16198738
I'm honestly interested in Shinobi Striker for myself because squad based goal oriented ninja battles was what the series needed. My brother likes the look of jump force and the character customization is cool but stages could've used vertical layers.
11ed11 No.16198744
>>16198494
>It's not about defending shonen you absolute fucking sperg.
>moeshit is the most overrated fucking genre despite it's glaring and common flaws, like shallow plots, copious amounts of filler and cardboard cutout characters. It's popular among virginfaggots because it intentionally appeals to the lowest common denominator.
moeshit is for virgins and kikes who like to get saved by girls instead of dealing with a problem head on, get over it.
883264 No.16198804
>>16198744
>implying i'm defending moeshit
It's literally the first line of my post, learn to read you fucking mongoloid.
At least moeshit doesn't attract normalfaggots like you.
11ed11 No.16198974
>>16198804
obvious deflection was obvious
b0032c No.16198995
>>16194471
Personally, I would argue that if not for Toriyama caving in to fan pressure, Dragonball Z would not have gone on beyond the Frieza arc to begin with therefore, Gohan would've never been the main character.
de9017 No.16199031
>was supposed to be a sequel of J-Stars
>somehow the Roster is way worse (aside from the addition of Yugi)
>it looks worse
>it even plays worse
What happened?
757231 No.16199037
>>16198738
>Tank
>Healer
>DPS
>AN ACTUAL FUCKING NINJA
One of these is not like the others, one of these actually belongs.
579f92 No.16199066
>>16195554
>atrocious japanese music
You've an even bigger nigger than OP and the fag crying about getting bullied my moeshitters combined
f303d9 No.16199082
>>16194032
>Bloody Roar
GOD DAMNIT, GIVE IT BACK! I DON'T CARE IF FURNIGGERS LATCH ONTO THE SERIES! I JUST WANT A NEW BLOODY ROAR!
57ea44 No.16199090
>>16199082
I wonder how many people are macrofags as a direct result of Rampage. I bet it made everyone furry in a hurry nwn
b51239 No.16199170
>>16199066
And you're a sperg for getting angry because someone doesn't like that shitty circus music.
d2b75a No.16213190
>>16195691
>be a nigger
>complain there are no or not enough niggers in thing
>when there is a nigger, call his existance racist
And why do they get so pissed from caricatures?
4b184a No.16213226
>>16194286
Have you seen it? It's surprisingly not a dumpster fire. It's better than the OVA at least.
I'm not a huge fan of the original work to begin with, but I thought it was a significant cut above the usual level of live action adaptations.
108e0f No.16213256
Hey niggers, my mouse just bit the dust. Give games that can be played only with touchpad and keyboard.
d2b75a No.16213266
051c81 No.16213278
Of all the threads that get bumplocked or outright deleted for odd reasons, how was it decided THIS one was a keeper?
b45910 No.16213349
Daily reminder that there is nothing wrong with moeshit
I like Dragon Ball though by the way, was bretty good until Cell
414282 No.16219822
>>16194844
No futas are. Musclegirls are just picking good genes for your offspring.
f62154 No.16219903
>>16193346
>>16193342
>DBZ
>not moeshit
>I ONLY WATCH OLD ANIMU FOR MATURE WEEBS SUCH AS MYSELF
Holy shit leave >>>/cuckchannel/
bdc8b2 No.16219956
>>16193342
>niggas
>basic bitch
Holy shit the cuckchannel infestation is real. Dubs.
6036bb No.16224288
>>16219822
>futas
>gay
If it's got a vagina it's not gay.
a18601 No.16224293
>>16224288
>If it's got a vagina it's not gay.
cuntboys
3fc9a1 No.16224826
>>16193346
This man speaks the truth. I love DBZ but never got into the rest if the girly anime faggot shit from Japan.
DBZ can spiritually be classified as a 90s western cartoon.
ba5a3b No.16224882
>>16213349
>nothing wrong with moeshit
Sitcoms are shit and so are you.
fceaf3 No.16232468
lol my cousin is the type of person who buys this shit
he is a soulless consumerist in every regard
>he buys his girlfriends daughter pkmn cards, 5 boosters per day
>he spends 300$ per month for pay to win bullshit in video games
>he spends lots of money for restaurants and eating out
>has 2 cars when he only drives 1 of them
>watches the 10 gorrilionth iteration of dragonball when it is always the same crap anyways
>buys remakes and remasters of games he already has
>pre orders games for half a year
>buys premium editions and collectors editions
>buys the season pass crap as well
of course he is broke and will never have anything in his life
I feel sorry for him but he is not 15 years old anymore
eventually you need to learn the hard way
842407 No.16232695
>>16224882
>equating anime to shitcoms
Says the kike loving gook
a53fdb No.16232765
>>16232468
I do not understand how people can be this bad at managing money. I've heard over 80% of Americans don't even have $1000 in their bank account, that's fucking absurd to me.
ce3222 No.16233434
>>16194275
I love the Alita manga. The film was fucking garbage.
bb6773 No.16233569
>>16232695
If there's no overarching plot it's a situation comedy. If your moe started as a 4-koma, it's most likely a situation comedy as there is no plot progression.
aabc9d No.16234199
>>16233569
>muh overarching plot, your "moeshit" is shallower than my "shounenshit"
Careful there anon, your pretentious side is starting to show, or should we start throwing arguments over semantics at each other like good goy.
bf26c6 No.16234491
>>16193342
Jojo isn't animeshit you fucking mongoloid.
a3eade No.16234572
>>16234491
So what is it then?
79fe8d No.16234759
>>16234491
Stop trying to defend shit, faggot.
79fe8d No.16234775
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>>16194623
1000 times better than Shitball
593613 No.16234804
>>16234572
seinen
gratuitous torture scenes, overt racism and sexism, violent death
bb6773 No.16234843
>>16234199
Being a sitcom is inherently not a bad thing, it's just a descriptor. There's nothing wrong with situation comedies, not everything needs to be deep but you're a kikey bastard if you're arguing that it's not a situation comedy. What exactly makes moe anime different than Friends or even Family Guy with a different subject matter? At the end of the day everything resets and no progress has been made, we just watch a situation play out for the day.
a3eade No.16234893
>>16234804
Those are all shonen things.
ecac7e No.16235326
>>16195566
Mr, Double Dubs, would you be so kind as to give a TLDR on how it got shitcanned?
30bd0a No.16235513
Is that Saiki? How would he not break the game?
9fea63 No.16235552
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16235326
>tl;dw the writting was never the strong point, the art became even more bland, adn the Huenco Mundo arc was a retelling of the Soul Society arc
747c30 No.16235601
>shounenshit
>isekaishit
>haremshit
>moeshit
is there no way escaping it?
78de93 No.16235624
>>16235601
Do you mean people accusing everything on earth of being those things? If so, no.
7d64e0 No.16235675
>>16234775
That was retarded, how can you defend this shit.
7d64e0 No.16235703
>>16194113
This is pretty fun, but the damage scaling on weapons suck at the higher weapon levels.
710fd4 No.16235709
Jump Force is pretty bad.
But I sort of knew what I was getting into with it.
At least the online mode is pretty decent. When there are people on.
747c30 No.16235855
>>16194477
>Besides the fact that she kills people over a fetish there isn;t anything edgy about her.
>isn;t anything edgy about her.
>kills people over a fetish
>not
>edgy
747c30 No.16236069
>>16235552
>686 chapters
So, did the MC manage to dick ANY girl?
ef5f45 No.16236218
>>16198368
<Shows where the main appeal is female characters IS SHIT
damn sure showed me/us with that hot opinion. are you a homosexual?
<"MLP tier faggotry"
>comparing moe anime to ponyshit
they are not even remotely the same thing
<You are the ruination of this whole thing.
when will closet homosexual manimefags like you ever understand that anime has always been about cute things? its been that way since the 80s or so
>>16198974
>x y is x
go back to cuckchan you nigger
>>16234491
<Jojo isnt animeshit
"everything I like is anime, and everything i dont like isnt anime"
please just kill yourself, thanks
>>16213349
why did you post a blank image?
498d73 No.16238443
>>16193342
Because Bamco can keep on reusing assets in all their games since most of these brawlers are made by them and "anime fans" you're speaking of are just either normalfag nips or Reddit tier dweeb trash.
>>16194192
How is this manga? Part of me wants to read it but I've heard that the niggers who scanlate it are meme loving tumblrites.
>>16194299
>>16194676
Hang in there, David-kun
Easily one of the top mangas this season, I just wish someone'd pick up the raws for Tonegawa's